Des Leaving.

[Masterofreality]

Film at 11

[muskieindent]

Whatever he'll be replaced .This will happen every year.It'll be a sport of one and dones unless something is changed.These guys will play for 3 or 4 different schools in their careers.Sounds like they've signed a few guys who can do what he did. College sports is being ruined by money.

[GoMuskies]

Probably should have upped your donation to Final 2%.

[MHettel]

Pretty apparent that Miller has known about this and expected it. We really only lost Q from last years team and bringing in Foster AND "Toledo guy" would have been more than enough to replace him and add some depth at 2/3.

The fact that we were still aggressively pursuing "Indiana State guy" (and that he had interest in us) is evidence that Miller knew this would happen and that he could assure "indiana State guy" that there was a role with plenty of minutes available...

[Xville]

Probably should have upped your donation to Final 2%.

lol public and private reps.

[bjf123]

Pretty apparent that Miller has known about this and expected it. We really only lost Q from last years team and bringing in Foster AND "Toledo guy" would have been more than enough to replace him and add some depth at 2/3.

The fact that we were still aggressively pursuing "Indiana State guy" (and that he had interest in us) is evidence that Miller knew this would happen and that he could assure "indiana State guy" that there was a role with plenty of minutes available...

I heard that Des really wanted to stay, but his family was pressuring him to chase dollars elsewhere. If true, guess the family won.


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[noteggs]

Wish Des the best. Brought us (majority) fans some really good memories. Stayed with us during a coaching change. Time to move on but does sting a bit.

Bright side we have about 500k (there about I assume) to upgrade our frontcourt.

[MHettel]

I heard that Des really wanted to stay, but his family was pressuring him to chase dollars elsewhere. If true, guess the family won.


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wow. I dont know why I'm saying that cause this is not shocking in the least bit. But, if he wanted to stay and we have NIL dollars for him, then how big of a gap is there between our offer and the competing offers? He could have been where he wanted to be with a fair NIL.

[MHettel]

Wish Des the best. Brought us (majority) fans some really good memories. Stayed with us during a coaching change. Time to move on but does sting a bit.

Bright side we have about 500k (there about I assume) to upgrade our frontcourt.

To me, Milers pursuit of 2/3 type players in the portal tells me that he already knew that Dez was going and as a result I bet that 500K that is "freed up" has already been spent.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I heard that Des really wanted to stay, but his family was pressuring him to chase dollars elsewhere. If true, guess the family won.


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I think it was PG position not dollars. Des wants to play the 1, Miller likes McKnight at the 1.

[SM#24]

I think it was PG position not dollars. Des wants to play the 1, Miller likes McKnight at the 1.

Nobody is going to give him the $$ he wants to play PG.

[Xville]

Nobody is going to give him the $$ he wants to play PG.

I seriously don't mean this to sound like a dick, but how do you know that? Do you know Des or the teams that have contacted him and the plans for him?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Nobody is going to give him the $$ he wants to play PG.


I seriously don't mean this to sound like a dick, but how do you know that? Do you know Des or the teams that have contacted him and the plans for him?

I think the better question is how does anyone know the money Des wants? Has that been rumored somewhere? I think he was probably getting pretty decent NIL money here and what he really wants is a chance to be a starting PG. I think he can get that chance with probably sacrificing some money and likely not for an elite team. We will see tho.

[xuphan]

Wish Des the best. Brought us (majority) fans some really good memories. Stayed with us during a coaching change. Time to move on but does sting a bit.

Bright side we have about 500k (there about I assume) to upgrade our frontcourt.

I agree. Was a bright spot on a pretty abysmal team. I do like the transfers we have brought in and hopefully we can get a shot blocker to round off the class. Really getting excited about the pieces we have brought in.

[bjf123]

I think it was PG position not dollars. Des wants to play the 1, Miller likes McKnight at the 1.

If that was the case, I think Sean made the right call. Still, I hate to see Des leave.


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[xuphan]

If that was the case, I think Sean made the right call. Still, I hate to see Des leave.


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I agree. Dez is a great player but would command a lot of the ball next year if he were still here. Excited to see a more balanced offense with the transfers we have coming in.

[xu82]

I wish him all the best going forward.

[boozehound]

I’m really starting to lose interest in college sports with all this NIL crap.

[Caveat]

I’m really starting to lose interest in college sports with all this NIL crap.

I wish we could skip forward to the inevitable end-game of all this and have universities just sign players to 4 year contracts -- so at least you can avoid this yearly bullshit of players getting better and then immediately chasing more money or players not being good enough and immediately chasing more PT.

It's made the sport impossible to follow and every year feels like a fantasy re-draft.

[Masterofreality]

Probably should have upped your donation to Final 2%.

That wasn’t the issue. In fact Des’ family was insisting that he play PG, to better set him up for the pros. That wasn’t happening at X and Des will find out that it *probably* won’t happen at any other competitive high major school. If he insists on doing that, welcome to a level below.
Now X can take the $500k set aside for him and bring in multiple talents.
Sean knows exactly what he’s doing. The addition of Conwell, Foster and Maddox is no accident.

[Olsingledigit]

That wasn’t the issue. In fact Des’ family was insisting that he play PG, to better set him up for the pros. That wasn’t happening at X and Des will find out that it *probably* won’t happen at any other competitive high major school. If he insists on doing that, welcome to a level below.
Now X can take the $500k set aside for him and bring in multiple talents.
Sean knows exactly what he’s doing. The addition of Conwell, Foster and Maddox is no accident.

Yes SIR!

[Olsingledigit]

I am actually looking forward to next season. It will be exciting and i buy into Sean's firmness about pledging to never again have a lack of depth and talent as last year.

[IM4X]

I wish we could skip forward to the inevitable end-game of all this and have universities just sign players to 4 year contracts -- so at least you can avoid this yearly bullshit of players getting better and then immediately chasing more money or players not being good enough and immediately chasing more PT.

It's made the sport impossible to follow and every year feels like a fantasy re-draft.

I agree that more will have to be done soon to allow for some kind of greater stability. While it is impressive to see Sean quickly rebuild a team in this new crazy world of NIL, I think he would be the first to point how things got out of hand. Part of the problem (in addition to not know if your players will be around the following year) is that a really good coaching staff can help make a player better and their reward is for that player to take off for another school for their own benefit. While I am not crying coaches that make millions, it’s not fair to those coaches at mid major programs who might. It make a ton of money.

You hear it being said that this NIL situation is making college sports more like professional sports. Well, no, it’s creating much more chaos than we see in professional sports. In the NBA, you’re working with players who have contracts lasting 3+ years so you pretty much know they’ll be on the roster for a number of years. There is much less concern that the team’s best “core” players that the coaches are counting on and the fans are excited about watching most might not be there next year.

This NIL thing is more like parents deciding that maybe their grade school and high school kids deserve a some allowance for doing chores in addition to the free stuff their parents are already giving them and then somehow their kids are instantly given the power to dictate how much they get for their new allowance with the option of leaving home for another family who is willing to give them a bigger allowance because they washing dishes a little bit better.

[XUBison]

I agree that more will have to be done soon to allow for some kind of greater stability. While it is impressive to see Sean quickly rebuild a team in this new crazy world of NIL, I think he would be the first to point how things got out of hand. Part of the problem (in addition to not know if your players will be around the following year) is that a really good coaching staff can help make a player better and their reward is for that player to take off for another school for their own benefit. While I am not crying coaches that make millions, it’s not fair to those coaches at mid major programs who might. It make a ton of money.

You hear it being said that this NIL situation is making college sports more like professional sports. Well, no, it’s creating much more chaos than we see in professional sports. In the NBA, you’re working with players who have contracts lasting 3+ years so you pretty much know they’ll be on the roster for a number of years. There is much less concern that the team’s best “core” players that the coaches are counting on and the fans are excited about watching most might not be there next year.

This NIL thing is more like parents deciding that maybe their grade school and high school kids deserve a some allowance for doing chores in addition to the free stuff their parents are already giving them and then somehow their kids are instantly given the power to dictate how much they get for their new allowance with the option of leaving home for another family who is willing to give them a bigger allowance because they washing dishes a little bit better.

Yep, it’s bonkers. I don’t like it, but for now, Sean and X are showing that we can navigate this weird world. I’m not going to complain about that.

[IM4X]

I am actually looking forward to next season. It will be exciting and i buy into Sean's firmness about pledging to never again have a lack of depth and talent as last year.

I haven’t always bought into every coach’s way at X, but with Sean you have a very sincere, caring, transparent coach who has incredible talent and pride in living up to the reputation of being one of the best. When you have a coach who is is a good person and who gets the most out of his players and has high expectations that he feels he needs to meet- you know you are in good hands.

I love the way Mark Few, Jay Wright and Sean Miller coach. Class + Kick Ass.

[waggy]

Sorry to see des go. From the outside he seems likable, hard working and that he did everything right at X. He had very good production considering he was only a soph. I definitely think he has a chance to get to the next level.

[MHettel]

Sorry to see des go. From the outside he seems likable, hard working and that he did everything right at X. He had very good production considering he was only a soph. I definitely think he has a chance to get to the next level.

Will certainly be interesting to see where he lands and how he plays.

I personally think he’ll land at a top program and not play PG.

But if he did get a shot to play Point somewhere, I wonder how his game will be impacted. He will be expected to distribute and run the offense. That’s different than what he was doing at XU. Here he played a lot of 1 on 1 and was obviously great at getting to the rim. But as a PG he will probably be guarded by a smaller quicker guy. Will that matter? Maybe.

Similarly, on defense he will be the on ball defender and will need to keep opposing g PGs in front of him. Not sure if that’s his strength.

In the end, if he does get that PG chance and it means he needs to drop down to a lower level what would it prove if he can drive on and defend against a mid major level Point Guard?

I still think his key to the NBA is his deep shooting. If he figures it out and can hit 37% +, then he’s in the league. If he can’t hit that percentage then he’s likely a G League or overseas guy.

I don’t see how this fascination with playing PG will be the best path to the NBA. We shall see. I’ll be watching him next year