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Xuperman
09-20-2023, 07:48 AM
Just read where Coach Prime's son Sheduer, is reportedly raking in $5.1 million in NIL cash. Just bought himself a Rolls Royce.

Apparently, Bronny James is the highest paid college athlete making somewhere north of that figure.

GoMuskies
09-20-2023, 08:16 AM
The two who need it least.

We need to get more cash to Livvy!

Xuperman
09-20-2023, 08:56 AM
For some perspective, Brock Purdy's rookie deal was $3.8 for FOUR YEARS.

JTG
09-20-2023, 12:31 PM
Just read where Coach Prime's son Sheduer, is reportedly raking in $5.1 million in NIL cash. Just bought himself a Rolls Royce.

Apparently, Bronny James is the highest paid college athlete making somewhere north of that figure.

Just another reason to despise them and their fathers. Although, at least LeBron doesn't look, act and talk like a movie pimp, ala Prime.

Xuperman
09-20-2023, 12:41 PM
Does anyone have any info on NIL payments to Xavier athletes? I have not heard a thing. I wonder if Coach Miller even gets much use out of the NIL angle in his recruitment strategy.

xu82
09-20-2023, 01:35 PM
Was it just last year that the Bama QB made more than the Eagles QB? That even SOUNDS crazy!

STL_XUfan
09-20-2023, 01:44 PM
Was it just last year that the Bama QB made more than the Eagles QB? That even SOUNDS crazy!
Its a bubble. Eventually people will discover there is not a good return on their investment and the numbers will come down to reality.

Then again, if I had F-U money I would certainly funnel some of that to make sure we had a team capable of beating UC by 400. Maybe someday.

MHettel
09-20-2023, 01:58 PM
Its a bubble. Eventually people will discover there is not a good return on their investment and the numbers will come down to reality.

Then again, if I had F-U money I would certainly funnel some of that to make sure we had a team capable of beating UC by 400. Maybe someday.

yeah, you assume that people consider this an "investment." I'd buy us the best team possible every year if I had a "B" in my bank account.

STL_XUfan
09-20-2023, 02:03 PM
yeah, you assume that people consider this an "investment." I'd buy us the best team possible every year if I had a "B" in my bank account.

Hence the reason why neither of us will ever have a B in our bank account.

xavierj
09-20-2023, 02:31 PM
Does anyone have any info on NIL payments to Xavier athletes? I have not heard a thing. I wonder if Coach Miller even gets much use out of the NIL angle in his recruitment strategy.

I have heard Xavier is doing fine and expect to it to get better but you won’t hear anything about it and Sean doesn’t want it publicized. Xavier is doing well enough that they are able to put a player on NIL if needed to get be able to add another player via scholarship. Sean also doesn’t want it to be the main reason a guy he recruits wants to come to Xavier. If a guy is only concerned about money they will move on from what I heard. They will take care of the guys committed to the program.

nickgyp
09-21-2023, 04:17 PM
Just another reason to despise them and their fathers. Although, at least LeBron doesn't look, act and talk like a movie pimp, ala Prime.

I wonder what these top-paid NIL players will say when they are reminded to attend class to stay eligible. Maybe on-line classes don’t take attendance but “Sure, coach!” seems as good response as any.

GIMMFD
09-22-2023, 05:25 PM
Think it was Ohio State's AD that was saying football recruits are asking for $5k to just COME VISIT now, NIL is ridiculously lucrative. I mean I get it, these boosters that are worth $300 million or so throwing down $1 million is literally the equivalence of $900 for someone making $300k, which makes it seem much more palatable. I'd donate $900 to NIL (if I had the means at the moment) if it meant we'd pull in better recruits... it's just that some of these damn schools have a shit load of people worth $300 million doing so, think about places like Texas A&M, just pure oil money in Texas and football crazed.. the numbers are absolutely ridiculous and the lack of regulation makes it a wild wild west scenario, but honestly it doesn't shock me too much.

noteggs
09-22-2023, 08:00 PM
Speaking of ridiculous, this is ridiculously crazy. Not on you of course. A recruit is asking 5k just to visit? They already get a free trip with accommodations.

Based off the acronym NIL, how is this even possible? Well I guess they do post that stupid picture of them in a uniform. Hope it’s worth 5k now. Unfortunately this is way way too far gone!

MHettel
09-22-2023, 08:32 PM
Some people have said that NIL won’t have any impact and that we should just relax and wait to see.

I’m not one of those some people. But there are some close by….

Xville
09-22-2023, 09:38 PM
They may be asking for it, doesn’t mean they are getting it. All NIL and the transfer portal seems to be doing is leveling the playing field in college football. That’s a good thing and I’m here for it. The past 20 years has been awful for parity. Take a look at college football today. You can legitimately make a case for about twenty teams to win the whole thing this year. You haven’t been able to say that at even this early point in the season for decades.

Btw I’d need 5k to visit that shit school too.

GIMMFD
09-23-2023, 01:54 PM
Speaking of ridiculous, this is ridiculously crazy. Not on you of course. A recruit is asking 5k just to visit? They already get a free trip with accommodations.

Based off the acronym NIL, how is this even possible? Well I guess they do post that stupid picture of them in a uniform. Hope it’s worth 5k now. Unfortunately this is way way too far gone!


They may be asking for it, doesn’t mean they are getting it. All NIL and the transfer portal seems to be doing is leveling the playing field in college football. That’s a good thing and I’m here for it. The past 20 years has been awful for parity. Take a look at college football today. You can legitimately make a case for about twenty teams to win the whole thing this year. You haven’t been able to say that at even this early point in the season for decades.

Btw I’d need 5k to visit that shit school too.

I mean yeah of course not everybody is getting it, but a high 5* recruit that has offers from Texas A&M, Alabama, etc. is definitely gonna get the $5k to visit, because there's a significant chance that one of these schools WILL give it to him. I agree though, the official visit everything is basically taken care of paid for, and you get 5 of those to choose wisely, unofficial is a bit different since its on your own dime, so maybe some recruits game the system that way? I'm not sure, NIL is kind of a mess.

Do agree that it's good for parity though, I'm interested to see if the NCAA's transfer rule tightening will have more of an effect, UNC is pretty pissed off about the Tez situation, but the NCAA has to make a stand to not look spineless. I much rather have it like it is now, actually makes the idea of expanding the play-offs viable opposed to the same old teams. Genuinely I have zero idea who the best team or best two teams in college football is this year and I can't remember the last time where I questioned it. Totally agree with needing $5k to visit OSU as well though, screw that place lol.

MHettel
09-23-2023, 02:15 PM
I mean yeah of course not everybody is getting it, but a high 5* recruit that has offers from Texas A&M, Alabama, etc. is definitely gonna get the $5k to visit, because there's a significant chance that one of these schools WILL give it to him. I agree though, the official visit everything is basically taken care of paid for, and you get 5 of those to choose wisely, unofficial is a bit different since its on your own dime, so maybe some recruits game the system that way? I'm not sure, NIL is kind of a mess.

Do agree that it's good for parity though, I'm interested to see if the NCAA's transfer rule tightening will have more of an effect, UNC is pretty pissed off about the Tez situation, but the NCAA has to make a stand to not look spineless. I much rather have it like it is now, actually makes the idea of expanding the play-offs viable opposed to the same old teams. Genuinely I have zero idea who the best team or best two teams in college football is this year and I can't remember the last time where I questioned it. Totally agree with needing $5k to visit OSU as well though, screw that place lol.

If I’m a 5 star recruit, I’m telling Clemson, bama, FSU, Texas, USC, LSU, Georgia, OSU, and Michigan that I’ll visit for $5k. And, I’ll only commit to a school I’ve visited.

So now, you aren’t negotiating with each school to get 5k, you have them competing to pay you 5k

UCGRAD4X
09-23-2023, 04:46 PM
If I’m a 5 star recruit, I’m telling Clemson, bama, FSU, Texas, USC, LSU, Georgia, OSU, and Michigan that I’ll visit for $5k. And, I’ll only commit to a school I’ve visited.

So now, you aren’t negotiating with each school to get 5k, you have them competing to pay you 5k

If you are a 5* - 5K is chump change.

noteggs
09-23-2023, 07:20 PM
If you are a 5* - 5K is chump change.

I could be wrong, but didn’t the NCAA get rid of the maximum number OV’s a recruit can take?

Edit: meant to respond in general and not specifically to quote.

bjf123
09-23-2023, 10:18 PM
If NIL money is to pay the players for the use of their name, image, or likeness, how does getting paid $5K just to visit a school involve using their NIL? Would the school publishing a story about the visit qualify?


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GIMMFD
09-24-2023, 12:12 AM
If you are a 5* - 5K is chump change.

Of course it is, you'll be making a million easy, but why not increase profits when you can?? You know you're gonna make more, but screw it , why not get a Louis Vuitton bag out of it while you're at it. At 17 years old, I'd definitely be in that line of thinking I'd assume.


I could be wrong, but didn’t the NCAA get rid of the maximum number OV’s a recruit can take?

Edit: meant to respond in general and not specifically to quote.

https://www.ncsasports.org/ncaa-eligibility-center/recruiting-rules/official-visits

You sir, are correct according to this link, interestingly enough in that link is this paragraph: "Some schools will be able to finance your whole trip, paying for transportation, meals, lodging and tickets to a home game. But this is the maximum of what colleges can provide for their recruits. Some programs simply may not have the money to pay for your entire visit, opting to finance just a small portion of your visit. An official visit can also include having an on-campus lunch or dinner that is purchased by the coach. It doesn’t have to last the full 48 hours—again, that’s the maximum amount but not a requirement."


If NIL money is to pay the players for the use of their name, image, or likeness, how does getting paid $5K just to visit a school involve using their NIL? Would the school publishing a story about the visit qualify?


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Honestly not sure, here's the link about the Ohio State AD talking about it: https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/college/big-10/2023/09/20/gene-smith-recruits-5k-visit-campuses-ohio-state-nil-era/70910413007/; really he's saying federal legislation is needed to the House Committee on Small Business in a written testimony. I also have zero idea how this counts as name, image, likeness, unless I guess it's when recruits dress up in the uniform and take pictures, but I find that more for them as they're the ones to post it on social media?? I do agree with the Ohio State AD that there needs to be a more structured sense of guidelines, as things like this that we're talking about make absolutely zero sense to me.

basket
09-24-2023, 08:31 AM
Just curious to all of you. Is there a difference between a coach getting all of this when he goes to another school rather than a player? I'll hang up now and listen to your response!

MHettel
09-24-2023, 10:32 AM
Just curious to all of you. Is there a difference between a coach getting all of this when he goes to another school rather than a player? I'll hang up now and listen to your response!

Yes. The coach is employed as a professional.

GIMMFD
09-24-2023, 12:31 PM
Just curious to all of you. Is there a difference between a coach getting all of this when he goes to another school rather than a player? I'll hang up now and listen to your response!

I'm not against college guys getting paid at all, get your money when you can, who knows when injury/freak accident can happen, and athletes generate a lot of revenue for schools, I understand both sides of the coin, but I'm perfectly okay with it. I just think it should be regulated or at least resemble SOME sort of structure that way it's a bit more level of a playing field, I very much do not blame any 5* recruit that is pocketing $5k per visit, I'd do the same exact thing in that situation.