Game Thread: Xavier v SE Louisiana Univ (11/30/2022)

[paulxu]

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THE MATCHUP

XAVIER UNIVERSITY MUSKETEERS (4-3, 0-0 BIG EAST)
SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA UNIVERSITY LIONS (4-3, 0-0 Southland)
WEDNESDAY, NOV. 30, 2022 AT 8:30 P.M. ET
AT CINTAS CENTER (10,224) IN CINCINNATI, OHIO

TV, RADIO & LIVE STATS

Television: FS1 with play by-play from Matt Schumacker and analysis from Lavall Jordan.
Radio: 55KRC with play-by-play from Xavier Hall of Famer Joe Sunderman ('79) and analysis from XU all-time leading scorer and Hall of Famer Byron Larkin ('88).

Live Stats: Media stats at Statbroadcast.com (http://statbroadcast.com/) and fan stats at GoXavier.com (https://goxavier.com/).

[GoMuskies]

That looks like a friendly lion.

[GoMuskies]

X -22.5/154.5

[bjf123]

Zach not starting tonight.


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[xu82]

That looks like a friendly lion.

Don’t scare the kiddies!!!

[Xville]

Another message sent to free. I’m not sure the kid is ever going to get it though.

[GoMuskies]

Defense seems good!

[Three Point Pete]

When will Tandy's shots start to go in? So close.

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[Xville]

Nice to craft get some time and some confidence going!

[noteggs]

Obviously the tough competition really helped

[SemajParlor]

If Colby keeps shooting like this I don't think we'll be seeing him back in college next year.

[Caveat]

Colby Bluiett

[GoMuskies]

Miller gonna peel some paint at halftime!

[paulxu]

Free off the bench is 3-3 with 7 boards and some assists...and some TO's.

Curiously, our entire team has NO offensive rebounds. That's hard to do. At least one should come bouncing your way.

[atljar]

Well according to the announcers, we have a final four.

[paulxu]

It's possible that I had a little too much bourbon when I was picking the score on this game.

[American X]

I can't stop watching the Cajun Stainbrook.

[bjf123]

It's possible that I had a little too much bourbon when I was picking the score on this game.

I think we’re all going to be off a boatload on their score.


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[American X]

Claude, Tandy, Kraft, Hunter & Miles was an actual lineup.

[bjf123]

Apparently we’ve turned into a bunch of hacks this half.


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[paulxu]

It seems strange that Edwards can't even get a couple minutes.

[Caveat]

The 1s still being in up 33 with 7 to play is sending a message somewhere to someone(s).

[KabeX]

Miles MADE A FT!

[KabeX]

It seems strange that Edwards can't even get a couple minutes.

You and Sean must have a Vulcan mind meld thing going

[bobbiemcgee]

Miles MADE A FT!

He jumped off two feet

[American X]

It is a good thing all the eyes of college basketball are on this epic Xavier beatdown of the SE Louisiana Friendly Lions and not on any other games.

[paulxu]

You and Sean must have a Vulcan mind meld thing going

I'm glad he got some time and seemed to play well.
Haven't given up that he might help give Nunge and Free some breathers.
If he doesn't get much time this year, I would think he'd transfer.

[IM4X]

I'm glad he got some time and seemed to play well.
Haven't given up that he might help give Nunge and Free some breathers.
If he doesn't get much time this year, I would think he'd transfer.

Thought Edwards looked pretty impressive in his limited minutes. Hustled and made some nice buckets. Might be partly that he played against some of their backups. Still, he looked like he might have at least given Sean a little bit more to think about.

[xavierj]

I'm glad he got some time and seemed to play well.
Haven't given up that he might help give Nunge and Free some breathers.
If he doesn't get much time this year, I would think he'd transfer.

With Free and Jack most likely gone, if he can commit to working hard, he will have an opportunity at Xavier next year. Needs to get bigger and stronger and be an enforcer on defense and he will Play.

[xukeith]

Thought Edwards looked pretty impressive in his limited minutes. Hustled and made some nice buckets. Might be partly that he played against some of their backups. Still, he looked like he might have at least given Sean a little bit more to think about.

agree. He shoved a couple players out of the way all for a rebound.

[XUGRAD80]

Edwards looks much more coordinated than Miles. Miles always looks off balance and seems to get pushed around pretty easily. Edwards has more upside from what I saw last night and have seen in the past.

But…no sense in getting to excited. There are some HS/Prep teams that could probably beat SELA.

[xavierj]

Edwards looks much more coordinated than Miles. Miles always looks off balance and seems to get pushed around pretty easily. Edwards has more upside from what I saw last night and have seen in the past.

But…no sense in getting to excited. There are some HS/Prep teams that could probably beat SELA.

Miles looked much better last night offensively but the difference is on the defensive end. That is the reason Edwards’s does not play and Miles does. Offensive is not an issue with this team. Miles did well defensively against Duke and Gonzaga bigs. If Edwards could play defense, he would play.

[whopper]

it is hard to believe that SELA beat Wyoming (a 500 team in Mountain West) and lost by 10 to colorado state. I liked the look of Kraft's stroke last night, Edwards and Miles look ready to help out, Claude improving etc. Nice to have a blowout to give them minutes. A sneaky problem we had the past few years is that we did not blow out anyone so the young players never had a proving ground. We were playing starters 35 min against Eastern Kentucky , etc

[bleedXblue]

I take nothing away from last night that team was hot garbage in the 1st half

[Masterofreality]

I take nothing away from last night that team was hot garbage in the 1st half

Agree. Nothing other than a blowout vs a team who barely showed up.
Saturday is huge to really see if lessons learned.

[drudy23]

I take nothing away from last night that team was hot garbage in the 1st half

My have been top 3 worst teams I've ever seen X play? I'd put Athletes in Action ahead of them.

[Masterofreality]

My have been top 3 worst teams I've ever seen X play? I'd put Athletes in Action ahead of them.

University of District of Columbia is right up there!!

[Xavier]

Nothing really to take from the game. My favorite part may have been the live look in up 30 and Sean talking to his team. You can just tell the coaching still going on, the leadership and changing culture. What he said was so simple yet so important in changing the culture. And then Sean getting a T up 30.

As for edwards, I always feel he can provide a little. But if he hasn’t seen the floor until last night then he won’t really see it and it’s more important for the team to get Miles time. What he can (potentially) bring to the team helps out more than what Edwards can bring.

[Murph85]

If Colby keeps shooting like this I don't think we'll be seeing him back in college next year.

Yeah and i can't see what our starting 5 is next year with him gone. The backcourt can't be Miles, edwards and the incoming Frosh. We need a transfer and possibly a Euro big.

[bleedXblue]

Yeah and i can't see what our starting 5 is next year with him gone. The backcourt can't be Miles, edwards and the incoming Frosh. We need a transfer and possibly a Euro big.

LOL we are going to need multiple transfers and hope we can keep our head above water next year.....it WILL be an official rebuilding year

[drudy23]

I don't see Colby as a sure-fire NBA lock. He definitely could be back next year. We'll be fine.

[Xville]

I don't see Colby as a sure-fire NBA lock. He definitely could be back next year. We'll be fine.

I don't think he is a lock either, but he may just be done with college ball and want to go make some money. If he continues shooting like he has, there is very little reason to come back to college. He'd be a complete college product at that point.

[drudy23]

I don't think he is a lock either, but he may just be done with college ball and want to go make some money. If he continues shooting like he has, there is very little reason to come back to college. He'd be a complete college product at that point.

Have to lock up some NIL deals - in all seriousness, that's what's going to keep these second tier guys around for 3-4 years.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I don't think he is a lock either, but he may just be done with college ball and want to go make some money. If he continues shooting like he has, there is very little reason to come back to college. He'd be a complete college product at that point.

True, but the same could be said of Tre who came back and Scruggs and other players who did come back.

We just never really know what these guys are thinking. Either way, given the landscape of college basketball these days, I anticipate/expect Miller will put a competitive team on the court next year. I say that understanding also that Miller needs a couple years to really make this program his again.

[Xavier]

Have to lock up some NIL deals - in all seriousness, that's what's going to keep these second tier guys around for 3-4 years.

Yeah that’s an interesting twist in some of these decisions. Colby just saw Scruggs injury that could leave a lasting impact on his choice. I agree with Xville, I don’t see him staying. Doesn’t mean NBA but if he keeps this up he won’t have all the much more to prove anyways. I’m not worried about next year with the transfer pool.

[Caveat]

True, but the same could be said of Tre who came back and Scruggs and other players who did come back.

We just never really know what these guys are thinking. Either way, given the landscape of college basketball these days, I anticipate/expect Miller will put a competitive team on the court next year. I say that understanding also that Miller needs a couple years to really make this program his again.

Tre came back because he didn't have the quickness or skills to defend in the NBA as a junior.

He didn't have those skills as a senior either, as it turns out, but he was definitely trying to play his way into the league v. going to Europe and giving up on the dream.

[bleedXblue]

so that I understand NIL, couldn't North Carolina come calling for Colby the transfer next year and some private donor fund NIL money specifically to Colby? An example would be to use Colby's NIL for a large car dealership sponsorship of some type.

[Jumpin_Jamal_Forever]

I take nothing away from last night that team was hot garbage in the 1st half

I saw a much more intense team, including Free, and I think it noteworthy. Still, agree that we need to see that level of fire against better talent and an equally intense opponent. In that regard, Saturday may represent a turning point in this season. We shall see..........

[D-West & PO-Z]

Tre came back because he didn't have the quickness or skills to defend in the NBA as a junior.

He didn't have those skills as a senior either, as it turns out, but he was definitely trying to play his way into the league v. going to Europe and giving up on the dream.

That makes no sense, but ok. Tre's biggest barrier to the NBA is and always has been his lack of athleticism. Nothing about another year of college basketball was going to change that.

[IM4X]

While it was a very overmatched team X played (their one big reminded me a little of Stainbrook -except that Matt was good at defending, rebounding and scoring), I think it was just the kind of game X needed at this point in the season. SE Louisiana was the perfect, less competitive team to basically scrimmage against and work on fixing some of the things that have been killing them in games (e.g. playing poor defense, not getting defensive rebounds). It also allowed some of the non-starters to get in rhythm and gain more confidence.

I think Craft may have gained the most confidence last night. He looked the most comfortable he’s looked all season. Not only was he hitting from 3, he looked really good in transition, scoring on a fast break.

The games from here on are certainly going to be much tougher than this one, but I do think Kam and some others like Free, Nunge, Hunter, Miles, and Edwards are in a better place because they got a chance to work on fundamentals, gain more chemistry and find a comfortable team rhythm during an easy scrimmage/game.

[webxu]

I don't think he is a lock either, but he may just be done with college ball and want to go make some money. If he continues shooting like he has, there is very little reason to come back to college. He'd be a complete college product at that point.

The latest mock draft I saw had him as #37, so he is pretty solidly in the mix, if he continues his play he could get into the first round....

[D-West & PO-Z]

The latest mock draft I saw had him as #37, so he is pretty solidly in the mix, if he continues his play he could get into the first round....

ESPN's newest has him #36 and has this to say:

"Xavier's Colby Jones had a breakout performance at the PK85 tournament, averaging 18 points, six rebounds and five assists while shooting 9-for-10 from beyond the arc in three games. Entering the season a career 30% 3-point shooter, Jones had some questions to answer in that department, especially since he doesn't pop from a physical standpoint with his average size, length, frame and explosiveness.

Jones started off the season cold, not making a single 3-pointer in his first three games, but was scorching in Portland, which is a significant development considering how many NBA decision-makers were in attendance. Jones' passing ability and all-around feel for the game are what really make him interesting as a prospect, as well as the toughness he displays defensively. If he can continue to show that his outside shooting is real, he'll have a chance to enter the conversation as a first-round prospect with the other intangibles he brings to the table."

[Xville]

That's awesome....good for Colby! Hope he can keep showing out this year and get into the first round!