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HomerCecil
10-24-2024, 11:00 AM
The Big East preseason coaches poll was released yesterday:

1. UConn – 100 (10 first-place votes)
2. Creighton – 91 (1)
3. Providence – 71
4. St. John's - 67
5. Georgetown – 66
6. Villanova – 56
7. Seton Hall – 51
8. Butler – 46
9. DePaul – 24
10. Marquette - 23
11. Xavier - 10

The 10 points mean that Xavier was picked last on all 10 ballots (coaches do not vote on their own team), which shouldn't be surprising at this point. Many on the board seem to think this is perfectly acceptable since Xavier has modest success in non-revenue sports.

However, the team is really much more Billie's team than last year with 8 newcomers. Xavier also has 12 international players this season, which is more than any other team in Division I.

Not really much else to say but perhaps they'll surprise us.

Xville
10-24-2024, 11:50 AM
The bar is really low at this point. Just showing some improvement, and something to build on for future years would be nice and different.

bjf123
10-24-2024, 01:27 PM
12 international players? What’s that leave, 3 from the US? I just hope they’re competitive this year!


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HomerCecil
10-24-2024, 02:02 PM
12 international players? What’s that leave, 3 from the US? I just hope they’re competitive this year!


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Four, I think. This is from the release on goxavier.com about the preseason poll being released:

Xavier enters the season with 12 international players, the most in NCAA DI Women's Basketball this season. The 12 international players are from the following countries: Spain (4), Finland, Australia, Slovakia, Croatia, Germany, Serbia, England, Republic of Georgia.

paulxu
10-24-2024, 02:09 PM
Four, I think. This is from the release on goxavier.com about the preseason poll being released:

Xavier enters the season with 12 international players, the most in NCAA DI Women's Basketball this season. The 12 international players are from the following countries: Spain (4), Finland, Australia, Slovakia, Croatia, Germany, Serbia, England, Republic of Georgia.

It’s the European national team with a token lady from Australia.

Xville
11-05-2024, 05:51 PM
Looks like same shit different year. Way to go Greg Christopher!!!

Down 20 with four minutes left… women have scored 4 points in the second half against powerhouse San Jose state. I mean they did win 18 games…… in total over the last three years

Cornbread1190
11-05-2024, 10:02 PM
Greg Christopher Pack up your personal belongings… you got to go!
This program has never recovered from the Brian Neal experiment…
Christopher has been a failure in picking a leader that can champion a winning women’s basketball program.

GoMuskies
11-05-2024, 10:24 PM
I'm not a huge Christopher guy, but I DEFINITELY don't think we should fire an AD because our women's basketball program stinks.

Xville
11-06-2024, 03:11 AM
I'm not a huge Christopher guy, but I DEFINITELY don't think we should fire an AD because our women's basketball program stinks.

Picking Steele over Kelsey is a fireable offense, the rest is gravy. Christopher is a dork who failed up his entire career, and he should have been gone long ago.

bjf123
11-06-2024, 06:23 AM
Picking Steele over Kelsey is a fireable offense, the rest is gravy. Christopher is a dork who failed up his entire career, and he should have been gone long ago.

Can we blame him for the parking debacle? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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X-band '01
11-06-2024, 06:35 AM
Women's basketball is the only sport that has been on a decidedly downward trajectory under Greg Christopher. Soccer's been on the upswing, baseball has been competitive (with the occasional NCAA Tournament appearance). Volleyball has also had occasional decent seasons, but nobody outside of Creighton and Marquette has cracked the top of the league there.

Xville
11-06-2024, 06:45 AM
Women's basketball is the only sport that has been on a decidedly downward trajectory under Greg Christopher. Soccer's been on the upswing, baseball has been competitive (with the occasional NCAA Tournament appearance). Volleyball has also had occasional decent seasons, but nobody outside of Creighton and Marquette has cracked the top of the league there.

Men’s soccer is going back to not being good, and volleyball is on the same trajectory it has been for 25 years. Pure mediocrity which is not surprising since the coach went to Dayton

Cornbread1190
11-06-2024, 07:06 AM
Christopher and Billi Chambers who only wants to vacation on Xavier’s dime recruiting Foreign players should be Fired for this Performance!
Trump = Close the borders, finish that wall. America first! We have great players here in the home land! USA, USA, USA! Fight, Fight, Fight!
SJSU 10 6 21 18 55
XAVIER 13 8 6 9 36

GoMuskies
11-06-2024, 07:26 AM
Women's basketball is the only sport that has been on a decidedly downward trajectory under Greg Christopher. Soccer's been on the upswing, baseball has been competitive (with the occasional NCAA Tournament appearance). Volleyball has also had occasional decent seasons, but nobody outside of Creighton and Marquette has cracked the top of the league there.

Umm, might want to check on the men's basketball program's trajectory under Christopher.

HomerCecil
11-06-2024, 07:59 AM
All I will say at this point is that it's actually really, really hard to be this bad for this long. It's truly staggering. This is not, "Oh, the women's program isn't very good or is having a rough patch." This is the worst power conference program in the sport of women's basketball, and it has been for several years and across multiple coaching regimes. Total incompetence and I applaud Christopher for pulling it off.

https://x.com/PrezHanycz/status/1735850779779436883

That's a tweet from the university president from December 15. it must be a really, really, really long road.

Xville
11-06-2024, 08:35 AM
I don't understand the strategy of building up your team with a bunch of international players when your campus is in the middle of a talent rich high school basketball location. It makes zero sense. Yes, you aren't going to go steal recruits from Louisville, UK, Ohio State, but what you can do is start to foster relationships at the local and regional level so that at the least, Xavier's name is being mentioned and you can establish pipelines. Maybe you start getting those 2nd or 3rd best players on the teams...that's how I'd build. I don't understand the strat at all.

Cornbread1190
11-06-2024, 09:13 AM
I don't understand the strategy of building up your team with a bunch of international players when your campus is in the middle of a talent rich high school basketball location. It makes zero sense. Yes, you aren't going to go steal recruits from Louisville, UK, Ohio State, but what you can do is start to foster relationships at the local and regional level so that at the least, Xavier's name is being mentioned and you can establish pipelines. Maybe you start getting those 2nd or 3rd best players on the teams...that's how I'd build. I don't understand the strat at all.

Only explanation, Kamala Chambers open Border policy.

HomerCecil
11-06-2024, 02:35 PM
I went and looked at the play-by-play. Xavier hit 21 points with 4:18 left in the second quarter. They were at 27 points with 1:43 left in the fourth quarter (before scoring 9 points in the last 103 seconds of the game).

This means that over a span of 23 minutes and 59 seconds of game action, they scored a total of six points. That's like a middle school-level performance.

muskiefan82
11-10-2024, 07:55 PM
I have to know. Did Steele coach the Miami women's team tonight?

Xville
11-18-2024, 02:45 PM
Thw women, thru 3 games, have already surpassed last year's win total. I dunno what to say about it more than that lol.

noteggs
11-18-2024, 06:44 PM
The Chambers effect! Not sure what that means as well..

Section 200
11-19-2024, 08:49 PM
3 wins in a row! Maybe we get a few Big East wins this year

bjf123
11-19-2024, 09:23 PM
3 wins in a row! Maybe we get a few Big East wins this year

Way to go, ladies!


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HomerCecil
11-27-2024, 07:54 AM
Hey, credit where credit is due. At 4-2, they have more wins than either of the past two seasons (actually, as many wins as both seasons combined).

Xville
11-27-2024, 08:01 AM
Hey, credit where credit is due. At 4-2, they have more wins than either of the past two seasons (actually, as many wins as both seasons combined).

agreed. They aren't going to be cutting the nets down any time soon but progress is progress. Maybe they can win a few BE games.

HomerCecil
12-02-2024, 09:17 AM
The team is 4-3 after yesterday's 72-60 setback at Eastern Michigan, who was 0-5 entering the game. In the first edition of the NET rankings, they are at 261, which seems about right. They were north of 300 last year, so a modest improvement. The next-worst high major team is Houston at 236.

Creighton comes to Cintas on Wednesday morning (11 a.m. tip) to open Big East play. Creighton is at 39 in the NET rankings. UConn is 4th and is really the only surefire NCAA tournament team in the league, so there are chances for wins.

Xville
12-02-2024, 09:33 AM
The team is 4-3 after yesterday's 72-60 setback at Eastern Michigan, who was 0-5 entering the game. In the first edition of the NET rankings, they are at 261, which seems about right. They were north of 300 last year, so a modest improvement. The next-worst high major team is Houston at 236.

Creighton comes to Cintas on Wednesday morning (11 a.m. tip) to open Big East play. Creighton is at 39 in the NET rankings. UConn is 4th and is really the only surefire NCAA tournament team in the league, so there are chances for wins.

What are the chances you think that they could pick up at least 3-4 BE wins? I know thats a very low bar but at least it would be an improvement. A few building blocks this season would be nice. Just get back to bad instead of worst team in the p5 would be nice.

HomerCecil
12-02-2024, 09:39 AM
What are the chances you think that they could pick up at least 3-4 BE wins? I know thats a very low bar but at least it would be an improvement. A few building blocks this season would be nice. Just get back to bad instead of worst team in the p5 would be nice.

It's hard to say, really. I don't think any of the teams Xavier has beaten are going to be even decent teams this year. I do think DePaul is beatable, and their coach is on a leave of absence. I honestly think just winning 1 would be a good goal.

How things go on Wednesday against Creighton (not expecting a win, obviously) will give a glimpse into how league play might go.

It does seem like the freshman PG from Finland is a keeper, and we had one of those about 20 years ago who was a keeper.

HomerCecil
12-02-2024, 09:54 AM
I should also add that I'd only seen the final score of the game yesterday at Eastern Michigan. Reading the recap, Xavier was ahead by 20 points at halftime, but Eastern Michigan outscored them 47-15 in the second half. That's just bizarre.

HomerCecil
12-04-2024, 02:12 PM
Creighton took a 42-19 halftime lead, which eventually ballooned to a 33-point lead en route to an 82-54 win at Cintas to open Big East play.

I am bored at work today so I looked up what the ESPN Analytics Matchup projector says about Xavier's odds to win games the rest of the season:

Opponent -- Xavier's chances of winning

at Bowling Green -- 6% chance of Xavier win
vs. Cincinnati -- 7%
vs. Temple (in Berkeley, California) -- 7%
vs. Fordham/at California (Berkeley, California) -- no odds
at Georgetown -- 6%
vs. DePaul -- 11.9%
at UConn -- 1% (so you're saying there's a chance!)
vs. St. John's -- 2.9%
at Providence -- 6.5%
vs. Butler -- 5.2%
at DePaul -- 5.5%
at Villanova -- 1%
vs. Marquette -- 4.9%
at St. Johns -- 1.3%
vs. Georgetown -- 12.9%
at Seton Hall -- 3.1%
vs. Providence -- 13.7%
vs. Villanova -- 1.8%
at Butler -- 2.3%
at Marquette -- 2.3%
vs. Seton Hall -- 6.7%

No idea what ESPN's methodology is, of course, but I feel like snapping the multi-year conference losing streak would be a win for the season. I would set the over/under on two more wins this season.

drudy23
12-04-2024, 02:41 PM
I don't pay attention - have they won a game yet?

X-band '01
12-04-2024, 04:39 PM
They have a few noncon wins, but they are nowhere near the quality needed to win in the Big East.

GoMuskies
12-04-2024, 04:44 PM
Seems the season hit its hight point at halftime of that Eastern Michigan game. All downhill from there.

Xville
12-15-2024, 09:23 PM
Looks like the men’s team is not the only one who wilted in the end this weekend. A 1 point lead going into the 4th and lost by 12. Ugh

Xville
12-27-2024, 07:41 AM
Well, they grabbed their 5th win so that's nice. Not sure if they are going to win a game in conference as anyone with a pulse has beaten them pretty soundly, but as low as the bar got lowered last year, this season has at least been somewhat of an improvement.

HomerCecil
12-30-2024, 08:12 AM
Well, they grabbed their 5th win so that's nice. Not sure if they are going to win a game in conference as anyone with a pulse has beaten them pretty soundly, but as low as the bar got lowered last year, this season has at least been somewhat of an improvement.

Agreed. And the Big East is not having a good year -- looks like only UConn and Creighton are going to be tournament teams -- so there may be more of a chance to pick up a win or two. They play at Georgetown (6-5) tonight.

GoMuskies
12-30-2024, 08:18 AM
There's no double round-robin for the women? I am looking at the schedule, and it looks like we only play UConn once (thankfully!).

drudy23
12-30-2024, 09:03 AM
I don't follow the X women's team at all. But the fact that they are this bad is just as concerning as to where the men's program is. They fell off of the face of the earth in the competitive women's landscape. How is that even possible that the fall was this far?

And how can no one seemed concerned about why and who's accountable. I'm not expecting Final Fours, but the expectations sure seem to be the opposite of lofty.

HomerCecil
12-31-2024, 07:06 AM
Going back to his days at Bowling Green, if you look at the basketball coaches (other than Sean Miller) that GC has hired, men's or women's, they don't do well. Bowling Green had a tremendous women's program for part of his tenure, but that coach was there before GC was. As for the current state of the program, it's honestly no worse and maybe the best it's been in three years. Since joining the Big East in 2013, they have never not played on the first day of the BE tournament, and they only have one win in the Big East Tournament. Ever.

The Big East played a 20-game round robin until last season (2023-24). Xavier only got UConn once last year and again this year, so that seems intentional. My guess is UConn wasn't thrilled about playing a team with a NET ranking above 300 twice in conference last year to bomb their strength of schedule.

As for last night, Xavier was competitive through three quarters -- it was 41-37 at the end of the third quarter. Yet Georgetown ended up winning 64-41 thanks to a 23-4 fourth quarter.

DePaul is a mess and comes to Cintas on Thursday. That's another somewhat reasonable shot at a win.

HomerCecil
01-03-2025, 08:29 AM
Well, after spotting DePaul an 18-4 lead yesterday, the women made a game of it, getting within 1 point in the fourth quarter, but fell 65-60. It's only the second time in three years they've lost a Big East game by less than 10 points, so it's a small sign of progress. I do think they'll win a game this year, but it's not guaranteed.

Meri Kanerva, the freshman PG from Finland, had 20 points. She's averaging 11 ppg on 44% shooting and 36% from three, and has a positive assist/turnover ratio, which is impressive given the way this team struggles to score. I think she should make the Big East all freshman team and looks like the best player the team has recruited in a decade or so. Something to build on unless she transfers out.

The win is unlikely to come in the next game, though: They're at UConn next Wednesday (as we already noted, at least they only play once this year).

Mel Cooley XU'81
01-03-2025, 12:50 PM
Finland. Who knew . . .

XUMIOH12
01-03-2025, 01:43 PM
There's no double round-robin for the women? I am looking at the schedule, and it looks like we only play UConn once (thankfully!).

Yeah they changed that before last season. Essentially as a favor to uconn. Frees them up for more higher end out of conference games. They made it where the best two teams from the prior year in the league only play the bottom two teams from the prior year once. I think that cascades down, essentially they made it where the top teams have to play less games against the crap teams lol.

HomerCecil
01-08-2025, 08:48 AM
The women are at UConn tonight. A silver lining is that Paige Bueckers won't be playing after spraining her knee in the last game.

Xavier has lost 44 straight regular-season Big East games (47 in a row counting Big East tournament games). The last win was Feb. 20, 2022 against Butler.

GoMuskies
01-08-2025, 07:16 PM
45-10 at halftime.

LOL. Xavier only took 14 first half shots. The Muskies committed 20 turnovers. Brutal

Cornbread1190
01-08-2025, 08:22 PM
Xavier 27 U Conn 81. lol ��
Greg Christopher your program is a joke!

Cornbread1190
01-11-2025, 10:53 PM
St. John’s 60. Xavier 39. lol. ��
Greg Christopher your program is a joke!

You’re on the Clock! Fix it… or, get out!
Your replacement will fix it!

GoMuskies
01-18-2025, 04:16 PM
Xavier's women defeated Butler today 50-49. That ends a how long conference losing streak? 50 games? 60?

Congrats to the ladies.

Xville
01-18-2025, 04:22 PM
Xavier's women defeated Butler today 50-49. That ends a how long conference losing streak? 50 games? 60?

Congrats to the ladies.

Holy crap they won?!! When’s the parade?

Section 200
01-18-2025, 05:52 PM
Xavier's women defeated Butler today 50-49. That ends a how long conference losing streak? 50 games? 60?

Congrats to the ladies.

Great to get a win over Butler! Let’s get a few more and build for the future!

94GRAD
01-18-2025, 06:58 PM
Xavier's women defeated Butler today 50-49. That ends a how long conference losing streak? 50 games? 60?

Congrats to the ladies.

Extend GC!

bjf123
01-18-2025, 07:39 PM
Extend GC!

Are you trying to start trouble here? [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]


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HomerCecil
01-19-2025, 07:20 AM
Xavier snapped a 47 BIG EAST regular-season game losing streak, earning the team's first conference win since Feb. 20, 2022 at Butler (W, 73-54). The win at Cintas Center is the team's first home conference win since Dec. 29, 2021 vs Butler (W, 77-55).

Congrats! In all seriousness it has to be a huge relief, and the bottom of the BE is middling enough that there are opportunities for a few more this year.

Cornbread1190
01-19-2025, 01:01 PM
Extend GC!

Maybe too little, too late! Is there Chatter that Dr. Colleen M. Hanycz and her executive officers are starting to explore options to move the Title IX programs forward? GC should have put a little more effort in the women’s basketball program. GC only seemed to care back when Neal gave his daughter a spot on the team. That actually bought Neal a few extra years running this program into the dirt!

HomerCecil
02-06-2025, 09:19 AM
The 2000 A10 champions were honored last night at the game against Georgetown, shining another big light on how far the program has fallen since then. I didn't even know they were being honored until a couple hours before the game. I saw Reetta Piipari, Nicole Levandusky, Jennifer Phillips and Taru Tuukkannen in the photos, I'm pretty sure. Unclear whether Amy Waugh was invited ... awkward.

Xavier pulled within 33-28 against Georgetown late in the third quarter, but were outscored 30-8 from then on to lose 63-36. It's a good thing they got the win against Butler. Since then, a 7-point loss at DePaul (also promising), a 15-point loss at Villanova, a 29-point loss at home to Marquette, an 11-point loss at St. John's and a 27-point loss to Georgetown. The home game against Providence and the road game at Butler look like possible chances for wins; otherwise it's 1-17, which is at least better than 0-18 or 0-20.

94GRAD
02-06-2025, 10:06 AM
The 2000 A10 champions were honored last night at the game against Georgetown, shining another big light on how far the program has fallen since then. I didn't even know they were being honored until a couple hours before the game. I saw Reetta Piipari, Nicole Levandusky, Jennifer Phillips and Taru Tuukkannen in the photos, I'm pretty sure. Unclear whether Amy Waugh was invited ... awkward.

Xavier pulled within 33-28 against Georgetown late in the third quarter, but were outscored 30-8 from then on to lose 63-36. It's a good thing they got the win against Butler. Since then, a 7-point loss at DePaul (also promising), a 15-point loss at Villanova, a 29-point loss at home to Marquette, an 11-point loss at St. John's and a 27-point loss to Georgetown. The home game against Providence and the road game at Butler look like possible chances for wins; otherwise it's 1-17, which is at least better than 0-18 or 0-20.

Amy was invited but couldn't make it because her father isn't doing well.

HomerCecil
02-20-2025, 10:26 AM
Xavier nearly made it a sweep of Butler last night, falling in Indianapolis 58-54. Butler is one of four Big East teams with a conference record of either 5-11, 4-11 or 4-12. It's interesting Xavier seems to have better luck against the Bulldogs than anyone else.

The team's net ranking has been hovering around 270 since conference play started, which is better than the 300+ it was last year. They close the season at Marquette and then home against Seton Hall. A win against either of those two is unlikely, so it's looking like a 1-17 regular season finish. This team is marginally better than last year's team, and hopefully they don't lose Meri Kanerva to the portal. She's looking like an all-Big East freshman possibility. We last had one of those two years ago in Fernanda Ovalle, and she chose to return home to Chile after her freshman year rather than stay at Xavier or transfer elsewhere.

Xavier lost its conference games by an average of 27 ppg last season and was last in both points scored and points allowed in league games (scoring 50.4 ppg and allowing 77.6 ppg). This season, Xavier is actually averaging fewer points in conference games -- last at 45.8 ppg -- but the defense has improved and is only allowing 63 ppg, which is ahead of Georgetown, Butler and DePaul. The offense has to get better but those numbers do show improvement from last year to this year.

Also, the Big East is on a pretty noticeable decline on the women's side. UConn will be its typical high seed, and Creighton looks locked into a seed in the 7-10 range. No one else is sniffing a berth unless the world ends and UConn doesn't win the Big East tournament. Marquette, DePaul, Villanova and St. John's have taken big steps back. There is an opportunity for Xavier to become more competitive in the league without getting that much better in the next couple of years.

GoMuskies
02-20-2025, 10:31 AM
There is an opportunity for Xavier to become more competitive in the league without getting that much better in the next couple of years.

That's a pretty depressing thought.

Separately, I loved seeing UConn thoroughly dominate South Carolina the other day. I'd like to see UConn get back to the top of the women's college basketball world.

Xville
02-20-2025, 01:13 PM
I'd really like to ask GC the question of...what does success look like year to year for the women's bb team? How much time have you spent trying to accomplish those goals? What in the actual f is your plan?

Section 200
02-20-2025, 01:49 PM
Do we know who the recruits are for next year? I'm curious if we are going to continue to have an international team or if we are recruting American players. Seems like there should be Ohio-Kentucky-Indiana women that we can get.

bigdiggins
02-20-2025, 04:23 PM
I'd really like to ask GC the question of...what does success look like year to year for the women's bb team? How much time have you spent trying to accomplish those goals? What in the actual f is your plan?

The goal should be maintaining Title IX compliance while we pump money to the men's program.

Xville
02-21-2025, 07:56 AM
The goal should be maintaining Title IX compliance while we pump money to the men's program.

Agree to disagree then. Having a good women's team helps everyone, especially the men's team. It helps in corporate money, branding, marketing etc. Also, considering that the women's tournament now distributes money like the men's tournament, it's even more important. Not sure if you've noticed, but women's sports at the college level are growing like crazy especially when it comes to basketball and volleyball. To not capitalize on that growth is malpractice imo.

HomerCecil
02-21-2025, 11:16 AM
Agree to disagree then. Having a good women's team helps everyone, especially the men's team. It helps in corporate money, branding, marketing etc. Also, considering that the women's tournament now distributes money like the men's tournament, it's even more important. Not sure if you've noticed, but women's sports at the college level are growing like crazy especially when it comes to basketball and volleyball. To not capitalize on that growth is malpractice imo.

Xavier's current net ranking in women's basketball is 267. Here are the other teams ranked 260-275:

Stony Brook
Bryant
Western Carolina
South Dakota
Western Michigan
Detroit Mercy
Xavier
Omaha
Loyola (Maryland)
Binghamton
Florida International
Jackson State
Robert Morris
New Jersey Tech
North Alabama
Samford

Color me skeptical, but I have a hard time believing Xavier is so poor that it can't be better than that list of schools even by doing nothing but leaning on the facilities and air travel (would bet all of the others above bus to games). I have a hard time believing schools like Providence and Seton Hall are pumping huge amounts of cash to fund their women's programs, yet they continue to beat us over and over again.

If we're that poor, maybe the university should fold. I also understand there are a large section of fans -- particularly, I'm willing to bet, old men -- who seem to enjoy the women's program being bad. But there is no excuse for it to be as bad as it's been while GC has been here, and it's embarrassing.

As for next year, the two recruits announced are from Senegal and New Zealand. The coaching staff really has no connections to the area, other than the recruiting coordinator being picked up from the previous UC coach's staff when she was fired two years ago.

GoMuskies
02-21-2025, 11:24 AM
I want the women's team to be good, but I'll admit that as long as they're going to be bad I'm going to find some amusement in how absurdly, almost impossibly bad they actually are. I mean, one would almost have to TRY to be terrible to be THIS bad at a power conference program.

HomerCecil
02-21-2025, 11:35 AM
I want the women's team to be good, but I'll admit that as long as they're going to be bad I'm going to find some amusement in how absurdly, almost impossibly bad they actually are. I mean, one would almost have to TRY to be terrible to be THIS bad at a power conference program.

Oh, I agree. I think it's genuinely almost as difficult to have elite success as it is to be this bad. Based on the coaching hires, scheduling, all of it, it seems like they are trying to be this bad. It's one of the reasons I've continued to pay attention the past 20 years. Train wreck.

For the fan's of the men's program (of which I am, too), I will warn you: If we have to replace Sean Miller at some point, GC's track record of hiring basketball coaches of either gender is abysmal, even going back to his days at BG.

bigdiggins
02-21-2025, 02:27 PM
Xavier's current net ranking in women's basketball is 267. Here are the other teams ranked 260-275:

Stony Brook
Bryant
Western Carolina
South Dakota
Western Michigan
Detroit Mercy
Xavier
Omaha
Loyola (Maryland)
Binghamton
Florida International
Jackson State
Robert Morris
New Jersey Tech
North Alabama
Samford

Color me skeptical, but I have a hard time believing Xavier is so poor that it can't be better than that list of schools even by doing nothing but leaning on the facilities and air travel (would bet all of the others above bus to games). I have a hard time believing schools like Providence and Seton Hall are pumping huge amounts of cash to fund their women's programs, yet they continue to beat us over and over again.

If we're that poor, maybe the university should fold. I also understand there are a large section of fans -- particularly, I'm willing to bet, old men -- who seem to enjoy the women's program being bad. But there is no excuse for it to be as bad as it's been while GC has been here, and it's embarrassing.

As for next year, the two recruits announced are from Senegal and New Zealand. The coaching staff really has no connections to the area, other than the recruiting coordinator being picked up from the previous UC coach's staff when she was fired two years ago.

I don't want them to be bad; however, I am certainly not going to advocate replacing the AD because they are.

GoMuskies
02-21-2025, 02:30 PM
I don't want them to be bad; however, I am certainly not going to advocate replacing the AD because they are.

No, but it's a bit of a cherry on top of our men's program going to shit in the last 7 years.

And I don't really see the rest of the athletics program knocking it out of the park. Baseball is doing nicely for what it is. Men's soccer was doing well for a bit (not anymore). The women were good for a while but didn't end up in the tournament. Others?

Looks like men's golf is off to a nice start.

HomerCecil
02-21-2025, 02:35 PM
I don't want them to be bad; however, I am certainly not going to advocate replacing the AD because they are.

I have never advocated for replacing the AD because of the women's basketball program. However, I certainly can bring up how historically incompetent the program has been under his watch. The worst stretch of power conference basketball in NCAA history, to put it succinctly.

XUGRAD80
02-21-2025, 03:29 PM
There is no reason why X shouldn’t try to be good in EVERY sport they compete in. Including WBB.

Cornbread1190
02-22-2025, 09:28 PM
It’s definitely time to replace GC! He’s required to have winning programs in both the men’s and women’s sports! It’s part of his job description to be competitive. He’s Failed!!

hoopster68
02-23-2025, 01:25 AM
It’s definitely time to replace GC! He’s required to have winning programs in both the men’s and women’s sports! It’s part of his job description to be competitive. He’s Failed!!

GC was recently promoted to "Vice President for Institutional Strategy" while continuing as "Director of Athletics." What does this mean for the women's b-ball program going forward?

HomerCecil
02-24-2025, 08:12 AM
GC was recently promoted to "Vice President for Institutional Strategy" while continuing as "Director of Athletics." What does this mean for the women's b-ball program going forward?

I think that happened in 2023. I doubt it means much of anything for WBB. We're a dozen years into this.

HomerCecil
02-28-2025, 09:55 AM
I watched the team's "highlights" from the game at Marquette in Milwaukee last night. I did a double take when one highlight showed the score as 5-4 Marquette, and then the next play in the highlight compilation showed the score as 26-4 Marquette.

Anyway, Marquette never trailed in winning 62-37 in Milwaukee last night. Xavier scored 11 points in the first half. The regular season ends at Seton Hall on Sunday.

Billi Chambers is now 7-49 overall and 1-34 in Big East play. Her career record as a head coach is 148-202. From the press release announcing her hiring:

"We are thrilled to announce Billi as the new leader of our women's basketball program," said Christopher. "Through our national search, she distinguished herself among our list of talented candidates. Billi has a demonstrated track record of building successful teams, advancing to postseason play and winning conference championships. We are excited for Billi to re-establish our program on a national stage."

GoMuskies
02-28-2025, 10:27 AM
We have family friends whose daughter is a freshman playing for UT-RGV. They're thrilled with their surprisingly good 16-14 season that's going to place them 4th in the Southland. They even almost upset undefeated (in the Southland) SE Louisiana yesterday. Our friend's daughter played 30 minutes and scored 15 points on 5-9 shooting from 3 in that game.

Xavier is ranked #266 in NET rankings. UT-RGV is ranked #204 in the NET rankings. I can assure you this girl would have chosen Xavier over UT-RGV if given the choice. And I'm definitely not saying she was a good enough player that she SHOULD have been on Xavier's radar. But why does UT-GRV have better players than Xavier when I'm 99% sure every player on UT-RGV's roster would prefer to play in the Big East?

It just cannot be that difficult to recruit and coach a roster at Xavier that is better than UT-RGV. Surely you could recruit solely from Catholic girls schools in Cincinnati and Louisville and put together a team better than UT-RGV.

HomerCecil
03-03-2025, 09:55 AM
Definitely a mystery, and something the AD never has to talk about.

With that being said, they almost pulled off a huge upset yesterday, falling 59-57 at home to Seton Hall. The Pirates are 21-8 and are a very fringe bubble team, but this would have been Xavier's first win of the season outside of Quad 4.

They play DePaul on Friday in the 6-11 game in Connecticut in the BE first round. Xavier played DePaul pretty competitively twice this season, so this could be a game.

But, bottom line: Is going from 0 league wins to 1 win meaningful progress?

GoMuskies
03-03-2025, 09:58 AM
But, bottom line: Is going from 0 league wins to 1 win meaningful progress?

Mathematically, that's an infinite improvement!

Xville
03-03-2025, 10:04 AM
Gotta give it to the women's program. They haven't won 10 games in a season in six seasons. That's almost impossible being in a power league. What a feat!

HomerCecil
03-06-2025, 11:02 AM
Meri Kanerva was named to the all-Big East Freshman team. Congrats to her! She put up some nice numbers, especially given the lack of talent around her.
https://www.bigeast.com/news/2025/3/6/2025-big-east-womens-basketball-annual-awards-announced.aspx

X-band '01
03-07-2025, 05:07 PM
Today was a rarity - the ladies' 80-73 win over DePaul was their second win all time in the Big East Tournament. Kanerva hit a half-court shot to end the 1st half and X led by 22 before DePaul came back to tie the game in the 4th quarter. Only this time, they didn't melt in the closing minutes and also beat DePaul for the first time since joining the Big East.

Now they get a bonus day at the Mohegan Sun before playing #3 seed Seton Hall tomorrow.

HomerCecil
03-07-2025, 05:12 PM
Today was a rarity - the ladies' 80-73 win over DePaul was their second win all time in the Big East Tournament. Kanerva hit a half-court shot to end the 1st half and X led by 22 before DePaul came back to tie the game in the 4th quarter. Only this time, they didn't melt in the closing minutes and also beat DePaul for the first time since joining the Big East.

Now they get a bonus day at the Mohegan Sun before playing #3 seed Seton Hall tomorrow.

And they took Seton Hall to the wire on Sunday, losing 59-57 at home. There really might be something to build on here.

bjf123
03-08-2025, 10:32 PM
Great effort by the Lady Muskies, but something like 25 turnovers and letting the Hall go on a 17-2 run late in the game sunk them after never trailing until under 1:30 left in the game. Only scored 4 points in the 4th quarter.


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X-band '01
03-09-2025, 12:42 AM
That's what's happened in a lot of games this year - great defense in the 1st quarter, hold on for the middle 20 minutes of the game and just run out of gas in the final 10 minutes. They didn't hit a single FG in the 4th quarter, but give the ladies credit for a very game effort tonight.

Section 200
03-09-2025, 09:29 AM
I watched the game last night - this team has promise for next year! Still confused why we don't recruit US players, but glad to see some hope for the first time in too many years.

GoMuskies
03-17-2025, 11:01 AM
Unrelated to Xavier...I see that the Ivy League received three bids to the women's tournament. Do you think that's just a reflection of different priorities for female high school athletes when they're looking at where to go for college? Makes a ton of sense to me with the generally meager dollars available in professional women's basketball for more middling prospects to pick Harvard or Princeton over Marquette or Kansas, for example.

HomerCecil
03-19-2025, 09:53 AM
Unrelated to Xavier...I see that the Ivy League received three bids to the women's tournament. Do you think that's just a reflection of different priorities for female high school athletes when they're looking at where to go for college? Makes a ton of sense to me with the generally meager dollars available in professional women's basketball for more middling prospects to pick Harvard or Princeton over Marquette or Kansas, for example.

It could be, but the Ivy getting three teams in is unusual so it could just be a one-off. Two of the three teams that got in are in the First Four. Even on the men's side, the Ivy League has a history of winning first-round games. Yale did it last year.