Sign of the times

[MHettel]

I was just wondering about something so I took just a minute to research it.

In 5 years as XU head coach during his first stint, he coached a total of 27 scholarship players

In his current 3 year stint, he’s coached 29 players.

Just thought that was interesting and I wonder how that impacts a coaches ability to implement a system and create an identity.

Seems like maybe it matters

[drudy23]

He inherited chaos while chaos (NIL) began to surround him.

I just want our program back. Someone please bring it back.

[bleedXblue]

Chaos? Didn't he inherit a pretty good team?

He's recruited poorly and ALL programs have been impacted by NIL.

[xubrew]

I was just wondering about something so I took just a minute to research it.

In 5 years as XU head coach during his first stint, he coached a total of 27 scholarship players

In his current 3 year stint, he’s coached 29 players.

Just thought that was interesting and I wonder how that impacts a coaches ability to implement a system and create an identity.

Seems like maybe it matters

The NCAA has been turned into fantasy sports in terms of how much roster turnover there now is from year to year. It's just a plug and play system. The NCAA had chances to put the guardrails in place. They really did. But, they chose not to because they failed to see how all of their power and control was going to be taken away even though any blind man could have seen that.

And, it will continue to change. I've said this before, but I think the eligibility rules are the next thing to go. Pretty soon there won't be any. The courts have already ruled that the players are employees. A judge has already given Diego Pavia and injunction saying he can continue to play even though he's already maxed out the number of seasons, and pretty soon that will turn into more than just an injunction. Within the next five years (and probably sooner) the courts will likely rule that the NCAA has no legal right to tell universities who they can and cannot hire. Players are employees, and schools can hire whoever they want for as long as they want. They won't even have to be students. We will have guys in their early 30s playing their 11th season for their 9th school and they will have never even taken a class. That's where this is going.

There is a way to stop it, but the NCAA is doing exactly what they did with the NIL situation and the transfer situation, and that is absolutely nothing. Everyone's attitude is once again "Oh no! No way that will ever happen!"

Uhhhh....YES IT WILL!!!!

[SkyWalker]

The NCAA has been turned into fantasy sports in terms of how much roster turnover there now is from year to year. It's just a plug and play system. The NCAA had chances to put the guardrails in place. They really did. But, they chose not to because they failed to see how all of their power and control was going to be taken away even though any blind man could have seen that.

And, it will continue to change. I've said this before, but I think the eligibility rules are the next thing to go. Pretty soon there won't be any. The courts have already ruled that the players are employees. A judge has already given Diego Pavia and injunction saying he can continue to play even though he's already maxed out the number of seasons, and pretty soon that will turn into more than just an injunction. Within the next five years (and probably sooner) the courts will likely rule that the NCAA has no legal right to tell universities who they can and cannot hire. Players are employees, and schools can hire whoever they want for as long as they want. They won't even have to be students. We will have guys in their early 30s playing their 11th season for their 9th school and they will have never even taken a class. That's where this is going.

There is a way to stop it, but the NCAA is doing exactly what they did with the NIL situation and the transfer situation, and that is absolutely nothing. Everyone's attitude is once again "Oh no! No way that will ever happen!"

Uhhhh....YES IT WILL!!!!


Not to be overly negative, but if all this happens...

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.glzLaKe1Glnu5_EgR4DsuQHaJT?w=155&h=196&c=7&r=0&o=5&dpr=3.3&pid=1.7

[xubrew]

Not to be overly negative, but if all this happens...

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.glzLaKe1Glnu5_EgR4DsuQHaJT?w=155&h=196&c=7&r=0&o=5&dpr=3.3&pid=1.7

It will certainly have a completely different feel. I can’t get the highly ironic thought out of my head that key players at big programs will be told “we’re not paying you to take classes. Basketball (or football) is what you need to focus on!” Yet it will still be called college athletics.

[nickgyp]

It will certainly have a completely different feel. I can’t get the highly ironic thought out of my head that key players at big programs will be told “we’re not paying you to take classes. Basketball (or football) is what you need to focus on!” Yet it will still be called college athletics.

I can envision the day where the “have” schools distance themselves from the “have-nots”. The latter schools won’t be able to compete nor should they try. Economically, it just isn’t feasible. And maybe, just maybe, this will lead the “‘have-nots” return closer to a model of athletic competition that resembles student-athletes where local rivalries and less expenditures suffice. It is great to see Xavier compete with Michigan and Ohio State but quite honestly, beating UC, Miami and Dayton in years gone by was equally enjoyable. A return to those days just isn’t such a bad thing if that is all that Xavier can afford.

Less mercenary athletes can be a good thing for some schools.