College Basketball Transfer Portal 2024-2025

[MHettel]

With Free officially back, and McKnight having said so earlier, we really need Claude to show his commitment and do the same. Those 3, with presumably Swain, Green, Powell and Foster give us a base to recruit from. Maybe Hunter as well (even in a limited capacity).

This puts us 2 BIGS and a Shooting SG way from a decent roster. We need something to recruit into. Claude can go a long way towards that.

[JTG]

Not to get to political, but how many of you on here are thinking an NIL cap vs. free market approach. It is an interesting discussion and might need to be moved, but it's an emerging market where traditional free market thinkers are fans also that want stiff regulations applied to even out the playing field.

It's college sports. The NFL and NBA have salary caps to try and even out the playing field. Would you want to play poker where some people could get extra Aces, because Hey, it's free market. Golf with a flying ball for the rich guy. It's an apples and oranges argument. No one questions the NFL, the most successful sports league of all time.

[Xuperman]

Being a college basketball coach is obviously a lot more challenging . Recruiting and developing high school players so they can get experience and the enter the portal sucks. Re- recruiting those same players to stay when others offer more money sucks more. Being a fan of a sport once loved and seeing its evolution into a a mercenary business is disconcerting. Recognizing the players deserve compensation is some comfort. They work hard, entertain, and generate revenue. Yet it doesn’t bridge the gap . The emotional connection fades as the money becomes the a priori reason for playing. A philosopher would say we are mourning the loss of the perceived innocence of amateur sports.

This is a very well worded post, and nicely represents the many concerns that "NIL" is the beginning of the inevitable. Spades are now excavating the soil. I would only add that the $$$ will create an unavoidable corrosion of team chemistry and locker room friction. This will be a major issue going forward.

[D-West & PO-Z]

This is a very well worded post, and nicely represents the many concerns that "NIL" is the beginning of the inevitable. Spades are now excavating the soil. I would only add that the $$$ will create an unavoidable corrosion of team chemistry and locker room friction. This will be a major issue going forward.

All part of the grand plan to fundamentally change the landscape of college athletics. Thanks a lot O'Biden. Amirite?

[XU_Lou]

All part of the grand plan to fundamentally change the landscape of college athletics. Thanks a lot O'Biden. Amirite?

Dude - you angry at something?

[Xuperman]

All part of the grand plan to fundamentally change the landscape of college athletics. Thanks a lot O'Biden. Amirite?

You can thank O'Biden on another thread. However, no one.....EVER.....can post ANYTHING that does.

[Xville]

All part of the grand plan to fundamentally change the landscape of college athletics. Thanks a lot O'Biden. Amirite?

lol public reps. That’s amazing.

[XUGRAD80]

Money concerns have sometimes created huge riffs in locker rooms and affected team chemistry to a point where teams do not achieve the results that they are capable of. But only sometimes. It’s not an inevitable situation. Baseball players have been getting paid for 150 years now. Most of those years with no Union, no salary cap, and no revenue sharing. Football, Basketball, and Hockey for not as long, but the same way. Of course I’m talking about pro sports. But let’s get over the idea that pro always mean grownup or mature. They can be just as childish and selfish as any college player. Yet we hear about how good the locker room is on teams like the Bengals and how much the players love each other. We hear how the players understand the business side of the sport and also can leave that out of the locker room. Lack of team unity and friction between players, because of players getting paid, is not inevitable. IMHO it’s not even something that we should expect to happen everywhere. Will it happen on SOME teams? Sure. But I don’t expect it to be any more prevalent than it is on current professional teams. It is going to be the coaches job to make sure it doesn’t happen and good coaches will make sure it doesn’t. I don’t see much difference between money jealousy and playing time jealousy. Players are already getting upset about not getting playing time, and that leads to transfers sometimes. That’s happened for years. I don’t see the money part of it being any bigger of a deal. Just my opinion.

[Xavier]

With Free officially back, and McKnight having said so earlier, we really need Claude to show his commitment and do the same. Those 3, with presumably Swain, Green, Powell and Foster give us a base to recruit from. Maybe Hunter as well (even in a limited capacity).

This puts us 2 BIGS and a Shooting SG way from a decent roster. We need something to recruit into. Claude can go a long way towards that.

I feel pretty good and excited about Maddox. I think Center John Hugley will be a musketeer, too. I also think there’s another couple bigs X is looking at and in the mix for.

Still not sure about Claude

[xuphan]

I feel pretty good and excited about Maddox. I think Center John Hugley will be a musketeer, too. I also think there’s another couple bigs X is looking at and in the mix for.

Still not sure about Claude

I think Maddox would be a great fit but not sure if we are winning this recruiting battle. I think Hugley will hopefully provide much needed depth in the front court. Similar to Abou last season. Hopefully we are able to get a starting impact Big to go with Hugley.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Dude - you angry at something?

No

[Xville]

I feel pretty good and excited about Maddox. I think Center John Hugley will be a musketeer, too. I also think there’s another couple bigs X is looking at and in the mix for.

Still not sure about Claude

Yeah I think hugely is ours. He started following free yesterday.

I’ll be surprised if we beat out Louisville for Maddox but we will see. Plenty out there. I just hope we hold on to Claude for continuity purposes.

[xuphan]

Sam Alexis who had Xavier in his final 5 has committed to Florida.

[Xavier]

Yeah I think hugely is ours. He started following free yesterday.

I’ll be surprised if we beat out Louisville for Maddox but we will see. Plenty out there. I just hope we hold on to Claude for continuity purposes.

Well, the Illinois board thought it was between X/illinois. Louisville is going to give the most NIL though. His mom is looking for a smaller school. Think of the Quincy situation, they said he had higher NIL elsewhere but liked the smaller school. He seems to love the X staff. Trilly (there’s that name again) said he thinks X is still in the lead. It’s always changing though. I’ve seen Freemantle trying to get a couple guys, too. There’s a lot of moving pieces right now

[Xville]

Well, the Illinois board thought it was between X/illinois. Louisville is going to give the most NIL though. His mom is looking for a smaller school. Think of the Quincy situation, they said he had higher NIL elsewhere but liked the smaller school. He seems to love the X staff. Trilly (there’s that name again) said he thinks X is still in the lead. It’s always changing though. I’ve seen Freemantle trying to get a couple guys, too. There’s a lot of moving pieces right now

Glad to hear that, hope he picks x. Get him and hugely in the fold and get a legit big and we are in decent shape

[A Fan]

Not to get to political, but how many of you on here are thinking an NIL cap vs. free market approach. It is an interesting discussion and might need to be moved, but it's an emerging market where traditional free market thinkers are fans also that want stiff regulations applied to even out the playing field.



The NCAA lacks the jurisdiction ( and even if they had it) it would violate antitrust laws for them to try to cap what any student athlete could receive by way of compensation. In a belated attempt to stay relevant however they passed a regulation effective August 1 2024 that says athletes must disclose details of any NIL agreements to their schools within 30 days of signing. I imagine the NCAA has learned of situations where the athlete does a commercial deal with a booster outside an affiliated collective and the schools want to be informed. As additional window dressing they are preparing a template of a contract and offering educational materials to athletes on NIL . This of course is all the more humorous since they fought compensation and the supposed NIL’s are now a known euphemism for pay to play which they used to sanction schools for doing.

[A Fan]

With Free officially back, and McKnight having said so earlier, we really need Claude to show his commitment and do the same. Those 3, with presumably Swain, Green, Powell and Foster give us a base to recruit from. Maybe Hunter as well (even in a limited capacity).

This puts us 2 BIGS and a Shooting SG way from a decent roster. We need something to recruit into. Claude can go a long way towards that.


Dez Claude is intriguing. Most would agree he is Xavier’s best basketball player, He is highly athletic. He has NBA ambitions . But what is his NBA position? He is a poor shooting guard. And he lacks the leadership skills and temperament to be the floor leader. Because of his athleticism he can now create his own shots, But can he do that , or is that good enough for the NBA .
At this point in his career can he become a 40 per cent 3 point shooter? Can he be a floor leader?
Is Xavier the best place for him to be to become who he needs to be to have an NBA career.
Your opinion ?

[MHettel]

Dez Claude is intriguing. Most would agree he is Xavier’s best basketball player, He is highly athletic. He has NBA ambitions . But what is his NBA position? He is a poor shooting guard. And he lacks the leadership skills and temperament to be the floor leader. Because of his athleticism he can now create his own shots, But can he do that , or is that good enough for the NBA .
At this point in his career can he become a 40 per cent 3 point shooter? Can he be a floor leader?
Is Xavier the best place for him to be to become who he needs to be to have an NBA career.
Your opinion ?

2 opinions

1. You have to be able to make the 3 to stick in the NBA. He’s not shown that yet. I don’t see the point in trying to showcase his balllhandling skills as a PG if he’s still struggling from 3. Demonstrating excellent handles will not make up for that. The key for him should be working on his shot. He could be an NBA 2G if he adds that.

2. The NBA will find talent. They always do. There is no need to go elsewhere.

Part of me wonder if Dez is just looking for the biggest NIL, but wants to have a cover story on why he would leave. Looks a lot less selfish that way.

[A Fan]

2 opinions

1. You have to be able to make the 3 to stick in the NBA. He’s not shown that yet. I don’t see the point in trying to showcase his balllhandling skills as a PG if he’s still struggling from 3. Demonstrating excellent handles will not make up for that. The key for him should be working on his shot. He could be an NBA 2G if he adds that.

2. The NBA will find talent. They always do. There is no need to go elsewhere.

Part of me wonder if Dez is just looking for the biggest NIL, but wants to have a cover story on why he would leave. Looks a lot less selfish that way.

“Part of me wonder if Dez is just looking for the biggest NIL”.
Given who he is. Where he might fit. What would you estimate is his FMV?

[XUBison]

…Part of me wonder if Dez is just looking for the biggest NIL, but wants to have a cover story on why he would leave. Looks a lot less selfish that way.

or, this is just stuff imagined on a message board.

[MHettel]

or, this is just stuff imagined on a message board.

He needs to work on his shooting. He doesn’t need to transfer to accomplish that.

[Xville]

He needs to work on his shooting. He doesn’t need to transfer to accomplish that.

True, but he does if he wants to be a 1 which is his direct route and highest ceiling to the nba. If he can show he can shoot and play the 1, that’s first round pick with potential for lottery. NBA scouts are going to see him at the 3 and compare him to Colby.. 2nd round pick with upside. Which is fine if that’s the route he wants to go, but I don’t fault him if he wants to show what he can do at the 1 and get all the money he possibly can.

Deaaron fox didn’t show he could shoot in college at all, but he had point guard skills and got drafted fifth. He’s 3 inches shorter than des.

[D-West & PO-Z]

He needs to work on his shooting. He doesn’t need to transfer to accomplish that.

I think you missed his point. There’s no credible information out there Des is actually even considering transferring or entering the portal.

[xudash]

Money concerns have sometimes created huge riffs in locker rooms and affected team chemistry to a point where teams do not achieve the results that they are capable of. But only sometimes. It’s not an inevitable situation. Baseball players have been getting paid for 150 years now. Most of those years with no Union, no salary cap, and no revenue sharing. Football, Basketball, and Hockey for not as long, but the same way. Of course I’m talking about pro sports. But let’s get over the idea that pro always mean grownup or mature. They can be just as childish and selfish as any college player. Yet we hear about how good the locker room is on teams like the Bengals and how much the players love each other. We hear how the players understand the business side of the sport and also can leave that out of the locker room. Lack of team unity and friction between players, because of players getting paid, is not inevitable. IMHO it’s not even something that we should expect to happen everywhere. Will it happen on SOME teams? Sure. But I don’t expect it to be any more prevalent than it is on current professional teams. It is going to be the coaches job to make sure it doesn’t happen and good coaches will make sure it doesn’t. I don’t see much difference between money jealousy and playing time jealousy. Players are already getting upset about not getting playing time, and that leads to transfers sometimes. That’s happened for years. I don’t see the money part of it being any bigger of a deal. Just my opinion.

Perhaps we could amplify your point by looking at what might be kind of a flipside to all of this: existing players wanting talent to be infused in order to have a better shot at the F4 and a NC. So, we end up with a legitimate five who we are able to pay a sufficiently handsome number. Perhaps both Fremantle and HUNTER see that as a path beyond the S16.

[MHettel]

I think you missed his point. There’s no credible information out there Des is actually even considering transferring or entering the portal.

There is also no reason for Dez not to declare that he is returning. The absence of that declaration is enough for me to have doubts.

[Xavgrad08]

Goodman tweeted Lazar has committed to Charleston. Good chance for him to get PT. Solid get for Mack.

[xudash]

We are all entitled to our opinions, so here comes mine with respect to Dez: I will be gobsmacked if he leaves Xavier.

[xu82]

We are all entitled to our opinions, so here comes mine with respect to Dez: I will be gobsmacked if he leaves Xavier.


Well we certainly don’t want that to happen!!!

[bjf123]

We are all entitled to our opinions, so here comes mine with respect to Dez: I will be gobsmacked if he leaves Xavier.

Let’s hope you don’t have to smack your gob. I’ve heard that can be quite painful.


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[Xavier]

2 opinions

1. You have to be able to make the 3 to stick in the NBA. He’s not shown that yet. I don’t see the point in trying to showcase his balllhandling skills as a PG if he’s still struggling from 3. Demonstrating excellent handles will not make up for that. The key for him should be working on his shot. He could be an NBA 2G if he adds that.

2. The NBA will find talent. They always do. There is no need to go elsewhere.

Part of me wonder if Dez is just looking for the biggest NIL, but wants to have a cover story on why he would leave. Looks a lot less selfish that way.

I’m not totally sure I agree on the 2nd point, I think there’s loads of talent in Europe that, if placed on the right team, would be very good in the NBA too. If you don’t get drafted, it’s a hard road to get back to the NBA.

Still, we kinda agree on his path. I don’t see loads of athleticism from des (speed, spurtability) to be an NBA PG. I don’t see great ball handling skills, excellent vision, or passing ability that screams nba PG. And maybe he has it and wants to find somewhere to show it off. His size and strength would work if he became a great shooter, though.

And for the record, I want him back because it he does add the outside shot to go with his great mismatch his strength and size presents- he will be a great player. If his shot only got slightly better, he’s a talented player that we can replace in the portal just fine.

[MHettel]

Goodman tweeted Lazar has committed to Charleston. Good chance for him to get PT. Solid get for Mack.

Sounds about right. In spite of all the insistence that Lazar was loaded with talent, the reality was that he had possibly the lowest productivity of any rotational XU player in 40 years.

Wonder what the “lazar defenders” have to say?

[xudash]

Well we certainly don’t want that to happen!!!

At least I will come up from Florida to smack my gob at Dana‘s.

The whole thing will not be a total loss.

[Xville]

Sounds about right. In spite of all the insistence that Lazar was loaded with talent, the reality was that he had possibly the lowest productivity of any rotational XU player in 40 years.

Wonder what the “lazar defenders” have to say?

He has potential. We shall see what happens. He’s only going to be a sophomore and the last five games, when he really got time, he averaged what abou did (for the season as a senior) from a point/rebounding perspective.

[xukeith]

He has potential. We shall see what happens. He’s only going to be a sophomore and the last five games, when he really got time, he averaged what abou did (for the season as a senior) from a point/rebounding perspective.

We X fans put a lot of hope into Lazar. He didn't have the best frosh year but the last 4-5 games showed he does know basketball and he can play better than his prior chances.
I still hope Lazar dominates for Mack and he is draftable in NBA someday in his future.

[XUBison]

He needs to work on his shooting. He doesn’t need to transfer to accomplish that.

Correct.

[XUBison]

I think you missed his point. There’s no credible information out there Des is actually even considering transferring or entering the portal.

Also correct.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Money concerns have sometimes created huge riffs in locker rooms and affected team chemistry to a point where teams do not achieve the results that they are capable of. But only sometimes. It’s not an inevitable situation.

The rumor mill was that LSU women experienced this rift early in the season. I think it probably quietly affected their quality of play all year. Reese was suspended for 4 games starting at a halftime. The language she used in post game Q&As also gave it away. Whether true or not, she perceived herself in a higher class.

Not here, but among friend and co-workers I have discussed this the last couple of years. Teams can be negatively affected by this and it will largely depend on the players whether it affects the team.

[D-West & PO-Z]

The rumor mill was that LSU women experienced this rift early in the season. I think it probably quietly affected their quality of play all year. Reese was suspended for 4 games starting at a halftime. The language she used in post game Q&As also gave it away. Whether true or not, she perceived herself in a higher class.

Not here, but among friend and co-workers I have discussed this the last couple of years. Teams can be negatively affected by this and it will largely depend on the players whether it affects the team.

There is zero reason to believe Reese would not have behaved the same way causing the same friction before NIL. Great player, highly publicized, off a national championship.

What was her NIL income last season? What was it this season?

Players (definitely in the pros) want to see fellow players get as much as possible and don't like to talk about other players money.

I think you are stretching to assume LSU and Reese's situation had anything to do with NIL and that she would not have acted the same way coming off a championship and being highly covered, pre NIL.

[MHettel]

There is zero reason to believe Reese would not have behaved the same way causing the same friction before NIL. Great player, highly publicized, off a national championship.

What was her NIL income last season? What was it this season?

Players (definitely in the pros) want to see fellow players get as much as possible and don't like to talk about other players money.

I think you are stretching to assume LSU and Reese's situation had anything to do with NIL and that she would not have acted the same way coming off a championship and being highly covered, pre NIL.

Sometimes I get the feeling that you are a defense attorney, and your client is the NIL. You run to its defense under any and all circumstances.

It is entirely reasonable to assume that an ungoverned and unregulated system that results in the potential for “haves and have nots” would cause dissension in a locker room full of people 18-22 years old.

Money and jealousy have ruined many pro teams that ultimately performed well below expectations. To suggest that it’s not happening in the college ranks is just naive, or blindly defending it.

[Xville]

It is also entirely possible to believe that nil had zero to do with it. Reese plays the victim any chance she gets but dishes out bs, that would rub anyone the wrong way. That along with a despicable human being for a coach and you have a powder keg

[xudash]

It can be argued that NIL is an enabler to such behavior. NIL disparities in a given locker room can cause dissension, but do not automatically cause it.

Frankly, BREEDING is a key determinant of how relationships in a locker room work out. It is up to the coach to assemble the right mix of high-character players, set expectations properly, and then focus the team on becoming unified in order for them to achieve their goals.

Hurley seems to have figured this out.

[XUGRAD80]

The rumor mill was that LSU women experienced this rift early in the season. I think it probably quietly affected their quality of play all year. Reese was suspended for 4 games starting at a halftime. The language she used in post game Q&As also gave it away. Whether true or not, she perceived herself in a higher class.

Not here, but among friend and co-workers I have discussed this the last couple of years. Teams can be negatively affected by this and it will largely depend on the players whether it affects the team.

Saying that it CAN is not the same as saying that it WILL. I think that it is much more dependent upon the level of the maturity of the people involved, then it is about the level of the money involved.

[A Fan]

Independent of the question of any dissension in the men’s basketball locker room over differences in NIL compensation is the looming question of whether Title IX is going to be deemed to require some proportionality in NIL compensation among the men’s and women’s teams. Now that it is clear that the players are not being paid relative to their NIL value but relative to their playing skills the women’s teams will be arguing that compensation should be paid to them. Because the collective’s paying the money are now considered third party entities independent of the schools the argument is that the schools are not discriminating among men and women.Ultimately the answer will turn on the whether the collectives are “ institutionally facilitated “; that is the extent to which coaches, athletic directors , administrators and other university employees encourage or direct contributions to the collectives . Some have suggested that the schools have fought against collective transparency because it will be obvious that the men but not the women are the benficiaries.

[drudy23]

This is starting feel like last year. We don't seem to be getting our main targets.

[MHettel]

Saying that it CAN is not the same as saying that it WILL. I think that it is much more dependent upon the level of the maturity of the people involved, then it is about the level of the money involved.

These are college students. Some (many) of which have never lived a lifestyle where money was NOT an ongoing concern. And it’s also realistic to assume that these NIL payouts might be the most money some of these kids make in a year.

So yeah, I have low expectations about the maturity level. It only takes one or 2 guys to wreck a locker room

[D-West & PO-Z]

Sometimes I get the feeling that you are a defense attorney, and your client is the NIL. You run to its defense under any and all circumstances.

It is entirely reasonable to assume that an ungoverned and unregulated system that results in the potential for “haves and have nots” would cause dissension in a locker room full of people 18-22 years old.

Money and jealousy have ruined many pro teams that ultimately performed well below expectations. To suggest that it’s not happening in the college ranks is just naive, or blindly defending it.

Please provide 5 examples of the many pro teams ruined by jealousy over contracts.

I'll hang up and listen.....

[MHettel]

Please provide 5 examples of the many pro teams ruined by jealousy over contracts.

I'll hang up and listen.....

Yeah, I’m not doing any homework for you. How about the list of NFL wide receivers and Corners that blow up their locker rooms annually.

[xuphan]

This is starting feel like last year. We don't seem to be getting our main targets.

Did I miss some news today? Which main targets of ours did Miller not get?

[XUGRAD80]

This is starting feel like last year. We don't seem to be getting our main targets.

Relax…..you’ll see some additions in the next couple of days, and by the end of this week at the latest. X is in a very good place with at least 3 of their top targets and possibly as many as 5. Players are working their way through visits.

[xu82]

Relax…..you’ll see some additions in the next couple of days, and by the end of this week at the latest. X is in a very good place with at least 3 of their top targets and possibly as many as 5. Players are working their way through visits.

Thank you for being a calming influence.

[xudash]

Thank you for being a calming influence.

I’ll second that.

[xuphan]

This is starting feel like last year. We don't seem to be getting our main targets.

I do get your concerns based on last year. Miller not bringing in a starting 5 from the ports last year was not smart and we paid for it. We should know as others have said about our targets in the next couple of weeks. We should get Hughley from Oklahoma which will be a Abou replacement. He is a good backup big but is not the starting 5 we also need. We are in for a few of them but so are a lot of Big time programs as well. Maddox would be a perfect replacement for Q but I wouldn’t be confident he comes here. We are also still reaching out to other transfers. Hopefully we will have a starting Big, Hughley, and a 3 point ace guard in the next couple of weeks. Hopefully the end of April is Miller Time in the portal.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah, I’m not doing any homework for you.

Classic. Can't even name one example off the top of your head.

The WR's who complain about their catches? Not what we were discussing.

Never heard of one where the guys on the team blow up the season bc they thought the WR was paid too much.

[IM4X]

RelaxÂ…..youÂ’ll see some additions in the next couple of days, and by the end of this week at the latest. X is in a very good place with at least 3 of their top targets and possibly as many as 5. Players are working their way through visits.

Good to know we still have a good chance with 5 of our biggest targets. I saw we missed out on a few supposed targets. Can you please let us know if there is at least one 5 we are likely to get who is 6’ 10” or bigger who is a solid scorer and rebounder. That might really calm some nerves.

[XUGRAD80]

Good to know we still have a good chance with 5 of our biggest targets. I saw we missed out on a few supposed targets. Can you please let us know if there is at least one 5 we are likely to get who is 6’ 10” or bigger who is a solid scorer and rebounder. That might really calm some nerves.

No guarantees but Hugley will surprise me if he ends up anywhere else. I believe he is visiting tomorrow or Tuesday and I hope we have a commitment before he leaves. Unlike some others here, I am high on him. I really wish we could have snagged him last off-season, when he left Pitt. I firmly believe that if X had gotten him that they would have dancing last season. I think he will see the light this time around.

[IM4X]

I do get your concerns based on last year. Miller not bringing in a starting 5 from the ports last year was not smart and we paid for it. We should know as others have said about our targets in the next couple of weeks. We should get Hughley from Oklahoma which will be a Abou replacement. He is a good backup big but is not the starting 5 we also need. We are in for a few of them but so are a lot of Big time programs as well. Maddox would be a perfect replacement for Q but I wouldn’t be confident he comes here. We are also still reaching out to other transfers. Hopefully we will have a starting Big, Hughley, and a 3 point ace guard in the next couple of weeks. Hopefully the end of April is Miller Time in the portal.

Didn’t see this until after I posted my last response.

Agree that Hugley would be a nice pick up and that regardless of whether X gets him or not, there is an absolute need for a legit 6’11+” center who can be counted on to score, defend and rebounder significantly better than what was available to the team last season.

[IM4X]

No guarantees but Hugley will surprise me if he ends up anywhere else. I believe he is visiting tomorrow or Tuesday and I hope we have a commitment before he leaves. Unlike some others here, I am high on him. I really wish we could have snagged him last off-season, when he left Pitt. I firmly believe that if X had gotten him that they would have dancing last season. I think he will see the light this time around.

I’ve posted some of my concerns about Hugley being the only big X lands.

He has had a few injuries in his college career. Most recently, I believe he had surgery towards the end of last season. Also, he was involved in an incident that resulted in being removed from the Pitt roster for a bit. Is he going to be ready to play for the entire season and is he big enough to fulfill our center needs?

On the flip side, I have seen him play well in games while at Pitt. Again, I think he would be a great pick up- just can’t imagine Sean is not going to insist on having another bigger center type on the roster, after what he (and all of us) experienced last season.

[drudy23]

Biggest question mark is still multiple Big East bigs. We whiffed on bigs in the portal (mostly a victim of circumstance, but still a true statement) - we need a Tyrique type of guy in the paint. There's not alot out there, and the best ones seem to be too expensive for us. So not sure I'm too optimistic about it.

Need beef in the paint. Priority 1 and 2. Guards are a dime a dozen.

[drudy23]

Thank you for being a calming influence.

I'm not not calm.

But it's an arms race for quality big guys. We're in for a battle for anyone of these guys that have high level interest from power conference schools. None of this is guaranteed. It's a complete rat race.

[XUGRAD80]

Biggest question mark is still multiple Big East bigs. We whiffed on bigs in the portal (mostly a victim of circumstance, but still a true statement) - we need a Tyrique type of guy in the paint. There's not alot out there, and the best ones seem to be too expensive for us. So not sure I'm too optimistic about it.

Need beef in the paint. Priority 1 and 2. Guards are a dime a dozen.

There are a couple of others that X is highly involved with too.

[webxu]

Anyone else have the thought since Lazar couldn't be found in the portal listing that this was an arranged transfer between Miller and Mack. Miller was really high on Lazar, so go develop under Mack for a year or two then come back to X. (honestly i am not sure if you can even leave and come back but the thought came to me on this one).

[Xville]

Anyone else have the thought since Lazar couldn't be found in the portal listing that this was an arranged transfer between Miller and Mack. Miller was really high on Lazar, so go develop under Mack for a year or two then come back to X. (honestly i am not sure if you can even leave and come back but the thought came to me on this one).

Not sure about the coming back to X part, but I do think it's possible Mack and Miller discussed Lazar and worked out an arrangement to get him to Charleston. I'm sure they both see he is oozing potential. A guy that averages 19 a game at the FIBA World Cup obviously has a lot of game, he just needs some confidence and development.

BTW he has been pretty active on twitter making shout outs to Xavier, staff and admin about how much he appreciated the opportunity and loved his time here. Haven't seen that from anyone else that has left. Just something i noticed.

[XUMIOH12]

this is starting feel like last year. We don't seem to be getting our main targets.

false!

[XUMIOH12]

Should be a busy week coming up

[Xville]

A very big week with so many visits scheduled and top targets lined up. I have a feeling we get 1 if not 2 secured either this week or next. Exciting week!

[XUGRAD80]

A very big week with so many visits scheduled and top targets lined up. I have a feeling we get 1 if not 2 secured either this week or next. Exciting week!

My only concern/question……is it better to be the 1st stop or the last on a recruits inspection tour? Or does it even matter? Aggggh! Relax I say….easy to say, hard to do. LOL ��

[MHettel]

Not sure about the coming back to X part, but I do think it's possible Mack and Miller discussed Lazar and worked out an arrangement to get him to Charleston. I'm sure they both see he is oozing potential. A guy that averages 19 a game at the FIBA World Cup obviously has a lot of game, he just needs some confidence and development.

BTW he has been pretty active on twitter making shout outs to Xavier, staff and admin about how much he appreciated the opportunity and loved his time here. Haven't seen that from anyone else that has left. Just something i noticed.

Still pimping Lazar? He, and his immense talent have moved on. he couldnt even be FOUND in the portal. They have about 250 kids listed. Many more are in there, but arent ranked for some reason. Maybe its because they arent among the top 250 transfers available.

I'm not surprised at ALL that he ended up at Charleston. Thats his level. And I would guess that Mack absolutely talked to Miller.

But this continued fawning over Lazar is nauseating. He was absolutely horrible.

[Xville]

Still pimping Lazar? He, and his immense talent have moved on. he couldnt even be FOUND in the portal. They have about 250 kids listed. Many more are in there, but arent ranked for some reason. Maybe its because they arent among the top 250 transfers available.

I'm not surprised at ALL that he ended up at Charleston. Thats his level. And I would guess that Mack absolutely talked to Miller.

But this continued fawning over Lazar is nauseating. He was absolutely horrible.

You seem more concerned with tearing Lazar down, who has potential, than I do of "pimping" or "fawning" over him. He's had one year of college in a new country.

[flatspat]

FWIW Zed Key transferred from Ohio state to Dayton

[MHettel]

You seem more concerned with tearing Lazar down, who has potential, than I do of "pimping" or "fawning" over him. He's had one year of college in a new country.

Im not concerned with tearing Lazar down. But I am fascinated about how some people just refuse to see what is in plain sight. Again, i will liken it to parents and their blindness when it comes to their own children. Their kid is the "cutest" or the "best" on the team, or the "smartest." And they HONESTLY believe it. But nobody agrees with them, but then again nobody calls them out either. So this isnt about Lazar at all....it's me calling you out.

lazar was not good at college basketball this year. And his potential landed him at College of Charleston.

[Xville]

Im not concerned with tearing Lazar down. But I am fascinated about how some people just refuse to see what is in plain sight. Again, i will liken it to parents and their blindness when it comes to their own children. Their kid is the "cutest" or the "best" on the team, or the "smartest." And they HONESTLY believe it. But nobody agrees with them, but then again nobody calls them out either. So this isnt about Lazar at all....it's me calling you out.

lazar was not good at college basketball this year. And his potential landed him at College of Charleston.

Never once did I have blindness when it came to Lazar. So, your analogy falls pretty flat. I simply said he had potential, averaged the same as Abou (freshman) when he got real playing time at the end of the season, and could develop.

You turned that into something more, kind of an obsession really.

Lazar could develop at Charleston over the next year or two and then be back at this level or hey may not, we shall see. I wish him well and am rooting for him, just like all former and current X players. I also pointed out he has been very active on twitter thanking everyone at X...gawd forbid.

[Xville]

Dunno if anyone here has noticed, but Kim English and Providence are absolutely killing it in the portal.

[UCGRAD4X]

Biggest question mark is still multiple Big East bigs. We whiffed on bigs in the portal (mostly a victim of circumstance, but still a true statement) - we need a Tyrique type of guy in the paint. There's not alot out there, and the best ones seem to be too expensive for us. So not sure I'm too optimistic about it.

Need beef in the paint. Priority 1 and 2. Guards are a dime a dozen.

I might be able to pony up NIL for that.

[xu82]

I might be able to pony up NIL for that.

You’re right. Sign me up for TWO!

[webxu]

Im not concerned with tearing Lazar down. But I am fascinated about how some people just refuse to see what is in plain sight. Again, i will liken it to parents and their blindness when it comes to their own children. Their kid is the "cutest" or the "best" on the team, or the "smartest." And they HONESTLY believe it. But nobody agrees with them, but then again nobody calls them out either. So this isnt about Lazar at all....it's me calling you out.

lazar was not good at college basketball this year. And his potential landed him at College of Charleston.

To be fair, if we based everything off of their freshmen years, Jason Love, Jimmy Farr and BJ Raymond should have been long gone. Sometimes it takes time to reach potential.

[bjf123]

To be fair, if we based everything off of their freshmen years, Jason Love, Jimmy Farr and BJ Raymond should have been long gone. Sometimes it takes time to reach potential.

What he said.


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[Xville]

To be fair, if we based everything off of their freshmen years, Jason Love, Jimmy Farr and BJ Raymond should have been long gone. Sometimes it takes time to reach potential.

Yep...there is a very long list of Xavier Freshmen big men that showed little to nothing, but then reached their potential in later years. That list is much longer than the ones who hit the ground running right out of the gate.

That's the one thing that disappoints me about this new era...we aren't going to see a lot of guys developing over the years anymore. The Farrs and Loves of the world would probably be in the transfer portal right now as well.

[GoMuskies]

I wish we'd have gotten a longer look at Craft (who seemed to be getting comfortable before he got hurt last year) and had a chance to get a look at Ducharme at all (9 total minutes as a Musketeer).

[Xville]

Koby Brea is in the portal. One of the best 3p shooters in all of basketball last year. If X can wash the Dayton stink off him, would love to have him...assuming he will be highly sought after by the big dogs.

[GoMuskies]

Sorry if it's already in here somewhere, but I see that Trey Townsend is visiting Louisville, Ohio State and Arizona. Would have liked to have seen him here, of course.

[Xville]

Did I dream that AJ Storr had committed to Illini? Thought that was done...but it looks like he is still open? Anyone know whats going on there?

[XUMIOH12]

Koby Brea is in the portal. One of the best 3p shooters in all of basketball last year. If X can wash the Dayton stink off him, would love to have him...assuming he will be highly sought after by the big dogs.

Would be awesome but not going to be in the mix for him. Will be going to one of the big boys

[XUMIOH12]

Did I dream that AJ Storr had committed to Illini? Thought that was done...but it looks like he is still open? Anyone know whats going on there?

He's been asking for crazy money and other requests. Going to whoever will give him the most. Think illinois and kansas are the leaders, probably a couple others involved still too.

[Xville]

About two weeks until the portal closes. Any chance we hang on to everyone else?

[profson]

To be fair, if we based everything off of their freshmen years, Jason Love, Jimmy Farr and BJ Raymond should have been long gone. Sometimes it takes time to reach potential.

In today’s free agency, Farr and O’Mara would not have stayed to develop at X.

[bjf123]

About two weeks until the portal closes. Any chance we hang on to everyone else?

Heard somewhere that a lot of current NIL money is due to be paid later this month, but that if the player entered the portal, that payment goes away. No clue if that’s true. If it is, there will be a lot of new people jumping into the portal at the last minute.


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[D-West & PO-Z]

In today’s free agency, Farr and O’Mara would not have stayed to develop at X.

And/or the coaches would not have allowed them to stay.

It's a two way street that I think much of the blame gets placed on the players.

Coaches are responsible as well for pushing players to the portal in order to open roster spots for other players in the portal who can contribute more quickly.

[Final4]

About two weeks until the portal closes. Any chance we hang on to everyone else?

What does that mean, exactly? The portal closes and I have not submitted my name........can I no longer transfer or does it simply mean that I don't have the benefit of this "clearinghouse" to assist in marketing my name/availability?

[Xville]

What does that mean, exactly? The portal closes and I have not submitted my name........can I no longer transfer or does it simply mean that I don't have the benefit of this "clearinghouse" to assist in marketing my name/availability?

My understanding is that if you don’t submit paperwork before and you’re not a graduate transfer, you can’t transfer. Can someone confirm that?

[Xville]

Just to reset a bit here. Here is who we could be seeing a commitment from over the next week or so..either to X or competition, but high priority guys:

Guards:

Ryan Conwell (ISU)---would be an outstanding get. Basically Olivari. 40% 3pt shooter, 6'4 etc. Supposedly Ohio State though is competition.

Dante Maddox (Toledo)---6'2 can shoot but also a slasher. Lots of comp for him. Illini, Louisville etc

Forwards:

Michael Nwoko---meh. could develop for sure but freshman year looks like a lot of our guys this past year: 6'10 245 out of Miami.

John Hugley--Oklahoma...Big boy...some questions from a mental and physical standpoint. Big boy...great sophomore year out of Pitt, pretty disappointing year last year.

Garrison---would be a huge get...out of Oklahoma State. Good Freshman year in a big boy conference. Visited Oklahoma, but didn't commit and has now gone quiet. Maybe a return to Ok St?

Anwyays, that's who is really on the radar for now....as the world turns.

[GoMuskies]

You guys religiously following this portal stuff is impressive. I used to half-heartedly kind of follow high school recruiting, and I found that mostly annoying. This portal stuff is just obnoxious.

Wake me up on November 1 and tell me who's on the roster, I guess.

[XUGRAD80]

My understanding is that if you don’t submit paperwork before and you’re not a graduate transfer, you can’t transfer. Can someone confirm that?

I think you can still transfer, but you’ll have to sit out a year before you’re eligible to play.

[D-West & PO-Z]

You guys religiously following this portal stuff is impressive. I used to half-heartedly kind of follow high school recruiting, and I found that mostly annoying. This portal stuff is just obnoxious.

Wake me up on November 1 and tell me who's on the roster, I guess.

Yeah, I am in this camp.

I have never been all that interested in recruiting (probably why I have never joined the 247 board). I mean I like to see the announcements when we get a recruit or a transfer but following who those targets are and where else they are going and who is offering is a lot.

Wish we could fast forward a month or so and go from there.

[XUBison]

You guys religiously following this portal stuff is impressive. I used to half-heartedly kind of follow high school recruiting, and I found that mostly annoying. This portal stuff is just obnoxious.

Wake me up on November 1 and tell me who's on the roster, I guess.

100% this ^^^ — I got into recruiting for a while, until Churchhill Odia crushed my enthusiasm for it.

Xville, thanks for the earlier recap. That’s about all my attention span can handle.

[MHettel]

100% this ^^^ — I got into recruiting for a while, until Churchhill Odia crushed my enthusiasm for it.

Xville, thanks for the earlier recap. That’s about all my attention span can handle.

I followed recruiting VERY closely in the mid to late 90s (Eugene Land, anyone?)

I really wanted us to land a stud PF from Chicago named Ricky Wright. We went after him HARD, but he decided on Villanova. Couple days later we landed a guy I had never heard of and had almost zero recruiting interest. I think his name was David West. Who knew?

[xuphan]

Just to reset a bit here. Here is who we could be seeing a commitment from over the next week or so..either to X or competition, but high priority guys:

Guards:

Ryan Conwell (ISU)---would be an outstanding get. Basically Olivari. 40% 3pt shooter, 6'4 etc. Supposedly Ohio State though is competition.

Dante Maddox (Toledo)---6'2 can shoot but also a slasher. Lots of comp for him. Illini, Louisville etc

Forwards:

Michael Nwoko---meh. could develop for sure but freshman year looks like a lot of our guys this past year: 6'10 245 out of Miami.

John Hugley--Oklahoma...Big boy...some questions from a mental and physical standpoint. Big boy...great sophomore year out of Pitt, pretty disappointing year last year.

Garrison---would be a huge get...out of Oklahoma State. Good Freshman year in a big boy conference. Visited Oklahoma, but didn't commit and has now gone quiet. Maybe a return to Ok St?

Anwyays, that's who is really on the radar for now....as the world turns.

Thanks for the list. You can also add Dakota Leffew who has put X in his top 6. The coaching staff continues to reach out to other guards in the portal so hopefully it is more due diligence and not that we are missing on our targets. I am still amazed we haven’t been able to land an impact 5 yet given that they would walk in and start at the 5. Maybe Miller is too guard oriented and it puts off impact Bigs but I just don’t get it. Hugley is ok but we need that impact Big. Hopefully the coaching staff can figure it out.

[Xavier]

Personally think impact guards are more important. Obviously you can’t neglect the bigs (we saw what happens when you have none last year). With Freemantle in place, grabbing a serviceable center is more than fine. Just either someone that can stretch the floor or a big that can be a presence on defense and grab boards. I don’t think we need a big that’s a stud on offense.

Each year is different on the need but guards/wings win in March. Just my preference.

[Xavier]

Just to reset a bit here. Here is who we could be seeing a commitment from over the next week or so..either to X or competition, but high priority guys:

Guards:

Ryan Conwell (ISU)---would be an outstanding get. Basically Olivari. 40% 3pt shooter, 6'4 etc. Supposedly Ohio State though is competition.

.

Would be my number one guy. Hope we can land him.

[Xville]

another dude to add at the 2/3 position i just saw that is setting up a visit:

BJ Freeman 6'6 from Milwaukee...21ppg 35% from 3. Stud

Visiting:

X
Providence
Oregon
Florida State

Would be a good replacement for Des if he does leave.


BTW Ballo committed to IU. Don't understand why guys keep going there. Woodson can't coach but whatever.

[XU_Lou]

Thanks for the list. You can also add Dakota Leffew who has put X in his top 6. The coaching staff continues to reach out to other guards in the portal so hopefully it is more due diligence and not that we are missing on our targets. I am still amazed we haven’t been able to land an impact 5 yet given that they would walk in and start at the 5. Maybe Miller is too guard oriented and it puts off impact Bigs but I just don’t get it. Hugley is ok but we need that impact Big. Hopefully the coaching staff can figure it out.

Dude - why is it that 95% of your posts involve throwing subtle shade on XU and/or Miller?

[MHettel]

Personally think impact guards are more important. Obviously you can’t neglect the bigs (we saw what happens when you have none last year). With Freemantle in place, grabbing a serviceable center is more than fine. Just either someone that can stretch the floor or a big that can be a presence on defense and grab boards. I don’t think we need a big that’s a stud on offense.

Each year is different on the need but guards/wings win in March. Just my preference.

You did watch the finals bewteen 7'4" Edey and 7'2" Clingan, right?

[GoMuskies]

You did watch the finals bewteen 7'4" Edey and 7'2" Clingan, right?

That's a good point. Counterpoint: Edey scored 37 and significantly outplayed Clingan, but his team got blown out because UConn's guards were in a different stratosphere from Purdue's guards.

[MHettel]

That's a good point. Counterpoint: Edey scored 37 and significantly outplayed Clingan, but his team got blown out because UConn's guards were in a different stratosphere from Purdue's guards.

Fair enough. We also lost to those teams 4 times this year with that awful frontcourt we ran out there.

[Xavgrad08]

another dude to add at the 2/3 position i just saw that is setting up a visit:

BJ Freeman 6'6 from Milwaukee...21ppg 35% from 3. Stud

Visiting:

X
Providence
Oregon
Florida State

Would be a good replacement for Des if he does leave.


BTW Ballo committed to IU. Don't understand why guys keep going there. Woodson can't coach but whatever.

Goodman tweeted out that the asking price for Ballo was 1.2 million. Supposedly that is what IU paid. If true then that explains it.

[Xville]

Speaking of big men… seeing hugely has committed. If he can be that guy from Pitt, he’s a steal! At worst, a good rotational 5.

Waiting on a more reliable source though for it to be official!

[Xville]

Ok miller sent out the bat signal so it’s confirmed. Welcome to X big man!!

[XUGRAD80]

Speaking of big men… seeing hugely has committed. If he can be that guy from Pitt, he’s a steal! At worst, a good rotational 5.

Waiting on a more reliable source though for it to be official!

Just saw it from RB. Said he had canceled his visit to Nebraska after the X visit. I’m hoping that he is physically fit and ready to go. I think he will be a really good addition to the roster. YAY!

[Xville]

Just saw it from RB. Said he had canceled his visit to Nebraska after the X visit. I’m hoping that he is physically fit and ready to go. I think he will be a really good addition to the roster. YAY!

Excited to have some beef. Guessing miller liked what he heard and saw.

Heard that he may have two years left due to injury year where he only played 8 games? Wonder if that’s true

[XUGRAD80]

Excited to have some beef. Guessing miller liked what he heard and saw.

Heard that he may have two years left due to injury year where he only played 8 games? Wonder if that’s true

Yes, he does have 2 years left. Medical redshirt year and Covid year.

[XUGRAD80]

Goodman tweeted out that the asking price for Ballo was 1.2 million. Supposedly that is what IU paid. If true then that explains it.

I’ve seen that elsewhere too. But what was actually said was that OTHER coaches said that was his asking price. No one knows if Indiana got him for that or for less. I read where X has around 3M in its total war chest, but about 1/2 of that is already spoken for. That still leaves a pretty good chunk of change for the 3-4 additional players expected to be added to the roster, but X can’t afford to spend it all in one place.

[XUBison]

Just saw it from RB. Said he had canceled his visit to Nebraska after the X visit. I’m hoping that he is physically fit and ready to go. I think he will be a really good addition to the roster. YAY!

He’s listed at 6’10”, 275. Interesting stat— I read on Pitt’s site that he had the most free throws made and attempted in the ACC a couple years ago. Hope we get something close to that version.

[xukeith]

He’s listed at 6’10”, 275. Interesting stat— I read on Pitt’s site that he had the most free throws made and attempted in the ACC a couple years ago. Hope we get something close to that version.

Hope his knee and mental health are both solid. We need his best.

This is not the center who starts right?

[Xavier]

You did watch the finals bewteen 7'4" Edey and 7'2" Clingan, right?

Curious as to what you thought the difference was watching that game? Edey or UConn guards/wing play.

Edey put up 37 while getting blown out. Purdue starting guards/wings were 6/20 with 17 points.
Clingan had 11 while UConn starting guards/wings had 46 points

Just saying, mostly good guard play can carry you in March a lot easier than a strong big can.

[Xville]

Hope his knee and mental health are both solid. We need his best.

This is not the center who starts right?

Lots of variables to that question. If he’s the sophomore Pitt Hugley then he absolutely starts. If x doesn’t get anyone else at the 5, then he starts. If either of those are not true, then he will be a rotational guy getting anywhere from 10-20.

[profson]

Curious as to what you thought the difference was watching that game? Edey or UConn guards/wing play.

Edey put up 37 while getting blown out. Purdue starting guards/wings were 6/20 with 17 points.
Clingan had 11 while UConn starting guards/wings had 46 points

Just saying, mostly good guard play can carry you in March a lot easier than a strong big can.

Nonsequitur. Edey got them there, period. Better guards and no Edey, back in the pack. UConn had an elite C and elite others

[Xavier]

Nonsequitur. Edey got them there, period. Better guards and no Edey, back in the pack. UConn had an elite C and elite others

What about St Perers?

[XUGRAD80]

Hope his knee and mental health are both solid. We need his best.

This is not the center who starts right?

Right now he’d have to be penciled in as the starter. But that is a fluid situation based on who else X might pick up and how well he plays. If he can give X 14/7 on a regular basis I think that he will be all they need there.

[XUBison]

Right now he’d have to be penciled in as the starter. But that is a fluid situation based on who else X might pick up and how well he plays. If he can give X 14/7 on a regular basis I think that he will be all they need there.

My vote would be that we not plan on him starting every game, while averaging 40 MPG. We need more front court help, end of story.

[MHettel]

Curious as to what you thought the difference was watching that game? Edey or UConn guards/wing play.

Edey put up 37 while getting blown out. Purdue starting guards/wings were 6/20 with 17 points.
Clingan had 11 while UConn starting guards/wings had 46 points

Just saying, mostly good guard play can carry you in March a lot easier than a strong big can.

Well, 2 things. This was the pre-season matchup. the finals turned out pretty much as people expected.

if I recall it was a tight game in teh first half and Purdue wasnt hitting 3s. maybe not even taking them. 2nd half was ugly.

But what I do recall is that our guys were timid vs Edey and we got waxed by UCOnn 2x with Clingan. i'd like to have a least a serviceable big. I realize guards are necessary, but we never had a shot this year

[MHettel]

Lots of variables to that question. If he’s the sophomore Pitt Hugley then he absolutely starts. If x doesn’t get anyone else at the 5, then he starts. If either of those are not true, then he will be a rotational guy getting anywhere from 10-20.

he looks good to me. No center can play 40 minutes, so we need another guys similar to hugley to split time. Gotta add one more BIG big. Maybe one that can shoot from 3.

edit: actually maybe add one more that is more of a rim protector. Still need that.

[xuphan]

Dude - why is it that 95% of your posts involve throwing subtle shade on XU and/or Miller?

He hasn’t brought in a starting center and hasn’t been able to attract an impact center both last year and this year so far. We paid for it last season as a result. I’d rather not have history repeat itself. Am I suppose to applaud Miller for our front court recruiting? I praised him for our back court recruiting from Boum to Q. Sounds like Miller has brought in a rotational Big so congratulations to Miller and Co for bring in Hugley. I applaud Miller when he does well and criticize him when he makes mistakes. Just like our politicians like you should know.

[Xavier]

.

But what I do recall is that our guys were timid vs Edey and we got waxed by UCOnn 2x with Clingan. i'd like to have a least a serviceable big. I realize guards are necessary, but we never had a shot this year

That’s what I said. It’s hard to look at UConn as the norm, they had a strength at every position. Both sides of the ball. It was arguably one of the top college teams of all time.

Regardless, I’ll drop the guard vs center argument. Looking forward to adding a few more pieces. I expect a solid guard/wing added. Would like a strong defender/rebounder in the front court to go with the Oklahoma big if we don’t find a better Center

[Xville]

Hugley’s first Twitter post about today:

Best frontcourt trio in the country. Mark my words!


Hell yeah. Love this guys attitude already!

[XUGRAD80]

My vote would be that we not plan on him starting every game, while averaging 40 MPG. We need more front court help, end of story.

IF he earns the starting position, he will be the starter, end of story. But even then, he wouldn’t be expected to play 40 mins. a game. There are times when X will have a lime up of Free, Hunter, and 3 guards. They did that even when Nunge was here. Hopefully (and I fully expect it will happen) X does land ANOTHER front line player. But until that happens, and we see who it is, I think you pencil Hugley into the starting lineup for 30 mins. a game. Get another big and I think they split the time. How they split it will depend on how they each play.

[xuphan]

Hugley’s first Twitter post about today:

Best frontcourt trio in the country. Mark my words!


Hell yeah. Love this guys attitude already!

Nice! Maybe he has some insider information on an impact 5 committing to us soon.

[xukeith]

IF he earns the starting position, he will be the starter, end of story. But even then, he wouldn’t be expected to play 40 mins. a game. There are times when X will have a lime up of Free, Hunter, and 3 guards. They did that even when Nunge was here. Hopefully (and I fully expect it will happen) X does land ANOTHER front line player. But until that happens, and we see who it is, I think you pencil Hugley into the starting lineup for 30 mins. a game. Get another big and I think they split the time. How they split it will depend on how they each play.

True. Can you imagine Hugley not dropping weight below 275, and also having nagging knee injuries? X needs the post player frosh from Miami(FL)*Garrison?) to block shots and be an athletic freak 10 -20 minutes a game.

[xuphan]

IF he earns the starting position, he will be the starter, end of story. But even then, he wouldn’t be expected to play 40 mins. a game. There are times when X will have a lime up of Free, Hunter, and 3 guards. They did that even when Nunge was here. Hopefully (and I fully expect it will happen) X does land ANOTHER front line player. But until that happens, and we see who it is, I think you pencil Hugley into the starting lineup for 30 mins. a game. Get another big and I think they split the time. How they split it will depend on how they each play.

30 minutes a game? He averaged just under 18 minutes a game at Oklahoma. I would say 15-20 minutes a game is more of a realistic number. Still need an impact starting center to complete the front court.

[XUBison]

IF he earns the starting position, he will be the starter, end of story. But even then, he wouldn’t be expected to play 40 mins. a game. There are times when X will have a lime up of Free, Hunter, and 3 guards. They did that even when Nunge was here. Hopefully (and I fully expect it will happen) X does land ANOTHER front line player. But until that happens, and we see who it is, I think you pencil Hugley into the starting lineup for 30 mins. a game. Get another big and I think they split the time. How they split it will depend on how they each play.

Yep, if he earns the starting position, he’ll be the starter. Excellent analysis.

Anyway, if Hugley is a starter, great, but who’s going to back him up if we don’t bring in someone else? Like Free and Hunter, he also has an injury history, and he’s not exactly been a model of consistency. There’s no way Sean intends to roll with the uncertainty of Free, Hunter, and Hugley. I mean, I would not pencil Hunter in for anything and would consider whatever he offers to be a bonus. As you alluded, hopefully, Sean can land some more meaningful front court pieces.

[Xville]

30 minutes a game? He averaged just under 18 minutes a game at Oklahoma. I would say 15-20 minutes a game is more of a realistic number. Still need an impact starting center to complete the front court.

He averaged 30 a game the last season he was fully healthy.

As far as trio, he is speaking about him, free and hunter but you already knew that.

When even Lou is pointing out your consistent negativity, you should probably take a step back and evaluate how you are acting and how people are perceiving you on here. Food for thought.

[Xville]

Yep, if he earns the starting position, he’ll be the starter. Excellent analysis.

Anyway, if Hugley is a starter, great, but who’s going to back him up if we don’t bring in someone else? Like Free and Hunter, he also has an injury history, and he’s not exactly been a model of consistency. There’s no way Sean intends to roll with the uncertainty of Free, Hunter, and Hugley. I mean, I would not pencil Hunter in for anything and would consider whatever he offers to be a bonus. As you alluded, hopefully, Sean can land some more meaningful front court pieces.

My guess is we get another rotational 5, (apparently the Miami guy is ours if we want him) or garrison or some other dude. I think the star 5s are just too much… we didn’t get those guya before nil, I dunno why some on here think we suddenly are going to now.

[xuphan]

He averaged 30 a game the last season he was fully healthy.

As far as trio, he is speaking about him, free and hunter but you already knew that.

When even Lou is pointing out your consistent negativity, you should probably take a step back and evaluate how you are acting and how people are perceiving you on here. Food for thought.

See, if you even read my posts I said that I will praise Miller when he does well and criticize him when he doesnÂ’t. LetÂ’s go through my recent praise of Miller shall we? Praised him for getting rid of the fringe players on the squad. Praised him for being in a rotational Big in Hugley. The back court portal guys have been really good so I praise him. Love how my praise of Miller gets overlooked for calling him out after last season. Like I am suppose to be forever greatful after the screw up in the portal last offseason that resulted in the worst season in recent memory of the program. Just food for thought but you CAN praise and criticize a head coach. ItÂ’s ok to do it. If you donÂ’t like people who criticize the coach you can always hit the ignore button because I will praise Miller when he does well and criticize him when he doesnÂ’t. Just like I do all coaches.

[Xville]

See, if you even read my posts I said that I will praise Miller when he does well and criticize him when he doesnÂ’t. LetÂ’s go through my recent praise of Miller shall we? Praised him for getting rid of the fringe players on the squad. Praised him for being in a rotational Big in Hugley. The back court portal guys have been really good so I praise him. Love how my praise of Miller gets overlooked for calling him out after last season. Like I am suppose to be forever greatful after the screw up in the portal last offseason that resulted in the worst season in recent memory of the program. Just food for thought but you CAN praise and criticize a head coach. ItÂ’s ok to do it. If you donÂ’t like people who criticize the coach you can always hit the ignore button because I will praise Miller when he does well and criticize him when he doesnÂ’t. Just like I do all coaches.

Yeah you keep saying that, but the reality is that almost every post of yours this entire offseason has been negative about Xavier and miller. It’s fine to be critical, it’s another to just repeat negative post after negative post saying the same thing over and over. I made a post about Hugley’s tweet and it was another subtle dig at miller/xu about the same thing. Your prerogative I guess. You’d think if multiple people are telling you the same thing, that maybe some self awareness would be in order.

[IM4X]

Welcome to the X family Mr. Hugley!

Looking forward to you, the other incoming transfers, our returning core players and our incoming freshman getting us to our first Final 4 next season.

[xuphan]

Yeah you keep saying that, but the reality is that almost every post of yours this entire offseason has been negative about Xavier and miller. ItÂ’s fine to be critical, itÂ’s another to just repeat negative post after negative post saying the same thing over and over. I made a post about HugleyÂ’s tweet and it was another subtle dig at miller/xu about the same thing. Your prerogative I guess. YouÂ’d think if multiple people are telling you the same thing, that maybe some self awareness would be in order.

Some self-awareness coming from a guy who made a recent post about fornication with another posters mom? IÂ’m with Xuperman on how XU Lou or Uncle Lou gets banned for his comments but nothing seems to happen with a post like that. I have given my valid reasons for criticism under Miller since the mess up of the front court last offseason. Still a long ways to go in the portal and hopefully Miller has learned his lesson from last year and picks up a starting 5. We should find out within a month. You may not want to read this but Foster was a solid pickup by Miller and the coaching staff.

[Xuperman]

30 minutes a game? He averaged just under 18 minutes a game at Oklahoma. I would say 15-20 minutes a game is more of a realistic number. Still need an impact starting center to complete the front court.

This is what is possible.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/4432897/type/mens-college-basketball/year/2022

There is alot here that shows real impact potential. 18 boards vs Syracuse. 32 points vs BC. Shows ability to draw contact at a high clip. Pretty impressive numbers for a Soph on a real shitty team. That tells me he can stay motivated and focused.....hopefully he is "vocal leader" material.

Here is where things get really exciting. IF these 5 guys can stay healthy and get close to their career numbers, X is Championship caliber.
McKnight
Claude
Hunter
Fremantle
Hugely

Man, the experience in that group is off the chart AND you have another 5th year stud in Foster. Bring in the Young Guns consistently in rotation, and Miller will wreak some havoc!!

[XUGRAD80]

I’m sure that Miller anxiously awaits the opinions of various posters regarding his “failures” and need to “learn a lesson” from last year. I imagine that he is checking this board on a consistent basis for advice and ideas on who to pursue and the best way to bring those players to X. I’m sure he is checking to see the feedback on the recruits and how they should fit into the game plan regarding the minutes they should play and what kind of player he should expect them to be. I’m sure that he waits breathlessly to see if he will be praised or complained about. I wonder if these same people tell the priests what lessons they should try to get across in their sermons? Children, please.

One last thing for those “he needs to bring in an impact big” people……exactly who do you have in mind?

[Xville]

I’m sure that Miller anxiously awaits the opinions of various posters regarding his “failures” and need to “learn a lesson” from last year. I imagine that he is checking this board on a consistent basis for advice and ideas on who to pursue and the best way to bring those players to X. I’m sure he is checking to see the feedback on the recruits and how they should fit into the game plan regarding the minutes they should play and what kind of player he should expect them to be. I’m sure that he waits breathlessly to see if he will be praised or complained about. I wonder if these same people tell the priests what lessons they should try to get across in their sermons? Children, please.

One last thing for those “he needs to bring in an impact big” people……exactly who do you have in mind?

That's what I don't understand from a couple of posters here. What does this even mean and what do you think is possible? There is a limited supply of the 5 position even available (Ballo, Cliff, Raynaud, Aidoo) and X isn't going to get one of them. They didn't get them before NIL, so why would X get them now? Those guys go to blue bloods predominantly. Below that are the Hugley's of the world which we just got. Get one more of those and with a healthy Free, our frontcourt is going to be in great shape.

[xukeith]

Does anybody know the story why when he transferred to OU, he got hurt or didn't play much?
I heard something about this past year he had mental health issues and surgery to fix a meniscus.

His Pitt stats are impressive.

[MHettel]

Does anybody know the story why when he transferred to OU, he got hurt or didn't play much?
I heard something about this past year he had mental health issues and surgery to fix a meniscus.

His Pitt stats are impressive.

This is what interests me. His Pitt number were great. But he missed a lot of games at OU and didn’t play a lot of minutes when he did play. What are the circumstances there?

Very similar to Nunge in that sense.

Also, what was his ranking in the portal? I know everyone will say it doesn’t matter but humor me. I’d like to understand if evaluators think of him as the player he was at Pitt, or was there something about his time at OU that has been a concern.

Last point….if Hugley can be “Pitt productive” for 15 minutes a game I’d take Abou back. I think that’s about what we would settle for anyway. He’s good on defense and can rim protect a little bit.

[Xavier]

Last point….if Hugley can be “Pitt productive” for 15 minutes a game I’d take Abou back. I think that’s about what we would settle for anyway. He’s good on defense and can rim protect a little bit.

That’s an interesting idea. X seems to have the kid from Miami who seems like a slightly more polished Nzeh, if they want him. Athletic, can run the floor. Maybe a decent pick and roll option. 3 years left but still more of a project like Nzeh. As frustrating as Abou was, I can maybe see him getting back up minutes and being solid in that role.

[Xville]

This is what interests me. His Pitt number were great. But he missed a lot of games at OU and didn’t play a lot of minutes when he did play. What are the circumstances there?

Very similar to Nunge in that sense.

Also, what was his ranking in the portal? I know everyone will say it doesn’t matter but humor me. I’d like to understand if evaluators think of him as the player he was at Pitt, or was there something about his time at OU that has been a concern.

Last point….if Hugley can be “Pitt productive” for 15 minutes a game I’d take Abou back. I think that’s about what we would settle for anyway. He’s good on defense and can rim protect a little bit.

I saw he had some knee issues his first year at Oklahoma, and then some mental health struggles along with it. He then tore his meniscus last year so he basically hasn't been healthy since Pitt. I know when he transferred out of Pitt he was ranked extremely high.

Now he's at 175 which just for comparison sake...guys like Pop Isaccs and Skyy Clark are around that number. Abou 185...Bj Freeman is 172 and highly sought after by X, Providence, Florida State, etc. Transfer Rankings mean very little to me, but there ya go.

As far as your last point, it is interesting. I wonder whose decision it was...maybe Abou is looking for starter 30-35 minutes at a notch below and Miller said thank you but no thank you...who knows. Regardless, I do agree it's an interesting idea.

[MHettel]

This is what interests me. His Pitt number were great. But he missed a lot of games at OU and didn’t play a lot of minutes when he did play. What are the circumstances there?

Very similar to Nunge in that sense.

Also, what was his ranking in the portal? I know everyone will say it doesn’t matter but humor me. I’d like to understand if evaluators think of him as the player he was at Pitt, or was there something about his time at OU that has been a concern.

Last point….if Hugley can be “Pitt productive” for 15 minutes a game I’d take Abou back. I think that’s about what we would settle for anyway. He’s good on defense and can rim protect a little bit.

Let me correct this. I meant to say hugley plays 25 minutes, leaving 15 available.

[Xville]

Ryan Conwell is following John Hugley on twitter....that has to be a good sign, right?

Conwell went to Pike for high school...didn't one of our recent guys in the last 5-10 years go to Pike?

[GoMuskies]

Cage went to Pike.

[Xavier]

Ryan Conwell is following John Hugley on twitter....that has to be a good sign, right?

Conwell went to Pike for high school...didn't one of our recent guys in the last 5-10 years go to Pike?

Would be an Awesome get. If I had to guess it would be conwell or Maddox. But if it’s not and we get both, while keeping Claude, the talent and depth on the team would be great. If Freemantle is close to what he was, we’d be looking at a protected seed type of year.

Green would likely leave because he’d see almost no time. But that’s ok. Dream scenario

[D-West & PO-Z]

That’s an interesting idea. X seems to have the kid from Miami who seems like a slightly more polished Nzeh, if they want him. Athletic, can run the floor. Maybe a decent pick and roll option. 3 years left but still more of a project like Nzeh. As frustrating as Abou was, I can maybe see him getting back up minutes and being solid in that role.

I asked Broering in his spaces he did last night about any of our bigs in the portal (who havent committed elsewhere already) returning if we didn't hit on another big man in the portal. He said Xavier does not want that and that would not be the plan. I got the sense (which I thought already) that Miller/X probably nudged each of those players to the portal and Miller has no interest in them returning.

I'd be ok taking Ciani or About back however. But maybe better to take someone else where they see promise?

[Xville]

Whoa! Seeing Maddox may have committed. It’s Twitter though so will wait for something official. Posted almost an hour ago and haven’t seen any follow up anywhere. Hmm

[Xville]

UConn gets reed… the rich get richer. Wouldn’t be surprised to see them grab mcneeley and some other stud guard soon

[XUBison]

I asked Broering in his spaces he did last night about any of our bigs in the portal (who havent committed elsewhere already) returning if we didn't hit on another big man in the portal. He said Xavier does not want that and that would not be the plan. I got the sense (which I thought already) that Miller/X probably nudged each of those players to the portal and Miller has no interest in them returning.

I'd be ok taking Ciani or About back however. But maybe better to take someone else where they see promise?

I have the sense that Sean was bothered by the effort/attitude more than the ability/talent of some of these guys. I think Hugley is definitely an upgrade in the former, and hopefully in the latter. As for some additional front court pieces, I do think one or two guys in the mold of Abou and Ciani would be ideal supplements to what we now have. You know, big guys capable of making an *impact*, if that’s the word we’re going with here.

[xukeith]

Per Twitter Maddox has committed to X.

Waiting for confirmation

[XUMIOH12]

I have the sense that Sean was bothered by the effort/attitude more than the ability/talent of some of these guys. I think Hugley is definitely an upgrade in the former, and hopefully in the latter. As for some additional front court pieces, I do think one or two guys in the mold of Abou and Ciani would be ideal supplements to what we now have. You know, big guys capable of making an *impact*, if that’s the word we’re going with here.

adding 1 more good big is a priority for them right now.

[xukeith]

UConn gets reed… the rich get richer. Wouldn’t be surprised to see them grab mcneeley and some other stud guard soon

Reid Ducharme? lol

[XUBison]

That's what I don't understand from a couple of posters here. What does this even mean and what do you think is possible? There is a limited supply of the 5 position even available (Ballo, Cliff, Raynaud, Aidoo) and X isn't going to get one of them. They didn't get them before NIL, so why would X get them now? Those guys go to blue bloods predominantly. Below that are the Hugley's of the world which we just got. Get one more of those and with a healthy Free, our frontcourt is going to be in great shape.

Woe is us, I guess. — I’m not sure what you’re worked up about here. There’s a wide spectrum between the five star-ish big men and an *impact* big man. We’ve had lots of impact big men, as you know. I think the point here is simply that we need a vastly improved front court from last year. Free and Hunter go a long way to satisfy that need, but there is a lot of uncertainty there. Hugley is a great addition, I think, but he is also a 275 lb big man with aninjury history. Obviously Sean gets this, and it is up to him to bring in the necessary pieces to fill out the roster.

[Xavier]

I don’t think that’s a reliable account, more speculation since he is on campus. I’d wait for something more serious to come out.

[Xville]

I don’t think that’s a reliable account, more speculation since he is on campus. I’d wait for something more serious to come out.

Yeah, agreed...

[Xville]

Woe is us, I guess. — I’m not sure what you’re worked up about here. There’s a wide spectrum between the five star-ish big men and an *impact* big man. We’ve had lots of impact big men, as you know. I think the point here is simply that we need a vastly improved front court from last year. Free and Hunter go a long way to satisfy that need, but there is a lot of uncertainty there. Hugley is a great addition, I think, but he is also a 275 lb big man with aninjury history. Obviously Sean gets this, and it is up to him to bring in the necessary pieces to fill out the roster.

So, then would you say Hugley is an impact big or not?

My point is that some are acting like we still need to get an "impact" big as in someone better...what does that even mean? If Hugley isn't an impact big, then the only thing bigger are those blueblood guys. just the facts.

[XUBison]

So, then would you say Hugley is an impact big or not?

My point is that some are acting like we still need to get an "impact" big as in someone better...what does that even mean? If Hugley isn't an impact big, then the only thing bigger are those blueblood guys. just the facts.

Yep, he is an impact player. I haven’t said anything to the contrary.. I also haven’t seen anyone saying we have to land the very top big man prospects, just that we need more good (better) front court players. I think you’re sort of arguing with yourself here.

[Xville]

Yep, he is an impact player. I haven’t said anything to the contrary.. I also haven’t seen anyone saying we have to land the very top big man prospects, just that we need more good (better) front court players. I think you’re sort of arguing with yourself here.

Haven't said you did. However, others are:

"He hasn’t brought in a starting center and hasn’t been able to attract an impact center both last year and this year so far."

"Still need an impact starting center to complete the front court"

[IM4X]

So, then would you say Hugley is an impact big or not?

My point is that some are acting like we still need to get an "impact" big as in someone better...what does that even mean? If Hugley isn't an impact big, then the only thing bigger are those blueblood guys. just the facts.

While I think everyone is excited about getting Hugley, there are legit reasons some on this board (including yours truly) think it would be wise for Sean to secure not just another big - but specifically a true center. In fact, I would be surprised if Sean isn’t still making it a priority.

1. Sean must make sure he will have enough healthy bigs to play every game next season. Hugley was unable to make it through either of his past two seasons (first at Oklahoma and then Pitt the previous season) without having to miss time due to injury or personal issues. We already have two bigs on the roster who have had reoccurring injuries which caused them to miss long stents (even entire seasons) due to their injuries and who’s to say they don’t suffer another injury. Sean can not afford to have another season squandered because he again does not have enough bigs on the roster who are either effective or healthy enough to play next season. He knows it just can’t happen.

2. Hugley is not a true center. He is a 6’9” PF/C. Having another taller center with a longer wingspan - who will make it much harder to score over (closer to a Nunge type player) would really compliment the other bigs on this team and make them more complete. Sean probably won’t get someone as skilled as Nunge, but he can get someone close to his size who can match up with other tall centers, defend well in the paint and rebound pretty well… and make more of those easy buckets that last years bigs couldn’t.

[Xville]

Hugley will 100% be playing a lot of 5 either as the starter or as a rotational guy. I do agree though that X needs to get another big man for a lot of reasons and Miller is working on it...I listed the guys yesterday that they are currently going after.

[GoMuskies]

UConn gets reed… the rich get richer.

Reed averaged 9 points on an 8 win team. How much richer did they get?

[xuphan]

While I think everyone is excited about getting Hugley, there are legit reasons some on this board (including yours truly) think it would be wise for Sean to secure not just another big - but specifically a true center. In fact, I would be surprised if Sean isn’t still making it a priority.

1. Sean must make sure he will have enough healthy bigs to play every game next season. Hugley was unable to make it through either of his past two seasons (first at Oklahoma and then Pitt the previous season) without having to miss time due to injury or personal issues. We already have two bigs on the roster who have had reoccurring injuries which caused them to miss long stents (even entire seasons) due to their injuries and who’s to say they don’t suffer another injury. Sean can not afford to have another season squandered because he again does not have enough bigs on the roster who are either effective or healthy enough to play next season. He knows it just can’t happen.

2. Hugley is not a true center. He is a 6’9” PF/C. Having another taller center with a longer wingspan - who will make it much harder to score over (closer to a Nunge type player) would really compliment the other bigs on this team and make them more complete. Sean probably won’t get someone as skilled as Nunge, but he can get someone close to his size who can match up with other tall centers, defend well in the paint and rebound pretty well… and make more of those easy buckets that last years bigs couldn’t.

100% agree! We still need a true Center.

[Xville]

Reed averaged 9 points on an 8 win team. How much richer did they get?

Just imagine what a 6'10 265 athletic freak can do with a real coach.

[drudy23]

We definitely need 1 more big. Hope we can land one, and hoping the team gets much more balanced and doesn't have to rely on the guards so much.

[X-band '01]

I don’t think that’s a reliable account, more speculation since he is on campus. I’d wait for something more serious to come out.

I'm waiting for a Markus Walters confirmation.

[Xville]

Nwoko committed to miss state.

Hopefully x is getting Garrison, if not back to the drawing board a bit with bigs.

[XU_Lou]

Still waiting for that official Dante Maddox announcement.

Kind of weird that Rick Broering gets crucified for supposedly being a purveyor of fake news, but we run with some guy on Twitter named @cieguardians?

[Xville]

Never said it was official, I even stated that in the post it was Twitter. Gawd forbid.

Yesterday’s news came from Twitter first from a suspect handle about 30 mins before anyone as well. Turned out to be real. Shit happens

[MHettel]

Nwoko committed to miss state.

Hopefully x is getting Garrison, if not back to the drawing board a bit with bigs.

Back the truck up for Garrison. That solves the Center spot for sure

[Xavier]

Illinois board says they are hearing Maddox will be committing to X. The writing on the wall appears that way. But until an official commitment I’m not getting excited about it. Louisville was going to offer the most money….at least that’s what was speculated. How anyone would know that is beyond me so I don’t put any stock in that

[xuphan]

Illinois board says they are hearing Maddox will be committing to X. The writing on the wall appears that way. But until an official commitment I’m not getting excited about it. Louisville was going to offer the most money….at least that’s what was speculated. How anyone would know that is beyond me so I don’t put any stock in that

I think we are in a really good position given he has made it to his visit with us without committing elsewhere. We should find out where he is going as he said he will be committing soon. Would be an excellent pickup for Miller and co.

[Xville]

Illinois board says they are hearing Maddox will be committing to X. The writing on the wall appears that way. But until an official commitment I’m not getting excited about it. Louisville was going to offer the most money….at least that’s what was speculated. How anyone would know that is beyond me so I don’t put any stock in that

Reading the tea leaves on Louisville it seems that Maddox is out on them at least because they have picked up a few guys around the same height/ strengths for visits.

[flatspat]

I think we are in a really good position given he has made it to his visit with us without committing elsewhere. We should find out where he is going as he said he will be committing soon. Would be an excellent pickup for Miller and co.
Looking for a 3pt shooter
Kolby Brea of Dayton is out there best 3pt shooter in country

[xukeith]

How many guards does X need?
McKnight, Green, Foster, Powell, Maddox/Conwell, Claude ?
Too many is an option.
If Miller sells Maddox and Conwell on playing together, Green might be on the outside looking in for minutes.

[Xville]

How many guards does X need?
McKnight, Green, Foster, Powell, Maddox/Conwell, Claude ?
Too many is an option.
If Miller sells Maddox and Conwell on playing together, Green might be on the outside looking in for minutes.

I doubt it happens but if X gets Maddox and Conwell, I'd be surprised if Green stayed.

[drudy23]

Unfortunately for young and unproven college athletes, this is their new reality. It's going to be even more important than ever to ensure your college choice is the right level/skill fit for you. If you swing too high, you're constantly going to be recruited over.

Not saying Green swung too high...

[Xuperman]

Green is very talented AND he has zero position confusion. He is 100% pure PG.....a PG that possesses a lethal deep ball. However, he will need to show to be an elite facilitator OR a lock down defender in addition, because his size tends to be a liability in our conference. IMO, bringing in these 6'3" 200+ type guys, with multiple years in D1 weight rooms and proven high statistical production, is more favorable to a high degree of success during the BEast grind. That said, Green is certainly expendable in the Portal reality.

[muskiefan82]

I wouldn't mind seeing what Green can do when every defense knows they don't have to care about our frontcourt. Green was never going to get good, consistent, unhurried looks when everyone knew that perimeter scoring was our only weapon

[drudy23]

I wouldn't mind seeing what Green can do when every defense knows they don't have to care about our frontcourt. Green was never going to get good, consistent, unhurried looks when everyone knew that perimeter scoring was our only weapon

For sure - could be a huge asset off the bench if he can get open looks.

[Xavier]

According to the OSU board, Conwell might be canceling his expected visit this weekend after his visit to X. Looks like a lot of moving parts right now but for the moment X appears to be in good position. Landing two 40% 3 shooters would be massive. We will see.

[GIMMFD]

According to the OSU board, Conwell might be canceling his expected visit this weekend after his visit to X. Looks like a lot of moving parts right now but for the moment X appears to be in good position. Landing two 40% 3 shooters would be massive. We will see.

God I would love that so much, we were severely missing any outside threats last year, and having 2 guys that can be extremely dangerous from deep will open things up so much more. I'm liking how this roster is shaping out potential wise, definitely more excited for next year than last year.

[Xville]

Maddox making his decision live at 3pm on Youtube, field of 68y. Fingers crossed.

[MHettel]

I wouldn't mind seeing what Green can do when every defense knows they don't have to care about our frontcourt. Green was never going to get good, consistent, unhurried looks when everyone knew that perimeter scoring was our only weapon

I just think about "roles" on a team. There are like 8-9 key roles. You have starters, then a backup ballhandler, a backup 2/3, a backup 3/4, a backup 4/5. You need a perimeter shooter and a stretch shooter off the bench. Some of the guys can fulfill more than one of the backup roles.

I see Green as a fit for backup ballhandler and perimeter shooter.

Given that we have some actual VACANCIES for the starting positions, it would seem that our recruiting focus should be on filling those. This is not dissimilar to my thoughts when all 3 of Ciani, Abou, and Nzeh left. One of those guys could have been the backup 4/5. Them all leaving just created another need.

I'd like to keep Green. Dont know if that means we wont be getting one of these other guys, but of well.

In this current environment, it might makes sense to just go deep and play very up tempo. Tell guys that 15-25 minutes a night is the range they should expect. Get 8-9 guys where the talent drop off is not so severe as it normally is when you got to the bench. Play fast and try to take advantage of teh opponent needing to give their main guys a rest. You could stock up on decent sized 2/3 players from the portal to do this.

[XUMIOH12]

Maddox making his decision live at 3pm on Youtube, field of 68y. Fingers crossed.

Tune in if you want good news. X it is

[xuphan]

Tune in if you want good news. X it is

I thought he was still on his visit to X? What a get by the coaching staff if they can sign him. Very talented guard.

[Xville]

I thought he was still on his visit to X? What a get by the coaching staff if they can sign him. Very talented guard.

Yesterday… all the on3 predictions have gone to x. This is a great get. If they somehow pull comwell too, wow

[IM4X]

Tune in if you want good news. X it is

Mad-do-X!

[IM4X]

Is anyone hearing if we have a realistic shot with one of more of these bigs?

Cliff Omoruyi 6-11 (Rutgers ) 10.4 ppg 8.3 rpg 2.9 bpg - good rim protecting. rebounder. shot blocker. Seems percent fit for X.

Danny Wolf 7-0 (Yale) 14.1 ppg 9.7 rpg 1.3 bpg

Jonas Aidoo 6-11 (Tennessee) 11.4 ppg 7.3 rpg 1 bpg

Javon Porter 6-11 (Pepperdine) 16.2 ppg 5.9 rpg 1 bpg

Amari Williams 6-10 (Drexel) 12.2 ppg 7.8 ppg 1.8 bpg

Vladislav Goldin 7-1 (Florida Atl) 15.7 ppg 6.9 rpg 1.6 bpg

Goldin supposedly was leaning towards Michigan (where his Coach Dusty May is going) but now UCONN has reached out to him - so I’d imagine he might be a stretch to get.

[MHettel]

Yesterday… all the on3 predictions have gone to x. This is a great get. If they somehow pull comwell too, wow

If they get Maddox and Comwell, does it tell us something about Dez? We have a crowded mix at the 1/2/3 with McKnight, green, Foster, Comwell, Maddox and Dez.

Who is the backup ballhandler in that group? I would have assumed Green, but if Dez sticks around I wonder if Miller has told him he can run some point....

Extending this a little further, Swain pencils in as a 3 that can play a little small ball 4. this team could be very deep. need 1 more big that can play right away and maybe sign a "project" as well just in case.

[Xville]

Is anyone hearing if we have a realistic shot with one of more of these bigs?

Cliff Omoruyi 6-11 (Rutgers ) 10.4 ppg 8.3 rpg 2.9 bpg - good rim protecting. rebounder. shot blocker. Seems percent fit for X.

Danny Wolf 7-0 (Yale) 14.1 ppg 9.7 rpg 1.3 bpg

Jonas Aidoo 6-11 (Tennessee) 11.4 ppg 7.3 rpg 1 bpg

Javon Porter 6-11 (Pepperdine) 16.2 ppg 5.9 rpg 1 bpg

Amari Williams 6-10 (Drexel) 12.2 ppg 7.8 ppg 1.8 bpg

Vladislav Goldin 7-1 (Florida Atl) 15.7 ppg 6.9 rpg 1.6 bpg

Goldin supposedly was leaning towards Michigan (where his Coach Dusty May is going) but now UCONN has reached out to him - so I don’t he is an option.

Sadly, none of those guys are linked with X at all. Porter is probably going to Mizzou, the rest are mostly blueblood schools. X is more in line with bigs below this tier.

[MHettel]

Is anyone hearing if we have a realistic shot with one of more of these bigs?

Cliff Omoruyi 6-11 (Rutgers ) 10.4 ppg 8.3 rpg 2.9 bpg - good rim protecting. rebounder. shot blocker. Seems percent fit for X.

Danny Wolf 7-0 (Yale) 14.1 ppg 9.7 rpg 1.3 bpg

Jonas Aidoo 6-11 (Tennessee) 11.4 ppg 7.3 rpg 1 bpg

Javon Porter 6-11 (Pepperdine) 16.2 ppg 5.9 rpg 1 bpg

Amari Williams 6-10 (Drexel) 12.2 ppg 7.8 ppg 1.8 bpg

Vladislav Goldin 7-1 (Florida Atl) 15.7 ppg 6.9 rpg 1.6 bpg

Goldin supposedly was leaning towards Michigan (where his Coach Dusty May is going) but now UCONN has reached out to him - so I don’t he is an option.

The Arizona guy got 1.2M to go to Indiana. Thats strictly a "business decision" there. Why you would leave Arizona is beyond me.

In any case, he probably sets the ceiling in terms of NIL. But I would assume this list of guys would all still command 500K plus. Not sure that we have that kind of room.

[Xville]

If they get Maddox and Comwell, does it tell us something about Dez? We have a crowded mix at the 1/2/3 with McKnight, green, Foster, Comwell, Maddox and Dez.

Who is the backup ballhandler in that group? I would have assumed Green, but if Dez sticks around I wonder if Miller has told him he can run some point....

Extending this a little further, Swain pencils in as a 3 that can play a little small ball 4. this team could be very deep. need 1 more big that can play right away and maybe sign a "project" as well just in case.

I think if Conwell commits, Green is probably gone. I just don't see him sticking around because his minutes are going to be pretty small. I mean Maddox would probably even be a bench player in this scenario.

Here is how I'd see it:

PG- Mcknight, Maddox
SG--Conwell, Maddox, Powell
SF-- Des, Swain, Powell
PF- Free, Hunter, Swain
C-- Hugley

Like you said, get one more big and X is in great shape in this scenario. IMO a Top 25 for sure and maybe even top 15.

[MHettel]

Looks like AJ Storr flipped to Kansas.

So he played a year at St. Johns, transferred to Wisconsin and played a year. Then committed to Illinois, then uncommited from Illinois and has committed to Kansas.

I'm sure hes going to make alot of life long friendships during his college years. WTF??? Enjoy the college experience a little bit!

[MHettel]

I think if Conwell commits, Green is probably gone. I just don't see him sticking around because his minutes are going to be pretty small. I mean Maddox would probably even be a bench player in this scenario.

Here is how I'd see it:

PG- Mcknight, Maddox
SG--Conwell, Maddox, Powell
SF-- Des, Swain, Powell
PF- Free, Hunter, Swain
C-- Hugley

Like you said, get one more big and X is in great shape in this scenario. IMO a Top 25 for sure and maybe even top 15.

No Foster? I didnt think he was our answer to replace Q, but he's an experienced & proven guy that could help most teams in a 6th man kinda role.

[muskiefan82]

No Foster? I didnt think he was our answer to replace Q, but he's an experienced & proven guy that could help most teams in a 6th man kinda role.

LOL. We are already forgetting guys.

[XUBison]

I just think about "roles" on a team. There are like 8-9 key roles. You have starters, then a backup ballhandler, a backup 2/3, a backup 3/4, a backup 4/5. You need a perimeter shooter and a stretch shooter off the bench. Some of the guys can fulfill more than one of the backup roles.

I see Green as a fit for backup ballhandler and perimeter shooter.

Given that we have some actual VACANCIES for the starting positions, it would seem that our recruiting focus should be on filling those. This is not dissimilar to my thoughts when all 3 of Ciani, Abou, and Nzeh left. One of those guys could have been the backup 4/5. Them all leaving just created another need.

I'd like to keep Green. Dont know if that means we wont be getting one of these other guys, but of well.

In this current environment, it might makes sense to just go deep and play very up tempo. Tell guys that 15-25 minutes a night is the range they should expect. Get 8-9 guys where the talent drop off is not so severe as it normally is when you got to the bench. Play fast and try to take advantage of teh opponent needing to give their main guys a rest. You could stock up on decent sized 2/3 players from the portal to do this.

Admittedly, my expertise with bball X’s and O’s Does not stretch much beyond 7th-grade weave and motion, but I kind of like the sound of this. We’d have a floor general on the court at all times between McKnight and Claude, and we could really push an aggressive tempo. I know Sean has historically shortened the bench throughout the season, but I also know one of his greatest strengths is being adaptable as a coach. It will be interesting to see how this roster shakes out.

[Xville]

No Foster? I didnt think he was our answer to replace Q, but he's an experienced & proven guy that could help most teams in a 6th man kinda role.

Ha already forgot him...whoops :) So yeah even more depth at the 2-4

[XUBison]

Sadly, none of those guys are linked with X at all. Porter is probably going to Mizzou, the rest are mostly blueblood schools. X is more in line with bigs below this tier.

Don’t forget about the international market. I know the last batch did not go over as well as we would have hoped, but Sean has insisted this will be part of the formula.

[xudash]

UCONN proved that the "bench shortening" days of college basketball may be over for any program that wants to make serious noise in the NCAAT.

More precisely, it is about having fresh legs and the ability to weather injuries throughout a season. Get deep as possible with respect to bench strength. Then go about redefining what "bench" means. Change it from sit still, watch and wait your turn next season to be ready to go now and within this role we've carved out for you for this season. Easier said than done, perhaps, but seasons are long grinds, and selling kids on being able to realize meaningful, productive minutes over the course of an entire season should resonate with the kind of kids we're after - team-oriented, not me first (i.e. need to miss this next shoot around, because I have to pick up my new Tahoe).

I think we may be building towards something special. Last year was a nightmare anomaly. Jack Nunge was able to come back from serious injuries and distinguished himself in a Xavier uniform. I understand the concern over the injury bug, but maybe it's our time this coming season. Maybe these guys - including Hunter - are able to experience what Jack experienced while going deeper in the tournament.

I trust Sean Miller. He will get us there.

[XUMIOH12]

UCONN proved that the "bench shortening" days of college basketball may be over for any program that wants to make serious noise in the NCAAT.

More precisely, it is about having fresh legs and the ability to weather injuries throughout a season. Get deep as possible with respect to bench strength. Then go about redefining what "bench" means. Change it from sit still, watch and wait your turn next season to be ready to go now and within this role we've carved out for you for this season. Easier said than done, perhaps, but seasons are long grinds, and selling kids on being able to realize meaningful, productive minutes over the course of an entire season should resonate with the kind of kids we're after - team-oriented, not me first (i.e. need to miss this next shoot around, because I have to pick up my new Tahoe).

I think we may be building towards something special. Last year was a nightmare anomaly. Jack Nunge was able to come back from serious injuries and distinguished himself in a Xavier uniform. I understand the concern over the injury bug, but maybe it's our time this coming season. Maybe these guys - including Hunter - are able to experience what Jack experienced while going deeper in the tournament.

I trust Sean Miller. He will get us there.

uconn played a max of 8 guys actual PT. Not saying it isn't true, but all they proved was that if you have 7 really good players that cover all the positions you will win a lot of games lol.

[nuts4xu]

If they get Maddox and Comwell, does it tell us something about Dez? We have a crowded mix at the 1/2/3 with McKnight, green, Foster, Comwell, Maddox and Dez.

Who is the backup ballhandler in that group? I would have assumed Green, but if Dez sticks around I wonder if Miller has told him he can run some point....

Extending this a little further, Swain pencils in as a 3 that can play a little small ball 4. this team could be very deep. need 1 more big that can play right away and maybe sign a "project" as well just in case.

Don't worry about it, they should all gel together by the end of Christmas break.

[XUMIOH12]

Don’t forget about the international market. I know the last batch did not go over as well as we would have hoped, but Sean has insisted this will be part of the formula.

My guess is they pay 12 roster spots via NIL and then add 1 international player later on. Nothing to lose at that point either way.

[IM4X]

Sadly, none of those guys are linked with X at all. Porter is probably going to Mizzou, the rest are mostly blueblood schools. X is more in line with bigs below this tier.

Some bigs I listed may be asking too much, but it’s hard for me to believe that with freaking Sean Miller and co, X can’t reel one of those bigs on that list. Our NIL pockets may not be as deep as say a Kentucky, but we do have money and we no longer are a small time program.

Players in the portal know are typically one of the better teams in the Big East. They know we were just in the Sweet Sixteen a year ago. They know we’ve been a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament less than 10 years ago, and that weve been to a number of Elite Eights. Most importantly, they know X had several players who were part of the Sweet Sixteen roster a year ago coming back. That and a little bit of money ought to entice other complimentary high level players to want to join the team and make a run at a National Championship.

I get that good centers seem to be less plentifulI in the portal, but I refuse to believe we having to pick up the scraps.

[XUMIOH12]

Some bigs I listed may be asking too much, but it’s hard for me to believe that with freaking Sean Miller and co, X can’t reel one of those bigs on that list. Our NIL pockets may not be as deep as say a Kentucky, but we do have money and we no longer are a small time program.

Players in the portal know are typically one of the better teams in the Big East. They know we were just in the Sweet Sixteen a year ago. They know we’ve been a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament less than 10 years ago, and that weve been to a number of Elite Eights. Most importantly, they know X had several players who were part of the Sweet Sixteen roster a year ago coming back. That and a little bit of money ought to entice other complimentary high level players to want to join the team and make a run at a National Championship.

I get that good centers seem to be less plentifulI in the portal, but I refuse to believe we having to pick up the scraps.

Not getting any of the ones on the list you provided. Believe they will still get another good one though. They still have some NIL to play with.

[Xville]

Some bigs I listed may be asking too much, but it’s hard for me to believe that with freaking Sean Miller and co, X can’t reel one of those bigs on that list. Our NIL pockets may not be as deep as say a Kentucky, but we do have money and we no longer are a small time program.

Players in the portal know are typically one of the better teams in the Big East. They know we were just in the Sweet Sixteen a year ago. They know we’ve been a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament less than 10 years ago, and that weve been to a number of Elite Eights. Most importantly, they know X had several players who were part of the Sweet Sixteen roster a year ago coming back. That and a little bit of money ought to entice other complimentary high level players to want to join the team and make a run at a National Championship.

I get that good centers seem to be less plentifulI in the portal, but I refuse to believe we having to pick up the scraps.

None of those guys are coming to x, doesn’t mean we are getting scraps, just not the top centers. Still really good players like Hugley that x is involved in and could get

[IM4X]

The Arizona guy got 1.2M to go to Indiana. Thats strictly a "business decision" there. Why you would leave Arizona is beyond me.

In any case, he probably sets the ceiling in terms of NIL. But I would assume this list of guys would all still command 500K plus. Not sure that we have that kind of room.

Some of these sites that rank players in the portal don’t have half of the guys I listed anywhere in the top 200. Maybe they just don’t have a good grasp of each player’s potential value to another team. I get that it seems absurd to pursue players who are looking for the most money they can get.

I do think Sean is the type of coach who could reel in a talented center, willing to take less $ to be on a team with some proven talent - a team that could make a run at a National title. Free, Hunter, Dez are the kind of players who should entice a talented center to come aboard. In fact, Hugley pretty much hinted to it being a key factor when he commuted.

[xudash]

uconn played a max of 8 guys actual PT. Not saying it isn't true, but all they proved was that if you have 7 really good players that cover all the positions you will win a lot of games lol.

I stand corrected (I thought they went deeper than that).

Nonetheless, I still like the idea of talented depth that is used strategically. One way to look at it is that Hurley avoided a catastrophic injury bug. I recall Clingan being out earlier in the season, but they were all there at the end and stayed healthy for 6 very important games.

[bleedXblue]

boom!!! welcome Dante!!

[XUMIOH12]

I stand corrected (I thought they went deeper than that).

Nonetheless, I still like the idea of talented depth that is used strategically. One way to look at it is that Hurley avoided a catastrophic injury bug. I recall Clingan being out earlier in the season, but they were all there at the end and stayed healthy for 6 very important games.

Totally agree with that. The more good players you have, the better haha. Gives you a little cushion and more options should anything happen with injuries or foul trouble in a given game.

[Xville]

Boom! Official… Dante to X. That Twitter account knew something about something.

Great get! Man I can’t wait for Nov!

[IM4X]

MADDO:logo:

[Xavier]

Really nice addition. Beating out allegedly big money from Louisville and Illinois wanting him is solid. Illinois 247 board was in meltdown mode bc of it. Granted the whole time they thought it was between them and Louisville only.

[flatspat]

Awesome
Any updates on Conwell

[bleedXblue]

Is he a PG or SG or combo?

[xu82]

Is he a PG or SG or combo?

This says combo, but he shot 40.2% from 3, so I just want him out there! This says he’s 6’2”.

https://247sports.com/college/xavier/article/dante-maddox-visit-xavier-musketeers-transfer-portal-update-toledo-louisville-illinois-creighton-michigan-230579923/

[Xville]

Is he a PG or SG or combo?

Combo. He will backup both guard spots. Probably a 20 min a game guy assuming Conwell comes and Des stays put

[noteggs]

Man only if Sean didn’t take that vacation, can you imagine where we would be in the portal? Lol

Welcome to X Dante!

[xudash]

Man only if Sean didn’t take that vacation, can you imagine where we would be in the portal? Lol

Welcome to X Dante!

Public reps. Too funny.

[Xville]

this guy is coming in tomorrow:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5107252/justin-abson

Very athletic, Defensive presence...shot blocker

[xuphan]

Man only if Sean didn’t take that vacation, can you imagine where we would be in the portal? Lol

Welcome to X Dante!

Wasn’t the point of the post but you already know that. Great get by Miller.

[MHettel]

this guy is coming in tomorrow:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5107252/justin-abson

Very athletic, Defensive presence...shot blocker

Intriguing. Huge Reb and Blk numbers at App St in limited minutes. Worth a shot in my book.

Also, why the hell cant guys shoot FTs anymore? I havent shot a basketball in years, and even when I did I was awful. But I think with 20 minutes of practice I could hit more than 43% of my Free Throw attempts....

[XUGRAD80]

Relax…..you’ll see some additions in the next couple of days, and by the end of this week at the latest. X is in a very good place with at least 3 of their top targets and possibly as many as 5. Players are working their way through visits.

Oh ye of little faith……

Could possibly see another commit tomorrow or over the weekend.

[xu82]

Man only if Sean didn’t take that vacation, can you imagine where we would be in the portal? Lol

Welcome to X Dante!

This almost makes me want to send him away again. lol



What do fans know? I trust Miller to do his job, and do it well.

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[ArizonaXUGrad]

Now have three proven guards that shot 35+ from deep, three proven bigs coming off of injury that can hopefully play, and maybe a legit returning wing. I am cautiously optimistic.

Edit: Interesting, I thought Storr was comitted to Illinois but he just committed to KU.

[noteggs]

this guy is coming in tomorrow:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5107252/justin-abson

Very athletic, Defensive presence...shot blocker

Hmmm. 2.8 blocks a game and only 1.3 fouls. Current Sun Belt defensive POY. Intriguing indeed.

[Xville]

Garrison is apparently visiting this weekend too. He’d be a great get! Fingers crossed. Get him and Conwell and keep des and let’s go ahead and start the season.

[XU_Lou]

Interesting Tweet from Paul Fritschner. I would've thought that Des was definitely coming back by this point. It's getting fairly late in the game.

If he wasn't happy for whatever reason, wouldn't he have already announced he was leaving? Again, if Miller had told him that he wasn't going to see a lot of time at the PG spot, he would've entered his name in the portal? Or, if Miller was recruiting his replacement(s), wouldn't Des have known this some time ago?

At this point I'm thinking both Des and Green will be back - especially if there's no announcement by end of day tomorrow.





Paul Fritschner
@PaulFritschner
Dante Maddox Jr. and Marcus Foster have committed to Xavier's backcourt.

The two big decisions now are Ryan Conwell (Indiana State transfer) and Desmond Claude.

Xavier had the 8th most efficient offense in the country in '22-'23. Sky is the limit for next season.

[Dblue]

I added the last season points from everyone on the roster as of today (Free & Hunter's 22/23 season). We have over 100 points per game for next season...and we may not be done!

I hope the idea is that everyone gets similar number of possessions but maybe few minutes and we just out run everyone we play. Could be some exciting basketball starting this fall!

[Xville]

I added the last season points from everyone on the roster as of today (Free & Hunter's 22/23 season). We have over 100 points per game for next season...and we may not be done!

I hope the idea is that everyone gets similar number of possessions but maybe few minutes and we just out run everyone we play. Could be some exciting basketball starting this fall!

Agreed. I think next years team assuming we keep des and get Connell is going to look an awful lot like this past years bama team. Hopefully they can play a bit of d. But x would certainly outscore people with that roster.

[MHettel]

I see the potential in this roster, but we need more.

Caveat. This isn’t the old days where you bring back 3 starters, have a couple rotation guys become starters and then hope your freshmen can provide a few minutes. You don’t “sit” on a core group of guys and wonder what they might do in 2 or 3 years.

In this environment, you put together a new team every year. If you want a final four, then you need that roster right now. I can see it coming together, but we aren’t there yet.

Backcourt seems loaded already, and assuming nobody else comes or goes we are ready for the season. If Comwell comes, then I just have to assume either Green or Dez leaves. And I dont want either of those guys to leave (yearning for the good old days), but if it happens then I think we’re covered.

We NEED Free and Hunter back and healthy. Who knows, though, right? If they ARE back, then 4 is locked down. And a little bit of 3 if we wanna play big with Hunter there.

Still need a piece at 5. Can’t go into a season with one guy. Injuries and other things happen, so need a starting quality guy to come in and shore that up. Harrison or the guy from App St seem to be just what we need.

Last point. Having 8-9-10 deep talent means nothing if you don’t use it. We need a crazy tempo and the ability for all of these guys to get their minutes. No more seasons of Jack Nunge playing 33-34 minutes. 2 deep at every position. 20 minutes each. Team players would buy into that. Play fast enough and 20 minutes is enough.

I said the before, but I believe it more now than ever. Next years success will be determined in April.

[Xville]

Interesting Tweet from Paul Fritschner. I would've thought that Des was definitely coming back by this point. It's getting fairly late in the game.

If he wasn't happy for whatever reason, wouldn't he have already announced he was leaving? Again, if Miller had told him that he wasn't going to see a lot of time at the PG spot, he would've entered his name in the portal? Or, if Miller was recruiting his replacement(s), wouldn't Des have known this some time ago?

At this point I'm thinking both Des and Green will be back - especially if there's no announcement by end of day tomorrow.





Paul Fritschner
@PaulFritschner
Dante Maddox Jr. and Marcus Foster have committed to Xavier's backcourt.

The two big decisions now are Ryan Conwell (Indiana State transfer) and Desmond Claude.

Xavier had the 8th most efficient offense in the country in '22-'23. Sky is the limit for next season.

Has until May 1st. Agents have been circling the wagon to try to get him a better situation in exchange for representation. Obviously they haven’t yet and even if they do, doesn’t mean he willl leave. However he’s keeping his options open, which I don’t blame him. I’d like to think if we hear nothing tomorrrow he’s staying but i dunno.

[bjf123]

Don't worry about it, they should all gel together by the end of Christmas break.

Had to bring that up, didn’t you? [emoji1787]


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[D-West & PO-Z]

I see the potential in this roster, but we need more.

Caveat. This isn’t the old days where you bring back 3 starters, have a couple rotation guys become starters and then hope your freshmen can provide a few minutes. You don’t “sit” on a core group of guys and wonder what they might do in 2 or 3 years.

In this environment, you put together a new team every year. If you want a final four, then you need that roster right now. I can see it coming together, but we aren’t there yet.

Backcourt seems loaded already, and assuming nobody else comes or goes we are ready for the season. If Comwell comes, then I just have to assume either Green or Dez leaves. And I dont want either of those guys to leave (yearning for the good old days), but if it happens then I think we’re covered.

We NEED Free and Hunter back and healthy. Who knows, though, right? If they ARE back, then 4 is locked down. And a little bit of 3 if we wanna play big with Hunter there.

Still need a piece at 5. Can’t go into a season with one guy. Injuries and other things happen, so need a starting quality guy to come in and shore that up. Harrison or the guy from App St seem to be just what we need.

Last point. Having 8-9-10 deep talent means nothing if you don’t use it. We need a crazy tempo and the ability for all of these guys to get their minutes. No more seasons of Jack Nunge playing 33-34 minutes. 2 deep at every position. 20 minutes each. Team players would buy into that. Play fast enough and 20 minutes is enough.

I said the before, but I believe it more now than ever. Next years success will be determined in April.

I don't think Miller isn't going to all of a sudden play 10 guys a ton of mins 20 years into his head coaching career.

Not to mention there are some guys every year we think will be contributors who just are not for one reason or another.

Miller will probably play a lot of guys early see what combos work who steps up and settle into a rotation of 8 for the bulk of the mins.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Caveat. This isn’t the old days where you bring back 3 starters, have a couple rotation guys become starters and then hope your freshmen can provide a few minutes. You don’t “sit” on a core group of guys and wonder what they might do in 2 or 3 years.

In this environment, you put together a new team every year. If you want a final four, then you need that roster right now. I can see it coming together, but we aren’t there yet.

Backcourt seems loaded already, and assuming nobody else comes or goes we are ready for the season. If Comwell comes, then I just have to assume either Green or Dez leaves. And I dont want either of those guys to leave (yearning for the good old days), but if it happens then I think we’re covered.


The 1st two parts of this don't jive with the last parts concern about Green leaving. I don't want Green to leave either, but if Miller bringing in as much talent as he can for next season means Green does leave, then I'll take it. Don't pass on talent now because of worry about a younger guy. Those days are over.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Has until May 1st. Agents have been circling the wagon to try to get him a better situation in exchange for representation. Obviously they haven’t yet and even if they do, doesn’t mean he willl leave. However he’s keeping his options open, which I don’t blame him. I’d like to think if we hear nothing tomorrrow he’s staying but i dunno.

I'm guessing Des would have to take a step down to get a guaranteed spot on a team as the starting PG. I love Des and don't want him to leave. Think he is very good player, but there is a reason he isn't X's PG and at best I guess he could hope for a lateral move for that guarantee, where if he transferred somewhere to play what he plays for us, he could probably go almost anywhere.

[Xavier]

Xavier always wants to push the ball and play fast. I think that will continue. I wouldn’t be surprised to see times where Swain is playing the 4 (like he did at times this year) with Zach at the 5. I’d still be somewhat surprised if X can keep Des while getting Conwell. Hopefully I’m wrong. I’d really like conwell though. Maddox (40%) Conwell(40%) and McKnight (37%) would be awesome.

My guess is conwell commits to X and des hits the portal. Pure speculation. Haven’t seen that anywhere.

[MHettel]

I'm guessing Des would have to take a step down to get a guaranteed spot on a team as the starting PG. I love Des and don't want him to leave. Think he is very good player, but there is a reason he isn't X's PG and at best I guess he could hope for a lateral move for that guarantee, where if he transferred somewhere to play what he plays for us, he could probably go almost anywhere.

It’s situational. If we didn’t have McKnight, maybe Dez would play PG. but McKnight is one of our best players. And his position is PG. and since Dez can also be a small 3, we can get both of those guys on the court together. If you go with Dez at PG, the McKnight doesn’t have a secondary position and we’d have one of our best guys on the bench’s. Does t make sense to me. Only way to get both of those guys on the court together is as PG/SF

[Xuperman]

It’s situational. If we didn’t have McKnight, maybe Dez would play PG. but McKnight is one of our best players. And his position is PG. and since Dez can also be a small 3, we can get both of those guys on the court together. If you go with Dez at PG, the McKnight doesn’t have a secondary position and we’d have one of our best guys on the bench’s. Does t make sense to me. Only way to get both of those guys on the court together is as PG/SF

Sean Miller would be the absolute best individual to remedy your, or anyone else's, concerns.

[D-West & PO-Z]

It’s situational. If we didn’t have McKnight, maybe Dez would play PG. but McKnight is one of our best players. And his position is PG. and since Dez can also be a small 3, we can get both of those guys on the court together. If you go with Dez at PG, the McKnight doesn’t have a secondary position and we’d have one of our best guys on the bench’s. Does t make sense to me. Only way to get both of those guys on the court together is as PG/SF

Yeah but most programs on par with (or certainly the ones better than) X are going to have guys at the 1 who have proven themselves there and aren't looking to a get a guy who is transferring bc he couldn't get an opportunity at the position at his previous school on or below their level.

Miller went after McKnight last offseason for a reason. Claude can't do what McKnight does. Claude could just as easily prove himself as an NBA guy if he hits 45% from 3, this is probably the better path for him anyway bc he doesn't have a pg skillset that is so great that it makes up for his lack of outside shot.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Also, the only real reason anyone thinks Des is actually considering entering the portal is because a guy who makes a living by getting clicks on his website has floated that idea out there, right? Has anyone heard this from a reliable source that isn't that one?

I don't mean that as a slight towards the 247 board or RB just as a reality of the situation. Kind of seems similar to the Miller to OSU talk to me.

Also, Hett, just an FYI, it is Des with an "s", not a "z" like Dez Wells. Not trying to say that in a dickish way just noticed you had been using a "z".

[MHettel]

Also, the only real reason anyone thinks Des is actually considering entering the portal is because a guy who makes a living by getting clicks on his website has floated that idea out there, right? Has anyone heard this from a reliable source that isn't that one?

I don't mean that as a slight towards the 247 board or RB just as a reality of the situation. Kind of seems similar to the Miller to OSU talk to me.

Also, Hett, just an FYI, it is Des with an "s", not a "z" like Dez Wells. Not trying to say that in a dickish way just noticed you had been using a "z".

Dick

[Xville]

Also, the only real reason anyone thinks Des is actually considering entering the portal is because a guy who makes a living by getting clicks on his website has floated that idea out there, right? Has anyone heard this from a reliable source that isn't that one?

I don't mean that as a slight towards the 247 board or RB just as a reality of the situation. Kind of seems similar to the Miller to OSU talk to me.

Also, Hett, just an FYI, it is Des with an "s", not a "z" like Dez Wells. Not trying to say that in a dickish way just noticed you had been using a "z".

I actually have on this one. I think it’s a very small chance he leaves, but at least this one has a bit of credence to it. Not like the Ohio state thing which was complete and utter nonsense.

[drudy23]

With the money being thrown around, how can anyone not be tempted?

[Xville]

Looks like AJ Storr flipped to Kansas.

So he played a year at St. Johns, transferred to Wisconsin and played a year. Then committed to Illinois, then uncommited from Illinois and has committed to Kansas.

I'm sure hes going to make alot of life long friendships during his college years. WTF??? Enjoy the college experience a little bit!

Something weird about this dude. Went to 4 different high schools too.

[D-West & PO-Z]

With the money being thrown around, how can anyone not be tempted?

That would honestly make more sense to me than leaving to be PG.

I believe there are teams out there that would throw more money at Des to play a similar role to what he played for us. But to throw out that money and guarantee he is the PG at a level equal to or above X? That one I am having trouble believing. Also might be why he hasn't entered bc he hasn't found that opportunity.

[Xavier]

All signs are pointing to conwell and X. The athletic ranked Conwell as the 9th best transfer. 2 years remaining

[Xville]

All signs are pointing to conwell and X. The athletic ranked Conwell as the 9th best transfer. 2 years remaining

Would be uuuge.

Looks like it's really close.

Hold on to Des and get either garrison or abson and it's a top 15 team easily.

[MHettel]

Just saw that FedEx has pledged 25M for the Memphis NIL. Didn’t read the details, probably over many years and covering many sports.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Claude in the portal

[MHettel]

Would be uuuge.

Looks like it's really close.

Hold on to Des and get either garrison or abson and it's a top 15 team easily.

I agree. We may have 9 guys that have started at D1. Hope we run a system to exploit that. If we do, and it works, it could lead to X becoming an attractive destination.