NCAA Being Sued Over Eligibility Limits

[xubrew]

I felt this one would come sooner or later. And, here it is. Vanderbilt’s QB is suing the NCAA for limiting the number of seasons he can play as a JUCO transfer. He is saying it is limiting his opportunity to make money off of NIL.

I don’t know if he has a case or not. What I do know is that the NCAA is not prepared for this in the same way they were not prepared for all of the anti-trust lawsuits. Will the courts rule that the NCAA has no right to declare anyone ineligible?? Then what? Can players play for 5 years? 6 years? 10 years? Will they not even have to be enrolled at the school at all in order to be eligible to play??

Will there be another lawsuit similar to the House Case that involves players who exhausted eligibility and could have kept playing had they been allowed to? And/or that were declared ineligible?

And, before anyone says “No, that can’t happen,” you need to realize that YES IT CAN!!!!! The NCAA’s approach to all the previous anti-trust lawsuits was “No, that won’t happen.” And, that’s one of the reasons they’ve lost control of everything and we’re in the mess that we are.

https://apnews.com/article/541a9dcd33815a9c006ee42dd9f4819b

[MHettel]

I felt this one would come sooner or later. And, here it is. Vanderbilt’s QB is suing the NCAA for limiting the number of seasons he can play as a JUCO transfer. He is saying it is limiting his opportunity to make money off of NIL.

I don’t know if he has a case or not. What I do know is that the NCAA is not prepared for this in the same way they were not prepared for all of the anti-trust lawsuits. Will the courts rule that the NCAA has no right to declare anyone ineligible?? Then what? Can players play for 5 years? 6 years? 10 years? Will they not even have to be enrolled at the school at all in order to be eligible to play??

Will there be another lawsuit similar to the House Case that involves players who exhausted eligibility and could have kept playing had they been allowed to? And/or that were declared ineligible?

And, before anyone says “No, that can’t happen,” you need to realize that YES IT CAN!!!!! The NCAA’s approach to all the previous anti-trust lawsuits was “No, that won’t happen.” And, that’s one of the reasons they’ve lost control of everything and we’re in the mess that we are.

https://apnews.com/article/541a9dcd33815a9c006ee42dd9f4819b

More fucking mess.

I’d love to rehash those discussion from a couple years ago where some people though the portal an NIL wouldn’t really amount to much of a change to college athletics. That was the dam breaking.

[xudash]

Compensation? Deserving a piece of the now massive pie? Everyone does or should get that.

Duration of opportunity? All of this is still tied, tethered whatever to an educational opportunity. This strikes me as ending up with a 6-year shelf life: 4 for the undergraduate component and 2 for a masters level component. Yes, it won’t be that simple, given the parties involved, but it will take some mind bending creativity to extend such opportunities out to a decade.

A 28-year old QB handing off to an 18-year old halfback sensation? This craziness will hopefully find a sane watermark at som point.

[xubrew]

More fucking mess.

I’d love to rehash those discussion from a couple years ago where some people though the portal an NIL wouldn’t really amount to much of a change to college athletics. That was the dam breaking.

Had the courts not ruled that the NCAA’s rules were illegal then the NCAA would have never changed them. The problem was the NCAA couldn’t come up with an actual legal argument to defend its position. They didn’t seem to even realize that they had to. They also did nothing to try and keep this from going to the courts. Again, they just didn’t seem to think that they had to. I hope they at least realize now that they have to come up with an actual legal argument to defend their eligibility rules or the courts will again rule that they have to get rid of them.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Easier solution to keep college sports having 30 year olds is allowing NIL at all levels. It won't trickle down, but allowing it would eliminate any anti-trust issues.

[xubrew]

Easier solution to keep college sports having 30 year olds is allowing NIL at all levels. It won't trickle down, but allowing it would eliminate any anti-trust issues.

How does that address this particular problem?? A player is suing saying he should be allowed to play additional seasons and that the NCAA has no right to limit him. The concern is that if the courts rule in his favor, then they'll do so on the basis that they believe the NCAA has no legal right to limit how many seasons players can play. If they want to play a 5th, a 6th, an 8th, or a 28th year and a school is willing to put them on their roster, then so be it.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

How does that address this particular problem?? A player is suing saying he should be allowed to play additional seasons and that the NCAA has no right to limit him. The concern is that if the courts rule in his favor, then they'll do so on the basis that they believe the NCAA has no legal right to limit how many seasons players can play. If they want to play a 5th, a 6th, an 8th, or a 28th year and a school is willing to put them on their roster, then so be it.

I believe the claim was playing and not being eligible to receive NIL. Make all levels NIL eligible and keep the time steady at 4 years. Problem solved, capitalism will most likely keep any material level of NIL away from lower levels of collegiate play.

[xubrew]

I believe the claim was playing and not being eligible to receive NIL. Make all levels NIL eligible and keep the time steady at 4 years. Problem solved, capitalism will most likely keep any material level of NIL away from lower levels of collegiate play.

The claim was not being able to play due to exhausting eligibility, and because he cannot play he cannot receive the same NIL endorsements.

In short, he wants to play more than four seasons and is suing because the NCAA does not allow it.

This is not a rock solid case, but I still think it's foolish for the NCAA to just ignore it and think that it doesn't have a chance.