Pitino To St. John’s

[Roach]

It’s official.

[xukeith]

Cooley to Georgetown per Twitter.

[Three Point Pete]

Cooley to Georgetown per Twitter.Boston Globe reports it is official. Georgetown picked Providence's pocket.

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[D-West & PO-Z]

Pitino to SJU great for the BE.

Cooley to Georgetown neutral for BE.

Let's hop Providence can nail their hire.

[GoMuskies]

I hate Pitino, but I'm excited for him to go to St. John's, make them relevant, and absorb repeated ass kickings from Sean Miller!

[JTG]

Does anyone wonder if Val went to ST Johns and Georgetown and said "Hey folks you need to fix two of our marquee programs, We have network negotiations on the horizon".

[94GRAD]

Does anyone wonder if Val went to ST Johns and Georgetown and said "Hey folks you need to fix two of our marquee programs, We have network negotiations on the horizon".

I'm stealing this for Twitter and crediting you!

[Three Point Pete]

Boston Globe reports it is official. Georgetown picked Providence's pocket.

Sent from my SM-A326U using TapatalkProvidence Journal reports Cooley doubled his salary to $6 million

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[xu82]

Providence Journal reports Cooley doubled his salary to $6 million

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That sounds rather persuasive.

[X-band '01]

I'm going to get the popcorn and watch Kevin Ollie 2.0 unfold for St. John's. It's going to be a lot of money for 1 head coach and 1 not-to-coach.

[UCGRAD4X]

Providence Journal reports Cooley doubled his salary to $6 million

That's going to cost all of us eventually.

[xukeith]

Does DePaul have the lowest paid BE coach?

[X-band '01]

Used to be the Tin Man who was the lowest paid BE coach - for good reason. Honestly not sure if it's DePaul or Butler now.

[MHettel]

Well, thats the first significant Big East win GTown has had in about a decade.

[noteggs]

Pitino to SJU great for the BE.

Cooley to Georgetown neutral for BE.

Let's hop Providence can nail their hire.

If I had a guess which could be off base, Kim English from George Mason. Don’t think Billy the kid will take the huge pay cut.

[GoMuskies]

I hope they don't hire the guy from FDU just because he's the guy who just had a run (or the guy from Princeton).

I wonder if Pat Kelsey is looking for a promotion this offseason (not necessarily Providence related; just in general).

[xavierj]

With Cooley getting $6 million my guess is Xavier will have to give Sean quite the raise here once the season concludes.

[GoMuskies]

With Cooley getting $6 million my guess is Xavier will have to give Sean quite the raise here once the season concludes.

What has Miller done to earn a raise, really?

And why doesn't this board have a sarcasm font?

[xukeith]

Curious, I checked out red.fans.
There were over 350 posts in past 16 hours on excitement of Pitino new hire.
If they start winning, SJU will get some much improved home attendance numbers. NYers are starving for some BE basketball.

[X-band '01]

With Cooley getting $6 million my guess is Xavier will have to give Sean quite the raise here once the season concludes.

Technically they're already passing around the collection plate with the upcoming Cintas Center renovations/reseating.

[UCGRAD4X]

Technically they're already passing around the collection plate with the upcoming Cintas Center renovations/reseating.

My guess is it's going to be making an extra round one way or another.

What price glory?

[xukeith]

This will help Fox Sports 1 tv contract with BE. Possibly millions of more viewers.

[SCMuskie]

What has Miller done to earn a raise, really?

And why doesn't this board have a sarcasm font?

Some other boards I am on use italics as their sarcasm font - works pretty well.

This is really good for the BE. Getting NY excited about college basketball will be big for TV contracts. Combine getting St John's and G-Town having good coaches and the tournament success the BE is on a good roll.

[nickgyp]

My guess is it's going to be making an extra round one way or another.

What price glory?

Yes, what price glory. I have already registered my disdain for Pitino no matter how good of a coach he has been. Cooley’s departure from Providence is disappointing as were Miller and Mack from Xavier. The big business aspect of college basketball rears its ugly head. Student-athlete becomes even more of a misnomer as loyalty matter less and less.

Xavier has been no different in regard to the business side; however my loyalty remains as I still believe Sean Miller is a very decent man who just happens to be a very good basketball coach.

[American X]

With trio of Sweet 16 teams and new coaches, Big East's banner week previews bright future (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/march-madness-2023-with-trio-of-sweet-16-teams-and-new-coaches-big-easts-banner-week-previews-bright-future/)

[Masterofreality]

Technically they're already passing around the collection plate with the upcoming Cintas Center renovations/reseating.

Uh huh.
And *some* on this board are mad that they were “allegedly” *promised* 12 years ago that there would NEVER be a ticket price or seat license increase. And *some* are upset that their seating applecart is getting overturned due to the need for increased revenue. Wah, Wah.
The old men yelling at cloud meme fits perfectly here.
(What ever Sean gets paid is worth every Penny)

[Masterofreality]

With trio of Sweet 16 teams and new coaches, Big East's banner week previews bright future (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/march-madness-2023-with-trio-of-sweet-16-teams-and-new-coaches-big-easts-banner-week-previews-bright-future/)

I mean, how blessed that 10 years ago Xavier was invited into this incredible league?
Father Hoff’s hand ascending gesture was more accurate than even he knew. Top Jimmy had the vision.
Now Xavier is starting a medical school and bringing back football?
The series of Presidents, Athletic Directors, Coaches and Players at MY school is amazing to review. Someday someone will write a book about XU history, starting with when Fr. Mulligan tried to move athletics to D3.
Dr. Bill Daily had better have the title of Savior in that book.
Always remember……..

[xavbball]

Uh huh.
And *some* on this board are mad that they were “allegedly” *promised* 12 years ago that there would NEVER be a ticket price or seat license increase. And *some* are upset that their seating applecart is getting overturned due to the need for increased revenue. Wah, Wah.
The old men yelling at cloud meme fits perfectly here.
(What ever Sean gets paid is worth every Penny)

Better product = higher price. Want to “keep your seats” we can go back to a coach like Steele. I never understood all the bickering about it.

[Final4]

Better product = higher price. Want to “keep your seats” we can go back to a coach like Steele. I never understood all the bickering about it.

You really shouldn't place much stock in what this buffoon has to say. I'm rather certain you would be hard-pressed to find any reference on this board where someone was complaining about ticket and/or seat license increases. This is an intelligent group of people and I'm quite certain that everyone here understands that prices go up.

[bleedXblue]

Better product = higher price. Want to “keep your seats” we can go back to a coach like Steele. I never understood all the bickering about it.

this is EXACTLY it

people being upset b/c they cant sit with all of their friends vs 4 years of hell watching a coach in over his head.

I want to watch WINNING basketball first and foremost

if that costs a little more and we have to move seats every 4-5 years I am all in for that

[bleedXblue]

You really shouldn't place much stock in what this buffoon has to say. I'm rather certain you would be hard-pressed to find any reference on this board where someone was complaining about ticket and/or seat license increases. This is an intelligent group of people and I'm quite certain that everyone here understands that prices go up.

Oh no.....there are folks on this board that have complained mightily about it

[X-man]

Uh huh.
And *some* on this board are mad that they were “allegedly” *promised* 12 years ago that there would NEVER be a ticket price or seat license increase. And *some* are upset that their seating applecart is getting overturned due to the need for increased revenue. Wah, Wah.
The old men yelling at cloud meme fits perfectly here.
(What ever Sean gets paid is worth every Penny)

Where did anyone say on this board that ticket prices would never increase? You just don't get it. It's been said by me and others that Xavier would create fewer problems for people if they just raised prices or seat license costs if they need more money. Doing a reseating is both incredibly inefficient and risks creating a situation where the fans get broken up. It's NOT necessary to increase revenue!! Get it now, MOR??

[X-man]

this is EXACTLY it

people being upset b/c they cant sit with all of their friends vs 4 years of hell watching a coach in over his head.

I want to watch WINNING basketball first and foremost

if that costs a little more and we have to move seats every 4-5 years I am all in for that

Why do you have to move seats every 4-5 years if all Xavier needs is more revenue? makes no sense.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Why do you have to move seats every 4-5 years if all Xavier needs is more revenue? makes no sense.

They reconfigured the seats. I am so confused why it is hard to understand that they would need to go through a reseating process if some seats no longer exist.

It isn't like they decided to just randomly make everyone reseat for more revenue. They made a decision about the seat configuration to improve Cintas and it eliminated certain seats.

[Final4]

Oh no.....there are folks on this board that have complained mightily about it

I don't think so. I recall, and participated in, quite a bit of discussion regarding the reseating process and having to move to new seats. I don't recall anyone ever complaining about price increases. You're obviously welcome to prove me wrong but until then I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

[X-man]

I don't think so. I recall, and participated in, quite a bit of discussion regarding the reseating process and having to move to new seats. I don't recall anyone ever complaining about price increases. You're obviously welcome to prove me wrong but until then I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

That won't happen because no one complained on this board about price increases.

[Masterofreality]

That won't happen because no one complained on this board about price increases.

You complained that “The AD came into my office and said that this would never happen again”. Supposedly that was when Chris Mack was Coach.
And the discussion thread was about the reconfiguration of Cintas with the need to increase revenue. Those two things are intertwined/related
You claimed that Greg Christopher lied to you.
I’ll claim that is a thing that never happened.
Sean Miller is making over $2 million less/year than Ed Cooley is making. Stating that an Athletic Director at a major University would say that something would never happen again is ludicrous on its face.
Sorry.

[X-man]

You complained that “The AD came into my office and said that this would never happen again”. Supposedly that was when Chris Mack was Coach.
And the discussion thread was about the reconfiguration of Cintas with the need to increase revenue. Those two things are intertwined/related
You claimed that Greg Christopher lied to you.
I’ll claim that is a thing that never happened.
Sean Miller is making over $2 million less/year than Ed Cooley is making. Stating that an Athletic Director at a major University would say that something would never happen again is ludicrous on its face.
Sorry.

The discussion was about reseating only. More revenue was never part of our conversation. You can claim whatever you want, but I was there and you weren't. Sorry.

[XUGRAD80]

Anytime that there are physical changes to a venue, and a number of seats are eliminated or the location of seats is changed, someone is not going to be happy. When seat prices go up, someone is not going to be happy. In other words, you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people, any time. Someone is always going to be unhappy. The trick is to reduce the number of people that are unhappy down to the lowest level possible, while trying to make everyone happy, and realizing that you can’t. I don’t envy him that job.

[UCGRAD4X]

I don't know anybody that is happy about it. If they are not happy, they must be either ambivalent or unhappy. That doesn't mean they don't understand or are willing to go through the process for the good of the program and the university in general.

[D-West & PO-Z]

People will be unhappy and get over it, just like they did the last time, and Xavier basketball will be better off for it in the end.

Seems like a win to me.

[xeus]

I am 100% on board with increased ticket prices. I have revised my personal charitable giving plans to increase my giving to X this year and for at least the next five years. Will also be looking into planned giving options. I'm all in on X.

But I do NOT want to move from my current seats. I think it's ridiculous for X to have all season ticket holders go through the process, and have no option for people who are willing to pay more to keep their seats. For example, if X gave the option of "Pay a one time fee equal to 2x your current seat license fee and you can keep your current seats, or, alternatively, you can enter the seat realignment process" I would do that in a second. But there is no such option.

I want to give more money, and I also want to keep my current seats. I don't think that is unreasonable, and I certainly do not think it is whining.

MOR, do you understand the difference? I would think you of all people would understand. You aren't a huge donor, but you have been a fan for 50+ years. Same with me. Not a huge donor, but 40+ years of rabid fandom, including 20+ years as a season ticket holder. You don't care about losing your current seats. I do. A lot of other people do too. Simply put, X can achieve its revenue goals without moving everyone in the arena.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Xeus, I think the part you and some others are missing is that you seem to think it is only about the revenue. If that was the case, the option you discussed would be a viable one.

Xavier seems to be trying to do this in as fair as way as possible. There very well may be people losing their seats who are some of the longest tenured and/or biggest donors. Why should they be shit out of luck? That makes no sense.

Some people will end up with seats they like more, some with seats they like less, some won't give two shits either way. But I think Xavier is making this clear this is not a move intended to increase revenue by not presenting the option you suggested. It is a decision to improve Cintas that requires a reconfiguration. Tickets prices will invariably go up as well but that would have happened without a reconfiguration.

[xeus]

Xeus, I think the part you and some others are missing is that you seem to think it is only about the revenue.

It is about the revenue. Please share the other reasons X would be investing in these Cintas improvements aside from increased revenue.


Xavier seems to be trying to do this in as fair as way as possible. There very well may be people losing their seats who are some of the longest tenured and/or biggest donors. Why should they be shit out of luck? That makes no sense.

You think it is more "fair" to reseat 8000 people rather than find a solution for the 200 or so who will be affected by this? agree to disagree I guess.


But I think Xavier is making this clear this is not a move intended to increase revenue by not presenting the option you suggested. It is a decision to improve Cintas that requires a reconfiguration.

I think every single fan and season ticket holder understands and supports that we all have a role to play in keeping this incredible program and University moving forward. It is 100% about keeping the men's basketball program competitive in the best basketball league in the country, paying one of the great active coaches what he deserves, maintaining top facilities to recruit top talent, and having the best game experience of any venue in college basketball. I get that. I support it. Efforts by X to downplay the necessary revenue push come across as disingenuous. Call it what it is - most of us agree with the initiative and are ready to support it.

[paulxu]

Where is Pitino's seat :)

[D-West & PO-Z]

It is about the revenue. Please share the other reasons X would be investing in these Cintas improvements aside from increased revenue.





The improvements to the Cintas Center are, not the action of having people go through a reseating. It seems many people on here that are upset are suggesting the act of reseating is a money grab. I don't find that to be the case at all. I think the option you presented would be a money grab.

[X-man]

I am 100% on board with increased ticket prices. I have revised my personal charitable giving plans to increase my giving to X this year and for at least the next five years. Will also be looking into planned giving options. I'm all in on X.

But I do NOT want to move from my current seats. I think it's ridiculous for X to have all season ticket holders go through the process, and have no option for people who are willing to pay more to keep their seats. For example, if X gave the option of "Pay a one time fee equal to 2x your current seat license fee and you can keep your current seats, or, alternatively, you can enter the seat realignment process" I would do that in a second. But there is no such option.

I want to give more money, and I also want to keep my current seats. I don't think that is unreasonable, and I certainly do not think it is whining.

MOR, do you understand the difference? I would think you of all people would understand. You aren't a huge donor, but you have been a fan for 50+ years. Same with me. Not a huge donor, but 40+ years of rabid fandom, including 20+ years as a season ticket holder. You don't care about losing your current seats. I do. A lot of other people do too. Simply put, X can achieve its revenue goals without moving everyone in the arena.

MOR apparently doesn't get it. But he owes me an apology for repeatedly accusing me of lying because I said something he doesn't want to hear. It takes incredible hubris to claim someone is lying about a meeting where the accuser knows nothing about what was said because MOR wasn't present.

[Masterofreality]

MOR apparently doesn't get it. But he owes me an apology for repeatedly accusing me of lying because I said something he doesn't want to hear. It takes incredible hubris to claim someone is lying about a meeting where the accuser knows nothing about what was said because MOR wasn't present.

Uh huh. I’m not taking the “word” of an anonymous poster on a message board over the schools publically known Athletic Director who would never say never.
But keep being salty at me.
BTW Xeus. I’m a big enough donor and I just committed to a 10 year agreement. (I’m sure there are those on here who’ll trash me for bragging, but you asked). And I will trust the University to do what they need to do and go along with it WITHOUT bitching and moaning about it on a message board.
If someone has a problem with it, take it up with Xavier, Xavier tickets, or in the case of X Man, storm into Greg Christopher’s office and accuse him of being a liar. Let’s see how that goes.
This whole conversation continues to be stupid.

[xeus]

BTW Xeus. I’m a big enough donor and I just committed to a 10 year agreement. (I’m sure there are those on here who’ll trash me for bragging, but you asked). And I will trust the University to do what they need to do and go along with it WITHOUT bitching and moaning about it on a message board.
If someone has a problem with it, take it up with Xavier, Xavier tickets, or in the case of X Man, storm into Greg Christopher’s office and accuse him of being a liar. Let’s see how that goes.
This whole conversation continues to be stupid.

Thanks for your continued support of Xavier. I mean that sincerely - we need more like you to maintain the trajectory.

You’ll be pleased to know last time this happened, I did have a couple beers with Greg Christopher (and XU 87) and shared my thoughts. And one thing I told him is that I trust him and I trust Xavier, and always have. So, you see, I can do both. I can trust the University, and go along with it, and also comment on things, both publicly and privately. Cool?

[Masterofreality]

Thanks for your continued support of Xavier. I mean that sincerely - we need more like you to maintain the trajectory.

You’ll be pleased to know last time this happened, I did have a couple beers with Greg Christopher (and XU 87) and shared my thoughts. And one thing I told him is that I trust him and I trust Xavier, and always have. So, you see, I can do both. I can trust the University, and go along with it, and also comment on things, both publicly and privately. Cool?

Fair enough. And by the way. My interactions with Greg have also been honest, straightforward and cooperative even if we don’t necessarily agree.
Which in large part is the reason I will not believe posters who claim that he “lied”.
But posting complaints on a message board with less than 100 (?) regular posters isn’t gonna move the needle.
I still suggest going to the source.

[JTG]

A friend of mine is a Butler season ticket holder in that barn of theirs, and they reseat EVERY year.

[bjf123]

A friend of mine is a Butler season ticket holder in that barn of theirs, and they reseat EVERY year.

I’ve heard Marquette does the same thing. Does Butler do it with their version of Musketeer Points? If X did that every year, I’m not sure I’d keep my tickets. That’s too much of a pain.


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[Masterofreality]

A friend of mine is a Butler season ticket holder in that barn of theirs, and they reseat EVERY year.

Welcome to the real world.

[xeus]

A friend of mine is a Butler season ticket holder in that barn of theirs, and they reseat EVERY year.

Yeah, they do an annual “select-a-seat” program. MOR calls that “the real world.” Personally I think Xavier can do a little better than the Butler way.

[Xville]

Lol the real world. That’s the exception, not the rule. Geezus he sticks to his positions no matter how wrong they are

[Masterofreality]

Yeah, they do an annual “select-a-seat” program. MOR calls that “the real world.” Personally I think Xavier can do a little better than the Butler way.

We don’t do it every year Xeus. That seems to be a “little better”?
Again. This discussion on this board is stupid. Talk to Xavier, as I know you do.

[X-man]

Fair enough. And by the way. My interactions with Greg have also been honest, straightforward and cooperative even if we don’t necessarily agree.
Which in large part is the reason I will not believe posters who claim that he “lied”.
But posting complaints on a message board with less than 100 (?) regular posters isn’t gonna move the needle.
I still suggest going to the source.

I did, the last time they reseated. The "source" told me that this was a one-time event, and it wouldn't be repeated.

[Final4]

Uh huh. I’m not taking the “word” of an anonymous poster on a message board over the schools publically known Athletic Director who would never say never.
But keep being salty at me.
BTW Xeus. I’m a big enough donor and I just committed to a 10 year agreement. (I’m sure there are those on here who’ll trash me for bragging, but you asked). And I will trust the University to do what they need to do and go along with it WITHOUT bitching and moaning about it on a message board.
If someone has a problem with it, take it up with Xavier, Xavier tickets, or in the case of X Man, storm into Greg Christopher’s office and accuse him of being a liar. Let’s see how that goes.
This whole conversation continues to be stupid.


OMG classic MOR……bragging about how much he donates. There are several statues on campus, Mother Teresa, St. Francis Xavier, Fr. Hoff, D’Artagnan among others.

I understand that Bob Sheeran and his physical plant staff are anticipating the addition of two new statues sometime in future. Father B with an inscription that reads, “Hello Saints”, and MOR with an inscription that reads, “I’m a big donor”.

[Xville]

Lol just had to comment about how big a donor he is ( I sincerely doubt it. People that brag about how much money they make or give have an inflated sense of self and are typically fully of shit). Also said “ since you asked” lol he never asked.

[Masterofreality]

I did, the last time they reseated. The "source" told me that this was a one-time event, and it wouldn't be repeated.

Uh huh. Just keep repeating a lie that no quality AD would ever say.
I’ll give you credit and say you “misremembered”. Is your name Andy Petit?

[webxu]

Does anyone else think Providence should have waited a bit and tried to get FAU's coach?

[Masterofreality]

Does anyone else think Providence should have waited a bit and tried to get FAU's coach?

Maybe? But that guy will be in high demand.

[X-band '01]

Does anyone else think Providence should have waited a bit and tried to get FAU's coach?

Notre Dame could have also waited, but Micah Shrewsberry liked the job.

[X-band '01]

Maybe? But that guy will be in high demand.

Then again, I hope he's not holding out for a dumpster fire like Cal-Berkeley.

[JTG]

Notre Dame could have also waited, but Micah Shrewsberry liked the job.

There is actually some family & professional history between Shrewsberry and Jack Swarbrick NDs AD.

[Olsingledigit]

We don’t do it every year Xeus. That seems to be a “little better”?
Again. This discussion on this board is stupid. Talk to Xavier, as I know you do.
Indiana also does it every year I believe.