Kevin Parrom (Offer)

[Muskie]

Position: SF
High School: St. Raymond's High School
Home Town: Bronx, NY
Number: TBD
Height: 6'6
Weight: 185

Offers:
Xavier, Rutgers, Pittsburgh, Rhode Island, St. John's

Others Interested:
Marquette, Seton Hall, West Virginia

[Muskie]

Parrom may have hurt his chances with X. He apparently punched his coach.

Link (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high_school/2008/05/13/2008-05-13_st_rays_parrom__coach_in_altercation.html)

[boozehound]

Classy guy there.

[Muskie]

Nothing says I'm a personable guy, like punching someone.

[PM Thor]

If he was on my personal board, he would be off the board. Yeah. That makes sense.

[Nocalmuskie]

Pitt was a leading contender for Kevin Parrom -- who is on campus this weekend. Consider, however, that the Pitt assistant recruiting Parrom is leaving the university for Memphis. Could this give the Muskies a leg up?

[Titanxman04]

It could... But I say that we're in pretty good hands with Sean Miller right now. The way I see it, he's beaten out other schools for some pretty good recruits, and I don't see Pitt on a completely different level when compared to them.

On another note, can someone tell me a little something about this kid?

[kyxu]

Kevin Parrom
6'6
185 lbs
from Bronx, NY
Small Forward
3-star on rivals, ranked #141 on Rivals150

[xufan02]

I would say he is Justin Cage with a better jump shot from all the things I have read.

[Titanxman04]

Thanks for the info! Sounds like a solid player from that.

[GuyFawkes38]

Hmmmm, so he's from the Bronx.

My guess is that Fordham at least gave some exposure of X to him.

The A10 should NOT drop Fordham.

[kyxu]

Hmmmm, so he's from the Bronx.

My guess is that Fordham at least gave some exposure of X to him.


No, Book Richardson

[Muskie]

It could... But I say that we're in pretty good hands with Sean Miller right now. The way I see it, he's beaten out other schools for some pretty good recruits, and I don't see Pitt on a completely different level when compared to them.

On another note, can someone tell me a little something about this kid?


http://www.xavierhoops.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4382. Information a plenty in the recruiting section of the board.

[Muskie]

Parrom is on campus this weekend. I'm still not sure how this whole punching thing sits with me. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the "the coach is a difficult coach line of defense" coming out of the Bronx. I've had some hard ass mentors and bosses... and I've never decked any of them.

Then again, maybe i'm being too quick to judge. I after all, wasn't there.

[kyxu]

All that I've read regarding the incident with Parrom is that his actions were very uncharacteristic, and that the coach actually grabbed Kevin forcefully, provoking him to retaliate. In addition, this wasn't the coach's first such incident with a player, and that most people have sided with Parrom on the matter.

My initial reaction was very similar: to drop the kid and pull the offer. But thinking a little further, Parrom had no history of any violence with any other players or coaches, but the coach did. We all like to cite a-hole bosses or coaches we may have had and the fact that we've never hit any of them despite the circumstances. But I don't think the environments in which we grew up are comparable to Kevin's. Miller knows more about that incident than any of us, and it doesn't seem to have affected Xavier's recruitment of Parrom.

[X Factor]

I hope Kevin is having a good visit this weekend. From everything I've read, he sounds like a very good prospect at the SF position. He's got good size and is pretty athletic with nice touch from outside.

I would love to get Ari Stewart and Kevin Parrom, Tevin Baskin, or Terrance Shannon.

Omari Lawrence would also be a huge pick up, but he's more of a SG.

I trust Sean and his continued recruitment of Parrom.

[GoMuskies]

Hmmmm, so he's from the Bronx.

My guess is that Fordham at least gave some exposure of X to him.

The A10 should NOT drop Fordham.

I wonder how Darnell Williams managed to find Xavier?

[cinskyline]

I wonder how Darnell Williams managed to find Xavier?

I think we can thank Skip Prosser for that one.

[XU 87]

I wonder how Darnell Williams managed to find Xavier?

The same could be said about Vic Fleming, Jeff Jenkins, Richie Harris, Jamall Walker and the several other NYC area players who have come to X in the last 25 years.

So put me in the group that thinks Fordham has nothing to do with a NYC recruit coming to Xavier.

[waggy]

Come to Xavier...

[Runningman]

The same could be said about Vic Fleming, Jeff Jenkins, Richie Harris, Jamall Walker and the several other NYC area players who have come to X in the last 25 years.

So put me in the group that thinks Fordham has nothing to do with a NYC recruit coming to Xavier.

Hmm....I could be wrong but I think GuyFawkes' Fordham remark may be a tad bit facetious. In that case, I completely agree. Fordham should be kept on board even if their only purpose is to expose 3 star recruits to XU.

[MADXSTER]

Hmm....I could be wrong but I think GuyFawkes' Fordham remark may be a tad bit facetious.

Hmm....When has GuyF ever been facetious in his posts?

[GoMuskies]

Come to Xavier...


...but don't punch any of our coaches

[Miller'sTale]

I saw what I can only imagine was Kevin on Saturday night. I was on campus for a graduation and saw Sean, Derrick, BJ and a few other guys giving the kid a tour of Cintas. It looked like they were just getting started (As they came in the side door I heard Sean say this is the entrance all of the guys use for practices, etc). I found that odd because it was just about 10pm by this point. Anyway...looked a little lean, but what high schooler doesn't. Good height.

I asked him if he could jump off one foot and he punched me.

I'd post a picture of the black eye, but I need Dustin Dow to show me how to upload a picture of injuries.

[xudash]

The same could be said about Vic Fleming, Jeff Jenkins, Richie Harris, Jamall Walker and the several other NYC area players who have come to X in the last 25 years.

So put me in the group that thinks Fordham has nothing to do with a NYC recruit coming to Xavier.

I wonder if Pete Gillen had anything to do with it? Just spit-balling here.

Perhaps Pete used Fordham's chapel to say a prayer prior to some of his recruiting visits out there.

[waggy]

The Rumble in the Bronx is at Fordham.

[boozehound]

Pitt was a leading contender for Kevin Parrom -- who is on campus this weekend. Consider, however, that the Pitt assistant recruiting Parrom is leaving the university for Memphis. Could this give the Muskies a leg up?

Didn't this kid punch his coach or something like that?

[MADXSTER]

Didn't this kid punch his coach or something like that?

He's misunderstood. Kinda like Guyfawkes.

[Arnold Horshack]

Didn't this kid punch his coach or something like that?

I'm not liking that one bit.

[wkrq59]

I think we can thank Skip Prosser for that one.

and for a lot of other things

[X Factor]

What kind of position are we in with Parrom? Obviously, we're in pretty good position it seems, but are we at the top of his list? Is there an excellent chance he commits? 50/50?

We got spoiled last year with all the early commitments.

I would absolutely love to see Ari Stewart and either Parrom, Lawrence, Baskin, Shannon, or maybe even Glen Bryant make up the '09 class. Any two of thsee kids would be very nice and would definitely fill the SF hole that will be there after next year.

Parrom sounds like he is making big strides in his game. He really made a big jump up in the rankings this last time and he seems to be getting better all the time.

[tmac03]

Figured I would post this here rather than the "recruit on campus" thread and risk getting embroiled in the Fordham pissing match by posting something relevant. Does anyone know how Parrom's visit went?

[xu95]

What kind of position are we in with Parrom? Obviously, we're in pretty good position it seems, but are we at the top of his list? Is there an excellent chance he commits? 50/50?

We got spoiled last year with all the early commitments.

I would absolutely love to see Ari Stewart and either Parrom, Lawrence, Baskin, Shannon, or maybe even Glen Bryant make up the '09 class. Any two of thsee kids would be very nice and would definitely fill the SF hole that will be there after next year.

Parrom sounds like he is making big strides in his game. He really made a big jump up in the rankings this last time and he seems to be getting better all the time.

The rumor was he might commit while on the visit. Obviously he didn't, but we are very, very high on his list.

xu95

[X Factor]

This is the worst thread ever.

[BlueX]

http://njmg.typepad.com/zagsblog/2008/06/kevin-book-kenn.html

Parrom Enjoyed Xavier Visit

[Muskie]

So... I've done a little editing... not editing... think of it as housecleaning really. There was a perfectly good post about "Who Should Go", where all of this would have been relevant. Since the Fordham fiasco doesn't really relate to Mr. Parrom, you'll find the posts now located over in that thread.

Did anyone see Parrom on campus besides the one poster?

[MADXSTER]

Very nice article. Thanks Blue X

[XU 87]

http://njmg.typepad.com/zagsblog/2008/06/kevin-book-kenn.html

Parrom Enjoyed Xavier Visit

My recruiting bible, Rivals, has a similar article.

[MADXSTER]

http://blog.zagsblog.net/2008/06/19/xavier-working-hard-on-parrom.aspx

Nice article.

[Muskie]

Marquette seems to be really interested in him as well.

[X Factor]

I would be very surprised if Parrom ended up at Marquette. They have already received committments from two 4* small forwards in the class of '09, and both area about the same size as Parrom.

It sounds like Parrom has a ton of potential and he would be a very nice player for Xavier.

[Muskie]

But Don't Commit (http://www.zagsblog.net/2008/06/28/catholic-league-exodus/#more-285)


“They liked the visit but not enough to make a commitment,” Charles said. “They still want to see some other places. They’re scheduled to take an unofficial next week to Virginia for their Elite Camp. They will also visit camps at UConn and Louisville this August.
Charles said Parrom was close to committing to Xavier, “but his father said, ‘We should allow other teams an opportunity also.’”

[Johnny X]

Thanks for posting that!

Brian Snow said something along the lines of Parrom's visit to Marquette being pretty good, but not as good as his Xavier visit. I personally think Kevin will be a Musketeer. It's just a question of when.

[Muskie]

If i'm reading the "wiki" over at MUscoop right (Marquette board). It appears they just hauled in a 7 footer and will now turn their attention to a PG. Looks like Lawrence Parrom are off their board?

[Johnny X]

That may be. Marquette also already has two 6'6 players in their '09 class, so Parrom might not fill a need for MU presently.

[X Factor]

Rivals just updated their Class of 2009 Top 150 today and Kevin Parrom is now a 4* guy, ranked #88 overall.

Would love to get Kevin and Ari Stewart for '09.

[xuphan]

http://theeastcoastbias.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/update-on-kevin-parrom/

Video of Kevin Parrom in action

[Muskie]

Link Here (http://www.prepchamps.com/all_American_Camp)

Kevin Parrom and Omari Lawrence are invited as i quickly glanced through the list. I'm sure there were more X targets.

[MADXSTER]

Interesting info on Parrom

http://www.zagsblog.net/2008/07/13/parrom-ready-to-start-over/#more-344

[xufan02]

I would be very suprised if either Omari or Kevin ended up at Xavier. They are both Big East bound if I had to guess.

[MADXSTER]

Another article on Parrom from Zagsblog

Next on Parrom’s agenda is an unofficial to St. John’s.

“I’m taking an unofficial visit to St. John’s Aug. 11,” he said. “I’ve been there before for tournaments and practices, so I’m looking forward to that.”

Lawrence previously told ZAGSBLOG that St. John’s was his top choice, raising the possibility that the teammates could both end up playing for Norm Roberts.

“We haven’t really talked it about yet, but if it’s’ a good fit I might go there,” Parrom said.



http://www.zagsblog.net/2008/08/05/parrom-has-top-five/#more-1444

[waggy]

USC recruiter Michael Boynton continues to work his hometown of New York City

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20080731/PSPORTS02/412682363/1018/sports&title=NY_Guard_Targeted_By_USC

[xufan02]

Parrom is going to have his final 5 in the next week. Expect the list of St. John's, Uconn, Xavier, South Carolina, and Clemson. USC is to late in the game.

[MADXSTER]

Sounds like he's more confused than ever.

http://www.zagsblog.net/2008/08/17/parrom-considering-south-carolina/#more-2125

Parrom had previously said his top five were St. John’s, Marquette, Xavier, Rutgers and South Carolina, but now he is also considering UConn, Louisville, Temple, Virginia, Virginia Tech and Providence.

“I’ve tried cutting the list down but schools keep contacting me and offering me, so that makes it hard,” Parrom told PalmettoSports.

[MADXSTER]

http://www.zagsblog.net/2008/08/20/lawrence-to-st-johns/#more-2339

With Lawrence now committed to St. John’s, will Parrom follow?

“Kevin is day-to-day,” Jefferson said. “St John’s is on his list and he likes them a lot. But he likes Xavier and South Carolina and I’m not sure what his timetable is right now. I told him to take his time and make a good decison.”

Added Lawrence: “I’m just worried about myself right now. If Kevin wants to come to the school, I’d be happy to have him. That’s his decision.

“I’m not really a recruiter. I’m a basketball player.”

St. John’s has one scholarship remaining (possibly two) and is involved with Parrom, 6-7 Tevin Baskin of Trinity Catholic, 6-9 Jordan Williams of Torrington (Conn.) and 6-5 Lance Stephenson of Brooklyn Lincoln.

[waggy]

Came across this old article in the NY Daily News. Nothing to do with KP, but it does have to do with the Red Storm and all of the player turnover they've had. Even the HC is quoted as saying it's a complete rebuilding job. And it's a loooong climb to the top in a 16 team conference.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/2008/04/21/2008-04-21_guard_larry_wright_leaving_red_storm.html

[waggy]

Hey the Big East is a great conference if you're at the top, but the Johnnies, well they can't even see the top. There was a bunch of noise near the end of last season whether Roberts was even going to be coach anymore. Here is one by Dick Weiss..

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/2008/02/03/2008-02-03_under_norm_roberts_st_johns_continues_do.html

[waggy]

Other X recruiting talk in addition to K Parrom..

The recruiting battle for South Kent’s Kevin Parrom is heating up.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/weiss/2008/08/lincolns-stephenson-battling-a.html

[waggy]

And this from 'Hoops' blog on Friday..

Still, the Johnnies have plenty of work to do on this one. Xavier, South Carolina, Pitt, Temple, Marquette and UConn are all involved. Parrom said he was hoping to take three visits next month, but St. John’s wasn’t on that list.

“I haven’t planned them yet, but most likely I’ll be taking a visit to UConn and Xavier and South Carolina,” he said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/weiss/2008/08/islands-top-player-pondering-t.html

[MADXSTER]

Good finds waggy.

In the one long article, this guy wrote more about Xavier than either of the local schools.

Excellent pub.

Thanks

[xufan02]

Our #1 and #1b targets for 2009 are both visiting this coming weekend. I hope that at least one is a Musketeer by this time next Monday.

http://www.zagsblog.net/

Look midway down the blog, it was posted on Friday.

[PMI]

That would be a major relief to land one of these guys soon. I have no idea where X realistically stands with these two, but if we could get both, we could be looking at some very strong teams between 2010 and 2013 or so.

Ari Stewart can have his ugly colors and hot chicks. Kevin "The Punch" Parrom and Chris "Too Smart for DeMatha" Braswell are my guys!

[MADXSTER]

I can see it going something like this....

King Kev, meet the Beast from the East......Beast...King Kev.

Now the two of you can play against each other, or.....strike an accord and demolish opponents together on your way to a final four. What say you?

[xufan02]

IU has used up all 5 of their scholarships for next season, and have also signed two PF for the 2009 class. They are rumored to be signing one over, which is commonplace in the Big Ten. I doubt Braswell will even take his scheduled visit to IU. Hope we put ourselves in good position this weekend, and lock up Parrom.

[X-man]

Between Dustin Dow's comments on his Enquirer blog and xu95's comments on this messageboard, I feel cautiously optimistic that the Muskies will get at least one commitment following this weekend's visits. Both recruits appear to be a good fit for Xavier's 2009 needs, and both appear very interested in Xavier.

[xu95]

If someone commits this weekend it will be Parrom. Braswell will take one more visit to Charlotte, but he will probably pull the trigger very soon after that.

xu95

[X-man]

xu95, Braswell's Charlotte visit is not scheduled until mid-October. Do you think he might move that visit up a bit, or will Xavier have to sit and wait a month?

[MHettel]

I want Parrom and Braswell this Sunday. Commit fellas.

IF Braswell doesn't end up at XU, then I'd root for Charlotte to get him. A-10 needs all the talent it can get.

[kyxu]

I want Parrom and Braswell this Sunday. Commit fellas.

IF Braswell doesn't end up at XU, then I'd root for Charlotte to get him. A-10 needs all the talent it can get.

I'd be stoked to get Parrom, Braswell or both. But if the best-case scenario happens and we do get both, be prepared for the haters to make a big deal about 1) Parrom punching his coach after being assaulted and 2) Braswell essentially being denied admission to Georgetown after committing (at least I think that's what happened).

But eff the haters. Seriously, eff 'em.

[wkrq59]

KYXU,
Unless they live down to the problems they have had, I see no reason to give a damn. Others have come to Xavier with less than stellar reputations and done very well. I'm thinking of Lenny Brown and a slew of others who were said to be academic or character risks and did just fine.
Besides, I really believe Sean will run a tight enough ship that things will work out, no matter. I doubt Sister Rose Ann would allow too dangerous an academic risk to be offered. :D

[kyxu]

KYXU,
Unless they live down to the problems they have had, I see no reason to give a damn. Others have come to Xavier with less than stellar reputations and done very well. I'm thinking of Lenny Brown and a slew of others who were said to be academic or character risks and did just fine.
Besides, I really believe Sean will run a tight enough ship that things will work out, no matter. I doubt Sister Rose Ann would allow too dangerous an academic risk to be offered. :D

Q, there's no doubt in my mind. Which is why I followed with "eff the haters".

[MADXSTER]

http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/feeds/the-slam-fresh-50-2009

CHN ranked the top 50 2009 prospects. Kevin Parrom came in at #41.


41
Kevin Parrom
6-6
SF/PF
NR
South Kent (CT)
A transfer from New York, Parrom has worked hard to develop a smooth perimeter game to go with his rugged inside skills.
Connecticut, Marquette, Rutgers, St. John's, Xavier

[A10fan]

Nice to see Miller finish the deal. Now we need Braswell for an outstanding weekend!

[dc_x]

Dows Blog (http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog05&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3afdda4dab-ab39-43a7-8ba8-36da2f75a889Post%3aa71ca306-ab89-452b-b4b4-c47407c8aec0&plckCommentSortOrder=TimeStampAscending&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com)

[BBC 08]

Ari who? Good to see us finally get an 09 verbal. Looks like xu95 was right again.

[BBC 08]

Here is the post on zagsblog, link (http://www.zagsblog.net/2008/09/13/kevin-parrom-to-xavier/).

[xuab]

Ho-hum...just another 4-star recruit to go along with the others. (Think what you want about recruiting services, it's nice to see highly rated players choose X over others).
Welcome to X King Kev!

[MADXSTER]

Awesome. I'll have more to say once I finish a couple of 12 ounce celebrations.

[wkrq59]

The things that impress me most about this kid and this recruit is his mention of the degree he "will" get. And look at the schools Xavier beat out for him.
Now, two thinks would make this a great weekend. If the Braswell kid commits and joins him and if the big kid from the Ukraine calls and commits. Question. Can the kid from the Ukraine sign a letter because he's a foreign national??? Just curious.
And with Kevin's commitment how many scholarships does Xavier have left for 09? 1, or 2 depending on whether Brown leaves which I hope he doesn't:D

[wkrq59]

and now Kevin's committed:D

[DoubleD86]

This is a huge get for Xavier, definitely softens the sting of missing out on Ari.

Now the question is how is Braswell's visit going? Any of you with insider info hear anything?

Also, Rivals said Sibert made an unofficial this week, anyone know how that went?

[MADXSTER]

Please update that King Kev has commited to the best school in the land.

[American X]

Welcome to the family, Kevin.

[golfitup]

Sweet! I love the internet.

[West is Best]

If the Braswell kid commits and joins him and if the big kid from the Ukraine calls and commits. Question. Can the kid from the Ukraine sign a letter because he's a foreign national??? Just curious.

He attends school in Florida right now, so I believe its a similar situation to that of Romain Sato.

[PMI]

Awesome news! Posey must have really begged him good this weekend.

Just kidding.

[xufan02]

I tend to think that Chris Braswell is going to take all of his official visits before making a decision. He is not as far along in his recruitment, since he reopened and reclassified. His last visit is at Charlotte Oct 11th, so I would not expect a decision before then.

Kyryl Natyazhko is probably going to be a late signee, so he will probably be on campus during the season if we miss out on Braswell. Kyryl Natyazhko advisors are steering him towards Xavier, Baylor, and Miami (FL).

I'm loving the Parrom commit. We are loaded on the wing.

[PM Thor]

Kevin Parrom has given his commitment to Xavier. More news to follow....if people haven't looked at the recruiting forum....

[BBC 08]

Hour and a half late with the thread, Thor, you must be drunk already.

[XUfaninJAX]

This is one of the best things to happen this weekend. Adult beverages are in order... Parrom, Braswell and the Ukranian invasion would be a great class overall. Obviously this is huge that KingKev is coming to X, but now we expect to get 4-star recruits. Sean and the staff have done a great job. KingKev has just made a great team even better.

[xufan02]

We only have two scholarships for the 2009 class. I think the staff plans on Derrick testing the NBA waters or taking the plunge, but they are not going to oversign. Instead they can use it for the 2010 class or on another elite transfer.

[Araceli]

"Xavier wins". Congrats to Keven and to all the Coaches. Final Four coming up very soon.

[PM Thor]

Hour and a half late with the thread, Thor, you must be drunk already.

Nah, I just wanted to put this up in here, so that more people would look over at that forum....

[MuskieDadof4ormore]

I just want to add my congrats to the Xavier coaching staff, the student body, and fans of X.

[xufan02]

Parrom commitment has hit sports illustrated.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/basketball/ncaa/09/13/parrom.xavier/index.html

[X Factor]

Kevin Parrom highlighst from youtube. Kinda reminds me of Justin Cage with a better jump shot. Looks good!!

Kevin Parrom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufenA3buN7s)

[bourbonman]

Nah, I just wanted to put this up in here, so that more people would look over at that forum....

Thanks Thor, but if you want help on the other, let me know.

[GoMuskies]

Good......

[Runningman]

I dig it. The staff must've taken Parrom to Quatman's to seal the deal over a delicious paper plate of burger and fries.

[xu95]

xu95, Braswell's Charlotte visit is not scheduled until mid-October. Do you think he might move that visit up a bit, or will Xavier have to sit and wait a month?

The date for Charlotte is their Midnight Madness. I would be surprised if he moves it up.

xu95

[xu95]

Ari who? Good to see us finally get an 09 verbal. Looks like xu95 was right again.

And I'm not ashamed to ask for rep points either.

xu95

[Ninerballin]

The date for Charlotte is their Midnight Madness. I would be surprised if he moves it up.

xu95

Correct, Chris has already made an unofficial here, so he's seen the campus & facilities.

The main reason he scheded us so late was to get a chance to check us out at MM.

[XU 87]

Q, there's no doubt in my mind. Which is why I followed with "eff the haters".

I think it was Prosser who said, You can't recruit nothing but milk drinkers." The most important issue isn't so much who you recruit (although that's important.) But the main issue is what happens to a kid once he gets to campus.

And I read on the Rivals board that the Braswell recruitment went VERY well. But he has other schools to visit so he wants to look at those before commiting. I can't argue with that reasoning.

[waggy]

Haven't been around much but have to weight in on this one. Woo Hoo!! Congratulations to all involved - coaching staff and Kevin. Welcome aboard Kevin!

[LutherRackleyRulez]

Per SI.com....


Parrom becomes Xavier's first 2009 commitment
By Kevin Armstrong, SI.com

NEW YORK (SI.com) -- Last August, Xavier head coach Sean Miller hired Emanuel "Book" Richardson, a native of Queens and alumnus of traditional power St. Raymond's (Bronx, N.Y.), to his staff, not only for his coaching skills, but also for his contacts in the New York area.

On Saturday, Richardson's relationships continued to pay dividends. Citing Xavier's recent NCAA tournament success and a familiarity with the coaching staff, South Kent (Conn.) forward Kevin Parrom told SI.com that he committed to the Musketeers over St. John's while on an official visit to the Cincinnati campus Saturday.

"There was a level of comfort here that I really felt good about," said Parrom, a 6-foot-6, 200-pound workhorse who Rivals.com ranks as the No. 84 player in the class of 2009.

After playing for St. Raymond's (Bronx, N.Y.) last season, Parrom enrolled at South Kent over the summer, and recently started classes. "I'm settling in and taking care of things for college now," said Parrom.

Miller and his staff cannot comment on recruits until they sign National Letters of Intent, but talent evaluators project Parrom to play a jack-of-all-trades role in college while needing to improve his shooting.

The Musketeers have one scholarship remaining for this class.



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/basketball/ncaa/09/13/parrom.xavier/index.html

[XU '03]

Any idea if Xavier received Kevin Parrom's LOI today?

[kyxu]

I've heard he's going to sign with his teammates at school today, but Miller and staff are fully expecting his letter to arrive today.

[wkrq59]

Are there even religious sisters (nuns) teaching at the school he attends, now? Are there nuns still teaching anywhere on a wide scale?
And when will the well known and (dealt with and explained often and completely on this board) topic of his failing stop being even an allegedly humorous subject for discussion?:(

[A10fan]

And when will the well known and (dealt with and explained often and completely on this board) topic of his failing stop being even an allegedly humorous subject for discussion?:(


When the jealous trolling stops!!

[MADXSTER]

From todays Zagsblog

As for Lawrence’s teammate Kevin Parrom, who is headed to Xavier, Jefferson said he also went home to deal with his signing.

“Kevin has not signed but will sign tomorrow [Thursday] when he gets home with his dad,” Jefferson said.

[Blue Dog]

Any news yet?

[Muskie73]

Does anyone else find the lack of news disconcerting?

[kyxu]

Does anyone else find the lack of news disconcerting?

Because Parrom is not yet an adult, he has to have a parent sign. And because he's from the Bronx but goes to prep school in CT, he didn't get home to have his parents sign until last night, so Xavier probably won't get the LOI until maybe early next week.

Xavier had to wait on Lyons' for a bit, too, considering he went to prep school away from home. This is nothing to sweat.

[Muskie73]

KYXU

Much obliged!

[principal]

Any word on this?

[kyxu]

He signed over a week ago.

[Muskie73]

Why no official word on this?

[kyxu]

Why no official word on this?

I don't know. Probably because Xavier is too busy winning games. But both rivals and scout have shown that he signed his letter of intent.

[jdm2000]

Sean talked about it on the coach's show last night.

[American X]

Kevin Parrom is official:

Sean Miller Announces 2009 Signee

Kevin Parrom from South Kent (Conn.) Prep to Play for XU

Nov. 25, 2008

CINCINNATI - Xavier University head basketball coach Sean Miller announced today that he has received a signed National Letter of Intent from 6-6, 200-pound guard/forward Kevin Parrom from South Kent (Conn.) Prep.

Xavier Release (http://goxavier.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/112508aae.html)

[MADXSTER]

http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/recruiting/rsci2008.htm

Kevin composite ranking is 81. His range was from 64 to 89.

What is the RSCI? The recruiting services consensus index, composed by Jeff Crume, averages out the rankings of top national recruiting experts, to form a consensus about high school basketball's top prospects.

Experts Legend
HS = Hoop Scoop = Clark Francis
RC = RivalsHoops.com = Jerry Meyer & Justin Young
HM = Hoopmasters = Van Coleman & Bob Gibbons
DT = Insiders.com = Dave Telep.
PS = Prep Stars = Brick Oettinger
SI = Scouts Inc (ESPN)
RH = Prep Stars = Rob Harrington

[More Cowbell]

http://www.examiner.com/x-1605-Connecticut-High-School-Sports-Examiner~y2009m1d19-Prep-school-notebook-Parrom-and-Xavier-University-should-be-a-good-match

[Emp]

At 6-6 he is going to get more of a chance to play at the small forward than at "swing guard". There is that Crawford kid. Losing BJ Raymond's 3 point zone buster seems more crucial than CJ being too fast for opposing power forwards in close.

This is a problem I love to have. Nice find on the article.

[MHettel]

I never understand why they call CJ a "swingman." heck during the pre-game for one of the games on the CBS station, they we're talking about his inside out game.

CJ is a pure PF with ONE move. He drives straight to the hoop, no baby hook, no jumper, no fadeaway. That said he's REALLY effective at that one move.

[stophorseabuse]

Hettel, he also has a pivot and reverse pivot to be fair.

What make Anderson D-1 worthy is his INCREDIBLE ability to finish from any angle, his anticipation skills off his own misses, and his physical strength. He does handle it pretty well too. When he takes a shot he is an animal until the ball goes through the strings.

He is D-1 deficient in Size, 3 pt range, mid range, ft shooting, and athleticism.

If he wasn't just uncanny in his ability to finish he'd play D-2 ball.
________
Ford Ka history (http://www.ford-wiki.com/wiki/Ford_Ka)

[Juice]

In that article the writer talks about Parrom's shooting and how it is greatly improving. Does anyone know how good of a shooter he is? Can you compare him to someone on this team like Dante?

[kyxu]

Hettel, he also has a pivot and reverse pivot to be fair.

What make Anderson D-1 worthy is his INCREDIBLE ability to finish from any angle, his anticipation skills off his own misses, and his physical strength. He does handle it pretty well too. When he takes a shot he is an animal until the ball goes through the strings.

He is D-1 deficient in Size, 3 pt range, mid range, ft shooting, and athleticism.

If he wasn't just uncanny in his ability to finish he'd play D-2 ball.

I agree, though CJ does have a pretty unreal first step, and is strong as hell.

The best I've seen him this year was against UC. He was kissing it off the glass with guys draped all over him. He's better when our offense is spread out and has to take his man off the dribble. He won't be denied at getting to the hoop, but when it's crowded he has problems. Having guys like Redford on the team are a blessing to CJ, as it prevents whomever is guarding the perimeter from coming in to help when CJ drives. You can't really guard Anderson one-on-one.

[XU 87]

He is D-1 deficient in size, 3 pt range, mid range, ft shooting, and athleticism.



I agree with the first four. But I think he's very athletic. And he can handle the pretty the ball pretty well.

He actually has decent size. It's just that he's a 6'6" interior player who can't shoot. There aren't many of those around playing major college basketball.

[Muskie]

I agree, though CJ does have a pretty unreal first step, and is strong as hell.

The best I've seen him this year was against UC. He was kissing it off the glass with guys draped all over him. He's better when our offense is spread out and has to take his man off the dribble. He won't be denied at getting to the hoop, but when it's crowded he has problems. Having guys like Redford on the team are a blessing to CJ, as it prevents whomever is guarding the perimeter from coming in to help when CJ drives. You can't really guard Anderson one-on-one.

My understanding is that CJ has changed his game from his days at Manhattan. I was under the impression that he took more jump shots in that system, though I could be mistaken.

[MHettel]

Don't get me wrong. I like CJ quite a bit. He reminds me of a relief pitcher that throws a 100mph fastball, and you know that's all he's coming with.

[Jumpy]

In that article the writer talks about Parrom's shooting and how it is greatly improving. Does anyone know how good of a shooter he is? Can you compare him to someone on this team like Dante?


I recently saw some youtube videos of him and was surprised that he has such a good shot from outside. I can't say exactly how good, because they were highlight videos and didn't give any stats.

He does have good form shooting from outside, though. Impressed me.

[XU 87]

My understanding is that CJ has changed his game from his days at Manhattan. I was under the impression that he took more jump shots in that system, though I could be mistaken.

Before CJ got here I read on the Rivals board that he couldn't shoot but that he takes the ball to the basket as well as anyone. That analysis turned out to be true.

[Muskie]

You're probably right 87. I might be confusing CJ with someone like Parrom.

[X Factor]

From the videos I've seen of Parrom, he reminds me of Justin Cage with a better jumper.

Parrom can finish with either hand around the rim and can step outside and hit the three. He looks to be a pretty good rebounder too.

He could be an excellent small forward/shooting guard down the road.

Here's a couple of videos.


Parrom 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufenA3buN7s)


Parrom 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SOW0FIYG2g&feature=related)

[OX09]

Here's a little more info about Parrom, courtesy of our favorite network:

ESPN Kevin Parrom Report (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=43432&season=2009&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d434 32%26season%3d2009)

[bleedXblue]

I see him stepping in almost right away and assuming the 3 position next year.

It would be a lot of fun watching Brown, Love, Crawford, Holloway and Parrom on floor all at the same time.....and then be able to run Frease, Redford, Lyons and McClean off he bench.......thats a damb solid 9 guys......with the guys off the bench all capable of starting.

[Muskie91]

I see him stepping in almost right away and assuming the 3 position next year.

It would be a lot of fun watching Brown, Love, Crawford, Holloway and Parrom on floor all at the same time.....and then be able to run Frease, Redford, Lyons and McClean off he bench.......thats a damb solid 9 guys......with the guys off the bench all capable of starting.

People seem to forget about Jackson. There is no way he doesn't get significant minutes and likely start.

[bleedXblue]

Yes, my bad.......Jackson will be a key part of the team...he is becoming more and more versatile.....he can play PG and SG......I wonder if Miller is considering him at all for a role like BJ's this year ? It would be great if he could add 10-15 lbs in the offseason

[jdm2000]

Does anyone know if Parrom can jump off one foot?

[MADXSTER]

Does anyone know if Parrom can jump off one foot?

Yes, but he doesn't like to show-off.

And that's a solid, solid 10 guys.

[xuwin]

Yes, but he doesn't like to show-off.

And that's a solid, solid 10 guys.

Throw in a healthy Walsh and when has Xavier ever had 11 quality scholarship players that they can put in the game and give them quality minutes. That is a group that could tolerate a lot of injuries and still keep a quality linup on the floor.

[XUfaninJAX]

Even though there are a good amount of them Parrom was also listed as a finalist for the McDonald's All-American game... he is going to be solid in his first year and years to come

[pimpinthebox]

Throw in a healthy Walsh and when has Xavier ever had 11 quality scholarship players that they can put in the game and give them quality minutes. That is a group that could tolerate a lot of injuries and still keep a quality linup on the floor.

As we know now, Walsh is going to redshirt this season. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think he'll ever really contribute to this team. Just being honest.

[wkrq59]

That first article in this thread fails to stress the one thing that will guarantee Parrom a seat on the Xavier bench to start the season--DEFENSE.The kid may be all-everything, and even a Mac Donalds All-American, but if he can't or doesn't defend, he'll sit.:D

[xavfan123]

Kevin Parrom is a nominee, i didn't know if anyone knew this or not.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?cid=900591

[Xman95]

Who's Kevin Parrom?

[Xman95]

Just Kidding!!!

[Jumpy]

Who's Kevin Parrom?

Really?

He's next in line to continue X's tradition of excellence. Coming in next year.

EDIT: nevermind. Should have known.

[mr. zimpher]

Who's Kevin Parrom?

baller....

[Xman95]

Really?

He's next in line to continue X's tradition of excellence. Coming in next year.

EDIT: nevermind. Should have known.

I wasn't sure if anyone would fall for that.

[DoubleD86]

It appears the McDonald's All American teams have been announced...Kevin did not make the roster.

For all the historians out there, has X ever gotten a McD's AA recruit?

For some reason I feel like Lavender was, but he went to Oklahoma out of high school.

[BlueGuy]

It appears the McDonald's All American teams have been announced...Kevin did not make the roster.

For all the historians out there, has X ever gotten a McD's AA recruit?

For some reason I feel like Lavender was, but he went to Oklahoma out of high school.

Lavender was. I don't count him b/c he didn't come here right away. I believe Lloyd Price was a nominee as well. He played in the Magic Johnson Classic. Churchill Odia was close too, he played in that Hoops Summit game.

[XU05and07]

Lavender was. I don't count him b/c he didn't come here right away. I believe Lloyd Price was a nominee as well. He played in the Magic Johnson Classic. Churchill Odia was close too, he played in that Hoops Summit game.

And this is why we shouldn't put any stock in who is McDonald's All-Americans and who is not.

[X Factor]

Sato was a McD's nominee and actually made it to the last round of 50 finalists. Had he played more than one year of HS ball, he would of been an All-American.

[GoMuskies]

And this is why we shouldn't put any stock in who is McDonald's All-Americans and who is not.

Neil Fingleton

[MHettel]

Odia wasn't. I dont even think he played his senior year due to his visa issues.

[kyxu]

Not to take away from the honor of being a nominee, but I think there are like 800 nominees for McDonald's AA for a very limited number of spots.

A kid I played ball with in high school was a nominee, and he wasn't anywhere near the talent of what Miller recruits. He wasn't even listed on rivals or anything like that.

[PMI]

I don't believe David West was a nominee.

[Pluto]

Darnell Williams was a McD AA Nominee

[Mrs. Garrett]

Not to take away from the honor of being a nominee, but I think there are like 800 nominees for McDonald's AA for a very limited number of spots.

A kid I played ball with in high school was a nominee, and he wasn't anywhere near the talent of what Miller recruits. He wasn't even listed on rivals or anything like that.

Yeah, one of my teammates in high school was one. He graduated the year before me, averaged 25 pts, and 13 boards a game. He didn't have any D1 offers. That's what happens when you're a 6-4 center I guess. He played NAIA in college.

[More Cowbell]

February, 2009: Parrom has very good athleticism and quickness, which allows him to get to the rim almost at wool. Once at the tin, Parrom uses his decent amount of strength and very good body control to take contact in the paint, adjust in the air, and still finish off lay-ups. He excels in the open court when he has the chance to build up a head of steam and drive to the rim for athletic finishes. He uses floaters and angles very well to finish off a number of plays around the hoop. Parrom could become an even better penetrator if he improves his ball-handling skills and gets rid of his tendency to over-dribble. He could also benefit from adding a mid-range pull-up jumper to his offensive game. Parrom also needs to improve his consistency from the perimeter. He does a good job of playing passing lanes for steals which creates more fast breaks for his team.

[Espe]

Sounds kind of like CJ from that description.

[dnyed]

He is as talented as any player that was recruited last year. He will contribute next year and be a solid player. Everything I've read says that he is a tremendous athlete. It won't take long for him to fit into the program.

[Xman95]

Sounds kind of like CJ from that description.

That's exactly what I was thinking, although ANY shooting ability outside of 5-feet will give him something CJ doesn't have. And, if we can get another CJ in the form of a freshman...I'll take it. Parrom could be a beast in a couple years.

[X Factor]

I would say he's somewhere between Justin Cage and CJ Anderson, but probably more like Cage.

Take a look at this video.

Kevin Parrom video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufenA3buN7s)

[Xman95]

I would say he's somewhere between Justin Cage and CJ Anderson, but probably more like Cage.

Take a look at this video.

Kevin Parrom video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufenA3buN7s)

I just saw him hit more outside shots in 1:37 than CJ has hit in two years!

[xunorm]

When I saw his video last fall, the first guy I thought of was a more athletic Cage, which is phenomenal. I think Parrom will do the garbage work his first two years, and then develop a jumper and really become tougher to guard as he develops

[xufan02]

Kevin Parrom I think has the potential if he works to be like Sam Young of Pitt. Has the size, athleticsm, and handle.

[MADXSTER]

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=43432&season=2009&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d434 32%26season%3d2009

Nice right up and video of Parrom

[Juice]

Update on Parrom:

http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/04/14/jordan-brand-classic-notes-dane-miller-injured-kevin-parrom-weighing-options/#more-14969


Kevin Parrom of South Kent (Conn.) is playing in the Regional Game and his status is up in the air because Xavier recently lost head coach Sean Miller to Arizona and then replaced him with assistant Chris Mack, who will be introduced Wednesday at 1 p.m.

Asked what his plans were, the 6-5 Parrom said, “I have no comment right now.”

Parrom could ask for a release from his Letter of Intent and choose to follow Miller and assistant Book Richardson to Arizona, or he could choose another school altogether. Or he could remain at Xavier.

A report Wednesday said that Parrom had already slated visits to Rhode Island and Providence on Monday, but a Providence source said that was completely untrue.

“Anyone that would let a kid step on their campus without a release should be shot,” the source said.

Parrom has yet to speak with Mack and ask for a release, according to sources.

Once Mack speaks with Parrom, the player could then choose to ask for a release and the school could grant one.

But the source said Xavier would never let Parrom go to Rhode Island or another A-10 school.

“Xavier’s not going to release the kid to an Atlantic 10 school,” the source said. “Why the [heck] would they do that?

“If the kid gets released, I’m sure he’s going to want to put Arizona on his list and a bunch of Big East schools.”

Before deciding his future, Parrom is excited to play in the game at Madison Square Garden.

“I’m very excited about playing in Madison Square Garden,” he said. “I can’t wait.”

Hopefully Mack can convince him to stay.

[AviatorX]

Update on Parrom:

http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/04/14/jordan-brand-classic-notes-dane-miller-injured-kevin-parrom-weighing-options/#more-14969



Hopefully Mack can convince him to stay.

I laughed at some of the sources quotes, didn't seem to professional. I'd say our chances of keeping King Kev are 50/50, which kind of sucks.

[xsteve1]

I've got to think if Parrom doesn't come to X which I don't think he will, will most likely end up at a Big East school. No way Rhode Island.

[kyxu]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Parrom remains a Musketeer.

[An X Fan]

From Shannon Russell (http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog05&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3afdda4dab-ab39-43a7-8ba8-36da2f75a889Post%3ac5816583-7dfb-4c29-bd80-e20b10398c3b&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com):

- On Kevin Parrom: "I've talked to Kevin on the phone quite a few times. His situation, hopefully, we can resolve. I'm going to try to go up there and see him this weekend, see his family. I don't know how it's going to play out. I want guys that want to be at Xavier. (I'm) never going to put anybody in a headlock. Kevin knows I believe in him and I'm hoping that he can be a part of our family, I really am. But I'll find more out this weekend."

[kyxu]

From Shannon Russell (http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog05&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3afdda4dab-ab39-43a7-8ba8-36da2f75a889Post%3ac5816583-7dfb-4c29-bd80-e20b10398c3b&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com):

- On Kevin Parrom: "I've talked to Kevin on the phone quite a few times. His situation, hopefully, we can resolve. I'm going to try to go up there and see him this weekend, see his family. I don't know how it's going to play out. I want guys that want to be at Xavier. (I'm) never going to put anybody in a headlock. Kevin knows I believe in him and I'm hoping that he can be a part of our family, I really am. But I'll find more out this weekend."

That's really all you can hope for from Mack. If Parrom's main reason for being at Xavier was Miller and Richardson and he no longer wants to be around...then best of luck to him.

[boozehound]

I agree. Hopefully Kevin realizes that Xavier is still the place for him to be. The coach may have changed but the system remains the same and so does the program.

[DC Muskie]

It's too bad Kevin doesn't want to be a Musketeer for Life. Maybe he can convince Mack that I'm worng.

[Pete Delkus]

From Shannon Russell (http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog05&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3afdda4dab-ab39-43a7-8ba8-36da2f75a889Post%3ac5816583-7dfb-4c29-bd80-e20b10398c3b&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com):

- On Kevin Parrom: "I've talked to Kevin on the phone quite a few times. His situation, hopefully, we can resolve. I'm going to try to go up there and see him this weekend, see his family. I don't know how it's going to play out. I want guys that want to be at Xavier. (I'm) never going to put anybody in a headlock. Kevin knows I believe in him and I'm hoping that he can be a part of our family, I really am. But I'll find more out this weekend."

The way this is worded, I thought this quote was said by Shannon...She was going to fly up there and put him in a headlock!

I thought only UK beat writers did stuff like this!

[Cheesehead]

I would say he's 50-50 too. Another blow from the Sean fallout. It really blows. This is the stuff that really pisses me off.

[AviatorX]

In other news, Kevin took the annual "Every player that signs with Xavier drops 50 spots in the rankings" tumble today, dropping down to a 3-star prospect on Rivals.

[xu15]

In other news, Kevin took the annual "Every player that signs with Xavier drops 50 spots in the rankings" tumble today, dropping down to a 3-star prospect on Rivals.

Total bullshit.

[SixFig]

In other news, Kevin took the annual "Every player that signs with Xavier drops 50 spots in the rankings" tumble today, dropping down to a 3-star prospect on Rivals.

I wonder if, now that they have decommited, Latham and Weatherspoon will rise 50 spots. I wouldn't put it past Weatherspoon. Stud.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

I wonder if, now that they have decommited, Latham and Weatherspoon will rise 50 spots. I wouldn't put it past Weatherspoon. Stud.

100% agree on weatherspoon six. I'm sure Mack is in constant contact with both...a visit is probably gonna happen soon

[waggy]

I think Kevin's drop is based on how his team faired as much as anything. We've had players rise and fall in the rankings the last few years.

[Juice]

The lastest rumor (and please treat it as such) I have heard that Parrom is gone and going to Uconn.

There are obvious questions surrounding that, but this is just what I heave heard.

[xu15]

The lastest rumor (and please treat it as such) I have heard that Parrom is gone and going to Uconn.

There are obvious questions surrounding that, but this is just what I heave heard.

I really hope we get Parrom, but out of the 3 guys we are trying not to lose I would be stoked with 2. Just gimme 2 of 3 baby. Oh, and I want Spoon. Hes a freak.

[SixFig]

The lastest rumor (and please treat it as such) I have heard that Parrom is gone and going to Uconn.

There are obvious questions surrounding that, but this is just what I heave heard.

Doesn't surprise me in the least. Allegedly UConn tried to steal Cheeks Lyons from us after he had ALREADY commited to X.

Why would you even go to UConn? There should be fallout from the Nate Miles scandal that could cripple the program...that is...if the NCAA doesn't turn a blind eye as usual.

[xnatic03]

If UConn's going after Parrom while he is still under his LOI agreement with us, that's just plain idiotic with all the Nate Miles stuff coming out lately. Not that it will stop them, but you think they'd be smarter than that right now.

[Xman95]

The lastest rumor (and please treat it as such) I have heard that Parrom is gone and going to Uconn.

I would love to see him get into an argument and punch Calhoun!



If UConn's going after Parrom while he is still under his LOI agreement with us, that's just plain idiotic with all the Nate Miles stuff coming out lately. Not that it will stop them, but you think they'd be smarter than that right now.

It would be typical of Calhoun. The guy has some good traits, but when it comes to stuff like this he's an A-1 a-hole. There have been enough columns, articles, stories, etc. that talked about how Calhoun/UConn has no concern or respect for the standard operating procedures which most programs follow. This wouldn't be the first time they recruited a player that had already committed, let alone signed a LOI, and it won't be the last.

I know it won't happen because the NCAA rarely puts a big hit on its higher profile programs, but I would really love to see UConn get slapped with a major punishment.

[Juice]

If UConn's going after Parrom while he is still under his LOI agreement with us, that's just plain idiotic with all the Nate Miles stuff coming out lately. Not that it will stop them, but you think they'd be smarter than that right now.

That was my first question when I heard the rumor but then I remembered that college coaches are one step above politicians and two steps above pieces of shit.

[xsteve1]

I would love to see him get into an argument and punch Calhoun!




It would be typical of Calhoun. The guy has some good traits, but when it comes to stuff like this he's an A-1 a-hole. There have been enough columns, articles, stories, etc. that talked about how Calhoun/UConn has no concern or respect for the standard operating procedures which most programs follow. This wouldn't be the first time they recruited a player that had already committed, let alone signed a LOI, and it won't be the last.

I know it won't happen because the NCAA rarely puts a big hit on its higher profile programs, but I would really love to see UConn get slapped with a major punishment.

Does UCONN still have the 0% grad. rate? Calhoun's an ass.

[X-man]

If UConn's going after Parrom while he is still under his LOI agreement with us, that's just plain idiotic with all the Nate Miles stuff coming out lately. Not that it will stop them, but you think they'd be smarter than that right now.

I think you open yourself up to sanctions if you "tamper" with a kid who has a signed LOI. Of course sanctions would simply be "piling on" given the ton of sh*t about to be dumped onto Calhoun's head over the Miles stuff.

[UCGRAD4X]

If UConn's going after Parrom while he is still under his LOI agreement with us, that's just plain idiotic with all the Nate Miles stuff coming out lately. Not that it will stop them, but you think they'd be smarter than that right now.

It's got nothing to do with smarts.

It's got to do with - 'whatever it takes and not go too far over the line'. As long as there is no hard and fast rule against it - do not count it out, in fact, expect it.

After all they are BIG TIME and we are .... not.

[xnatic03]

It's got nothing to do with smarts.

It's got to do with - 'whatever it takes and not go too far over the line'. As long as there is no hard and fast rule against it - do not count it out, in fact, expect it.

After all they are BIG TIME and we are .... not.

Yeah, they are big time, but so are a lot of other schools that aren't necessarily under investigation for recruiting violations. I'm sure plenty of it goes on with all the other schools, but if UConn is that blatantly stupid about things when they are already being looked at by the NCAA, then they are completely idiotic.

[XURunner85]

I do believe that no one can talk to Parrom until Xavier releases him from his LOI and that has not happened, in fact he hasn't asked out yet. That is why Mack is going there this weekend to make sure he doesn't ask out of the LOI. I hope Chris can keep him but we are ok for next year without him but would be better with him especially if Brown does decide to stay in the draft and even better if both are on the team....Use the FORCE Chris...

[dc_x]

I do believe that no one can talk to Parrom until Xavier releases him from his LOI and that has not happened, in fact he hasn't asked out yet. That is why Mack is going there this weekend to make sure he doesn't ask out of the LOI. I hope Chris can keep him but we are ok for next year without him but would be better with him especially if Brown does decide to stay in the draft and even better if both are on the team....Use the FORCE Chris...

You're right that nobody can outright talk to Parrom, but there is plenty of recruiting going on through the back channels. You better believe that Parrom's coach or parents or whoever influences his decision has been contacted by other schools or people acting on behalf of other schools.

[AdamtheFlyer]

You're right that nobody can outright talk to Parrom, but there is plenty of recruiting going on through the back channels. You better believe that Parrom's coach or parents or whoever influences his decision has been contacted by other schools or people acting on behalf of other schools.

Book's old AAU buddies, no doubt.

This is the danger of having AAU lackeys on your college staff. Not only are package deals slimy, but they fall apart quicker than the French front lines. Book leaves X and suddenly his other AAU mentors are in his ear, trying to ship him to someone else and hopefully go along for the ride.

If Mack can get the kid to stay, it would be a major coup for a coach with 5 days of experience. He's up against slimeballs who have been playing "the game" for years. Let's face it, be it youthful innocence or something else, Parrom appears to the be kind of kid that is easily influenced by his "mentors".

[dc_x]

Book's old AAU buddies, no doubt.

This is the danger of having AAU lackeys on your college staff. Not only are package deals slimy, but they fall apart quicker than the French front lines. Book leaves X and suddenly his other AAU mentors are in his ear, trying to ship him to someone else and hopefully go along for the ride.

If Mack can get the kid to stay, it would be a major coup for a coach with 5 days of experience. He's up against slimeballs who have been playing "the game" for years. Let's face it, be it youthful innocence or something else, Parrom appears to the be kind of kid that is easily influenced by his "mentors".

The fact that people behind the scenes are whispering in Parrom's ear has nothing to do with the fact that he was recruited by Book. That's just the nature of college sports.

I think Parrom has been mature about this and what he has said and done is appropriate given the circumstances.

[Cincy Muskie]

Adam,

All coaches are 'slimy' to a degree. They would all go to great lengths to secure the best talent possible, and not all would use ethical means. Chances are 50/50 we keep Parrom.

[stxxu]

Shannon has an update on her blog on Parrom. Nothing really concrete, but an update nonetheless:

I haven't been able to get hold of signee Kevin Parrom during the last two weeks, but I'm sure it's been a time of introspection for him. Chris Mack told me he has had a chance to talk to Kevin and will talk to him again tomorrow.

"We still don't have a concrete answer, but I think we made a good impression," Mack said. "I feel like the meeting went very well with Kevin."

We'll know more later. Stay tuned!

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[CleXU]

Scout.com has an article headlined saying that Xavier has released Parrom from his National Letter of Intent. I have not seen this anywhere else... anybody else know if there is any truth to it. I find it hard to believe that happening with Mack still there talking to him.

here's the link
http://xavier.scout.com/a.z?s=442&p=2&c=857871&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fxavier.scout.com%2fa.z%3 fs%3d442%26p%3d2%26c%3d857871%26refid%3d400

[wkrq59]

The fact that people behind the scenes are whispering in Parrom's ear has nothing to do with the fact that he was recruited by Book. That's just the nature of college sports.

I think Parrom has been mature about this and what he has said and done is appropriate given the circumstances.
DCX, why would Kevin Parrom even look at Connecticut?? Did anybody read the statements of Calhoun right before and after his team got knocked out of the tournament? I think what's being discussed is Kevin wanted to play for Sean Miller and now that Sean is no longer the Xavier coach he's having doubts.
Again, why would he want to go play at a school that almost certainly be oplaced under NCAA sanctions? Why if he wants to play for a coach who will be at the school for his years there, would he consider a coach who has said he's going to have to decide whether it's time for him to consider other things i.e. retirement. That word was asked of him and he did not say "No." Also, the man has successfully battled cancer three times and really looks awful. I don't wish him ill, but as a cancer survivor myself, I don't make a whole lot of long-term plans other than enjoying retirement. I doubt too many of Arizona's games are telecast to the east coast, but I know damn near every Xavier game is because the A10 has several teams, 3 Philadelphia, 1 New York City, one Amherst, Mass. one Kingston R.I. and one Olean NY. I don't know Fox's range, but I'd be willing to bet even Richmond and GW are beamed into that area or New York he's from. Kevin;s family might see him play one or two times in the four years he'd be at UofA where they could watch him in person when X plays at least three more games in Fordham's lil band box. My Lord, they could even go to the tournament in Atlantic City.
:D

[xufan02]

Scout.com has an article headlined saying that Xavier has released Parrom from his National Letter of Intent. I have not seen this anywhere else... anybody else know if there is any truth to it. I find it hard to believe that happening with Mack still there talking to him.

here's the link
http://xavier.scout.com/a.z?s=442&p=2&c=857871&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fxavier.scout.com%2fa.z%3 fs%3d442%26p%3d2%26c%3d857871%26refid%3d400
I hope this is not a creditable scout reporter, but I tend to think worst case scenario.

[BlueX]

http://w3.nbebasketball.com/index.php/kevin-parrom-receives-release/

He at least still has X as a possibility.

[kyxu]

He at least still has X as a possibility.

May as well not be. If Parrom asked for his release, I really doubt he's coming to Xavier.

But hey, like Mack said, we only want guys who want to play here.

[Cincy Muskie]

I would take all this early information to indicate he is gone. Out of friendship or understanding with Mack he is still considering X a 'possibility'. Reality is he is most likely headed to the Big East. Solomon Hill who just committed to Arizona and plays the same spot so I am not sure King Kev will want to go there. However there is plenty of PT to be had in Tuscon.

I think Xavier will be just fine and we could see a late signee or IMO most likely a player that is a transfer to be ready for the 2010-2011 season. With Crawford, Lyons, and Walsh we have a built in three player class for next season already. IF everybody stays for next season we only have two scholarships available.

[X-man]

http://w3.nbebasketball.com/index.php/kevin-parrom-receives-release/

He at least still has X as a possibility.

Not according to Scout. He's shown as having "no interest" in Xavier at this time. I really hope we can land a forward for next season. The depth would help plus we're gong to need some experience on the front line in 2010. If we're as good as advertised next year, Mack will have an "easy sell" I would think for recruiting given the fact that (1) the Muskies will have had success under their new coach, and (2) there WILL be plenty of playing time available for frontcourt players in 2010 and beyond.

[ZONACAT]

DCX, why would Kevin Parrom even look at Connecticut?? Did anybody read the statements of Calhoun right before and after his team got knocked out of the tournament? I think what's being discussed is Kevin wanted to play for Sean Miller and now that Sean is no longer the Xavier coach he's having doubts.
Again, why would he want to go play at a school that almost certainly be oplaced under NCAA sanctions? Why if he wants to play for a coach who will be at the school for his years there, would he consider a coach who has said he's going to have to decide whether it's time for him to consider other things i.e. retirement. That word was asked of him and he did not say "No." Also, the man has successfully battled cancer three times and really looks awful. I don't wish him ill, but as a cancer survivor myself, I don't make a whole lot of long-term plans other than enjoying retirement. I doubt too many of Arizona's games are telecast to the east coast, but I know damn near every Xavier game is because the A10 has several teams, 3 Philadelphia, 1 New York City, one Amherst, Mass. one Kingston R.I. and one Olean NY. I don't know Fox's range, but I'd be willing to bet even Richmond and GW are beamed into that area or New York he's from. Kevin;s family might see him play one or two times in the four years he'd be at UofA where they could watch him in person when X plays at least three more games in Fordham's lil band box. My Lord, they could even go to the tournament in Atlantic City.
:D

I'm in Dallas and I have never missed an Arizona game because it wasn't on TV. It only takes an upgrade on Satellite/cable to get all of the regional Fox Sports channels and you will get Pac 10 games. Fox Sports Arizona is money. The announcers suck and the time difference will blow, but Arizona will be on TV.

That being said, I'd be shocked if Parrom doesn't stay east. Hopefully he comes back to Xavier and stays away from UCONN.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Looks like its official now.

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog05&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3afdda4dab-ab39-43a7-8ba8-36da2f75a889Post%3a37646a52-91f3-4da1-b3b4-c23e0e0ec08b&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Looks like its official now.

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog05&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3afdda4dab-ab39-43a7-8ba8-36da2f75a889Post%3a37646a52-91f3-4da1-b3b4-c23e0e0ec08b&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

I guess the meeting did not go well after all mack

[golfitup]

I gotta say, this off season has been AWESOME so far. If he goes to Arizona I might lose it.

[PM Thor]

I'm not surprised in the least. The guys who have left seemed to be interested in only being under Miller, and didn't buy into the whole concept behind the Xavier program.

I don't want this to sound bitter, because it really isn't, but if Kevin doesn't want to be at Xavier, I don't want him at Xavier. I wish him well and hope he finds a good fit for himself.

I HATE dayton.

[bobbiemcgee]

I'm not sure he would've played that much, unless D Brown goes to NBA. He was a top 150, so we need to get another one or a transfer. We're still two deep everywhere.

[PMI]

I'm not surprised in the least. The guys who have left seemed to be interested in only being under Miller, and didn't buy into the whole concept behind the Xavier program.

I don't want this to sound bitter, because it really isn't, but if Kevin doesn't want to be at Xavier, I don't want him at Xavier. I wish him well and hope he finds a good fit for himself.

I HATE dayton.

I've heard this argument a lot on here and I don't really agree. Would he be any less of a player for coming here for a coach than he would coming here for the "Xavier family" concept? I don't think so. I think most of the players who buy into the Xavier Way thing do so after having already been a part of it, not before. Stanley Burrell is a great example of someone who really shows that he believes in it and appreciates being a part of the XU family, but if he had gotten an offer from, say, Indiana, when he was 19, or could have been a lottery pick after his sophomore year, for example, I think his tone wold have changed. I believe that Xavier has a special program and that our players can see that, but they don't just come onto campus with a complete grasp of that. Anyone who does would be extremely mature and focused for his age, and like it or not not all of our players are (were) at that age. It's about SELLING this concept to a player and having him buy it. Miller sold it to him and then left, and took Book. Do we really expect Parrom to turn around after that and say, "Shame about Miller and Book, but I didn't come here for them, I came here for Xavier," and honor his LOI? It would be nice, no doubt, but it's not very realistic and it doesn't make me feel any less about him or about wanting him here.

I wish we could have Parrom still. If he wasn't crazy about the campus and thought the girls weren't hot enough and that the caf food wasn't that sweet and didn't want to go to house parties in Norwood, etc., then maybe after losing Miller and Book, Xavier just didn't interest him the same way. When I looked at Xavier there were a handful of things that I wasn't crazy about to go along with the things that made me choose it, but if one or two of those things (say the basketball program and Soupies) were cancelled before I made my decision, I'm pretty sure nobody could have sold me on the "Xavier Way" over some warm-weather school with lots of hot girls.

I know you don't seem bitter Thor, so this isn't directed at you, just at the general argument that we don't want a player unless he wants Xavier. Personally, I want any good player we can get because I'm confident that the XU program could grow on them and that they would realize how possible it is to succeed here. I would take Parrom back in a heartbeat.

[stophorseabuse]

I have said very little throughout this whole ordeal. I am fine with the hiring of Mack. However, the future of this program has now been completely dismantled by Miller. Mack has a hell of a job to do to rebuild it.

X looks to have no class in 09, and we are now WAY behind in 2010. This is a major problem. right now we have NO ONE on board to be true Jr's and Sr's in 12-13. Lyons and Walsh would be seniors that year so long as they stay.

Mack has not been dealt the same fortune Miller was with the incomings. Miller was able to keep Odia, Burrell, and Duncan. two of which led him to the E8. Mack has NO ONE right now. I gotta say, I wish X would have ponied up big $$ to keep Book. We would still be looking at Parrom and Latham. As it stands Sean Miller is destroying the foundation of Xavier basketball. Next year may be our last good shot at a final 4, assuming Brown comes back--and it's going to have to be done with an unproven coach.

Yeah, Im concerned.
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[LadyMuskie]

I want to say that if Parrom doesn't want to be here then good riddance, but I really think he would have been an asset to our team, and if he changes his mind I think we should welcome him with open arms! With each passing day we seem to be losing more ground in the all important recruiting game. I'm not blaming Mack by any means, but something is not clicking with him and the recruits. I realize Book was our go to guy on the East coast, but its making me very nervous for our future that he can't convince the recruits to stay on board who had already committed. I'm not saying I have no faith in Mack, but stophorseabuse is right - he has a hell of a job ahead of him. I'm hoping that once he has his staff in place, things will turn around, but in the meantime, I don't think its wrong to be a little worried.

[wkrq59]

Several knowns:
1)Mack does have a helluva job ahead of him and he knew that when he took it. The 2010 de-commits were almost instaneous the day Sean left and Parrom after phone calls from Book and Miller --tampering????---jumped ship. And please don't try to tell me those calls weren't made. If Sean could flat out lie and say Xavier didn't try to match or come close to matching AZ's offer, he could also tamper with a signed recruit.
2.)Xavier will be alright. We'll have to tone back our unrealistic Final Four expectations to more realistic goals. The main thing is to keep all the players on the present roster.
3.) I'm confident Chris Mack and his new staff, which is one short, remember, will be able to replace the three lost, maybe even get Weatherspoon and Latham back in the fold. But I doubt Parrom.
4.) It would be nice to find a replacement for Parrom because the upcoming team may have some problems scoring and Kevin might have given XU a little more depth.
5.) I don't wish Sean any ill will, but I do think the NCAA needs to strengthen the LOI or get rid of it all--together. I have no idea on how to replace it, but right now an LOI is as good as a college coach's contract.
6.)There's no sense even discussing Sean any more because Xavier needs to move on and so do we. The bullsh!t of what might have been is just that, bull excrement. Forget it.
7.) Xavier will not always be the same Xavier as has been. Under the direction of Fr. Graham, Mike B. and Chris, Xavier basketball can and will improve.
8.) While some rumors might be fodder for speculation and concern, they can also be damaging to the program and grossly unfair. Forget 'em.
9.) Last year at this time, Terrell Holloway and Jordan Crawford were not on the horizon and today they are at Xavier.
10.) From what I have seen and know of Chris Mack, he's not going to sit idly by as Sean rapes his program, if that is what's ahead and I have my doubts that it is. Rest assured he'll find a solution. Who knows, those three kids may have a change of heart and they may not. Things were pretty grim a few years ago when Odia and Lucas transferred and even later Death Wish and Adrion Graves left, but Xavier survived.
We might have to temper our expectations but not out fealty and enthusiasm. And PMThor will still hate Dayton..:D

[GuyFawkes38]

Not surprised. Mack did the right thing (when Bruce Pearl took the Tennessee job, he forced a kid who signed the LOI to come to Tennessee. It's just the wrong thing to do).

I have to disagree with the Q (who I normally agree with). Strengthening the LOI when college coaches switch schools so much does not seem like a good idea (did Holloway sing a LOI for Indiana last year...I'm X has benefited somewhere in the past for kids getting out of it).

[AviatorX]

I want to say that if Parrom doesn't want to be here then good riddance, but I really think he would have been an asset to our team, and if he changes his mind I think we should welcome him with open arms! With each passing day we seem to be losing more ground in the all important recruiting game. I'm not blaming Mack by any means, but something is not clicking with him and the recruits. I realize Book was our go to guy on the East coast, but its making me very nervous for our future that he can't convince the recruits to stay on board who had already committed. I'm not saying I have no faith in Mack, but stophorseabuse is right - he has a hell of a job ahead of him. I'm hoping that once he has his staff in place, things will turn around, but in the meantime, I don't think its wrong to be a little worried.

How can you make this statement based of the fact that he "lost" an what was clearly an uphill battle in keeping Parrom signed and also that Spoon and Latham decommited BEFORE Chris was even hired.

Something must have clicked when Mack was the lead recruiter on some of our best contributing players...

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

I agree with you WKRC. its time to move on. Easier said than done, especially when Parrom, Weatherspoon and latham are all interested in Arizona now...all after Kyryl. just annoying. We'll be ok in the short term, but the 09 class is pretty much cleaned out, and were at a disadvantage with 10. Next year is crucial. Make another Xavier type run deep into the NCAA, and all that recruiting will come back...at least thats the hope. We've seen how easy it is firsthand for a team to fall from the top (UC). The margin for error is so small. We just have to support/trust mack and the program.

[GuyFawkes38]

How can you make this statement based of the fact that he "lost" an what was clearly an uphill battle in keeping Parrom signed and also that Spoon and Latham decommited BEFORE Chris was even hired.

Something must have clicked when Mack was the lead recruiter on some of our best contributing players...

I think this is generally right.

But if either Holloway, Redford, or Frease leave, it's time to freak out about the hire.

[AviatorX]

I agree with you WKRC. its time to move on. Easier said than done, especially when Parrom, Weatherspoon and latham are all interested in Arizona now...all after Kyryl. just annoying. We'll be ok in the short term, but the 09 class is pretty much cleaned out, and were at a disadvantage with 10. Next year is crucial. Make another Xavier type run deep into the NCAA, and all that recruiting will come back...at least thats the hope. We've seen how easy it is firsthand for a team to fall from the top (UC). The margin for error is so small. We just have to support/trust mack and the program.

I have faith that with the addition of the well-connected Bino, we'll be able to regain a commitment from Latham. And barring an offer from OSU for 'Spoon, I still think we can make a strong run at him. All is not lost in 2010, especially with the rumors that we are the leaders for Donnie Hale, who is also a solid option.

[bobbiemcgee]

I agree......We have an awesome tradition...Kryl went to zona so he could start immediately....Parrom won't start here either....Plenty of time to pick up some more 150's or transfers.

[X-Fan]

It's a little too soon to take anything thing from what has happened in the first WEEK Coach Mack has been in charge. Dude is trying to get his staff finalized and re-engage with the recruits. I don't blame Parrom for wanting out of his LOI. It allows him to have his options open and talk to other schools. If he doesn't want to be at X then he shouldn't be here. There are other players out there and Coach Mack and his staff will find them. Lets let Coach do his job and see where the chips fall.

The sky is not falling...heck in terms of where we are at in this process, we can't even see the sky yet because we haven't gone outside to look at it (i.e. give coach a minute to work through this). Chill.

[XU99deuce]

I don't understand the need to freak out regardless. Whatever happens this offseason is not the fault of Chris Mack. If you wanted to freak out, you should have done it when Miller left, because losing recruits/transfers whenever a coaching change occurs. This is especially true for the current situation, because Mack was not the lead recruiter on Parrom, Latham, or Weatherspoon.

As far as whether Bino helps in re-recruiting Latham, it'll help, but I'm not going to consider it a done deal just because the guy is connected to Baltimore.

[Xman95]

I want to say that if Parrom doesn't want to be here then good riddance, but I really think he would have been an asset to our team, and if he changes his mind I think we should welcome him with open arms! With each passing day we seem to be losing more ground in the all important recruiting game. I'm not blaming Mack by any means, but something is not clicking with him and the recruits. I realize Book was our go to guy on the East coast, but its making me very nervous for our future that he can't convince the recruits to stay on board who had already committed. I'm not saying I have no faith in Mack, but stophorseabuse is right - he has a hell of a job ahead of him. I'm hoping that once he has his staff in place, things will turn around, but in the meantime, I don't think its wrong to be a little worried.

This could be one of the biggest overreactions I have seen in a long while. It's not uncommon for players to look elsewhere when a coach leaves. And not just those coming in, but the ones that have already been in the program. Just because it's happening here doesn't mean it's the end of the world.

And there's no way to put this on Mack. If he lost one of his own incoming recruits, it might be a reason to worry. But these are kids that he probably didn't have too much contact with. Book and Sean probably did most of the communicating with these kids so they really don't have an idea about Mack and what he's like. And Latham and 'spoon decommitted before Mack was even the head coach. He did talk to Parrom a couple times, but he was in a position of basically trying to recruit a kid and get a commitment in a couple phone calls. I don't like the chances for any coach trying to do that.

So, basically, there's no reason to get concerned that Mack was the wrong hire based on anything that has happened so far.

[xunorm]

The way I read Parrom's release is that Mack is helping the kid with what has been going on the past couple weeks. Sure, I believe Parrom mostly signed because of Book and to play for Miller; but probably the worst thing Mack could do is to force him to follow his LOI. This way, X can focus on a back up plan while still hoping Parrom notices that Xavier as a program will always have his back, even when he has doubts. I think it was an act of good will by Mack to allow the release, and in return, Parrom won't make a rash decision to eliminate Xavier from his options.

[AviatorX]

The way I read Parrom's release is that Mack is helping the kid with what has been going on the past couple weeks. Sure, I believe Parrom mostly signed because of Book and to play for Miller; but probably the worst thing Mack could do is to force him to follow his LOI. This way, X can focus on a back up plan while still hoping Parrom notices that Xavier as a program will always have his back, even when he has doubts. I think it was an act of good will by Mack to allow the release, and in return, Parrom won't make a rash decision to eliminate Xavier from his options.

Sorry, norm, but if you ask me that's extremely wishful thinking. Parrom did the courtesy of mentioning XU as still in the running, but if he really was still considering X, would he be so quick to completely opt out of his LOI?

[xavierj]

I don't understand the need to freak out regardless. Whatever happens this offseason is not the fault of Chris Mack. If you wanted to freak out, you should have done it when Miller left, because losing recruits/transfers whenever a coaching change occurs. This is especially true for the current situation, because Mack was not the lead recruiter on Parrom, Latham, or Weatherspoon.

As far as whether Bino helps in re-recruiting Latham, it'll help, but I'm not going to consider it a done deal just because the guy is connected to Baltimore.

It is not just because of Baltimore but the guy had Latham freaking considering James Madison. I am sure if he can get him interested in JM he can get him back with XU.

[xudash]

Several knowns:
1)Mack does have a helluva job ahead of him and he knew that when he took it. The 2010 de-commits were almost instaneous the day Sean left and Parrom after phone calls from Book and Miller --tampering????---jumped ship. And please don't try to tell me those calls weren't made. If Sean could flat out lie and say Xavier didn't try to match or come close to matching AZ's offer, he could also tamper with a signed recruit.
2.)Xavier will be alright. We'll have to tone back our unrealistic Final Four expectations to more realistic goals. The main thing is to keep all the players on the present roster.
3.) I'm confident Chris Mack and his new staff, which is one short, remember, will be able to replace the three lost, maybe even get Weatherspoon and Latham back in the fold. But I doubt Parrom.
4.) It would be nice to find a replacement for Parrom because the upcoming team may have some problems scoring and Kevin might have given XU a little more depth.
5.) I don't wish Sean any ill will, but I do think the NCAA needs to strengthen the LOI or get rid of it all--together. I have no idea on how to replace it, but right now an LOI is as good as a college coach's contract.
6.)There's no sense even discussing Sean any more because Xavier needs to move on and so do we. The bullsh!t of what might have been is just that, bull excrement. Forget it.
7.) Xavier will not always be the same Xavier as has been. Under the direction of Fr. Graham, Mike B. and Chris, Xavier basketball can and will improve.
8.) While some rumors might be fodder for speculation and concern, they can also be damaging to the program and grossly unfair. Forget 'em.
9.) Last year at this time, Terrell Holloway and Jordan Crawford were not on the horizon and today they are at Xavier.
10.) From what I have seen and know of Chris Mack, he's not going to sit idly by as Sean rapes his program, if that is what's ahead and I have my doubts that it is. Rest assured he'll find a solution. Who knows, those three kids may have a change of heart and they may not. Things were pretty grim a few years ago when Odia and Lucas transferred and even later Death Wish and Adrion Graves left, but Xavier survived.
We might have to temper our expectations but not out fealty and enthusiasm. And PMThor will still hate Dayton..:D

Well done as usual, q. It's hard for me to get over #6 because of the trajectory Miller had us on and because I felt like he actually saw himself as our "Few" - damn naive on my part, in hindsight - but you're right, bemoaning all that will not reverse what has occurred.

So let's hope this is the last hit. Let's hope that our current roster stays in place.

And let's remember it's a big country. There are a lot of talented ball players out there and there are up and coming hungry coaches that want to make their mark. The flip side to this nonsense is that we actually probably are becoming known as the cradle of hoops coaches. Who wouldn't want to have the Xavier "platform" at their disposal while they add to its reputation while adding to their own resumes?

So let the new assistants come in and deliver excellent recruits that we'll learn about as we now move forward.

Let's move forward, continuing our success and continuing to improve.

I'm going to work on doing that, knowing that we probably aren't going to have to go through this again for at least 5 years, assuming Chris works out and assuming his love of Xavier isn't dwarfed and overrun by the next barge of money that shows up in 60 months.

[XU2424]

It is not just because of Baltimore but the guy had Latham freaking considering James Madison. I am sure if he can get him interested in JM he can get him back with XU.

Well man, sadly JMU offers a lot more then X does in a lot of college life aspects. X's main positives are our basketball tradition and basketball facilities. I think conference affiliation and lack of winning tradition is holding them back from pulling more recruits.
I am going to hold my judgment on this guy for awhile, although I like where he does a lot of his recruiting, Baltimore and NoVa (northern Virginia) are loaded with high school talent.

[XU99deuce]

I highly, I highly doubt Kevin Parrom was illegally contacted by Miller at Arizona. It's much more likely that a Big East team or two has.

[LadyMuskie]

This could be one of the biggest overreactions I have seen in a long while. It's not uncommon for players to look elsewhere when a coach leaves. And not just those coming in, but the ones that have already been in the program. Just because it's happening here doesn't mean it's the end of the world.

And there's no way to put this on Mack. If he lost one of his own incoming recruits, it might be a reason to worry. But these are kids that he probably didn't have too much contact with. Book and Sean probably did most of the communicating with these kids so they really don't have an idea about Mack and what he's like. And Latham and 'spoon decommitted before Mack was even the head coach. He did talk to Parrom a couple times, but he was in a position of basically trying to recruit a kid and get a commitment in a couple phone calls. I don't like the chances for any coach trying to do that.

So, basically, there's no reason to get concerned that Mack was the wrong hire based on anything that has happened so far.

I don't think I was overreacting, because I never said Mack was the wrong hire. In fact, I think he was the right guy for the job, which I had said in other posts. I was advocating for keeping it in house instead of getting another coach from another program who would use X as a stepping stone.

All I was saying in my post was that I do think it is a little worrisome that we are behind in the recruiting game for upcoming classes. We are facing the possibility that we will have a year without a senior class. I'm not advocating jumping ship or firing anyone or blaming anyone (well, other than Miller). I was hopeful that Mack would be able to convince some of our recruits to stay at X. He wasn't and I'm guessing that that the relationship with these young men didn't click. I understand who was recruiting these guys and I understand that Mack didn't have much to do with those recruits, but as stophorseabuse mentioned, we are currently behind in our recruiting classes because of decommits. I don't, by any means, think that Mack can't or won't recruit high calibar players. If I remember correctly, he was instrumental in getting Frease here, so he can recruit.

We were all quick to point out that Miller had a rough job ahead of him at Arizona because they had missed out on several recruiting classes. Since he is cleaning us out we are going to have some recruiting class issues simply because Mack doesn't have the time to make it up. He is facing an uphill recruiting battle just because of timing.

I'm sorry if you think I was advocating against Mack, because that was never my intention. I'm excited to see Mack take over, but I am worried for our future because we are missing a recruiting class. I don't think it would matter who was our head coach, but since it is Mack it is his challenge to face!

[xubrew]

i really don't like getting up on my soap box, but that doesn't mean i'm not going to do it.

i think there are too many xavier fans that just want to feel miserable about this, and look for reasons to do so. it's not THAT big of a deal. letting him out of his LOI was definitely the right thing to do, and it doesn't set us back all that much, if at all. i would have loved to have him and i think he would have contributed to the program, but there are other players that can contribute just as much with the same opportunity.

shaquille thomas and jason morris are both currently ranked among the top ten high school small fowards for the class of 2010, and both are still considering xavier. maybe parrom's departure (who wouldn't have started or played all that much next year anyway) means we end up getting one of these two players. maybe thomas or morris (or someone else) will go on to have a big career for us, whereas had we held parrom to his LOI, it would have denied them the chance to even come to xavier.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=4&cfg=bb&pid=43&yr=2010

dayton fans still get all bent out of shape over trent meacham and talk about how it set them back two years. i always laugh when i read that, but when i see similiar talk on a xavier site it's not nearly as funny to me. if we're still complaining about this and talking about how great we would have been had miller not left, and all the players we could have had if miller had stayed a year from now, i'm going to be very very very dissapointned.

if we go through a setback, as far as i'm concerned it doesn't have nearly as much to do with miller as it has to do with xavier's inability to move on as a program without him. i think this is a strong program, and unlike most people who are forecasting doomsday, i'm actually EXPECTING everything to work out and for xavier to continue to be as successful as we have been. i'm honestly not that worried about parrom, or about the 2010 class. i never have been. i'm EXPECTING that we'll still get good players with tons of potential. they may not be the exact same people, but i suspect they'll be able to contribute just as much as some of those who have backed out. i was sad to see miller go, but it had nothing to do with me feelign that the future of the program was in jeopardy or that we'd go through a massive setback. i just don't feel like that's going to happen. i don't think our future has been dismantled. i'm not miserable. i'm not worried. i'm actually quite confident that we're going to be just fine. every opportunity we had under miller to continue to succeed and grow still exists. if we don't take advantage of them, that's our own fault. if we have an attitude that was any different from that (and i don't think we do), THEN i'd be miserable, worried, and looking for reasons to continue to feel that way.

[danaandvictory]

We are facing the possibility that we will have a year without a senior class.

Not really. Lyons and Walsh will be seniors in 2012-13 even if we sign no one this offseason.

I'm actually okay with that. Seems like we've got ample depth next year (assuming Brown is back) and I'd rather not hand out a scholarship to a lower-caliber player just to have an extra body around.

[drudy23]

Gives more credence to the fact that recruits do indeed go to schools for the coaches and not the schools. These coaches promise these kids the world to get them in the door...and they follow those promises like puppies. The "Xavier Way" gets instilled in these kids over 4 years...they don't come here for it.

The cynical part of me (which is basically most of me) thinks that coaches lure kids not only to play ball, but the promises they make to them after they graduate (jobs, money). I would bet that if you followed around a big-level coach on the recruiting trail, there would be at least 5 things said everyday that would make you raise your eyebrows. It's a complete rat race.

That being said, we are losing out on some good recruits...some damn good recruits. And there's no guarantee Mack and his staff will lure the same quality player in the future. Mack will be under a lot of pressure to improve this program. It will not be easy as Miller brought in multiple sources of talent this school has never seen. That's hard to improve upon.

[vee4xu]

X has had enough transfers over the past decade, so who is to say how many of these guys would have stuck here. Recruiting 16-18 year old young men is dicey business any way it's sliced. Sometimes it works out great, other times not so much, notwithstanding who is coaching the team.

[vee4xu]

Gives more credence to the fact that recruits do indeed go to schools for the coaches and not the schools. These coaches promise these kids the world to get them in the door...and they follow those promises like puppies. The "Xavier Way" gets instilled in these kids over 4 years...they don't come here for it.

The cynical part of me (which is basically most of me) thinks that coaches lure kids not only to play ball, but the promises they make to them after they graduate (jobs, money). I would bet that if you followed around a big-level coach on the recruiting trail, there would be at least 5 things said everyday that would make you raise your eyebrows. It's a complete rat race.

That being said, we are losing out on some good recruits...some damn good recruits. And there's no guarantee Mack and his staff will lure the same quality player in the future. Mack will be under a lot of pressure to improve this program. It will not be easy as Miller brought in multiple sources of talent this school has never seen. That's hard to improve upon.

When Miller was hired five years ago as head coach, did you know how good his recruiting success was going to be? If you say yes, I'll never believe you.

[Xman95]

That being said, we are losing out on some good recruits...some damn good recruits. And there's no guarantee Mack and his staff will lure the same quality player in the future. Mack will be under a lot of pressure to improve this program. It will not be easy as Miller brought in multiple sources of talent this school has never seen. That's hard to improve upon.

Miller was also able to capitalize on the Elite 8 run that the team just had before he took over. He was the fifth coach in a line of coaches that kept improving the program. It's not like he came in on the ground floor and built Xavier Basketball from scratch. Yes, he brought in a level of talent we hadn't seen on a consistent basis. But he did it by using the program that was behind him.

Chris Mack comes into a similar situation. He's the next Head Coach of a program on the rise. He has a tremendous product to sell to recruits and, like Miller, he has numbers/tournament success to back it up. Honestly, if Chris and his assistants aren't capable of bringing in talent equal to or better than what we have been seeing, they're terrible recruiters. And from what we have seen with Mack and heard about guys like Steele and Ranson, I don't think that's the case. So we'll be just fine when it comes to recruits.

[Xman95]

I don't think I was overreacting, because I never said Mack was the wrong hire. In fact, I think he was the right guy for the job, which I had said in other posts. I was advocating for keeping it in house instead of getting another coach from another program who would use X as a stepping stone.

All I was saying in my post was that I do think it is a little worrisome that we are behind in the recruiting game for upcoming classes. We are facing the possibility that we will have a year without a senior class. I'm not advocating jumping ship or firing anyone or blaming anyone (well, other than Miller). I was hopeful that Mack would be able to convince some of our recruits to stay at X. He wasn't and I'm guessing that that the relationship with these young men didn't click. I understand who was recruiting these guys and I understand that Mack didn't have much to do with those recruits, but as stophorseabuse mentioned, we are currently behind in our recruiting classes because of decommits. I don't, by any means, think that Mack can't or won't recruit high calibar players. If I remember correctly, he was instrumental in getting Frease here, so he can recruit.

We were all quick to point out that Miller had a rough job ahead of him at Arizona because they had missed out on several recruiting classes. Since he is cleaning us out we are going to have some recruiting class issues simply because Mack doesn't have the time to make it up. He is facing an uphill recruiting battle just because of timing.

I'm sorry if you think I was advocating against Mack, because that was never my intention. I'm excited to see Mack take over, but I am worried for our future because we are missing a recruiting class. I don't think it would matter who was our head coach, but since it is Mack it is his challenge to face!

Perhaps my wording that we shouldn't get worried that "Mack was the wrong hire" wasn't the best choice. I was just saying that your original post seemed to be too worried about Mack missing out on some things that he really had no control over. The things that unfolded after Miller's departure were beyond Mack's reach until he was named HC.


I want to say that if Parrom doesn't want to be here then good riddance, but I really think he would have been an asset to our team, and if he changes his mind I think we should welcome him with open arms! With each passing day we seem to be losing more ground in the all important recruiting game. I'm not blaming Mack by any means, but something is not clicking with him and the recruits. I realize Book was our go to guy on the East coast, but its making me very nervous for our future that he can't convince the recruits to stay on board who had already committed. I'm not saying I have no faith in Mack, but stophorseabuse is right - he has a hell of a job ahead of him. I'm hoping that once he has his staff in place, things will turn around, but in the meantime, I don't think its wrong to be a little worried.

Those are the things that I think were a bit much. With each passing day? It hasn't even been a week since the guy was introduced. I'm pretty sure he'll still have strong recruits for 2010.

Something's not clicking? Two guys pulled out before he was hired and the other he has only had a chance to have a couple conversations with...after Parrom talked to Sean and Book more times than we know. Mack "clicks" just fine with these kids. That's why so many of them wanted him to get the job and why guys like Frease (as you mentioned), Redford, etc. came to Xavier.

I'm not sure why you would be nervous that he can't convince the recruits to stay on board. Again, two backed out before he was the HC and he hasn't built a relationship with them yet. Many, many times - if not a large majority - a student goes to a school because of the relationships he has with the recruiter/coach of a university. Mack didn't have that relationship with the guys who are backing out. And, unfortunately, it's tough to build that in four days. So there's no reason to be nervous that he can't convince recruits to stay when, in truth, he hasn't had enough time to actually show them why they should still be at X. Now, if we start seeing multiple transfers...

[LadyMuskie]

Looking back on it, you're right, I probably could've worded my opinion on the matter better. I still think Mack has an uphill battle to fight as far as recruits are concerned, and in my opinion, I do think that when it comes to recruiting every day is crucial. In the end, I hope you're right and we don't see any lingering effects from losing these recruits. I want to be cheering X in to at least the second weekend of every NCAA tourney in the foreseeable future.:)

[Xman95]

Looking back on it, you're right, I probably could've worded my opinion on the matter better. I still think Mack has an uphill battle to fight as far as recruits are concerned, and in my opinion, I do think that when it comes to recruiting every day is crucial. In the end, I hope you're right and we don't see any lingering effects from losing these recruits. I want to be cheering X in to at least the second weekend of every NCAA tourney in the foreseeable future.:)

Actually, after my last post I read yours again (probably the third or fourth time) and I did realize that what you were trying to say might have been different than what I was getting out of it. I'm guessing that you were basically saying that losing Parrom, Latham and 'spoon could be a hit to the program and that's what you were concerned about, not so much that Mack couldn't or didn't have the chance to keep them. And, from that angle, would agree with you.

But, ultimately, I think Mack will make us forget all about the last couple weeks and the hits we have taken in recruiting. I fully expect the 2010 class to be just as good as we anticipated, if not better. 2009 might be different being that there's so little time left to recover. But there's still hope that we won't go empty with that one.

When it comes to adding talent, I have complete faith in Mack and the guys he's bringing in.

[SixFig]

After Matta left, didn't Duncan pull out of his LOI only to get back in...or was it my imagination.

[Xman95]

After Matta left, didn't Duncan pull out of his LOI only to get back in...or was it my imagination.

I pulled my LOI playing basketball the other day. I think I'm out 2-4 weeks. (Actually, I have not played ball in a couple years and I have the expanding gut to prove it. If there was such a thing as a LOI in the human body, mine has probably suffered from atrophy to the point that it is no longer in existence. Even if it were it would now be insulated by so much gut fat that it will never again be found.)

[Juice]

What is everyone's opinion on whether X will sign someone from the 09 class of lesser talent than X is used to (but hopes can develop) to make sure there is not a hole in this class or will Mack just pocket the scholarships and hope to use them on the 2010 class?

Considering that last year's class was so big in numbers and the fact that Walsh and Lyons were held back, I don't think having no one coming in is that big of a deal, but I just hate to see open scholarships.

[XU 87]

I am completely against just handing out a scholarship because we have one (or two) available. Prosser used to do that and we got Obi Harris, Nixon and Marcus Mason. You can't build a top program by giving scholarships to guys who can't play.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Sorry, norm, but if you ask me that's extremely wishful thinking. Parrom did the courtesy of mentioning XU as still in the running, but if he really was still considering X, would he be so quick to completely opt out of his LOI?

Maybe. He may just want to be able to go visit other places which he would have not otherwise been able to do. But I agree in thinking that he wont end up at X.

[Xman95]

What is everyone's opinion on whether X will sign someone from the 09 class of lesser talent than X is used to (but hopes can develop) to make sure there is not a hole in this class or will Mack just pocket the scholarships and hope to use them on the 2010 class?

Considering that last year's class was so big in numbers and the fact that Walsh and Lyons were held back, I don't think having no one coming in is that big of a deal, but I just hate to see open scholarships.

I don't see us using it on a HS kid who is a lesser talent. However, if there's still a JUCO that Chris and Co. feel could come in and be a solid back-up big, I could see that happening. It would be a guy to give us minutes in two years when we would have no legit back-up at the 4/5, thus not putting too much pressure on any freshmen we have that year.

[xuwin]

What is everyone's opinion on whether X will sign someone from the 09 class of lesser talent than X is used to (but hopes can develop) to make sure there is not a hole in this class or will Mack just pocket the scholarships and hope to use them on the 2010 class?

Considering that last year's class was so big in numbers and the fact that Walsh and Lyons were held back, I don't think having no one coming in is that big of a deal, but I just hate to see open scholarships.

Xavier will have the same number of scholarship players available next year that they had this year without the addition of another player. They lose Raymond, Anderson and Parrom and they gain Lyons, Crawford and Walsh. They may go with more 3 guard lineups which may not be bad since Mack wants to run more anyway.

[The Artist]

Xavier will have the same number of scholarship players available next year that they had this year without the addition of another player. They lose Raymond, Anderson and Parrom and they gain Lyons, Crawford and Walsh. They may go with more 3 guard lineups which may not be bad since Mack wants to run more anyway.

I'm pretty sure Crawford was counted as a scholarship player last year, especially because I doubt he paid his own way.