Did Huggins just say F@g on air twice?

[OTRMUSKIE]

Huggins was just on with Willie and it appeared that said F@G twice referring to Xavier students throwing penises on the court. Did anybody else hear it?

[OTRMUSKIE]

https://twitter.com/stevenorristv/status/1655633826687623170?s=46&t=u8kByl9--Ihv4HulV1FRRA

[Masterofreality]

Dude fell off the wagon again. Did he puke on air too?
At least you can’t wreck a radio… or……

[MHettel]

How awesome would it be if THIS was the end for that fat slob. All those years of hatred and disgust towards us, and we end up getting the last laugh. Cant WAIT to see how this gets spun.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Just an absolute trash human.

[Muskie]

In today's society this may be the end for Huggins. If anyone at WVU is looking to get rid of him (and possibly not pay the remaining balance on a contract) this looks like it could be an opportunity.

[xeus]

I am having a hard time imagining the state of West Virginia and the people in power there getting too worked up about a gay slur, much less a Catholic slur.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I am having a hard time imagining the state of West Virginia and the people in power there getting too worked up about a gay slur, much less a Catholic slur.

Former OSU, Vandy, Brown, and Colorado President Gordon Gee is the President of WVU. No idea how he will feel but college presidents aren't usually local to the area.

[noteggs]

Not a big fan of Thom Brenneman, but pretty much ruined his career using the word.

[xeus]

Former OSU, Vandy, Brown, and Colorado President Gordon Gee is the President of WVU. No idea how he will feel but college presidents aren't usually local to the area.

Their boards of governors usually are very much local and very much political appointees. Guess we'll see. Just saying, this isn't California we're talking about here, so it is entirely possible Fat Bob gets a pass.

[atljar]

♪ So long! Farewell!♫

OR

♫ Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye ♫

????

[D-West & PO-Z]

Their boards of governors usually are very much local and very much political appointees. Guess we'll see. Just saying, this isn't California we're talking about here, so it is entirely possible Fat Bob gets a pass.

Yeah, def could be.

Wish we had audio, I did not hear it.

[kane79]

only real traction i see on twitter is among XU fans. need to get this audio in the hands of ESPN or something

[kane79]

someone did point out on twitter this is the only 700 WLW show not uploaded to iheartradio yet

[D-West & PO-Z]

someone did point out on twitter this is the only 700 WLW show not uploaded to iheartradio yet

Even when they upload, they aren't going to include that.

[Caveat]

The longer this goes with no audio, the more skeptical I get.

Huggins is trending on twitter now, though -- so I assume we'll get answer one way or the other shortly.

[kane79]

its just funny this is the one show from today they haven't uploaded at all

[94GRAD]

https://twitter.com/RickBroering/status/1655671896552120322

[xudash]

https://twitter.com/RickBroering/status/1655671896552120322

Kind of jaw dropping at the 1:18 to 1:20 mark - says it plain as day.

My friends, they say if you live long enough, you'll see about everything.

Well, on the very day Xavier announces a new medical school, this pops into the media and now apparently is exploding there.

Interesting way to start the week.

[sirthought]

I don't see this as any different than most of the trash talking I'm hearing guys say in games, but he has to know that he's supposed to be the adult in the room when you have his job. If the WVU administration tries to shrug this off things could get ugly with sponsorships, supporters, etc.

[xu82]

I don't see this as any different than most of the trash talking I'm hearing guys say in games, but he has to know that he's supposed to be the adult in the room when you have his job. If the WVU administration tries to shrug this off things could get ugly with sponsorships, supporters, etc.

I’d expect that just about anywhere. I do have to wonder if West Virginia is keeping up in 2023. Have they gotten the news yet?

[X-band '01]

Another reason that WLW isn't uploading the clip/show is that Bill Cunningham (KKKunningham?) also gets off a "Transgender Night" blast before Huggins went off. Wouldn't surprise me if he has a few extra "vacation" days in the near future.

As for Huggins, it's obviously an immature remark. But secretly, the WVU brass are probably happy to now have an excuse to nudge him out and hire someone a little younger so they can rebuild their program up. Record-wise, there are a number of places where he'd have been on the hot seat if a)his name wasn't Bob Huggins and b) he wasn't an alum.

[XUBison]

I am having a hard time imagining the state of West Virginia and the people in power there getting too worked up about a gay slur, much less a Catholic slur.

There will be national pressure on this. It will be tough for the locals to dig in their hillbilly heels.

[JTG]

I am having a hard time imagining the state of West Virginia and the people in power there getting too worked up about a gay slur, much less a Catholic slur.
Catholics are probably the only unprotected class of minority in America. It's pretty much always open season to take shots at Catholics. Now the gay part may be more problematic for ole Bob.

[xudash]

I’d expect that just about anywhere. I do have to wonder if West Virginia is keeping up in 2023. Have they gotten the news yet?

You just asked if they - MORGANTOWN, WVA - have gotten the news yet. Silly boy!

It's actually kind of pretty up in that neck of the woods, but they have been known to party a little hard there. It will truly be interesting to see how they handle this.

Isn't Gordon Gee the Prez there now? I'm not sure he can let this gaffe slide.

[paulxu]

Damage control:

https://twitter.com/WVUhoops/status/1655684254469091329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1655685296468508672%7Ctwgr% 5Ec50795ff1d0539eff0a8ebaf022016167e7b8ee8%7Ctwcon %5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.basketballforum.com%2Fth reads%2Fmiscellaneous-stuf.682739%2Fpage-77

[xudash]

Another reason that WLW isn't uploading the clip/show is that Bill Cunningham (KKKunningham?) also gets off a "Transgender Night" blast before Huggins went off. Wouldn't surprise me if he has a few extra "vacation" days in the near future.

As for Huggins, it's obviously an immature remark. But secretly, the WVU brass are probably happy to now have an excuse to nudge him out and hire someone a little younger so they can rebuild their program up. Record-wise, there are a number of places where he'd have been on the hot seat if a)his name wasn't Bob Huggins and b) he wasn't an alum.

Good point. I doubt he was trying to bait him. Probably just wanted to stalk a little Crosstown Rivalry chatter with him, but he led into it in a not so advisable manner.

[A Fan]

Not a big fan of Thom Brenneman, but pretty much ruined his career using the word.

If you like irony you will look at the article detailing Thom Brennaman’s trip to Morgantown at Huggin’s request to speak about “ accountability” for saying inappropriate things.

Bob Huggins thanks ex-Reds broadcaster Thom Brennaman for addressing WVU basketball team

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2020/11/21/bob-huggins-thanks-former-cincinnati-reds-broadcaster-thom-brennaman-addressing-wvu-basketball-team/6377218002/

[MHettel]

I really like the apology by Bob. Notice how he says that he'll accept any punishment that comes his way. Or said differently, he ain't resigning over this.

I really hope this is the end of Bob. And I REALLY hope that XU issues a statement calling his comments hurtful, inflammatory, tasteless, classless and whatever else we can think of. But dont accept his apology and DONT condone his actions. The ONLY way fat Bob keeps his job is if we shrug it off and forgive him.

And by the way, if we DID forgive him, then I guess we know who owns the high road....

[xudash]

I really like the apology by Bob. Notice how he says that he'll accept any punishment that comes his way. Or said differently, he ain't resigning over this.

I really hope this is the end of Bob. And I REALLY hope that XU issues a statement calling his comments hurtful, inflammatory, tasteless, classless and whatever else we can think of. But dont accept his apology and DONT condone his actions. The ONLY way fat Bob keeps his job is if we shrug it off and forgive him.

And by the way, if we DID forgive him, then I guess we know who owns the high road....

Some Xavier fan ran a ChatGBT analysis and posted it in a WVU twitter feed, given that Hugg's posted apology scored something like a 94% for being AI generated.

Morgantown going through the motions?

[Jumpin_Jamal_Forever]

The only thing worse than unrequited love is unrequited hate. I love that he said it and commend him for disliking us as much as we dislike him. But once you say it, don't apologize. You said it, now own it. Let the hand wringers tie themselves in knots over it. But don't back down.

[bjf123]

I’m no fan of Huggs, but I also don’t think people should lose jobs over saying stupid things live on the air. He’s apologized. That’s good enough for me. It should have been good enough for Thom Brennaman, too. You said it. Own it. Apologize for it. Move on.

I’m confused how it even made it on the air. WLW uses a 7 second delay and will bleep callers and guests who say things they shouldn’t.


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[MHettel]

I’m no fan of Huggs, but I also don’t think people should lose jobs over saying stupid things live on the air. He’s apologized. That’s good enough for me. It should have been good enough for Thom Brennaman, too. You said it. Own it. Apologize for it. Move on.

I’m confused how it even made it on the air. WLW uses a 7 second delay and will bleep callers and guests who say things they shouldn’t.


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I KINDA agree. Kinda.

I think if someone did something 10 years ago that would have been “funny” but is now offensive, then I feel like maybe they shouldn’t get skewered.

Or if an otherwise “good” person just has that one moment they just screwed up, then I’m in for second chances.

But fat Bob is a scumbag. A disrespectful prick. He’s used all of his chances. He’s scum. No more chances for this turd. He was almost speaking as if he wasn’t being recorded….which says a lot.

[X-band '01]

On the other hand, this board would have already melted down if Mick Cronin said something like that under the influence.

[noteggs]

I’m no fan of Huggs, but I also don’t think people should lose jobs over saying stupid things live on the air. He’s apologized. That’s good enough for me. It should have been good enough for Thom Brennaman, too. You said it. Own it. Apologize for it. Move on.

I’m confused how it even made it on the air. WLW uses a 7 second delay and will bleep callers and guests who say things they shouldn’t.


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As much as I completely agree, as a country we are not there. Unfortunately the protected class always gets their way. And I’m not talking about the Catholics. Apologies be damned.

Any more comments, I’ll take it to the politics thread…

[xubrew]

I don’t think Xavier should say anything. They don’t have to. They’ve already won. Perhaps I’d feel differently if I had more confidence in their ability to publicly respond to things like this, but I don’t. In fact I think there’s a better chance of Xavier releasing a statement that is tone-deaf enough that it somehow ends up making them look bad and Bob look not so bad than I do in them saying something that actually helps.

“We don’t listen to the show, and while we never like to see or hear slanderous things said about the LGBTQ community, we also don’t have time to worry about what’s said by people who have no ties to us on a show we don’t listen to.” Something like that would be fine. But they don’t even need to say that. They don’t need to say or do anything.

[JTG]

I don’t think Xavier should say anything. They don’t have to. They’ve already won. Perhaps I’d feel differently if I had more confidence in their ability to publicly respond to things like this, but I don’t. In fact I think there’s a better chance of Xavier releasing a statement that is tone-deaf enough that it somehow ends up making them look bad and Bob look not so bad than I do in them saying something that actually helps.

“We don’t listen to the show, and while we never like to see or hear slanderous things said about the LGBTQ community, we also don’t have time to worry about what’s said by people who have no ties to us on a show we don’t listen to.” Something like that would be fine. But they don’t even need to say that. They don’t need to say or do anything.

I agree, no need for Xavier to say anything. Stay above the fray. On the other hand, they could sue Huggs for $20million and pay for the football stadium.

[XUBison]

I KINDA agree. Kinda.

I think if someone did something 10 years ago that would have been “funny” but is now offensive, then I feel like maybe they shouldn’t get skewered.

Or if an otherwise “good” person just has that one moment they just screwed up, then I’m in for second chances.

But fat Bob is a scumbag. A disrespectful prick. He’s used all of his chances. He’s scum. No more chances for this turd. He was almost speaking as if he wasn’t being recorded….which says a lot.

It was a nasty slur he used, twice. It was nasty 10 years ago too.

[paulxu]

Do they do Reflection Sessions at WVU?

[drudy23]

Huggy back on the path of self destruction.

[X-band '01]

Do they do Reflection Sessions at WVU?

I thought his tenure at West Virginia was a reflection session.

[xudash]

I agree, no need for Xavier to say anything. Stay above the fray. On the other hand, they could sue Huggs for $20million and pay for the football stadium.

Very strong idea.

[xeus]

Xavier doesn’t need to say anything. It’s kinda like res ipsa loquitor.

[Roach]

I don’t think Xavier should say anything. They don’t have to. They’ve already won.

100%, I could not agree more. However, while I agree that a tone deaf response is a legitimate risk, I am at least as worried about the optics in general, even if the statement isn’t tone deaf. In every respect that matters, Bob Huggins is irrelevant to Xavier basketball. He has been gone for 16 years and it shouldn’t move the needle. Taking umbrage publicly or even relaying acceptance of his apology could make Xavier look small time. Xavier does not need Bob Huggins’ apology. Let him be the only one who’s still stewing over losses to a rival 16+ years ago. He’s the only one on either side of the rivalry spewing venom all these years later. My suggestion to everyone - laugh at the uncivilized drunkard, roll your eyes, and demonstrate the class that he so clearly lacks.

That said, it takes a special kind of bigot to express homophobia and religious discrimination in one short phrase.

[sirthought]

I heard the local Catholic HS threw him in the JUG.

[XUGRAD80]

Xavier shouldn’t react in any way. Just ignore it.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Damage control:

https://twitter.com/WVUhoops/status/1655684254469091329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1655685296468508672%7Ctwgr% 5Ec50795ff1d0539eff0a8ebaf022016167e7b8ee8%7Ctwcon %5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.basketballforum.com%2Fth reads%2Fmiscellaneous-stuf.682739%2Fpage-77

Not only did Thuggins not write that, he probably hasn't even seen it. He is still passed out behind the wheel somewhere after his afternoon bender, oblivious to all the commotion going on!

[D-West & PO-Z]

The only thing worse than unrequited love is unrequited hate. I love that he said it and commend him for disliking us as much as we dislike him. But once you say it, don't apologize. You said it, now own it. Let the hand wringers tie themselves in knots over it. But don't back down.

Ha, what a bad take. He obviously wants to keep his job my man.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I thought his tenure at West Virginia was a reflection session.

Ha, good point!

[XUGRAD80]

Personally as a Xavier grad and someone that is raised Catholic, I’m not offended. I thought that it was just Bob being Bob and just him talking some smack. However, I’m sure that some people are. I am sure that some people that he disrespected are feeling very offended. I don’t see any way that this won’t result in either him being fired or him resigning. Either way I’m afraid that it’s the end of the line for Huggs.

[XU 23]

I heard the local Catholic HS threw him in the JUG.

He probably gets 5 and 5 for this one.

[STL_XUfan]

I really don’t care how this all ends with Huggins. But today was one of those great days on social media where everyone (Xavier nation) was in on the joke and pulling in the same direction for nothing more than the memes. Man was hoisted on his own petard and we all got to roast s’mores around the campfire it created.

[xudash]

I really don’t care how this all ends with Huggins. But today was one of those great days on social media where everyone (Xavier nation) was in on the joke and pulling in the same direction for nothing more than the memes. Man was hoisted on his own petard and we all got to roast s’mores around the campfire it created.

I think the asshat did it to take away some of the media momentum for our medical school announcement. Just kidding.

It has been an interesting day on Victory Parkway, to say the least.

[Muskie in dayton]

His only saving grace is that he also disparaged Catholics. In our clown world, that totally off-sets making a disparaging remark against gays. It’s like he said nothing at all.

[XUGRAD80]

His only saving grace is that he also disparaged Catholics. In our clown world, that totally off-sets making a disparaging remark against gays. It’s like he said nothing at all.

If he had just say “that’s just them being Catholics”, would there be near the uproar? Probably not IMO. In our world today it’s more than OK to disparage western religions, in fact it’s often encouraged. But say something about any minority and you’re going to be canceled in every way possible. This is somewhat a backlash for the major religions and ethnic groups in this country having done the same to minorities for hundreds of years.

…….and that’s probably the last social/political post I’ll ever make here. Please forgive me for being serious about something for a few moments. I’ll not do it again.

[Muskie]

Bigger question? Why does Cincinnati radio/media continue to have Bob on the air or interview him? He doesn't even like UC.

[muskiefan82]

I need to know if the crowd really threw rubber penises on to the court. This is what the real question is here. LOL

[Muskie]

I need to know if the crowd really threw rubber penises on to the court. This is what the real question is here. LOL
I honestly don't remember.

[chico]

Bigger question? Why does Cincinnati radio/media continue to have Bob on the air or interview him? He doesn't even like UC.

It's Bill Cunningham - that should answer your question. He's yukking it up with Huggins and his former assistant coach/lackey.

[paulxu]

I honestly don't remember.

I thought it was just me. I don't remember it either. Can someone who was there enlighten us?

[Roach]

If he had just say “that’s just them being Catholics”, would there be near the uproar? Probably not IMO. In our world today it’s more than OK to disparage western religions, in fact it’s often encouraged. But say something about any minority and you’re going to be canceled in every way possible. This is somewhat a backlash for the major religions and ethnic groups in this country having done the same to minorities for hundreds of years.

…….and that’s probably the last social/political post I’ll ever make here. Please forgive me for being serious about something for a few moments. I’ll not do it again.

Thank you. I am troubled by the fact that, with only two words, Huggins evinced both homophobia *and* anti-Catholicism, and yet hand wringers in the media and on social media are only rebuking him for the former. Why? Because anti-Christian sentiment, and anti-Catholicism most especially, is one of the last forms of acceptable prejudice… and we all know why. Can you imagine the field day the media would have had if he’d called a group of people “Muslim f*gs”? You’re damn right there’d be more ink spilled about it than has been spilled over his anti-Catholicism.

In short, while I fully agree that his homophobic slur was abhorrent, I also have no shortage of criticism for those who are outraged about the homophobia but have not a word to say about his religious discrimination.

[Muskeagle]

Thank you. I am troubled by the fact that, with only two words, Huggins evinced both homophobia *and* anti-Catholicism, and yet hand wringers in the media and on social media are only rebuking him for the former. Why? Because anti-Christian sentiment, and anti-Catholicism most especially, is one of the last forms of acceptable prejudice… and we all know why. Can you imagine the field day the media would have had if he’d called a group of people “Muslim f*gs”? You’re damn right there’d be more ink spilled about it than has been spilled over his anti-Catholicism.

In short, while I fully agree that his homophobic slur was abhorrent, I also have no shortage of criticism for those who are outraged about the homophobia but have not a word to say about his religious discrimination.



I think there is some truth to this sentiment, but but if he had called Xavier folks....a bunch of Catholics....well, that would just be true. It's the INCLUSION of the other word that turns the statement about a group of Catholics INTO a slur. So yes, he's being both homophobic and anti-Catholic, but the bite is in the homophobic slur....and therein lies the pre-occupation with that side of it.
just my two cents

[Muskeagle]

Thank you. I am troubled by the fact that, with only two words, Huggins evinced both homophobia *and* anti-Catholicism, and yet hand wringers in the media and on social media are only rebuking him for the former. Why? Because anti-Christian sentiment, and anti-Catholicism most especially, is one of the last forms of acceptable prejudice… and we all know why. Can you imagine the field day the media would have had if he’d called a group of people “Muslim f*gs”? You’re damn right there’d be more ink spilled about it than has been spilled over his anti-Catholicism.

In short, while I fully agree that his homophobic slur was abhorrent, I also have no shortage of criticism for those who are outraged about the homophobia but have not a word to say about his religious discrimination.

SORRY FOR the double post. Site was acting strange.

I think there is some truth to this sentiment, but but if he had called Xavier folks....a bunch of Catholics....well, that would just be true. It's the INCLUSION of the other word that turns the statement about a group of Catholics INTO a slur. So yes, he's being both homophobic and anti-Catholic, but the bite is in the homophobic slur....and therein lies the pre-occupation with that side of it.
just my two cents

[xudash]

I need to know if the crowd really threw rubber penises on to the court. This is what the real question is here. LOL

Exactly. I was thinking the exact same thing. I can't imagine that being allowed in the Cintas Center. Cincinnati Gardens? Well, that was part of its charm.

[STL_XUfan]

Exactly. I was thinking the exact same thing. I can't imagine that being allowed in the Cintas Center. Cincinnati Gardens? Well, that was part of its charm.

All you would have to do is hold it over your head and security would be fine with it.

It isn’t unbelievable that this could have happened at a game. What is unbelievable is that it happened and nobody remembers or talks about it. This story would have gone down in Xavier lore with each telling increasing the size and number of dildos.

[xudash]

Thought just occurred to me: most here - and I agree - have stated that we should stay out of the fray over all of this. A certain type of response from Xavier would not serve our best interests. I'm fine with that; I get that.

Here's our potential issue: we've been slandered - as a fan base, as tied to an institution. As "Animal House Funny" as it sounds to have fans throwing rubber penises at a clown like Huggins, it also is true that that is a bad look for Xavier and its fans in many quarters.

This drunk had to have made that incident up. No one here remembers anything like this every happening. In what is considered one of the top rivalries in college basketball, we have never heard a whisper about such a thing happening during that game. How is that possible if it, in fact, happened?

Bottomline: there is a lot of people out there now who have a rather negative perception of Xavier fans and Xavier (sorry, guilt through association in this society) because of what this drunk said on the radio. So, I'm back to going after him for 20 mill for the new football stadium!

[STL_XUfan]

Thought just occurred to me: most here - and I agree - have stated that we should stay out of the fray over all of this. A certain type of response from Xavier would not serve our best interests. I'm fine with that; I get that.

Here's our potential issue: we've been slandered - as a fan base, as tied to an institution. As "Animal House Funny" as it sounds to have fans throwing rubber penises at a clown like Huggins, it also is true that that is a bad look for Xavier and its fans in many quarters.

This drunk had to have made that incident up. No one here remembers anything like this every happening. In what is considered one of the top rivalries in college basketball, we have never heard a whisper about such a thing happening during that game. How is that possible if it, in fact, happened?

Bottomline: there is a lot of people out there now who have a rather negative perception of Xavier fans and Xavier (sorry, guilt through association in this society) because of what this drunk said on the radio. So, I'm back to going after him for 20 mill for the new football stadium!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect No one but us is talking about the Xavier side of this story. Why bring more attention to the part of the story no one cares about?

[Masterofreality]

I’d like to know the exact year that the object throwing occurred. Never heard a thing about that, nor anything said on TV and I have all the Crosstown Shootouts recorded.
Thuggins claims 1) Dan Peters was his Assistant, 2)that Bilas was doing the game, but the only games at Xavier when Peters was Assistant was 1999 at the Gardens, 2001 in Cintas when UC won by 20 when David West got hurt and 2004 in the Lionel Chalmers game. If it was 2004, Bilas wasn’t in the booth. Len Elmore was the color guy. And, at that game, UC Sucks shirts were banned from Cintas and Father Hoff and Nancy Zimpher actually did a mid court pregame ceremony together to lessen the rancor. If it was 1999, Bilas didn’t do that game either. It was Dick Vitale as the color guy. The other games were at 166.7% Arena.
I doubt that Huggy would be mad about a game that he won by 20 in 2001. I don’t think Bilas did that game either. I call total BS. Guess BeelzeBob was drunk again.

From the Canton Repository Newspaper a few days before yesterday:

https://www.cantonrep.com/story/sports/college/basketball/2023/05/08/what-did-bob-huggins-say-homophobic-slur-radio-xavier-canton-ohio-west-virginia-basketball-coach/70195796007/

[atljar]

Whelp, X responded......

https://twitter.com/XavierU/status/1656000668572762114?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1656000668572762114%7Ctwgr% 5E079399415e6c0c78d32b258166548ec105a9e0ec%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwvmetronews.com%2F2023%2F05% 2F09%2Ftalkline-guests-callers-discuss-huggins-comments-future%2F

[XUBison]

Ha, what a bad take. He obviously wants to keep his job my man.

Weird… I wonder why he said it in the first place then? Of course WVU wants to save face, but I suspect Huggins doesn’t give a rip at this point.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Weird… I wonder why he said it in the first place then? Of course WVU wants to save face, but I suspect Huggins doesn’t give a rip at this point.

Because he's a drunk moron. Probably forgot he was even on air.

There is a 0% chance that Bob Huggins doesn't care if he is fired from WVU because of this.

[xu82]

Whelp, X responded......

https://twitter.com/XavierU/status/1656000668572762114?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1656000668572762114%7Ctwgr% 5E079399415e6c0c78d32b258166548ec105a9e0ec%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwvmetronews.com%2F2023%2F05% 2F09%2Ftalkline-guests-callers-discuss-huggins-comments-future%2F

I don’t see anything about plastic penises.

IF this really happened, I’d think somebody here would have some recollection of this. I don’t trust Huggy as far as I can throw him.

On the other hand, some Bills fan threw a dildo at Tom Brady during a game, and the consensus was that he deserved it. There is photographic evidence. Hey, we jump through burning tables, what do you expect?

[xudash]

Kerr Kriisa has announced he will be retracting his commitment to West Virginia and will re-enter the transfer portal, per source.

The former Arizona Wildcat has two years of eligibility remaining.

[paulxu]

Kerr Kriisa has announced he will be retracting his commitment to West Virginia and will re-enter the transfer portal, per source.

The former Arizona Wildcat has two years of eligibility remaining.

Since I think Huggy was proud of beating us out for that guy, it would be sweet justice for him to come to X.
Almost worth the made up penis nonsense.

[MHettel]

Kerr Kriisa has announced he will be retracting his commitment to West Virginia and will re-enter the transfer portal, per source.

The former Arizona Wildcat has two years of eligibility remaining.

wow. I was wondering about that....

[xukeith]

It was a stupid statement. I don't want us to lose Huggins. He is the gift that keeps on giving.

No opposing coach has deserved so much negative news like Bob. He fits the role perfectly.

[noteggs]

Guess rivalry hasn’t lost its luster. Despite Paul D’s observations. Actually, Daugherty had a pretty somewhat odd (if you can call it that) article on Huggs today.

[STL_XUfan]

Kerr Kriisa has announced he will be retracting his commitment to West Virginia and will re-enter the transfer portal, per source.

The former Arizona Wildcat has two years of eligibility remaining.
I think you got Markus Walteresed

[XUGRAD80]

Guess rivalry hasn’t lost its luster. Despite Paul D’s observations. Actually, Daugherty had a pretty somewhat odd (if you can call it that) article on Huggs today.

Doc retired, didn’t he? Williams took his place. That might be who’s column you’re referring to?

[bjf123]

Doc retired, didn’t he? Williams took his place. That might be who’s column you’re referring to?

Looks like Doc has a blog.

https://themorningline.substack.com


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[noteggs]

Looks like Doc has a blog.

https://themorningline.substack.com


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Yes this ^^^

[IM4X]

Since I think Huggy was proud of beating us out for that guy, it would be sweet justice for him to come to X.
Almost worth the made up penis nonsense.

Ha. I was thinking the same thing. It would be a great story.

Wasn’t he looking for a lot of money with his NIL deal? I thought WVU was offering him $500k. Maybe with all the additional buzz he’d certainly get by switching to X, he’d be willing to take a lot less.

[Roach]

Ha. I was thinking the same thing. It would be a great story.

Wasn’t he looking for a lot of money with his NIL deal? I thought WVU was offering him $500k. Maybe with all the additional buzz he’d certainly get by switching to X, he’d be willing to take a lot less.

If Kriisa also commits to Xavier, his departure from WVU would become an even bigger slap to Huggins’ face and sweet, sweet poetic justice. Sports media would be all over it. Also, as much as Huggins hated X before all of this, imagine how tied in knots he’d become if Kriisa ends up at Xavier. I laugh just thinking about it. Call me childish, but I never say no to a healthy dose of schadenfreude.

That said, I think it’s well within the realm of possibility that committing to X would generate enough buzz that it’d lead to NIL deals on par with that of the alleged $500k from WVU boosters. Sean Miller is no dummy; he’d surely point out to Kriisa the optics that his commitment to X would generate. He’d become a sports media darling.

[IM4X]

If Kriisa also commits to Xavier, his departure from WVU would become an even bigger slap to Huggins’ face and sweet, sweet poetic justice. Sports media would be all over it. Also, as much as Huggins hated X before all of this, imagine how tied in knots he’d become if Kriisa ends up at Xavier. I laugh just thinking about it. Call me childish, but I never say no to a healthy dose of schadenfreude.

That said, I think it’s well within the realm of possibility that committing to X would generate enough buzz that it’d lead to NIL deals on par with that of the alleged $500k from WVU boosters. Sean Miller is no dummy; he’d surely point out to Kriisa the optics that his commitment to X would generate. He’d become a sports media darling.

The only thing is that Sean is pretty good friends with Huggins. They’ve known each other since they were both very young (well, when Sean was very young anyway). Gotta think Sean would tread very lightly with this situation.

https://www.timesonline.com/story/sports/2008/03/24/long-time-friends-miller-huggins/18401233007/

Sean will never personally do anything to make Huggins look worse than he already does, but he could very well step in and delicately find a way to reap the benefits of his friend’s misfortune.

Because of their long relationship, I will not be the least bit surprised if we find out that Huggins reached out to Sean for help with damage control.

[XUBison]

Because he's a drunk moron. Probably forgot he was even on air.

There is a 0% chance that Bob Huggins doesn't care if he is fired from WVU because of this.


Getting fired from WVU changes nothing for him. Clearly, he gives no shits.

[xeus]

Because of their long relationship, I will not be the least bit surprised if we find out that Huggins reached out to Sean for help with damage control.

Zero chance that happens. It presumes Huggins cares. He does not give one fuck. It would be more likely he would reach out for help with his drinking problem.

[muskiefan82]

I do wonder, given E. Gordon Gee's illustrious history with his own comments, if anything will happen at all

[Masterofreality]

Nothing will happen.
Off season and it’s gonna fade away into the Blue Ridge Mountains.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Hugs gets a suspension, $1-mil salary reduction and required sensitivity training.

Doubt this is over yet, tho. I expect the Twitter virgins to focus on WVU’s Nike sponsorship.

Either way, wouldn’t mind being a fly on the wall for Hugs sensitivity training.

[sirthought]

For those who are hurt by this and wanting to force change, this punishment still falls short. Only a firing will be seen as "we don't tolerate this behavior."

A guy as wealthy as Huggins, he won't miss that money. Game suspensions at this level won't show anyone that that language has repercussions. He still runs the program.

But this off-season WVU has recruited through the transfer portal what's considered one of the strongest group of five players to ever join a school in one year. Much of that was using hard-raising NIL dollars. The school can't build that kind of support and then have the coach be sent out the door over an insensitive comment. Nobody was killed. If Xavier hoops fans are really injured by this, I'd want to check your pulse.

But social justice warriors view any offending behavior as a reason to cancel a person and this will feel like a slap in the face. They'll keep taking an approach to make more of an example. I'd say the punishment is pretty significant, but to them it won't be.

[muskiefan82]

Wow. It cost Bob Huggins $1 million dollars to let X live rent-free in his head. I think he needs an economics course rather than sensitivity training.

[Final4]

Nothing will happen.
Off season and it’s gonna fade away into the Blue Ridge Mountains.

I agree with MOR......nothing will happen. Oh wait, shit, what was I thinking, he's wrong about nearly everything!!!

[paulxu]

Is sensitivity training another way of saying a reflection session?

[XU_Lou]

Holy shit! WVU is making Huggy:

"Coach Huggins personally volunteered and WVU agrees that he will make a substantial donation to Xavier University to support its Center for Faith and Justice and its Center for Diversity and Inclusion. "

https://wvusports.com/news/2023/5/10/mens-basketball-statement-from-president-e-gordon-gee-and-director-of-athletics-wren-baker.aspx

[XU_Lou]

Love this idea:

"Hypothetically, if someone were to obtain an image of said check, and hypothetically, make it into a big display check, what are the chances this hypothetical big check gets displayed inside The Cintas Center and/or
@Danagardens"

https://twitter.com/XavierNation/status/1656360773357039620

[xu82]

Love this idea:

"Hypothetically, if someone were to obtain an image of said check, and hypothetically, make it into a big display check, what are the chances this hypothetical big check gets displayed inside The Cintas Center and/or
@Danagardens"

https://twitter.com/XavierNation/status/1656360773357039620

Dana’s puts checks up on the wall, but only if they bounce!

At least, that is what I heard.

[MHettel]

I actually think the punishment he received is WORSE than if he were fired. He's down at least a Million, plus whatever he donates to XU. He's got to go through a bunch of sessions which you KNOW will just kill him. His contract is now year-to-year. he's gonna miss 3 games. And he's facing strike 3 if he does ANYTHING.

Wasnt this a little similar to how Bobby Knight ended at IU?

[paulxu]

Reading this, it almost might seem they want Huggy to be "woke." (Aware of differences we all have)


To begin, the Athletics Department will partner with WVU's LGBTQ+ Center to develop annual training sessions that will address all aspects of inequality including homophobia, transphobia, sexism, ableism and more. This training and programming will be required of Coach Huggins and all current and future athletics coaching staff.

Next, according to the Williams Institute, West Virginia has the highest percentage of transgender youth in the nation. To address the concerns of our West Virginia youth, Coach Huggins will be required to meet with LGBTQ+ leaders from across West Virginia with guidance from the leadership of WVU's LGBTQ+ Center.

https://wvusports.com/news/2023/5/10/mens-basketball-statement-from-president-e-gordon-gee-and-director-of-athletics-wren-baker.aspx

[bjf123]

Wow. It cost Bob Huggins $1 million dollars to let X live rent-free in his head. I think he needs an economics course rather than sensitivity training.

Well played, Sir! [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]


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[xubrew]

Love this idea:

"Hypothetically, if someone were to obtain an image of said check, and hypothetically, make it into a big display check, what are the chances this hypothetical big check gets displayed inside The Cintas Center and/or
@Danagardens"

https://twitter.com/XavierNation/status/1656360773357039620

It’s 2023. No one writes checks anymore.

[X-band '01]

It’s 2023. No one writes checks anymore.

I feel like there's a Jerry Springer joke waiting to be ....

Too soon?

[noteggs]

I feel like there's a Jerry Springer joke waiting to be ....

Too soon?

My college roommate’s first job after was managing a 5th 3rd branch. They had to call him directly because lack finances in his account for that check. Classic and is always a point of conversation. Jerry was actually a good dude.

[nickgyp]

I feel like there's a Jerry Springer joke waiting to be ....

Too soon?
Well, it was a rubber check….

[IM4X]

Thank you. I am troubled by the fact that, with only two words, Huggins evinced both homophobia *and* anti-Catholicism, and yet hand wringers in the media and on social media are only rebuking him for the former. Why? Because anti-Christian sentiment, and anti-Catholicism most especially, is one of the last forms of acceptable prejudice… and we all know why. Can you imagine the field day the media would have had if he’d called a group of people “Muslim f*gs”? You’re damn right there’d be more ink spilled about it than has been spilled over his anti-Catholicism.

In short, while I fully agree that his homophobic slur was abhorrent, I also have no shortage of criticism for those who are outraged about the homophobia but have not a word to say about his religious discrimination.

Thought you might appreciate the piece from the NY Post (if you didn’t already see it).

https://nypost.com/2023/05/11/bob-huggins-shady-tactics-have-been-indulged-for-years/amp/


Here is an excerpt from the article:

Also, this week, in what seemed a sign of the times, the media were more outraged that Huggins bashed homosexuals than that he bashed Catholics. Is one bigoted bashing more acceptable than the other?

Also, there’s another incident mentioned in the article. I almost lost it (in laughter) watching how ridiculously blown out of proportion that incedent was. It’s the incident where ESPN host John Anderson joked about a Golden Knight’s defenseman’s last name sounding like toilet paper. The defensiveman’s last name is “White Cloud.” Now, I didn’t hear exactly how he said it, but the player named Whitecloud didn’t seem all that offended by it. They have a video clip of reporters asking him about it and then him giving what should have been a 30 second response. Instead, he ends up going on and on for what feels like an eternity. Honest to God, I felt like I was watching an SNL skit. The player was very classy about the entire thing, but the whole things is just so odd. You would have thought they were interviewing a man shot him 10 times and had his child kidnapped.

So why was it such a big deal???? Had the player been Catholic, 100% Caucasian and straight, it likely wouldn’t have been. As if turns out, the defensiveman got his name from his Native American grandfather. It was pointed out that John Anderson had no idea he was even part Native American. WhiteCloud is very light complected, as you can see in the video. It was simply a spontaneous response from a humorous ESPN host trying to make a harmlessly joke… and it likely may have been received that way had that player been fallen into one of the last groups society is allowed to playfully or even not so playfully poke fun at - the white Catholic straight man. Also, had Charles Barkley made the joke, it’s doubtful there is even an incident we are talking about. Apparently, Barkley is one of the remain few individuals on Tv allowed the freedom to attempt harmlessly humorous without repercussions.

Had Anderson’s attempt at humor sounded remotely disrespectful, discriminatory, derogatory… had it come across racist, sexist, homophobic or purposely insensitive, then it would certainly deserve the attention it received.

What may truly make this incident absurd is that “White Cloud” actually is the name of a toilet paper brand. Yes. The reason it sounds like toilet paper is because it actually is. I wonder how much this would have blown up if the defensiveman had the last name Honeycomb instead and John Anderson made a joke about it sounding like a breakfast cereal. I mean, how are we deciding which words are offensive and which ones are not?

https://www.amazon.com/White-Cloud-Strong-Toilet-Regular/dp/B09T7Z8TK3/ref=asc_df_B09T7Z8TK3/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=642124004800&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2717254307629374305&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003654&hvtargid=pla-1753344960882&psc=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7uGBm-bw_gIVDtLjBx2F1gXwEAQYASABEgJx6PD_BwE

It’s really sad how we struggle today as a society to recognize the difference between something that truly is inexcusable… something that is clearly a mean and harmful slur (what Huggins said) and something someone said as a off-the-cuff, lighthearted joke with no intention of offending a person’s race, religion, gender or sexual orientation (what the ESPN host said).

[xukeith]

I wouldn't of fired Huggins. It looks bad but he paid X, and apologized. That is enough for me.

[bjf123]

Thought you might appreciate the piece from the NY Post (if you didn’t already see it).

https://nypost.com/2023/05/11/bob-huggins-shady-tactics-have-been-indulged-for-years/amp/


Here is an excerpt from the article:

Also, this week, in what seemed a sign of the times, the media were more outraged that Huggins bashed homosexuals than that he bashed Catholics. Is one bigoted bashing more acceptable than the other?



Yes, it is. Catholics are pretty much the only faith where it’s acceptable in the media to insult.


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[paulxu]

Living rent free....

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2023/05/09/bob-huggins-disparaged-xavier-at-football-hall-of-fame-luncheon-before-using-slur-on-700-wlw/70202041007/

[MHettel]

I actually think the punishment he received is WORSE than if he were fired. He's down at least a Million, plus whatever he donates to XU. He's got to go through a bunch of sessions which you KNOW will just kill him. His contract is now year-to-year. he's gonna miss 3 games. And he's facing strike 3 if he does ANYTHING.

Wasnt this a little similar to how Bobby Knight ended at IU?

Bobby Knight comparison is holding up nicely….

[Irishjohn68]

Huggins is a true degenerate. Classless punk.