Rank the BE Coaches

[Xville]

With the news yesterday about DePaul, I thought this would be fun to revisit. As I type out this list, I realize that this conference imo now has the best stable of coaches top to bottom. To me, this is an extremely hard thing to rank. Outside of Neptune, they are all pretty awesome.

1. Hurley
2. Pitino
3. Miller
4. McDermott
5. Smart
6. English
7. Cooley
8. Holloway
9. Matta
10. Holtmann
11. Neptune

[D-West & PO-Z]

Off the top of my head I would go:

Hurley
Pitino
Miller
McDermott
Shaka
Cooley
English
Holloway
Holtmann
Matta
Neptune

Very deep stable of coaches as you said.

Obviously this list is not ranking most accomplished careers but kind of how I see it currently in this moment. English and Holloway are still pretty early and tough to judge completely.

I could be easily convinced to change up a lot of my order I am sure. I feel confident listing Hurley number 1 right now and Neptune last. The two I could most easily swap positions are Shaka and McDermott. I thujnk both are really good but decided to put McDermott slightly ahead.

[muskiefan82]

2 Ex-Providence coaches
2 Ex-Xavier coaches (1 that returned of course...)
2 Ex-Ohio State coaches
2 Ex-Butler coaches

1 of these is a coach that is an ex-Butler, Xavier, and Ohio State coach with a beaknose.

[MHettel]

Hard to put miller in front of McDermott and Smart.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Hard to put miller in front of McDermott and Smart.

Not really.

McDermott has been past the 1st weekend of the tournament twice in 24 years as a D1 head coach.

Shaka has 1 tourney win in the last 10 years.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Which obviously means Miller had more tourney wins last year than Shaka has had in the last decade, lol.

Shaka has been good at Marquette but they really need to show up in the tournament this year. Marquette has 1 tourney win since the formation of the new big east.

[Xavier]

Obviously this is current coaches and not historical. Pitino would be far and away the best. Still a great coach, just ranking these as if I could pick to coach X for the next 5 years
Hurley
2. Miller
3. McDermott
4. Smart
5. Pitino
6. Matta
7. Cooley
8. Holloway
9. English
10. Holtman
11. Neptune

I want to see what English can do after Carter leaves. Smart is tricky because he was awful at Texas. McDermott has had a few different teams/runs, and I always enjoy his teams style. But he has a ton of March meltdowns, last year was his first elite 8 which is rough. But can see them making a run this year, too.

[Xville]

Obviously this is current coaches and not historical. Pitino would be far and away the best. Still a great coach, just ranking these as if I could pick to coach X for the next 5 years
Hurley
2. Miller
3. McDermott
4. Smart
5. Pitino
6. Matta
7. Cooley
8. Holloway
9. English
10. Holtman
11. Neptune

I want to see what English can do after Carter leaves. Smart is tricky because he was awful at Texas. McDermott has had a few different teams/runs, and I always enjoy his teams style. But he has a ton of March meltdowns, last year was his first elite 8 which is rough. But can see them making a run this year, too.

Yeah good point about Present/Future vs historical.

With Mcdermott and Creighton this year, I see either a first round flame out or a final four, with zero in between. That first round matchup is going to be interesting...if its someone that will dirty it up and play tough d , I think its flame out city.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Pitino is obviously historically great. I wouldn’t want him over Miller but he can clearly still coach. Impressive getting St. John’s to the tourney this year.

[xuwillie]

I'd put Mcdermott and smart 2-3, miller 4 and pitino 5 or switch them but agree I wouldn't want pitino over Miller

[Xavier]

Man. Smart had a lucky run, but can’t do anything in March when he is supposed to. At least mack snuck in an elite 8 between choke jobs. I’d imagine some unhappy Marquette fans.

This isn’t losing to a 3 seed in the sweet 16. It’s an 11. Embarrassing

[MHettel]

Man. Smart had a lucky run, but can’t do anything in March when he is supposed to. At least mack snuck in an elite 8 between choke jobs. I’d imagine some unhappy Marquette fans.

This isn’t losing to a 3 seed in the sweet 16. It’s an 11. Embarrassing
Yes. But……

NCST seems to have the magic slipper this year. They won the ACC, so it’s not a fluke.

You could make the argument that they gelled at the right time. Just sayin…

[GoMuskies]

Marquette just sucked tonight. Had very little to do with NC St.

[Xavier]

I don’t throw away regular season success like a lot do. Winning the BE regular season and tournament has a lot of weight. Who knows, maybe they will reload. But just seems to be a theme with Shaka. Was hoping for 3 BE final four.

[Olsingledigit]

Marquette just sucked tonight. Had very little to do with NC St.

I agree. Their worst game of the year

[D-West & PO-Z]

Man. Smart had a lucky run, but can’t do anything in March when he is supposed to. At least mack snuck in an elite 8 between choke jobs. I’d imagine some unhappy Marquette fans.

This isn’t losing to a 3 seed in the sweet 16. It’s an 11. Embarrassing

Shaka is an absolute choke job in the tourney.

He has made the tourney all 3 years at Marquette but now has 3 combined wins as a 9 seed, 2 seed, and 2 seed. Those are Marquettes only wins in the new Big East btw. They have been awful in terms of tourney.

Shaka had ZERO tourney wins in 6 years at Texas. Texas has 5 tourney wins in the 3 seasons since Shaka has been gone.

Shaka now has 5 tourney wins in the 13 years since his miracle run to the Final 4 at VCU.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I don’t throw away regular season success like a lot do. Winning the BE regular season and tournament has a lot of weight. Who knows, maybe they will reload. But just seems to be a theme with Shaka. Was hoping for 3 BE final four.

Yeah, I generally agree but there has to be some deep tourney wins mixed in, maybe even an unexpected run as a lower seed like Mack did with 11 seed X in-between the 2 seed and 1 seed choke jobs.

Marquette fans have to be thrilled with the reg season success but equally as frustrated with the tourney choke jobs.

[Xavier]

McDermott getting ran right now, too. Certainly no stranger to early flame outs. But at least Tennessee is the higher seed, and he finally had a run last year.

[D-West & PO-Z]

McDermott getting ran right now, too. Certainly no stranger to early flame outs. But at least Tennessee is the higher seed, and he finally had a run last year.

Yeah McDermott finally broke through last year and if they lose this year they made it as far as their seed dictated. I thought and still do that he is better than Shaka.

Still disappointing to see Creighton not playing well and to see Creighton (likely) and Marquette fail to advance past Sweet 16.