J.D. Weatherspoon (Verbal Other)

[bobbiemcgee]

He was waiting to see if more offers came his way. He was 99% sure he was going with OSU, but he wasn't ready to make the phone call. He was still hearing things from other schools. But when Xavier pulled the offer I think the fact that OSU could possibly do the same gave him a scare, especially after having a terrible July on the court.

Xavier was out the day Miller left. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. So in that sense, yeah, he chose OSU over X. Was with one, left, went with the other. OSU over X. They were the only two schools to recruit him seriously going back two years. It's not even a big deal, happens several times a year in hoops, so I don't get why you're so combative.

OSU only had 1 ship left but apparently he wasn't worried they would give it to somebody else cuz he still had the XU deal as a backup. Beaknose probably not that happy to get the call after XU put the fork in Spoon.

[MFurey]

How do you know Adam? Are you friends with him? Or are you in his inner circle?
From what I read on Snows board the last few months it was 50/50 but changing daily.

Seems logical to me, XU wanted him bad but he didnt have the best July so when they got Canty they realized they needed a more perimeter forward. Jones, Griff, and Martin all fit that mold, they did not need another athletic wing/PF.

[X Factor]

Xavier was out the day Miller left. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

How in the heck can you make such a stupid comment?

Why did JD continue to visit X after Miller left?

Seriously, I know you think you always know what you're talking about, but you don't, especially on this one.

[xsteve1]

Adam, you're way off on this one per usual. Shouldn't you be worried about Chris Wright and his ability to make a jump shot.

[AdamtheFlyer]

How do you know Adam? Are you friends with him? Or are you in his inner circle?
From what I read on Snows board the last few months it was 50/50 but changing daily.

I know someone that is close to All-Ohio, yes. He's a coach around Columbus. He posts over at Yappi (for those that may do the same, you might know who I'm talking about). The sense I got talking to him was that JD verballed to X because he loved Miller and OSU never offered. Ohio State was always his dream school, always going to be the place he chose if a spot was available.

Flash forward to the spring and the Nose was working the back channels with Spoon, Craft and Staten. When Miller left, that gave Spoon all the reason in the world to open things back up. There were some (my guy didn't agree) that thought Spoon may have decommited even if Miller were still there. With Miller gone Spoon was gone. Even though he still talked and visited X, no one really believed he would re-commit. Despite hearing from Ok St and several Big Ten schools, everyone was under the impression that it was only a matter of time before he verbaled to OSU. That's where he always wanted to be, but for some reason he wanted to play the field a bit more.

Mack officially moving on was likely just the final kick in the pants. A wake up call that offers aren't binding and can be taken away. I don't think most kids fully realize that until it happens.

[dc_x]

I know someone that is close to All-Ohio, yes. He's a coach around Columbus. He posts over at Yappi (for those that may do the same, you might know who I'm talking about). The sense I got talking to him was that JD verballed to X because he loved Miller and OSU never offered. Ohio State was always his dream school, always going to be the place he chose if a spot was available.

Flash forward to the spring and the Nose was working the back channels with Spoon, Craft and Staten. When Miller left, that gave Spoon all the reason in the world to open things back up. There were some (my guy didn't agree) that thought Spoon may have decommited even if Miller were still there. With Miller gone Spoon was gone. Even though he still talked and visited X, no one really believed he would re-commit. Despite hearing from Ok St and several Big Ten schools, everyone was under the impression that it was only a matter of time before he verbaled to OSU. That's where he always wanted to be, but for some reason he wanted to play the field a bit more.

Mack officially moving on was likely just the final kick in the pants. A wake up call that offers aren't binding and can be taken away. I don't think most kids fully realize that until it happens.

So should I believe Brian Snow who runs a Rivals site or some guy who goes by a fake internet name who "knows a guy" who "is close to All-Ohio" who basically speculated about what was going on? Hmmm....

[AdamtheFlyer]

So should I believe Brian Snow who runs a Rivals site or some guy who goes by a fake internet name who "knows a guy" who "is close to All-Ohio" who basically speculated about what was going on? Hmmm....

You can believe who you want to believe. I don't care.

But I don't go by a fake name. Well, at least the first four letters.

[Raoul Duke]

By the way, I love how the Dispatch article claims that JD said he chose OSU over Xavier. Um, no he didn't. JD actually said that another school signed a player and pulled its offer. So, in truth, Xavier chose Canty over Weatherspoon.

This is basically the basketball equivalent of 'she didn't dump me - I dumped her.'




In the end I'm not sure it matters, because I think Canty is essentially Weatherspoon minus 5 inches of vertical leap.


It's not even a big deal, happens several times a year in hoops...

Afraid I gotta agree with Adam here. You guys pick some of the dumbest shit to argue and nitpick over.

[Xman95]

it was only a matter of time before he verbaled to OSU. That's where he always wanted to be.

I'm not saying he wouldn't have landed at OSU eventually, but he didn't pick OSU over Xavier. He was left without that choice because Xavier pulled their offer when they got the verbal from Canty.

Also, if OSU is where he always wanted to be and he had the offer, why wouldn't he just take it? You claim he was waiting to see what other offers were out there. Why? OSU was supposedly his dream and nobody was going to beat them out, so why worry about whether he would get a few more offers? Your "facts" aren't adding up.

Again, the word all along was that he had X and OSU as his top two, with the Buckeyes a slight favorite. Xavier pulled their offer, leaving JD with OSU. So it seems like X chose OSU for him.

[Xman95]

You guys pick some of the dumbest shit to argue and nitpick over.

Yet you decided to get involved in the discussion. Hmmm...

[MFurey]

I know someone that is close to All-Ohio, yes. He's a coach around Columbus. He posts over at Yappi (for those that may do the same, you might know who I'm talking about). The sense I got talking to him was that JD verballed to X because he loved Miller and OSU never offered. Ohio State was always his dream school, always going to be the place he chose if a spot was available.

Flash forward to the spring and the Nose was working the back channels with Spoon, Craft and Staten. When Miller left, that gave Spoon all the reason in the world to open things back up. There were some (my guy didn't agree) that thought Spoon may have decommited even if Miller were still there. With Miller gone Spoon was gone. Even though he still talked and visited X, no one really believed he would re-commit. Despite hearing from Ok St and several Big Ten schools, everyone was under the impression that it was only a matter of time before he verbaled to OSU. That's where he always wanted to be, but for some reason he wanted to play the field a bit more.

Mack officially moving on was likely just the final kick in the pants. A wake up call that offers aren't binding and can be taken away. I don't think most kids fully realize that until it happens.

Fair enough. From the sources I relied on OSU was indeed his dream school and was ready to commit to them back in or around June. He came down to XU's elite camp and had a strong bond with many of the players and had 2nd thoughts. Its hard to spurn the hometown school that runs the city and I never thought he would re-commit. Honestly, I am sure he is a good player (never seen him live) but XU needs someone that can score from all areas of the floor, not another athletic guy that needs time to develop. He could be the next Derrick Brown but I think he might have trouble getting PT right off the bat @ OSU.

[DC Muskie]

I'm going to enjoy watching Spoon play when I can. His recruitment was pretty fun to follow.

[Muskie1995]

I know someone that is close to All-Ohio, yes. He's a coach around Columbus. He posts over at Yappi (for those that may do the same, you might know who I'm talking about). The sense I got talking to him was that JD verballed to X because he loved Miller and OSU never offered. Ohio State was always his dream school, always going to be the place he chose if a spot was available.

Flash forward to the spring and the Nose was working the back channels with Spoon, Craft and Staten. When Miller left, that gave Spoon all the reason in the world to open things back up. There were some (my guy didn't agree) that thought Spoon may have decommited even if Miller were still there. With Miller gone Spoon was gone. Even though he still talked and visited X, no one really believed he would re-commit. Despite hearing from Ok St and several Big Ten schools, everyone was under the impression that it was only a matter of time before he verbaled to OSU. That's where he always wanted to be, but for some reason he wanted to play the field a bit more.

Adam your story dosn't quite add up. You may want to ask your "source" for more credible details.

http://bucknuts.com/index.php/Basketball-Recruiting-Article/bucknuts-tv-air-spoon-lands-at-osu/menu-id-1346.html


When asked why the decisions came when it did, he added, “I felt comfortable. It was really between two schools – Ohio State and Xavier – and I really wasn’t going to go far from home. Kids always say they want to get away from their family, but it’s hard not to have a home-cooked meal from your mom. Believe it or not, my dad can cook, too.”

Clearly, though, Weatherspoon was nudged when Xavier accepted a verbal from 6-5 wing Jay Canty of North Carolina on Sunday night. In fact, a source close to the situation told Bucknuts.com that new Musketeers coach Chris Mack basically dropped his pursuit of Weatherspoon when Canty came on board.

When asked if the Canty development may have prodded the move to tab Ohio State, J.D. said, “It kind of did because me and him kind of play the same position. So I had to think to myself, ‘Why not go to Ohio State. They’re right around the corner.’ ”

[Raoul Duke]

Yet you decided to get involved in the discussion. Hmmm...

I got involved in the discussion to tell you that you pick some dumb shit to nitpick about. 'She didn't dump me - I dumped her.'

[MuskieCinci]

If OSU was always his dream school I don't understand why he committed to Xavier so early in the process and bought so much Xavier gear and was basically in love with Xavier for so long. Why not hold out for as long as possible for the OSU offer? It isn't like he committed to Xavier with no time to spare, he committed very early on in the process with plenty of time left for an offer from his dream school.

[West is Best]

If OSU was always his dream school I don't understand why he committed to Xavier so early in the process and bought so much Xavier gear and was basically in love with Xavier for so long. Why not hold out for as long as possible for the OSU offer? It isn't like he committed to Xavier with no time to spare, he committed very early on in the process with plenty of time left for an offer from his dream school.

I always assumed that he got the gear at a Xavier camp or something. Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

When JD committed to XU he knew that OSU would not offer him until at least the following spring. At that point OSU was still considered one of the likely destinations for Adrien Payne and because of that OSU wasn't going to commit their last scholarship to JD.

For the for last 6-8 weeks, I've pretty much assumed that Spoon would be a buckeye. He's a better fit for OSU: we don't have six scholarships in 2010, we can't afford to take a pure project that didn't show any improvement in July. Somebody had to step in and end the recruitment.

[Muskie1995]

He's a better fit for OSU: we don't have six scholarships in 2010.

Niether does OSU. Matta's banking on Evan Turner going pro at the end of the season. God forbid Turner gets hurt otherwise someone most likely JD is the odd man out.

[boozehound]

How do you know Adam? Are you friends with him? Or are you in his inner circle?
From what I read on Snows board the last few months it was 50/50 but changing daily.

Seems logical to me, XU wanted him bad but he didnt have the best July so when they got Canty they realized they needed a more perimeter forward. Jones, Griff, and Martin all fit that mold, they did not need another athletic wing/PF.

Adam hangs out with a lot of high school kids.

[Lamont Sanford]

In case folks were wondering what the status was on former recruit JD Weatherspoon...he was declared academically ineligible for the rest of the season at Ohio State recently. When he was eligible early in the season, he saw minimal minutes in blowouts and never factored into Matta's regular rotation.

[bobbiemcgee]

In case folks were wondering what the status was on former recruit JD Weatherspoon...he was declared academically ineligible for the rest of the season at Ohio State recently. When he was eligible early in the season, he saw minimal minutes in blowouts and never factored into Matta's regular rotation.

That was an odd turn of events when Canty/Witherspoon committed within days (hours?) of each other. My guess is the XU coaching staff decided Canty would fit better and then Witherspoon committed to OSU who seemed to be a little shocked but took him. He would probably be playing for X by now. Never underestimate the power of a Sr. Rose. To me this is a huge thing for the parents of aspiring recruits. Small school where you can get help and are therefore expected to succeed vs. Large School where nobody really gives a poop.

[Xman95]

He would probably be playing for X by now.

He might be eligible, but I'm not sure he would be playing. At least not any significant minutes. I was initially impressed by Weatherspoons athletic ability. But, after watching him play, he seemed to be a jumper/dunker that lived off of Sullinger. The big man would draw doubles and J.D. would be left in open space for easy dunks. His game expanded a little bit, but not enough for me to think he would be a factor at X right now. In fact, I don't think he would have been a legit contributor until maybe his junior year. (Of course he would have at least been eligible with Sr. Rose hounding him all the time!)

[bobbiemcgee]

Didn't say he would have been a factor, but he would get some minutes for sure.

[Xman95]

Didn't say he would have been a factor, but he would get some minutes for sure.

Hell, as thin as they are right now, we might get some minutes!

[JAX 3758]

Hell, as thin as they are right now, we might get some minutes!

I would definitely get minutes

[vee4xu]

I don't even see his name on the roster. He was on it early and even played some. Anyone know what happened to him? Heck, I live here and haven't heard anything. Kid would have been better off at X.

[xsteve1]

I don't even see his name on the roster. He was on it early and even played some. Anyone know what happened to him? Heck, I live here and haven't heard anything. Kid would have been better off at X.

Academically ineligible.

[XUmuskie33]

I don't even see his name on the roster. He was on it early and even played some. Anyone know what happened to him? Heck, I live here and haven't heard anything. Kid would have been better off at X.

I believe he was ruled academically ineligible right before Christmas.

[vee4xu]

Thanks, Steve and 33.

[Masterofreality]

Now heading to Toledo.

[DC Muskie]

Now heading to Toledo.

Awesome. Toledo!

[GoMuskies]

Not being from Ohio, Toledo, Akron and Kent are all the same place in my mind.

[Xman95]

Now heading to Toledo.

You or 'spoon?

[Masterofreality]

You or 'spoon?

As Bob Dylan sang.....

"It ain't me, babe"

[Dr. X]

Now heading to Toledo.

My God, I actually have a reason to go to UT games now?

[bobbiemcgee]

Now heading to Toledo.

I was once corporately imprisoned there for 4 + yrs. Finally figured out they didn't like me, so got somebody else to move me to Fla. in the dead of winter. Salvation.