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paulxu
10-13-2024, 08:27 PM
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paulxu
10-13-2024, 08:28 PM
Too soon?

(why does their logo look like a disease?)

Xavier
10-13-2024, 10:26 PM
You can watch it on Bally sports.

xubrew
10-14-2024, 09:01 AM
You can watch it on Bally sports.

THANK YOU!!!! I did not realize this!

xubrew
10-14-2024, 09:26 AM
It's a charity game where several of the key players involved in putting it together from both schools have been personally impacted by the struggles of mental health. It's actually really cool that this is happening. It's still a basketball game (sort of), but I do hope most people are at least aware of what it is trying to raise awareness of.

muskiefan82
10-14-2024, 11:19 AM
So this is the "Help delusional VD fans" charity game? OK. I can support that

paulxu
10-14-2024, 11:54 AM
Is it wrong that I want us to win by 29?

GoMuskies
10-14-2024, 11:56 AM
Is it wrong that I want us to win by 29?

Yes. You should want us to win by 50.

94GRAD
10-14-2024, 11:57 AM
Is it wrong that I want us to win by 29?

Why do you want to take it so easy on them?

JTG
10-14-2024, 01:36 PM
I know it's UDs Super Bowl but I'm guessing Sean wants to make a statement.

xudash
10-14-2024, 02:35 PM
Yes. You should want us to win by 50.

50 sounds good. I would enjoy winning by 50.

Blowing them out again won't put a dent in their vast reservoir of delusion, but it would once again affirm Little Brother's position in the grand scheme of things. And they'll have to stare at those Big East logos on our jerseys for a couple of hours as they continue to struggle with not making it to the big time.

Play the game for a worthy cause and to gain experience playing in a rowdy away gym, but stomp on their throats doing that.

xubrew
10-14-2024, 02:46 PM
To this day, one of my favorite comments about UD ever came from a friend of mine who is at Ohio State. It was after they had played in the NCAA Tournament. I forget the year, but it was Dayton's Elite Eight run.

"Man, Dayton's fans are freakin' ridiculous!! What the hell is wrong with these people??" (paraphrasing, but you get the idea)

I then explained the obvious reason this was so hilarious...

"They are all Ohio State football fans! Literally ALL of them! These are YOUR people!!"

And...that is ultimately what's wrong with UD fans. It's that they're Ohio State fans.

paulxu
10-14-2024, 04:36 PM
And...that is ultimately what's wrong with UD fans. It's that they're Ohio State fans.

"You can't fix stupid." Ron White

OTRMUSKIE
10-15-2024, 10:48 AM
Didn’t think I ever get to break out my video again!!!https://youtu.be/in46UvidK1s?si=5Z1KN__n9MQ9eH_6

xudash
10-15-2024, 11:06 AM
Well done.

Someone needs to post the DOWNFALL Hitler in the VD bunker video.

Muskeagle
10-15-2024, 12:25 PM
I will be there. Will be interesting to see the team as they go against Posh and Zed. I'm bummed about Traore, but excited to see how this team of transfers looks. I think the injury might lead to more lineup time for Swain...which I'm excited about.

atljar
10-15-2024, 05:09 PM
Alexander has always seemed to give us fits. Feels like hes a 10th year redshirt at this point

X-band '01
10-15-2024, 06:16 PM
Well done.

Someone needs to post the DOWNFALL Hitler in the VD bunker video.

Ask and you shall receive:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ1cwq8-SBQ

"Don't worry, he coughs less than Sean"

X-band '01
10-15-2024, 06:18 PM
"My Fuehrer, Charlotte is also leaving the A-10"

xudash
10-15-2024, 07:22 PM
"My Fuehrer, Charlotte is also leaving the A-10"

1960’s architecture. I’m glad I put my martini down before watching that. Thanks, Band.

xukeith
10-15-2024, 09:21 PM
Bally's streaming maybe?
1 day free trial
https://www.ballysports.com/packages

paulxu
10-19-2024, 08:01 PM
Well?

X-band '01
10-19-2024, 09:09 PM
ESPN+ will also be streaming the game; Joe and Byron will also have the call on 55KRC.

X-band '01
10-19-2024, 09:11 PM
Bally's streaming maybe?
1 day free trial
https://www.ballysports.com/packages

Bally Sports Ohio is also going to be rebranded as FanDuel Sports Network Ohio starting Monday.

bjf123
10-20-2024, 09:22 AM
Bally Sports Ohio is also going to be rebranded as FanDuel Sports Network Ohio starting Monday.

Wonder how much they’ll want to watch the Reds next year, assuming that’s who gets the contract? Bally wanted too much this year.


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X-band '01
10-20-2024, 09:39 AM
After switching to YouTube TV this year, I didn't miss the Reds last season. I keep wondering if Amazon eventually pulls the trigger and gets into RSNs.

But getting back on topic, good to see ESPN+ picking up the slack for today.

xukeith
10-20-2024, 05:29 PM
1/2 way through 1st half. Foster impressive. Pressure defense bothers UD.

Not great offense but it is early .

X-band '01
10-20-2024, 05:53 PM
Xavier outrebounded UD by 5; they're shooting 63% overall (including 4-9 from 3). Dayton shooting 39% overall including 1-13 from outside.

In all, a 46-28 lead at halftime. What a difference a league makes.

XUGRAD80
10-20-2024, 05:53 PM
Scoring will not be a problem for this team. Multiple players that can all score.

Half time and nothing has changed….Dayton still sucks.

ArizonaXUGrad
10-20-2024, 06:03 PM
I am watching on plus. Guard play will dominate this team. Hunter and Free look ok. Dayton just isn’t a good team, Posh isn’t fixing that.

Xville
10-20-2024, 06:05 PM
Take it long and take it hard Dayton.

ArizonaXUGrad
10-20-2024, 06:14 PM
Early second half and Dayton starting to shoot better. Our defense isn’t good either. Curious how Miller coke out after the U16.

paulxu
10-20-2024, 06:25 PM
Why isn't this on WLW?

or somewhere I can listen?

ArizonaXUGrad
10-20-2024, 06:46 PM
Our guards are just overwhelming them. I feel like our bigs are doing the cleanup work. Guys are talking now. Hunter would have just been T’ed had it been a real game. Hunter looks good especially for missing so long.

paulxu
10-20-2024, 06:47 PM
What's the score?

ArizonaXUGrad
10-20-2024, 06:49 PM
63-87

GoMuskies
10-20-2024, 06:52 PM
Always good to spank Dayton

ArizonaXUGrad
10-20-2024, 06:53 PM
Three point shooting has been very good with both Free and Green hitting one.

Xville
10-20-2024, 07:02 PM
lol Dayton sucks

ArizonaXUGrad
10-20-2024, 07:03 PM
Conwell is big, he plays physical. For October the defense is good but with some lapses expected this early. We might hit 100

ArizonaXUGrad
10-20-2024, 07:04 PM
Walk ons going now. 74-95 40 seconds left.

ArizonaXUGrad
10-20-2024, 07:05 PM
74-98 Green and swain had good games.

STL_XUfan
10-20-2024, 07:06 PM
I wanted that FU dunk to get to 100

ArizonaXUGrad
10-20-2024, 07:09 PM
If they played a real game with foul accumulation it would have been worse. Felt like Dayton could not go deep without penalty.

MHettel
10-20-2024, 07:09 PM
Looked pretty good. Sloppy game. Lots of ball pressure by UD resulting in XU TOs.

We have a lot of shooting, and 1 on 1 scoring.

Things to work on for sure, but a W due to offensive skill

xubrew
10-20-2024, 07:10 PM
Well that wasn't very charitable...

Xville
10-20-2024, 07:23 PM
To illustrate how dumb kenpom is in October, Dayton was ahead of Xavier

94GRAD
10-20-2024, 07:24 PM
I wanted that FU dunk to get to 100

Would have been a great way to honor Jimmy Carter

GoMuskies
10-20-2024, 07:25 PM
It's dumb, but last five years is as good as place as any to start. We've kind of sucked 4 of the last 5 years.

Seems we won't be behind them in KenPom for long.

bjf123
10-20-2024, 07:50 PM
Why isn't this on WLW?

or somewhere I can listen?

Bengals post game. Maybe on 550 WKRC?


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xubrew
10-20-2024, 07:51 PM
To illustrate how dumb kenpom is in October, Dayton was ahead of Xavier

Well Xavier and Dayton are actually tied in the NET right now.

ArizonaXUGrad
10-20-2024, 08:13 PM
It was a sloppy game for sure but both teams played hard. X just rolled a D1 team in their gym that will finish well inside the top 100.

xudash
10-20-2024, 08:17 PM
Would have been a great way to honor Jimmy Carter

Well done, BJ.

I’m curious, for anyone who actually went to the game and got into a conversation with their fans, did they actually believe they had a shot at beating us?

I’m trying to get a feel for where they are these days on the delusion meter.

Finally, and I will gladly admit that I am biased, but that building truly looks like it was built in the 60s.

drudy23
10-20-2024, 08:33 PM
8 guys in double figures is a really good sign. I know that won’t be typical, but it shows we have guys everywhere capable of scoring. If they can figure out the defensive end, could be a great year. I didn’t think they were terrible on D, but certainly work to do. Our guards seemed to play aggressive on D.

atljar
10-20-2024, 08:41 PM
Well done, BJ.

I’m curious, for anyone who actually went to the game and got into a conversation with their fans, did they actually believe they had a shot at beating us?

I’m trying to get a feel for where they are these days on the delusion meter.

Finally, and I will gladly admit that I am biased, but that building truly looks like it was built in the 60s.

It was the most subdued VD crowd I have ever witnessed. Calm and relatively uninterested from the tip off on

xubrew
10-20-2024, 08:48 PM
8 guys in double figures is a really good sign. I know that won’t be typical, but it shows we have guys everywhere capable of scoring. If they can figure out the defensive end, could be a great year. I didn’t think they were terrible on D, but certainly work to do. Our guards seemed to play aggressive on D.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I only saw about half of it and skipped the rest. From what I saw it didn't look like Xavier did anything defensively other than play straight man, which is fine, but I don't think they'll always only play straight man.

As for Dayton, they played a matchup where they didn't really match up. I think Xavier had an open shot on pretty much every possession, so... Neither team really seemed to play with any pressure defense either.

It was an exhibition game. Teams oftentimes don't play the way they would in a real game, which I totally get, but as a fan it's kind of hard to tell much of anything from watching them sometimes. 8 guys in double figures is pretty damn good, though!

GoMuskies
10-20-2024, 08:51 PM
It's an exhibition game, so not going to get too worked up either way, but from a glance at the box the only thing that seems worth being remotely concerned about is the fact that it looks like we got essentially nothing from Hugley in 19 minutes. Love to see the production from Free and Hunter and the overall shooting proficiency.

xubrew
10-20-2024, 08:53 PM
It was the most subdued VD crowd I have ever witnessed. Calm and relatively uninterested from the top off on

The players didn't seem all that interested either.

drudy23
10-20-2024, 09:13 PM
It was the most subdued VD crowd I have ever witnessed. Calm and relatively uninterested from the top off on

I’m sure they knew coming in UD wasn’t going to be very good this year. And then they had to watch that and have their fears confirmed. I’m guessing a lot of UD fans drove home tonight thinking of a LOOOOOONG winter.

MHettel
10-20-2024, 09:16 PM
It's an exhibition game, so not going to get too worked up either way, but from a glance at the box the only thing that seems worth being remotely concerned about is the fact that it looks like we got essentially nothing from Hugley in 19 minutes. Love to see the production from Free and Hunter and the overall shooting proficiency.

I havent seen the box score, but I dont recall Hugley doing anything much.

I specifically was looking to see his offense as a passer, and he coughed it up two times in a row. Later, he had a nice inside touch pass to free for a bucket. Didnt see any rebounding or scoring that I recall.

Xuperman
10-20-2024, 09:36 PM
I havent seen the box score, but I dont recall Hugley doing anything much.

I specifically was looking to see his offense as a passer, and he coughed it up two times in a row. Later, he had a nice inside touch pass to free for a bucket. Didnt see any rebounding or scoring that I recall.

X is once again going to be hammered in the post. Hugley did not come close to a comfort zone. It is going to be a regular topic of concern here. However, 1 thru 3 is as deep AND PHYSICAL as any in the BEast.

MHettel
10-20-2024, 10:10 PM
X is once again going to be hammered in the post. Hugley did not come close to a comfort zone. It is going to be a regular topic of concern here. However, 1 thru 3 is as deep AND PHYSICAL as any in the BEast.

I think McKnight, Conwell, Foster and Maddux all proved they could start. But there are 4 of them...so yeah, crazy depth.

Green looked good too. Shooting, driving, ball handling. His role tonight is what we need because he will attract specific attention when hes on the floor. Maybe a BE version of Brad Redford with a better handle and driving skill. looked very promising in my opinion.

Swain looked like Swain looked last year. I want to be sure that Swain turns into JP Macura defensively instead of Jeff Robinson. or maybe I want JPs instinct in Jeff Robinson's body. he could be the defensive disruption and offensive above the rim guy but he didnt show either. maybe I missed it. Still think he can and will. I just expected a wow game.

Free and Hunter looked great. they didnt look like guys that were coming off injuries. Free hit 2 3's, which Im torn about. he shot 14 for 22 in 2023 before he was injured which was great, but they were all shot clock beaters practically. I dotn want Free to be a rhythm shooter. I want him posted, and be available to hit that shot clock 3. 1.5 attempts per game! period. Hunter also looked good. Seemed like situations that would have rushed him in the past were just at "normal speed". i think he could be a D stopper this year. And scrapman on offense.

Still interior defense and OReb questions.

But also, the strenghts of this team were apparent.

Muskeagle
10-20-2024, 10:18 PM
My thoughts from the Arena:

1. very disappointed in the crowd--I was expecting that we were going to enter the "lion's den"...and it was pretty tame throughout (as one person mentioned). I was wearing an X shirt and no one said a thing either. It was odd. A smattering of "boos" when the name Xavier Musketeers was mentioned before lineups and then polite clapping for each name called off on the roster. Couldn't help thinking if we played them twice a year for his career how much they would DESPISE Frosty.

2. Guard play was good and shooting was fantastic. Conwell is REALLY smooth. He played only OK overall, but you can see the talent and fluidity ooze. Maddox buried a 30 footer from straight out at one point. He looked very strong. Also, very impressed with Foster. Didn't look like he has the best handle in the world, but played under control. McKnight was OK but not amazing...but not worried. Green looks much more confident. Happy not looking for his shot early...didn't force. Was impressed that he had two early drives to the basket that resulted in getting to the line...for a quick and easy 4 for 4 on FTs. the more we can get him to the line the better we will be.

3. Did I say the shooting was good? Frosty was 2 for 2 from 3 and Swain even hit one that looked good.

4. Freemantle, sort of had his numbers...quietly. Hit a couple of 3s and that will be be big....if he can stretch the interior defenders out just a bit with the threat of shooting, but he didn't seem all that energized and rebounding position wasn't great.

5. Refs....well, I guess they need a tune up too. Called WAY too many touch fouls and second half turned into a FT parade. We got to 10 fouls in a hurry and then they had to "even it up."

6. Rome....what can I say...he looked fantastic! Really smooth out there and the touch was just like it was in the NCAA run two years ago. He really looked good. The incident that someone mentioned about an in season T....was interesting. Nate Santos had just buried a 3 over ROME and went down the court yelling DIRECTLY in ROME's face. On the next possession, Rome drove the lane...stuck his shoulder into the defending (and moving Santos) and hit the shot for an 'and one.' As Santos was on the ground, Rome gave it back to him, full throated. The whistle put the game in the under 8 time out...so it sort of ended with that, but I'm not sure if they let Rome go a bit....because they had just let Santos do it to him. Not sure, but it was good to see a feisty and effective Hunter.

7. Hugely didn't impress much. He was physical. He looks good at this point (physically speaking), but not very effective. One game, but he certainly didn't do much to make anyone take notice other than commit sort of touch fouls and bang underneath. He did get a put back bucket, but that's about it (and missed the 'and one' FT).

8. I liked what I saw from the team as...team. A couple of times, you could see them talking through a defensive lapse and they worked well with each other about who should have been where. It was good to see them "coaching themselves" and figuring it out.

9. Pace. Oddly, I didn't feel like they played particularly fast, but I guess when you shoot such a high percentage, you're still going to score a ton of points. They didn't seem to have many fast breaks or really push the ball all that much...so was a bit surprised by that.

10. Starting lineup was a bit of a surprise. I thought we might see EITHER Foster OR Swain...but they both started along with Conwell, McKnight, and Free. Maddox...who I thought was sure to start, came off the bench.

X Factor
10-21-2024, 08:23 AM
Everyone needs to chill out about Hugley. It was his first live action for Xavier. Don't forget, a couple of years ago, he averaged 15 and 8 in the ACC. He'll be fine.

This team will compliment each other very well this year. Definitely reminds me of Sean's first year with Souley, Kunk, Colby, etc., but I think Conwell, Maddox, Foster, Green, Swain, can be even better than that group. The only piece missing is a true center, but I'm honestly not too worried about that.

Xavier
10-21-2024, 10:46 AM
It’s a scrimmage. Can’t take too much from it. Offense will be fast with shooters everywhere. It will be exciting to watch. Defensively our guards will have to do a lot. Think last year we had poor interior defense that was magnified by our guards always getting beat. If guards can be better it will make a difference in hiding what will be a big weak spot again. Traore could’ve been a big help in that regard


But man. It will be fun watching our guards and offense this year.

xudash
10-21-2024, 01:12 PM
Everyone needs to chill out about Hugley. It was his first live action for Xavier. Don't forget, a couple of years ago, he averaged 15 and 8 in the ACC. He'll be fine.

This team will compliment each other very well this year. Definitely reminds me of Sean's first year with Souley, Kunk, Colby, etc., but I think Conwell, Maddox, Foster, Green, Swain, can be even better than that group. The only piece missing is a true center, but I'm honestly not too worried about that.

Totally agree. Hugley will be fine.

MHettel
10-21-2024, 02:42 PM
Everyone needs to chill out about Hugley. It was his first live action for Xavier. Don't forget, a couple of years ago, he averaged 15 and 8 in the ACC. He'll be fine.

This team will compliment each other very well this year. Definitely reminds me of Sean's first year with Souley, Kunk, Colby, etc., but I think Conwell, Maddox, Foster, Green, Swain, can be even better than that group. The only piece missing is a true center, but I'm honestly not too worried about that.

What exactly are the Hugley comments that you are taking exception to? He didn’t do much. It’s just kinda factual. I don’t think anyone has given up on him.

Muskeagle
10-21-2024, 04:45 PM
What exactly are the Hugley comments that you are taking exception to? He didn’t do much. It’s just kinda factual. I don’t think anyone has given up on him.

Totally agree. I'm not sure if I was included in the "needing to chill" group. I'm not particularly worried. I think he'll be effective. But he played 19 minutes and committed 5 fouls and didn't do much in the exhibition. I was just trying to give my observations about performance in the exhibition game.

I thought the variety of lineups that Sean used was also interesting. Ran across some UD twitter fans griping about how UD played the exhibition the "right way" by giving so many players a lot of time and XU approached it the "wrong" way by trying to "win." Serious sour grapes. The reality is Xavier's second wave was just WAYYYYYY better than UD's second wave.

What I DID see from Sean was a lot of mixing and matching and trying to find the right combinations. I think they will obviously work that all out.

I think Miller said in post game that they didn't work to get the ball inside to Hugely enough to give him the chance to show what he can do...and that seems true. There was very little interior passing to anyone. Almost every inside bucket we got seemed to come on a drive from a guard or a back down from pretty far out from a big. They'll work that out and the interior game will get better.

xudash
10-21-2024, 05:31 PM
Totally agree. I'm not sure if I was included in the "needing to chill" group. I'm not particularly worried. I think he'll be effective. But he played 19 minutes and committed 5 fouls and didn't do much in the exhibition. I was just trying to give my observations about performance in the exhibition game.

I thought the variety of lineups that Sean used was also interesting. Ran across some UD twitter fans griping about how UD played the exhibition the "right way" by giving so many players a lot of time and XU approached it the "wrong" way by trying to "win." Serious sour grapes. The reality is Xavier's second wave was just WAYYYYYY better than UD's second wave.

What I DID see from Sean was a lot of mixing and matching and trying to find the right combinations. I think they will obviously work that all out.

I think Miller said in post game that they didn't work to get the ball inside to Hugely enough to give him the chance to show what he can do...and that seems true. There was very little interior passing to anyone. Almost every inside bucket we got seemed to come on a drive from a guard or a back down from pretty far out from a big. They'll work that out and the interior game will get better.

That's a fair way of looking at it. I recall - and maybe I'm wrong - a few "negative" comments about him. But I believe he'll prove his value over time.

UD fans have no limits to their small time thinking and delusion. God forbid that we would have athletes who enter a contest where they're focused on winning.

By 29 points in Orlando. By 24 points yesterday in that poorly designed dump.

You just know that, on a not so deep down basis, many VD fans have come to understand their place in the grand scheme of things. Their place is with LaSalle and Fordham. Their place is in a watered down A10.

It's almost impressive that they can still attract 13k fans to their home games with such a bad product. Nasty, bad ROI on a basketball program.

Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
10-21-2024, 05:43 PM
What I DID see from Sean was a lot of mixing and matching and trying to find the right combinations. I think they will obviously work that all out.

I think Miller said in post game that they didn't work to get the ball inside to Hugely enough to give him the chance to show what he can do...and that seems true. There was very little interior passing to anyone. Almost every inside bucket we got seemed to come on a drive from a guard or a back down from pretty far out from a big. They'll work that out and the interior game will get better.

Yeah, I agree and if I have a concern coming out of the exhibition, it is interior post play, offensively and defensively. As noted in Miller's podcast, Hugely has worked hard to lose a lot of weight. So, good for him. I assume he is a solid low post threat on offense but didn't get to see it against U.D. While he worked hard on offense to gain an advantage down low, he didn't see the ball. And there cannot be interior passing if the ball doesn't make it to the interior. That is, no doubt, an effect of having great guard play and on yesterday we had pretty good guard play. We have very solid backcourt players.

When we all heard about Traore's injury, a poster (Hettel I think) pointed out the significance of the injury to our rebounding and interior defensive play. I fear that post will resonate as the season goes on, particularly when we face competent big men in conference and tournament play.

But none of this should be considered a criticism of Hugely.

paulxu
10-21-2024, 07:51 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbrhR4wUEAAzCYo?format=jpg&name=900x900

xubrew
10-21-2024, 09:01 PM
That's a fair way of looking at it. I recall - and maybe I'm wrong - a few "negative" comments about him. But I believe he'll prove his value over time.

UD fans have no limits to their small time thinking and delusion. God forbid that we would have athletes who enter a contest where they're focused on winning.

By 29 points in Orlando. By 24 points yesterday in that poorly designed dump.

You just know that, on a not so deep down basis, many VD fans have come to understand their place in the grand scheme of things. Their place is with LaSalle and Fordham. Their place is in a watered down A10.

It's almost impressive that they can still attract 13k fans to their home games with such a bad product. Nasty, bad ROI on a basketball program.

I don’t miss the A10. At all. I thought then, and still think now, that the people in leadership roles need their houses checked for lead. It actually has some solid programs that care about basketball and are at least ambitious in wanting to be successful. Three programs have actually been to Final Fours in the last 15-20 years or so, and three more have been to Elite Eights. That’s actually pretty good. But the thing is that none of them other than UD’s run (where they just barely made it in to the NCAAs) did it while they were actually members of the A10. Loyola Chicago was in the MVC, and Mason and VCU were in the Colonial. Davidson was in the SoCon during their run.

They’ve also got too many teams that just don’t give a shit about basketball, and are just (poorly) going through the motions. And the most frustrating thing is it always felt like this was who the conference was catering to. I remember being astounded when I learned Duquesne and Fordham were somehow getting bigger NCAA Tournament shares than Xavier was. It just seemed ridiculous!

Dayton does at least care. As much as they seem to chap X’s ass, it was always Fordham and Duquesne that chapped mine. Having said that, Dayton has a power conference level basketball budget. It pretty much dwarfs the rest of the A10. They play 6 buy games and 18 conference games. That’s 24 games against teams they should almost always have a notable advantage over, and it’s not even including the conference tournament. If they aren’t winning at least 20 of those a year, they’re kind of underachieving. When you consider the other 6 or 7 games on their schedule as well as the conference and postseason tournaments, 25 wins should pretty much be the expectation. Anything short of that may not be a failure, but it sure as hell isn’t a success. Yet they’ve failed to do it in six of the last eight years. That’s just not good enough. Once they do they five or six years in a row, which they really should expect to do and be able to given all the advantages they have, then they’ll have a bigger national brand like they think they should.

D-West & PO-Z
10-21-2024, 09:13 PM
Ask and you shall receive:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ1cwq8-SBQ

"Don't worry, he coughs less than Sean"

HA, never gets old. So good.

D-West & PO-Z
10-21-2024, 09:15 PM
I am watching on plus. Guard play will dominate this team. Hunter and Free look ok. Dayton just isn’t a good team, Posh isn’t fixing that.

Yep, some concerns about out big men but our scoring is so good and guards win in March. Love how this team looked.

D-West & PO-Z
10-21-2024, 09:22 PM
I think McKnight, Conwell, Foster and Maddux all proved they could start. But there are 4 of them...so yeah, crazy depth.

Green looked good too. Shooting, driving, ball handling. His role tonight is what we need because he will attract specific attention when hes on the floor. Maybe a BE version of Brad Redford with a better handle and driving skill. looked very promising in my opinion.

Swain looked like Swain looked last year. I want to be sure that Swain turns into JP Macura defensively instead of Jeff Robinson. or maybe I want JPs instinct in Jeff Robinson's body. he could be the defensive disruption and offensive above the rim guy but he didnt show either. maybe I missed it. Still think he can and will. I just expected a wow game.

Free and Hunter looked great. they didnt look like guys that were coming off injuries. Free hit 2 3's, which Im torn about. he shot 14 for 22 in 2023 before he was injured which was great, but they were all shot clock beaters practically. I dotn want Free to be a rhythm shooter. I want him posted, and be available to hit that shot clock 3. 1.5 attempts per game! period. Hunter also looked good. Seemed like situations that would have rushed him in the past were just at "normal speed". i think he could be a D stopper this year. And scrapman on offense.

Still interior defense and OReb questions.

But also, the strenghts of this team were apparent.

Free is going to have the green light if he is open to shoot 3's and I think he will shoot a very high percentage but I don't think it will excessive or a major part of his game just another piece.

D-West & PO-Z
10-21-2024, 09:27 PM
Anyway, always good to win at UDump Arena, no matter the stakes.