Potential new TV partner for the BE

[94GRAD]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5559347/2024/06/12/nbc-tnt-fox-big-east-basketball-broadcast/

[GoMuskies]

I don't like that.

[MHettel]

one more thing they can fuck up

[94GRAD]

one more thing they can fuck up

Who's they?

[Xville]

$ that's all that matters. I'll reserve judgment until I see the new tv contract, but I haven't been thrilled with Ackerman's lead for a few years now. That could change if the contract is aligned with what X needs. However, She's been a little too "thank you sir may I have another" lately.

[GoMuskies]

I'm just not interested in signing up for two more streaming services.

[xu82]

I'm just not interested in signing up for two more streaming services.

Definitely with you on that! I’m sick of it, especially with the NFL. For X games, I think I’d just miss some.

It’s funny how getting abused by the NFL and eventually drawing a line will possibly cause me to miss some Xavier basketball games. It’s part money, part annoyance and hassle. I guess that shows my priorities in terms of entertainment. I bet I’m not alone.


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[Xville]

Yeah I’m tired of all the streaming too. I’ll probably do the same and just miss the ones that may end up on peacock. With Netflix and Disney for the kids, on top of YouTubetv, I think I’m spending enough on mindless television lol

[MHettel]

my son just told me that he heard the Inside the NBA guys from TNT might be involved in the Big East Broadcasts. I know there are alot of NBA "haters" out there, but those guys have a HUUUGE following and could bring alot of eyeballs to the BE. Now THAT would be valuable.

[Xville]

my son just told me that he heard the Inside the NBA guys from TNT might be involved in the Big East Broadcasts. I know there are alot of NBA "haters" out there, but those guys have a HUUUGE following and could bring alot of eyeballs to the BE. Now THAT would be valuable.

Well, they need something to do. They know nothing about college basketball, but at least they are entertaining and like you said have a following

[bobbiemcgee]

I get it on hulu

[paulxu]

I’m not adding Peacock. Joe and Byron will keep me entertained.

[X-band '01]

my son just told me that he heard the Inside the NBA guys from TNT might be involved in the Big East Broadcasts. I know there are alot of NBA "haters" out there, but those guys have a HUUUGE following and could bring alot of eyeballs to the BE. Now THAT would be valuable.


Well, they need something to do. They know nothing about college basketball, but at least they are entertaining and like you said have a following

That would be huge if the Big East ends up on Turner; they're more likely than not going to lose the NBA after this season ends.

[Mel Cooley XU'81]

I’m not adding Peacock. Joe and Byron will keep me entertained.

Paul Speak Truth.

Be like the old days. Just fine with me.

Audio on the phone app is flawless. All over the country.

[bjf123]

Definitely with you on that! I’m sick of it, especially with the NFL. For X games, I think I’d just miss some.

It’s funny how getting abused by the NFL and eventually drawing a line will possibly cause me to miss some Xavier basketball games. It’s part money, part annoyance and hassle. I guess that shows my priorities in terms of entertainment. I bet I’m not alone.


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You are not. If they put some games on Peacock and Max, I guess I’ll miss watching those. It’s not that I can’t afford it; it’s the principle of the thing. I like watching IndyCar, but when NBC only shows those on Peacock, I simply miss those races.


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[sirthought]

The sad part is I don't think all these other media outlets coming in are going to increase the Big East's bottom line over what predictions have been all along.

We've yet to see numbers, but I doubt they get much more than double of what they get now...which in this sports programming frenzy, is kinda lame for a conference that's had as many national champs as the Big East has had in the past decade. Big East has winners, but not very significant ratings.

The other unclear thing is how other non-men's basketball sports are going to be handled. NBC and TNT will have some women's games. But how much? With Fox dedicating much more of their inventory to Big 10 and Big 12 sports, we might not have women's games on their network any longer. Can UCONN women keep them their? On the other hand they might just step up what they show on FS2, but articles have spelled out that Fox gets more ratings from pro wrestling re-runs than they do from Big East sports.

The new outlets with something will be:
NBC
TNT
Peacock
MAX

CBS Sports is still in talks, and they may be on the outs. They'll likely buy rights from Fox if they do have some games. TNT has some kind of deal to air certain sports on MAX through their Bleacher Report branding.

This is going to be a bumpy ride for Big East ratings all around in men's hoops. Let's hope for more national network games on Fox and NBC. It might be a boost for other sports if the streaming outlets are trying to increase what they offer and compete with ESPN/Disney.

Big East has increased their distributions to the member schools 5% this past year, but their overall revenue was down, due to increased expenses for events. Schools don't get even payment, so since 2013 VU has pulled in $10 million more than the next highest earner, which is Marquette. (Val actually took a pay cut this year, while other conference employees got raises.)

https://painttouches.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/image-1.png


And it's notable that even an FBS school like Northwestern gets more revenue than the ENTIRE Big East, mostly from the media rights going towards football. NCAA Tournament credits are super important for the Big East, as they make up almost 1/3rd of the revenue. So getting teams in the dance and maintaining high ticket sales at MSG are super important going forward.

[MHettel]

Maybe I’m old school.

I use my remote for my main “cable provider” to see what’s on. If I like the game, and I get the channel I’ll watch.

On a Saturday, for instance, while I’m doing things around the house I’ll find a game on TV. I’m NOT checking Peacock or Max. I will stumble into games I don’t really care that much about and “watch” them. These are ratings for that game that drive revenue for the TV deal for that team/conference.

If we put our games on some random 3rd tier streaming app where nobody will “stumble upon it”….

Maybe we will pick up some millennials. But we will lose the core BE fan.

Didn’t Larry Scott negotiate a “streaming deal” for the PAC 12 for their renewal….just prior to their implosion.

Stay on mainstream TV. Network and Cable. The Big East is not a big enough brand to convert people. If the NFL can get people to convert, then we should follow. Otherwise…stick to the traditional delivery methods

[Xville]

Maybe I’m old school.

I use my remote for my main “cable provider” to see what’s on. If I like the game, and I get the channel I’ll watch.

On a Saturday, for instance, while I’m doing things around the house I’ll find a game on TV. I’m NOT checking Peacock or Max. I will stumble into games I don’t really care that much about and “watch” them. These are ratings for that game that drive revenue for the TV deal for that team/conference.

If we put our games on some random 3rd tier streaming app where nobody will “stumble upon it”….

Maybe we will pick up some millennials. But we will lose the core BE fan.

Didn’t Larry Scott negotiate a “streaming deal” for the PAC 12 for their renewal….just prior to their implosion.

Stay on mainstream TV. Network and Cable. The Big East is not a big enough brand to convert people. If the NFL can get people to convert, then we should follow. Otherwise…stick to the traditional delivery methods

I'd like for X and the Big East to stay on mainstream tv and I think for the most part they will, but the other side of the coin here is that people have to want to buy the product also. What I mean is that Fox, NBC whoever has to actually want the Big East, and if you look at ratings, the Big East doesn't do great. I think there are a few reasons why...1.) Alumni bases are relatively small across the Big East especially when compared to the SEC/Big Ten. 2.) Big Alumni schools like Georgetown, DePaul, St Johns (up until Pitino) have sucked for a while now. 3.) I think this honestly is the biggest one. Marketing for our conference has been absolute shit. This is my biggest problem with Val and her staff. We have however many basketball champions in the last ten years, and frankly you hardly hear about it. I see advertising during and after the season as extremely minimal and creative content is pretty much non-existent.

Without football, if the Big East is to remain a Power Conference, we need visionaries and extroverted personalities like Gavitt was back in the day. The Big East has to be creative and be on the forefront of innovation when it comes to marketing and content, and I haven't seen it.

[sirthought]

Maybe I’m old school.

I use my remote for my main “cable provider” to see what’s on. If I like the game, and I get the channel I’ll watch.

On a Saturday, for instance, while I’m doing things around the house I’ll find a game on TV. I’m NOT checking Peacock or Max. I will stumble into games I don’t really care that much about and “watch” them. These are ratings for that game that drive revenue for the TV deal for that team/conference.

If we put our games on some random 3rd tier streaming app where nobody will “stumble upon it”….

Maybe we will pick up some millennials. But we will lose the core BE fan.

Didn’t Larry Scott negotiate a “streaming deal” for the PAC 12 for their renewal….just prior to their implosion.

Stay on mainstream TV. Network and Cable. The Big East is not a big enough brand to convert people. If the NFL can get people to convert, then we should follow. Otherwise…stick to the traditional delivery methods

It's all due to market size, right? The networks will pay for the content they feel is going to give them the biggest potential for advertising dollars due to maximised ratings. Schools with 5,000-10,000 enrollments only have a small portion of people interested in following their school's teams. So a Fox or an NBC might be interested in having Big East rights, but it won't be as valuable to them. Especially when it comes to games before the conference tournament, they just are getting more eyeballs on a Tuesday for Ohio State or Kansas than they are for Villanova or Xavier.

So if the schools are telling Val to increase the media dollars coming in, she's going to go for the best offers' bottom line. All the streamers are connected to big networks already (except Prime and Apple). They could show the games on cable/YouTube/Sling. Warner Brothers and NBC see streaming as their avenue to future revenue, so MAX and Peacock are where they are trying to goose interest.

Fans once again get the shaft with having to pay more. Outside of sports, I can get all of my TV over the air. I have no interest in most of what MAX offers. I don't see value in Peacock at all.


And the Pac 12 did just sign a contract with Fox for their two remaining schools!

[xudash]

The Big East appears to be headed towards a media coverage package that spans multiple national networks (Fox, FS1, TNT/MAX and NBC/Peacock). I wouldn't be surprised if CBS dives in as well. The demand for Big East content clearly exists. Keep in mind that WBB is being elevated nationally. We may see a package that includes monies for that, especially since we have UCONN in the stable conference-wise, as well as a few other programs that perform well in WBB.

I used to be hopeful that that the new media deal per BE school would be at least $7 million. I'm beginning to believe it could come in comfortably north of that. The demand for live sports content couldn't be in much better shape. Also keep in mind that the NBA is leaving TNT. That will open up a substantial number of slots they'll need to fill with sports programming, and being connected with them probably can only help with "student-athletes" who have aspirations for making it to the NBA.

Comparatively small alumni bases working against us? No doubt. But that's about the extent of the negative side of the "Ben Franklin", although that particular item carries a lot of weight, or at least deserves to be taken seriously.

On the other hand, we're sitting here with schools that are located such that we cover a substantial amount of the national population. Our largest schools with larger alumni bases - St. Johns, Georgetown and DePaul, may be "waking up." At least they're trying to wake up. This conference has FOUR NC's under its belt since its reboot. That is extraordinary - that must make the B1G, ACC, Big 12 and SEC collectively shake their heads. The BET has been wildly successful. Overall, the brand is strong. I understand it's hard in college sports, especially college basketball, to capture casual fans (i.e. fans watching a game where their school is not involved). However, I believe we enjoy some casual fan interest, especially for our bigger games. IF that grows a little, it can only help. Either way, we're a Tier One hoops product now. We were paid Tier Four money for our content when the conference rebooted in 2013. We were headed for a bump anyway, but that increase will be enriched by the addition of UCONN.

Just as Fox needed a (content) partner when we helped them launch FS1, the current changes in media contracts are swirling around to provide this same or similar dynamic. Our timing is good once again.

I've been primarily nervous about this one aspect of Xavier Basketball's program. I'll be nervous about it until the final deals are done and published. But my anxiety level is dropping. We might see $8 million per school or north of that.

Does all of this come at a real cost to fans? Yes, unfortunately. Yet each fan is free to choose to watch or not watch those games that are placed in "captive streaming." It's the big picture that matters: HAVING THE FINANCIAL WHEREWITHAL TO COMPETE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. Xavier needs for this to work out well. Imagine an additional $4 million per year getting pumped into the Xavier Athletic Department's bank account just from what will become the new media package for the Big East.

Seriously, I just sit back and look at this and just shake my head over the thought of still being stuck in the Atlantic 10 Conference.

[xukeith]

The Big East appears to be headed towards a media coverage package that spans multiple national networks (Fox, FS1, TNT/MAX and NBC/Peacock). I wouldn't be surprised if CBS dives in as well. The demand for Big East content clearly exists. Keep in mind that WBB is being elevated nationally. We may see a package that includes monies for that, especially since we have UCONN in the stable conference-wise, as well as a few other programs that perform well in WBB.

I used to be hopeful that that the new media deal per BE school would be at least $7 million. I'm beginning to believe it could come in comfortably north of that. The demand for live sports content couldn't be in much better shape. Also keep in mind that the NBA is leaving TNT. That will open up a substantial number of slots they'll need to fill with sports programming, and being connected with them probably can only help with "student-athletes" who have aspirations for making it to the NBA.

Comparatively small alumni bases working against us? No doubt. But that's about the extent of the negative side of the "Ben Franklin", although that particular item carries a lot of weight, or at least deserves to be taken seriously.

On the other hand, we're sitting here with schools that are located such that we cover a substantial amount of the national population. Our largest schools with larger alumni bases - St. Johns, Georgetown and DePaul, may be "waking up." At least they're trying to wake up. This conference has FOUR NC's under its belt since its reboot. That is extraordinary - that must make the B1G, ACC, Big 12 and SEC collectively shake their heads. The BET has been wildly successful. Overall, the brand is strong. I understand it's hard in college sports, especially college basketball, to capture casual fans (i.e. fans watching a game where their school is not involved). However, I believe we enjoy some casual fan interest, especially for our bigger games. IF that grows a little, it can only help. Either way, we're a Tier One hoops product now. We were paid Tier Four money for our content when the conference rebooted in 2013. We were headed for a bump anyway, but that increase will be enriched by the addition of UCONN.

Just as Fox needed a (content) partner when we helped them launch FS1, the current changes in media contracts are swirling around to provide this same or similar dynamic. Our timing is good once again.

I've been primarily nervous about this one aspect of Xavier Basketball's program. I'll be nervous about it until the final deals are done and published. But my anxiety level is dropping. We might see $8 million per school or north of that.

Does all of this come at a real cost to fans? Yes, unfortunately. Yet each fan is free to choose to watch or not watch those games that are placed in "captive streaming." It's the big picture that matters: HAVING THE FINANCIAL WHEREWITHAL TO COMPETE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. Xavier needs for this to work out well. Imagine an additional $4 million per year getting pumped into the Xavier Athletic Department's bank account just from what will become the new media package for the Big East.

Seriously, I just sit back and look at this and just shake my head over the thought of still being stuck in the Atlantic 10 Conference.

Will men's basketball games predominently air on FS1, ESPN, NBC, and ESPN2 with less attractive games streaming on MAX, Peacock, and TNT?
X likely will not get as much coverage as these past FS1 tv packages correct?

[xudash]

Will men's basketball games predominently air on FS1, ESPN, NBC, and ESPN2 with less attractive games streaming on MAX, Peacock, and TNT?
X likely will not get as much coverage as these past FS1 tv packages correct?

ESPN is not in the mix.

Will we have coverage like we’ve had it under the existing FOX agreement? No. That’s the “price” for making more money.

[xudash]

This is a good read.

We can only hope he’s spot on with his number.

$10 million would be a good day at the office!

https://awfulannouncing.com/college-basketball/big-east-media-rights-package-rumors.html

[xukeith]

How many more years until X can collect the same amount of big money vs rest of BE?

What is teh timeline when we know what next is happening with BE broadcasts?

[paulxu]

This is a good read.

We can only hope he’s spot on with his number.

$10 million would be a good day at the office!

https://awfulannouncing.com/college-basketball/big-east-media-rights-package-rumors.html

If the BE got 10 million per school, primarily for basketball, that would probably be equal or greater than what a football school allocates to basketball/other sports from their 50 million package.

[MHettel]

How many more years until X can collect the same amount of big money vs rest of BE?

What is teh timeline when we know what next is happening with BE broadcasts?

What makes you think that X is not getting the same money as everyone else? I was under the impression that it’s been equal across the board for many years now.

[xubrew]

I just want to say that...

When you grew up as a huge soccer fain in the 1990s, and on more than one occasion drove to another city just to watch World Cup Qualifiers on closed circuit television because there were only so many bars that were showing it, you're less likely to care about having to download streaming apps. Some of those games weren't even broadcast in English, and we had to beg the doorman to let is in a few times because we weren't 21 (fortunately, they did).

I get it. At least...I GUESS I get it. But...SHEESH!! A much bigger part of me is happy that a video stream of virtually EVERY D1 basketball game is available. We counted it up last year, and I think there were less than 20 games that weren't available at all. I'll take that all day. If I can see the games live, I'm happy. The only time I will ever complain is if I can't.

[sirthought]

How many more years until X can collect the same amount of big money vs rest of BE?

What is teh timeline when we know what next is happening with BE broadcasts?

NO ONE in the Big East gets the same amount of payout from the conference. There is a weighted calculation that depends on your NCAA tournament participation, corporate sponsors, and the conference championship. Media revenue does likely get split evenly at this point, and that's nearly 60% of what the conference brings in overall. The conference tournament and championship is 10%. NCAA tournament money was a whopping 28% of conference revenue in 2023, and a little of that does go to all teams, but obviously the teams that make it and go further get more. And it shows how important it is for our teams to make that money each year, because corporate sponsors only provide 3% of the conference revenue.

I'm guessing we won't know official media contracts until the fall.

[sirthought]

Will men's basketball games predominently air on FS1, ESPN, NBC, and ESPN2 with less attractive games streaming on MAX, Peacock, and TNT?
X likely will not get as much coverage as these past FS1 tv packages correct?

We don't really know yet. The talk I'm hearing is that Fox really wanted to be sure they had the BE conference tournament. But are they interested in carrying all the regular season games like before? Probably not, since they signed contracts with Big 10 and Big 12. But we don't know yet. They might do a thing where they buy the rights to games and then sub contract those out to channels like CBS Sports. And it likely depends on how hot the BE team is playing.

NBC hasn't aired college hoops in so long, it's hard to know if they'll switch up their sports programming now, or put it all on Peacock and hope for the best. USA Network actually had some college hoops the past couple seasons, so they might try to put more prime time games there.

TNT/MAX might be similar, but I'm guessing TNT will want to have more regular network games broadcast.

ESPN likely won't be a factor for any conference games and maybe only a few non-conference games depending on where the away games are played. There's a good chance the UC game would be on FS1 always.

[xudash]

If the BE got 10 million per school, primarily for basketball, that would probably be equal or greater than what a football school allocates to basketball/other sports from their 50 million package.

Great point, Paul.

It's not how much gross revenue a football school rakes in, it's how much such a football school can allocate to basketball after its football team and marching band soak up most of its revenue.

Check this out: https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances (a little dated, but representative).

- Only 11 schools with a 0% allocation.

- Only 35 schools come in at </= 10%.

- MAC schools operate north of 50%.

- UC is at a 32% allocation level. That's from AAC data, but their expenses are going up with their increased revenue.

- Connecticut Big East $99,041,960 $96,742,518 $55,341,505* 55.88%

[sirthought]

Okay, there is a chance that no Big East games would air on NBC. That really sucks!

I did not know this, but Peacock exclusively had 30+ men's and 20+ women's Big 10 games this past season. I don't subscribe, so had no idea.

It was their first year of a seven-year deal. Next season they'll have 50 men's games from Big 10! That's a big change for fans.

Each school appeared at least once on Peacock, mostly on Tuesdays. And they had the first two rounds of conference tournament games.

They also had Atlantic 10 women's games.

NBC didn't even air Caitlin Clarks record-breaking game on their main network, keeping it on Peacock. Same with the men's #1 Iowa vs #2 Arizona matchup.

NBC did air the A10 men's tournament exclusively on USA Network, but also streamed on NBC sports app. I'd rather Big East games went this route.

BTW, it looks like Peacock is offering reduced subscription packages for eligible students for $2 per month. Maybe they'll do the same for kids in Big East.

[xukeith]

Okay, there is a chance that no Big East games would air on NBC. That really sucks!

I did not know this, but Peacock exclusively had 30+ men's and 20+ women's Big 10 games this past season. I don't subscribe, so had no idea.

It was their first year of a seven-year deal. Next season they'll have 50 men's games from Big 10! That's a big change for fans.

Each school appeared at least once on Peacock, mostly on Tuesdays. And they had the first two rounds of conference tournament games.

They also had Atlantic 10 women's games.

NBC didn't even air Caitlin Clarks record-breaking game on their main network, keeping it on Peacock. Same with the men's #1 Iowa vs #2 Arizona matchup.

NBC did air the A10 men's tournament exclusively on USA Network, but also streamed on NBC sports app. I'd rather Big East games went this route.

BTW, it looks like Peacock is offering reduced subscription packages for eligible students for $2 per month. Maybe they'll do the same for kids in Big East.

This reminds me of some of the Fox Sports Ohio coverage in A10.
We were spoiled rotten by FS1 coverage.
Hope X games are easy to find.

[X-band '01]

Had Xavier stayed in the A-10, we would have been scrambling for Spectrum News 1 to get our Xavier fix.

[Olsingledigit]

Even some ND football games were only on Peacock last year. It is the new way of the world.

[UCGRAD4X]

Even some ND football games were only on Peacock last year. It is the new way of the world.

There has been one ND game on Peacock only. It has been a pretty minor game, but this year it is Louisville who beat ND last year. So, a not-so-minor game this year. Not endearing to Irish fans.

[JTG]

It's $6 a month. People act like it's $50.

[xu82]

It's $6 a month. People act like it's $50.

It’s not really the money for me, it’s being bullied into getting whatever streaming service someone else decides I need to get. It’s not a Xavier thing for me, I’m tired of the NFL shoving things down my throat. The fallout of that may affect my college basketball viewing to some degree.

Having said all that, I realize this is the new direction. I get that, but I don’t have to just fall in line. I don’t blame X or the BE because they are trying to keep up, but I may not jump thru all the hoops.

EDIT: I already have Peacock, I think. I can watch stuff on there, but Dan Patrick episodes do not include live shows as they are taking place. Watching delayed makes no sense seeing Friday’s show after a weekend of sports. Is that just me? Do I need a higher level of subscription to see the show live? Anyone else run into this?

[MHettel]

Is it all about money, or viewers? Or both. Or are they intertwined?

If it’s viewers, then yes, the XU faithful will find the games in whatever channel they put it on. But we’re not gonna get 10M a year to deliver this product to just the XU faithful. There has to be 10X that amount of viewers to make the deal work. If it’s on Fox, some random dude can grab his remote and stumble into a decent bball game on a Saturday in February. There will be 3-4 games to choose from.

But that same dude isn’t checking what’s on Peacock. Or any other streaming service. He’s not just gonna stumble into the game.

That’s the problem. Nobody is going to watch the games on a casual basis. The ratings are going to be disastrous. Will we get 10M a year? Yeah maybe. But after that, it’s going to be pretty obvious that the BE doesn’t have enough wide appeal for people to LOOK for the games.

Finding the game on “cable” and looking for the game on an App are very different things . I hope we don’t make this mistake.

[Xville]

Not about the money for me either, but lets be honest...Netflix was once at 5-6 dollars as well. As soon as Peacock gets enough subscribers, their rates will go up..and soon it will be 15 just like everything else. Now, that's like just a lunch nowadays but still.

Kinda tired of having to get nickel and dimed all over the effing place...they should bundle everything together and call it cable.

[webxu]

Not about the money for me either, but lets be honest...Netflix was once at 5-6 dollars as well. As soon as Peacock gets enough subscribers, their rates will go up..and soon it will be 15 just like everything else. Now, that's like just a lunch nowadays but still.

Kinda tired of having to get nickel and dimed all over the effing place...they should bundle everything together and call it cable.

Comcast is doing just that.. the more things change the more they stay the same...

[Xville]

Comcast is doing just that.. the more things change the more they stay the same...

Are they really? What are they charging? Do you get every major streaming service out there?

[xukeith]

Xfinity is $20 a month

[xu82]

It seems there must be some kind of disconnect here.

[JTG]

It’s not really the money for me, it’s being bullied into getting whatever streaming service someone else decides I need to get. It’s not a Xavier thing for me, I’m tired of the NFL shoving things down my throat. The fallout of that may affect my college basketball viewing to some degree.

Having said all that, I realize this is the new direction. I get that, but I don’t have to just fall in line. I don’t blame X or the BE because they are trying to keep up, but I may not jump thru all the hoops.

EDIT: I already have Peacock, I think. I can watch stuff on there, but Dan Patrick episodes do not include live shows as they are taking place. Watching delayed makes no sense seeing Friday’s show after a weekend of sports. Is that just me? Do I need a higher level of subscription to see the show live? Anyone else run into this?

Dan Patrick went to Dayton, so....fuck him. Plus Cowherd is live on FS1.

[xu82]

Dan Patrick went to Dayton, so....fuck him. Plus Cowherd is live on FS1.

I have to change stations when Cowherd starts talking NBA.

I enjoy DP’s format the most. It is the OPPOSITE of ESPN. Coincidence? I’ll forgive the Dayton connection.

[xudash]

I have to change stations when Cowherd starts talking NBA.

I enjoy DP’s format the most. It is the OPPOSITE of ESPN. Coincidence? I’ll forgive the Dayton connection.

I would buy him drinks if he ever wanted to provide an honest opinion on UD/XU when he was in college versus the complete separation between the two schools now. At least he probably wouldn’t show up with some stupid and wrong graphs and charts.

[Olsingledigit]

Ironically one of my other favorite sports to watch is Indy Car Racing and they just signed a new deal with Fox. They were on NBC and Peacock.

[Olsingledigit]

There has been one ND game on Peacock only. It has been a pretty minor game, but this year it is Louisville who beat ND last year. So, a not-so-minor game this year. Not endearing to Irish fans.

The Camel’s nose is under the tent.