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paulxu
11-23-2024, 10:10 AM
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FORT MYERS, FLA. --- The Xavier University Musketeers, 5-0, take on the University of South Carolina Gamecocks, 3-2, on Monday night at 8:30 p.m. in the Fort Myers Tip-Off at Suncoast Credit Union Arena. Michigan and Virginia Tech play in the first game of that night's doubleheader.

Xavier will play five of its next seven games away from Cintas Center, starting with the South Carolina game. XU plays either Michigan or Virginia Tech on Nov. 27, at TCU on Dec. 5, at Cincinnati on Dec. 14 and its BIG EAST opener at UConn on Dec. 18. XU, which has home games on Dec. 1 vs. South Carolina State and Dec. 10 vs. Morgan State, is third among "others receiving votes" in the latest Associated Press Top 25 Poll (11-18-24) and second among "others receiving votes" in the USA Today Sports Coaches Poll (11-18-24).

THE MATCHUP

XAVIER UNIVERSITY MUSKETEERS (5-0, 0-0 BIG EAST)
SOUTH CAROLINA GAMECOCKS (3-2, 0-0 SEC)
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 25, 2024 AT 8:30 PM ET
AT THE SUNCOAST CREDIT UNION ARENA, FT MYERS, FL

BROADCAST AND LIVE STATS INFORMATION

TV/Stream: FS1 with Jeff Levering and Donny Marshall on the call.
Xavier Radio: 700 WLW with play-by-play from Xavier Hall of Famer Joe Sunderman ('79) and analysis from XU all-time leading scorer and Hall of Famer Byron Larkin
('88).XU broadcast is also available on the Varsity Network and on Sirius XM.

Live Stats: Media stats at Statbroadcast.com (http://Statbroadcast.com) and fan stats at GoXavier.com (http://GoXavier.com).

94GRAD
11-23-2024, 11:16 AM
Paul, who are you rooting for? :spaz::spaz::spaz:

paulxu
11-23-2024, 11:31 AM
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Cocks do have some fine cheerleaders though.

Three Point Pete
11-23-2024, 01:28 PM
Well, I'll say it again: Wake played atrocious ball, so I can't make any further evaluation.
I think that it will be interesting to watch Swain match up with their 6'8" slasher, Zach Davis. It's time to make basketball fun again!

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Xavier
11-25-2024, 11:58 AM
The line is X-6.5. Honestly thought it would be closer to 9. 6.5 is just closer than expected for a game I don’t except to have any trouble with.

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11-25-2024, 04:18 PM
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Cocks do have some fine cheerleaders though.

better than the other way around...

GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 08:37 PM
Didn't SC think they were going to get Miller two years ago?

SC is massive.

Free with 2 is not ideal.

noteggs
11-25-2024, 08:47 PM
Yes they did

Xville
11-25-2024, 08:48 PM
Time to step up hugley

GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 08:51 PM
Well, we appear to be horrendous with Free out.

noteggs
11-25-2024, 08:51 PM
Great start. Now so much

GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 08:53 PM
Hugley appears to be bad.

Xville
11-25-2024, 08:53 PM
Good job hugley. Geezus that was a horrible couple minutes.

bjf123
11-25-2024, 08:54 PM
13-0 SC run and two fouls on both Fremantle and Hugley. That ain’t good.


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Three Point Pete
11-25-2024, 08:56 PM
Man, there's a lid on the basket!

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GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 08:56 PM
So Sean, what is it you would say we try to do on offense?

Xville
11-25-2024, 08:56 PM
Lots of passing around the perimeter and then throwing up an awkward three.

ArizonaXUGrad
11-25-2024, 08:58 PM
8.5 mins and all three bigs have fouls. What is going on?

noteggs
11-25-2024, 09:00 PM
13-0 SC run and two fouls on both Fremantle and Hugley. That ain’t good.


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And without SC’s starting center

GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 09:02 PM
Free is never allowed to come out again.

Xville
11-25-2024, 09:03 PM
That’s better :) . Still would like to see the ball move more toward the basket in the half court offense though.

GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 09:06 PM
Poor Hugley just doesn't belong in a game like this.

waggy
11-25-2024, 09:08 PM
Poor Hugley just doesn't belong in a game like this.

Well apparently he wont be for long.

ArizonaXUGrad
11-25-2024, 09:10 PM
6 of our 8 fouls are from our bigs, they are all out classed on that end of the court. They are going to have to figure out how to make shots. BE having a tough day.

Three Point Pete
11-25-2024, 09:10 PM
1/6 3's ..has to get better

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ArizonaXUGrad
11-25-2024, 09:14 PM
Good lord 9 fouls already in the half.

Xville
11-25-2024, 09:15 PM
In x’s defense those “fouls” weren’t fouls

ArizonaXUGrad
11-25-2024, 09:16 PM
In x’s defense those “fouls” weren’t fouls

True, same refs for both sides. I am sure they will even things out.

GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 09:18 PM
Two missed front ends. Brutal

Our shot selection is....poor.

Xville
11-25-2024, 09:20 PM
Outside of free, Our guys are playing rattled on offense. A lot of dribbling and bad shots.

Three Point Pete
11-25-2024, 09:21 PM
In x’s defense those “fouls” weren’t foulsThey were "fowls"" for the gamecocks

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Strange Brew
11-25-2024, 09:22 PM
True, same refs for both sides. I am sure they will even things out.

Later on in The game. When it doesn’t matter in the flow.

noteggs
11-25-2024, 09:23 PM
Odd game for sure. Where are the assists we’re known for?

Xville
11-25-2024, 09:28 PM
Well, x got punched in the mouth this half. Get to the locker room, and then hit back

noteggs
11-25-2024, 09:28 PM
Hope we are not rolling the dice with free in

bjf123
11-25-2024, 09:28 PM
Whoever is in charge of updating the score ribbon on the screen is having a bad day.


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GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 09:31 PM
Played like complete garbage and only down 5. Feel okay about winning this one still.

On the other hand, yikes.

Xville
11-25-2024, 09:32 PM
Played like complete garbage and only down 5. Feel okay about winning this one still.

On the other hand, yikes.

Ha, yeah I’m with ya on both points

bjf123
11-25-2024, 09:32 PM
Well that was a fugly half of basketball. 1-11 from 3 is a big reason.


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noteggs
11-25-2024, 09:33 PM
2 assists and 1 for 11 is not ideal for a half.

ArizonaXUGrad
11-25-2024, 09:33 PM
First game away from home, I hope they come out different. 21 total fouls, SC has two with three we have one. Defense will be interesting in the second half.

Muskeagle
11-25-2024, 09:35 PM
2 assists and 1 for 11 is not ideal for a half.

Tough to accumulate assists when you don't make shots. Not saying the shot selection is great, but when you shoot around 30% and stay in the game because of a ton of offensive rebounds...the assist total will not look good.

Three Point Pete
11-25-2024, 09:37 PM
Well that was a fugly half of basketball. 1-11 from 3 is a big reason.


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkFugly indeed fell from that tree, hitting every branch on the way down.
Numbers should come around on FG%

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Strange Brew
11-25-2024, 09:38 PM
Played like complete garbage and only down 5. Feel okay about winning this one still.

On the other hand, yikes.

Kind of tough to gameplan when both of the major bigs pick up two “fouls” in the first 10 min.

drudy23
11-25-2024, 09:38 PM
Free is essential to this team because he’s the only guy that can get a bucket in the paint in the half court. If he’s out, they will continue to hedge aggressively on shooters. Need to establish the paint to open up the perimeter.

drudy23
11-25-2024, 09:42 PM
2 bench points in a half where the bench got a ton of minutes.

Our second wave has ALOT of work to do.

MHettel
11-25-2024, 09:43 PM
Hunter doesn’t look anywhere near where he was 2 years ago. Invisible on both ends of the court

GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 09:48 PM
Just way more crisp on offense already.

Xville
11-25-2024, 09:50 PM
Hell of a game from swain so far. Coming out party?

GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 09:50 PM
Great Xavier crowd!!!

waggy
11-25-2024, 09:51 PM
Swain!

GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 09:57 PM
I guess Miller decided Green can't play in this game? Or he's pissed at the crazy shot he jacked in his one minute of action?

Just looked at the box score, and i guess it was two shots. I only remember one particularly egregious one.

Enjoying this second half much more!!!

Three Point Pete
11-25-2024, 10:04 PM
Conwell is coming!

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bjf123
11-25-2024, 10:04 PM
Great Xavier crowd!!!

Cintas Center South!


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drudy23
11-25-2024, 10:05 PM
I guess Miller decided Green can't play in this game? Or he's pissed at the crazy shot he jacked in his one minute of action?

Just looked at the box score, and i guess it was two shots. I only remember one particularly egregious one.

Enjoying this second half much more!!!

Physicality of game more likely.

drudy23
11-25-2024, 10:09 PM
Or bad shot selection - take your pick.

Three Point Pete
11-25-2024, 10:11 PM
Or bad shot selection - take your pick.Agreed, take a better shot!

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Xville
11-25-2024, 10:11 PM
Hell yeah! This is more like it

noteggs
11-25-2024, 10:12 PM
Just glad we got over the 7 point hump lead

GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 10:19 PM
Finish them

ArizonaXUGrad
11-25-2024, 10:21 PM
Up 7 at the under 8 TO, got to use our experience to put them away.

Xville
11-25-2024, 10:28 PM
Connell having a nice second half. Love the two man game with free he’s had.

ArizonaXUGrad
11-25-2024, 10:29 PM
Letting them hang around, I don’t like that.

GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 10:30 PM
Can't handle prosperity.

Xville
11-25-2024, 10:31 PM
Ugh let them right back in it. Finish them!

xukeith
11-25-2024, 10:32 PM
X bench is less than desired. Hunter a bright spot. Hugley? ugh

Xville
11-25-2024, 10:42 PM
X bench is less than desired. Hunter a bright spot. Hugley? ugh

Hopefully hugley turns it around. Three years ago, he was almost a double double guy, but looks like a freshman right now. Right now, that one season looks like just an outlier. Wish we had traore.

GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 10:44 PM
What happened to him? Did he get hurt?

GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 10:46 PM
Nice second half. Beat Michigan.

Xville
11-25-2024, 10:46 PM
Got punched in the first half, but really responded in the 2nd and hit back. Get some rest and be ready to go Wednesday!

muskiefan82
11-25-2024, 10:49 PM
Hopefully, they shoot better against Michigan. Crappy from 3 and still win... I'll take it.

MauriceX
11-25-2024, 10:50 PM
What happened to him? Did he get hurt?

Not sure if you are referring to the post just before yours, but if you are, Traore is out for the season with a knee injury he sustained before the season.

American X
11-25-2024, 10:51 PM
Resilient win when not everything was going right first time away from home. Need to stick with this team through forty minutes. Straighten things out for a tough Michigan test.

ArizonaXUGrad
11-25-2024, 10:51 PM
12 months ago this was a loss. Now it’s a win and a gritty one. Won the boards, fast break points, and adjusted to the officiating better in the second by 5 fouls. Good win away from home and good experience for them.

Xville
11-25-2024, 10:52 PM
What happened to him? Did he get hurt?

Hugley? I know he had at least one knee injury, maybe two? It was also reported somewhere he had some mental challenges going on which could have arisen from the injuries, not sure. He looks pretty uncomfortable out there right now, but hoping the light comes back on real soon!

Three Point Pete
11-25-2024, 10:52 PM
X bench is less than desired. Hunter a bright spot. Hugley? ughMaybe Big John had an off night. I believe he'll come around.
Green needs to be more patient.

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noteggs
11-25-2024, 10:54 PM
Hopefully hugley turns it around. Three years ago, he was almost a double double guy, but looks like a freshman right now. Right now, that one season looks like just an outlier. Wish we had traore.

Wish we did as well with Lasina! Big John is getting used to his playing weight….hopefully

Xville
11-25-2024, 10:54 PM
Ended up being a good win, covered and nice to win away from home though x definitely has the crowd with them. Michigan will be tough!

GoMuskies
11-25-2024, 10:56 PM
Not sure if you are referring to the post just before yours, but if you are, Traore is out for the season with a knee injury he sustained before the season.

Hugley

Three Point Pete
11-25-2024, 10:58 PM
Tough, but not unbeatable. Need both 1st and 2nd half from Conwell

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XUGRAD80
11-25-2024, 10:59 PM
This type of game will pay dividends later in the year.

X has more points from turnovers, more rebounds, more points in the paint, more 2nd chance points, and more steals. They won because of their rebounding and defense.

Xavier
11-25-2024, 11:34 PM
Just a reminder of what how good Freemantle is. Such a shame he got hurt two years ago. What could have been.

Thought overall it was a poor performance tonight. Some context though- Both bigs had 2 fouls in first 5 minutes. Shot 4-18 from 3, and gave up a 17-0 run. Seemed rough from the FT line. Still won by 9. It’s the type of game we easily lose last year. Maybe it’s a good sign they still put up 75 with the offense looking like that though?

Will say the one thing I was happy about (besides Freemantle) was the rebounding. Feel like that’s been getting better

XUBison
11-26-2024, 12:20 AM
Great Xavier crowd!!!

I live 10 minutes from the gym. I wasn’t sure what to expect, but the X crowd was awesome— way better than SC. Lots of Michigan fans coming out while we entered. Should be fun on Wednesday.

Xville
11-26-2024, 08:49 AM
Swain grew up last night, that was one hell of a game on both sides of the floor. He did all the little things that don't necessarily show up on the stat sheet while showing up on the sheet as well. X doesn't win the game without him. Free of course was awesome as well.

Michigan is going to be tough...two 7 foot starters so our guys are really going to have to battle on the boards, and make shots. Should be a great one!

Smails
11-26-2024, 09:33 AM
Very gritty win and easily one that we would have lost last year. I was curious to see what would happen to us if the 3 balls were not falling and we certainly passed that test. I didn't think we would be able to win a game by being the better inside team, but that happened too. Great to see Swain play with some fire. Need to get Hugley and Green to give us more consistent minutes..

Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
11-26-2024, 10:04 AM
Swain grew up last night, that was one hell of a game on both sides of the floor. He did all the little things that don't necessarily show up on the stat sheet while showing up on the sheet as well. X doesn't win the game without him. Free of course was awesome as well.

Michigan is going to be tough...two 7 foot starters so our guys are really going to have to battle on the boards, and make shots. Should be a great one!

I expect Michigan will defend in similar manner to SC. Come out and challenge the three point shooters and try to force us into the paint----the teeth of their bigs.

Still a bit disappointed in Hugely. Looks like he still needs to lose weight to be able to effectively play more minutes. Right now, I can't see him contributing more than 10-15 minutes per game max.

Overall, agree with the tone. We weren't really sharp but still managed a win.

Also need more out of our bench ex Hugely. Saw Hunter step up a bit more last night, but we need still more from him. Same with Green and Maddox.

Tomorrow night will be interesting. Has the flavor of a March Madness game.

ArizonaXUGrad
11-26-2024, 10:47 AM
Tomorrow vs. Michigan will be the first where we are the underdog at least according to Kenpom. Michigan is 12 spots better. Yes it's meaningless and matchups mean more on the court, but it's an easy metric to look at for fans.

Xville
11-26-2024, 10:51 AM
Tomorrow vs. Michigan will be the first where we are the underdog at least according to Kenpom. Michigan is 12 spots better. Yes it's meaningless and matchups mean more on the court, but it's an easy metric to look at for fans.

Yeah agreed. I’m guessing it will be 2-3 based on Kenpom. Should be fun!

GoMuskies
11-26-2024, 11:05 AM
Yeah, Xavier will be an underdog and should lose, so it will be a very excellent sign for our season if we can pull out a win. Should be fun!

Xavier
11-26-2024, 11:24 AM
Early in season... but I didn’t think Michigan looked too good in the loss at wake. I think X is better now and will be all year. But it is a Q1 game. The 7 footers will be a good test for BE play.

drudy23
11-26-2024, 11:47 AM
We have the better team - is there a line yet?

GoMuskies
11-26-2024, 11:57 AM
I don't see a line yet. Probably not until late afternoon.

ArizonaXUGrad
11-26-2024, 12:52 PM
My layperson's guess would be the game hinges on Zach not picking up fouls and same for Foster or whomever picks up Gayle Jr. If Zach can stay out there and score enough, our guards should take over like last night. We get up and down too well and teams have to choose what they want to defend, whether it's crash the offensive boards (SC didn't) or try and slow transition. Michigan averages close to 7 more TOs than we do, that could be something we could exploit.