Ridiculous Kansas State Salary.

[An X Fan]

Check out the compensation for Kansas State's assistant coach: http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1146&CID=862660. He's the one that Huggins lured from Charlotte to get Michael Beasley to follow. To say that the compensation is "inconsistent" with other assistant's salaries is an understatement. Why it's inconsistent is obvious. Huggins is a professional scumbag of the highest proportions.

[Mark 3 Pointer]

Where there is smoke there's fire. If this guys relationship with Beasley and his ridiculous salary aren't grounds for an NCAA investigation then there is no hope for college basketball. I can't believe that the NCAA doesn't have a rule concerning the ethics of hiring coaches based on their relationships with players. I wasn't a big fan of the Book Richardson hiring becuases it's obvious that he is expected to recruit and deliver young impressionable kids that he has built relationships with. Something doesn't seem right about that. I cannot speak of the man or his resume but I trust Miller's judgment on it. But let it be known that MP3 is skeptical of these kind of dealings. If any of you know Coach Richardson on a personal level I would be interested to hear your impressions of him.

Here's the link:
http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1146&CID=862660

[DC Muskie]

I don't know why people assume others are shady until someone else puts them at ease.

In case any forgot, college athletics is big business. Xavier is in whole hog.

[XU 87]

In the Kansas State's coach's case, there is the very real appearance that KSU paid, indirectly, very big money for Beasley.

You can't say the same about Book. Book was hired because of his contacts in New York and his ability to recruit New York players. I say that's a good move. I don't see why you don't like the hire or even think that X is stepping over some ethical line.

It's not like Book declared that he would bring the top recruit n the country to the team that could pay him the highest salary, which is what happened at KSU.

[MHettel]

Here is a question.

I assume Hill was the highest paid assistant on the staff. If so, wouldn't that imply he's the top assistant? How come when Huggins left, he wasn't the assistant that got promoted to HC?

Bob Huggins is a scumbag. Plain and Simple.

[DC Muskie]

I'm sorry I really don't understand the grandstanding.

Hill has connections. It's more then just Beasley. He decided what his worth was when he took the KSU and KSU paid him for that. Did I miss the part where Hill is no longer the coach?

Assistants are expected to bring in talent. They are paid to bring in that talent. They are paid to have these connections. So KSU wants to paid one guy $400K, that's on them, not anybody else. Most coaches are the highest paid employee in the state. Even in states where education sucks, should we then decry these places?

[hipsterdoofus]

http://http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1146&CID=862660

So now we know what Huggy and KState paid for Beasley.

Miller's brother mentioned at the end of the article.

Any idea what our assistants are making?

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1146&CID=862660

[XU 87]

The Hill hiring still has the appearance of, "Whoever pays me the most gets Beasley." While hiring Hill doesn't violate any NCAA rules, it doesn't pass the smell test.

[DC Muskie]

The Hill hiring still has the appearance of, "Whoever pays me the most gets Beasley." While hiring Hill doesn't violate any NCAA rules, it doesn't pass the smell test.

It would if this was first time anyone had ever heard of this type of situation. But Hill was an employee of another DI college and got a better offer. To me, that's what anybody else would have done. The fact that it is not proportional to what others in his job at other schools is immaterial to me.

Unless you want to socialize coaches salaries. Ha! I hope you got that.

[MHettel]

I hope to God I never do business with DC muskie. We obviously don't have our ethics bar set at the same notch.

[XU 87]

It would if this was first time anyone had ever heard of this type of situation. But Hill was an employee of another DI college and got a better offer. To me, that's what anybody else would have done. The fact that it is not proportional to what others in his job at other schools is immaterial to me.

Unless you want to socialize coaches salaries. Ha! I hope you got that.

He apparently got such a high slary because he was able to deliver one kid, Beasley, to KSU. Although not against the NCAA rules, this doesn't pass the smell test. It's basicallly paying someone a bunch of money for delivering a recruit.

As for the second paragraph, your comments are duly noted.

[DC Muskie]

I hope to God I never do business with DC muskie. We obviously don't have our ethics bar set at the same notch.

Yeah, MH, you're soooooo ethically superior then me. Oh I wish I could be as ethical as you....

Someone needs to show me where Hill has had his salary reduced or he was fired. Anyone? Ethical Andy over there in Seattle, you got anything?

[XU 87]

I hope to God I never do business with DC muskie. We obviously don't have our ethics bar set at the same notch.

DC Muskie may be a left wing radical socialist who wants to take XU 87's income and give it to the DC Muskie family, but I think it's a little bit of a stretch to start questioning his ethics.

You might want to consider deleting that post, even if you're joking around.

[DC Muskie]

He apparently got such a high slary because he was able to deliver one kid, Beasley, to KSU. Although not against the NCAA rules, this doesn't pass the smell test. It's basicallly paying someone a bunch of money for delivering a recruit.

"basically" is not the same as "actually." And since he didn't break any rules, why is this such an issue? Do we know of any recruiting violations? Do we think Hill will never again land another kid during his tenure at KSU?

I just crack up when I read from fans about the ethics of other schools who actually don't break rules. No rules that we know of have been broken. Guy gets paid a lot of money to do a job. Everybody then throws there hands up and scream "Disgust!"

And we waxed this team anyway.

I'm about thisclose to going on my KSU series rant.

[DC Muskie]

DC Muskie may be a left wing radical socialist who wants to take XU 87's income and give it to the DC Muskie family, but I think it's a little bit of a stretch to start questioning his ethics.

DC Muskie needs to go on second date in order to get to DC Muskie family.

[PM Thor]

http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/Coach/PHOTO/DHILLKSU250.JPG

One of the best pictures ever used on rivals. Ever.

[MADXSTER]

Wasn't it K-State who hired a parent as an asst coach for two years. Once their son left for the NBA the parent decided to move on as well. Then K-State hired another parent of an incoming recruit to take the old coaches place. It maybe another school.

All legal in regards to the NCAA but doesn't pass the smell test.

[wkrq59]

Again, it all depends on whose oxen is being gored.
The practice of hiring coaches to bring top players to colleges has been going on for years. The NCAA makes some weak rules about it, but seldom enforces those rules. The practice of hiring high school coaches to deliver recruits is also very, very common. What the NCAA has tried to eliminate but I suspect not too hard, is the practice of the "interview fee", paid in cashe to the high school coach who then facilitates or in many cases makes it impossible to talk to the kid unless the fee is paid. A certaikn New Jersey high school coach used to charge $10,000 for an initial interview arrangement and received many such payments from an extremely well-known college coach whose team won NCAA titles. Ditto for a Chicago high school coach.
There are many differences between Book and the guy at KSU, one being there was no specific high school player invoved in Book's case.
And if you think the Hall case is outlandish, how about the relationships between AAU team sponsors and organizers and some coaches.

[Juice]

Wasn't it K-State who hired a parent as an asst coach for two years. Once their son left for the NBA the parent decided to move on as well. Then K-State hired another parent of an incoming recruit to take the old coaches place. It maybe another school.

All legal in regards to the NCAA but doesn't pass the smell test.

I have no idea about K State but I remember hearing that Calipari did that for Dejaun Wagner, but I am not positive.

[wkrq59]

It was Ed Manning, Danny Manning's dad at Kansas under Larry Brown.

[muskiefan82]

This kind of thing has been going on for a very long time...and not just at the BCS level...I remember Oral Roberts back in the MCC days and the whole Acres family saga...Nothing new here..money's just better. On a side note, I would feel a little worse if Book had brought with him a top 10 prospect when he signed..as it is, he brought his knowledge, background, experience, and connections with him to help Xavier. (Isn't that what Xavier would look for in ANY hiring situation?)