2024 Coaching Carousel

[Xavgrad08]

Figure we should start a separate thread with the firings/hirings for the 2024 Coaching Carousel. Flight tracking season, hiring rumors, etc, can be entertaining. Should be some pretty good jobs that will open.

Ohio State is open after firing Holtmann. OSU will be able to start the coaching search before Michigan & Louisville. Does Ross Bjork the incoming OSU try to poach a coach from the SEC?

[Xville]

Figure we should start a separate thread with the firings/hirings for the 2024 Coaching Carousel. Flight tracking season, hiring rumors, etc, can be entertaining. Should be some pretty good jobs that will open.

Ohio State is open after firing Holtmann. OSU will be able to start the coaching search before Michigan & Louisville. Does Ross Bjork the incoming OSU try to poach a coach from the SEC?

The Louisville search has been going on a few months now. I’m pretty sure it’s probably already done.

[zippin']

The way this game has gone gives me a “the rumors are true” feel.

[Xavgrad08]

Xville any prediction or rumblings on who Louisville will go after?

[Xville]

Xville any prediction or rumblings on who Louisville will go after?

Musselman, McDermott, Indiana st guy. If I had to guess, selection has already been made

[Xavgrad08]

Musselman, McDermott, Indiana st guy. If I had to guess, selection has already been made

Thanks, I think Musselman would do very well at Louisville.

[Xville]

Thanks, I think Musselman would do very well at Louisville.

I think so too. Nil is healthy at Louisville… rumor is that it dried up quickly on the bb side at Arkansas.

[XU 23]

Miller was listed as a potential OSU candidate

[bjf123]

Miller was listed as a potential OSU candidate

He might be a candidate, but I’m 99.9999% sure he will not be their next head coach.


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[XUGRAD80]

If I had to make a guess for OSU I’d guess McDermott. But that’s just a gut feeling, I’ve nothing to go on.

I would be completely surprised if Sean goes anywhere. Wives do have influence and from what I’ve heard she isn’t interested in moving any time soon.

[Xville]

I’d guess McDermott or Paris. Paris is an Ohio guy so that would make too much sense.

[X-band '01]

Amir Abdur-Rahim is going to be on a lot of short lists in the offseason. He built Kennesaw State from a 1-win team to an NCAA Tournament team in 3 years (and damn near ruined Xavier's season last year).

This year, he's got South Florida, a perennially shitty program, on top of the American in his first season. If Sean Miller does end up leaving for whatever reason, this guy better be on Christopher's short list of coaching candidates. At the very least, he's going to get a huge raise at USF during the offseason.

[Xavgrad08]

Was impressed by Rahim after the Tournament game last year. Definitely a rising star. Unrelated, it sounds like Vandy has parted ways with Stackhouse. Edit Apparently Vandy has not canned stackhouse yet. He had been fired was tweeted by a fake media account and retweeted by happy Vanderbilt fans. They are not happy now since not true.

[bjf123]

Was impressed by Rahim after the Tournament game last year. Definitely a rising star. Unrelated, it sounds like Vandy has parted ways with Stackhouse.

Chris Mack to Vandy? Isn’t one of his daughters on the volleyball team there?


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[GIMMFD]

He might be a candidate, but I’m 99.9999% sure he will not be their next head coach.


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Agreed, I feel like after Zona he realizes the grass isn't always greener, sure Ohio State can pay whatever the hell they want for a coach, but basketball will always be second fiddle, and I don't think there's that much there that will be as enticing to leave X again, I *think* he actually loves it here, realizes how much he loves it here, and wants to be the one to take us to the next step, granted I could be way off on that feeling.

[UCGRAD4X]

Agreed, I feel like after Zona he realizes the grass isn't always greener, sure Ohio State can pay whatever the hell they want for a coach, but basketball will always be second fiddle, and I don't think there's that much there that will be as enticing to leave X again, I *think* he actually loves it here, realizes how much he loves it here, and wants to be the one to take us to the next step, granted I could be way off on that feeling.

I get that same feeling with Miller. Of course, I had similar feelings about Mack.

[Final4]

Chris Mack to Vandy? Isn’t one of his daughters on the volleyball team there?


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Not yet. Youngest daughter is at IMG this year but has committed to Vanderbilt beginning the 24-25 season. Other daughter plays at Flagler (sp?) College.

[bjf123]

Not yet. Youngest daughter is at IMG this year but has committed to Vanderbilt beginning the 24-25 season. Other daughter plays at Flagler (sp?) College.

So he could start there as head coach for her freshman year. [emoji2369]


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[GoMuskies]

Glad we dodged the Dennis Gates bullet. Does he survive his disastrous second season at Mizzou?

[Xville]

Glad we dodged the Dennis Gates bullet. Does he survive his disastrous second season at Mizzou?

He has one hell of a recruiting class coming in the at may keep him for one more year but with a new ad, all bets are off

[STL_XUfan]

He has one hell of a recruiting class coming in the at may keep him for one more year but with a new ad, all bets are off
His seat is not remotely warm at this point. A second round appearance last year bought him some goodwill and I anticipate he will be given at least 4 years prior to calls start coming for his head. Plus we want to see how Kim does at Providence before we bring him home.

[Xville]

His seat is not remotely warm at this point. A second round appearance last year bought him some goodwill and I anticipate he will be given at least 4 years prior to calls start coming for his head. Plus we want to see how Kim does at Providence before we bring him home.

Do not underestimate the BOC at Mizzou to not completely eff things up and let him go at the end of this season. The AD just went to a worse job with less money to get out of that mess.

[GoMuskies]

If he can go 0 for 2024 and stay off the hot seat, I'm not sure if that's impressive...or a sign Mizzou just doesn't care.

[Xville]

Reports out that Holtmann and Depaul have had preliminary discussions. That would be a heck of a hire for Depaul and may bring them back to relevance.

[Xavgrad08]

Reports out that Holtmann and Depaul have had preliminary discussions. That would be a heck of a hire for Depaul and may bring them back to relevance.

Holtmann and Depaul would make sense for both parties assuming Holtmannn wants to coach next season. Would be a solid hire for Depaul.

Adam Jardy of Columbus Dispartch reported Dusty May and OSU have had "early talks". No one is saying May is OSU's number one target or that he is for sure interested, but Early talks is something I suppose. What I find interesting is that it leaked. May went to Highschool in Indiana and graduated from IU where he was a manager on the basketball team. I am guessing he wants IU, but not sure IU makes a move on Woodson just yet. May would be a good get for OSU. Surprised his buyout is only one million after February.

The original article is behind paywall so I linked Bleacher Report article.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10110321-report-ohio-state-faus-dusty-may-in-early-hc-talks-after-chris-holtmann-firing

[D-West & PO-Z]

Came across an OSU fan thread on twitter about the coaching search and was surprised to see the overwhelming majority had a negative view of Miller and did not want him. Many stating they would be no longer interested in following the team with such an uninspiring hire. A couple were on the high horse about cheating but most just didn't think he was a good coach.

I hope OSU admins feel the same way! Not that I think Sean will take it anyway, but better safe than sorry!

[GoMuskies]

I could see why the bloom would be off the rose with respect to Miller for a fan of another team. Last few years at Arizona pretty well sucked. Great first year back at X, but this year is pretty much a disaster. Never been to a Final Four.

I'm thrilled we have him back and hope he stays a long time, but I get it from an outsider's perspective.

[X-band '01]

So, tanking this season was good in the long run?

[JTG]

Came across an OSU fan thread on twitter about the coaching search and was surprised to see the overwhelming majority had a negative view of Miller and did not want him. Many stating they would be no longer interested in following the team with such an uninspiring hire. A couple were on the high horse about cheating but most just didn't think he was a good coach.

I hope OSU admins feel the same way! Not that I think Sean will take it anyway, but better safe than sorry!

Living in B1G country, they all think they are the greatest bball conference even though they haven't won a NC in quite a while. They look down on everyone. IU fans think they are headed to the Final Four every year, as does MSU. The week Purdue was playing Xavier their radio guys said they didn't have any games of consequence coming up soon. Butler gets little to no coverage in Indy, and the Big East gets little mention. Not surprised OSU fans would look down on Miller.

[bjf123]

And that’s why I love it when Michigan beats tOSU in football. Their heads explode!


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[ArizonaXUGrad]

I could see why the bloom would be off the rose with respect to Miller for a fan of another team. Last few years at Arizona pretty well sucked. Great first year back at X, but this year is pretty much a disaster. Never been to a Final Four.

I'm thrilled we have him back and hope he stays a long time, but I get it from an outsider's perspective.

I posted before, Miller was a poison hire last year for any school but us. It made sense for us and him. It’s still that way now, this season’s results have been poor but his coaching is too notch. He doesn’t have the right make up on the bench.

[MHettel]

So, assuming OSU wants to fill its position as quickly as possible to get a jump on the portal, it would stand to reason that a guy like McDermott could kind of play his way out of contention if Creighton makes a deep NCAA run. But that, of course, is an unknown. How would OSU approach his candidacy? Wait for him or move on? That’s not a decision they make late, that’s one they make now.

From that angle, it would appear that Miller could be available early. However an NIT bid could be out there as well.

So, take your pick assuming an NIT bid is forthcoming.

Decline the bid and get to work on the portal early, while exposing Miller?

Or, take the bid, extend the season, and risk missing out on the first few days / weeks of portal activity?

Presumably, Miller has input on whether to accept a bid or not. Would declining a bid signal that we plan to hit the portal, or that Miller wants to hit it with OSU?

Alternatively, does accepting a bid add protection against an OSU overture? Would we want that, at the cost of a later portal focus?

(Broader question about why the portal opens when many of the best teams are still playing. Who’s idea was that?)

[JTG]

So, assuming OSU wants to fill its position as quickly as possible to get a jump on the portal, it would stand to reason that a guy like McDermott could kind of play his way out of contention if Creighton makes a deep NCAA run. But that, of course, is an unknown. How would OSU approach his candidacy? Wait for him or move on? That’s not a decision they make late, that’s one they make now.

From that angle, it would appear that Miller could be available early. However an NIT bid could be out there as well.

So, take your pick assuming an NIT bid is forthcoming.

Decline the bid and get to work on the portal early, while exposing Miller?

Or, take the bid, extend the season, and risk missing out on the first few days / weeks of portal activity?

Presumably, Miller has input on whether to accept a bid or not. Would declining a bid signal that we plan to hit the portal, or that Miller wants to hit it with OSU?

Alternatively, does accepting a bid add protection against an OSU overture? Would we want that, at the cost of a later portal focus?

(Broader question about why the portal opens when many of the best teams are still playing. Who’s idea was that?)

Excluding the Miller perspective, I'm not sure this team could win more than one NIT game, maybe not even that depending on the matchup.

[XU_Lou]

Excluding the Miller perspective, I'm not sure this team could win more than one NIT game, maybe not even that depending on the matchup.

Except for a couple of really bad games TY, this team is definitely good enough to win the NIT. Not saying that they will, but they're definitely capable.

[drudy23]

Except for a couple of really bad games TY, this team is definitely good enough to win the NIT. Not saying that they will, but they're definitely capable.

Disagree.

[MHettel]

Except for a couple of really bad games TY, this team is definitely good enough to win the NIT. Not saying that they will, but they're definitely capable.

I agree with this. By then end of the season we will have played 4 games against 1 seeds and 2 vs Marquete, a likely 2-3 seed. And there are 5 other bubble worthy Big East teams, all of which we have beaten at least one.

If we made the tourney, I’d say it would be a miracle to make the S16. But the NIT? A bunch of teams that either just missed the bubble or were a little further out? We could run that again. Not saying we would. But it’s possible in my view

[Xville]

To me, it’s inconsequential because I think there are better things that miller and staff should be doing than coaching in the nit. The roster obviously is going to go thru a pretty big overhaul, so to me it’s much more important to hit the portal early and hard. Not saying that x is “better” than the nit but with this roster, this year, I think imo its best to not play in it

[drudy23]

Hopefully we finish under .500 and it's a moot point. The NIT is for suckers.

[muskiefan82]

If X somehow gets an invite to the NIT, I think X should do whatever Q wants to do.

[noteggs]

To me, it’s inconsequential because I think there are better things that miller and staff should be doing than coaching in the nit. The roster obviously is going to go thru a pretty big overhaul, so to me it’s much more important to hit the portal early and hard. Not saying that x is “better” than the nit but with this roster, this year, I think imo its best to not play in it

Think this might be a sentiment for a lot of other coaches as well. On the other hand it gives teams more practice time but don’t think it out weighs hitting the portal early.

[MHettel]

To me, it’s inconsequential because I think there are better things that miller and staff should be doing than coaching in the nit. The roster obviously is going to go thru a pretty big overhaul, so to me it’s much more important to hit the portal early and hard. Not saying that x is “better” than the nit but with this roster, this year, I think imo its best to not play in it

I agree in part. But what needs to be considered is that only the bad teams are finished with their seasons when the portal first opens. So yeah an early start sounds like a good idea but you kind of want to see what dominoes fall before committing. I think this goes for players as well. They may enter the portal early, but prefer to wait and see if they can get a shot with a team that is making a deep tourney run and doesn’t even know it’s own roster status….

[profson]

I will think about it after we win the next two games as otherwise we are likely ineligible.

[XUGRAD80]

It’s usually later in March, after their teams are done playing, before the better players enter the portal.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I posted before, Miller was a poison hire last year for any school but us. It made sense for us and him. It’s still that way now, this season’s results have been poor but his coaching is too notch. He doesn’t have the right make up on the bench.

South Carolina offered him more money than we did.

[D-West & PO-Z]

So, assuming OSU wants to fill its position as quickly as possible to get a jump on the portal, it would stand to reason that a guy like McDermott could kind of play his way out of contention if Creighton makes a deep NCAA run. But that, of course, is an unknown. How would OSU approach his candidacy? Wait for him or move on? That’s not a decision they make late, that’s one they make now.

From that angle, it would appear that Miller could be available early. However an NIT bid could be out there as well.

So, take your pick assuming an NIT bid is forthcoming.

Decline the bid and get to work on the portal early, while exposing Miller?

Or, take the bid, extend the season, and risk missing out on the first few days / weeks of portal activity?

Presumably, Miller has input on whether to accept a bid or not. Would declining a bid signal that we plan to hit the portal, or that Miller wants to hit it with OSU?

Alternatively, does accepting a bid add protection against an OSU overture? Would we want that, at the cost of a later portal focus?

(Broader question about why the portal opens when many of the best teams are still playing. Who’s idea was that?)

Why does playing in the NIT (or the NCAA tourney for that matter) prevent a team/coaches from going after guys in the portal. I am not following that logic.

[MHettel]

Why does playing in the NIT (or the NCAA tourney for that matter) prevent a team/coaches from going after guys in the portal. I am not following that logic.

Well, time management comes to mind. Coaches work non-stop during the season. There won’t suddenly be more hours in the day to scout and engage with portal targets. We likely will have players on our team last year that none of our coaches have even heard of. They don’t just check their stats on ESPN and send them an email with a scholarship offer. They scout the players by watching film and making calls to people they know and trust.

Second, how do you prioritize you portal targets if you don’t know what your roster requires. I would guess there are a few players that have revealed their intentions to miller, but I would fully expect that if a guy like Claude, as an example, decides to enter the portal that it would be a bombshell on Miller. A surprise like that could change the entire portal strategy.

My guess is Miller has meetings with every player right after the season ends and presses them to reveal their intentions. This would also be the same meeting where Sean would reveal his intentions about the player remaking on the team.

These are not discussion you would have with active players in a current season.

So, how’s that?

[XUGRAD80]

MHET….i have to disagree with your above statement to a point. I do think that there are ongoing discussions with players throughout the year as to their intentions, and especially with players on a team in Xavier’s position.

I am equally confident that X coaches are already putting together a file of possible players to target once the portal opens. Many of those are going to players that they once recruited or have been on teams that X has played. Many others are going to be “steered” to X by coaches that the current staff has some ties with. I believe that Olivari stated that X reached out to him on the day that he went into the portal. If that is the case then they had to have had some thoughts and knowledge about him before then.

Putting film together on possible new players is one of the things that the video staff does in preparation for the actual coaches sitting down and watching it. For example, they may be told to gather all the film they can on the top possible graduate transfer rebounders in the country. They will reach out to the various contacts they have on staffs around the country and gather up all the film they can. They will then create highlight films for the top players that the coaching staff can then evaluate without having to sit down and watch complete games. This is all part of time management too. A recruiting coordinator will use their own staff to facilitate the search and work to make it effective and efficient, which allows the assistant coaches to spend more time on actual coaching of the current players.

Your correct that time management, especially in-season, is a very important part of the coaching staff’s job. But it’s not like in the old days where 2-3 assistant coaches did everything. There are now staffs of paid and unpaid people assisting the assistant coaches.

[UCGRAD4X]

There's going to be competition for the best players. Have to get a jump on the competition somehow. That makes having this kind of staff increasingly more important.

[Xville]

It’s usually later in March, after their teams are done playing, before the better players enter the portal.

Just not true. The better players are not typically on the better teams which is why they are transferring.

Knecht
Dickinson
Cam spencer
Olivari
Ike


Etc. etc. not saying good players from good teams don’t transfer but this whole “I’m transferring just for more nil money” is baloney. If Michigan was actually good. Dickinson would not have transferred.

I know that’s a tangent but that narrative that people are trying to spin hasn’t really happened and most likely won’t.

[xubrew]

It’s usually later in March, after their teams are done playing, before the better players enter the portal.

It's usually later in March because unless a player is graduating they cannot enter the portal until later in March. Unless a player is graduating at the end of this year or their coach has left, the earliest players can go into it this year is March 18.

While there isn't a rule against it, outside of the Ivy League I cannot recall an example of a player going into the portal while their team was still playing in a postseason tournament. That doesn't mean that it hasn't happened, but I can't think of when it ever did. The Ivy League does not allow for post-bachs or grad students to play, so I do recall some of their seniors going into it, but that wasn't really noteworthy since everyone knew they were going to have to transfer anyway.

[MHettel]

Just not true. The better players are not typically on the better teams which is why they are transferring.

Knecht
Dickinson
Cam spencer
Olivari
Ike


Etc. etc. not saying good players from good teams don’t transfer but this whole “I’m transferring just for more nil money” is baloney. If Michigan was actually good. Dickinson would not have transferred.

I know that’s a tangent but that narrative that people are trying to spin hasn’t really happened and most likely won’t.

Creighton went to the Elite 8 last year and could have returned essentially the entire team. But Arthur Kaluma transfered to…..Kansa State?

Neither of us really KNOW why Kaluma transferred. I could certainly put forth a theory.

Frankly, you just listed 5 guys that played on bad teams. Should I put forth a list of 5 guys that were on good teams to negate you list of guys on bad teams? Is that the idea?

The reality is that the total population of players that enter the portal is never “complete” at any time of the process. At the outset, there will only be players that aren’t playing in the postseason. Portal opens March 18, and the NCAA tourney round of 64 is on the 21st. So guys will trickle in if they don’t get out of that first weekend. By the end of the next week, 60 of the 64 teams will have been eliminated. So for practical purposes, it’s going to be 10 days or so before the portal starts reflecting the majority of the pool of players that plan to transfer. I think also there are the kids that may not initially be planning to transfer and then jump into the portal suddenly because they have been recruited over by a guy coming in that will probably take their position.

I definitely think getting in early is important, especially to get a jump on the diligence process. But the early bird won’t always get the worm in this scenario

[Xville]

Creighton went to the Elite 8 last year and could have returned essentially the entire team. But Arthur Kaluma transfered to…..Kansa State?

Neither of us really KNOW why Kalimantan transferred. I could certainly put forth a theory.

Kansas state was also an elite eight team last year and returned a lot of their team. You really think Kansas state in Manhattan has a large nil collective?

Nembhard also left creighton and it wasn’t due to nil.

[MHettel]

Kansas state was also an elite eight team last year and returned a lot of their team. You really think Kansas state in Manhattan has a large nil collective?

Nembhard also left creighton and it wasn’t due to nil.

Krissa left Arizona and might as well have had an auction (wound up at WVU).

We can go back and forth all day if you’d like.

To suggest money is not a significant factor that weighs on these decisions is just nonsense.

I’m sure there are kids in really good situations that 1) enter the portal for the money, and 2) take the highest offer on the table.

[Xville]

Krissa left Arizona and might as well have had an auction (wound up at WVU).

We can go back and forth all day if you’d like.

To suggest money is not a significant factor that weighs on these decisions is just nonsense.

I’m sure there are kids in really good situations that 1) enter the portal for the money, and 2) take the highest offer on the table.

He left because of reasons beyond nil. He was criticized directly by lloyd and az fans several times for his general play. They butted heads all year long.

I’m not saying nil isn’t a factor but they aren’t transferring just for money like you have tried to suggest.

[MHettel]

He left because of reasons beyond nil. He was criticized directly by lloyd and az fans several times for his general play. They butted heads all year long.

I’m not saying nil isn’t a factor but they aren’t transferring just for money like you have tried to suggest.

All right. I suppose you somehow can speak on behalf of all of these guys.

[Xville]

All right. I suppose you somehow can speak on behalf of all of these guys.

Just like you believe that it’s all about money.

[MHettel]

Just like you believe that it’s all about money.

I believe in the concept of how incentives modify behavior

[XUGRAD80]

I’m not going to say that all kids transfer just for the money, but it’s a fact that 1600 kids were in the portal last year and only 600 of them had entered at the end of the first week. I’d hazard to guess that most of those 600 were not on teams that played in the post season.

[kane79]

I believe in the concept of how incentives modify behavior

And there are incentives other than money.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Well, time management comes to mind. Coaches work non-stop during the season. There won’t suddenly be more hours in the day to scout and engage with portal targets. We likely will have players on our team last year that none of our coaches have even heard of. They don’t just check their stats on ESPN and send them an email with a scholarship offer. They scout the players by watching film and making calls to people they know and trust.

Second, how do you prioritize you portal targets if you don’t know what your roster requires. I would guess there are a few players that have revealed their intentions to miller, but I would fully expect that if a guy like Claude, as an example, decides to enter the portal that it would be a bombshell on Miller. A surprise like that could change the entire portal strategy.

My guess is Miller has meetings with every player right after the season ends and presses them to reveal their intentions. This would also be the same meeting where Sean would reveal his intentions about the player remaking on the team.

These are not discussion you would have with active players in a current season.

So, how’s that?

Yeah sorry, don't buy any of that.

Xavier accepting an NIT bid, if they get one, isn't going to prevent them from operating in the portal, lmao.

We have also heard several times of guys being targets who were opponents or who coaches were told about by colleagues because they have a good relationship, etc. There is a list of guys already made. These coaches get paid millions, multi tasking is a part of the gig and the good ones excel at it.

[D-West & PO-Z]

MHET….i have to disagree with your above statement to a point. I do think that there are ongoing discussions with players throughout the year as to their intentions, and especially with players on a team in Xavier’s position.

I am equally confident that X coaches are already putting together a file of possible players to target once the portal opens. Many of those are going to players that they once recruited or have been on teams that X has played. Many others are going to be “steered” to X by coaches that the current staff has some ties with. I believe that Olivari stated that X reached out to him on the day that he went into the portal. If that is the case then they had to have had some thoughts and knowledge about him before then.

Putting film together on possible new players is one of the things that the video staff does in preparation for the actual coaches sitting down and watching it. For example, they may be told to gather all the film they can on the top possible graduate transfer rebounders in the country. They will reach out to the various contacts they have on staffs around the country and gather up all the film they can. They will then create highlight films for the top players that the coaching staff can then evaluate without having to sit down and watch complete games. This is all part of time management too. A recruiting coordinator will use their own staff to facilitate the search and work to make it effective and efficient, which allows the assistant coaches to spend more time on actual coaching of the current players.

Your correct that time management, especially in-season, is a very important part of the coaching staff’s job. But it’s not like in the old days where 2-3 assistant coaches did everything. There are now staffs of paid and unpaid people assisting the assistant coaches.

100%

[MHettel]

Yeah sorry, don't buy any of that.

Xavier accepting an NIT bid, if they get one, isn't going to prevent them from operating in the portal, lmao.

We have also heard several times of guys being targets who were opponents or who coaches were told about by colleagues because they have a good relationship, etc. There is a list of guys already made. These coaches get paid millions, multi tasking is a part of the gig and the good ones excel at it.

I don’t see how any of this nonsense supports you assertion. The idea of a list is just dumb. There are 360 teams with 13 guys each. Remove the seniors and you’ve got 3500 or so players out there. We’re gonna spend time making a “list” of who may or may not enter the portal? And then commit resources to pull tape of the guys? And if they don’t enter the portal, then we just flush that time and effort? Or they do enter the portal and don’t take our calls? The reality is that the portal was already proven to be absolute chaos and establishing a definitive start and finish to it will not make it any less stable. When the season ends, it will be all hands on deck to craft a roster for next year. Can they keep an eye on the portal during the NIT? Of course they will. But those efforts will pale in comparison to how intently they will focus on it after the season is over.

Complicating things, obviously, are things like overtures to Miller and any assistant coaching changes that Miller wants to do. This have to be quick decisions with replacements lined up.

I think the whole portal timing is stupid. They should let kids enter for a few weeks. Close it. Then allow contact and commitments during a whole different period for another 3-4 weeks. Then the music stops. The idea that the portal is in full gear while the seasons is still going is just dumb and entirely avoidable.

[XUGRAD80]

MH…..do you think that the players and coaches outside of practice don’t have any communication? Or that coaches are not already in some indirect contact with players that have already quietly said their intentions to transfer after the season? How many players will not only enter the transfer portal in the 1st week, but will also commit to a new school within the 1st week? That happens pretty often. My guess is that hardly any of the kids that enter the portal are a surprise to their current coaching staff. They call it the coaching “fraternity” for a reason. Do you think that Olivari for example knew nobody on the Xavier staff before coming to X? Or that X had no clue that he would be available? Not only do coaches talk to each other, but the kids talk to each other too, and then they talk to coaches. Sometimes a college kid will tell his former HS coach that he is unhappy and the HS coach will give a heads up to other college coaches he knows. There is constant communication going on between coaches and players on all levels.

These kids play on select teams with kids from other schools, they play on national and international teams with kids from other schools. The coaches work with coaches from other schools. The coaches move around from school to school as they work their way up through the ranks. They get to know other coaches and players well. I’ll bet that there are 3-4 coaches at other schools that Miller talks with on a weekly basis. Same goes for all of the assistant coaches. Kids are constantly texting or talking with players from other schools that they know.

Do you think that Miller doesn’t already have a pretty good idea of who isn’t coming back next year? Do you think that he hasn’t communicated that to other coaches he might know? It’s against the rules for coaches from one team to contact players from another team, but it’s not against the rules for coaches or players to talk among themselves. Sure sometimes a kids decision to transfer will come as a surprise to his coaches and to others, but I’d bet that’s more of the exception than it is the rule.

[MHettel]

MH…..do you think that the players and coaches outside of practice don’t have any communication? Or that coaches are not already in some indirect contact with players that have already quietly said their intentions to transfer after the season? How many players will not only enter the transfer portal in the 1st week, but will also commit to a new school within the 1st week? That happens pretty often. My guess is that hardly any of the kids that enter the portal are a surprise to their current coaching staff. They call it the coaching “fraternity” for a reason. Do you think that Olivari for example knew nobody on the Xavier staff before coming to X? Or that X had no clue that he would be available? Not only do coaches talk to each other, but the kids talk to each other too, and then they talk to coaches. Sometimes a college kid will tell his former HS coach that he is unhappy and the HS coach will give a heads up to other college coaches he knows. There is constant communication going on between coaches and players on all levels.

These kids play on select teams with kids from other schools, they play on national and international teams with kids from other schools. The coaches work with coaches from other schools. The coaches move around from school to school as they work their way up through the ranks. They get to know other coaches and players well. I’ll bet that there are 3-4 coaches at other schools that Miller talks with on a weekly basis. Same goes for all of the assistant coaches. Kids are constantly texting or talking with players from other schools that they know.

Do you think that Miller doesn’t already have a pretty good idea of who isn’t coming back next year? Do you think that he hasn’t communicated that to other coaches he might know? It’s against the rules for coaches from one team to contact players from another team, but it’s not against the rules for coaches or players to talk among themselves. Sure sometimes a kids decision to transfer will come as a surprise to his coaches and to others, but I’d bet that’s more of the exception than it is the rule.

Sure some of this goes on. It’s not an information vacuum. But the idea that the coach and staff can direct the same amount of attention towards the portal when the season is ongoing vs when the season is concluded is asinine.

[Xville]

Sure some of this goes on. It’s not an information vacuum. But the idea that the coach and staff can direct the same amount of attention towards the portal when the season is ongoing vs when the season is concluded is asinine.

agreed. There are always some surprises too, I am sure. Playing in the NIT would only serve as a distraction for the staff and this team imo. I see no reason to play in it this year (if they are eligible) as there are bigger fish to fry.

Plus, I think the NIT is stupid imo.

[JTG]

agreed. There are always some surprises too, I am sure. Playing in the NIT would only serve as a distraction for the staff and this team imo. I see no reason to play in it this year (if they are eligible) as there are bigger fish to fry.

Plus, I think the NIT is stupid imo.

While I think the NIT is dying a slow death, maybe 5 more years, I also think winning the NIT in 2022 laid the ground work for the S16 in 23.

[XUGRAD80]

Sure some of this goes on. It’s not an information vacuum. But the idea that the coach and staff can direct the same amount of attention towards the portal when the season is ongoing vs when the season is concluded is asinine.

Well of course if they have nothing else going on they can direct more attention at the portal…..but that doesn’t mean that they can’t do a sufficient job of working the portal if they are also in a tournament. Were they in a tournament last year? Did they still bring some real quality transfers in? You know darn well that the answer to both of those questions is YES. I’ve no doubt that if X is playing in a tournament of some type later this month that the staff will still be able to comb the portal and bring in the talent that X needs for next year.

[MHettel]

Well of course if they have nothing else going on they can direct more attention at the portal…..but that doesn’t mean that they can’t do a sufficient job of working the portal if they are also in a tournament. Were they in a tournament last year? Did they still bring some real quality transfers in? You know darn well that the answer to both of those questions is YES. I’ve no doubt that if X is playing in a tournament of some type later this month that the staff will still be able to comb the portal and bring in the talent that X needs for next year.

To clarify my key points:

1. Not playing in the post season allows for more available time to spend on the portal.

2. Some of the better players and most attractive schools that are still playing will not “enter” the portal until later, making an early entrance not nearly as valuable as it would seem.

3. If you are still playing, keeping an eye on the portal makes sense. What doesn’t make sense of some kind of “list” ahead of time that a staff would spend any time on.

[XUGRAD80]

Numbers 1 and 2 are in direct conflict with each other……if the better players aren’t going to enter the portal right away, why would it be important for teams wanting players from the portal to be not playing during the 1st week or so?

As for number 3….not preparing in advance doesn’t make any sense? Wow. Who knew that prior planning is a waste of time and effort?

Do you really think that teams wait to see who enters the portal before spending any time on looking at players? If you think that’s the way it works then you have absolutely no idea how recruiting of college players works.

[xubrew]

Numbers 1 and 2 are in direct conflict with each other……if the better players aren’t going to enter the portal right away, why would it be important for teams wanting players from the portal to be not playing during the 1st week or so?

As for number 3….not preparing in advance doesn’t make any sense? Wow. Who knew that prior planning is a waste of time and effort?

Do you really think that teams wait to see who enters the portal before spending any time on looking at players? If you think that’s the way it works then you have absolutely no idea how recruiting of college players works.

I think you might be on to something!!!

[D-West & PO-Z]

To clarify my key points:

1. Not playing in the post season allows for more available time to spend on the portal.

2. Some of the better players and most attractive schools that are still playing will not “enter” the portal until later, making an early entrance not nearly as valuable as it would seem.

3. If you are still playing, keeping an eye on the portal makes sense. What doesn’t make sense of some kind of “list” ahead of time that a staff would spend any time on.

I don't think you are fully understanding what people mean when they discuss the staff having an idea of certain guys in advance. You seem to be envisioning them spending some inordinate amount of time evaluating every player on every team and ranking them and then seeing who enters. In reality as '80 has said, there are certain guys you played against that catch you eye, certain guys you friends in coaching played against they alert you to, certain guys who play or played for a current coach or high school coach who alerts you to said guy etc.

I feel like this is fairly well known and how X has gotten several guys in the past.

[xubrew]

I'm pretty sure that every D1 coaching staff in the country has one coach that checks the portal every day. Even before players can go into it, they're probably still looking at it. Right now there are probably less than 50 players in it, and someone on all 363 staffs knows who those players has looked at it today, and tomorrow, they'll look at it again. Playing in a postseason tournament doesn't hinder anyone's time in the portal. There's really only so much time you can spend in there looking at the same names over and over and over. I can't think of any coaches who ever said or thought "well, we wanted this guy, but we just missed that he was in the portal because we were still playing in a tournament.

Coaches know who is in the portal. They can SEE it!! They can pull it up on their phone at this very moment in a matter of seconds, and if there is someone in there that interests them they can make contact now. This argument would have made more sense BEFORE the portal, because going through the old process of getting permission to contact DID take time, and coaches weren't always sure who was actually looking to transfer.

[Xville]

Iu is bringing Woodson back… why I dunno but my guess then is may goes to Ohio state.

[MHettel]

Iu is bringing Woodson back… why I dunno but my guess then is may goes to Ohio state.

I saw a podcast on YouTube where Frishner and Rick B said exactly that. Maybe that’s why?

[GoMuskies]

We might be a week away from Mick Cronin to Louisville. Heads are ready to explode.

[Xville]

We might be a week away from Mick Cronin to Louisville. Heads are ready to explode.

He’s not even on the list.

They are making a run at Drew. Musselman is backup.

[American X]

Please give me Bob Huggins to Louisville. It may be the only thing to redeem this college basketball season.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Please give me Bob Huggins to Louisville. It may be the only thing to redeem this college basketball season.

I was just saying the other day that I miss having Huggins around. He’s such a great villain. It’s like Star Wars without Darth Vader

[D-West & PO-Z]

Huggins to OSU would be great, then he can actually drive drunk in Columbus instead of thinking he's driving drunk in Columbus.

[Xville]

McDermott just received a nice little extension through the 27-28 season. So cross him off the list.

[X-band '01]

Winning the last Apple Cup wasn't enough to save Mike Hopkins' job at Washington.

[MHettel]

Lorenzo Romar got whacked by Pepperdine. Maybe he can go back to UW

[Xavgrad08]

I keep forgetting that Washington will be in the Big Ten next year. Does that make it a better, or worse job than it currently is?

[UCGRAD4X]

Mike Davis out a Detroit Mercy after 1 - 31 season.

So, there is that.

[Xville]

According to Columbus, Ohio state has zeroed in on may and miller. Honestly I don’t think they get either. They are overestimating that job imo.

[bjf123]

I keep forgetting that Washington will be in the Big Ten next year. Does that make it a better, or worse job than it currently is?

Washington in the Big 10 is wrong on so many levels, but it’s not going to change.


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[Xville]

Rumor of Porter moser to DePaul being “done” out there this morning. Although I believe him to be a very average coach, it's a home run hire for where the job is right now if true.

[XUGRAD80]

Reports saying that a Kenny Payne will be out at Louisville within the next 24-48 hours. No big surprise other than, “what took you so long?”.

[GoMuskies]

If it takes 48 hours, it will be absolutely hilarious. People will be FREAKING OUT.

[Xville]

Slu is now officiallly open. Think that would be a great fit for Mack

[Xville]

Goodman reporting that DePaul and holtmann are close.

[muskiefan82]

That is a homerun for DePaul.

[GoMuskies]

Is it? Holtmann failed spectacularly (and surprisingly) at Ohio State.

[Xville]

Is it? Holtmann failed spectacularly (and surprisingly) at Ohio State.

I mean for DePaul I think it’s a home run. Just get the program back to some kind of respectability… like nit level would be huge. I think holtmann can do that.

[XUGRAD80]

I mean for DePaul I think it’s a home run. Just get the program back to some kind of respectability… like nit level would be huge. I think holtmann can do that.

I would agree that at least from a PR standpoint that getting a “name” like Holtman is big for DP. How it will turn out from a competitive standpoint only time will tell. Perhaps he will be able to get them back to respectability, perhaps not. But he certainly can’t do any worse than the last few coaches have.

[muskiefan82]

I am not sure anyone can resurrect DePaul tbh. Who would want to play there? If I want to play in Chicago, Loyola or Northwestern are situated better as universities and environment.

[drudy23]

And it's another well respected coach in the conference.

He's not going to lead them to any titles, but vying for periodic tournament bids is good for the conference.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Slu is now officiallly open. Think that would be a great fit for Mack

That would be a homerun hire.

SLU fans also really like the Indiana State coach.

Have also seen the Drake coach and Will Wade names thrown around.

[MHettel]

Stackhouse is out at Vandy too.

As far as Holtman goes, I kinda like DePaul as the Big East punching bag. Every conference need 1-2 of those. As long as it’s not us.

[drudy23]

Stackhouse is out at Vandy too.

As far as Holtman goes, I kinda like DePaul as the Big East punching bag. Every conference need 1-2 of those. As long as it’s not us.

Mack to Vandy?

[GoMuskies]

I'm sure Penny is safe at Memphis given his recruiting prowess and the fact that he's Penny at Memphis, but man is he a terrible coach.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Mack to Vandy?

His daughter starting there next year makes that an interesting proposition, otherwise why would he want that job? Also risky to pick just bc his daughter is going there to play, what if she hates it or isn’t good enough and wants to transfer? Will be interesting to see.

[XUBison]

Stackhouse is out at Vandy too.

As far as Holtman goes, I kinda like DePaul as the Big East punching bag. Every conference need 1-2 of those. As long as it’s not us.

I think it’s better when the punching bag is not the same team, every — single — year. Besides, Georgetown is raring to take that mantle.

[Xavgrad08]

I think Vandy is a tough job in the SEC. If Mack takes it he better get good NIL and get Vandy to get flexible with the Academic requirements.

[Xville]

I think Vandy is a tough job in the SEC. If Mack takes it he better get good NIL and get Vandy to get flexible with the Academic requirements.

Yeah if I’m Mack I’m taking the slu job if offered over vandy. Slu should be good. St. Louis and southern Illinois is a good recruiting bed and slu has a very nice arena modeled after Cintas. It shouldn’t be as hard as ford made it seem to win there

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah if I’m Mack I’m taking the slu job if offered over vandy. Slu should be good. St. Louis and southern Illinois is a good recruiting bed and slu has a very nice arena modeled after Cintas. It shouldn’t be as hard as ford made it seem to win there

Correct. Ford was awful. Majerus has shown what a good coach can do at SLU. They have the facilities, the market, the fan support, and the money, just need the coach. Ford was the highest paid coach in the A10 which is criminal.

[MHettel]

Correct. Ford was awful. Majerus has shown what a good coach can do at SLU. They have the facilities, the market, the fan support, and the money, just need the coach. Ford was the highest paid coach in the A10 which is criminal.

I’m from St. Louis and can say confidently that it is NOT a basketball town. SLU has some fans, and more when they are good. But as far as general enthusiasm for college basketball it will fall well short of Cincy and then 100 mile radius of Cincy.

Mack might be in for a surprise if he took that job

[D-West & PO-Z]

I’m from St. Louis and can say confidently that it is NOT a basketball town. SLU has some fans, and more when they are good. But as far as general enthusiasm for college basketball it will fall well short of Cincy and then 100 mile radius of Cincy.

Mack might be in for a surprise if he took that job

I am not saying it is a basketball town, it is a baseball town first and foremost then a hockey town. And for the record I don't think anyone would call Cincinnati a basketball town.

They were one of the worst teams in the A10 this year and averaged over 5,600 fans per game and that is following up on a growing number of years of frustration with Ford and the AD.

Last year they were better but still not a tourney team and averaged 6,700 fans.

The fan support is enough to sell out the 10,600 person arena when the team is good. I saw it first hand with Majerus.

How many fans do you think X would bring in if we kept a coach for a decade who made 1 NCAA tourney and never won a tourney game?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Ok I just looked it up and I was off a little if what I found was accurate.

SLU sold out the big games but on average in Majerus' good years they brought in around 8,000 fans.

St. Louis can be tough for SLU to some extent with so many Mizzou and Illinois fans in the city but SLU also hasn't experienced any sustained winning. (Heading that way with Majerus before his death).

Def have money though and facilities and with a consistent winner big games sell out and they could average close to that.

[Xville]

I am not saying it is a basketball town, it is a baseball town first and foremost then a hockey town. And for the record I don't think anyone would call Cincinnati a basketball town.

They were one of the worst teams in the A10 this year and averaged over 5,600 fans per game and that is following up on a growing number of years of frustration with Ford and the AD.

Last year they were better but still not a tourney team and averaged 6,700 fans.

The fan support is enough to sell out the 10,600 person arena when the team is good. I saw it first hand with Majerus.

How many fans do you think X would bring in if we kept a coach for a decade who made 1 NCAA tourney and never won a tourney game?

Correct. Im from there and in the a-10, there is no other team that has the resources slu has besides maybe Dayton. They should be top 3 in the league every year, but need the right coach. And as I said just recruiting St. Louis and southern Illinois is good enough to put a very solid a-10 team together.

[D-West & PO-Z]

St. Louis is a big soccer town as well I forgot to mention.

SLU actually holds the record for most national championships in men's soccer.

SLU just needs to find their next Larry Hughes!

The potential is there.

[STL_XUfan]

SLU just needs to find their next Larry Hughes!



and it turns out it is not Larry Hughes Jr.

[D-West & PO-Z]

and it turns out it is not Larry Hughes Jr.

Ha, correct. So much so, I almost forgot about him!

[Xville]

Thru sources, have heard that Louisville pushed their chips into the middle with Drew's Agent yesterday....8 million per and 3 mil promised in NIL Dollars. We shall see if Drew is interested in leaving or not at that number.

[paulxu]

...8 million per

That's insane.

[Xville]

That's insane.

it's a big number, but according to USA today hes making 5.7 at Baylor and has a great gig, so got to make it enticing somehow.

[UCGRAD4X]

I'm wondering how they can contractually promise NIL $$$.

[Xville]

I'm wondering how they can contractually promise NIL $$$.

Guessing it’s not, just a hey here’s what we have to work with.

[MHettel]

Stanford open as well

Will be interesting to see the interest level in that job. Moving to the ACC, which will be tougher than the PAC 12, and of course the coast to coast travel.

[MHettel]

And Juwan Howard out at Michigan.

That job should garner some interest

[Xville]

Dusty May is going to have a nice $ pick ahead of him. I think Kelsey is going to get one of these jobs too.

[drudy23]

I think Kelsey is going to get one of these jobs too.

He's got a pretty good gig in Charleston.

$1M per year in a vacation destination or $2M per year in mid-America at an average program in a major conference?

[Xville]

The dumbass Columbus Dispatch finally learned something that all of us knew...Miller isn't taking that job.

May, Diebler now "top candidates."

[Xville]

He's got a pretty good gig in Charleston.

$1M per year in a vacation destination or $2M per year in mid-America at an average program in a major conference?

I know which one I'd choose, but maybe Kelsey wants to be at a "big time" conference school.

[Xavgrad08]

He's got a pretty good gig in Charleston.

$1M per year in a vacation destination or $2M per year in mid-America at an average program in a major conference?

You are correct. I have thought about this and don’t have an answer. I am guessing Pat has a high quality of life at Charleston. One thing to note, the OSU and Michigan job will pay a lot more than 2 million a year in HC salary. Kelsey can be selective, but he will not finish his career at Charleston.

[XUGRAD80]

And Juwan Howard out at Michigan.

That job should garner some interest

Probably the most attractive job out there right now.

[drudy23]

You are correct. I have thought about this and don’t have an answer. I am guessing Pat has a high quality of life at Charleston. One thing to note, the OSU and Michigan job will pay a lot more than 2 million a year in HC salary. Kelsey can be selective, but he will not finish his career at Charleston.

I don't think Kelsey gets a job like OSU or Michigan yet - I was thinking more along the lines of a Vanderbilt.

Most of these mid-majors are still a huge jump to a major conference. Schools like Michigan and OSU are going to be under tremendous pressure to win right away. It will be hard for an AD to pull the trigger on a mid-major guy under that pressure.

Kelsey will probably get there eventually, but he needs success at somewhere in-between first.

[GoMuskies]

Probably the most attractive job out there right now.

It's not Louisville. But probably #2.

[MHettel]

It's not Louisville. But probably #2.

I think under “normal” circumstances, UofL is a better gig. But that job has just chewed up 2 guys in 6 years. Not a sure thing by any measure

[GoMuskies]

I think under “normal” circumstances, UofL is a better gig. But that job has just chewed up 2 guys in 6 years. Not a sure thing by any measure

Fair, but it's a lot easier to follow Kenny Payne than Denny Crum and Rick Pitino!

[Xville]

Louisville is back to "normal" imo. No more crazy Presidents, clueless ADs, board, or certain alumni taking advantage of an interim AD to make a DEI hire. They also don't have the FBI/NCAA cloud over them anymore. IMO the job is far and away the best one available. Top tenish historical program, NIL money is astounding, facilities are top tier and football is important but it's a basketball school.

[XUGRAD80]

It's not Louisville. But probably #2.

Just my opinion but I think that Michigan is in a much better position than UofL right now. There’s more problems in Louisville than just what Payne created. League affiliation is a big part of it too. But just my opinion in any case. Neither job is a bad one.

[94GRAD]

Louisville is back to "normal" imo. No more crazy Presidents, clueless ADs, board, or certain alumni taking advantage of an interim AD to make a DEI hire. They also don't have the FBI/NCAA cloud over them anymore. IMO the job is far and away the best one available. Top tenish historical program, NIL money is astounding, facilities are top tier and football is important but it's a basketball school.

I listened to AD Josh Heird's press conference after letting Payne go yesterday. Came away HIGHLY impressed!!!!!

[xudash]

Could you please share what you found with this. Thanks.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I don't think Kelsey gets a job like OSU or Michigan yet - I was thinking more along the lines of a Vanderbilt.

Most of these mid-majors are still a huge jump to a major conference. Schools like Michigan and OSU are going to be under tremendous pressure to win right away. It will be hard for an AD to pull the trigger on a mid-major guy under that pressure.

Kelsey will probably get there eventually, but he needs success at somewhere in-between first.

I don't know, I have seen Kelsey's name come up in some of the top jobs. Not saying that will happen but I'm not so sure he needs a bridge team before getting to some better high level jobs. He's 3rd in the vegas odds for the WVU job.

[XUGRAD80]

I don't know, I have seen Kelsey's name come up in some of the top jobs. Not saying that will happen but I'm not so sure he needs a bridge team before getting to some better high level jobs. He's 3rd in the vegas odds for the WVU job.

WVU would probably be a good fit for him. Gets him closer to home while he can still maintain some of his recruiting ties. A very good conference but not the same pressure he might have a some of the bigger openings.

[drudy23]

I don't know, I have seen Kelsey's name come up in some of the top jobs. Not saying that will happen but I'm not so sure he needs a bridge team before getting to some better high level jobs. He's 3rd in the vegas odds for the WVU job.

I would consider WVU a step in-between Charleston and Michigan/OSU.

The profile of recruit is just so much different between the mid-majors and the majors. And not to mention what NIL has done to the landscape. You're going to need someone in-tune with all of that. Not so sure it's something he's even had to worry about at a place like Charleston (and if he has, it's not near the same as these big money schools).

[D-West & PO-Z]

I would consider WVU a step in-between Charleston and Michigan/OSU.

The profile of recruit is just so much different between the mid-majors and the majors. And not to mention what NIL has done to the landscape. You're going to need someone in-tune with all of that. Not so sure it's something he's even had to worry about at a place like Charleston (and if he has, it's not near the same as these big money schools).

Yeah I think WVU is probably a step below those 2 but not anywhere close to as low as Vandy or other middling Power 5 jobs.

Goodman mentioned Kelsey's name with the Louisville job but can't imagine they will go for a mid major coach.

[SM#24]

I can't imagine Louisville will go for a guy that was Mack's assistant.

[sirthought]

Holtman is a good coach. He had some bad luck here and there, but just look how his team finished this season...pretty competitive all around. I think he could have held out for something better than DePaul, but good for them. I think he's got the recruiting chops to elevate them somewhat better than, say, Shasheen Holloway or Kim English. Still early, but we'll see where it all lands in a season or two.

If I were Kelsey I'd avoid SLU or anything lower than one of the big six conferences. Those are all getting to be one bid conferences, which means you have to be hitting home runs every time if you really want the program to maintain momentum.

Stanford going to the ACC presents are real challenge for anyone who takes that job. Travel and scheduling will be a bear. But I see him taking that job if offered. Much better job than Vandy.

Michigan is going to be a great opportunity. I kind of doubt it, but I wonder if Mack would have a shot? I don't see him going to Vandy or anywhere they are so strict with academics.

I bet Anthony Grant will be on some teams radar. Dayton has been simmering the whole time he's been there.

[Xville]

Dayton fans can’t stand grant right now so they’d probably love to send him on his way. IMO he’s a consistent underachiever.

[paulxu]

With all these openings, I would think if Mack wanted to coach instead of fish, he could land somewhere.

[xudash]

Dayton fans can’t stand grant right now so they’d probably love to send him on his way. IMO he’s a consistent underachiever.

Well, at least he has something very much in common with his employer.

[Xville]

Well, at least he has something very much in common with his employer.

Ha public reps!

[Xville]

With all these openings, I would think if Mack wanted to coach instead of fish, he could land somewhere.

I think he has the vandy job if he wants it. To me that’s a death sentence, but I guess ya never know

[Xavgrad08]

Being reported Jake Diebler will be named OSU HC.

[GoMuskies]

Being reported Jake Diebler will be named OSU HC.

I suspect that's a terrible decision and he'll be fired in three years.

[Xville]

I think Ohio state also realized it’s not that great of a job, ( as I’ve said all along) and they weren’t getting any of their top candidates. May or miller were never going there. Despite what our lame clickbait 247 writer “believed.”

[xuphan]

I think Ohio state also realized it’s not that great of a job, ( as I’ve said all along) and they weren’t getting any of their top candidates. May or miller were never going there. Despite what our lame clickbait 247 writer “believed.”

Maybe but I think it is more of a low cost hire and the sentimental factor from the fans of him being an Ohio guy. Especially with the amount of money they had to buyout Holtmann for.

[Section 200]

So we are told OSU is looking at Dusty May, Sean Miller & Greg McDermott and they just promote the Assistant? I guess no real info ever leaked from OSU it was all just clickbate?

[Section 200]

Maybe but I think it is more of a low cost hire and the sentimental factor from the fans of him being an Ohio guy. Especially with the amount of money they had to buyout Holtmann for.

OSU never has to make a low cost hire in anything so its very interesting they did.

[Xville]

OSU never has to make a low cost hire in anything so its very interesting they did.

Because anyone worth a thing said no

[JTG]

What's the early line on UL, and who is the most likely to become coach?

[Xville]

What's the early line on UL, and who is the most likely to become coach?

They have made a run at Drew. If he says no maybe may. After that is anyone’s guess

[paulxu]

I'm cheering for this Monson guy.
They fire his ass, and 5 days later he takes the team (Long Beach State) to the dance.
Well played.

[X-band '01]

It'll be even funnier when the Beach knocks out Arizona in the first round. Surely lightning can't strike twice, can it?

[MHettel]

I'm cheering for this Monson guy.
They fire his ass, and 5 days later he takes the team (Long Beach State) to the dance.
Well played.

“This Monson guy” was the coach at Gonzaga when they made their first NCAA tourney in their current streak of 25 or whatever it is. He took the money and left to Minnesota and Few took over after being an assistant.

What if…..

[GoMuskies]

What if what?

I guess Gonzaga fans can thank their lucky stars he left. If he'd have stayed, they would have been a cute little story for a couple years and then gone back to obscurity. Someone would have hired Few away, and he'd probably be about three nattys deep at like UCLA or Arizona or somewhere.

[D-West & PO-Z]

SLU has targeted and is in discussion with Josh Schertz for their head coach opening.

That would be a great hire, imo. Get it done Billikens.

[Final4]

Dayton fans can’t stand grant right now so they’d probably love to send him on his way. IMO he’s a consistent underachiever.

Jeez, that poor man has endured more than most of us could handle. Quite frankly I’m surprised he can even lift his head off his pillow every morning and continue working. I’m pretty certain I couldn’t. But YOU think he’s been a consistent underachiever.

[Xville]

Jeez, that poor man has endured more than most of us could handle. Quite frankly I’m surprised he can even lift his head off his pillow every morning and continue working. I’m pretty certain I couldn’t. But YOU think he’s been a consistent underachiever.

I'm not talking about him in his life. He has endured plenty there, and I agree. However, I'm talking about him as a basketball coach. Yes, I think he has underachieved at Dayton, and if you speak to most Dayton fans, they will agree. Once Xavier left the conference, Dayton became the school with the most resources in the A-10 and it isn't all the close. He has 1 NCAA tourney appearance, this year. Of course, he would have had two and probably been a one seed, but two tourney appearances in 7 years is not good.

Haven't even mentioned his time at Alabama.

[Xville]

From sources I hear that Scott Drew and Dusty May both have contracts in front of them for the Louisville job. Hearing that May can't commit though until Drew gives a No.

[bleedXblue]

Drew isn't leaving Baylor. He's built that program and won a Natty. Why you would leave that for the shit program that Louisville has become?

[paulxu]

Drew isn't leaving Baylor. He's built that program and won a Natty. Why you would leave that for the shit program that Louisville has become?

$$$$ (see Saban, Nick)

[Xville]

Drew isn't leaving Baylor. He's built that program and won a Natty. Why you would leave that for the shit program that Louisville has become?

Well for one, $.

Two, it's been a mess since Pitino left, but historically you are talking about a top tenish program with unlimited resources, and a fanbase/arena that is second to none. The FBI cloud is gone, and the board/ad/president that mishandled everything are all gone.

You may be right that Drew may not leave, but Baylor is still Baylor and Louisville is still Louisville. It also gets him a bit closer to home

[bleedXblue]

$$$$ (see Saban, Nick)

true, but if you're smart and happy making 3.7M a year.......why risk it taking over a dumpster fire?

[D-West & PO-Z]

true, but if you're smart and happy making 3.7M a year.......why risk it taking over a dumpster fire?

Have you missed the decisions of nearly every college coach not named Mark Few the last 30 years?

[Xville]

All it takes is a good coach...it's really not a dumpster fire at present, it had been for sure . The team sucks, but that can easily change in one season with the resources/nil money that louisville has along with the facilities etc.

[bleedXblue]

Have you missed the decisions of nearly every college coach not named Mark Few the last 30 years?

No I haven't, but most leave their current situation to make 2X or 3X their current pay. Also, most move to improve league and program status. Big 12 is a better, deeper conference than the ACC. If UL offers $8-10M a year, then I guess he will have a tough decision to make.

[bleedXblue]

All it takes is a good coach...it's really not a dumpster fire at present, it had been for sure . The team sucks, but that can easily change in one season with the resources/nil money that louisville has along with the facilities etc.

Sort of agree, but UL has been a shit show for almost 10 years. The last few years with Pitino and all of the issues forcing them to let him go.......to present. I think the program has a major stain on it and that will impact their ability to attract their top candidates. Theres a reason why they hired Kenny Payne two years ago.

[Xville]

Sort of agree, but UL has been a shit show for almost 10 years. The last few years with Pitino and all of the issues forcing them to let him go.......to present. I think the program has a major stain on it and that will impact their ability to attract their top candidates. Theres a reason why they hired Kenny Payne two years ago.

I agree regarding the decade of yikes.

I'll just call what the hire of Payne was...a DE&I hire made by certain alumni that at the time had more power than an interim AD who was trying to get the permanent job.

I think Heird now has the power to middle finger everyone, and make the decision on his own.

With all of this said, I'd be surprised if Drew said yes, just because he doesn't strike me as someone who cares about making 8 mil instead of 4, and doesn't have the ego that a lot of coaches have that need to coach that Top 10ish program.

[Xville]

Sounds like Drew said thanks, but no thanks and an extension with other perks will be announced in the coming days. Louisville moves on to the second picks...assuming May with outside chances of Cronin, Musselman.

[muskiefan82]

They can't really think Cronin is a good choice, can they? Really?

[Xville]

They can't really think Cronin is a good choice, can they? Really?

I personally don't think he is a candidate, because his personality sucks and it won't fly here, but his anme keeps popping up. Maybe it's just him wanting to get out of LA.

[Xavgrad08]

I definitely think Mick wants out of UCLA. I don’t think Mick will handle the cross country travel of the new Big Ten well. I actually can’t wait until he loses a conference away game next year and blames it on travel in the postgame press conference.

[paulxu]

The idiot AD at LBSU is taking credit for the team making the tourney after firing the coach (who is still coaching...as he says...for free.)

AD said firing the coach motivated the team to win their conference tourney to make the dance.

What an asshole.

[X-band '01]

I wouldn't mind their president firing the AD to further motivate them.

EDIT: Never mind, they already reached the end of the line.

[Xville]

I guess Dusty May just said screw it in OT....may as well just speed up the process of going to Louisville.

[Xville]

Welp, wrong info on may… heading to Michigan. The plot thickens

[GoMuskies]

Louisville will end up with Cronin. Gross

[GoMuskies]

I really HOPE Louisville hire Kelsey at this point.

[XUGRAD80]

I really HOPE Louisville hire Kelsey at this point.

After Mack will they consider hiring another person with Xavier ties?

[GoMuskies]

After Mack will they consider hiring another person with Xavier ties?

That would be a rather silly line to draw. Particularly since Kelsey fake retired a decade ago to get away from Mack.

[Xville]

I think he’d be a fantastic fit, but he’s a tough sell to the fanbase. Had he maybe won a few games this year in the tourney, it could have happened.

Not sure where they go but it better not be Cronin. I’d go muss bus or maybe tang.

[XUGRAD80]

That would be a rather silly line to draw. Particularly since Kelsey fake retired a decade ago to get away from Mack.

Silly decisions and Louisville are not mutually exclusive.

[Section 200]

Big fan of Kelsey, but he would be a tremendous risk for Louisville to take. Cards need to hire someone with proven March success or maybe a former NBA coach.

[JTG]

Big fan of Kelsey, but he would be a tremendous risk for Louisville to take. Cards need to hire someone with proven March success or maybe a former NBA coach.

Former NBA coach equals disaster (See Mike Woodson @ IU)

[MHettel]

Former NBA coach equals disaster (See Mike Woodson @ IU)

My feelings as well. Also a lot of former NBA players seems to get HC chances in college and they generally are awful (Penny, Howard, Stack).

Frankly I don’t like UofL and how they blow it again.

[94GRAD]

Former NBA coach equals disaster (See Mike Woodson @ IU)


My feelings as well. Also a lot of former NBA players seems to get HC chances in college and they generally are awful (Penny, Howard, Stack).

Frankly I don’t like UofL and how they blow it again.

How could anyone forget Chris Mullins and Partick Ewing?

[Xuperman]

The biggest name on this thread soon.....Calipari.

[Xville]

Devries to wvu… taking his son with him.

[Xavgrad08]

Devries to wvu… taking his son with him.

I loved watching his teams at Drake. I think good hire and his son is a stud.

[bleedXblue]

Sounds like Drew said thanks, but no thanks and an extension with other perks will be announced in the coming days. Louisville moves on to the second picks...assuming May with outside chances of Cronin, Musselman.

very smart man

[Xville]

Vandy hiring Byington from JMU. Utah State's Sprinkle goes to washington.

Mack going to end up anywhere? Surprised by the Vandy move...maybe he really does end up at SLU.

[GoMuskies]

Didn't SLU already hire the Indiana State guy?

I thought that was a done deal? I was out of the country last week, so I guess I missed a lot. Louisville people are taking about Shertz now.

[JTG]

Didn't SLU already hire the Indiana State guy?

I thought that was a done deal? I was out of the country last week, so I guess I missed a lot. Louisville people are taking about Shertz now.

ISU is still playing.

[GoMuskies]

Oh yeah, that NIT thing.

[muskiefan82]

Indiana State actually gets UC next.

[D-West & PO-Z]

SLU fans getting anxious but seems Schertz to SLU is likely just waiting for ISU to finish up. I guess ya never know though.

Should Louisville wait for the UK/Cal situation to clear up?????

[X-band '01]

Vandy hiring Byington from JMU. Utah State's Sprinkle goes to washington.

Mack going to end up anywhere? Surprised by the Vandy move...maybe he really does end up at SLU.

Kyle Smith is also moving from Washington State to Stanford. Hope he enjoys the long cross country road trips in the ACC next season.

And on a related note, Rob Lanier was fired at SMU. Guess they don't think he's ACC material.

[UCGRAD4X]

Vandy hiring Byington from JMU. Utah State's Sprinkle goes to washington.

Mack going to end up anywhere? Surprised by the Vandy move...maybe he really does end up at SLU.

Has his name actually come up in any of these searches?

[Xville]

Has his name actually come up in any of these searches?

Vandy did. May have all been on one side though I dunno.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville fans are none too thrilled so far on the Kelsey idea. As pointed out uptrend, the #1 objection: isn't he Mack 2.0?

Yeah, he's certainly not that. For better or worse.

[GoMuskies]

This Louisville search has been a mess. But the current name being thrown around as maybe the top candidate is hilarious. It's "I can't even believe it" hilarious. It's none other than....Richard Pitino.

I mean, just imagine Louisville ACTUALLY going there.

[94GRAD]

This Louisville search has been a mess. But the current name being thrown around as maybe the top candidate is hilarious. It's "I can't even believe it" hilarious. It's none other than....Richard Pitino.

I mean, just imagine Louisville ACTUALLY going there.

Need XVILLE's take please

https://twitter.com/jdemling/status/1772675486612635740

[Xville]

This Louisville search has been a mess. But the current name being thrown around as maybe the top candidate is hilarious. It's "I can't even believe it" hilarious. It's none other than....Richard Pitino.

I mean, just imagine Louisville ACTUALLY going there.

This is hysterical. I can't believe either side are remotely interested....its a wtf moment for sure.

Having said that, local media has been wrong consistently about this search so who knows.

[94GRAD]

This is hysterical. I can't believe either side are remotely interested....its a wtf moment for sure.

Having said that, local media has been wrong consistently about this search so who knows.

Someone told me they heard Pitino is bringing Jamal Mashburn Jr with him.

[GoMuskies]

Bob Huggins throws his hat in the ring for Louisville.

https://x.com/rickbozich/status/1772955935499059411?s=20

[muskiefan82]

Bob Huggins throws his hat in the ring for Louisville.

https://x.com/rickbozich/status/1772955935499059411?s=20

Please let this happen. I can't think of anything more Louisville right now than going this route

[Blue Blooded-05]

Bob Huggins throws his hat in the ring for Louisville.

https://x.com/rickbozich/status/1772955935499059411?s=20

Remains to be seen whether he can turn Louisville’s program around. However, I think we can all agree he’ll have no problem turning a bottle of Kentucky bourbon around.

[GoMuskies]

Yesterday was the white hot Richard Pitino cycle at Louisville, and it now seems that's not going to happen. I would not be surprised at all if Pat Kelsey goes to sleep tonight as the new head coach at Louisville.

[Xville]

As of now it’s either him or schertz. Of course, things could change in five minutes.

I feel sorry for the new coach already. There were a whole lot of idiots pining for pitino.

If it’s me, I’m hiring schertz—-I think the guy can really really coach. Not that Kelsey can’t but from what I have seen, schertz is better

[Xville]

Kelsey it is!!!

Feel bad for him because people are going to hate him until he starts winning and he better win immediately.

[GoMuskies]

I snagged Kelsey at +900 for $25 yesterday to be the new coach. So this is like a crossover thread now!

[Xville]

I snagged Kelsey at +900 for $25 yesterday to be the new coach. So this is like a crossover thread now!

Damn! Nice hit!

[xubrew]

The best account to follow for coaching changes and other inside scoops is, without question, Simon Charles....

https://twitter.com/S_CharlesNFL/status/1773019250392764915

[Xville]

Some local media already whining about Kelsey because of stepping down in 2011, and ultimately not taking the Umass job.

[94GRAD]

The best account to follow for coaching changes and other inside scoops is, without question, Simon Charles....

https://twitter.com/S_CharlesNFL/status/1773019250392764915

He's no Markus Walters

[bleedXblue]

Cooley stepping down at Georgetown? LOL

Looks like I may have taken the bait.....

[drudy23]

Kelsey it is!!!

Feel bad for him because people are going to hate him until he starts winning and he better win immediately.

Almost impossible for any coach to win immediately there. It's a mess.

But, you are paid hansomely, so there's that. If he can resurrect it, he will write his ticket.

[bleedXblue]

I said the program and job are a mess and no good coach with a good gig is going there.....and that's exactly what happened.

Good for Kelsey. Hopefully he has a handsome buyout if in 2 years those morons decide to can him.

[Xville]

]I said the program and job are a mess and no good coach with a good gig is going there.....and that's exactly what happened[/B].

Good for Kelsey. Hopefully he has a handsome buyout if in 2 years those morons decide to can him.

Kind of. For one, Kelsey is a good coach. Secondly though, Heird the ad, was adamant that they were not going to hire someone with any baggage whatsoever. They could have had Musselman, Wade, Beard etc but they were never targets. If you think about it, there isn't much out there that don't have some baggage along the way. There's Scott Drew at that level, and that's about it.

[Xville]

Almost impossible for any coach to win immediately there. It's a mess.

But, you are paid hansomely, so there's that. If he can resurrect it, he will write his ticket.

If this was 5-6 years ago, I'd agree with you. However, in this day and age of NIL and the transfer portal, it shouldn't take long. Louisville has deep deep pockets and a kind of insane but extremely passionate fanbase that will get behind a coach if he can win at a decent clip, and the team shows improvement.

[xubrew]

Cooley stepping down at Georgetown? LOL

Looks like I may have taken the bait.....

The best parody account on all of social media is Nick Adams. Out of the 7 day week, something he does or says and the reaction that follows is probably the funniest thing I see all day at least 4 out of 7 days.

Three Year Letterman is great too.

All Simon Charles does is post crazy stories without any sort of corroboration at all, and then sits back and watches the reactions. It looks good enough and seems plausible enough to fool enough people to make it funny. It's one of the more entertaining sports parody accounts.

[GIMMFD]

If this was 5-6 years ago, I'd agree with you. However, in this day and age of NIL and the transfer portal, it shouldn't take long. Louisville has deep deep pockets and a kind of insane but extremely passionate fanbase that will get behind a coach if he can win at a decent clip, and the team shows improvement.

Yeah, I'm with you on that, I mean Louisville is a tier below true blue blood, but there's plenty of resources at a coach's disposal there. The good thing for Kelsey here is that Payne was so damn awful that anything he does in "Season 0" will be a major improvement. I think he has the ability to do well at Louisville, how well? Who knows, but it won't be for a lack of courses or anything like that. There's still appeal to play at Louisville and have home games in the Yum Center in my opinion.

[94GRAD]

The best parody account on all of social media is Nick Adams. Out of the 7 day week, something he does or says and the reaction that follows is probably the funniest thing I see all day at least 4 out of 7 days.

Three Year Letterman is great too.

All Simon Charles does is post crazy stories without any sort of corroboration at all, and then sits back and watches the reactions. It looks good enough and seems plausible enough to fool enough people to make it funny. It's one of the more entertaining sports parody accounts.

Coach is my favorite follow on Twitter.com!

[xubrew]

Coach is my favorite follow on Twitter.com!

Youth football coaching legend! Not some random clown!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Coach is my favorite follow on Twitter.com!

Easily the best follow on Twitter.

[XUGRAD80]

Wow, I take the misses to the eye doctor, am gone about 2-3 hours, and all kinds of crazy breaks out! Kelsey to Loserville and X picks up a guard. Reid enters the portal. What’s next?!

[D-West & PO-Z]

If Schertz ends up at SLU does that mean he said no to Louisville in favor of SLU? That would certainly be a shot at Louisville as a program currently. SLU is the highest paying A10 job but it doesn't (obviously) have Louisville money.

[GoMuskies]

May just mean Louisville didn't want him. Or want to wait for him.

[UCGRAD4X]

Wow, I take the misses to the eye doctor, am gone about 2-3 hours, and all kinds of crazy breaks out! Kelsey to Loserville and X picks up a guard. Reid enters the portal. What’s next?!

cats living with dogs

[Xville]

If Schertz ends up at SLU does that mean he said no to Louisville in favor of SLU? That would certainly be a shot at Louisville as a program currently. SLU is the highest paying A10 job but it doesn't (obviously) have Louisville money.

This is from Twitter so take it with a grain of salt, but they said schertz signed a mou with slu believing that May was taking the Louisville job. Supposedly it would take some money to get out of it, and if that part isn’t true maybe schertz is an honorable person and wanted to keep his commitment. Dunno if that’s true or not, but it sounds plausible.

[X-band '01]

I snagged Kelsey at +900 for $25 yesterday to be the new coach. So this is like a crossover thread now!

Now the real fun starts when he goes to his introductory presser - will he or won't he change his mind?

[D-West & PO-Z]

May just mean Louisville didn't want him. Or want to wait for him.

I guess that is possible. Schertz seems to be the hotter name but when you look at it, it isn't like he is more accomplished than Kelsey. Neither have an NCAA tourney win, and Schertz doesn't even have a tourney appearance. He is only in his 3rd year in div 1 tho after killing it in div II.

[chico]

Huggins just can't help but keep losing to Muskies.

[Xville]

When Mack left, was Kelsey really the other option besides Steele? If so, how in the absolute hell could you meet with Kelsey and Steele, and believe Steele was the pick?

[D-West & PO-Z]

When Mack left, was Kelsey really the other option besides Steele? If so, how in the absolute hell could you meet with Kelsey and Steele, and believe Steele was the pick?

My guess is Christopher didn't want to be the AD who deviated from the Xavier way of promoting the top assistant successfully? Probably less risk in having the top assistant not work out (one who was here a long time) than to go outside and have that hire not work out? Just a guess.

[MHettel]

Andy Einfield flirting with SMU?

Going from USC to SMU. hes been at USC for 11 years. Hows his wife holding up?

Anyway, both those jobs kinds suck, but SMU is way worse. Tons of money though. Big 10 is brutal and the ACC is dicey. Is this just a move to stay ahead of the hangman?

[xubrew]

Andy Einfield flirting with SMU?

Going from USC to SMU. hes been at USC for 11 years. Hows his wife holding up?

Anyway, both those jobs kinds suck, but SMU is way worse. Tons of money though. Big 10 is brutal and the ACC is dicey. Is this just a move to stay ahead of the hangman?

Yes.

SMU is interesting. As an institution they have a ton of money, but haven't spent as much of it on athletics as other power programs have. it's in Dallas, and they have a substantial number of millionaire alumni who are in or around the DFW area. I think they've looked at TCU and seen their basketball team make the Sweet Sixteen and crack the top 25, and their football team make the CFP, and have decided they now want to be like that. So, that's what they're doing. They're pumping a ton of money into athletics now.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yes.

SMU is interesting. As an institution they have a ton of money, but haven't spent as much of it on athletics as other power programs have. it's in Dallas, and they have a substantial number of millionaire alumni who are in or around the DFW area. I think they've looked at TCU and seen their basketball team make the Sweet Sixteen and crack the top 25, and their football team make the CFP, and have decided they now want to be like that. So, that's what they're doing. They're pumping a ton of money into athletics now.

Maybe they should go after someone better than Andy Enfield!

[GoMuskies]

I think SMU has the potential to be a better job than USC on the basketball side. Enfield has had a bit of success there, but USC is typically a mess in the shadow of UCLA.

[Xville]

Watching Kelsey’s press conference. Holy crap that guy gets it.

[X-band '01]

Yes.

SMU is interesting. As an institution they have a ton of money, but haven't spent as much of it on athletics as other power programs have. it's in Dallas, and they have a substantial number of millionaire alumni who are in or around the DFW area. I think they've looked at TCU and seen their basketball team make the Sweet Sixteen and crack the top 25, and their football team make the CFP, and have decided they now want to be like that. So, that's what they're doing. They're pumping a ton of money into athletics now.

Legally, anyway.

[XUGRAD80]

Watching Kelsey’s press conference. Holy crap that guy gets it.

I was never a fan of his because his old man is a real piece of work, but after hearing him a year or so ago on a radio program I became a fan.

[UCGRAD4X]

Watching Kelsey’s press conference. Holy crap that guy gets it.

Weird that I might to have to sort of, maybe, potentially, kind of, think about rooting for Louisville.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I don't think Kelsey gets a job like OSU or Michigan yet - I was thinking more along the lines of a Vanderbilt.

Most of these mid-majors are still a huge jump to a major conference. Schools like Michigan and OSU are going to be under tremendous pressure to win right away. It will be hard for an AD to pull the trigger on a mid-major guy under that pressure.

Kelsey will probably get there eventually, but he needs success at somewhere in-between first.

Well you were right about not getting a job like OSU or Michigan, he got an even bigger job!

I thought Kelsey could get a bigger power job but am surprised he got as big as Louisville. Hope he does well.

[Xville]

Well you were right about not getting a job like OSU or Michigan, he got an even bigger job!

I thought Kelsey could get a bigger power job but am surprised he got as big as Louisville. Hope he does well.

After watching that press conference I was ready to run thru a wall. Should have hired him after Mack, hiring Steele over that guy is the dumbest thing Christopher has ever done, and he’s done a lot of stupid with coaching decisions.

Of course I’m thrilled we got miller but man I think Kelsey is going to be putting up banners in the yum center.

[Section 200]

After watching that press conference I was ready to run thru a wall. Should have hired him after Mack, hiring Steele over that guy is the dumbest thing Christopher has ever done, and he’s done a lot of stupid with coaching decisions.

Of course I’m thrilled we got miller but man I think Kelsey is going to be putting up banners in the yum center.

I root for Kelsey as an alum and GCL guy but what about his resume leads you to believe he will hang banners? I’m shocked Louisville hired him. Hope it works out.

[Xville]

I root for Kelsey as an alum and GCL guy but what about his resume leads you to believe he will hang banners? I’m shocked Louisville hired him. Hope it works out.

Because he’s won everywhere he’s been and plays a very exciting brand of basketball offensively and with in your face d. Now he’s going to get the resources in order to get the players he needs to get to that next level and as I said with an appealing brand of bb that the elite players love.

Yeah he’s not been at a big time program and that makes some people crumble, he doesn’t strike me as the type that will.