Game Thread: Xavier v Villanova University (1/14/2025)

[paulxu]

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CINCINNATI --- The Xavier University Musketeers, 10-7 overall and 2-4 in the BIG EAST Conference, host the Villanova University Wildcats, 11-6 overall and 4-2 in the BIG EAST, on Tuesday night at 6:30 p.m. at Cintas Center. Xavier is coming off a win at DePaul on Saturday, while Villanova lost at St. John's on Saturday.

Xavier graduate student Zach Freemantle has averaged a team-high 19.3 points and a team-high 6.7 rebounds since returning from injury. Freemantle missed XU's first three BIG EAST games (at UConn on Dec. 18 and vs. Marquette on Dec. 21 and Seton Hall on Dec. 31).

THE MATCHUP

XAVIER UNIVERSITY MUSKETEERS (10-7, 2-5 BIG EAST)
VILLANOVA UNIVERSITY WILDCATS (11-6, 4-2 BIG EAST)
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 14, 2025 6:30 P.M. ET
CINTAS CENTER IN CINCINNATI, OHIO

TV, RADIO AND LIVE STATS

TV/Stream: FS1 with play-by-play from Connor Onion and analysis from LaPhonso Ellis.
Xavier Radio: 700 WLW with play-by-play from Xavier Hall of Famer Joe Sunderman ('79) and analysis from XU all-time leading scorer and Hall of Famer Byron Larkin ('88). XU broadcast is also available on the Varsity Network and on Sirius XM.

Live Stats: Media stats at Statbroadcast.com (http://Statbroadcast.com) and fan stats at GoXavier.com (http://GoXavier.com)

[Xville]

X opens as -3.5 favorites. Hmm

[Jumpin_Jamal_Forever]

Because we are on a winning streak and coming off a decisive victory at that!

[xuphan]

Because we are on a winning streak and coming off a decisive victory at that!

Pumped for this game! On a one game winning streak looking to make it two. Time to go on a run!

[GoMuskies]

Because we are on a winning streak and coming off a decisive victory at that!

Streak!!!!

[Xville]

Excited for the game. It's time to make some noise, and I went ahead and grabbed X at -2.5. Lets go streaking

[drudy23]

I took X on the moneyline. I don't bet often, and when I do, I usually lose, so take that for what it's worth.

[bleedXblue]

1. Will likely be a close game
2. Dixon will get the ball late in the game for Nova
3. Who gets the ball late for us and will we melt down the stretch again?

[Three Point Pete]

Excited for the game. It's time to make some noise, and I went ahead and grabbed X at -2.5. Lets go streakingI'm afraid to touch this one. I'm gonna save my action for Mavs vs. Nuggets. But, I was considering taking Nova and the points, thinking X wins by 2.

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[GoMuskies]

A positive start! Rare!

[Xville]

Look really good. D playing tough!

[xuphan]

Look really good. D playing tough!

I agree! Gotta keep it up.

[GoMuskies]

McKnight's ball was coming off, so Free didn't cost us 2.

[GoMuskies]

Look really good. D playing tough!

So much for that.

Hugley is unplayable.

[Xville]

Ugh giving up offensive boards again

[xuphan]

And just like that this big lead is gone.

[GoMuskies]

Getting physically manhandled and shooting terrible shots terribly. Not a great combo.

[Xville]

Too much foul trouble

[Xville]

X misses so many wide open threes

[GoMuskies]

X misses so many wide open threes

Some pretty bad, early shots. The wrong guys shooting them a lot of times, too. But we can't win if we don't shoot well. A miracle to only be down two.

[GoMuskies]

Doesn't help that Free is missing twos he usually makes.

[Xville]

Outside of the first five minutes, this team hasn’t been able to make anything

[GoMuskies]

Outscored 24-9 since 13-4 lead

[xuphan]

Outscored 24-9 since 13-4 lead

I am at a loss for words. At some point some senior leadership is needed.

[Xville]

How many wide open shots are we
Gonna miss? 2s and 3s and most aren’t even close to going in.

[GoMuskies]

This Xavier team is hot garbage. It is what it is.

[Xville]

I am at a loss for words. At some point some senior leadership is needed.

Not sure what they can do about missing a ton of open shots? I mean I guess we could make them? That’d be nice

[bjf123]

Absolutely pathetic.


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[GoMuskies]

Basket won't count, but still hilarious incompetence.

[Xville]

What garbage defense. Are you effing kidding me? Why is Maddox on fucking Dixon? That’s shit coaching

[bjf123]

Basket won't count, but still hilarious incompetence.

They counted it.


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[GoMuskies]

They counted it.


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They'll waive it off.

[bjf123]

They'll waive it off.

Yep. Just updated the scoreboard at Cintas.


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[Xville]

Getting real tired of this shit. An absolute must win game against a team not any more talented than you are, and you suck major dick after the first five minutes. Fuck

[xuphan]

Can we just cut some of the NIL deals early at this point and save some money?

[GoMuskies]

against a team not any more talented than you are

I'm not so sure. Dixon is clearly the best player on the floor, and they are just way, way stronger than us at seemingly every position.

[SkyWalker]

Last year's crappy team was better than this team. They at least competed,

[Xville]

Can we just cut some of the NIL deals early at this point and save some money?

The misses on Maddox and hugley really really stand out. It’s shocking how bad Maddox is.

[nickgyp]

Some pretty bad, early shots. The wrong guys shooting them a lot of times, too. But we can't win if we don't shoot well. A miracle to only be down two.

Enthusiasm marginally better but team has flatlined as far as improvement. Missed open threes and free throws.

[xuphan]

The misses on Maddox and hugley really really stand out. It’s shocking how bad Maddox is.

Sean not being able to bring in a true Big East post player in the last two portals really stands out to me. He has to prioritize a Big East big in the summer or we should be looking for a new coach. Steele got ran out of town for less. Still think Miller is miles better than Steele as a coach but he isn’t showing why we are paying him the type of money he is getting.

[Xville]

That’s not a foul ref

[Xville]

Thank gawd for conwell

[Xville]

Going to struggle on offense with conwell having to sit. Someone needs to step the f up

[Three Point Pete]

Could it be McK!

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[Xville]

Last thing I want is hunter shooting threes in a tight ballgame.

[Xville]

Seems like every single close loss this year… just unable to get over the hump enough

[Xville]

Dunk the damn ball swain

[xudash]

How many free throws have we missed?

[Xville]

How many free throws have we missed?

9-15. Pretty shitty.. especially in a rock fight where every point is absolutely critical

[xudash]

Dunk the damn ball swain

I think he heard you.

[Xville]

McKnight shooting a three there? Really? Shot selection come on

[XUBand]

Last 4 mins guarantees a loss again in a close game.

[Xville]

Crunch time. Will this team finally finish one or wilt like they have in close ones all year?

[Xville]

Uh ref? That’s a double dribble

[Xville]

Conwell!!!! Fucking stud

[drudy23]

Yeah the Conwell experience isn't working, we should cut him.

Morons.

[Three Point Pete]

Conwell!!!! Fucking studWhat he said

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[Xville]

Conwell again!!!!!

[Xville]

Hit your free throws!

[paulxu]

Announcer says no silly fouls.
Xavier commits silly foul.

[Xville]

Finally closed one out! Big time win. Can we put the stupid Ryan conwell discourse to bed now?

[XUBand]

Finally got a close one.

[paulxu]

OK then.

[drudy23]

Where's Xuperman?

Will he come clean and admit he's was off on his basketball acumen?

[Xavier]

Wasn’t someone just saying conwell was a bad contract? Thought they played good defense. Some boneheaded stuff, but a win they might not battle thru just 10 days ago.

[Three Point Pete]

Finally got a close one.Yep, the worm has turned!

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[GoMuskies]

I had to leave at halftime and go to church, so I have no earthly idea how we won that game after what I saw in the first half...but apparently I have to spend the rest of the season in church during games.

[Xville]

Wasn’t someone just saying conwell was a bad contract? Thought they played good defense. Some boneheaded stuff, but a win they might not battle thru just 10 days ago.

Yeah I agree. The defense was fantastic tonight. Figure out how the hell to win at Marquette and things start to get interesting

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Thriller on Tuesday night. Great win. I was so worried at halftime. One-man show by Conwell.

[Xville]

I had to leave at halftime and go to church, so I have no earthly idea how we won that game after what I saw in the first half...but apparently I have to spend the rest of the season in church during games.

Basically conwell saved the day on offense and the d was pretty damn good. The end

[xuphan]

Where's Xuperman?

Will he come clean and admit he's was off on his basketball acumen?

He hangs out on the political thread.

[Three Point Pete]

This game should have been more comfortable: make another couple FT and shoot 3 ball close to average.

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[XUGRAD80]

This game should have been more comfortable: make another couple FT and shoot 3 ball close to average.

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If they had shot the 3 closer to their average, they would have lost. They were 10/25…that’s 40%. They also shot 19/26 for FT’s. That’s 73%

[XUGRAD80]

I had to leave at halftime and go to church, so I have no earthly idea how we won that game after what I saw in the first half...but apparently I have to spend the rest of the season in church during games.

How? Ryan Conwell.

[Xville]

If they had shot the 3 closer to their average, they would have lost. They were 10/25…that’s 40%. They also shot 19/26 for FT’s. That’s 73%

Their average was 39% before the game started, so they shot about normal

[nickgyp]

Wasn’t someone just saying conwell was a bad contract? Thought they played good defense. Some boneheaded stuff, but a win they might not battle thru just 10 days ago.

Heck of a comeback and Conwell was simply great at the end. A win in spite of all the warts like missed free throws that made another loss likely. The streak of empty possessions after Villanova miscues was frustrating to watch but they found a way to win which says a lot. The remaining games will call for more completeness that do not require last minute heroics. Should be an interesting ride.

[Three Point Pete]

If they had shot the 3 closer to their average, they would have lost. They were 10/25…that’s 40%. They also shot 19/26 for FT’s. That’s 73%My bad!

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[xudash]

I had to leave at halftime and go to church, so I have no earthly idea how we won that game after what I saw in the first half...but apparently I have to spend the rest of the season in church during games.

Seriously, you might have to do that!

[Xavier]

They show really good flashes. Can’t see em going full 40, but eliminate the really bad/dumbass plays. That’s a must if they want to beat any of the top teams

[Xville]

Find a way to beat Marquette and the rest of this season gets real interesting

[JTG]

My only question is in the last 30 or so seconds why wasn't McK forcing them to pick up the inbound to burn off another 3 or 4 seconds per possession?

[Xuperman]

Where's Xuperman?

Will he come clean and admit he's was off on his basketball acumen?

Yes. That performance makes it clear my concern was unfounded. I mistakenly misread his body language shown in the Georgetown/St Johns games. It appears it was nothing more than a momentary lapse of confidence.

No one could be happier with that performance than me....Conwell and Swain are solid All BE candidates for '25/26....if Miller can keep them.

It doesn't change a damn thing about the NIL/Portal poison potential. Until proven otherwise....Xavier will always be susceptible to more Des Claude disappointments.

[bjf123]

My only question is in the last 30 or so seconds why wasn't McK forcing them to pick up the inbound to burn off another 3 or 4 seconds per possession?

I was thinking the same thing. Had to be at Miller’s instruction.


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[Xavier]

Find a way to beat Marquette and the rest of this season gets real interesting

I don’t really think that’s likely, but maybe another 50% 3 point night could do it. I think it’s more likely we win at St. John’s, then home against UConn. Then it can get interesting.

I don’t see either happening, but I think they can snag one of the next 3. Won’t move the needle too much in terms of hope but it keeps the season barely alive, much like tonight. Losing tonight would’ve been final nail. Doesn’t make me more hopeful but at least there’s still slight optimism

[94GRAD]

Yes. That performance makes it clear my concern was unfounded. I mistakenly misread his body language shown in the Georgetown/St Johns games. It appears it was nothing more than a momentary lapse of confidence.

No one could be happier with that performance than me....Conwell and Swain are solid All BE candidates for '25/26....if Miller can keep them.

It doesn't change a damn thing about the NIL/Portal poison potential. Until proven otherwise....Xavier will always be susceptible to more Des Claude disappointments.

How many people need to say Des left because his inner circle wanted him to play point guard and Sean told him/them NO. We didn't lose Des because we couldn't afford him. PLEASE f!@#ing STOP!!!!

[Xavier]

For money or other reasons doesn’t matter, it still is a disappointing loss. And that will happen again- but it’s more bc of free transfer rule than money. Would solve a lot of “issues” having to still sit out a year

[Xavier]

Sean has made it somewhat clear he hasn’t been thrilled with the fans this year. He did say he doesn’t blame em, but again tonight mentioned without students we lose the game- and how having them back really helped bring Cintas back to life again.

As much as I like getting home earlier, the 6:30 start time has been tough for whatever reason. What’s everyone’s thoughts a couple years into that time slot?

[bjf123]

As much as I like getting home earlier, the 6:30 start time has been tough for whatever reason. What’s everyone’s thoughts a couple years into that time slot?


Hate it. I left work early today and still didn’t see the tip-off. Actually, I was in the building for tip-off, but was still in Duff’s finishing my dinner of a Quatman’s cheeseburger, since with the early start I don’t have time to eat at home. There will always be empty seats at tip-off for 6:30 games.

Maybe when I eventually retire, I won’t care since I’ll be able to leave with plenty of time to spare. Until then, hate the 6:30 starts.


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[Xuperman]

How many people need to say Des left because his inner circle wanted him to play point guard and Sean told him/them NO. We didn't lose Des because we couldn't afford him. PLEASE f!@#ing STOP!!!!

Why are you referring to me? There are some here that thinks USC offered more money, but I never commented on the why or how....nor do I care.

NIL was in the equation no matter how you slice it. It being a major disappointment is not debatable IMO.

[Section 200]

Sean has made it somewhat clear he hasn’t been thrilled with the fans this year. He did say he doesn’t blame em, but again tonight mentioned without students we lose the game- and how having them back really helped bring Cintas back to life again.

As much as I like getting home earlier, the 6:30 start time has been tough for whatever reason. What’s everyone’s thoughts a couple years into that time slot?

It was unfortunate that both Marquette and St John’s games were during Christmas break. I usually work until 530/6 and it’s a major struggle to get to Cintas by 630. But despite missing the first 2-3 minutes each game I’d rather the game start at 630 vs 830. The old 7pm starts were great.

[XUGRAD80]

My bad!

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Not really…you were partially correct. If we just look at the 1st half both of your observations are correct. If you just look at Free, he was 0/3 on his 3point attempts. And, both he and McKnight missed 2 FT attempts during the game, 4/6 and 2/4 respectively…6/10 combined.

Xavier shot only 40% for field goal attempts for the game, as it appeared that there was a lid on the basket for almost everyone other than Conwell. Especially in the 1st half. If everyone shoots at their normal pace for the whole game, X might win fairly easily, but that’s just part of the game. ‘Nova didn’t score nearly what they normally do either.

[CP05XU08CU13]

Sean has made it somewhat clear he hasn’t been thrilled with the fans this year. He did say he doesn’t blame em, but again tonight mentioned without students we lose the game- and how having them back really helped bring Cintas back to life again.

As much as I like getting home earlier, the 6:30 start time has been tough for whatever reason. What’s everyone’s thoughts a couple years into that time slot?

Put a winning product on the court, and you will have no problem with attendance. This may be considered a “fair weather” fan base by some, but people have busy lives and do not have the time/desire to watch mediocrity.

[XUGRAD80]

Put a winning product on the court, and you will have no problem with attendance. This may be considered a “fair weather” fan base by some, but people have busy lives and do not have the time/desire to watch mediocrity.

No doubt in my mind that the weather conditions are also a major factor on attendance. Especially for older fans or fans attending with young children cold and snowy conditions make attending evening games much less enjoyable.

[Xville]

Put a winning product on the court, and you will have no problem with attendance. This may be considered a “fair weather” fan base by some, but people have busy lives and do not have the time/desire to watch mediocrity.

Has little to do with attendance. Attendance is mostly fine. It has everything to do that without the students, the atmosphere has been shit in that arena.

I get people not being able to get there on time during the week or not being able to attend at all. What I don’t understand is attending and sitting on your hands which I have seen a ton this year.

[Olsingledigit]

No doubt in my mind that the weather conditions are also a major factor on attendance. Especially for older fans or fans attending with young children cold and snowy conditions make attending evening games much less enjoyable.

My friends and I come from Indianapolis to every home game. Over and back. This is our 41st year of doing so. No excuses for work, weather or anything else for not attending most games.

[XUGRAD80]

My friends and I come from Indianapolis to every home game. Over and back. This is our 41st year of doing so. No excuses for work, weather or anything else for not attending most games.

Nobody needs to make “excuses” to you or anyone else. You choosing to drive over from Indy is your choice, nothing more. Others choose to do something different with their time and money. Nobody needs to apologize for how they choose. That some people choose to not go out in weather doesn’t need to be justified to anyone. They shouldn’t be shamed for it, and it doesn’t make you and your friends superior to them either. Get over yourself.

[Xville]

Nobody needs to make “excuses” to you or anyone else. You choosing to drive over from Indy is your choice, nothing more. Others choose to do something different with their time and money. Nobody needs to apologize for how they choose. That some people choose to not go out in weather doesn’t need to be justified to anyone. They shouldn’t be shamed for it, and it doesn’t make you and your friends superior to them either. Get over yourself.

It’s fine if you choose to not go to the game or can’t because of prior commitments. Life happens and everyone is busy. However, it takes very minimal effort to then either sell or giveaway your tickets to an x fan. It seems a lot of the late folks or the ones not getting there are mostly high donor lower bowl people right behind the benches. It’s kinda shitty imo.

[drudy23]

Put a winning product on the court, and you will have no problem with attendance. This may be considered a “fair weather” fan base by some, but people have busy lives and do not have the time/desire to watch mediocrity.

I don't think fans are at this point yet. This is not a fair weather fanbase.

This lack of fans at 6:30pm is mostly operational. As I've mentioned a bunch of times, if you're going to play at 6:30pm on a weekday, and you still haven't really fixed the parking and ticket scanning fiasco, then a whole bunch of people aren't going to be in their seats at tip. That was fully evident again last night. It filled up slowly after that.

Thousands of people are stuck having to get to the games late because of stupid start times and ignored issues with parking and ticket scanning upon entrance. Some of this is squarely on X, and they are acting like it's not a thing.

[XUGRAD80]

It’s fine if you choose to not go to the game or can’t because of prior commitments. Life happens and everyone is busy. However, it takes very minimal effort to then either sell or giveaway your tickets to an x fan. It seems a lot of the late folks or the ones not getting there are mostly high donor lower bowl people right behind the benches. It’s kinda shitty imo.

Agreed, it’s pretty easy to get rid of tickets by either selling or giving them away.

[XUGRAD80]

Thousands of people are stuck having to get to the games late because of stupid start times and ignored issues with parking and ticket scanning upon entrance. Some of this is squarely on X, and they are acting like it's not a thing.

That’s not just a Xavier/Cintas problem either. I’ve had it happen in other arenas/stadiums too.

[X-band '01]

Sean has made it somewhat clear he hasn’t been thrilled with the fans this year. He did say he doesn’t blame em, but again tonight mentioned without students we lose the game- and how having them back really helped bring Cintas back to life again.

As much as I like getting home earlier, the 6:30 start time has been tough for whatever reason. What’s everyone’s thoughts a couple years into that time slot?

They've had 6:30 start times pretty much since joining the Big East. I wonder what will happen next year as more games not only get streamed on Peacock, but also end up on Turner (TBS/TNT/TruTV).

[X-band '01]

That’s not just a Xavier/Cintas problem either. I’ve had it happen in other arenas/stadiums too.

I haven't had many issues personally because I usually leave home 90 minutes prior to tip to get an early parking space, etc.

I also had no trouble getting through the lines for the DePaul game on Saturday. Of course, that may have had more to do with fewer fans going to their games...

[drudy23]

They've had 6:30 start times pretty much since joining the Big East. ).

But the parking and ticket issues weren't issues all those years either.

They've created this problem with the parking changes. If you can't get to the game 45 mins early (which obviously many people can't for 6:30pm games, because, you know, people have to work), it's an extra 25-30 mins getting in the door. That's why no one is in their seats at tip anymore.

The parking situation is the main culprit.

[JTG]

It's not just Cintas. I volunteer at a hospital with a Butler season ticket holder. She told me @ their last home game, her brother in law drove around for 30 minutes trying to find a parking spot. Gave up and drove home.

[drudy23]

It's not just Cintas. I volunteer at a hospital with a Butler season ticket holder. She told me @ their last home game, her brother in law drove around for 30 minutes trying to find a parking spot. Gave up and drove home.

I gave my tickets away last night because I knew I wasn't going to be able to leave until around 6pm. Any other year, I could leave 30 mins prior and be in my seat at tip.

Leaving at 6, I would have just been super frustrated sitting in stand-still traffic waiting my turn to be waived into my lot. It would have pissed me off to no end, and I would have been 30 mins late to the game. So instead of dealing with all that, I gave my tickets up. That's the reality the changed parking situation has caused.

And I'm as die hard as they come. I don't just skip games for no reason typically.

[drudy23]

It's not just Cintas. I volunteer at a hospital with a Butler season ticket holder. She told me @ their last home game, her brother in law drove around for 30 minutes trying to find a parking spot. Gave up and drove home.

But it didn't used to be this way. It has NEVER been an issue.

Their operational changes created this problem for their fans, and it seems to be "oh well, deal with it". Not cool, especially if you're going to schedule a bunch of early weekday games.

Ample amounts of parking isn't the problem, the new flow is.

[GoMuskies]

I gave my tickets away last night because I knew I wasn't going to be able to leave until around 6pm. Any other year, I could leave 30 mins prior and be in my seat at tip.

Leaving at 6, I would have just been super frustrated sitting in stand-still traffic waiting my turn to be waived into my lot. It would have pissed me off to no end, and I would have been 30 mins late to the game. So instead of dealing with all that, I gave my tickets up. That's the reality the changed parking situation has caused.

And I'm as die hard as they come. I don't just skip games for no reason typically.

You had no way of knowing, but it turns out sitting in traffic would have been preferable to watching the first half, and you'd have still been able to see the second half. Little did anyone know they were actually doing you a favor!

[D-West & PO-Z]

How many people need to say Des left because his inner circle wanted him to play point guard and Sean told him/them NO. We didn't lose Des because we couldn't afford him. PLEASE f!@#ing STOP!!!!

You're shouting into a void with this one. Hett and some others will state anything as fact to fit their narrative, despite the evidence.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Sean has made it somewhat clear he hasn’t been thrilled with the fans this year. He did say he doesn’t blame em, but again tonight mentioned without students we lose the game- and how having them back really helped bring Cintas back to life again.

As much as I like getting home earlier, the 6:30 start time has been tough for whatever reason. What’s everyone’s thoughts a couple years into that time slot?

The start time isn't a problem for me and it allows my young kids to attend more games (my 5yo boy came last night and is very into the games), however, despite leaving with plenty of time I didn't get to my seats until 13 mins left in the 1st half because of the absolute shit show parking. I came in the back the way I normally do and whoever was directing traffic was doing a horrific job.

I hadn't has any issues the last couple games (I missed last home game) but last night the parking guys were horrific again. This new company seems to be doing an absolute shit job.

[X-band '01]

It's not just Cintas. I volunteer at a hospital with a Butler season ticket holder. She told me @ their last home game, her brother in law drove around for 30 minutes trying to find a parking spot. Gave up and drove home.


The start time isn't a problem for me and it allows my young kids to attend more games (my 5yo boy came last night and is very into the games), however, despite leaving with plenty of time I didn't get to my seats until 13 mins left in the 1st half because of the absolute shit show parking. I came in the back the way I normally do and whoever was directing traffic was doing a horrific job.

I hadn't has any issues the last couple games (I missed last home game) but last night the parking guys were horrific again. This new company seems to be doing an absolute shit job.

I wonder if the same parking company was contracted by both schools. I last went to Butler 2 years ago because it took me forever to get into their parking garage (wait was about 25-30 minutes). I just chalked it up to poor planning on my part at the time; didn't see the first 4 minutes of the game where Xavier peed down both legs.

And then it took an hour to get out of the garage, adding insult to what was already a bad night.

I will be going to Philly in a few weeks for the rematch with Nova; I'd imagine they'll at least have a more professional staff with the game being at Wells Fargo and not the Pavilion.

[drudy23]

The start time isn't a problem for me and it allows my young kids to attend more games (my 5yo boy came last night and is very into the games), however, despite leaving with plenty of time I didn't get to my seats until 13 mins left in the 1st half because of the absolute shit show parking. I came in the back the way I normally do and whoever was directing traffic was doing a horrific job.

I hadn't has any issues the last couple games (I missed last home game) but last night the parking guys were horrific again. This new company seems to be doing an absolute shit job.

They tried something new - fine.

It's not working, yet they don't seem to care. And then the coach and others start to comment on empty seats???

Cmon man - this isn't the fan's doing. Perhaps someone should actually give a legit effort into fixing the problem, especially for the early weekday start times where it can be logistically impossible for working people to leave early enough for this to not be an issue.

[webxu]

Its not only the new flow.. its the digital parking passes that take too long or dont scan at all. The hanging placards were fine and so much quicker, couple that with the flow changes, its terrible.

[XUGRAD80]

I went to the NKU-UC game last month. I literally live 5mins from the NKU campus. I left home 30 mins before the game and didn’t get to my seats until 15mims after the game had started. The parking people…..local/campus police directing traffic….had no idea what they were doing. A complete s*** show. I could have walked there faster. I’ve had similar problems getting into, and especially out of, Riverbend Music Center. 10 mins from my house and I usually leave 1-1 1/2 hours before any show. Went to the UC-Kansas game last weekend (c’mon, how often do you get a chance to watch a blue blood like Kansas in person?). Got in fine. Took me over 1/2 hour to get out of the garage. Literally sat in place without moving for 25 minutes.

Parking seems to be a problem almost anywhere I go that has a big crowd.

[drudy23]

I went to the NKU-UC game last month. I literally live 5mins from the NKU campus. I left home 30 mins before the game and didn’t get to my seats until 15mims after the game had started. The parking people…..local/campus police directing traffic….had no idea what they were doing. A complete s*** show. I could have walked there faster. I’ve had similar problems getting into, and especially out of, Riverbend Music Center. 10 mins from my house and I usually leave 1-1 1/2 hours before any show. Went to the UC-Kansas game last weekend (c’mon, how often do you get a chance to watch a blue blood like Kansas in person?). Got in fine. Took me over 1/2 hour to get out of the garage. Literally sat in place without moving for 25 minutes.

Parking seems to be a problem almost anywhere I go that has a big crowd.

But again, this was never a problem at Cintas! It's not like Xavier is bulldozing the parking lots and there's nowhere to park.

Everything is the same, and THEY CREATED the issue. Don't blame the fans for not showing up on time. How about fix the problem.

[XUGRAD80]

But again, this was never a problem at Cintas! It's not like Xavier is bulldozing the parking lots and there's nowhere to park.

Everything is the same, and THEY CREATED the issue. Don't blame the fans for not showing up on time. How about fix the problem.

Agreed. They can’t fix the problem by changing the start times because TV dictates that, but they certainly can change how the parking operates.

[JTG]

Maybe everyone should email Christopher and cc Miller that parking is a massive shit show.

[drudy23]

Maybe everyone should email Christopher and cc Miller that parking is a massive shit show.

I would be shocked if people haven't done that.

I will also say that the sections that have the most empty seats are the most expensive tickets. I'm guessing those people aren't happy.

[hoopster68]

But again, this was never a problem at Cintas! It's not like Xavier is bulldozing the parking lots and there's nowhere to park.

Everything is the same, and THEY CREATED the issue. Don't blame the fans for not showing up on time. How about fix the problem.

Does anyone know how many parking spaces, if any, will be lost to the Med School?

[xudash]

Does anyone know how many parking spaces, if any, will be lost to the Med School?

That number would be zero, at least post construction.

[Olsingledigit]

Nobody needs to make “excuses” to you or anyone else. You choosing to drive over from Indy is your choice, nothing more. Others choose to do something different with their time and money. Nobody needs to apologize for how they choose. That some people choose to not go out in weather doesn’t need to be justified to anyone. They shouldn’t be shamed for it, and it doesn’t make you and your friends superior to them either. Get over yourself.

This part of the thread is about why attendance is bad. So now you respond to me making excuses as to why people can do other things with their time. If you’re a fan and have tickets make an effort to go. If not fine don’t go at all. But don’t make excuses for fair weather fans.

[XUGRAD80]

……..making excuses as to why people can do other things with their time. If you’re a fan and have tickets make an effort to go. If not fine don’t go at all. But don’t make excuses for fair weather fans.

You see things as excuses that I see as reasons. Very judgmental on your part IMO. I prefer to not judge and just look at causes without any prejudice. I don’t really think that what efforts you make to get to the games has any bearing at all. Especially on those that don’t make the same effort. You telling them on this board that they need to not make “excuses” brings to my mind the picture of an old man standing outside yelling a clouds. You telling ME what I can and cannot say, I can only shake my head about. Very sad.