Game Thread: Xavier v Cincinnati (12/10/2022)

[paulxu]

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THE MATCHUP

XAVIER UNIVERSITY MUSKETEERS (6-3, 0-0 BIG EAST)
UNIVERSITY OF CINCINNATI BEARCATS (6-3, 0-0 AMERICAN)
SATURDAY, DEC. 10, 2022 AT 3:00 P.M. ET
AT FIFTH THIRD ARENA (12,012) IN CINCINNATI, OHIO

TV, RADIO & LIVE STATS

Television: ESPN2 with play by-play from Jordan Bernfield and analysis from Jordan Cornette.
Radio: 55KRC with play-by-play from Xavier Hall of Famer Joe Sunderman ('79) and analysis from XU all-time leading scorer and Hall of Famer Byron Larkin ('88).

Live Stats: Media stats at Statbroadcast.com (http://statbroadcast.com/) and fan stats at GoXavier.com (https://goxavier.com/).

[UCGRAD4X]

Miller Plus "Champagne of Bottled Beers"

vs

Miller Lite "Wess Taste, More Filling"

[American X]

Clicking down to the end of Friday, I am properly jacked for the Crosstown Shootout tomorrow.

With Xavier scoring really well and neither team defending that well, what is the over/under?

I think tomorrow calls for a Skyline outing with the kids.

[Xville]

so what are we thinking X -4 or 5 for line?

[GoMuskies]

Sagarin would suggest Xavier -4.

[Xville]

Sagarin would suggest Xavier -4.

I really hope it's somewhere around there...if it is, ill be hitting it like Salma Hayek in my dreams

[94GRAD]

Sagarin would suggest Xavier -4.

Ken Pom says 74-72 X

[xukeith]

Will Kunkel overcompensate for being a local player and try to shoot some wild threes to make a statement?

[atljar]

I saw X -6.5 and 133o/u (which seems awfully low).

[Xville]

I saw X -6.5 and 133o/u (which seems awfully low).

Sounds about right for the line and I wouldn’t touch it with x being on the road. I agree regarding the o/u. Would probably bet that one

[xavierj]

Xavier -2 and 152.5 is the line right now. Surprised it’s that low

[94GRAD]

Put as many units as you feel comfortable on X then do 5 more. #FreeMoney

[Xville]

Xavier -2 and 152.5 is the line right now. Surprised it’s that low

Geezus I’m pounding that.

[xavierj]

Geezus I’m pounding that.

Yep. Get it while you can

[Xavier]

The computers have it as 2-3 point game as well….I have no clue why, I’ll be shocked if it’s within 12 points.

[GoMuskies]

Something weird must be up. I just got X -2 at Betonline. Not available yet at BetMGM.

[Lloyd Braun]

I got it at -1.5 on FD and they pulled it immediately after I hammered the shit out of it. I’ll be at Dana’s after the game to drown sorrows…

[Xville]

Just got it at -2. Literally think that line is insane. I know the computers say that’s right in line but think those are insane as well.

[Xville]

Saw the line moved to -4 this morning. I still can’t believe it was -2, even -1.5 in some places.

[American X]

Last year, Jack Nunge had a game for the ages in his first Shootout. Who is going to put their stamp on the rivalry this year?

[X-band '01]

I would love to see Jerome Hunter be the breakout Xavier player that always seems to come out of the weeds against UC.

[American X]

I would love to see Jerome Hunter be the breakout Xavier player that always seems to come out of the weeds against UC.

All I want for Christmas is for this to be known as The Jerome Hunter Game (and include The Jerome Hunter Three Point Experience for Hanukah).

[bjf123]

Let’s go X! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221210/a0dbb5f7411623f08102dfaf228e8522.jpg


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[GoMuskies]

This stupid OK game is going long.

[Three Point Pete]

Shootout Day always brings family memories. My dad, UC '50, went to school with Tay Baker and remembered the good old days when the schools played twice a year. Dad, having received a good education, sent the kids to Xavier! I, XU '75, was also with Tay during his coaching years, and will always remember the surreal ambiance of a jam packed Schmidt.

Call it Classic, a Shootout whatever, but it is a very special tradition that I hope will long continue.
Everyone enjoy and Go X!

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[Xville]

Gawd does uc effing suck.

[American X]

Xavier looks sharper than a Swiss Army Knife.

[xu82]

Gawd does uc effing suck.

Bills fan here to suggest we wait until it’s over. I’ve learned that lesson the hard way too many times. :-)


But yeah…….

[GoMuskies]

Gawd does uc effing suck.

We're throwing some rocks ourselves.

[Xville]

Bills fan here to suggest we wait until it’s over. I’ve learned that lesson the hard way too many times. :-)


But yeah…….

Nothing is going to change the fact that uc sucks. Even if a miracle happened and uc won this game, they’d still be terrible

[UCGRAD4X]

Even on their best day, UC sucks.

Final Answer.

[GoMuskies]

Bold lineup choices

[American X]

Cesare and Craft in together is an interesting holiday mix. You knew Cesare was going to jack a shot.

[xudash]

Why would Edwards think that he is cleared to shoot a 3 in this game?

[GoMuskies]

Why would Edwards think that he is cleared to shoot a 3 in this game?

Or any game

[GoMuskies]

Since 13-1 we've mostly been pretty pedestrian.

[UCGRAD4X]

Boum does not really have much of a left hand, but it doesn't seem to matter much. That was a really sweet little flip-up from the left side.

[American X]

Why would Edwards think that he is cleared to shoot a 3 in this game?

Why would you think Edwards is going to think? Aesop's fable element here...

[GoMuskies]

Scott Softerfield. What a doosh.

[UCGRAD4X]

Since 13-1 we've mostly been pretty pedestrian.

Last stat had only 1 point advantage in FG%.

[bobbiemcgee]

Sou Souley Boum. Souley, Souley. Souley Boum.

[HenryMuto]

Great 1st half !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[xudash]

Obviously, they need to keep up with this level of intensity and execution, but they need to come out in the first five minutes of the second half and just clamp down on these losers. Make the student section leave early. Game over.

[American X]

That first half was like going to Christmas party and being greeted with an unlimited flow of a good IPA and a great small batch bourbon.

[xu82]

This almost makes up for the pain of watching the last few years. It’s hard to believe this is mostly the same guys with a few excellent additions. I’m OK with running this up a bit. We deserve it!

[xu82]

That first half was like going to Christmas party and being greeted with an unlimited flow of a good IPA and a great small batch bourbon.


And when we showed up, we found UC had beaten us there, and they were a few beers and shots ahead. The only lead they get all day!

These ESPN announcers are pretty forgettable (like most of ESPN), but I’m too lazy to try to line up Joe and Byron. I have actually never heard them do a game, but hear nothing but good reports.


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[noteggs]

Yes time put them away and stomp on them!

[UCGRAD4X]

Considering X had a pretty good scoring drought there at about the midpoint - could easily stretch this lead.

"Our Miller can beat up your Miller!"

[Blue Blooded-05]

Wes Miller stole Steele's offensive gameplan. Dribble down the shot clock above the 3-point line then jack up a contested fade away 23-footer.

[UCGRAD4X]

Jack and Zach on the floor a bunch. But they can't get those close shots. Those should be layups for these guys.

[HenryMuto]

Horrible start to the 2nd half losing this one would be tough to take considering up 17 at the half.

[GoMuskies]

Absolute garbage start to the second half. Pitiful

[bjf123]

Whole new ballgame now.


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[noteggs]

That is not the stomp I was looking for…

[xudash]

Jack and Zach on the floor a bunch. But they can't get those close shots. Those should be layups for these guys.

Yep. Missing at point blank range in this game ends up putting you in a place where you only have a nine point lead and with the crowd back in it.

[GoMuskies]

Also, the defense is real bad.

[whopper]

lakin is allowed to dribble too much in lane..need help

[xu82]

I’m thinking Sean is using this timeout to say more meaningful things than Travis ever had to offer. Let’s get this back into double digits and step on their throats!

[noteggs]

Also, the defense is real bad.

Back to our old self

[xudash]

Wake up Colby!

[Blue Blooded-05]

Great set play out of the timeout. Forgot coaches do that kind of thing

[xu82]

Great set play out of the timeout. Forgot coaches do that kind of thing

Just the good ones……

[GoMuskies]

Great set play out of the timeout. Forgot coaches do that kind of thing

Ran the same play earlier in the game but Kunkel just overshot Nunge the first time.

[noteggs]

I’m thinking Sean is using this timeout to say more meaningful things than Travis ever had to offer. Let’s get this back into double digits and step on their throats!

Just glad he’s in the huddle. The other guy would spend half the time looking at analytics

[GoMuskies]

We uglying it up! In a good way.

[xudash]

Solid response. Six straight points.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Great steal by Boum. Got momentum back on our side. Wish we could sign him up to a long term contract!

[noteggs]

What ever it takes

[UCGRAD4X]

Winning ugly is ok by me.

[GoMuskies]

Our defense is so awful

[HenryMuto]

Damn had it back up to 13 and now back to 7 going to be a tough one to hold on to win

[noteggs]

Kyky on Nolley isn’t ideal

[xu82]

This is a lot less fun than it used to be. Let Sean work some magic and get the focus back.

[boozehound]

Colby looks out of sync and Freemantle’s defense blows.

[IM4X]

Out bigs are still abysmal in the paint on defense.

Some of our guards are making bad decisions in this second half of the second half.

[American X]

Why play not KyKy a second until now and he immediately bricks a three?

[GoMuskies]

Can we get Darin Horn over here to coach some defense?

[Blue Blooded-05]

This is getting concerning. Too much guard play. Need to work it back down low like we did in the first half to open up the outside.

[IM4X]

Some strange decisions at odd times by Miller this game. Could have put this game away in the first half had he not subbed in some yougins’ that allowed a big lead turn into a manageable one for UC.

[xu82]

Hunter doing what Hunter should be doing.

[GoMuskies]

Hunter doing what Hunter should be doing.

You were saying?

[IM4X]

Why is Hunter shooting a three coach!

[xu82]

Hunter doing what Hunter should be doing.

And then he launches a 3……

[bjf123]

Hunter doing what Hunter should be doing.

Taking ill advised threes?


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[UCGRAD4X]

And just like that a Hunter three attempt turns into a runout slam.

[American X]

Damnit, I knew The Jerome Hunter Three Point Experience was coming, but it lead to UC cutting the lead to 5.

[boozehound]

Nunge has a real fucking problem with missing bunnies.

[GoMuskies]

Where is the NIT being played this year?

[IM4X]

We are playing like whimps. There is not a soul in the middle. What a joke.

[Xville]

I’m sos sick of nunge’s weak sauce. You are fucking seven feet tall.

Uc is terrible, what an awful second half

[IM4X]

Solid first half. We are playing like crap this half. I love Sean, but part of this becoming a close game is on him.

[xudash]

I count at least eight points left at the rim. How did Nunge miss that?

Free throws from here on in.

[xu82]

Taking ill advised threes?


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No, the put back at the rim. My bad, should have avoided the jinx. I thought he was “fixed” there for a moment.

[xu82]

FT’s could be HUGE, and I like this years options at guard. Boum > Paul.

[GoMuskies]

Ok, this feels better. A couple of stops and this is over.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Great answer! We got this! C'mon X finish strong!!

[xudash]

F’n yes!

[GoMuskies]

A stop next possession will break them.

[boozehound]

Interesting timeout by UC there.

[GoMuskies]

Just can't get the finisher stop.

[xu82]

Interesting timeout by UC there.

Set up the pressure. Beat that, make FT’s, go home happy.

[boozehound]

Nunge is such a pussy sometimes.

[IM4X]

Why the heck is Nunge taking threes!!!!

[GoMuskies]

We are not good.

[IM4X]

Tell the damn bigs inside coach!

[Xville]

Nunge is such a pussy sometimes.

I agree. This team would be pretty poor without him because our frontcourt is kind of garbage, but he’s the weakest big man I have seen in a really long time.

[American X]

Why exactly is Nunge taking a 3 the shot when running out the clock?

[xu82]

Glad to have Boum and Kunkel out there in this kind of situation.

[GoMuskies]

Lol. What a joke we are.

[Blue Blooded-05]

You have got to be kidding me

[HenryMuto]

no FN way

[xu82]

I hope I don’t vomit…….

[BillikenMusketeer]

What a joke

[IM4X]

This game should not even have been close. What a Joke!

Please own this one Sean. You are a hell of a coach - but not tonight!

[HenryMuto]

OK this is simple make the first FT then miss the 2nd one.

Make that 1st FT miss the 2nd and game is over

[American X]

Hi Sean, don't play a fucking freshman at crunch time.

[HenryMuto]

Please miss the FT off the rim and game is over they have no timeouts

[xudash]

Hi Sean, don't play a fucking freshman at crunch time.

Ditto that!

Have Claude walk back to campus and think about it.

[HenryMuto]

He better be telling him to miss the FT

[GoMuskies]

Some of us have X -2 asshole! :)

[paulxu]

That's on Sean to tell him to miss.

[xu82]

Some of us have X -2 asshole! :)

I’m glad that’s not MY problem!

[HenryMuto]

Is ESPN wrong they say they have no timeouts

[Xville]

That was effing pathetic. I have been convinced that this team would be a tournament team since Sean took over, but I’m not as confident anymore. We are extremely weak in the frontcourt and do the stupidest shit sometimes

[BillikenMusketeer]

It says they dont have a time out

[paulxu]

Oh, I thought UC was out of time outs?

[Blue Blooded-05]

I thought they didn't have a timeout?? He clearly tried to miss that shot so apparently Sean thought the same thing

[paulxu]

Is there a Butler guy at the scorer's table.

[HenryMuto]

This is BS if they have a timeout how can ESPN be wrong on that it is a kind of a big thing. He wouldn't have missed on purpose if they had a timeout.

[GoMuskies]

Ha, free timeout.

[GoMuskies]

Techs to win my bet!

[paulxu]

Ah

[HenryMuto]

Well that was smart by Cincy they would have not had any chance now has a small chance to tie it. Give that coach credit for calling the timeout it was their only hope.

[BillikenMusketeer]

Jeeze I thought I was crazy, glad they noticed the extra timeout called

[paulxu]

Okey Dokey

[GoMuskies]

Well that was smart by Cincy they would have not had any chance now has a small chance to tie it. Give that coach credit for calling the timeout it was their only hope.

I give him a TON of credit! Lol

[xu82]

This has been a wonderful educational experience.

According to ESPN the excessive timeout FT’s were a big deal. That is the analysis I have come to expect from them.

[IM4X]

a win but a Horrible- horrible second half.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Can't say I have seen a team use a technical for a free timeout. Basically he traded a chance to win with a full court shot to tie? Interesting. Guess he was banking on a missed FT?

Vegas is pissed with the 2.5 spread haha

[HenryMuto]

The announcers are dumb "hate to see it end that way" they knew they had to call timeout it actually gave them a chance to win or tie it when they had no chance. Had he missed 1 of the FT's they would had a chance to win and even with him making both gave them a shot to tie it where otherwise it was a 80 foot fling for the win.

[UCGRAD4X]

Their Miller sucked more than our Miller today.

[xu82]

Jeeze I thought I was crazy, glad they noticed the extra timeout called


To be fair, you STILL may be crazy, but THAT isn’t why. :-)


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[HenryMuto]

Can't say I have seen a team use a technical for a free timeout. Basically he traded a chance to win with a full court shot to tie? Interesting. Guess he was banking on a missed FT

I used to see this happen a lot back in the 80s because if you scored with less than 5 seconds left on the clock it was still a running clock and teams wouldn't have to even inbound it. So when a team would score to cut lead to 1 or 2 with less than 5 seconds left they call a timeout they don't have give up the Tech FT's but it kept the clocking from running out.

People no longer do this because it is a stopped clock but this was 1 case it was right to do it when you have 1 second and have to go the length of the floor.

[Blue Blooded-05]

First time in Crosstown Shootout history that we've won 4 straight.

Had three straight wins 84-86, 07-09 and 13-15 but failed to win the fourth each time.

Gotta like our chances for five next year in our house

[GoMuskies]

Glad to beat UC, but we've got real issues.

[IM4X]

Their Miller sucked more than our Miller today.

Not sure even Sean would agree with that one- our guys are much more talented. Much of it is on them, but Sean really did a lot to help allow this game become closer than it had to be. I would be very surprised if he did not own a bit of the reason for the close game.

[X Factor]

It's a rivalry game on the road. Yeah, X played liked ass in the 2nd half, but we won. 4 in a row!!! When's the last time either team won 4 in a row?

Still haven't played 2 good halves of defense.

[UCGRAD4X]

You really think calling that timeout was the right call? Sending Boum to the line? What did they gain? They had a half-court shot to win. Inbounding it full court, without even being able to run the endline and try to tie. Maybe he figured they would put Claude in to foul the three point shooter.

[JAPER]

Sitting in traffic with acidic burning feeling…

[noteggs]

Zach Free first player to win 4 in a row.

Include Miles and Tandy if you include red shirt years. Assuming Kyky will get one or has one?

[xukeith]

They get to inbound the ball and catch and shoot as opposed to launching it from X free-throw line.

[Roach]

I don’t like to pay UC any compliments, but DeJulius played like a boss in the last 5 minutes, with a sh*t ton of luck on that 4-point play to boot. X played like ass in the second half, yes, but UC was markedly better than in the first half.

[UCGRAD4X]

There were 3s by Hunter and Tandy and one unnecessary one by Nunge that almost sunk the ship. I'm hoping Miller brings out the big stick. Hunter and Tandy will never learn.

[Masterofreality]

That's 4 in a row Brothers. This SucKS Senior class never saw a win vs Xavier. Too bad!!

It’s 5:38pm on December 22,2022 and uc Still Sucks!!

[paulxu]

Apparently the guys in Vegas know basketball.

[xu82]

Just got it at -2. Literally think that line is insane. I know the computers say that’s right in line but think those are insane as well.

Sounds pretty close right now.

[xukeith]

X held UC to 7 made shots in 1st half. 2nd half: 20/30 That was insanely ugly. Where did that 1st half team go?

[XU_Lou]

There were 3s by Hunter and Tandy and one unnecessary one by Nunge that almost sunk the ship. I'm hoping Miller brings out the big stick. Hunter and Tandy will never learn.

Do not understand why Tandy feels the need to jack-up a three coming in cold off the bench all the time. He's been doing that for 3 years now. I think that's the reason he rarely gets extended playing time.

[xukeith]

Maybe Sean Miller should stick to a 7 man rotation.

He said in postgame that X was tired and worn down. So only have improved bench play or X is destined to lose.

[UCGRAD4X]

Maybe Sean Miller should stick to a 7 man rotation.

He said in postgame that X was tired and worn down. So only have improved bench play or X is destined to lose.

They haven't played for a week.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

I didn’t think the game would come down to the last shot to win. But, we won and continue the tradition. I am glad we don’t have to go to OT because UC did get hot in the 2nd half. X needs to get talented big players for next year……easier said than done, I know.

[stammina0721]

HeyguysAwinisawin. Was that painful to read? Cause that is how some of you make me feel when you complain after a win. In this game talent means nothing. Any dub is fine in my book. Just glad we were the ones up 17 at half and not the other way around trying to fight back. Enjoy a cold one tonight.

[UCGRAD4X]

HeyguysAwinisawin. Was that painful to read? Cause that is how some of you make me feel when you complain after a win. In this game talent means nothing. Any dub is fine in my book. Just glad we were the ones up 17 at half and not the other way around trying to fight back. Enjoy a cold one tonight.

I said earlier, I'm ok with an ugly win.

But I can still think they should have won pretty.

[xu82]

I said earlier, I'm ok with an ugly win.

But I can still think they should have won pretty.

This is the time of year for these types of challenges, both the wins and the losses. These are the moments Sean can use for teaching. Ramp up and peak late!!!

[OTRMUSKIE]

Whoever is complaining about this game obviously hasn’t been watching the shootout long. There was a reason the line was only 3.5. Rivalry games are sometimes ugly. The goal is to come out with a win. Give UC credit , they started making their shot and we missed. X is a top 20 team and will be dancing.

[XU_Lou]

HeyguysAwinisawin. Was that painful to read? Cause that is how some of you make me feel when you complain after a win. In this game talent means nothing. Any dub is fine in my book. Just glad we were the ones up 17 at half and not the other way around trying to fight back. Enjoy a cold one tonight.


Whoever is complaining about this game obviously hasn’t been watching the shootout long. There was a reason the line was only 3.5. Rivalry games are sometimes ugly. The goal is to come out with a win. Give UC credit , they started making their shot and we missed. X is a top 20 team and will be dancing.

Bingo!!!

[X-band '01]

I didn’t think the game would come down to the last shot to win. But, we won and continue the tradition. I am glad we don’t have to go to OT because UC did get hot in the 2nd half. X needs to get talented big players for next year……easier said than done, I know.

If that nightmare scenario had taken place, they would not have had Lahkin (who fouled out) but Souley Boum would have also been playing with 4 fouls.

But as much as X played with fire in the 2nd half, they always managed to get a hoop or draw a foul just about every time they absolutely had to have one. Definitely don't want to see many more defensive halves like the 2nd half.

[whopper]

i got out of car when Byron was going to declare player of game. My vote is Zach with 14, 12, 3 a 2 to 31 solid minutes and 90% positive. He takes a lot of heat here but with that poor man Hansborough type game during the season we will be in good shape. He probably was not Byron's choiice but I think he has a good case. Claude got a chance today to see his own funeral and then rise up like scrooge and i hope he takes it to heart. He is far and away the only choice not for 3rd guard and 15 min a game as i see Kunk and Boum (who on the street would be beasts) as slighlty smaller than avg Big East guards(with big hearts) but need to play 28 -30 tops

[Xville]

Whoever is complaining about this game obviously hasn’t been watching the shootout long. There was a reason the line was only 3.5. Rivalry games are sometimes ugly. The goal is to come out with a win. Give UC credit , they started making their shot and we missed. X is a top 20 team and will be dancing.

Ku is about to beat Mizzou by 20 and that line was Ku by 3. Sometimes Vegas is dumb. That rivalry is just as heated and Ku is taking care of business as they should. Glad for the win, but that 2nd half was pathetic.

Hopefully this is something to build on but geezus this team haa glaring issues.

[X-band '01]

That's what happens when you don't have Forrest Gump fans holding up a stop sign for Hunter. I immediately saw Miller point to the bench the second that happened from the nosebleeds.

And props to the Xavier fans who got in the building - as loud as the UC fans were, Xavier fans were equal to the task.

[xu82]

That's what happens when you don't have Forrest Gump fans holding up a stop sign for Hunter. I immediately saw Miller point to the bench the second that happened from the nosebleeds.

And props to the Xavier fans who got in the building - as loud as the UC fans were, Xavier fans were equal to the task.

AMEN to that! I was encouraged at times with the amount of pro XU noise.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Ku is about to beat Mizzou by 20 and that line was Ku by 3. Sometimes Vegas is dumb. That rivalry is just as heated and Ku is taking care of business as they should. Glad for the win, but that 2nd half was pathetic.

Hopefully this is something to build on but geezus this team haa glaring issues.

KU vs MIZZOU is not the same rivalry as the crosstown shootout and it’s not even close. Also, Kansas is just a tad better than X.

[Xavier]

Yeah it’s definitely not the same rivalry. Saw the Good and bad in this game. You take a road win against your rival but a tough second half. UC was going to make a run and momentum played a huge part. Just seems like X comes out slow to start second half all the time. Bad trend….a strong 2-3 min out of half and it’s a blow out.

[xukeith]

Thought first half defense and offense were solid. Maybe strongest defense of the year.
Sean M said he thought X was tired in 2nd half and X needs better bench play to carry forward consistent defense.

Hunter was solid, Claude was good except that foul he committed late 2nd half.
Edwards showed hustle and maybe has replaced Miles. X bench is X 's weakness.

[Xville]

KU vs MIZZOU is not the same rivalry as the crosstown shootout and it’s not even close. Also, Kansas is just a tad better than X.

Everyone outside of a uc-xu fan would agree with you, ku and Mizzou is way bigger.

Your rationale for that crap performance in the 2nd half was because it was a rivalry game, and Vegas set the line at 3.5. I just gave you a rivalry game with the same line that ended the way it should.

[noteggs]

Cut uc’s lead of victories to 51-38. Soooo this means we should pass them in year 2036?

[Xavier]

Everyone outside of a uc-xu fan would agree with you, ku and Mizzou is way bigger.

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Is it really? Kansas mizzou bball is a bigger national game than X UC? I admittedly have the glasses on but always feel like when talking top bball rivalries it’s Duke/UNC at the top then X/UC getting mentioned with a few others in the next tier. Haven’t seen Kansas mizzou much but again I’m not exactly looking for it.


Regardless I agree, it being a rivalry game is just an excuse for a poor second half. Still up 10 with what 2.5 min left? Like I said before though- I take the win and move on.

[Xville]

Is it really? Kansas mizzou bball is a bigger national game than X UC? I admittedly have the glasses on but always feel like when talking top bball rivalries it’s Duke/UNC at the top then X/UC getting mentioned with a few others in the next tier. Haven’t seen Kansas mizzou much but again I’m not exactly looking for it.


Regardless I agree, it being a rivalry game is just an excuse for a poor second half. Still up 10 with what 2.5 min left? Like I said before though- I take the win and move on.

I think so. I mean people outside Cincinnati didn’t even know who Xavier was 25 years ago, obviously people know who they are now but Missouri-Kansas are big state schools with national reach that have had a rivalry since the civil war.

I’m just starting to see the same issues come up again and again outside of the buy games and it’s concerning moving forward when x goes into conference. The big East doesn’t seem to be a monster this year but I’ll guarantee that about 7 or 8 of them are better than uc.

[X Factor]

I think so. I mean people outside Cincinnati didn’t even know who Xavier was 25 years ago, obviously people know who they are now but Missouri-Kansas are big state schools with national reach that have had a rivalry since the civil war.

I’m just starting to see the same issues come up again and again outside of the buy games and it’s concerning moving forward when x goes into conference. The big East doesn’t seem to be a monster this year but I’ll guarantee that about 7 or 8 of them are better than uc.

Purdue had to win in overtime against Nebraska today, a team I would compare to UC.

Yes, X has defensive issues. They CAN play good defense...we've seen it during stretches, but they can't sustain that defense over 40 minutes.

However, I'm still confident Sean will get them to play better defense.

[_LH]

Love beating UC.

[bobbiemcgee]

They never led.

[XU_Lou]

What the hell is wrong with people who can't enjoy a win over our most hated rival? The perma-negativity about individual players is getting real old....

[bobbiemcgee]

Sean presser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-sPb3Omn4c

[Xavier]

What the hell is wrong with people who can't enjoy a win over our most hated rival? The perma-negativity about individual players is getting real old....

I go back and forth. Enjoy the victories- especially over UC. First half was awesome, we were a machine. If we can play like that I think we can legitimately win the big East. Then we see the second half and You see the issues. My first thought after the game is winning this way is ok because it is an opportunity for Sean to lay into the team despite a win….but I’ve felt that way a few times already this year.

I think we have a team that can actually make real noise in March but could lose in the play in game too. Rambling a bit but there are highs and lows with this team….thank God we have boum. Could you imagine?

[XU_Lou]

I go back and forth. Enjoy the victories- especially over UC. First half was awesome, we were a machine. If we can play like that I think we can legitimately win the big East. Then we see the second half and You see the issues. My first thought after the game is winning this way is ok because it is an opportunity for Sean to lay into the team despite a win….but I’ve felt that way a few times already this year.

I think we have a team that can actually make real noise in March but could lose in the play in game too. Rambling a bit but there are highs and lows with this team….thank God we have boum. Could you imagine?

Honestly, I think we have a pretty damn good team. If past is prologue, Sean's teams always get better as the season progresses. You can't have a team that is peaking during the entire season.

Moreover, this was a highly emotional rivalry game. Stats and team records mean almost absolutely nothing in this series. See 1996 - and 1999, when UC was highly favored to win it all that year.

[xudash]

What the hell is wrong with people who can't enjoy a win over our most hated rival? The perma-negativity about individual players is getting real old....

Totally agree.

We were at their place, and it was rocking, with them wanting a victory badly and not wanting us to go to 4 straight victories over them, not to mention what we have done to them over the last 25 years.

Did we have problems with how the second-half played out overall? Absolutely. But, did we have a response? Well, how about this (from this evening’s write up from the paper):

“In the span of 58 seconds, Xavier went on an 8-0 run that started with a 3-pointer from Jack Nunge off a perfect pass from Colby Jones. The Musketeers followed that up with a steal from Zach Freemantle, who got fouled, went to the line and hit both free throws. On the next possession, Adam Kunkel stole a UC pass in the corner and at the other end, Jones drove it, made the layup, drew a foul and hit the free throw to put the Musketeers ahead 74-63 with 3:42 to play.”

Claude will learn from his boneheaded play, but had he not made that mistake, the game was over with a 4-point lead at 17 seconds left.

[drudy23]

Honestly, I think we have a pretty damn good team. If past is prologue, Sean's teams always get better as the season progresses. You can't have a team that is peaking during the entire season.

Moreover, this was a highly emotional rivalry game. Stats and team records mean almost absolutely nothing in this series. See 1996 - and 1999, when UC was highly favored to win it all that year.

As of right now, we're a solid 30-35th in the country - better than most but not even close to the elite teams. We can beat them on a given day, but there are some holes (depth) that might be exposed. Have to continue to develop the young guys to give this team some depth.

[Cincypunk.org]

I love how “fans” are calling Nunge a pussy, the weakest big man we have had in a long time, and questioning him shooting threes.

He is averaging 15.5 pong, shooting 42% from 3, and averages 7 boards a game.

Some of you all expect perfection and it is laughable.

[Cincypunk.org]

I love how “fans” are calling Nunge a pussy, the weakest big man we have had in a long time, and questioning him shooting threes.

He is averaging 15.5 pong, shooting 42% from 3, and averages 7 boards a game.

Some of you all expect perfection and it is laughable.

[Cincypunk.org]

I love how “fans” are calling Nunge a pussy, the weakest big man we have had in a long time, and questioning him shooting threes.

He is averaging 15.5 pong, shooting 42% from 3, and averages 7 boards a game.

Some of you all expect perfection and it is laughable.

[Cincypunk.org]

I just posted many times in a row.

You can’t expect perfection �� lol

[xukeith]

What I don't understand is Miller's rationale for why X played so poorly in 2nd half.
He said X looked worn out. Maybe they did get tired but how do very good teams play hard in second half?
2 players off bench got starters off the court for any meaningful minutes.

X had a week off for the game. Tired? These guys are in top elite shape . Is the solution for X to play a ton of guys off bench in 1st half
and then be able to play a strong second half?

[Xville]

Love when fans tell other fans how they should fan—awesome. I’m critical of that second half because when I start seeing the same crap happen every game, and haven’t been to the tournament in a few years, it’s a bit concerning. We have miller so I know the team should get a bit better when the calendar Flips and on into march, but gotta remember that these are not his guys. He’s not able to mold them as much.

Miller knows basketball, so I’ll trust what he said in the press conference, but I don’t really get it either. These guys are 18-22 year olds… maybe he is speaking specifically about the frontcourt since they rarely get any kind of break.

Happy for the win and think this team is a 3rd or 4th in the big East which should be enough for an invite.

[X-band '01]

Is there a reason Xavier is playing Southern during finals week this year? Or did the players get to skip the line and take their finals ahead of time?

My initial thought was finals was last week leading up to the UC game - apparently not.

[American X]

That was like going to an office Christmas party with an awesome open bar then a couple hours in you suddenly had to talk seriously with the boss for a few minutes (then boss leaves and you drink the place dry).

[bleedXblue]

I was blown away by the horrible D in the second half. Almost zero ball pressure and we played soft the whole way. Give UC credit, they took advantage.

Where was Miller's TO after we went up 4 with less than 10 seconds left?

First time I have questioned how he coached the game. He was not great yesterday.

[Masterofreality]

What the hell is wrong with people who can't enjoy a win over our most hated rival? The perma-negativity about individual players is getting real old....

Exactly!
People this was a true road game vs a hated rival who is always tough to beat! Do you think SucKS would have taken a 3 point win at Xavier any year they played including the years they were Number 1? Hell yeah they would!!
These are college basketball players that went into a cauldron of disdain and WON! Like ya say in golf, it’s not HOW, but HOW MANY!
Xavier had more. They won. Case Closed.

[Xavier]

They did look tired in the second half. That’s where I think the intensity of the rivalry shows, IMO. I’m not sold they can’t play with elite teams, unless of course you don’t consider Gonzaga or Duke elite- and they may not be. (Top 10 teams. I think zags could be but not sold on Duke). They can score with everyone but can’t trust them to get key stops so while X can play with almost everyone unless elite teams miss shots it will be tough to get the W

[Xavier]

I was blown away by the horrible D in the second half. Almost zero ball pressure and we played soft the whole way. Give UC credit, they took advantage.

Where was Miller's TO after we went up 4 with less than 10 seconds left?

First time I have questioned how he coached the game. He was not great yesterday.

UC didn’t have any time outs left, why would you give them a chance to set up a play or go over strategy and get everyone on same page?

[Xville]

What’s really concerning to me is that against:

Florida
Uc
Duke
Gonzaga
Wvu

X has lost the first 4 minute war in the second half. In a couple of those games, x has obviously gotten away with it, but to me that is highly concerning moving forward.

[bleedXblue]

UC didn’t have any time outs left, why would you give them a chance to set up a play or go over strategy and get everyone on same page?

To get everyone on the same page and avoid making a bad decision and fouling a 3 PT shooter maybe?

[Xavier]

What’s really concerning to me is that against:

Florida
Uc
Duke
Gonzaga
Wvu

X has lost the first 4 minute war in the second half. In a couple of those games, x has obviously gotten away with it, but to me that is highly concerning moving forward.

That’s exactly what I said. How are we coming out so flat then having to fight back. Yesterday had the chance to go for the kill. You win that war and it’s over. Only chance UC had was to win that and hope momentum would carry them and that’s exactly what happened.

[Xavier]

To get everyone on the same page and avoid making a bad decision and fouling a 3 PT shooter maybe?

Dumb mistake from a freshman. X had the upper hand I don’t want to bail other team out there.

[bleedXblue]

That’s exactly what I said. How are we coming out so flat then having to fight back. Yesterday had the chance to go for the kill. You win that war and it’s over. Only chance UC had was to win that and hope momentum would carry them and that’s exactly what happened.

Played like they were up 17 and let the foot of the gas pedal. Most alarming was the D. Just no sense of urgency and let UC run their offense without any ball pressure, change to a zone for few possessions, whatever. We won, Im happy but I certainly dont like the trend thats developing.

[bleedXblue]

Yep I know. Get him out and get your vets on the floor and get everyone on the same page.

[Masterofreality]

That’s exactly what I said. How are we coming out so flat then having to fight back. Yesterday had the chance to go for the kill. You win that war and it’s over. Only chance UC had was to win that and hope momentum would carry them and that’s exactly what happened.

Sean addressed that with Joe & Byron.
We had the opening posession and worked a perfect play to Free who missed a two foot bunny and started hanging his head. Two more possessions and same result after good shots that were missed. As Sean said, they started tying their defense to their offense and it snowballed. Then, on top of it, Sean trying to get bench guys in the game multiplied the problem because they abjectly sucked. KyKy had the worst 25 seconds of playing time I’ve ever seen. Claude and Hunter regressed in the second half.
Finally, in answer to someone on here asking how the team could be tired, A) Boum played all but 42 seconds of this game. B) Do you not understand the extra stress of big games? Like how come an Elite MLB pitcher who routinely throws 7-9 innings in regular season can only go 5-6 in the Playoffs?
That questioning of Sean as to his “tired” comment is ludicrous.
Look, even Sean isn’t perfect and every move won’t work out, but I respect and like that he’s giving the bench guys, even Cesare Edwards, a chance to perform in this game rather than have them rot on the bench like the former guy did.

[XUGRAD80]

MOR, you’re completely correct here. It is very important that, even if there is a fall off in offense and defense, that the subs get SOME minutes. Fatigue can’t be deadly for a team, especially later in the season. Not only do players not play well when tired, they are also more susceptible to injury. In addition, the only way to develop backups is to let them play. You can only do so much in practice. I’d rather that the subs get some playing time now, than to wait until they are really needed because a starter is injured. Just have to hope that the starters can overcome the problems that the subs leave them with, and that the subs will stop making the same mistakes over and over as they get more playing experience.

[X-band '01]

Friday's going to be the more telling day to see how the bench responds under pressure. That will be the next road game (albeit with a much smaller and quieter Georgetown crowd). As bad and horrible as Georgetown has been the past two years, they are overdue for their own breakout game. Just hoping Xavier's trip to DC isn't that breakout game.

[Smails]

What’s really concerning to me is that against:

Florida
Uc
Duke
Gonzaga
Wvu

X has lost the first 4 minute war in the second half. In a couple of those games, x has obviously gotten away with it, but to me that is highly concerning moving forward.

I would consider it highly concerning if we were 0-5 in those games versus 3-2. Those other teams have players on scholarships too, not to mention 2 hall of fame coaches and one of the most storied programs in the history of basketball. It's a 50/50 proposition to win the first 4 minutes of the second half and if you look at the names on that list, it's not exactly a bunch of schleps..

[Xville]

I would consider it highly concerning if we were 0-5 in those games versus 3-2. Those other teams have players on scholarships too, not to mention 2 hall of fame coaches and one of the most storied programs in the history of basketball. It's a 50/50 proposition to win the first 4 minutes of the second half and if you look at the names on that list, it's not exactly a bunch of schleps..

It’s concerning because of what that means for conference. The three teams they beat are worse than the top 5 or 6 in the big East. Not going to be able to get away with that stuff on the road in conference.

I’m convinced that miller is going to get this team better, but there are glaring issues and that is one of them along with defense, bench depth.

I still think it’s a tournament team, but there is a lot of scar tissue and ptsd from the last four years.

[Masterofreality]

It’s concerning because of what that means for conference. The three teams they beat are worse than the top 5 or 6 in the big East. Not going to be able to get away with that stuff on the road in conference.

I’m convinced that miller is going to get this team better, but there are glaring issues and that is one of them along with defense, bench depth.

I still think it’s a tournament team, but there is a lot of scar tissue and ptsd from the last four years.

“Worse than the top 5 or 6?” Who are you seeing?
Maybe the Top 2- UConn & Creighton- and Creighton has just lost 4 in a row!

[Xavier]

Yeah, I think X has a better chance to finish 2nd in the big East than 5th.

[xukeith]

Sean addressed that with Joe & Byron.
We had the opening posession and worked a perfect play to Free who missed a two foot bunny and started hanging his head. Two more possessions and same result after good shots that were missed. As Sean said, they started tying their defense to their offense and it snowballed. Then, on top of it, Sean trying to get bench guys in the game multiplied the problem because they abjectly sucked. KyKy had the worst 25 seconds of playing time I’ve ever seen. Claude and Hunter regressed in the second half.
Finally, in answer to someone on here asking how the team could be tired, A) Boum played all but 42 seconds of this game. B) Do you not understand the extra stress of big games? Like how come an Elite MLB pitcher who routinely throws 7-9 innings in regular season can only go 5-6 in the Playoffs?
That questioning of Sean as to his “tired” comment is ludicrous.
Look, even Sean isn’t perfect and every move won’t work out, but I respect and like that he’s giving the bench guys, even Cesare Edwards, a chance to perform in this game rather than have them rot on the bench like the former guy did.

Is Tucker rotting on the bench?

[Masterofreality]

Is Tucker rotting on the bench?

Tucker reportedly from solid sources, has not been able to grog the new system well- especially defensively. That is why he is behind most others. He’s not rotting but unable to be trusted. The hope is he can get some solid time on Tuesday.

[Xville]

“Worse than the top 5 or 6?” Who are you seeing?
Maybe the Top 2- UConn & Creighton- and Creighton has just lost 4 in a row!

When Moore comes back for nova, x and honestly I hate to say it but I think butler. I just don’t think uc, wvu or Florida are any good.

In regards to big east, I think x grabs 3rd or 4th. I think uconn will dominate the conference and then there will be 3 or 4 teams battling for 2nd

[xuwillie]

When Moore comes back for nova, x and honestly I hate to say it but I think butler. I just don’t think uc, wvu or Florida are any good.

In regards to big east, I think x grabs 3rd or 4th. I think uconn will dominate the conference and then there will be 3 or 4 teams battling for 2nd

I see X coming In 4th place but it won’t be easy. This team still has so many holes it’s hard to see them being consistent when big east play starts

[Roach]

What I don't understand is Miller's rationale for why X played so poorly in 2nd half. He said X looked worn out.

If I’m not mistaken, they’re in the middle of finals. That could explain it.

[drudy23]

I see X coming In 4th place but it won’t be easy. This team still has so many holes it’s hard to see them being consistent when big east play starts

I could see anywhere from 2nd - 6th, honestly. If our bench improves, the higher the ceiling.

I fear guys like Nunge and Boum are gonna be gassed by February.

Boum is probably our most important player because he sets the tempo so well - Jones up there too because you know, he's a swiss army knife.

[Xavier]

Do not understand why Tandy feels the need to jack-up a three coming in cold off the bench all the time. He's been doing that for 3 years now. I think that's the reason he rarely gets extended playing time.

That’s kind of why he gets playing time. He is a shooter- I hate when a guy who gets limited minutes gets called on but is to hesitant to do his role. When edwards got in- I was happy to see him shoot the open 3. He missed but that’s what his main role would be (shoot-spread floor a little).

As for Kyky- even I expect more out of him. To drudy point we really need depth and someone that can spell boum. Kyky should’ve been that guy but for whatever reason can’t seem to carve out any sort of roll against better teams. Claude will have to continue to grow, he is a freshman but I’ve seen good things from with some obvious freshman mistakes.

[XU_Lou]

That’s kind of why he gets playing time. He is a shooter- I hate when a guy who gets limited minutes gets called on but is to hesitant to do his role. When edwards got in- I was happy to see him shoot the open 3. He missed but that’s what his main role would be (shoot-spread floor a little).

As for Kyky- even I expect more out of him. To drudy point we really need depth and someone that can spell boum. Kyky should’ve been that guy but for whatever reason can’t seem to carve out any sort of roll against better teams. Claude will have to continue to grow, he is a freshman but I’ve seen good things from with some obvious freshman mistakes.

No doubt that KyKy has the talent - my point is that he seems to take a shot the very first time he touches the ball when coming in off the bench. It seems to me he should wait just a little to get into the flow before taking 3s. The fact that he seems to inevitably get yanked from the line-up shortly afterwards (over the past 3 years), leads me to believe that his coaches don't want him to do that. This, in-turn, seems to impact his self confidence, thus fewer minutes as the season progresses.

[Jumpin_Jamal_Forever]

Miller's Pressers are always so on point. He keeps pounding on the same two issues addressed in this thread; our lost defense coming out halftime and our bench.

"We had a couple of guys (referring to bench play) who tried to do things we aren't asking them to do" Tandy and Edwards both launched three balls within seconds of entering the game and both exited quickly.

When I see Miller's bulldogged attitude on defense (he just isn't going to let that bone go) I feel more positive about the upcoming conference schedule. Players who don't get his message aren't going to make it off the bench. I think we have probably seen the last Jerome Hunter three-ball with time left on the shot clock. Probably same with Tandy, from whom we need more effective minutes, so Boum doesn't wear down.

The bench players are going to get plenty of minutes next Tuesday. Then begins the most important three months in Xavier basketball in the last five years. Would really love to see a top three finish in the Big East. I think it do-able if the players get Miller's message.

[xukeith]

Miller's Pressers are always so on point. He keeps pounding on the same two issues addressed in this thread; our lost defense coming out halftime and our bench.

"We had a couple of guys (referring to bench play) who tried to do things we aren't asking them to do" Tandy and Edwards both launched three balls within seconds of entering the game and both exited quickly.

When I see Miller's bulldogged attitude on defense (he just isn't going to let that bone go) I feel more positive about the upcoming conference schedule. Players who don't get his message aren't going to make it off the bench. I think we have probably seen the last Jerome Hunter three-ball with time left on the shot clock. Probably same with Tandy, from whom we need more effective minutes, so Boum doesn't wear down.

The bench players are going to get plenty of minutes next Tuesday. Then begins the most important three months in Xavier basketball in the last five years. Would really love to see a top three finish in the Big East. I think it do-able if the players get Miller's message.

Call me impatient but defense sure takes time.

[Masterofreality]

Call me impatient but defense sure takes time.

It does when your defensive teaching has been trash for 3 years.

[IM4X]

I was blown away by the horrible D in the second half. Almost zero ball pressure and we played soft the whole way. Give UC credit, they took advantage.

Where was Miller's TO after we went up 4 with less than 10 seconds left?

First time I have questioned how he coached the game. He was not great yesterday.


Yes. Credit to UC players for digging deep and playing their tails off in the second half. Still, X was way too sloppy in the second half. They made many poor decisions: got away from what was working, forced some really bad shots (which they did not do in the first half) and gave up on playing defense in the paint.

There’s nothing wrong with pointing out that a good team and a very good coach had a lousy second half. Yes, this game is a little different. Still, to be thrilled that X squeaked out a victory against a far inferior opponent (after they were blowing out that team in the first half) doesn’t seem to be a natural feeling. If this team plays like they did in the second half against most BE teams, it will end up being a loss.

Had Steele coached this same team with the same results, so many more on this board would be ripping him a new one. I have loved everything Sean has said and up until the second half of the UC game. We are so fortunate to have him, but part of last nights poor play in the second half is on him as well as the players. In the second half, X looked about as bad as the team that was coached by Travis last year (i.e. the team that played before the NIT game). X bigs went from playing tough in the first half to barely defending in the second.

It was the first game this season where I questioned the personnel on the floor (several younger/inexperienced players inserted at the same time in the first half) and the decision in the second half to leave tired players in the game (who then turned the ball over, forced bad shots, struggled to play defense) as well as the decision not to call quicker timeouts.

We did get the win - and I am proud of our fellas for holding onto the victory, but holy sh!+ was that a hot mess we saw out there playing for most of the second half. UC is a mediocre team and better adjustments should have been made.

In the first half, we saw an X team that looked like it could compete for a National Championship. In the second half, we saw a team that looked like they’d struggle to make it into the NIT. That should be both encouraging and freaking alarming.

[xudash]

I am going to come at this from perhaps a slightly different take and within a very narrow focus.

First and foremost, this game took place at their place, and they were amped to end our win streak against them. More to the point, Kenyon Martin went into their locker room at half time, and essentially ripped them all a new asshole, and injected them with gobs of adrenaline for the second half. It wasn’t going to take much, mistake wise, for them to find a bit of a groove and make a run at us.

They were able to put us on our heels, all the way to cutting the lead to three points at around the five minute mark. Then, Nunge goes down and sinks a 3 and we move forward to build back to an 11 point lead.

I absolutely agree about the defense. No excuses.

But they did fight back. UC was not going to give up even then. I have to believe that along the way for the rest of his life, Desmond is going to wake up in the middle of the night, reliving that stupid foul from time to time.

BTW, remember when Quentin Gooden missed free throws against Texas during that NIT attempt? Thank God for Boum.

[nickgyp]

I am going to come at this from perhaps a slightly different take and within a very narrow focus.

First and foremost, this game took place at their place, and they were amped to end our win streak against them. More to the point, Kenyon Martin went into their locker room at half time, and essentially ripped them all a new asshole, and injected them with gobs of adrenaline for the second half. It wasn’t going to take much, mistake wise, for them to find a bit of a groove and make a run at us.

They were able to put us on our heels, all the way to cutting the lead to three points at around the five minute mark. Then, Nunge goes down and sinks a 3 and we move forward to build back to an 11 point lead.

I absolutely agree about the defense. No excuses.

But they did fight back. UC was not going to give up even then. I have to believe that along the way for the rest of his life, Desmond is going to wake up in the middle of the night, reliving that stupid foul from time to time.

BTW, remember when Quentin Gooden missed free throws against Texas during that NIT attempt? Thank God for Boum.

Good teams find a way to win. The Muskies getting the lead back up to 11 after UC cut it to three with minutes left in the game was a really nice display of basketball both offensively and defensively. As you noted, the Cats had X on its heels in a very intense and hostile situation. The Muskies bent but didn’t break; and after UC tied it on the four point play, the bend but not breaking mindset remained. I think that bodes well for Big East play.

[zippin']

It's pretty funny because I think this UC team is basically one outside shooter away from being a solid team. Not having that makes them so one-dimensional that it's almost impossible for them to be consistently good. The only chance they have against good teams is DeJulius or Nolley blowing up and making every shot they take.

[Xville]

It's pretty funny because I think this UC team is basically one outside shooter away from being a solid team. Not having that makes them so one-dimensional that it's almost impossible for them to be consistently good. The only chance they have against good teams is DeJulius or Nolley blowing up and making every shot they take.

maybe....their defense also seems to be pretty atrocious. It will probably look great tomorrow though when Aluminum has his team crank out 40 3pt attempts

[drudy23]

maybe....their defense also seems to be pretty atrocious. It will probably look great tomorrow though when Aluminum has his team crank out 40 3pt attempts

UC will beat them by 25+ - well, at least they should. They're very bad.

[Xville]

UC will beat them by 25+ - well, at least they should. They're very bad.

I hope so...i fully intend to do the Miami (OH), Louisville crap team Parlay tomorrow for a big win

[drudy23]

I hope so...i fully intend to do the Miami (OH), Louisville crap team Parlay tomorrow for a big win

Probably a good strategy - I don't see either getting more than 1-2 conference wins (Louisville might get none).

[X-band '01]

maybe....their defense also seems to be pretty atrocious. It will probably look great tomorrow though when Aluminum has his team crank out 40 3pt attempts

If the UC team that showed up in the 1st half against Xavier makes an appearance, both teams combined could jack up about 80 3s in the game. If they're lucky, they'll make 10-15 of them.

[X-band '01]

On a side note, I'll rep the first poster who can find the only UC player on their roster that has a win against Xavier in their career.

[zippin']

I'm dying at Aluminum lol.

EDIT: Meant to quote @XVILLE

[GoMuskies]

On a side note, I'll rep the first poster who can find the only UC player on their roster that has a win against Xavier in their career.

Scanning their roster and see that they have a Wake Forest transfer, so I assume it is him. Ody Oguama

[Xville]

I'm dying at Aluminum lol.

EDIT: Meant to quote @XVILLE

Can't take credit for that one...not sure who came up with it on here, but damn does it fit.

[X-band '01]

Scanning their roster and see that they have a Wake Forest transfer, so I assume it is him. Ody Oguama

Correct. Always seems to play decently against X for some reason.