The Ryan Conwell investment.

[Xuperman]

Conwell was far and away Coach Miller's prized 2024 signing in the wake of his stellar Indiana St. sophomore season. Not only that, he was not a "rental"....he arrived with TWO years of eligibility remaining. It could be argued that Miller was extremely confident that Ryan would be the "tip of the spear" for program success in those 2 seasons.....basically ALL IN.

It appears that something has gone terribly wrong.

His last 4 games, the 3 loses especially, are nothing close statistically to his previous FIFTY (4/4/24?).

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/5107157/ryan-conwell
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/5107157/type/mens-college-basketball/year/2024

This is not a "slump"....Injury? Not even rumors of any.

Obviously there is a lot of season left and any ball he plays for that duration will be for X, although reduced PT or injury is always possible. OR, he could do a quick 180° and perform to Miller's high expectations. However, if this continues to be reality....his return for next season has to be in question.

[Xville]

I don't see how you can say this is not a slump? I think it’s simply a shooting slump and he’s probably pressing quite a bit.

He’s not athletic enough at this level to breakdown a defense so shooting is his weapon. That weapon has failed him in 3 of the last 4 games. Hopefully he snaps out of it quickly.

[Xuperman]

Because I suspect something else is going on.

[nuts4xu]

It's a tough stretch. Call it a slump if you will, but his track record leads me to believe he will bounce back.

Last night was brutal and he won't shoot 1-10 very often.

RC is one of our most important players. He is not the reason we lost to St. Johns.

[Xville]

It's a tough stretch. Call it a slump if you will, but his track record leads me to believe he will bounce back.

Last night was brutal and he won't shoot 1-10 very often.

RC is one of our most important players. He is not the reason we lost to St. Johns.

Agreed. We lost because we can’t rebound and we don’t do the fundamentals like box out. We have zero inside toughness. Free tries very hard but hes limited defensively and gets pushed around because of his size

[94GRAD]

Because I suspect something else is going on.

PLEASE enlighten us on what you think is going on.

[MHettel]

Conwell was far and away Coach Miller's prized 2024 signing in the wake of his stellar Indiana St. sophomore season. Not only that, he was not a "rental"....he arrived with TWO years of eligibility remaining. It could be argued that Miller was extremely confident that Ryan would be the "tip of the spear" for program success in those 2 seasons.....basically ALL IN.

It appears that something has gone terribly wrong.

His last 4 games, the 3 loses especially, are nothing close statistically to his previous FIFTY (4/4/24?).

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/5107157/ryan-conwell
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/5107157/type/mens-college-basketball/year/2024

This is not a "slump"....Injury? Not even rumors of any.

Obviously there is a lot of season left and any ball he plays for that duration will be for X, although reduced PT or injury is always possible. OR, he could do a quick 180° and perform to Miller's high expectations. However, if this continues to be reality....his return for next season has to be in question.

He’s facing a lot different levels of talent in the Big East than he would have faced in ISUs conference. And they had a couple other offensive stars to allow him to NOT be the focus of the defense.

I don’t think it’s a slump. I think this is how successful he’s gonna be at this level. Unfortunately

[drudy23]

This team needs Ryan Conwell. I'll take his body of work over a few bad games. He will bounce back.

[Xville]

He’s facing a lot different levels of talent in the Big East than he would have faced in ISUs conference. And they had a couple other offensive stars to allow him to NOT be the focus of the defense.

I don’t think it’s a slump. I think this is how successful he’s gonna be at this level. Unfortunately

If you think that, then explain Michigan, TCU, UC, Seton Hall, Wake and UCONN games.

[Xavier]

He is a great weapon for a team that can win it all. A team that has 3-4 really good options (including low post options). I’m not sure he’s great when he’s the leader of a team that doesn’t have many other options. It’s really hard to be a good offense when no one on the team can consistently beat there man and help open it up.

He can be the best player on a really good roster and it’s fine, he’s not a guy that will absolutely carry a bad team.

[drudy23]

He is a great weapon for a team that can win it all. A team that has 3-4 really good options (including low post options). I’m not sure he’s great when he’s the leader of a team that doesn’t have many other options. It’s really hard to be a good offense when no one on the team can consistently beat there man and help open it up.

He can be the best player on a really good roster and it’s fine, he’s not a guy that will absolutely carry a bad team.

Yup - it's why roster construction is so important.

Sum is greater than it's parts.

[Xuperman]

PLEASE enlighten us on what you think is going on.

Sure.

I was flipping through the proverbial "handbook" of reasons young men can get disillusioned playing college basketball, but very few of those reasons seem to fit Conwell's predicament.

That's because the section on the negative effects of NIL in college sports hasn't been written.

Let's see how things play out and wait for the revised edition.

[XU_Lou]

NM

[94GRAD]

Sure.

I was flipping through the proverbial "handbook" of reasons young men can get disillusioned playing college basketball, but very few of those reasons seem to fit Conwell's predicament.

That's because the section on the negative effects of NIL in college sports hasn't been written.

Let's see how things play out and wait for the revised edition.

So nothing, got it.

[SkyWalker]

Sure.

I was flipping through the proverbial "handbook" of reasons young men can get disillusioned playing college basketball, but very few of those reasons seem to fit Conwell's predicament.

That's because the section on the negative effects of NIL in college sports hasn't been written.

Let's see how things play out and wait for the revised edition.
Maybe his check bounced. New NIL reason.

[Xville]

So nothing, got it.

lol exactly. Public reps. Still can’t explain his overall body of work or explain away his performance against UConn, uc etc etc.

[Xuperman]

So nothing, got it.

How so? I guess my above post wasn't well communicated. This should be more clear.

The Xavier Basketball program has been a huge part of my life. I was directly involved at the very beginning of the rise to prominence when Coach Staak started it and most of Gillen's run. Over all that time, one gets a good feel for how this was accomplished. One key element has always been to build long standing/dedicated relationships. The results overwhelmingly create winning chemistry....paramount to a small school/program like Xavier reaching elite status.

NIL/Portal has X trending South in continuing that continuity.

Conwell's Marquette Cintas performance is a marker. Until he returns to the Alpha guard that he constantly displayed AND is being paid for....I think NIL has a high probability of being a big part of any continued disappointment.

[Xville]

How so? I guess my above post wasn't well communicated. This should be more clear.

The Xavier Basketball program has been a huge part of my life. I was directly involved at the very beginning of the rise to prominence when Coach Staak started it and most of Gillen's run. Over all that time, one gets a good feel for how this was accomplished. One key element has always been to build long standing/dedicated relationships. The results overwhelmingly create winning chemistry....paramount to a small school/program like Xavier reaching elite status.

NIL/Portal has X trending South in continuing that continuity.

Conwell's Marquette Cintas performance is a marker. Until he returns to the Alpha guard that he is being paid for....I think NIL has a high probability of being a big part of why he doesn't.

The game right after Marquette he had 22 points on 7-13 shooting, 3-7 3pg, 3 rbs and 2 assists.

The game right before Marquette he had 23 points on 9-13 shooting, 3-5 3pg, 3 rbs and an assist.

So, please explain those two performances if NIL is such a problem? Or, is it more realistic that he's just in a slump like most if not all shooters go thru?

He's being paid because he can shoot and score, he's not being paid to be an alpha dog, whatever the hell that means.

Even if you look at last year, he had games like he had against Marquette and Gtown. Every shooter has them:

he was 1-7 against UIC, 1-10 against Seton Hall in the NIT, 3-11 against belmont. No one is perfect. His overall body of work suggests to me that you are making something out of nothing.

[94GRAD]

How so? I guess my above post wasn't well communicated. This should be more clear.

The Xavier Basketball program has been a huge part of my life. I was directly involved at the very beginning of the rise to prominence when Coach Staak started it and most of Gillen's run. Over all that time, one gets a good feel for how this was accomplished. One key element has always been to build long standing/dedicated relationships. The results overwhelmingly create winning chemistry....paramount to a small school/program like Xavier reaching elite status.

NIL/Portal has X trending South in continuing that continuity.

Conwell's Marquette Cintas performance is a marker. Until he returns to the Alpha guard that he constantly displayed AND is being paid for....I think NIL has a high probability of being a big part of any continued disappointment.

You said, "I suspect something else is going on," indicating that there is a reason it isn't just a slump. However, you have yet to say what that something else is.

[drudy23]

He's averaging almost 16 a game (2nd best on the team) and shooting over 40% from 3. He's literally our second best player. He plays hard, he defends.

What are we doing here?

[Xville]

He's averaging almost 16 a game (2nd best on the team) and shooting over 40% from 3. He's literally our second best player. He plays hard, he defends.

What are we doing here?

Xuperman just proving again he doesn't know ball.

[Xuperman]

Ok, Mr. Villanova 11th.

We shall see.

In the mean time....

Troll on!!!!

[Xville]

Ok, Mr. Villanova 11th.

We shall see.

In the mean time....

Troll on!!!!

And you picked Marquette 6th and Georgetown last. Seems that no one is perfect in what is supposed to be fun, predictions.

How about not getting off topic and instead try to defend your position with actual facts? I provided mine, and took apart your argument of feelings. You have nothing so you call me a troll. You sir are the problem.

[drudy23]

It seems obvious who is trying to troll here.

Let's cut Conwell - wtf????

[Xuperman]

It seems obvious who is trying to troll here.

Let's cut Conwell - wtf????

That's about a disingenuous as it gets....and posting as a "wing man" for 'ville only magnifies it.

This thread was created out of legitimate concern. It was intended to consider possibilities outside the realm of the obvious.... a typical shooting slump. But of course, that brings out the expected attack for even bringing up that possibility.

At no point has it been suggested, or even implied, that Ryan should be "cut"....so your reasoning to make that stupid post is beyond me.

Look, do some players have off court issues that negatively effect expected production. Absolutely. Academics, mental problems, criminal activity, girls/partying etc.

IMO, the NIL/Portal has great potential to be the main driver of "off court" issues. Traditional team chemistry is vulnerable to negative side effects because of it. The number of head coaches that can not tolerate the reality is real. The UNLV QB story can only multiply.

Conwell was, by far, the top '24 signee for Miller. It is almost guaranteed he is being paid a significant amount more than any other player not named Freemantle. So, my inclination to believe that, if things don't normalize, NIL complications having to be considered is 100% legitimate.

[drudy23]

1. Not a wing man - it's just that obvious that Conwell isn't a problem. He's legit our 2nd best player
2. You keep saying there is something else to the story when there's no evidence of there being something else to the story. Or to take it another step, if you know something, you're being cagey about it
3. X's NIL issues are no different than any other team's NIL issues
4. I don't think anyone else thinks that Conwell is in a mini-slump because his psyche is hurting from making more NIL money

Again, what are we doing? To say something has gone "incredibly wrong" with Conwell is just crazy talk.

[Xuperman]

I have no insider info. Only my personal suspicion....because I hate the reality of paying student athletes and am convinced it will create increased locker room issues with 1st year portal guys across NCAA sports.

Again....let's see how the rest of January unfolds.

[Xuperman]

Some dipshit claims he took apart my argument with "facts"....just one of Ryan's expected "shooting slumps". Challenged me to provide some to the contrary.

1- No one is arguing anything as fact. Only my suspicion. Which by definition is fact-less.

2- Dipshit failed to acknowledge the "fact" that Conwell has never come close to the current 4 game "slump". Not close in the last FIFTY games.

[drudy23]

It's just odd that with all of this team's struggles, you pick Conwell to point out.

Is Freemantle next?

I heard David West and Trevon were big problems too. It's just an odd take.

[Xville]

Some dipshit claims he took apart my argument with "facts"....just one of Ryan's expected "shooting slumps". Challenged me to provide some to the contrary.

1- No one is arguing anything as fact. Only my suspicion. Which by definition is fact-less.

2- Dipshit failed to acknowledge the "fact" that Conwell has never come close to the current 4 game "slump". Not close in the last FIFTY games.

So in other words, you started an entire thread based on assumptions and feelings and then get upset when someone challenged you for it? What are you doing? What exactly is your point in starting this thread? Second leading scorer and best guard on the team, so let’s go ahead and make shit up about him. No one agrees with you on this thread, maybe just take the l and move on.

What 4 game slump? Did you forget the game after Marquette? I guess that game didn’t happen.

[Xville]

Conwell with a solid game. I guess that nil issue is over lol

[94GRAD]

Conwell with a solid game. I guess that nil issue is over lol

We still need to wait and see

[X-band '01]

Again, please enlighten us with the issues that Ryan Conwell has.

Besides being awesome in the clutch.

[Xville]

Close this stupid thread and you owe conwell an apology. Period

[drudy23]

Preach!

[Xuperman]

Again, please enlighten us with the issues that Ryan Conwell has.

Besides being awesome in the clutch.

You sure went out of your way to blow an honest concern out of proportion. No big deal. As you can see....this board does have a few pompous a-holes to keep you company.

I never came close to denigrating Ryan as a player or question his ability. Just decided to tap out a suspicion on my tablet.

Fact is, money is now a top priority in the motivation and decision making with some of these talented young men. I looks like he is happy with his payday for now. Hopefully he finishes his college career as a Musketeer.

[94GRAD]

You sure went out of your way to blow an honest concern out of proportion. No big deal. As you can see....this board does have a few pompous a-holes to keep you company.
I never came close to denigrating Ryan as a player or question his ability. Just decided to tap out a suspicion on my tablet.

Fact is, money is now a top priority in the motivation and decision making with some of these talented young men. I looks like he is happy with his payday for now. Hopefully he finishes his college career as a Musketeer.

Well then explain this quote- "Because I suspect something else is going on."

[Xuperman]

Well then explain this quote- "Because I suspect something else is going on."

Why the continued confusion. I despise the norm created that now pays SOME "student athletes" disproportionately for their services. It is inevitable that this will cause occasional team friction. At the time....I suspected that Ryan had some locker room issues with his payday vs performance. Nothing more. It appears my concern was unfounded.

[Xuperman]

Close this stupid thread and you owe conwell an apology. Period

Apology? For what? My read of body language was legit....but it seems my reasoning was off. Period.

Add drama queen to your list of annoying attributes.

[Xville]

Apology? For what? My read of body language was legit....but it seems my reasoning was off. Period.

Add drama queen to your list of annoying attributes.

So like a few posters on here, you can’t just admit you were wrong and leave it at that. You denigrated conwell, insinuating there was something going on when there very clearly wasn’t. You implied that it was due to money, again denigrating a player you know nothing about. Drama queen? That’d be you who was making something out of nothing except a shooting slump.

When there are a lot of people saying the same thing about you, maybe look in the mirror and realize you were in the wrong and just take it. A life lesson really.

[MHettel]

When there are a lot of people saying the same thing about you, maybe look in the mirror and realize you were in the wrong and just take it. A life lesson really.

Oh, the irony

[Xville]

Oh, the irony

Yeah except it’s you, xuperman and Lou. A little different

[Xuperman]

Oh, the irony

"My concern was unfounded". Translation= I was wrong.

Posted MULTIPLE times in different threads.

I get it wrong sometimes. However, I was spot on in an earlier post. There are a few pompous A-holes here....that obviously avoid " mirrors".

[Jumpin_Jamal_Forever]

As one who has criticized Conwell's play in important games, I too will stand down. I consider any conference game to be important and despite a slow start against DePaul, he contributed mightily to both wins. Hell, we would not have won either game without him and last night was his best performance of the season and came in absolute crunch time.

Seems like the last few games he is taking the ball to the basket more often. He has been successful drawing fouls which is good because he hits his free throws and his three balls don't seem as forced as before.

Anyway, I also will hang my head in shame, admit my wrong doing and pledge to do better.

[drudy23]

And McK actually took some shots last night. KEEP SHOOTING DAYVION!!!

[X-band '01]

It's one thing to point out Conwell hasn't always been up to snuff in big games and/or gets in early foul trouble - that's legitimate.

It's just not legitimate to insinuate that something's going on with him without proof because you have a small internet penis and you think that saying so will increase your cred on this board and/or with your drinking buddies.

But the good news is that internet impotence can be cured. Operators are standing by somewhere in the world.

[94GRAD]

It's one thing to point out Conwell hasn't always been up to snuff in big games and/or gets in early foul trouble - that's legitimate.

It's just not legitimate to insinuate that something's going on with him without proof because you have a small internet penis and you think that saying so will increase your cred on this board and/or with your drinking buddies.

But the good news is that internet impotence can be cured. Operators are standing by somewhere in the world.

Public reps since the man is keeping me down

[D-West & PO-Z]

Reading this thread for the 1st time today, after last night is hilarious. Thanks for the laughs.

Some people are just insistent on making issues where there are none. Conwell had some bad games bc of the NIL money he was making? Jeez....

[XUGRAD80]

it's one thing to point out conwell hasn't always been up to snuff in big games and/or gets in early foul trouble - that's legitimate.

It's just not legitimate to insinuate that something's going on with him without proof because you have a small internet penis and you think that saying so will increase your cred on this board and/or with your drinking buddies.

But the good news is that internet impotence can be cured. Operators are standing by somewhere in the world.

lol. +1.

[XU 87]

nm.

[Xuperman]

It's one thing to point out Conwell hasn't always been up to snuff in big games and/or gets in early foul trouble - that's legitimate.

It's just not legitimate to insinuate that something's going on with him without proof because you have a small internet penis and you think that saying so will increase your cred on this board and/or with your drinking buddies.

But the good news is that internet impotence can be cured. Operators are standing by somewhere in the world.


If you think I was trying to increase my "cred" here you've got something loose upstairs. I knew I was going to get hammered when I started the thread.

BTW, my entire premise was that I suspected something, other than a shooting slump, could have been at play. A "suspicion", by definition, is VOID OF FACT.

For the record, I have NO inside sources related to the Xavier bball program or it's players. Unlike many here that give the perception that they do.

Moving on.

[94GRAD]

If you think I was trying to increase my "cred" here you've got something loose upstairs. I knew I was going to get hammered when I started the thread.

BTW, my entire premise was that I suspected something, other than a shooting slump, could have been at play. A "suspicion", by definition, is VOID OF FACT.

For the record, I have NO inside sources related to the Xavier bball program or it's players. Unlike many here that give the perception that they do.

Moving on.

There was no need for you to say this. Based on your posts, everyone here knows that.

[Xville]

If you think I was trying to increase my "cred" here you've got something loose upstairs. I knew I was going to get hammered when I started the thread.

BTW, my entire premise was that I suspected something, other than a shooting slump, could have been at play. A "suspicion", by definition, is VOID OF FACT.

For the record, I have NO inside sources related to the Xavier bball program or it's players. Unlike many here that give the perception that they do.

Moving on.

Yet, you and Hett continually just come up with bs without any real knowledge of the basketball team. For what?

Both you and Hett at the start of this thread said "It's not a slump." Doesn't sound like "a suspicion" to me, sounds like you were pretty convinced without any knowledge of anything. Not shocking, considering the crap you two make up on a consistent basis.

There are several posters here that actually do have ties to the program...maybe listen every once in a while.

[drudy23]

I just can't get over the fact that with all that's been going wrong with Xavier basketball, someone actually pointed the finger at Conwell???

He's like second last in line. It was and still is just an odd take.

[MHettel]

Yet, you and Hett continually just come up with bs without any real knowledge of the basketball team. For what?

Both you and Hett at the start of this thread said "It's not a slump." Doesn't sound like "a suspicion" to me, sounds like you were pretty convinced without any knowledge of anything. Not shocking, considering the crap you two make up on a consistent basis.

There are several posters here that actually do have ties to the program...maybe listen every once in a while.

You should re-read my comment. And then consider editing yours so it’s accurate.

[94GRAD]

He’s facing a lot different levels of talent in the Big East than he would have faced in ISUs conference. And they had a couple other offensive stars to allow him to NOT be the focus of the defense.

I don’t think it’s a slump. I think this is how successful he’s gonna be at this level. Unfortunately


You should re-read my comment. And then consider editing yours so it’s accurate.

Did you not say you don't think it's a slump? What am I missing that he needs to edit? In fact, if I'm reading this right, you think he's not good enough to play against Big East competition which is worse than just being in a slump.

[Xville]

You should re-read my comment. And then consider editing yours so it’s accurate.

Oh “ I don’t think it’s a slump” is what then? Stop gaslighting

[bleedXblue]

Conwell shooting 40% from 3. Averaging 16 a game. This post provided me some comedic relief .

[Xavier]

Hett did you just bank on no one checking what you said after that? Lol it’s verbatim. That’s classic trolling.

[MHettel]

Did you not say you don't think it's a slump? What am I missing that he needs to edit? In fact, if I'm reading this right, you think he's not good enough to play against Big East competition which is worse than just being in a slump.

I didn’t allude to anything. I didn’t suggest that there was some sinister forces at play. I didn’t speculate that there was “something going on”.

I actually PROVIDED an explanation for why he had several lackluster games in a row.

You guys are hung up on this idea of making something out of nothing. But I didn’t provide “nothing”. I provided an ACTUAL root cause that may explain ( in whole or in part) some of Conwells struggles.

And I didn’t make this shit up. Jason Carter jumped from the MAC to the Big East…..and floundered. Ben Stanley led the country in shot attempts at Hampton….and couldn’t crack the rotation at X.

It goes the other way too. Sasa Ciani got destroyed in the Big East last year and is now averaging nearly a double double in 20 minutes per game….in the same league that Conwell came from.

The reality is there IS a difference in the competition level between the conferences. And further reality is that many players struggle (or flourish depending on if they moved down) when facing different competition. That was my position.

Lumping that reasonable take into some tin foil hat NIL conspiracy is just wrong.

[Jumpin_Jamal_Forever]

I didn’t allude to anything. I didn’t suggest that there was some sinister forces at play. I didn’t speculate that there was “something going on”.

I actually PROVIDED an explanation for why he had several lackluster games in a row.

You guys are hung up on this idea of making something out of nothing. But I didn’t provide “nothing”. I provided an ACTUAL root cause that may explain ( in whole or in part) some of Conwells struggles.

And I didn’t make this shit up. Jason Carter jumped from the MAC to the Big East…..and floundered. Ben Stanley led the country in shot attempts at Hampton….and couldn’t crack the rotation at X.

It goes the other way too. Sasa Ciani got destroyed in the Big East last year and is now averaging nearly a double double in 20 minutes per game….in the same league that Conwell came from.

The reality is there IS a difference in the competition level between the conferences. And further reality is that many players struggle (or flourish depending on if they moved down) when facing different competition. That was my position.

Lumping that reasonable take into some tin foil hat NIL conspiracy is just wrong.

Well, I think it is reasonable to ask how we evaluate transfer talent. Hettel postulated that Conwell was not talented enough to compete in the B.E. The book is now (or certainly should be) closed. I'm pretty sure Hettel, too, agrees with that.

Conwell can compete at this level. That's an understatement! And, we have plenty of examples of lower division talent coming to X and doing well---most recently Souley and then Olivari. More going back before then. But, this year, we all can agree (I think) that Hugely and Maddox look like misses. Hugely didn't even play at a lower level. He just hasn't gotten it done.

In the portal era, we will need to evaluate incoming talent effectively. That evaluation must occur quickly. Competition will not allow a long thorough evaluation.

As an aside, I wasn't sorry to see Abou, Cianni or Lazar move on. They all appeared to be misses last year. Wish we had them this year.

[MHettel]

Well, I think it is reasonable to ask how we evaluate transfer talent. Hettel postulated that Conwell was not talented enough to compete in the B.E. The book is now (or certainly should be) closed. I'm pretty sure Hettel, too, agrees with that.

Conwell can compete at this level. That's an understatement! And, we have plenty of examples of lower division talent coming to X and doing well---most recently Souley and then Olivari. More going back before then. But, this year, we all can agree (I think) that Hugely and Maddox look like misses. Hugely didn't even play at a lower level. He just hasn't gotten it done.

In the portal era, we will need to evaluate incoming talent effectively. That evaluation must occur quickly. Competition will not allow a long thorough evaluation.

As an aside, I wasn't sorry to see Abou, Cianni or Lazar move on. They all appeared to be misses last year. Wish we had them this year.

It is for SURE a potential issue with transfers. Some guys are immune to it (Boum & Q as examples) and others look outclassed.

Kunkel is a good example of a guy that moved up and his numbers dropped considerably, but he still found a way to contribute.

Tandy is another example. Cant get on the court at X, transfers to Jacksonville and is all conference 2nd team, then transfers to FAU where he seemingly just stands in the corner and takes only 3s. I don’t get it. The only thing that changed is the competition.

Check Gytis’ numbers at Hawaii. It’s like 15&7 and drilling 3s.

Odom is good at Tulsa. Edwards is near a double double at Georgia state.

Craft is a scoring machine. Let’s face it, had he never gone to Xavier and he enters the portal after this year we’d all be like “yes, please”…..but we know better.

Bottom line is that Conwell had several poor games over a short stretch of time. If we continue to see this guy that showed up the last 2 games then he will be in the same sentence at Souley and Q. If he turns out to be more “hot and cold”, the. I guess he winds up a tier below those guys.

I’ll take what we e. Even getting lately.

Lazar is not doing so hot…..2-18 this year from 3.

[MHettel]

And this just found a new life.

At this point it’s not about Conwell. At all.

But the “quick trigger” claims that the original question about Conwells performance had no merit. Now, I don’t necessarily buy the idea that he’s tanking due to some NIL issue or something like that.

Many came to his defense and he shut down this discussion mid week with that dagger performance against Nova. Mic drop!

But he had a real clunker today. His shot was blocked 4 times including g 3 from 3. Hell I could do that.

So what is the consensus? Slump?

A slump is when the shot doesn’t go IN.

His shots barely left his hand. He struggled even finding a shot today.

Was it the MU gameplan to give him nothing? (I would do that). Was it the competition level and facing a tenacious perimeter defensive team (my prior theory). Or both.

Gonna need something consistently right in the middle of what we got from Conwell this week.

We get Tuesdays performance against Nova and we win out. We get what we did today and we maybe get 2-3 more wins.

I am a little perplexed, but hopefull

[GoMuskies]

I hear you, but we got what we did today from him and beat the #7 team in the country on the road. So I'm not sure I'd be so confident in the 2-3 win claim with some of the shitty teams we've still got on the schedule.

[Xville]

Best win for x in a really really long time and first instinct is to get on x chatboard and whine about school financials and conwell’s disappointing game. Someone really needs to get laid.

[xukeith]

And this just found a new life.

At this point it’s not about Conwell. At all.

But the “quick trigger” claims that the original question about Conwells performance had no merit. Now, I don’t necessarily buy the idea that he’s tanking due to some NIL issue or something like that.

Many came to his defense and he shut down this discussion mid week with that dagger performance against Nova. Mic drop!

But he had a real clunker today. His shot was blocked 4 times including g 3 from 3. Hell I could do that.

So what is the consensus? Slump?

A slump is when the shot doesn’t go IN.

His shots barely left his hand. He struggled even finding a shot today.

Was it the MU gameplan to give him nothing? (I would do that). Was it the competition level and facing a tenacious perimeter defensive team (my prior theory). Or both.

Gonna need something consistently right in the middle of what we got from Conwell this week.

We get Tuesdays performance against Nova and we win out. We get what we did today and we maybe get 2-3 more wins.

I am a little perplexed, but hopefull

I think it depends on how hard the competition is. Is SJ closer to Villanova or closer to Marquette?

[bleedXblue]

Conwell needs to be more situationally aware of his opponents. He was scouted well by Marquette and almost always try's to pull a quick trigger without a pump or head fake.

[Xavier]

He didn’t have a good game. He was guarded by arguable the best defending guard in the country. Still, didn’t have it- missed a few open looks we needed.

But he had 3 crucial plays to win the game for us in the end. A drive, great dish for an easy layup, and diving on the loose ball. Neither Marquette player did. Conwell did the dirty work. I don’t think we scored off the time out he got, but it stopped them from an easy fast break. He was responsible for 6 points in most Crucial time. Overall game- we need more- in most crucial time he was huge

[bleedXblue]

He didn’t have a good game. He was guarded by arguable the best defending guard in the country. Still, didn’t have it- missed a few open looks we needed.

But he had 3 crucial plays to win the game for us in the end. A drive, great dish for an easy layup, and diving on the loose ball. Neither Marquette player did. Conwell did the dirty work. I don’t think we scored off the time out he got, but it stopped them from an easy fast break. He was responsible for 6 points in most Crucial time. Overall game- we need more- in most crucial time he was huge

Agreed- again being more aware of that and making an adjustment ....especially after the first block.......

[Xville]

Agreed- again being more aware of that and making an adjustment ....especially after the first block.......

One thing. Two of the blocks were when he was given the ball at the end of the shot clock. He doesn’t have the athleticism to get by his man 1 on 1 at this level. It’s just not his game. It’s really no one’s on x outside of maybe Dayvion and swain (if his handle improves). As others said he impacted winning without scoring much and having an off shooting game. Biggest thing, won probably the biggest reg season away game ever outside of beating uc in 96.

[bleedXblue]

One thing. Two of the blocks were when he was given the ball at the end of the shot clock. He doesn’t have the athleticism to get by his man 1 on 1 at this level. It’s just not his game. It’s really no one’s on x outside of maybe Dayvion and swain (if his handle improves). As others said he impacted winning without scoring much and having an off shooting game. Biggest thing, won probably the biggest reg season away game ever outside of beating uc in 96.

I think we can separate the two—saying he needs to adapt his game at times and X winning a huge game on the road are not the same. This is a Conwell thread. He shot 3-13 with 1 rebound and 1 assist. He's been a good contributor overall this year. I like him.

[Xville]

I think we can separate the two—saying he needs to adapt his game at times and X winning a huge game on the road are not the same. This is a Conwell thread. He shot 3-13 with 1 rebound and 1 assist. He's been a good contributor overall this year. I like him.

Curious, what do you mean by adapt his game?

[bleedXblue]

Curious, what do you mean by adapt his game?

Ive posted it already above

[Xavier]

As mentioned, I think he still played a huge role in the win. His baseline fade early in the game is part of the adaption I’d like to see more of. Not being able to separate and get looks vs one of the best defenders in country isn’t a huge deal, not making the open looks he had (at least some) is tough. He got pulled in the 2nd half when Marquette was in zone. Had ball and was dribbling into middle of lane, had a couple options right away- held it and resulted in a highly contested shot.

Sean pulled him and motioned to dish it. Just a little thing.