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MADXSTER
09-24-2008, 07:02 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-ncaacheating092308
Those inside the sport will tell you that cheating never has been so widespread, yet the NCAA hasn’t busted a single big-time men’s basketball program in nearly two years.
It hasn’t nailed a major football program in nearly 15 months.
It’s the longest stretch of compliance for the once iron-fisted organization in 46 years
An organization that once picked off cheats nonstop – it averaged nearly seven major convictions of big-time programs from 1986 to 2006 – now either is incapable or unwilling to police its money sports.
In basketball, where even NCAA president Myles Brand acknowledges an epidemic of cheating, there hasn’t been a major infractions decision since Oct. 12, 2006. That’s when Roy Williams’ regime got Kansas busted for improprieties.
Not since July 11, 2007, when Oklahoma got nabbed for players having no-show jobs, has there been one in major college football.
These days the NCAA doesn’t even get mad at Kentucky.
In 2006, Auburn sociology professor Jim Gundlach detailed a case of academic fraud to The New York Times. “We (had) people who couldn’t put together complete sentences going out there saying they had a sociology degree from Auburn University,” Gundlach said.
“I had this notion that the NCAA did care about athletes being students, too,” Gundlach said. “That’s a myth. They only care about money. (The enforcement process) is primarily used as PR to maintain the tax-exempt status of big-time college athletics.”
Whatever it is, the perception is the NCAA in 2008 isn’t as aggressive as the NCAA of, say, 2004, when it nailed eight major cases.
While the corruption gets bigger and bigger the number of schools in trouble gets smaller and smaller.
The golden age of college cheating, 440 days and counting.
Tardy Turtle
09-24-2008, 07:48 PM
I found them... never mind.
http://bp0.blogger.com/_IEsOe08tMo0/RZT4rk38qlI/AAAAAAAAAJw/ILQ8o-pDSo0/s400/chattering_teeth_2.jpg
American X
09-25-2008, 12:00 AM
Whatever happened to the mountain of evidence of violations involving Reggie Bush?
wkrq59
09-25-2008, 03:14 AM
These days the NCAA doesn’t even get mad at Kentucky.Madxter
You know the old joke, "The NCAA got so mad at Kentucky they slapped Cleveland State with two more years probation ."
One of the reasons the NCAA has had no major crackdowns is the college administrations have learned to do three things when they find infractions:
1)Fire or discipline the coach or assistant who caused them.
2)Institute a one-year ban on post season play for your school and throw yourself on the mercy of the NCAA.
3)Hire some damn good lawyers who used to work for the NCAA or who served as prosecutors of the NCAA cases, pay their firm a ton of money and watch the penalties flit away like butterflies after a slap on the wrists.
Friends, if there is cheating and I believe there is, it's being done in the eyes of the NCAA, but sufficient money is being made for that august body through its TV tournament contracts and using unpaid labor, obtained at prices far below market value, that nobody will rock the boat.
Even Saint Bobby Huggins got away with a ton of illegal crap because one or more coaches whose teams he played regularly wouldn't turn him in.
Today, with a Bud Selig-like ass heading the NCAA, a man who'll take the money and look the other way, why stir up waves.
For example, several instances of rape were ignored by a football coach and an administration at University of Colorado.
It was a case of "She was asking for it," so said the defendants. And the coach who left the program simply returned to his alma mater for a better job. Ho Hum.
As I have said many times, schools in the BCS conferences have more to worry about than excessive phone calls or whatever. They are too concerned with keeping the little guys from the so-called lesser conferences who have escaped the mid-major tag or those who are still stuck with the onerous label from getting any share of the post-season tournament pie if they can help it.
And the NCAA is beholding to the football and basketball programs for the money they produce.
It will be interesting to see how the historic Indiana University program is treated for lack of institutional control and being so stupid as to fire a pretty good and decent coach and hire a scumbag who was already on the hot seat for violations and then act surprised when oh, my goodness, he broke the rules.
Don't hold your breath.:D
tmac03
09-25-2008, 08:06 AM
Whatever happened to the mountain of evidence of violations involving Reggie Bush?
Patience on this one, this case will eventually go before the Committee on Infractions. It would help if Reggie would speak to the NCAA, but I guess he's too busy filming commercials and averaging 3 ypc to bother to try to clear his name.
As a comment to the whole thread, the NCAA does its best, but it doesn't try to hide the fact that it depends on self-enforcement. The NCAA enforcement staff is about 60 strong...how are they supposed to police all of collegiate sports? When the crap that q alludes to happens and the institution or other institutions don't report the violations, the person will most likely get away with it. I'm not saying that I agree with depending on such a small staff to be in charge of enforcement while depending so heavily on self-reporting, but that's the situation as it exists now. I would support expanding the enforcement staff so that the NCAA is not so reliant on self-reporting, but to be perfectly honest, schools that cheat and hide it well are not going to get caught no matter how large the enforcement staff gets.
Specific to college basketball, the NCAA isn't blind to the fact that there is rampant cheating in the sport. They formed a special group this past spring that will focus exclusively on CBK. Unfortunately, given the size of the office, there are only 3 or 4 (can't remember for sure) investigators on the task force, so again, it's like throwing a grenade at a mountain.
By the way, I'm damn glad that Xavier has a good compliance program. I know of at least one allegation (not in basketball) that was able to be refuted through the compliance group/lack of any evidence.
Muskie
09-25-2008, 10:09 AM
Patience on this one, this case will eventually go before the Committee on Infractions. It would help if Reggie would speak to the NCAA, but I guess he's too busy filming commercials and averaging 3 ypc to bother to try to clear his name.
As a comment to the whole thread, the NCAA does its best, but it doesn't try to hide the fact that it depends on self-enforcement. The NCAA enforcement staff is about 60 strong...how are they supposed to police all of collegiate sports? When the crap that q alludes to happens and the institution or other institutions don't report the violations, the person will most likely get away with it. I'm not saying that I agree with depending on such a small staff to be in charge of enforcement while depending so heavily on self-reporting, but that's the situation as it exists now. I would support expanding the enforcement staff so that the NCAA is not so reliant on self-reporting, but to be perfectly honest, schools that cheat and hide it well are not going to get caught no matter how large the enforcement staff gets.
Specific to college basketball, the NCAA isn't blind to the fact that there is rampant cheating in the sport. They formed a special group this past spring that will focus exclusively on CBK. Unfortunately, given the size of the office, there are only 3 or 4 (can't remember for sure) investigators on the task force, so again, it's like throwing a grenade at a mountain.
By the way, I'm damn glad that Xavier has a good compliance program. I know of at least one allegation (not in basketball) that was able to be refuted through the compliance group/lack of any evidence.
He's also busy with Kim Kardashian.
I would consider Alabama a big time football team and they just came off probation two years ago.
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