J.D. Weatherspoon (Verbal Other)

[Muskie]

Position: SF
High School: Southwest Atlanta Christian High School
Home Town: Atlanta, GA
Number: TBD
Height: 6'6
Weight: 200

Offers:
Akron, James Madison, Xavier

Interested Schools:
Georgetown, Miami, Ohio St., Wake Forest, West Virginia, Wisconsin

[xuphan]

Now has an offer from Xavier.

[xuphan]

Video of J.D.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn0nmwrN8d8

[xuphan]

J.D. Weatherspoon and Justin Martin visited Xavier this past weekend.

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?cid=843715

[xufan02]

Muskie, JD Weatherspoon is a Columbus, OH native and attends Northland High School. You might want to change the info under his profile. If OSU does not offer this kid I think Xavier's chances are very good. Think Bill Walker athleticsm.

[xuphan]

Spoon is visting Xavier this weekend.

[Masterofreality]

Put Spoon in the Bank!!

[hofer]

From ESPN

James Weatherspoon SF (6-6, 205)
Junior, Columbus, Ohio / Northland, committed to Xavier
This long and super athletic lefty has improved his skill set since I saw him in July. Weatherspoon is still a work in progress, but his midrange game and slashing off the dribble are much better. Weatherspoon displayed a smooth pull-up jumper going to his right. His release and follow through looked much smoother. He also attacked the lane and used a spin move to get past his defender and finished with his right hand. In transition, he catches lobs over or around defenders on a regular basis with his head at rim level. He is a tip dunk threat on the offensive glass. Weathersppon sprints the lane and plays with great effort and energy at all times. He must continue to work on his shooting and ball handling in order to be a complete small forward. On defense, he is capable of defending positions 1-4 with his length and high-major athletic ability. He also does a great job of covering ground to contest shots. This young man has big-time upside and with his rate of improvement will be a contributor right away at Xavier.

[DAllen15]

Nice get for X. An athletic SF is a valuable commodity.

[The Artist]

Great stuff, I hope his jumper continues to improve. Never underestimate the ability to knock down a simple jump shot.

[Jumpy]

Nice pick up. Sounds like the next Posey/Brown. That is unless McLean is the next Posey/Brown, but that remains to be seen. If so, then he would be the next Posey/Brown/McLean.

I digress.

Congrats Sean and staff.

[xu95]

ESPN is just announcing this? It happened six weeks ago (or at least within days of Parrom committing).

xu95

[X-man]

ESPN is just announcing this? It happened six weeks ago (or at least within days of Parrom committing).

xu95

This report is new, and based on observations from a recent tournament in Kentucky which featured a number of top players in the 2010 class. Witherspoon's assessment was a part of the report on "surprise players", and the focus was on how much Witherspoon had improved since July. I take this information as an endorsement of Miller's talent-spotting skills. The future looks very bright given who is in the pipeline, and the anticipated additions to the 2009 and 2010 classes that Sean alluded to Monday night.

[BBC 08]

Rivals has JD's commitment down as happening on 11/4/08.

[Swifty]

ESPN is just announcing this? It happened six weeks ago (or at least within days of Parrom committing).

xu95

No it was a few days after Latham commited.

[xu95]

No it was a few days after Latham commited.

Latham. THat is what I meant. Thanks for the correction.

xu95

[X Factor]

If you've got some time and want to check out JD Weatherspoon, here is a video of a game his Columbus Northland team played at the Marshall County Hoopfest last week.

When you click on the link, at the top of the screen, you will be able to scroll over until you find the game. It's Memphis White Station vs. Columbus Northland.

Also on Northland is OSU recruit and Top 5 player Jared Sullinger.

Spoon is #24. I watched pretty much the entire game and JD did not disappoint. He hit a buzzer beater to end the first half, and then absolutely dominated the 3rd quarter. He connects on a couple of athletic shots in the lane, throws down a huger alley-oop, and then follows a Sullinger miss with a monster tip dunk. The announcers, two guys with southern accents who aren't that good, talk alot about JD. Besides Sullinger, Spoon was the best player on the court, and I actually thought Spoon looked better than Sullinger at times. I think he finished the game with 21 points.

Anyway, Weatherspoon is 6'6 with really long arms, has better than average quickness, and athletic doesn't even begin to describe him. He is in another realm of athleticism than just about everyone. And by athletic I mean explosiveness. He is 6'6 and can hammer it down with authority without taking any steps in the lane (see tip dunk).

http://www.hoopfest.wazoosports.com/ondemand.html

[X Factor]

Here's some highlights from Columbus Northland's game this past weekend. They played Dayton Dunbar. They won by 10 or 12 points, but I'm not sure how many points JD scored.

He's #24 with the headband. The 37 second mark is pretty nice.

JD Weatherspoon vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBSP0G6qaQg)

[X Factor]

Here's a few dunks from JD's game tonight against Columbus Brookhaven. He led the team with 16 points. Amazing explosiveness. He will fill the highlight reel in a Xavier uniform.

Spoon dunks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84S6DR2uczY)

[CityLeagueHoopsTV]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INY_pBGNV5E


For more highlights and info please visit http://www.cityleaguehoops.tv/

[X Factor]

Thanks! Spoon does not know what gravity is. I loved the 17 foot jumper.

He could be an absolute beast when he gets to Xavier.

[American X]

Pretty cool his parents had the foresight to name him Justin Doellman Weatherspoon.

Destined to play at Xavier.

[Mark 3 Pointer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INY_pBGNV5E


For more highlights and info please visit http://www.cityleaguehoops.tv/

Watch this video. This kid is a freak of an athlete. Great get by Miller and the staff.

[More Cowbell]

you know who else was a great athlete. Keith Jackson. Will he develop from a dunker to a basketball player

[AdamtheFlyer]

Saw him tonight at Flyin to the Hoop.

He didn't have a good game, he was just kind of there. Finished an ally-opp early that was sweet, then kind of disappeared the rest of the game. Showed great overall athleticism and potential, but didn't have it tonight. The one thing I found interesting was his virtual disappearance when Sullinger was sitting out with fouls. San Diego keyed on him and he really went into a shell. He did pick it up when Sullinger came back, but never got it going on offense. Sean Miller was in attendance.

On a sidenote, Jeremy Tyler (2010 class, going to Louisville) is a monster. Great footwork and put down some monster dunks in traffic. One and done potential.

[Cincy Muskie]

Thanks for the update Adam. Now go back to Flyer land and hope Weatherspoon doesn't develop.

[xu15]

Thanks for the update Adam. Now go back to Flyer land and hope Weatherspoon doesn't develop.

Amen. With Miller at the helm, he will develop and X will have another athletic monster for the rest of the A10 and the country to fear. I love it.

[kellernr]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=3846461

Hes about half way down the page

[UnCaged]

Great press for a promising recruit. I am really excited to see some of 'spoon in person. Sounds like an amazing athlete. Thanks for the link.

[CityLeagueHoopsTV]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17itC5DG14U

[CityLeagueHoopsTV]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17itC5DG14U

Check out his incredible windmill against Brookhaven on Friday.

http://www.CityLeagueHoops.TV/

[xu15]

you know who else was a great athlete. Keith Jackson. Will he develop from a dunker to a basketball player

Dude, watch the video. Does that look like Keith Jackson to you? Ill give you that one-NO.

He's gonna be good. Miller and his staff recruit way better than X was at that point.

[muskienick]

I love the excitement generated by an uncontested slam like the one in the clip. But I'll be even more impressed when he gets to Xavier and makes blocks and other stops on defense, rips off 4-5 offensive rebounds during a tough game, and quickly learns his role in the Muskie/Miller system.

[DoubleD86]

I love the excitement generated by an uncontested slam like the one in the clip. But I'll be even more impressed when he gets to Xavier and makes blocks and other stops on defense, rips off 4-5 offensive rebounds during a tough game, and quickly learns his role in the Muskie/Miller system.

If you watch the video, the uncontested slam came because of a block...

[xu15]

That one is just a dunk clip. Watch the other video, I mean the one where he eats people alive. Yeah, I'm excited for this kid.

[stjamesxu08]

the best part of the video is that he made the block on that shot and then knew to run down the court for the outlet pass...i hope when he gets here he and jordan/cheeks/tutu can make all the same magic from that video and his other videos happen on the court at the 'tas!!!

[stjamesxu08]

you know who else was a great athlete. Keith Jackson. Will he develop from a dunker to a basketball player

this kid is already leaps and bounds ahead of keith...action jackson was more just a freak athlete than a baller...jd is the real deal!!!!

i want to see highlight reels like these of action jackson when he was in high school...i'm sure they are few and far between

no hate to keith, i loved watching him on the court my freshman year, but this jd kid is waaaaaaay more developed than keith was in his four years at x already!

[X Factor]

Here's another nasty alley-oop off an inbounds pass. I like how he dunks with authority. You just can't teach this...Sean will teach him the rest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TorprEQ8JpU

[Xman95]

Honestly, the windmill doesn't do much for me. I've seen people do that on a Wednesday night at open gym. When you're tall and can jump, you've got a shot at doing that.

But, the video with several clips definitely gets me a little more excited. I agree with X Factor, this kid dunks with authority. It's one thing to showboat when nobody's near you. It's another to drive the lane, rise above the pack and then punish the rim. JD seems comfortable playing with bodies around him. Not all players are.

To some extent, he reminds me of Chris Wright. Obviously there are differences (the major one being that JD chose to go to a proven winner!), but they both have that sick athletic ability and seem to know how to finish. And they both appear to have "quick ups" and that can definitely provide an edge to a finisher, rebounder and shot blocker.

This kid looks to have the tools to be very good.

[X Factor]

Here's another clip of JD. This is what you call explosiveness.

JD doesn't mess around (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mz5D-dmvno)

[waggy]

Here's another clip of JD. This is what you call explosiveness.

JD doesn't mess around (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mz5D-dmvno)

He's going to be a great player at X.

[X Factor]

Here are some more highlights of JD. It's from a tournament game last week. Kid is off the charts athletic!! Punishes the rim.

He CAN knock down the 17 foot jumper too, but those don't make the highlight reels. His dunks do!

Go here and watch the Northland vs. Jerome highlight vdieo. JD is #24 with the white headband.

JD dunkin' (http://columbuscityleague.com/Sports/basketball/bk0809/3109basketball.html)

[Mark 3 Pointer]

Anybody else notice how big JD's feet are in these videos... I wouldn't be surprised if he grew a couple inches in the next 18-20 months.

[xu15]

Uh, its official. Xavier will dominate for a long time to come. Damn good things are on the horizon.

[moepvc04]

Anybody else notice how big JD's feet are in these videos... I wouldn't be surprised if he grew a couple inches in the next 18-20 months.

If this were generally true I would say Dante Jackson is going to be 7'5" by the time he graduates.

[Firehose]

If this were generally true I would say Dante Jackson is going to be 7'5" by the time he graduates.

Shaq would be 10 ft even if his feet had anything to do about it, although I would absolutely love a 7'5" shooting guard... for offensive purposes only, I suppose.

[pizza delivery]

So...this thread says OFFER...I'm reading it's a COMMIT now?

[wkrq59]

Here's another nasty alley-oop off an inbounds pass. I like how he dunks with authority. You just can't teach this...Sean will teach him the rest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TorprEQ8JpU

I like the looks of this kid Witherspoon, and the fact that he is a Xavier commit makes him look even better, but I point out one thing that has been pointed out on this and other boards numerous times in regard to the struggles of Kenny frease in one respect and Tutu and Redford in others.
1)This kid is the biggest kid on the floor and his competition can't begin to come close to the level JD plays at today. Also, he has another year of school left and I won't be completely happy until I hear of his signed LOI.
On that alley oop play, that ball would be back in his face if he did that against Xavier. And the drive down the key followed by the two-handed stuff would never have happened. The ball would be stripped from him and if he did go up like that, he'd likely be rejected. As you have said, Sean will coach him to be a much better player. But the kid appears to have a basketball sense and strength you can't coach, you can only hone it.
2) Like Tutu and Brad, he'll have to adjust to the speed and reaction time of the college game. But boy does he have a lot of upside. :D

[Xman95]

So...this thread says OFFER...I'm reading it's a COMMIT now?

There's a verbal, but nothing signed (as he's still just a Junior). Assuming Sean is here next year - please don't start a will he or won't he debate now - I don't see why JD would back out of the verbal. Great program, great coach, great players to surround him, great university...what's not to like? Well, other than the fact that you have to travel to Dayton once a year.

[kyxu]

Weatherspoon is about as solid of a commitment as you can get. The kid loves Xavier and the fact that he's committed to Xavier. From what I've heard, he wears Xavier gear every chance he gets and likes to remind people he's going there.

[Xman95]

From what I've heard, he wears Xavier gear every chance he gets and likes to remind people he's going there.

As he should!

[Juice]

JD's high school team, Columbus Northland, is in the Ohio State semifinals and will be playing Warren Harding. They beat Dublin Scioto (who beat my Bombers) in the regional finals.
They play Friday at 5:15 in Columbus. If they win they will most likely play Princeton from Cincinnati who has Jordan Sibert.

I have no idea if this interests anyone but I thought I would provide an update.

[picknroll]

Leave the headband at home, please. That's the first sign of thuggishness. Tats? Okay. Bands? Nope.

[MADXSTER]

Leave the headband at home, please. That's the first sign of thuggishness. Tats? Okay. Bands? Nope.

Disagree. Reminds me of Carmelo and I've never thought of him as a thug.

[kyxu]

Leave the headband at home, please. That's the first sign of thuggishness. Tats? Okay. Bands? Nope.

What???

(extra characters)

[PMI]

Jason Kapono used to wear a headband at UCLA. I know he's not a blood, can't speak for the Crips.

[xu15]

Yeah I gotta say that's dumb.
Maybe he doesnt like sweat in his eyes while he's jumping over the backboard.
This kid could be great.

[Xman95]

However, a headband and no eyebrows (yeah, I'm looking at you, Charlie Villanueva) could mean a bit of thuggery!

[A10fan]

JD had a nice game tonight in the State Semi's. 25 pts on 11/12 shooting and 1/1 on 3's. Only made 2/7 Ft's though.

You can watch the game here:

http://www.ohiohssports.com/game/score/326395/

[X Factor]

JD had a nice game tonight in the State Semi's. 25 pts on 11/12 shooting and 1/1 on 3's. Only made 2/7 Ft's though.

You can watch the game here:

http://www.ohiohssports.com/game/score/326395/

Thanks. I just watched the game and JD looked reallly good. He is very good around the basket. He can hang and adjust in the air to get a shot off, similar to CJ. However, JD is about 100 times more explosive than CJ. I've never seen a kid dunk it so easily from right under the basket without taking any steps. JD just rises with ease and dunks it. It's unreal. I'm not joking, he has more explosion and lift from a stand still than Brown or McLean, and he's only 6'6-6'7.

He hit a three pointer and a few 10-12 foot floaters in the lane.

Oviously, like most high school kids, he will need to work on his defense. He doesn't seem to care as much about defense as he does offense at this point, but he's got all the physical gifts to be an asbolute beast on defense. Right now he can get away with playing defense using his freakish athleticism.

Overall, I am extremely pumped that JD will be wearing a Xavier uniform in 2010. He could be really special.

[BlueX]

JD's game will be on Sportstime Ohio tonight at 8:30.

[xu15]

I do nt care if its premature, now that the season is over I need to be pumped about something, and I am absolutely jacked about this kid. Also, in this class we got a commit from Jordan Latham, who is ranked like 40th overall in the country. I will not be surprised if Spoon turns out even better though. Reload and retool baby.

[X Factor]

Here are highlights of the semi-final game from yesterday. Spoon is a special athlete who has the chance to be a great player. Can't wait for Spoon to get to Xavier. Again, JD had 25 points and 8 rebounds. He's #24 with green headband.

Northland vs Warren Harding (http://columbuscityleague.com/Sports/basketball/bk0809/32709nlandfinalfour.html)

[PM Thor]

As I sit here watching this game vs Princeton, I am BLOWN AWAY with his athleticsm. JD can get up, wow. The only problem I am seeing right now is he is backing guys down offensively with the ball, I am almost totally sure he won't be doing that for X. Oh and fouls. He pretty much dominated that third quarter though.

Very excited for this kids future. Huge upside, aaasnd he dunks again.

I HATE dayton.

[Xman95]

As I sit here watching this game vs Princeton, I am BLOWN AWAY with his athleticsm. JD can get up, wow. The only problem I am seeing right now is he is backing guys down offensively with the ball, I am almost totally sure he won't be doing that for X. Oh and fouls. He pretty much dominated that third quarter though.

Very excited for this kids future. Huge upside, aaasnd he dunks again.

I HATE dayton.

NASTY throwdown with just under 3:00 to play in the 4th Q.

[AdamtheFlyer]

That was a great basketball game. It's amazing to think that as many as 7 big time D-1 players were on the floor today. Weatherspoon reminds me of Chris Wright to a point. He's not as physically dominant as Wright, but his abiltiy to own the air is very similar. His game really needs a lot of work, but the sky is the limit. The good thing for him is having Sullinger to draw all the attention in high school games. Too many kids get swarmed in HS play, and can really only develop over the summer. JD will get the space necessary to develop all year around.

I'll never understand why people don't watch high school hoops. Both the D-1 and D-II finals were great games. Lebron was dancing in the stands of the SVSM/Thurgood Marshall game. Got a text from a coach I know saying Lebron was even "oooing and ahhing" at Juwan Staten. The passion and intensity I saw in these games was as good or better than anything in the NCAA tourney. Just a joy to watch.

[xavierj]

That was a great basketball game. It's amazing to think that as many as 7 big time D-1 players were on the floor today. Weatherspoon reminds me of Chris Wright to a point. He's not as physically dominant as Wright, but his abiltiy to own the air is very similar. His game really needs a lot of work, but the sky is the limit. The good thing for him is having Sullinger to draw all the attention in high school games. Too many kids get swarmed in HS play, and can really only develop over the summer. JD will get the space necessary to develop all year around.

I'll never understand why people don't watch high school hoops. Both the D-1 and D-II finals were great games. Lebron was dancing in the stands of the SVSM/Thurgood Marshall game. Got a text from a coach I know saying Lebron was even "oooing and ahhing" at Juwan Staten. The passion and intensity I saw in these games was as good or better than anything in the NCAA tourney. Just a joy to watch.

Our opinions differ. I think Weatherspoon is going to be big, big time. He is only a junior and in 2 years he gets Sean Miller. To me he is quicker off his feet then Chris Wright and being left handed will be an advantage to him. Guy has all the talent in the world. He is fluid and he is just an unreal athlete. To me he has more upside then anyone on the floor tonight including Sullinger who I think is a bit overrated and his body build seems that he may have a hard time keeping his weight down in the next few years. Yes JD needs to work on some things but the kid has sick ability and his 18 and 8 tonight were the reason Northland won the state.

[Xman95]

To me he has more upside then anyone on the floor tonight including Sullinger who I think is a bit overrated and his body build seems that he may have a hard time keeping his weight down in the next few years.

First time I saw Sullinger, the name "Kevin Duckworth" popped into my head. Next was "Stanley Roberts." Yes, I realize they had more size than Sullinger, but he looked like one of those guys who was a fat kid waiting to break out. That doesn't mean he will be a tub of goo. There's a chance that this kid works hard, stays in shape and becomes a beast. He obviously has skills. But he does look like a kid who will have to work harder than most to avoid weight issues.

[X Factor]

Our opinions differ. I think Weatherspoon is going to be big, big time. He is only a junior and in 2 years he gets Sean Miller. To me he is quicker off his feet then Chris Wright and being left handed will be an advantage to him. Guy has all the talent in the world. He is fluid and he is just an unreal athlete. To me he has more upside then anyone on the floor tonight including Sullinger who I think is a bit overrated and his body build seems that he may have a hard time keeping his weight down in the next few years. Yes JD needs to work on some things but the kid has sick ability and his 18 and 8 tonight were the reason Northland won the state.

And he only played about 3 minutes in the first half due to foul trouble. I don't think he scored in the first half. The announcers said he was the best player in the tournament.

I said before in this thread or another thread that JD is more explosive than Derrick or Jamel. The kid just rises without effort and dunks it from a standstill. Just off the charts athletic.

I also watched the game with Juwan Staten and he put on a show in the first half. He scored 20 points and had his way with SVSM. Dayton is getting an excellent point guard.

I can't believe we have to wait another year to watch JD in a Xavier uniform.

I'll be shocked if he doesn't rise in the rankings this summer. He could end up being a 4* Top 50-75 player.

Did anyone see the starting lineups before the game? When JD was announced he ran out with his arms crossed in the "X"! I loved it.

[AdamtheFlyer]

Our opinions differ. I think Weatherspoon is going to be big, big time. He is only a junior and in 2 years he gets Sean Miller. To me he is quicker off his feet then Chris Wright and being left handed will be an advantage to him. Guy has all the talent in the world. He is fluid and he is just an unreal athlete. To me he has more upside then anyone on the floor tonight including Sullinger who I think is a bit overrated and his body build seems that he may have a hard time keeping his weight down in the next few years. Yes JD needs to work on some things but the kid has sick ability and his 18 and 8 tonight were the reason Northland won the state.

Well, I think the kid with the most upside is Jordan Seibert. He has top 5 NBA pick potential. He strikes me as a Danny Granger type, and maybe more athletic. When he gets to OSU I think he'll be a better version of Evan Turner. His ability to blow by everyone on the floor and finish in traffic are second to no one that I've seen this year, and his outside shot is becoming a killer weapon too. IMO, he's the most physically gifted HS player in the state of Ohio this year, and will be next year, too. Only Payne, Staten, and Weatherspoon come close to him in that regard, and I'm not convinced they are that close.

I like Weatherspoon a lot. He's got the springs, the quickness, and most importantly the natural ability to play. He does need a lot of work, but how many kids don't at that age? He definitely could be big time. I honestly can see him possessing Derrick Brown's perimeter skills with CJ Anderson's interior tenacity in 3-4 years. He's in that rare group of kids that have no limit. They can be as good as they want to be, because they're just more naturally gifted than everyone else.

And I agree about Sullinger. He's good, very strong inside, but I don't see him as a Dejuan Blair undersized, incredibly strong center type right now. He could be that in time, though. I'm not sure I get him as a top ranked player, see him as more of a project. He doesn't have that much natural ability. He dominates because he's bigger and stronger than everyone. At this point, his basketball skill is not impressive like a shoo-in McDonald's all american should be.

I saw Jeremy Tyler (2010 going to Louisville) and I thought he was a much better college type player. Long, athletic, good touch, but plays very strong. Lots of room to grow into his body, whereas Sullinger will have to get a lot leaner to meet his hype, IMO. The biggest thing he has going for him is the general opinion that he's not a one, or even two, and done type player. 4 years from now he may be finishing an incredible junior year at OSU.

[dc_x]

Well, I think the kid with the most upside is Jordan Seibert. He has top 5 NBA pick potential.

I agree that Sibert was the best player on the court. He is a big-time college 2-guard right now.

I'm not sure what to think of Weatherspoon. He can jump and made some free throws, but that's about all I saw him do. At 6'6" he will need to play further from the basket and he didn't really need to do that against Princeton. He probably needs to develop a jump shot and ball handling skills to be effective.

I wasn't that impressed with Sullinger. He's huge for a high school player, but his footwork and touch were not impressive. I don't see him as a dominant post player in the Big 10 without a lot of improvement.

[Cincy Muskie]

Weatherspoon reminds me of Bill Walker. This kid attacks the rim with authority. CJ Anderson averaged double figures and hit a jumpshot from 12' and out how many times in his career? Hopefully a great jumpshot will come along for JD, but he has plenty to contribute right now. He has big time upside and imagine what playing alongside Kenny Frease as a junior will do for his opportunities near the rim. At 16 years of age he still has growth potential both physically and skills wise. He scored 18 points in about 19 minutes of play in a state championship game. Needless to say I was fairly impressed with him overall.

[X Factor]

In the semi-final game, JD was 1-1 from three point range. He already has more range than CJ Anderson. JD can use EITHER hand around the basket to score. He has good touch in the lane on those 10-12 footers.

He still has another year of high school left! His upside is huge!!

[Juice]

Northland won the State Cahmpionship last night against Princeton 60-58. JD had 18 points, which was tops for his team, and all of them came in the 2nd half.

[UnCaged]

WAtched the game in its entirety and I have many of the same thoughts as you all on the ridiculous talent on the floor. Siebert was very smooth and is indeed reday for serious college ball..as a 17-year old.

Sullinger just doesn't impress me. He's got a ton of junk in the back area and he's not super athletic. Juniors in high school shouldn't be that round and I think it could lead to serious mobility concerns in the future. All that being said, he's a junior and lead his team when it mattered. With his reasonably nice stroke from 15 and the line, he's still a very skilled player.

JD is very, very, very athletic and he hit a 3 as well. 2 early fouls doomed him to about 4 minutes of pt in the first half...then he took over the 3rd quarter. He's 16 years old and is going to be special. For those of you who waited til the trophy presentation, he also gave an X to the crowd afterward. I love that he's excited to play at X, any improvement to his game will make him a freak in college. Probably make Jordan and Jared jealous of his years of success in the tournament....unlike whatever they're stepping into.

[xu15]

I think if you are going to say Bill Walker, here's what I think of. JD is more explosive, with maybe even more upside. Walker was slightly better with ballhandling and had a little better jumpshot, but in some of these videos JD has knocked down a few threes and a couple jumpers. This puts him already ahead of CJ in that category as he actually has something to build on. Im very excited for this kid. Sean Miller and staff can develop players. Period. He's gonna be fun to watch.

[birdman71]

J.D. put up 25 in the semi and 18 in the final, a win yesterday.
Pretty good for a junior playing with Ohio Mr. B-ball on the same team.


Wear blue at games.

[X Factor]

Here are highlights from the State Championship game. When they announce the starting lineups, JD gives everyone the "X" on his way out. Love it.
Game Highlights (http://columbuscityleague.com/Sports/basketball/bk0809/32809Nlandstatechamps.html)


http://columbuscityleague.com/images/238.JPG

http://columbuscityleague.com/images/328.JPG

[kyxu]

Here are highlights from the State Championship game. When they announce the starting lineups, JD gives everyone the "X" on his way out. Love it.

As does the rest of his team. It's pretty nice.

[golfitup]

I like that he's a lefty. Always a good change of pace.

[kellernr]

And hes now de-committed from Xavier. Looking at going to AZ with Miller.

[A10fan]

And hes now de-committed from Xavier. Looking at going to AZ with Miller.


So what! He's a good player but not a program changer. Who's to say that the next HC won't bring players better than Spoon or that Spoon may actually re-commit to X. Let's let this play out before we decide what really was lost.

[xu15]

So what! He's a good player but not a program changer. Who's to say that the next HC won't bring players better than Spoon or that Spoon may actually re-commit to X. Let's let this play out before we decide what really was lost.

Yeah, but I can't help being pretty pissed. Good news is, we still have a chance (especially if we are as good as we should be), but if those things don't work out, then hes gone. I was pumped about this kid and now nothing is worse than uncertainty.

Do we have any chance at all of keeping Latham?

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Yeah, but I can't help being pretty pissed. Good news is, we still have a chance (especially if we are as good as we should be), but if those things don't work out, then hes gone. I was pumped about this kid and now nothing is worse than uncertainty.

Do we have any chance at all of keeping Latham?

I'm pissed too. i cant even watch the highlights anymore...Who knows, maybe if mack is hired he'll re-commit. he would definitely help the program.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

add Maryland to the list thats after him now

[DC Muskie]

Spoon ain't coming here. He wants to play in a big conference. I think he ends up at Ohio State.

[Masterofreality]

Spoon ain't coming here. He wants to play in a big conference. I think he ends up at Ohio State.

Beaknose is running out of schollys since their losing one or two because of the APR deficiency. Evan Turner will leave early next year taking another one away. I don't think there's enough left to offer Spoon. Toucan has a bunch of committs already. he may have to back off one.

[Xman95]

Spoon ain't coming here. He wants to play in a big conference. I think he ends up at Ohio State.

I think 'spoon would go to a good program just as soon as a good conference. Remember, up until a couple weeks ago he was heading to the A-10. It's not like we were in a big conference two weeks ago and aren't now. He could wind up in a big conference but only because that's where most of the good programs are.

[_LH]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2009/04/23/osu_mbk_0423.ART_ART_04-23-09_C2_FSDL1EH.html?sid=101

[Titanxman04]

Sullinger is a TERRIBLE coach, by the way. Only reason he's there is because his boys went there.

On Weatherspoon, I think Mack has a shot, and it sucks. I was so pumped to see him play and he really has the ability to become an amazing player where ever he goes. Hopefully he realizes X is the right place for him and good things will come wearing the blue and white.

[Murph85]

This guy is as good as gone. Another Ohio State recruit,Cameron Wright, just asked to get out of his commitment and the Cleveland Plain Dealer even references Weatherspoon as the guy they want to fill the spot.

Loosing a coach has a lot of twist and turns. Hopefully we have irons in other fires at this point.

[XU 87]

From what I 've read, I wouldn't be so quick to think that Weatherspoon is going to OSU. It might happen but it's not by any means a done deal. X is still very much in the running.

[_LH]

From what I 've read, I wouldn't be so quick to think that Weatherspoon is going to OSU. It might happen but it's not by any means a done deal. X is still very much in the running.

Link? Source?

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

I think he originally wanted to go to OSU but thad was waiting to see what payne would do. So X jumped in.

[The Artist]

Link? Source?

For a small amount per month, you can read about it all on rivals.

[_LH]

Thanks Artist.

Is that where 87 "read" what he read about JD? If that's the case, I respect Snow's opinion.

Btw, I used to belong to that site but for me it was only really worth it for like 3 or 4 out of the 12 months of the year but that was just me.

[The Artist]

Thanks Artist.

Is that where 87 "read" what he read about JD? If that's the case, I respect Snow's opinion.

Btw, I used to belong to that site but for me it was only really worth it for like 3 or 4 out of the 12 months of the year but that was just me.

I won't say for sure where 87 read it, and I doubt you're the only one who feels this way, referring to the bold statement.

[Xman95]

From the bits and pieces I have seen/heard, my guess is that JD is heading to OSU. I realize there are some things that say X is still in the running, but I just don't see it. I guess if he hasn't committed anywhere and is still talking to teams then they are all in the running. But often times it's obvious that there's one clear leader and several soon to be "also rans" in the mix.

[AdamtheFlyer]

From the bits and pieces I have seen/heard, my guess is that JD is heading to OSU. I realize there are some things that say X is still in the running, but I just don't see it. I guess if he hasn't committed anywhere and is still talking to teams then they are all in the running. But often times it's obvious that there's one clear leader and several soon to be "also rans" in the mix.

The OSU crowd seems to think it's merely a formality at this point. Matta was at Northland to talk with administrators and get a transcript...which is what happens right before an offer comes down. Most believe JD will say yes before Matta even finishes the sentence "I would like to offer you a spot on our team."

If for some reason OSU doesn't offer, then X is at the table. I don't think it's a stretch to say not getting a quicker offer from OSU is the reason he committed to X in the first place.

[Cincy Muskie]

JD's heart is to play for the Buckeyes. He is from Columbus. No doubt a terrific talent but the focus is moving onto other targets at this point.

Travis Steele's Indiana connections will be paying divendends sooner rather than later. Mack is working over Georgia it appears and we know Bino has been working hard. You miss more than you hit in recruiting and life (plus winning) on Victory Parkway will go on.

[The Artist]

JD's heart is to play for the Buckeyes. He is from Columbus. No doubt a terrific talent but the focus is moving onto other targets at this point.

Travis Steele's Indiana connections will be paying divendends sooner rather than later. Mack is working over Georgia it appears and we know Bino has been working hard. You miss more than you hit in recruiting and life (plus winning) on Victory Parkway will go on.

Do you have a source for this or it is just a hunch, because people who speak directly to JD do not agree with you.

Not to attack you directly, but one of my biggest problems with this board is uninformed opinions that are delivered as if they were facts.

That is not to say that he won't sign with OSU, but there are some negatives there for JD.

[_LH]

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040709/SPORTS04/407090374/-1/SPORTS

I wish more kids were like Raymond.

[Xman95]

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040709/SPORTS04/407090374/-1/SPORTS

I wish more kids were like Raymond.

While I understand your point, we can't overlook the fact that his lead recruiter was named Head Coach. I'm guessing that if Book was the top assistant under Miller and was named HC when Sean left, Parrom and Latham would still be committed to Xavier. But, with the HC and their main recruiter gone, it's understandable that they have backed out for now. And, had Miller not been named to follow Matta, BJ might have done the same thing.

[LutherRackleyRulez]

2010 tOSU commit Cameron Wright parts way with b'eyes....

offer to JD on the way????



Per Cleveland PD
***Significant statement in article...

And Stircula and Wright have already heard the buzz that the Buckeyes are close to offering a scholarship -- what had been Wright's offer -- to forward J.D. Weatherspoon of Columbus Northland, who backed off his oral commitment to Xavier after coach Sean Miller left for Arizona.


http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2009/04/benedictine_guard_cameron_wrig.html


Per bucknuts......


http://bucknuts.com/news/articles/2009/4/22/wright-likely-doesnt-see-osu-as-right-fit-anymore

[vee4xu]

Guy whose kid goes to Northland and follows the team closely said the Weatherspoon can really only dunk the ball. He has no outside shot. Sounds a lot like Derrick when he arrived at X. This said, he is a junior and has another year to develop an outside shot.

[Xman95]

Guy whose kid goes to Northland and follows the team closely said the Weatherspoon can really only dunk the ball. He has no outside shot. Sounds a lot like Derrick when he arrived at X. This said, he is a junior and has another year to develop an outside shot.

Honestly, JD is pure athleticism. When I have seen him (admittedly not a whole heck of a lot) he hasn't impressed me with his basketball skills. Most of his scoring comes off cutting to the hoop when Sullinger gets doubled or on fast breaks. At this point his raw athletic ability is what makes him so much better than most high school kids he plays against.

But, as a 6'6" PF, his athletic ability will only get him so far in college. If he develops his skills and can transform into a SF, he'll be a stud and will probably move to the next level. However, if his basketball game doesn't improve and he tries to get by on raw talent alone, he'll be a nice role player. To some extent he's a shorter McLean.

So only time will tell whether the hype translates to production in college.

[Titanxman04]

Guy whose kid goes to Northland and follows the team closely said the Weatherspoon can really only dunk the ball. He has no outside shot. Sounds a lot like Derrick when he arrived at X. This said, he is a junior and has another year to develop an outside shot.

I watched the final four at states. He's a solid, solid player. But idiot coach runs everything through his son, the other Sullinger kid who's actually pretty fat, slow, and out of shape. JD hit some outside shots, but like I said, the coach runs everything through his kid and is widely regarded as an inept coach who's only there because his tow kids played there.

Seriously, the last play of the state championship was an inbound play with 7 to go. Tie game, who does he give it to? His son, the center, who gets the ball at halfcourt, tries to isolate his man, and hoists up a three. If the other Princeton kid didn't foul him, Princeton could have possibly won it in overtime. JD is solid, he just has all second-chance looks since the offense isn't ran through him.

[CleXU]

(free information on rivals) Rivals shows that Weatherspoon was also being looked at/recruited by Wake Forest by none other than Pat Kelsey. I wonder if this will have a positive affect and maybe start moving J.D. back towards Xavier. It was also interesting to see how many kids in the 2010 class were being recruited by some of our new assistant coaches at their previous schools. If a few of those kids can be swung Xavier's way then 2010 I think could be very niceeeeeee. Only bad thing was seeing all the people Xavier was on the "in" with and then seeing that they were being recruited by Richardson or Whitford... damn you rivals for not updating!!!!

[gladdenguy]

I agree Cle....I think our 2010 class could be solid when all is said and done.

The recruits are going to be there. If Mack and co can keep that suffocating defense we could be in for some special years.

[xufan02]

Spoon got his tOSU offer last night. The fact that he did not jump on it over night, and said he is going to take his time is a good sign.

[xunorm]

I think the question he should ask himself is "Do I want to go to a team that is highly talented, underachieves, and makes me sit on the bench for a couple years; or do I want to go to a school known for developing players at my position where I can get substantial playing time right away?"




I honestly believe that 'spoon is still really considering X. He just wanted to take a step back after Miller left, just like every other recruit that was looking at Xavier.

[BlueX]

http://www.bucknuts.com/news/articles/2009/5/4/northlands-weatherspoon-mulls-osu-offer

This article doesn't sound so promising for X.

[xunorm]

Appears that all the people in his ear are telling him to go to OSU, but honestly, I think the longer he waits, the better it might be for everyone else.

[Xman95]

He might take his time, but he's going to OSU. If he happens to add a couple inches, they'll have one heck of a PF (assuming he develops his b-ball skills because athletically he's a freak).

X need to just chalk this one up as a loss/miss and move on...if it hasn't already. Go after Payne and pair him with Frease. If they miss on A.P., it probably means he's going to UD to play with Staten and suddenly X could potentially be #3 in the state instead of #1.

[kyxu]

X need to just chalk this one up as a loss/miss and move on...if it hasn't already. Go after Payne and pair him with Frease. If they miss on A.P., it probably means he's going to UD to play with Staten and suddenly X could potentially be #3 in the state instead of #1.

Fortunately, they're not. I think people need to wait on this a little bit.

[xunorm]

Odds probably were that Matta may have offered him anyway, and he would have switched. Then we really would have been irritated.

[kyxu]

Odds probably were that Matta may have offered him anyway, and he would have switched. Then we really would have been irritated.

Sorry, but where were you getting these odds?

[Muskie]

He has an offer from OSU. He didn't jump all over it. I'd say that's a good sign.

[Xman95]

He has an offer from OSU. He didn't jump all over it. I'd say that's a good sign.

I would say it's him just taking it all in, milking some visits, then signing with the program he dreams of playing for - OSU. Of course he might also be waiting just to see if any bigger name programs jump in now that he's getting a little more hype. Or possibly he's considering checking out AZ. But, as far as X having a shot, I highly doubt it.

[Muskie]

I would say it's him just taking it all in, milking some visits, then signing with the program he dreams of playing for - OSU. Of course he might also be waiting just to see if any bigger name programs jump in now that he's getting a little more hype. Or possibly he's considering checking out AZ. But, as far as X having a shot, I highly doubt it.

He visited OSU at least ten times unofficially. That tells me at one point he was really interested. The fact that he didn't accept on the spot tells me he's not 100 percent sold on OSU. Keep in mind this kid has already done one round of visits at most of the other schools interested.

I could be completely wrong, but I think it's a good sign he didn't commit on the spot.

[Xman95]

I could be completely wrong, but I think it's a good sign he didn't commit on the spot.

I could be wrong as well, but I just don't necessarily think it's a good sign for X.:)

Seriously, though, none of us really knows and it's all just guessing on our part. Ah, the fun of the college hoops world in May. (By the way, I wouldn't mind being the one who is wrong on this!)

[xunorm]

I think right now we are in kind of a pessimistic mode because Miller left, recruits decommitted, and Brown is in limbo. I think pretty much everyone here believes in Mack, but we don't yet BELIEVE in Mack. For me, a lot of faith will be restored once we get that first good recruit to commit to Xavier.

[XU05and07]

He visited OSU at least ten times unofficially. That tells me at one point he was really interested. The fact that he didn't accept on the spot tells me he's not 100 percent sold on OSU. Keep in mind this kid has already done one round of visits at most of the other schools interested.

I could be completely wrong, but I think it's a good sign he didn't commit on the spot.

He's holding out for a better deal...hoping to a get a "job" at a car dealership

[Xman95]

He's holding out for a better deal...hoping to a get a "job" at a car dealership

Maybe he's trying to get in contact with Maurice Clarett to get some guidance about how things work at OSU.

By the way, I was checking wikipedia and Mo has a blog about prison life: The Mind of Maurice Clarett. Here's a little from the wiki page:

Clarett sums up his attitude by saying about prison by saying "Understand my struggle so you can respect my hustle. I am never coming back here, believe that. Never, I am cool on this. It is first-class living from the day I get out. I WILL NEVER SETTLE FOR LESS, EVER AGAIN. That goes for communication, personal relationships, housing, education, friendships, and travel arrangements. Everything. I have the fire in my eyes."

Travel arrangements??? I guess he's going to have a limo bring him from the pen back to Y-town.

[Juice]

Maybe he's trying to get in contact with Maurice Clarett to get some guidance about how things work at OSU.

By the way, I was checking wikipedia and Mo has a blog about prison life: The Mind of Maurice Clarett. Here's a little from the wiki page:

Clarett sums up his attitude by saying about prison by saying "Understand my struggle so you can respect my hustle. I am never coming back here, believe that. Never, I am cool on this. It is first-class living from the day I get out. I WILL NEVER SETTLE FOR LESS, EVER AGAIN. That goes for communication, personal relationships, housing, education, friendships, and travel arrangements. Everything. I have the fire in my eyes."

Travel arrangements??? I guess he's going to have a limo bring him from the pen back to Y-town.

Since his football career is over, I am sure he wished he had a college degree to fall back on to help fund that "first class living."

[Xman95]

Since his football career is over, I am sure he wished he had a college degree to fall back on to help fund that "first class living."

Or some sort of training. It's like Big Daddy Kane said, PIMPIN' AIN'T EASY!

[Muskie]

I could be wrong as well, but I just don't necessarily think it's a good sign for X.:)

Seriously, though, none of us really knows and it's all just guessing on our part. Ah, the fun of the college hoops world in May. (By the way, I wouldn't mind being the one who is wrong on this!)

So true. But hey it's an excuse to talk basketball.

[AviatorX]

By no means should any X fan write off Air Spoon.

And to whoever said Payne is down to XU and UD...wishful thinking.

[xufan02]

Payne does not know who he is considering. He is a very talented player, but has yet to take recruiting seriously.

[AviatorX]

AviatorX-------I don't think Adrien Payne has a clue where he wants to go....it's too early

Hence my comment on those that think anyone has been eliminated for the sweepstakes for his services.

[Muskie]

Weatherspoon was apparently on campus this weekend for an unofficial visit. (source: friends on campus).

[AviatorX]

Weatherspoon was apparently on campus this weekend for an unofficial visit. (source: friends on campus).

This is true.

[xufan02]

Do not know how good of a source it is, but scroll down and see what they have written about JD. Also the fact that he was on campus last weekend are good signs.


http://w3.nbebasketball.com/2009/05/03/sunday-run-n-slam-updates/

[AviatorX]

No news is good news at this point with Spoon. I'd have to think that if he was going to be a Buckeye, it would have been relatively quick.

[xufan02]

Getting JD and Latham back are priorities 1a and 1b.

[BlueX]

Do not know how good of a source it is, but scroll down and see what they have written about JD. Also the fact that he was on campus last weekend are good signs.


http://w3.nbebasketball.com/2009/05/03/sunday-run-n-slam-updates/

That is some great news.

[More Cowbell]

http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/864435.html

[xu15]

This brightens up my day a little bit more. Hope its true. I really want Spoon.

[xufan02]

If Weatherspoon wanted to be a Buckeye, he would have already verballed. I'm not sure he is sold on his role for the program and Matta's style. Xavier is very much in the mix.

[kyxu]

It should be pointed out that the NBE article is dated May 3rd, which was before his Ohio State offer.

Still, I like Xavier's chances to bring Weatherspoon back.

[kdawg23]

JD won't make a decision until the Fall, so I wouldn't read too much into articles at this point.

[AviatorX]

JD won't make a decision until the Fall, so I wouldn't read too much into articles at this point.

I certainly would not say that.

[xsteve1]

I think he'll end up at X. He can do really well in Xavier's system and in the A10 at OSU with all their one and done's he could be over recruited in any year.

[kdawg23]

I certainly would not say that.

JD has made the comment that he will be taking all of his official visits in the fall before making a decision.

[AviatorX]

JD has made the comment that he will be taking all of his official visits in the fall before making a decision.

I realize this, but a lot of guys say stuff like that, then realize that they just want to get it over with before senior year starts so they can focus on the team, school, etc. I've seen it happen with guys from my HS.

[ChrisFarley]

You have to think Spoon would have signed with OSU by now. :)

[Muskie91]

This info seems stale but found this in today's enquirer:

http://rodeo.cincinnati.com/getlocal/gpstory.aspx?id=100204&sid=149628

I think the game updates are recent.

[kdawg23]

This info seems stale but found this in today's enquirer:

http://rodeo.cincinnati.com/getlocal/gpstory.aspx?id=100204&sid=149628

I think the game updates are recent.

Must be a slow news day. Flyin to the Hoop was back in January.

[xu15]

Someone said they heard we were closing back in on Spoon and Latham. Anyone heard anything like this?

[ChrisFarley]

Someone said they heard we were closing back in on Spoon and Latham. Anyone heard anything like this?

From the baltimore sun, a story maybe 2 months ago broke that Latham had XU as his #1 choice. As for Spoon, he'll keep everyone guessing. I'd imagine if Oh State beats USC in The Shoe, the euphoria will overwhelm Spooner and he'll sign on with the Buckeyes.

I'd imagine, with the hard work spent on these two, Chris and Pat won't give up until theses two recruits commit somewhere.

I do read a lot of XU recruiting's being done in the South, mostly in Georgia. I've read as many as 10-15 recruits for 2010 have XU as a choice and several of these Georgia recruits have been offered a full ride. Check out some of the Georgia high school hoops websites and you can track down the news on these recruits.

[gladdenguy]

From the baltimore sun, a story maybe 2 months ago broke that Latham had XU as his #1 choice. As for Spoon, he'll keep everyone guessing. I'd imagine if Oh State beats USC in The Shoe, the euphoria will overwhelm Spooner and he'll sign on with the Buckeyes.

I'd imagine, with the hard work spent on these two, Chris and Pat won't give up until theses two recruits commit somewhere.

I do read a lot of XU recruiting's being done in the South, mostly in Georgia. I've read as many as 10-15 recruits for 2010 have XU as a choice and several of these Georgia recruits have been offered a full ride. Check out some of the Georgia high school hoops websites and you can track down the news on these recruits.

We can tell you know absolutely nothing about Weatherspoon and Latham after reading your quote.
Thanks for the effort.

[PMI]

I'd imagine if Oh State beats USC in The Shoe, the euphoria will overwhelm Spooner and he'll sign on with the Buckeyes.


Yea, sure. If the OSU football team pulls off the win against the Trojans, "Spooner" is a Buckeye. The euphoria will be too much to handle and Spooner will simply lose control of his ability to consider any other alternative. This is the kind of shit you here from typical Buckeye fans, but you'd expect a little more rationale on a Xavier board. Good reasoning and thanks for all the useful posts.

Here's my prediction: Weatherspoon will make his final choice, whether that be XU, OSU, or somewhere else, based on basketball and the university environment. If OSU wins it all or if the XU club team goes undefeated, his decision won't be impacted either way. Just a hunch.

[kyxu]

Weatherspoon's not going to wait until college football season to decide.

[Xman95]

Based on the intro of a report on Rivals, it looks like 'spoon wants to get an in-person look at Maryland.

[xufan02]

With PG Arron Craft verbaling to the Buckeyes today; they only have one scholarship left for the 2010 class. I would imagine that if Spoon wants to be a Buckeye it will happen soon. My guess is that he will be a Musketeer.

[AviatorX]

With PG Arron Craft verbaling to the Buckeyes today; they only have one scholarship left for the 2010 class. I would imagine that if Spoon wants to be a Buckeye it will happen soon. My guess is that he will be a Musketeer.

Yeah but I think OSU is pretty much counting on one or two guys leaving early (Evan Turner definitely will), which would open up additional scholarships.

[Juice]

Yeah but I think OSU is pretty much counting on one or two guys leaving early (Evan Turner definitely will), which would open up additional scholarships.

If the NBA wouldn't have made Mark Titus withdraw his name from the draft list they would maybe have had another scholarship.

[UnCaged]

If the NBA wouldn't have made Mark Titus withdraw his name from the draft list they would maybe have had another scholarship.

I love the Shark as much as anyone, but he's not on scholarship so it doesn't affect that boat. However, Spoon may see him being there as a negative as he is nervous about being dotted upon arrival.

[kdawg23]

Yeah but I think OSU is pretty much counting on one or two guys leaving early (Evan Turner definitely will), which would open up additional scholarships.

OSU has already filled their open scholarships. The one "open" scholarship they have is Evan Turner's.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Don't know if you guys saw this or not, but JD was in town over the weekend for his AAU team at Princeton. Looks like Cheeks and Jordan Crawford were in the stands to watch.

http://crosstownshoutout.blogspot.com/2009/06/x-recruiting-updates.html

[BlueX]

http://www.bucknuts.com/blog/post-detail.php?p=6882

Nothing really new. Still looks like it's X vs. OSU.

[xufan02]

This is a big weekend for Xavier in regards to JD. If he is not locked up before he leaves on Sunday he is going to be a Buckeye.

[kdawg23]

Big Weekend!!!! Yeah baby yeah!!!!:eek::cool::D:p

[xu15]

This is a big, big weekend for the staff. They need to prove themselves here and make this happen. Solidifying JD is a big deal in getting our swag back.

[AviatorX]

No inside info or anything, but I don't have a good feeling at all about this one.

[xu15]

Don't tell me that.

But I think youre right. Which is not cool cuz I really want Spoon and I think he could be great at X.

[Atlas]

I hope he decides xavier is the place for him. It is awesome the way Coach Mack is digging in to keep the players that waivered after Miller left. Get 'em coach

[X-man]

No inside info or anything, but I don't have a good feeling at all about this one.

Read the GoBucks link a couple posts above. It sounds like Spoon and Mack have a good relationship, one that very easily could get him back into the fold.

[AviatorX]

Read the GoBucks link a couple posts above. It sounds like Spoon and Mack have a good relationship, one that very easily could get him back into the fold.

I mean I have no doubts that they have a great relationship considering he chose X once and we're once again in his final two, but the pressure is definitely on him to stay in Columbus and continue playing with Sullinger, Sibert, and whoever else from All Ohio Red ends up in Scarlet and Gray.

[kyxu]

I mean I have no doubts that they have a great relationship considering he chose X once and we're once again in his final two, but the pressure is definitely on him to stay in Columbus and continue playing with Sullinger, Sibert, and whoever else from All Ohio Red ends up in Scarlet and Gray.

Yeah, I agree. It really stinks, but a factor in this process is that JD is from Columbus, and there is a tremendous pull to Ohio State if you are a young man from Columbus.

[AviatorX]

Yeah, I agree. It really stinks, but a factor in this process is that JD is from Columbus, and there is a tremendous pull to Ohio State if you are a young man from Columbus.

Not saying I know the kid or anything, but it seems like JD is a pretty emotional, intense guy who wears his emotions on his sleeve (see him de-committing within 5 mins. of Miller leaving), so if there is a guy to buck that trend, I'd imagine it would be someone like Spoon. Maybe just wishful thinking though.

[Xman95]

They need to prove themselves here and make this happen.

I kind of figured they did that with the Latham re-commit and the early verbal from Davis.

Look, it would be great to have someone with the athletic ability of JD. But, if he doesn't pick X, I'm sure Mack and Co. will still be able to sleep tonight knowing that they still have guys like Jones, Canty, etc. to work on. At 6'6" Weatherspoon is a guy who will be more suited to play SF if he can improve his perimeter skills. He might (stress might) still grow a couple inches still and would be a nasty PF if he winds up around 6'8", but that's something you can't count on.

So a re-commit from 'spoon would obviously be received very well. But we shouldn't make the situation bigger and more important that it really is.

[Cincy Muskie]

With the way he seems to waiver back and forth even we did secure another 'verbal' from JD this weekend I wouldn't take it to the bank until he signs his LOI. I would like to see him come to X as much as the next guy but my head tells me OSU will be alot to walk away from for him.

[kyxu]

With the way he seems to waiver back and forth even we did secure another 'verbal' from JD this weekend I wouldn't take it to the bank until he signs his LOI. I would like to see him come to X as much as the next guy but my head tells me OSU will be alot to walk away from for him.

I think whomever Weatherspoon picks this time, he's sticking with. Granted, the OSU offer is a lot to ponder for a kid from that area, but once he makes his decision public, I don't see him waivering.

If he were that kind of kid (not solid on his first choice), he would've picked Ohio State by now.

[Cincy Muskie]

I can see your point kyxu. Tough decision for him, obviously I hope he picks X. If not he will still be somebody to keep tabs on the next few seasons. Even if 'Spoon commits I see Mack and staff adding another frontcourt player in this class.

[xufan02]

Spoon has a lot of local pressure on him to commit to OSU. At the end of the day I'm fine with his decision if it is his and his alone. Even if we do not land Spoon we are in very good shape with Canty, Martin, and Jones. I think one more big and one or two more wings will round out the class.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Spoon has a lot of local pressure on him to commit to OSU. At the end of the day I'm fine with his decision if it is his and his alone. Even if we do not land Spoon we are in very good shape with Canty, Martin, and Jones. I think one more big and one or two more wings will round out the class.

Out of JD/martin/jones/canty, which is the best player?

[xu15]

Out of JD/martin/jones/canty, which is the best player?

Depends on who you are talking to and what you are looking for.....
You might wanna try to elaborate

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Depends on who you are talking to and what you are looking for.....
You might wanna try to elaborate

Ok sorry. Let me rephrase. Who is the most capable of coming to X and contending for serious playing time their freshman year?

[AviatorX]

Ok sorry. Let me rephrase. Who is the most capable of coming to X and contending for serious playing time their freshman year?

Without seeing much of any of them and simply reading things here and there:

Canty is the best defender currently.

Jones is the best offensive player, could probably score double figures as a frosh.

Weatherspoon has the highest ceiling with his freakish athleticism and improving shooting.

[xufan02]

I would say the best fit for what Xavier needs at the SF spot is Jones. He is a 6'6 wing with great atheleticsm (not a freak like JD), good handles, and is a good shooter out to 20 feet. He would be the most ready to contribute as a frosh.

Canty is a good prospect but needs work on this shot. Martin would be a good pick-up as well, he is a good shooter, but his body needs some weight training.

Hell, I would take all 4 if we could, but we only have three scholarships left. I would like to see Latham, Weatherspoon, and Jones as the core of the 2010 class. The last scholarship going to the best available player, a post player would be preferred.

[LyonsIsFlyin]

Only thing I'll add to who'd be the best out of the 4 players, JD would come in as a 4 and by his junior year would probably be playing both 4 and 3, so best for the wing position would be Jones for his offensive ability as previously stated, but overall to the program JD's potential and the fact he'd be used as a 4 would probably be more needed.

[Atlas]

Spoon has a lot of local pressure on him to commit to OSU. At the end of the day I'm fine with his decision if it is his and his alone. Even if we do not land Spoon we are in very good shape with Canty, Martin, and Jones. I think one more big and one or two more wings will round out the class.

I would love to get Canty, Martin, or Jones but are we in the mix in signing any of these or are they on a dream list?

[XU99deuce]

Most definitely not dreaming.

[Atlas]

Most definitely not dreaming.

That would be sweet then

[therick44]

Weatherspoon is an absolute freak don't get me wrong, but I don't know if he's what X needs. I really think we are going to be needing a go-to scorer. That and the fact that as of now Weatherspoon doesn't really have a position at the college level makes me ok with losing him to OSU.

FWIW, On his facebook three or four days ago it said "I Need Everybody In The City Of Columbus Help Na Wait Everyone in Ohio Do Yall Want To See Me In The Scarlet And Grey Spoon A Buckeye Let Me no"

[kyxu]

FWIW, On his facebook three or four days ago it said "I Need Everybody In The City Of Columbus Help Na Wait Everyone in Ohio Do Yall Want To See Me In The Scarlet And Grey Spoon A Buckeye Let Me no"

Heh???

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[Xman95]

Weatherspoon is an absolute freak don't get me wrong, but I don't know if he's what X needs. I really think we are going to be needing a go-to scorer. That and the fact that as of now Weatherspoon doesn't really have a position at the college level makes me ok with losing him to OSU.

I agree. If you told me we would lose 'spoon but get either Jones, Canty or Martin, I would have zero problems with it. JD is very athletic. But, while it seems like it would happen, there's no guarantee 'spoon ever transitions from athlete to basketball player. Those other guys, according to reports, are already basketball players. And from the clips I've seen and the reports I've read, it seems they're pretty good athletes as well.

So, if JD decides to stay home and go to OSU, so be it. Hopefully people don't act like it's the end of the world. The reality is that, if we don't land him, we may very well wind up with someone better.



FWIW, On his facebook three or four days ago it said "I Need Everybody In The City Of Columbus Help Na Wait Everyone in Ohio Do Yall Want To See Me In The Scarlet And Grey Spoon A Buckeye Let Me no"

As for this, is he serious? Does he really think anyone outside of Columbus gives a crap about OSU basketball? Or, for that matter, does he really think most people outside of XU and OSU really know who he is? I'm guessing most people in Youngstown couldn't tell you the difference between JD Weatherspoon and Joe the Plumber.

[boozehound]

Weatherspoon is an absolute freak don't get me wrong, but I don't know if he's what X needs. I really think we are going to be needing a go-to scorer. That and the fact that as of now Weatherspoon doesn't really have a position at the college level makes me ok with losing him to OSU.

FWIW, On his facebook three or four days ago it said "I Need Everybody In The City Of Columbus Help Na Wait Everyone in Ohio Do Yall Want To See Me In The Scarlet And Grey Spoon A Buckeye Let Me no"

If that is a direct quote, wow. It looks like he is going to have some academic work to do as well! I'm not even talking about the punctuation and capitalization, but more the use of no instead of "know".

[Muncie]

He will not need much academic work if he goes to Ohio State as a student Athlete.

[AviatorX]

If that is a direct quote, wow. It looks like he is going to have some academic work to do as well! I'm not even talking about the punctuation and capitalization, but more the use of no instead of "know".

Internet typing/slang. C'mon.

[therick44]

If that is a direct quote, wow. It looks like he is going to have some academic work to do as well! I'm not even talking about the punctuation and capitalization, but more the use of no instead of "know".

Yes it was copy and pasted, but yeah c'mon... it's internet/text talk. It doesn't really mean anything and let's be honest... It's not like improper use of Know vs No is keeping a major prospect off the hardwood.

[boozehound]

He will not need much academic work if he goes to Ohio State as a student Athlete.

You mean athlete student???

[boozehound]

Also, in don't think that typing 'no' instead of 'know' is internet slang.

[X Factor]

Also, in don't think that typing 'no' instead of 'know' is internet slang.

I think you're making way too big of a deal out this. I'm pretty sure everyone at one time or another has used "no" instead of "know" and vice versa.

Spoon is 17 years old and just typing the way most kids do today. God forbid he make a grammatical error.


To answer Spoon's question, NO, I would not like to see you in scarlet and grey!! I want to see you in a Xavier uniform in 2010!!

[kyxu]

Also, in don't think that typing 'no' instead of 'know' is internet slang.

Some people on this board can't get "no" and "know" straight, just like "you're" and "your" or "there" and "their", and most of them are college graduates. What Weatherspoon wrote is nothing to get excited about. I just couldn't understand it.

[kdawg23]

Also, in don't think that typing 'no' instead of 'know' is internet slang.

Actually it is. It's one of those things that people starting using it in text messages and it has grown to the internet.

[kmcrawfo]

Some people on this board can't get "no" and "know" straight, just like "you're" and "your" or "there" and "their", and most of them are college graduates. What Weatherspoon wrote is nothing to get excited about. I just couldn't understand it.

This is wun of my pet peeves. I cunsider myself a pretty educated person. I can't stand it when I see people criticize other peoples' grammar, punctuation, etc. on a message board, facebook, etc...

I meen, people often our just typing messages in a few seconds, hitting post, and then mooving on with more importanat things. Proof reading is the least of concern for this type medium.

This isn't quite a job application or resume here. Incoret speling and grammaticale erros are hardly proof of inteligence, etc.

Now, if I receeve a job application or resume to my corporation with that stuff it is a different story, but facebook and xavierhoops is hardly that format.

sorry i didn't proof read this message before moving on the my next surgery. if their our any errors in it, it certainly is proof I am an ignorant fool/idiot and clearly not Xavier material.

;)

[ThrowDownDBrown]

And here starts the annual ripping of the recruit if he doesn't committ to said favorite school....

[kmcrawfo]

And here starts the annual ripping of the recruit if he doesn't committ to said favorite school....


Isn't it ironic that people complain about recruits being downgraded in the recruiting rankings, once they commit to Xavier vs. a Big-6 school and then perhaps the same people will downgrade/"rip" a recruit when he commits to a school other than "x".

Doesn't the rule cut both ways. A recruit should be ranked and held in the same esteem before/after he commits to any school wether it is Xavier, UC, Duke, or even Dayton.

Maybe it is X fans' rationalization of the loss of a player that we actually covet. Who knows?

[boozehound]

Wow. Silly me for making a crack that someone's failure to use basic grammar properly could cause scholastic problems down the line.

I also was not aware that substituting 'No' for 'Know' was texting-slang. It seems to me that could get pretty confusing.

[AviatorX]

Wow. Silly me for making a crack that someone's failure to use basic grammar properly could cause scholastic problems down the line.

I also was not aware that substituting 'No' for 'Know' was texting-slang. It seems to me that could get pretty confusing.

Don't you no how much time you can save by typing "no" instead of "know?"

It really adds up over the course of a lifetime, you no?

[AviatorX]

And here starts the annual ripping of the recruit if he doesn't committ to said favorite school....

Where is the ripping?

[kmcrawfo]

Where is the ripping?

I think ripping may be a little strong of a word. It does seem that sometimes when a recruit seems to be on the verge or does sign with another school people will start posting things like he really wasn't a good fit, player "x" is better anyway, he is overated, etc... I think this is a pretty natural reaction.

I believe the above poster is referring to the fact that since JD may have been infering in his facebook posting he is leaning towards OSU it may have resulted in the negative remarks about his grammar and that he is not the player we need and that we'd rather have other recruits.

[AviatorX]

I think ripping may be a little strong of a word. It does seem that sometimes when a recruit seems to be on the verge or does sign with another school people will start posting things like he really wasn't a good fit, player "x" is better anyway, he is overated, etc... I think this is a pretty natural reaction.

I believe the above poster is referring to the fact that since JD may have been infering in his facebook posting he is leaning towards OSU it may have resulted in the negative remarks about his grammar and that he is not the player we need and that we'd rather have other recruits.

Now I see what you guys are getting at. Honestly, no need to ever rip on his grammar, who cares? I'd venture to say he's going to make some kind of a living playing basketball, and it's not as if his shorthand typing, which isn't supposed to be perfect, is unreadable.

As for his recruitment, I think it's unwise to give up until he has officially verballed elsewhere (OSU). It seems his opinion has gone back and forth, so IMO, to say anything other than it could go either way is just speculation.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

anyone have any recent updates on JD?

[Xman95]

And here starts the annual ripping of the recruit if he doesn't committ to said favorite school....

For the record, I won't be too concerned if he doesn't choose X. And I'm saying this BEFORE he commits. Would I like to have someone with his athletic ability? Sure, because I think Mack and Co. could translate that ability into a very good basketball player. But, if JD never transitions from athlete to player, it won't matter. And there's no guarantee that transition will ever happen. Worth the risk? Definitely. Worth getting all worked up over if he picks OSU? I don't think so.

[X Factor]

I would STILL LOVE to get Weatherspoon back on board. He has so much potential to be a stud small foward. I know one thing, if Spoon recommits, he'll be our most athletic player ever. Jamail Jones is obviously the more complete player and if he commits, it would be HUGE!

Watch these dunks, it's like he's playing on an 8 foot goal.

Up, Up, and Away (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zetCcw74zXA)

[therick44]

JD played down with the 16's All Ohio Red team tonight. Not sure how that works but it happened and no one cared.

He had one monster dunk and didn't really do anything else... against Ohio Basketball Club's 16's.

[StanleyOwnsYou]

Rumors are swirling about Spoon possibly making a decision before his AAU team goes to Orlando for Nationals on the 22nd of July.

Not sure how you can take this but just thought I I'd pass it along

[Muskie1995]

Rumors are swirling about Spoon possibly making a decision before his AAU team goes to Orlando for Nationals on the 22nd of July.

Not sure how you can take this but just thought I I'd pass it along

Knowing JD, it may or may not happen. If the news comes sooner we can that probaly bodes better for X or OSU; If JD waits it means that another school is in the mix.

As for X, it's either going to be JD or Griff McKenzie I can't see them taking both. Griff is more skilled; JD is more athletic.

[AviatorX]

Knowing JD, it may or may not happen. If the news comes sooner we can that probaly bodes better for X or OSU; If JD waits it means that another school is in the mix.

As for X, it's either going to be JD or Griff McKenzie I can't see them taking both. Griff is more skilled; JD is more athletic.

I'd be absolutely floored if Spoon chose a school not named OSU or XU, no matter how long he waits.

[Muskie1995]

I'd be absolutely floored if Spoon chose a school not named OSU or XU, no matter how long he waits.

I would be too; but with some recruits they treat recruiting like it's a game as to see ho they can keep sitting on pins & needles for their decision.

Now I'm not saying JD is like that as I have absolutely no clue. I'm just prepared to wait instead of getting my hopes of for annoucement within the next week.

[therick44]

And here starts the annual ripping of the recruit if he doesn't committ to said favorite school....

I'm on record as saying what I posted previously in this thread since I first saw JD a year ago.
He's a freak athlete... Doesn't do much else. I'm not saying I don't want him. Just giving my opinion on the guy. I wouldn't call it ripping and it definitely didn't happen because of him considering going to OSU.

[Xman95]

He's a freak athlete... Doesn't do much else.

From what I have seen, that's pretty accurate. At this point he is simply an athlete and a not a basketball player. And, though it's natural to assume that the tranformation will take place, it's possible he will never be a legit player at the college level. That's why I'm not too worked up about the possibility that he might go to OSU. There have been many good athletes who have not been able to turn potential into production.

All that being said, I would be more than willing to let our coaching staff have the chance to turn his athletic skills into basketball skills. (But I won't be looking for the nearest bridge if he decides to live off Sullinger in Columbus.)

[BlueX]

http://www.nbc4i.com/cmh/sports/college/college_basketball/ohio_state_basketball/article/weatherspoon_ill_be_able_to_wait/19482/

JD says he's wide open and in no hurry.

[Xman95]

I have a feeling he's just using the system for some trips. He just better be careful because if X fills its spots and someone like McKenzie or Payne grabs OSU's remaining scholarship, it leaves JD to pick from a handful of schools nowhere close to home.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

removed

Unreal..............

[kyxu]

Muskie1995, that's premium information that shouldn't be posted here.

[LyonsIsFlyin]

Muskie1995, that's premium information that shouldn't be posted here.

Word.

extra characters

[gladdenguy]

I'm not upset with that...I want
Jamail Jones
Griff dog

and
Justin Martin in that order

I hope they end up taking 4 and its jones and griffin...that would be a class

[Muskie1995]

Muskie1995, that's premium information that shouldn't be posted here.

Crap! I completely forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder kyxu!

BSnow, sorry that I let the cat out of the bag! It will not happen again.

[Murph85]

So can someone summarize what has happened with Spoon? I assumed he would not be a Muskie with Canty on board but where did he end up?

[Muskie1995]

So can someone summarize what has happened with Spoon? I assumed he would not be a Muskie with Canty on board but where did he end up?

'Spoon has not made a decision where he will play yet.

The Canty commitment was kind of the writing on the wall for JD considering that they are very similiar players with 'Spoon having the edge in jumping ability.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

We already knew this was coming but lets make it official...

JD committed to OSU

[bobbiemcgee]

yup, spoon a beaknose goon.

[A10fan]

I wish him good luck. It would have been nice to see some of his dunks in an X uniform.

[xunorm]

like said before, you had to see this one coming, especially after thad offered him. I wish him the best, but realize he will most likely only be a high energy player coming off the bench there unless he either grows a couple inches or develops a consistent jump shot. Not knocking him, just saying no matter where he went, that's what he would be for at least his freshman year.

[Titanxman04]

I agree. I can't hold any grudge for the kid and I wish him well. It certainly would have been nice to see him playing at Cintas night in and night out. But I hope he does well. I think he'll be better than Sullenger after watching them play in the state tournament to be honest.

[Xman95]

I agree. I can't hold any grudge for the kid and I wish him well. It certainly would have been nice to see him playing at Cintas night in and night out. But I hope he does well. I think he'll be better than Sullenger after watching them play in the state tournament to be honest.

I think people who don't like Sullinger are influenced by his "fat" body. He doesn't look like an athlete, just a player who is big and soft. But, from what I have seen and read, Sully's legit. And it also seemed that what JD did was basically a result of the doubles that teams put on Sullinger. Many times JD was just standing open near the paint because the attention was focused on his teammate. I would take Sullinger over 'spoon in a heartbeat.

[XU05and07]

As long as he didn't end up out west

[Muskie]

As long as he didn't end up out west

Like in Missouri? :D

[xsteve1]

Put it this way JD had no other choice but to choose OSU.

[Xman95]

Put it this way JD had no other choice but to choose OSU.

Agreed. You know, while he probably had a slight OSU lean, maybe this kid really wasn't sure what he wanted to do so he let other players dictate. Had OSU added another player he would have given word to X. Other players eventually took spots at X (probably leading to X backing off), so OSU got the verbal. Hey, good luck to him.

[Frank D.]

Put it this way JD had no other choice but to choose OSU.

Weatherspoon pretty much confirmed this yesterday. Here is today's Dispatch article:

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2009/08/12/osu_mbk12.ART_ART_08-12-09_C2_8GEOCQB.html?sid=101

Pretty interesting. Clearly, Xavier had pulled their offer and he didn't want the same thing to happen at OSU.

[ThrowDownDBrown]

I agree. I can't hold any grudge for the kid and I wish him well. It certainly would have been nice to see him playing at Cintas night in and night out. But I hope he does well. I think he'll be better than Sullenger after watching them play in the state tournament to be honest.

Not a chance in hell JD will ever be better then Jared

[Titanxman04]

I think people who don't like Sullinger are influenced by his "fat" body. He doesn't look like an athlete, just a player who is big and soft. But, from what I have seen and read, Sully's legit. And it also seemed that what JD did was basically a result of the doubles that teams put on Sullinger. Many times JD was just standing open near the paint because the attention was focused on his teammate. I would take Sullinger over 'spoon in a heartbeat.

I was at the Final Four this year. Sullenger was tough for everyone guarding him, but he also outweighed everyone down there by at least 40 lbs. Even in the 1st quarter, he was huffing and puffing. And his Dad was not that great of a coach. everything ran through his son. even when they were down in the championship game to Princeton, his father ran the inbound play with 8 seconds left, for his son to bring it up the court and shoot a three as time expired! JD was not a staple-point in the offense. I think JD would actually have flourished in a more TEAM style game, not the "It goes through Sullinger first, and then if he can't score, you clean up the mess" sort of offense.

It's not that I dont' like him because he's big. He's out of shape and I think he's over-hyped because of his father.

Grant it, and I'll be the first to admit it, what I saw was only two games of the whole season. but JD played very well for those two games and did a lot of the little things, while Jared got a LOT of calls against Princeton (NOT a Princeton supporter here. They beat my Toledo St. John's the game before and was still a bit bitter). Again, thats just from what I observed.

[XU99deuce]

He was out of shape during the hs season, but he's lost like 25 lbs over the summer. Sullinger is the real deal fellas.

[Emp]

If Weatherspoon's quotes are correct about Xavier pulling the offer, that seems like a pretty gusty move by Mack.

I had been a Thad fan even after he left. His kids seldom get in trouble off the court, I think he has a great sense of the game.

I am now questioning his recruiting philosophy big time. This smells suspiciously like the Conley and Oden deal, two guys from a state championship caliber team, step in as starters as frosh, one and done anticipation. Except this pair does not look as impressive to me as the Conley-Oden pair, and it could spell trouble for Thad.

Another biproduct seems to be declining attendance at OSU games. I live in Columbus now. Last season last three games at least they were giving away tickets at greatly reduced prices to fill a lot of empty seats. Not for OOC, for Big10 games. My theory: No continuity, no fan loyalty. Getting the local pair may (temporarily) bring more local fans to the games, but not build any long term fan support if they leave after a year.

[Xman95]

This smells suspiciously like the Conley and Oden deal, two guys from a state championship caliber team, step in as starters as frosh, one and done anticipation.

Why does this smell suspiciously like the Conley/Oden situation??? Two guys that played for a state champ and will attend OSU. That's where the comparison ends.

Sullinger was already committed to OSU before they even offered JD. It wasn't like it had to be a package deal or Sullinger wasn't going. Matta offered JD after his impressive state tournament and after he started to get quite a bit of hype. Again, this was all after Sullinger committed. In fact, JD would be heading to X if Miller didn't leave, with Sully still at OSU.

So, other than the fact that two guys off a state champ are winding up on at the same college, why is this like Oden/Conley? I think you're really reaching on this one.

[Xman95]

By the way, I love how the Dispatch article claims that JD said he chose OSU over Xavier. Um, no he didn't. JD actually said that another school signed a player and pulled its offer. So, in truth, Xavier chose Canty over Weatherspoon.

[OSUMuskie]

Another biproduct seems to be declining attendance at OSU games. I live in Columbus now. Last season last three games at least they were giving away tickets at greatly reduced prices to fill a lot of empty seats. Not for OOC, for Big10 games. My theory: No continuity, no fan loyalty. Getting the local pair may (temporarily) bring more local fans to the games, but not build any long term fan support if they leave after a year.

Couldn't agree with you more, Emperor. Being a student there I've had the chance to get season tickets the past two seasons, and with the exception of a few non-conference games and high-profile Big Ten games, I have not been impressed. You can point to a number of reasons, but what it comes down to is basketball will always be a second-rate sport in a football-obsessed school. The Schottenstein Center is not a basketball arena, and the environment is bland at best most of the time. The fans and students don't show the same passion for the game as they do football or as X fans do basketball.

It will be great to watch this Ohio State team in the next couple of years, especially when that stacked 2010 class comes in, but if history has proven anything, there has never been any long-term support shown for this team. None of O'Brien's teams of the 90s helped that, The Thad Five didn't help that, and I can't see that changing in the near future.

Once 'Spoon gets his chance he'll be fun to watch, but he's gonna be overwhelmed by the plethora of talent they have. It'll be a shame not seeing him in the blue and white.

[AdamtheFlyer]

By the way, I love how the Dispatch article claims that JD said he chose OSU over Xavier. Um, no he didn't. JD actually said that another school signed a player and pulled its offer. So, in truth, Xavier chose Canty over Weatherspoon.

Well, don't take the fact that an offer was still out there as proof that Weatherspoon was still seriously considering Xavier or didn't have any other options. In no way does it mean that. His comment could have been "Xavier has always wanted me and now they call to say their offer no longer stands, I better commit to my top school (OSU) because they could do the same." He could have chosen OSU over Xavier weeks ago, and just wasn't ready to make an official verbal until yesterday.

In the end I'm not sure it matters, because I think Canty is essentially Weatherspoon minus 5 inches of vertical leap.

[GoMuskies]

What was wrong with the Oden/Conley deal anyway? Are we morally opposed to national title game appearances?

[GoMuskies]

Well, don't take the fact that an offer was still out there as proof that Weatherspoon was still seriously considering Xavier or didn't have any other options. In no way does it mean that. His comment could have been "Xavier has always wanted me and now they call to say their offer no longer stands, I better commit to my top school (OSU) because they could do the same." He could have chosen OSU over Xavier weeks ago, and just wasn't ready to make an official verbal until yesterday.


You are an incredible tool.

[bobbiemcgee]

Sounds like X and Mack stuck the fork in Spoon. If he really wanted to come to X, he had his chance. Have to go with Kelsey on this one.

[bobbiemcgee]

Originally Posted by therick44
Canty looked awesome today with the absence of his best teammate Reggie Bullock (UNC commit). He actually looked to score a lot more and did so successfully. He made two long three's and had some other mid range jumpers to mix it up with his usual aggressive drives. He also had two sweet tip dunks and on the one he literally had his bicep at rim level when he caught the ball... Unreal.

Vertical leap doesn't seem to be a problem for this kid.

[Xman95]

Well, don't take the fact that an offer was still out there as proof that Weatherspoon was still seriously considering Xavier or didn't have any other options. In no way does it mean that. His comment could have been "Xavier has always wanted me and now they call to say their offer no longer stands, I better commit to my top school (OSU) because they could do the same." He could have chosen OSU over Xavier weeks ago, and just wasn't ready to make an official verbal until yesterday.

In the end I'm not sure it matters, because I think Canty is essentially Weatherspoon minus 5 inches of vertical leap.

They really aren't bright in Dayton, are they? Look, JD had two schools he was seriously considering, X and OSU. He didn't commit to OSU while the X offer was on the table. If he knew for sure it was OSU, he would have given the verbal. Then, after Xavier got Canty, they pulled the offer to 'spoon. That left him with his other top choice and he committed to OSU. Seems like he didn't pick one over the other, but that X went with Canty over JD and left him with one choice.

Wait, I know, Dayton was an unknown in this whole thing and was actually his 1A after OSU. But 'spoon figured he wouldn't look good in traffic cone orange so he decided to stick with OSU.

[XU99deuce]

They really aren't bright in Dayton, are they? Look, JD had two schools he was seriously considering, X and OSU. He didn't commit to OSU while the X offer was on the table. If he knew for sure it was OSU, he would have given the verbal. Then, after Xavier got Canty, they pulled the offer to 'spoon. That left him with his other top choice and he committed to OSU. Seems like he didn't pick one over the other, but that X went with Canty over JD and left him with one choice.

Wait, I know, Dayton was an unknown in this whole thing and was actually his 1A after OSU. But 'spoon figured he wouldn't look good in traffic cone orange so he decided to stick with OSU.

Getting Canty had nothing to do with removing the offer from JD. I know that's what the article says, and that may even be what Mack told JD...but that isn't the reason.

[AdamtheFlyer]

They really aren't bright in Dayton, are they? Look, JD had two schools he was seriously considering, X and OSU. He didn't commit to OSU while the X offer was on the table. If he knew for sure it was OSU, he would have given the verbal. Then, after Xavier got Canty, they pulled the offer to 'spoon. That left him with his other top choice and he committed to OSU. Seems like he didn't pick one over the other, but that X went with Canty over JD and left him with one choice.

Wait, I know, Dayton was an unknown in this whole thing and was actually his 1A after OSU. But 'spoon figured he wouldn't look good in traffic cone orange so he decided to stick with OSU.

He was waiting to see if more offers came his way. He was 99% sure he was going with OSU, but he wasn't ready to make the phone call. He was still hearing things from other schools. But when Xavier pulled the offer I think the fact that OSU could possibly do the same gave him a scare, especially after having a terrible July on the court.

Xavier was out the day Miller left. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. So in that sense, yeah, he chose OSU over X. Was with one, left, went with the other. OSU over X. They were the only two schools to recruit him seriously going back two years. It's not even a big deal, happens several times a year in hoops, so I don't get why you're so combative.