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xubrew
05-10-2024, 11:08 AM
Okay, let me first say this. This will never happen. I know it won't happen. I know all the reasons it won't/can't happen. I think I know all the reasons as well as anyone else on here. I'm just asking everyone to suppose this...

What if college football stopped being a part of the NCAA??

Would it be better for college football if it did?? Would it be better for all of college sports if it did??

Most (nearly all) of the rules and legislation that the NCAA has is there because of football. I think this year's compliance manual was close to 500 pages. Had it not been for football, it would have probably been around 100 pages. Every sport has to follow all these rules not because of their own sports, but because of football.

Nearly all of conference realignment has happened because of football. Football is the least in common with all the other college sports. In EVERY ASPECT. The size of the roster, the length of the schedule, the support staff that is required, the interest and attendance levels, how the team travels, the cost of the equipment, and so on. Literally EVERYTHING about football is COMPLETELY different. Both football and men's basketball are revenue sports, but that is where the similarities end. Basketball has more in common with the rifle team than it does the football team. Yet, the reason all these rules exist and all these all sports conferences exist is because of the one sport that is the least like all the rest.

Not all college sports are NCAA sports. There is collegiate rugby, and it's actually growing in popularity. They have no interest in joining the NCAA, nor should they. They are governed by either National Collegiate Rugby (NCR) or USA Rugby. Having a governing body that is concerned about their sport, and ONLY their sport, seems to serve them well. This would not be the case if they joined the NCAA. They'd suddenly have all these other eligibility rules to follow. Same with competitive cheer and dance. It's not part of the NCAA either, and it's doing just fine. I don't know that much about college boxing, but I know it exists, and it's not part of the NCAA, and is instead governed by the NCBA (National College Boxing Association) and again has no interest or need to join the NCAA.

Football is already sort of on its own anyway. The bowls have never been managed by the NCAA. The National Champion at the FBS level is not actually an NCAA Championship. They don't get an NCAA trophy and the NCAA does not manage it at all the way they do all the other championships at all the other divisions. So...would it really be THAT much of a difference if they left the NCAA since they sort of already have anyway??

So...should FOOTBALL not be a part of the NCAA?? Would football be better off if it were on its own?? They can have their own conferences, their own TV deals, their own schedules, and their own rules. Rutgers v USC being in the same conference for softball and women's soccer seems kind of insane, but for football it actually isn't all that insane.

Would basketball and all the other sports also be better off if football were on its own?? I kinda think they would.

So...how about the NCFA?? Let's have the National College Football Association formed, and let them take football away from us, and let's get back to sensible conferences, schedules, rules, championships, and eligibility for all the other sports!! Who's with me!!??

XUGRAD80
05-10-2024, 11:25 AM
I don’t know if football would be better if without the NCAA, but I believe that the rest of the NCAA sports would be better off without football…..and I’m a big college football fan.

MHettel
05-10-2024, 11:30 AM
Why are these teams even affiliated with a college at this point?

xubrew
05-10-2024, 11:32 AM
I don’t know if football would be better if without the NCAA, but I believe that the rest of the NCAA sports would be better off without football…..and I’m a big college football fan.

Would football be any worse off??

If they were just told by the NCAA "Hey, do what you want! Form your own organization and make your own rules. We're done!" Wouldn't they kind of like that?

xubrew
05-10-2024, 11:34 AM
Why are these teams even affiliated with a college at this point?

At the end of the day, big time football schools want big time football for branding and marketing purposes, plus it does generate a ton of revenue for most FBS level programs.

XUGRAD80
05-10-2024, 11:37 AM
Would football be any worse off??

If they were just told by the NCAA "Hey, do what you want! Form your own organization and make your own rules. We're done!" Wouldn't they kind of like that?

Don’t they kinda make their own rules now? Remember the golden rule…..he who has the gold makes the rules……LOL

xubrew
05-10-2024, 11:44 AM
Don’t they kinda make their own rules now? Remember the golden rule…..he who has the gold makes the rules……LOL

Yes! They kinda do! They have (amongst other things) their own championship, their own committee, and their own rules for sharing revenue. Most of the rules changes we have (not all, but most) are brought about because of football. Most of the conference realignment we have is brought about because of football. It causes the most change for its own purposes, yet it has the least in common with everything else. So, when it comes to football, I say the NCAA just tells them "You do you! We can't police you, it's clear you don't want to be policed buy us anyway, and we get none of your revenue. So...we'll focus on all the other sports and let football be its own thing, which it pretty much the way it already is anyway."

Xville
05-10-2024, 11:55 AM
To answer your question, yes it should. It’s ruined a lot of what’s great about college sports. If they go on their own, maybe we can get the traditional rivalries back, and return back to geographical conferences for the other sports.

It’s very get off my lawn but I hate that the pac 12 is essentially gone and usc is in the same conference as Ohio state. It’s dumb

xudash
05-10-2024, 03:54 PM
To answer your question, yes it should. It’s ruined a lot of what’s great about college sports. If they go on their own, maybe we can get the traditional rivalries back, and return back to geographical conferences for the other sports.

It’s very get off my lawn but I hate that the pac 12 is essentially gone and usc is in the same conference as Ohio state. It’s dumb

I don't believe it is "very get off my lawn" at all; it's just stupidity that was fueled by money at a level these institutions could not fathom pre-cable.

Woody Hayes and Ohio State against John McKay and USC in the Rose Bowl - that was normal. That's tradition. Move that forward to recent times - same thing.

Ohio State and USC in the Big Ten, sorry the B1G (since they can't use '10' anymore)? Nope. Sorry. That's insanity driven by money.

What will change bring next.