Dan Hurley to the Lakers?

[GoMuskies]

Not ideal for the league.

[Xville]

It's a no brainer unless he and his wife just don't want to leave the east coast and family...

Wouldn't be great for the league, but it'd probably be great for Xavier.

[muskiefan82]

Makes sense. He is made for WHINE country

[paulxu]

When your players make a lot more than you do, you need to have a different coaching style.
Wonder if he would fit well.

[GoMuskies]

It's a no brainer unless he and his wife just don't want to leave the east coast and family...

Wouldn't be great for the league, but it'd probably be great for Xavier.

It would be great for Xavier in the short term, definitely.

[Xville]

When your players make a lot more than you do, you need to have a different coaching style.
Wonder if he would fit well.

I guess Lebron yeah but Kerr makes 17 million...I'm guessing that Hurley if he takes the job is going to be in that neighborhood. The average nba salary is around 10 million...he'd definitely be making more than that.

Honestly if I'm Hurley, I'm telling Buss I'll take the job if Lebron is gone. Lebron is a coach killer that I'd want no part of...he almost killed Spoelstra's career and he's one of the best coaches out there.

[GoMuskies]

Honestly if I'm Hurley, I'm telling Buss I'll take the job if Lebron is gone.

If I'm Hurley, I'm telling Buss I'll take the job if they guarantee me $20 million a year for about 8 years. And then who cares if Lebron kills your career?

[murray87]

Hurley seems crazy enough to be able to battle LeBron's bullcrap

[drudy23]

As much noise as there is around this, I will still be surprised if it actually happens.

That is an enormous change in lifestyle from someone who has said he's not seeking that out.

[MHettel]

What does this say about the state of the college game?

Hurley has a top 5 job where he could contend for championships for the next 20 years. He’s got 2 rings already. He can reach legendary status, if he’s not there already. It’s hard to imagine a single reason someone would even consider leaving that spot.

Alternatively, the Lakers, while a legendary franchise are not currently in a position to contend and don’t have talent or a surplus of picks to be in that position anytime soon. Strip away that logo, and their attractiveness falls in the middle of the pack as a coaching opportunity.

Sure the money might be 2X, but there is literally nothing else about this opportunity that exceeds what he’s already got.

[Xville]

What does this say about the state of the college game?

Hurley has a top 5 job where he could contend for championships for the next 20 years. He’s got 2 rings already. He can reach legendary status, if he’s not there already. It’s hard to imagine a single reason someone would even consider leaving that spot.

Alternatively, the Lakers, while a legendary franchise are not currently in a position to contend and don’t have talent or a surplus of picks to be in that position anytime soon. Strip away that logo, and their attractiveness falls in the middle of the pack as a coaching opportunity.

Sure the money might be 2X, but there is literally nothing else about this opportunity that exceeds what he’s already got.

It doesn't say anything about the college game. This is the Lakers....it's a top five job in all of American Sports. And it wouldn't be 2x the money, it'd at least be 3x. And strip away the logo? Yeah ok lol that makes no sense. You're trying to put a square peg in a round hole because you have a certain narrative you are trying to protect. While that's admirable, that doesn't work here.

[bleedXblue]

Lakers going to offer 20M+ a year- hard to turn that down

[GoMuskies]

It says the same thing about college basketball as it did when Rick Pitino, John Calipari, Billy Donovan, Lon Kruger, John Beilein , PJ Calesimo and Brad Stevens did the same thing.

[MHettel]

It doesn't say anything about the college game. This is the Lakers....it's a top five job in all of American Sports. And it wouldn't be 2x the money, it'd at least be 3x. And strip away the logo? Yeah ok lol that makes no sense. You're trying to put a square peg in a round hole because you have a certain narrative you are trying to protect. While that's admirable, that doesn't work here.

Well, we can revisit this conversation if he takes the job and gets shitcanned in 3 years. The Lakers are not in a positon to win. And that Logo doesnt score any points or grab any rebounds.

Im sure Rick Pitino and John Calipari saw the world the same way you do when they both made the mistake of leaving the college game 20+ years ago. Hell, Pitino was the PRESIDENT of the Celtics. Coach of the Lakers doesnt even hold a candle to that.

[MHettel]

It says the same thing about college basketball as it did when Rick Pitino, John Calipari, Billy Donovan, Lon Kruger, John Beilein , PJ Calesimo and Brad Stevens did the same thing.

I lost count of how many rings those guys have won in the NBA. what is it, zero?

[MHettel]

It says the same thing about college basketball as it did when Rick Pitino, John Calipari, Billy Donovan, Lon Kruger, John Beilein , PJ Calesimo and Brad Stevens did the same thing.

Career Records:

Pitnio- 192-220
Calipari- 72-112
Donovan- 399-319
Kruger- 69-122
Beilein- 14-40
Caresimo- 239-315
Stevens- 354-282

Total: 1339-1410
Win %: 48.7%

33.5 combined Season- 4.8 years per guy.

Compelling!

John Beilein made it just over half a season. And he was known as a hard nosed guy. Does that remind you of anyone?

Hurley is NOT NBA material. The fact that the Lakers are going after him does not validate him as an NBA "type" of coach. The Lakers have made so many mistakes over the last 10+ years in SPITE of the fact that they are teh #1 destination for NBA players.

[Xville]

Well, we can revisit this conversation if he takes the job and gets shitcanned in 3 years. The Lakers are not in a positon to win. And that Logo doesnt score any points or grab any rebounds.

Im sure Rick Pitino and John Calipari saw the world the same way you do when they both made the mistake of leaving the college game 20+ years ago. Hell, Pitino was the PRESIDENT of the Celtics. Coach of the Lakers doesnt even hold a candle to that.

At worst, Hurley would be 60ish million dollars richer and then can go coach in college if it doesn’t work out. Doesn’t mean you don’t go try for one of th best organizations in sports. Cal and pitino both have championships since coming back from the nba. Regardless, none of this decision making says anything about the college game no matter how hard you try

[MHettel]

At worst, Hurley would be 60ish million dollars richer and then can go coach in college if it doesn’t work out. Doesn’t mean you don’t go try for one of th best organizations in sports. Cal and pitino both have championships since coming back from the nba. Regardless, none of this decision making says anything about the college game no matter how hard you try

Well, Seth Greenberg seems to see things the way I do. You should check out his clip on ESPN. I'd consider him to have a little more credibility than you, since you know, hes a former coach and very connected to the game.

[94GRAD]

What does this say about the state of the college game?

Hurley has a top 5 job where he could contend for championships for the next 20 years. He’s got 2 rings already. He can reach legendary status, if he’s not there already. It’s hard to imagine a single reason someone would even consider leaving that spot.

Alternatively, the Lakers, while a legendary franchise are not currently in a position to contend and don’t have talent or a surplus of picks to be in that position anytime soon. Strip away that logo, and their attractiveness falls in the middle of the pack as a coaching opportunity.

Sure the money might be 2X, but there is literally nothing else about this opportunity that exceeds what he’s already got.

What it was is that some coaches, no matter how well they're doing in College, have the ambition to coach the greatest players at the highest level.

[GoMuskies]

Career Records:

Pitnio- 192-220
Calipari- 72-112
Donovan- 399-319
Kruger- 69-122
Beilein- 14-40
Caresimo- 239-315
Stevens- 354-282

Total: 1339-1410
Win %: 48.7%

33.5 combined Season- 4.8 years per guy.

Compelling!

John Beilein made it just over half a season. And he was known as a hard nosed guy. Does that remind you of anyone?

Hurley is NOT NBA material. The fact that the Lakers are going after him does not validate him as an NBA "type" of coach. The Lakers have made so many mistakes over the last 10+ years in SPITE of the fact that they are teh #1 destination for NBA players.

I agree. Those guys mostly sucked in the NBA. But they all left safe, fantastic college jobs for the NBA. And it didn't say anything about the college game at the time, and it doesn't say anything about college basketball for Hurley to do this now. Other than it says the NBA pays better.

College football coaches do the same thing and often suck in the NFL. Often hilariously so (I'm looking at you Bobby Petrino and Urban Meyer.)

[GoMuskies]

Well, Seth Greenberg seems to see things the way I do. You should check out his clip on ESPN. I'd consider him to have a little more credibility than you, since you know, hes a former coach and very connected to the game.

Seth Greenberg also got the same number of offers to head coach in the NBA as you did.

[94GRAD]

Well, Seth Greenberg seems to see things the way I do. You should check out his clip on ESPN. I'd consider him to have a little more credibility than you, since you know, hes a former coach and very connected to the game.

I would be hesitant on being on the same side as Seth on basketball takes.

[Xville]

Well, Seth Greenberg seems to see things the way I do. You should check out his clip on ESPN. I'd consider him to have a little more credibility than you, since you know, hes a former coach and very connected to the game.

lol yes of course the espn college basketball analyst that has bias and interest in Hurley staying in college says that.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

At worst, Hurley would be 60ish million dollars richer and then can go coach in college if it doesn’t work out. Doesn’t mean you don’t go try for one of th best organizations in sports. Cal and pitino both have championships since coming back from the nba. Regardless, none of this decision making says anything about the college game no matter how hard you try

This is so true, for Hurley it does not matter if he wins or not. This is a massive amount of wealth he can take from the Lakers if he signs.

The NBA has been reduced to a league where you need two superstars starting and a young star in the making on your roster. Add to that a bunch of super physical guys who do all the dirty work and you have a shot. The suns learned that lesson when they added Durant at the expense of those vets who did their dirty work.

I watch virtually zero NBA, but I would guess Hurley is not being brought in to coach James/Davis. I could see the Lakers gutting the team, get what picks they can, and lure a superstar or two with huge money.

[bjf123]

I can envision this exchange.

Hurley: “Lebron, I need you get step it up on D on this next possession.”

Lebron: “Say what? Step it up on D? Don’t you know who I am?”


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[paulxu]

I can envision this exchange.

Hurley: “Lebron, I need you get step it up on D on this next possession.”

Lebron: “Say what? Step it up on D? Don’t you know who I am?”


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Davis makes $40 million/year. Lebron $47.

[xu82]

Seth Greenberg also got the same number of offers to head coach in the NBA as you did.

Our kids went to USF hoops camp when he was there. Never liked the guy, and a bit surprised he landed on TV.

If Hurley can make a ton more money and not have to bother with recruiting and the portal, trading the Northeast for LA, I couldn’t blame the guy.

[MHettel]

I see some points here....

But knowing Dan Hurley, do you think he'd be "happier" in scenario A or B?

A) Stay at UConn, make $8M a year and win 85% of the games.

B) Go to the Lakers, make $20M a year and win 55% of the games.

Dan Hurley may hate losing more than ANYONE on the planet.

He will be tortured in the NBA (and rich).

[xu82]

I see some points here....

But knowing Dan Hurley, do you think he'd be "happier" in scenario A or B?

A) Stay at UConn, make $8M a year and win 85% of the games.

B) Go to the Lakers, make $20M a year and win 55% of the games.

Dan Hurley may hate losing more than ANYONE on the planet.

He will be tortured in the NBA (and rich).

I don’t know Dan Hurley, I’ve never even met him, but he’s got some fine options to choose from! We will find out what is important to him when this plays out, it seems. What you or I think is reasonable doesn’t matter here.

[drudy23]

If the Lakers are truly offering $20M/Yr, that seems desperate, and a huge risk. But $20M is $20M, hard to turn down.

The job is night and day different, where you have alot of control (college) to minimal control (NBA).

I'm not sure if he's perfect for the NBA or if it will be a disaster. I'm guessing he's talking to alot of successful coaches to see what it takes to succeed. If you watched the most recent Miller podcast, he said he always followed the Pat Riley rules:

1) You have to work as hard (or harder) as everyone in the building
2) You have to prove your competence (or they will tune you out)
3) You have to tell the truth

[UCGRAD4X]

Davis makes $40 million/year. Lebron $47.

How many professional athletes make more than their coach/manager?

[XUGRAD80]

How many professional athletes make more than their coach/manager?

Lots and lots.

[nuts4xu]

How many professional athletes make more than their coach/manager?

It won't be long before we see college athletes make more than their coach.

[xu82]

It won't be long before we see college athletes make more than their coach.

We’ve already seen college QB’s make more than NFL QB’s. (See ‘Bama and the Eagles.) Crazy times!

[Xville]

The plot thickens a bit. It's being reported that Hurley now has a current contract offer from UCONN that would make him a top 3 paid College basketball coach so somewhere in the 7 to 8 range.

Was this just a play by Hurley to get more money? It's kind of strange but it's also been reported that UCONN hadn't upped his contract since this last title....interesting.

Aaron Torress seems to think both sides win here...Hurly gets paid, and Lakers make it look like they did a real search before hiring whoever Lebron actually wants. Torress is a UCONN alum though so this may be all wishful thinking by him and Hurley is gone....

[murray87]

Preach it Charles:

https://www.outkick.com/sports/charles-barkley-ncaa-dan-hurley-auburn

[drudy23]

Preach it Charles:

https://www.outkick.com/sports/charles-barkley-ncaa-dan-hurley-auburn

As usual, Charles is 100% on the money.

[MHettel]

Wow. Some of us were calling this years ago.

[Xville]

I’d love to ask Charles how he thinks the other 99% are getting screwed because they “need college to get an education.”

[MHettel]

I’d love to ask Charles how he thinks the other 99% are getting screwed because they “need college to get an education.”

This is really the follow up question you’d ask?

Barkley is connected at all levels in basketball and has a sense for what’s going on across the collegiate sports landscape. He accurately portrays the portal and NIL situations as a “catalyst” event towards a future state where there are no more “ten dollar tables” where anyone can play. The stakes are going to get higher…..much higher. Many schools will just walk away and shutter their entire sports program. Others will decide they only want to proceed with the revenue sports in the hopes they can fund the payouts to the players.

Athletes in non-revenue sports will lose their opportunities to get a free college education as a result of this mess. Many of those kids have no other means to get that education.

[Xville]

This is really the follow up question you’d ask?

Barkley is connected at all levels in basketball and has a sense for what’s going on across the collegiate sports landscape. He accurately portrays the portal and NIL situations as a “catalyst” event towards a future state where there are no more “ten dollar tables” where anyone can play. The stakes are going to get higher…..much higher. Many schools will just walk away and shutter their entire sports program. Others will decide they only want to proceed with the revenue sports in the hopes they can fund the payouts to the players.

Athletes in non-revenue sports will lose their opportunities to get a free college education as a result of this mess. Many of those kids have no other means to get that education.

Athletes in non-revenue sports for the kinds of schools that would shutter their non revenue sports; Most dont have scholarships certainly not full ones. the ones that do (big state schools, p5 or 6 whatever it is now etc) will be able to keep those programs. In fact, for example many college baseball teams will now have a full field of scholarships instead of the 11.7 or whatever it is now. Like much else, Barkley doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He’s good for a laugh though.

[GoMuskies]

My daughter is on full scholarship at a MAC school in a non-revenue sport. She's got three years left, and I'm definitely concerned they won't have the program all three years given the changing landscape.

[Xville]

My daughter is on full scholarship at a MAC school in a non-revenue sport. She's got three years left, and I'm definitely concerned they won't have the program all three years given the changing landscape.

Why? All of a sudden that MAC school going to start paying their football and basketball players to the point where that program closes down? Doubt it. Id be surprised if that school is actually in the black in football or basketball in the first place

[MHettel]

Why? All of a sudden that MAC school going to start paying their football and basketball players to the point where that program closes down? Doubt it. Id be surprised if that school is actually in the black in football or basketball in the first place

Smh

So they are already not making money as an athletic department. And now they are facing a fairly substantial new expense in the form of payments to the players.

And you don’t realize that the way to KEEP the football and basketball teams is to jettison the sports that have no revenue and yet will incur player “salary costs”?

What kind of work do you do? Tell me you don’t have any responsibilities at a major company.

[Xville]

Smh

So they are already not making money as an athletic department. And now they are facing a fairly substantial new expense in the form of payments to the players.

And you don’t realize that the way to KEEP the football and basketball teams is to jettison the sports that have no revenue and yet will incur player “salary costs”?

What kind of work do you do? Tell me you don’t have any responsibilities at a major company.

Think for a moment. Let’s say it’s Toledo. You think that school is going to pay its football and basketball teams to the point it affects the other sports? For what? Why would they? Most likely they aren’t making money in those sports currently. I certainly know in basketball they aren’t in the black. How much you think mac schools are paying their players?

[MHettel]

Think for a moment. Let’s say it’s Toledo. You think that school is going to pay its football and basketball teams to the point it affects the other sports? For what? Why would they? Most likely they aren’t making money in those sports currently. I certainly know in basketball they aren’t in the black. How much you think mac schools are paying their players?

Oh my.

[Xville]

Oh my.

I guess those Mac basketball and football players are part of that 1% chuck was referring to lol.

[Xville]

Anyways back to what this thread is actually about…. Reports are that the contract offered is in the neighborhood of 8 for 100. I know that this decision isn’t so much about money as it is about other things, but to me that’s shockingly low imo, especially for California. Puts him top 5 so there’s that but media kept saying massive offer, massive offer. I wonder if that number is true.

[bobbiemcgee]

Decision tmrw.

[Xville]

is he gone?

Sucks for the Big East, good in the short term for X if he goes.

When you get an opportunity to coach one of the most famous organizations in the sports world, you take it imo, but we shall find out soon enough!

Pitino seems to think he is staying, that his wife doesn't to go to LA...I'd have to think Hurley asked for his opinion, right?

[GoMuskies]

I think he is supposed to announce his decision in 6 minutes.

[xudash]

is he gone?

Sucks for the Big East, good in the short term for X if he goes.

When you get an opportunity to coach one of the most famous organizations in the sports world, you take it imo, but we shall find out soon enough!

Pitino seems to think he is staying, that his wife doesn't to go to LA...I'd have to think Hurley asked for his opinion, right?

You balance what you mentioned about the opportunity, adding the challenge that comes with it, against an understanding of what you truly enjoy doing at the core.

Question: Do NBA coaches actually COACH or do they make suggestions? I don't know. If you're in a huddle with the likes of LeBron James and egos like that, what does that look like when it comes to the decisions being made for play moving forward?

I see Hurley being very much an East Coast guy - a Jersey guy. He'll be wealthy either way.

I have spent a lot of time in LA and I lived in (Fairfield County) CT for a while. Let's just state the obvious - and you don't have to have set foot in either to state it - they aren't very similar.

[Xville]

He's staying per Fanta. Huge for the BE.

Was offered 6 for 70 per Woj....pretty cheap imo

[Xville]

You balance what you mentioned about the opportunity, adding the challenge that comes with it, against an understanding of what you truly enjoy doing at the core.

Question: Do NBA coaches actually COACH or do they make suggestions? I don't know. If you're in a huddle with the likes of LeBron James and egos like that, what does that look like when it comes to the decisions being made for play moving forward?

I see Hurley being very much an East Coast guy - a Jersey guy. He'll be wealthy either way.

I have spent a lot of time in LA and I lived in (Fairfield County) CT for a while. Let's just state the obvious - and you don't have to have set foot in either to state it - they aren't very similar.

Have to think Hurley will take an NBA job at some point---hes basically stated as such, but maybe he'll wait for an East Coach job to open up...Brooklyn, Knicks, Philly etc?

[xu82]

Staying at UConn.

[murray87]

I've always hated the Lakers so this makes me smirk

[drudy23]

Not surprising tbh.

[Smails]

Leverage hits like a sledgehammer..gotta use it when you actually have it. I think Hurley played this perfectly

[XUMIOH12]

He's staying per Fanta. Huge for the BE.

Was offered 6 for 70 per Woj....pretty cheap imo

Pretty cheap? Would have made him the 6th highest paid coach in the NBA....and double what he gets now.

[MHettel]

I wonder how far down the list Miller would be for a job like the Lakers. To me, Hurley was not a good fit at all. proven coach? of COURSE! but his demeanor and style is way to "childish" to play well in the NBA and i think would have been a disaster in LA.

So what did they see in him to think that those obvious negative characteristics could be overcome? Guess it has to be the in game coaching and player development.

I realize he won 2 titles...but he's also operating under the UConn brand. Its not that difficult to get the talent. Winning with it is something he could obviously do.

But back to the question....how does miller stack up against Hurley in player development and in-game coaching?

[GoMuskies]

I realize he won 2 titles...but he's also operating under the UConn brand. Its not that difficult to get the talent. Winning with it is something he could obviously do.

But back to the question....how does miller stack up against Hurley in player development and in-game coaching?

Miller had the benefit of the Arizona brand and couldn't come close to touching what Hurley has been able to do since taking over a clearly tarnished UConn brand. So I'm going to have to be team Hurley on this one.

[Xville]

Pretty cheap? Would have made him the 6th highest paid coach in the NBA....and double what he gets now.

To me, when reports kept saying massive offer ,and in the neighborhood of 100mil, and it comes out to 11 per, that doesn't seem like much to me. Nothing to scoff it, but was expecting more than that.

Connecticut isn't cheap, but its tax rate and cost of living is not LA. UCON will probably get him to 7 or 8 mil now.

[Xville]

"Not that difficult to get the talent." On what planet is that true, especially in this day and age?

[MHettel]

Miller had the benefit of the Arizona brand and couldn't come close to touching what Hurley has been able to do since taking over a clearly tarnished UConn brand. So I'm going to have to be team Hurley on this one.

Kevin ollie won at Uconn while the were in the AAC. So there is that.

is that what you meant by "tarnished"

[GoMuskies]

Kevin Ollie won at UConn as a #7 seed that got crazy hot their first year in the AAC with all the players recruited to play in the Big East. Take a look at how he did the next four seasons before Hurley took over.

[94GRAD]

I wonder what it says about College Basketball that Hurley stayed

[Olsingledigit]

Well he did indeed turn it down and is going for number three in a row. Now stay tuned for the rumors about U Conn going to one of the Power Five conferences. You heard it first here. And they might well go. The only hold back is that there football program is so bad that no conference will want it.

[X-band '01]

Kevin Ollie won at UConn as a #7 seed that got crazy hot their first year in the AAC with all the players recruited to play in the Big East. Take a look at how he did the next four seasons before Hurley took over.

He also had a roster that was largely left over from Jim Calhoun before he retired.

[xudash]

I wonder what it says about College Basketball that Hurley stayed

Whatever it says, it has to be more positive than negative.

I also have to believe that this can only help the media agreement negotiations that are right around the corner.

[paulxu]

Whatever it says, it has to be more positive than negative.

I also have to believe that this can only help the media agreement negotiations that are right around the corner.

What will really help is if UConn remains in the league.
If they leave, it'd hurt the media deal for sure.

[murray87]

UConn has a football program??

[GoMuskies]

UConn has a football program??

Kind of. They've played in the Fiesta Bowl, even!

[Xville]

Hurley says he has a contract in place that was negotiated a few weeks ago from UCONN that will make him the highest paid college coach in America so presumably 10 mil plus. Kind of funny that the Lakers and media said their deal was a massive offer, and considering LA taxes and expenses, was probably worth less lol.

Anyways, how is UCONN coming up with this money? Taxes?

[MHettel]

Hurley says he has a contract in place that was negotiated a few weeks ago from UCONN that will make him the highest paid college coach in America so presumably 10 mil plus. Kind of funny that the Lakers and media said their deal was a massive offer, and considering LA taxes and expenses, was probably worth less lol.

Anyways, how is UCONN coming up with this money? Taxes?

Its no longer UCONN actually. They just announced a marketing agreement.

Its UConnAgra.

[Xville]

Hurley says he has a contract in place that was negotiated a few weeks ago from UCONN that will make him the highest paid college coach in America so presumably 10 mil plus. Kind of funny that the Lakers and media said their deal was a massive offer, and considering LA taxes and expenses, was probably worth less lol.

Anyways, how is UCONN coming up with this money? Taxes?

So, shockingly a college basketball coach lied. His new deal only makes him the third highest basketball coach :)

[murray87]

Cha-ching:

https://sports.yahoo.com/dan-hurley-uconn-agree-to-new-six-year-50m-contract-following-2nd-straight-national-title-offer-from-lakers-151731810.html

[JTG]

Hurley says he has a contract in place that was negotiated a few weeks ago from UCONN that will make him the highest paid college coach in America so presumably 10 mil plus. Kind of funny that the Lakers and media said their deal was a massive offer, and considering LA taxes and expenses, was probably worth less lol.

Anyways, how is UCONN coming up with this money? Taxes?

Connecticut is an extremely expensive place to live also.