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MuskiePimp23
11-25-2022, 07:33 PM
Coming over here because I can't stand that overpriced site that is nothing more than a boys club. I have been on that site since Brian Snow runs it. I posted that I didn't think Xavier would beat Duke and that was because Xaviers defense has been abysmal. I was personally attacked from multiple people and Broering bans me from posting. The guy caters to others on that site who can do no wrong and many of them are on this site as well. Just wanted to make it known that I'm around and not going away despite Broering running a dictatorship and echo chamber that ponders to a few chosen posters whom he allows to personnally attack others and nothing is done.
xukeith
11-25-2022, 07:48 PM
Coming over here because I can't stand that overpriced site that is nothing more than a boys club. I have been on that site since Brian Snow runs it. I posted that I didn't think Xavier would beat Duke and that was because Xaviers defense has been abysmal. I was personally attacked from multiple people and Broering bans me from posting. The guy caters to others on that site who can do no wrong and many of them are on this site as well. Just wanted to make it known that I'm around and not going away despite Broering running a dictatorship and echo chamber that ponders to a few chosen posters whom he allows to personnally attack others and nothing is done.
Welcome to the club. I posted XU's best coach was Thad Matta and I was permanently banned . I thank the X friend Mr. Neutral as he often took it as a compliment. You would think the business of owning and moderating a site would give reason or cause. ehhh?
GoMuskies
11-25-2022, 07:53 PM
I joined for about a year and was never a big fan. That was in the Snow era, though, and I had a hard time getting past what a hilariously terrible writer he was. The only real plus was the recruiting coverage, but all that obviously comes out if you wait long enough, so I didn't see any value in it. The messageboard was pretty weird, too.
xuwillie
11-25-2022, 07:54 PM
Welcome to the club. I posted XU's best coach was Thad Matta and I was permanently banned . I thank the X friend Mr. Neutral as he often took it as a compliment. You would think the business of owning and moderating a site would give reason or cause. ehhh?
I like that site when I have my blue colored glasses on. Other than that it’s a bunch of guys who think X will go undefeated.
MuskiePimp23
11-25-2022, 07:56 PM
Welcome to the club. I posted XU's best coach was Thad Matta and I was permanently banned . I thank the X friend Mr. Neutral as he often took it as a compliment. You would think the business of owning and moderating a site would give reason or cause. ehhh?
You would think yes. Whenever I post an opinion that upsets the protected ones there, they are allowed to gang up on me with personal attacks and then I get banned. I never hit below the belt and attack anyone personally. It's ridiculous and I like sites that don't ban the ones getting personally attacked just for having an opinion. My opinion was spot on as well. I said X would not win today unless they significantly improved their defense. Defense didn't improve and Dukes defense overwhelmed X's offense with their athleticism . It's reality the way I see it.
It's something I never complain about but he has sales to attract new subscribers while long time subscribers like me get absolutely no discount so it is a slap in the face to have your opinion censored.
I agree Snows writing wasn't the greatest but his recruiting info and sources were top notch. Also, agree that if you wait long enough most of the info will come out on free boards.
Xavier
11-25-2022, 08:01 PM
The site was excellent at the end of last year during rumors of Steele being let go to the hiring of Sean. I prefer general discussion here but for breaking news it’s pretty good.
XU 87
11-25-2022, 08:29 PM
The reason you got banned was because you had about 6-8 posts saying how Duke was going to beat X. It got a little repetitive. And obnoxious. And now you come over here to complain.
MuskiePimp23
11-25-2022, 08:42 PM
The reason you got banned was because you had about 6-8 posts saying how Duke was going to beat X. It got a little repetitive. And obnoxious. And now you come over here to complain.
I had people personally attacking me for an opinion and I replied to the trolls. No action was taken against the ones who verbally attacked me. Also no warning was given.
Against personal insults for an opinion. Thats flat out wrong.
What is annoying is people calling for someone to "shut up" and calling them a "dumba$$" and nothing happens to those people and the person who simply stated an opinion that turned out to be 100% correct gets banned.
XU 87
11-25-2022, 08:54 PM
I had people personally attacking me for an opinion and I replied to the trolls. No action was taken against the ones who verbally attacked me. Also no warning was given.
Against personal insults for an opinion. Thats flat out wrong.
What is annoying is people calling for someone to "shut up" and calling them a "dumba$$" and nothing happens to those people and the person who simply stated an opinion that turned out to be 100% correct gets banned.
The problem is that you posted over and over and over again that X was gonna lose. And multiple people got tired of it and called you out. Now you’re on a different board and have started an entire thread so you can complain about this perceived injustice.
Xavier
11-25-2022, 09:00 PM
Sounds like you just gotta calm down. Sheesh, just talking Xavier basketball. Don’t get stressed about it
D-West & PO-Z
11-25-2022, 09:52 PM
Also, agree that if you wait long enough most of the info will come out on free boards.
And if you wait as long as I do to care about that stuff, they might even show up on campus and play in a game!
nuts4xu
11-26-2022, 10:07 AM
What is annoying is people calling for someone to "shut up" and calling them a "dumba$$" and nothing happens to those people and the person who simply stated an opinion that turned out to be 100% correct gets banned.
When you put your opinion on the internet for all the world to see, you volunteer that opinion to be criticized, judged, agreed with, opposed no open yourself up to whatever feedback people decide to bestow upon you.
It is anonymous people on a message board, they don’t know you personally. If you don’t like the feedback, maybe don’t post. And I highly suggest you stay away from Twitter. The Twitterverse is not kind to people with questionable opinions.
XUOWNSUC
11-26-2022, 10:13 AM
I do think the site has a grade school circle jerk mentality sometimes. Just look at the XU-IU postgame thread.
drudy23
11-26-2022, 10:29 AM
When you sign up for these sites, you have to know going in that there's going to be a certain level of stupidity - if that at all bothers you, you might as well not sign up.
It's a fan message board - stupidity is more common than rational thought. Just laugh it off and move on.
xuwillie
11-26-2022, 11:08 AM
I do think the site has a grade school circle jerk mentality sometimes. Just look at the XU-IU postgame thread.
I think Rick does a good job. Problem I have is when he says something negative he gets 20 upvotes but if a fan says something negative you get 20 downvotes. Bunch of grade schoolers following their fearless leader
D-West & PO-Z
11-26-2022, 03:59 PM
Do you get a prorated refund when you are suspended?
xavbball
11-26-2022, 06:05 PM
When you put your opinion on the internet for all the world to see, you volunteer that opinion to be criticized, judged, agreed with, opposed no open yourself up to whatever feedback people decide to bestow upon you.
It is anonymous people on a message board, they don’t know you personally. If you don’t like the feedback, maybe don’t post. And I highly suggest you stay away from Twitter. The Twitterverse is not kind to people with questionable options.
I don't disagree. The issue on 247 board is that you can't state an opinion. MuskiePimp didn't say anything outlandish about the team. He said he didn't see X beating Duke because of Duke's talent and where X is defensively. What's wrong with that opinion? Coach Miller has stated in every one of his press conferences that defense is a weak area for the team. If someone disagrees with that thought, that's totally fine. It's a message board, and there should be a good dialogue going back and forth. The overall response however was insults, and MuskiePimp gets banned. One guy writes, "Xavier will beat Duke tomorrow" and gets 28 upvotes. I couldn't agree more with XUOWNSUC that the 247 board has a circle jerk mentality.
pimpinthebox
11-26-2022, 08:02 PM
I'll pile on the hilarious replies by 87 and Nuts. It's the inherent risk when you post on message boards. Don't take it so personally.
I belonged for a while. The recruiting stuff was interesting back then in the Snow days. I got zero from the banter. I love the recruiting stuff, but I was glad when that credit card expired.
Masterofreality
11-26-2022, 10:23 PM
Not a fan.
Tried it for a year but it’s just a private club of guys that are a real clique.
Broering is highly unimpressive. Could care less about the recruiting stuff cause “stars” mean zero.
When it comes to that, In Sean I trust.
Happy to save the money
I do not subscribe to Broering’s 247 board, but I have listened to a number of his podcasts. While I have enjoyed the ones that reveal some legitimate inside scoop/ news about Sean or X players or recruits, I have not been as interested in his speculative conversations with co-hosts or guests.
Broering can come across dismissive at times and overly presumptive other times - as if he honestly believed has more accurate answers to speculative topics. His speculative take is not necessarily any better than anyone else’s, yet sometimes he can act as if it is. No one knows how a player or team will do in the future against a particular opponent.
I have no idea what was posted on Rick’s board, but it would be a big mistake to allow personal attacks on any board. It’s certainly okay to express a difference of opinion, but turning it personal by calling someone a name or putting them down should not be acceptable. Also, kicking someone off a board because the person didn’t think X would win a game against a very good team sounds like a bad move as well.
Xuperman
11-27-2022, 06:19 AM
I'll pile on the hilarious replies by 87 and Nuts. It's the inherent risk when you post on message boards. Don't take it so personally.
Not seeing the purpose of this thread....at all.
All is see is a guy that got butt bruised on a message board and is actively seeking revenge by suggesting a boycott of the site.
xukeith
11-27-2022, 07:36 AM
Do you get a prorated refund when you are suspended?
No. You are allowed to read other people's messages and read articles but no $ back for year subscription. And banned means keep paying but no interaction with posters.
xavierj
11-27-2022, 08:22 AM
No. You are allowed to read other people's messages and read articles but no $ back for year subscription. And banned means keep paying but no interaction with posters.
Rick bans people when they say the same thing a thousand times. He warns you and when you don’t get it, he will ban you for spamming the board. He doesn’t ban people for being negative. If he did, most people would have been banned the last few years.
XUOWNSUC
11-27-2022, 08:50 AM
Not seeing the purpose of this thread....at all.
All is see is a guy that got butt bruised on a message board and is actively seeking revenge by suggesting a boycott of the site.
He never suggested a boycott. You are making shit up.
The guy was being very obnoxious about X getting beat. He came off as trollish. Hell, I think we probably get our ass kicked today by Gonzaga, but I'm not going to post it ten times between now and 7:30. I prefer to hope the Zags have two bad games in a row. He seemed to be trying to see how many people he could piss off. Heck, I've been roasted for mentioning a generation of kids that grew up getting participation trophies. Just shake it off and move on. I like both sites. Rick often does have inside info, and this site has a reliable cast of characters for insight and laughs.
X-band '01
11-27-2022, 09:25 AM
Rick bans people when they say the same thing a thousand times. He warns you and when you don’t get it, he will ban you for spamming the board. He doesn’t ban people for being negative. If he did, most people would have been banned the last few years.
Everyone knows that's what our politics and global warming threads are for.
(end of thread hijack)
bleedXblue
11-27-2022, 09:32 AM
Broering has a quick trigger finger and comes across as super arrogant....... Outside of some inside info at times I don't value his opinion much.
Masterofreality
11-27-2022, 11:02 AM
Everyone knows that's what our politics and global warming threads are for.
(end of thread hijack)
I’m proud that I personally started one of those threads.
Xuperman
11-27-2022, 11:21 AM
He never suggested a boycott. You are making shit up.
Huh? Maybe not directly.....so, how about implied, encouraged, hoping for?
What other reason could there be to start a new thread here, to bitch about what happened to him there? Pity Party?
There's no making "shit up" here. It's very clear what is being communicated by starting this weird thread.
STL_XUfan
11-27-2022, 11:31 AM
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D-West & PO-Z
11-27-2022, 01:57 PM
Rick bans people when they say the same thing a thousand times. He warns you and when you don’t get it, he will ban you for spamming the board. He doesn’t ban people for being negative. If he did, most people would have been banned the last few years.
That wouldnt go over well here and this site is free. :lol:
D-West & PO-Z
11-27-2022, 01:58 PM
Everyone knows that's what our politics and global warming threads are for.
(end of thread hijack)
Ha, you beat me to it!
MuskiePimp23
11-27-2022, 05:51 PM
To JTG, I was not trying to come off as "trollish" as that was not the intent. The intent was to essentially respond to each person that was attacking me. The "boys club" or "clique" over there is a real thing. I started this thread essentially to see if I am totally off base or if others have similar opinions. There are also several posters that are on both boards so hoping others could see another point of view.
My problem is Broering has some sort of superiority complex that if there is a dissenting view he does nothing to the people who were attacking me. The personal attacks in my opinion are going over the line.
Everyone has parts of your job you may dislike doing, but if Broering acted like an adult and stepped in and simply said to keep the personal attacks off the board or else people would be banned, that is what an adult moderator would do. The personal attacks as I mentioned were telling me to "shut up", calling me "stupid", calling for censorship of my post, calling me a "dumba$$" and someone else over there insinuating or stating I would be terrible as a "sales manager attempting to motivate individuals".
XAVBBALL summed up exactly what was going on in the reply earlier in this thread.
Not looking for anyone's sympathy, but I think it's ridiculous that Broering runs the site over there and acts like a toddler. I have been a paid member on that site since 2007 when Brian Snow ran it and it was on Rivals and I certainly have a different perspective than others but like just about all of us on this board I want Xavier to get to that next level of a Final Four/National Title and have posted that many times. Instead, Broering caters to the "clique" over there and even tries to be an antagonist.
If you want to witness what I feel is extreme childish immaturity, Broering posted on the Xavier247 Twitter page earlier today toting their Thanksgiving sale of 75% off for new subscribers:
"MuskiePimp is banned sale!"
"We've banned one of the worst posters in Xavier internet history!"
What childish behavior if you ask me. It sounds like I live in this guy's head rent free.
drudy23
11-27-2022, 08:33 PM
To JTG, I was not trying to come off as "trollish" as that was not the intent. The intent was to essentially respond to each person that was attacking me. The "boys club" or "clique" over there is a real thing. I started this thread essentially to see if I am totally off base or if others have similar opinions. There are also several posters that are on both boards so hoping others could see another point of view.
My problem is Broering has some sort of superiority complex that if there is a dissenting view he does nothing to the people who were attacking me. The personal attacks in my opinion are going over the line.
Everyone has parts of your job you may dislike doing, but if Broering acted like an adult and stepped in and simply said to keep the personal attacks off the board or else people would be banned, that is what an adult moderator would do. The personal attacks as I mentioned were telling me to "shut up", calling me "stupid", calling for censorship of my post, calling me a "dumba$$" and someone else over there insinuating or stating I would be terrible as a "sales manager attempting to motivate individuals".
XAVBBALL summed up exactly what was going on in the reply earlier in this thread.
Not looking for anyone's sympathy, but I think it's ridiculous that Broering runs the site over there and acts like a toddler. I have been a paid member on that site since 2007 when Brian Snow ran it and it was on Rivals and I certainly have a different perspective than others but like just about all of us on this board I want Xavier to get to that next level of a Final Four/National Title and have posted that many times. Instead, Broering caters to the "clique" over there and even tries to be an antagonist.
If you want to witness what I feel is extreme childish immaturity, Broering posted on the Xavier247 Twitter page earlier today toting their Thanksgiving sale of 75% off for new subscribers:
"MuskiePimp is banned sale!"
"We've banned one of the worst posters in Xavier internet history!"
What childish behavior if you ask me. It sounds like I live in this guy's head rent free.
Why are you taking your beef here? Take it up with RB.
xukeith
11-27-2022, 09:44 PM
Why are you taking your beef here? Take it up with RB.
RB doesn't respond to any messages. Good luck!
BigMoeMusketeer
11-27-2022, 09:48 PM
Rick is an immature and insecure guy, he doesn't have Snow's recruiting connections, and now he splits his time and allegiance with NKU. I'm shocked people still subscribe to that site, given that most of their nuggets can be found on Twitter, and at the end of the day, following the whims of 16-18 year old recruits can be exhausting and frustrating to begin with.
Between this site and Twitter you should be able to get 90% of what you get over there for free.
bjf123
11-27-2022, 09:57 PM
I signed up for Rick’s site last year when all the information about Miller coming here or going to South Carolina was going on. I’ve only been back a handful of times since then. I find the forum layout quirky and difficult to navigate. I’ll be canceling before the auto renewal next March.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
xavbball
11-27-2022, 10:05 PM
To JTG, I was not trying to come off as "trollish" as that was not the intent. The intent was to essentially respond to each person that was attacking me. The "boys club" or "clique" over there is a real thing. I started this thread essentially to see if I am totally off base or if others have similar opinions. There are also several posters that are on both boards so hoping others could see another point of view.
My problem is Broering has some sort of superiority complex that if there is a dissenting view he does nothing to the people who were attacking me. The personal attacks in my opinion are going over the line.
Everyone has parts of your job you may dislike doing, but if Broering acted like an adult and stepped in and simply said to keep the personal attacks off the board or else people would be banned, that is what an adult moderator would do. The personal attacks as I mentioned were telling me to "shut up", calling me "stupid", calling for censorship of my post, calling me a "dumba$$" and someone else over there insinuating or stating I would be terrible as a "sales manager attempting to motivate individuals".
XAVBBALL summed up exactly what was going on in the reply earlier in this thread.
Not looking for anyone's sympathy, but I think it's ridiculous that Broering runs the site over there and acts like a toddler. I have been a paid member on that site since 2007 when Brian Snow ran it and it was on Rivals and I certainly have a different perspective than others but like just about all of us on this board I want Xavier to get to that next level of a Final Four/National Title and have posted that many times. Instead, Broering caters to the "clique" over there and even tries to be an antagonist.
If you want to witness what I feel is extreme childish immaturity, Broering posted on the Xavier247 Twitter page earlier today toting their Thanksgiving sale of 75% off for new subscribers:
"MuskiePimp is banned sale!"
"We've banned one of the worst posters in Xavier internet history!"
What childish behavior if you ask me. It sounds like I live in this guy's head rent free.
I thought you were joking about Rick's tweet. That is really unprofessional.
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GoMuskies
11-27-2022, 10:17 PM
Geez, what a dbag.
xuwillie
11-27-2022, 10:30 PM
Geez, what a dbag.
He's not good and could care less about Xavier basketball
I thought you were joking about Rick's tweet. That is really unprofessional.
https://i.ibb.co/fCJ1zCg/sshot.png
Wow. If this is real, it’s a very juvenile move.
Not exactly the smartest way to gain more members.
“Hey, here’s a brilliant promotional idea. I’ll ban a person who’s been a loyal paying member on my site for years, then bash him by calling him the worst X poster in history. Then I’ll disrespect that loyal, paying member even more by offering a 75% discount to celebrate that loyal, paying customer has been banned from my site!” That ought to get X fans to jump at a chance become another loyal, paying member of my site.”
94GRAD
11-28-2022, 10:29 AM
I really the site and all the info that Rick gives. Not sure if everyone knows, but as a member benefit, you get Paramount+ for free. That's almost worth it by itself.
PS- Don't tell me that this forum doesn't have its cliques and unbearable posters.
xukeith
11-28-2022, 10:33 AM
I thought you were joking about Rick's tweet. That is really unprofessional.
https://i.ibb.co/fCJ1zCg/sshot.png
Seems very catty and childlike. Maybe Rick really is 12-13 years old.
nuts4xu
11-28-2022, 11:45 AM
People can think whatever they want about the guy, and I have never been a fan of his condescending retorts. But I am not 100% sure Rick Broering controls the 247 Twitter account.
I just joined 247 in March around the Miller hype. I do not foresee renewing my subscription. I'm not a big follower of recruiting, and Rick doesn't offer much in the way of breaking news that isn't available elsewhere, nor is he a particularly insightful hoops analyst.
As for MuskiePimp, he's far from one of the worst posters in Xavier history. On the Xavier-Duke thread he sounded a lot like LH, but I haven't seen that consistently and am curious why he was banned.
D-West & PO-Z
11-28-2022, 01:43 PM
I just joined 247 in March around the Miller hype. I do not foresee renewing my subscription. I'm not a big follower of recruiting, and Rick doesn't offer much in the way of breaking news that isn't available elsewhere, nor is he a particularly insightful hoops analyst.
As for MuskiePimp, he's far from one of the worst posters in Xavier history. On the Xavier-Duke thread he sounded a lot like LH, but I haven't seen that consistently and am curious why he was banned.
Yeah, if anyone has the worst posters in Xavier message board history its us over here! Who the hell do they think they are over there?
Out of curiosity, just from a message board standpoint, is there more activity there or here?
xukeith
11-28-2022, 02:37 PM
Yeah, if anyone has the worst posters in Xavier message board history its us over here! Who the hell do they think they are over there?
Out of curiosity, just from a message board standpoint, is there more activity there or here?
I believe posters here on xavierhoops.com provide a tad more depth. on 247, it's a lot of "Ra Ra Ra!" or "Great job Rick!"
Muskie
11-28-2022, 03:04 PM
Yeah, if anyone has the worst posters in Xavier message board history its us over here! Who the hell do they think they are over there?
Out of curiosity, just from a message board standpoint, is there more activity there or here?
It honestly depends on the day and what's going on. The highest traffic day in this site's history was when Sean left for Arizona. The Second was Mack to Louisville. Other high days include around the times of the Elite 8 Wins. It ebbs and flows.
D-West & PO-Z
11-28-2022, 03:08 PM
It honestly depends on the day and what's going on. The highest traffic day in this site's history was when Sean left for Arizona. The Second was Mack to Louisville. Other high days include around the times of the Elite 8 Wins. It ebbs and flows.
Oh yeah, I'll never forget that day. I was still in school. I'll never forget being in a med school breakout room at SLU, supposed to be studying for something, but instead spending hours upon hours on this board.
GoMuskies
11-28-2022, 03:15 PM
Yeah, if anyone has the worst posters in Xavier message board history its us over here!
Damn right! MuskiePimp isn't even in the top 100 of worst posters in history over here! If anyone knows shitty posters, it's us!
XU 87
11-28-2022, 04:23 PM
I have never been a fan of his condescending retorts.
Agreed.
It honestly depends on the day and what's going on. The highest traffic day in this site's history was when Sean left for Arizona. The Second was Mack to Louisville. Other high days include around the times of the Elite 8 Wins. It ebbs and flows.
This site gets a lot of activity on non-basketball topics too. It’s like our loss-leader.
MuskiePimp23
11-28-2022, 07:21 PM
I can confirm the tweet is certainly real and Broering controls that Twitter page along with his personal Twitter. He sent me a private message on 247 with that link when he posted it on Twitter. Child like behavior and not professional at all in my opinion. He sent me the direct message obviously trying to set me off. I don't think he understands marketing and who his target audience is.
Xville
11-28-2022, 07:27 PM
Frankly, I think what he did is bordering on abuse, and at the very least completely unprofessional. People have been “cancelled” for far less. He probably deserves a bit of negative karma his way.
xukeith
11-28-2022, 07:52 PM
Well he at least messaged you. I asked him 3-4 times what happened to why I was banned. He never responded.
brownlavender
11-28-2022, 10:31 PM
That tweet was absolutely dbag move. I rejoined when miller was announced. I'll be ending my subscription as soon as the site is back up. Currently says it's down for maintenance
brownlavender
11-29-2022, 10:32 AM
Site is still down this morning. Hopefully it crashed and burned from his sale post. Just biding my time for my farewell drag post. One of the most unprofessional things I've seen in quite a while. I love xavier basketball but I will never support somebody like that
94GRAD
11-29-2022, 11:33 AM
Site is still down this morning. Hopefully it crashed and burned from his sale post. Just biding my time for my farewell drag post. One of the most unprofessional things I've seen in quite a while. I love xavier basketball but I will never support somebody like that
I have been able to access it all morning.
xukeith
11-29-2022, 02:49 PM
Been reading posts on there since January. Didn't notice any shutdown today.
xufan2020
11-29-2022, 04:12 PM
The lack of self-awareness on this thread is comical. I frequented this board for years, there's no less of a "boys club" or "clique" on xavierhoops.com than there is on musketeerreport.com
BTW, many of you in the "boys club" here have no more basketball knowledge than those guys at Banners on the Parkway, which is really saying something.
I shutter to think who y'all think who covers Xavier better more insightfully than Rick.
The difference between between these forums is you're actually informed of what's going on around the basketball program at musketereport.com
It goes WAY beyond some recruiting info.
The "insider updates" from Rick in the days leading up to Sean Miller's hiring were more insightful than anything I ever read in the years I spent on here.
Xville
11-29-2022, 04:23 PM
The lack of self-awareness on this thread is comical. I frequented this board for years, there's no less of a "boys club" or "clique" on xavierhoops.com than there is on musketeerreport.com
BTW, many of you in the "boys club" here have no more basketball knowledge than those guys at Banners on the Parkway, which is really saying something.
I shutter to think who y'all think who covers Xavier better more insightfully than Rick.
The difference between between these forums is you're actually informed of what's going on around the basketball program at musketereport.com
It goes WAY beyond some recruiting info.
The "insider updates" from Rick in the days leading up to Sean Miller's hiring were more insightful than anything I ever read in the years I spent on here.
Hi Rick's Mom!
drudy23
11-29-2022, 04:27 PM
Wait, am I in the club? Now I wanna know who's in the club?
Similar to "f this white club"?
xufan2020
11-29-2022, 04:33 PM
Hi Rick's Mom!
Rick's mom? Does that make you Muskiepimp's wife?
Xville
11-29-2022, 04:42 PM
The lack of self-awareness on this thread is comical. I frequented this board for years, there's no less of a "boys club" or "clique" on xavierhoops.com than there is on musketeerreport.com
BTW, many of you in the "boys club" here have no more basketball knowledge than those guys at Banners on the Parkway, which is really saying something.
I shutter to think who y'all think who covers Xavier better more insightfully than Rick.
The difference between between these forums is you're actually informed of what's going on around the basketball program at musketereport.com
It goes WAY beyond some recruiting info.
The "insider updates" from Rick in the days leading up to Sean Miller's hiring were more insightful than anything I ever read in the years I spent on here.
Literally anyone on twitter which is where his insightful basketball knowledge begins and ends.
X Factor
11-29-2022, 05:00 PM
I will say this, there are a whole lot of Rick Broering groupies on the 247 site.
drudy23
11-29-2022, 05:07 PM
I'm not on his site, but from Twitter and his occasional radio spots, I thought he was pretty good. Nothing earth shattering, but decent info.
GoMuskies
11-29-2022, 05:13 PM
Hi Rick's Mom!
I assumed it was Rick.
GoMuskies
11-29-2022, 05:13 PM
Wait, am I in the club? Now I wanna know who's in the club?
If you have to ask....
then fuck yeah you're in the club!
94GRAD
11-29-2022, 05:25 PM
Literally anyone on twitter which is where his insightful basketball knowledge begins and ends.
Tell me you haven't been on the 247 site without telling me you haven't been on the site. This is so insanely wrong it's laughable. Sometimes it's like you say stuff just to say stuff.
Xpectations
11-29-2022, 05:46 PM
Tell me you haven't been on the 247 site without telling me you haven't been on the site. This is so insanely wrong it's laughable. Sometimes it's like you say stuff just to say stuff.
I'm not related to Rick, but I really do enjoy the site. LOL
I do think Rick has great insights on games, early and deeper info on potential and committed recruits, and on other stuff going on inside the program. He does know the game pretty well, and does a good job on color commentary on NKU games if you want to hear it firsthand. His podcasts are good, and I especially like when he has Mario, coaches, or Christopher on as guests.
He's not an X fan (definitely not anti-X), which I actually like. It's a welcome departure from UC's 247 board, where the admins are the ultimate homers. You get more objective viewpoints from Rick. It's not like he's banning people simply because they are critical, despite the takes you see here.
For me, it's well worth the dollars I invest in my membership, second only to my season tickets.
Xville
11-29-2022, 06:45 PM
Tell me you haven't been on the 247 site without telling me you haven't been on the site. This is so insanely wrong it's laughable. Sometimes it's like you say stuff just to say stuff.
Yeah you’re right… stuff like this is genius and could only come from him. Gtfo. He adds zero
https://247sports.com/college/xavier/Article/xavier-musketeers-kentucky-wesleyan-panthers-exhibition-what-to-watch-196657194/
https://247sports.com/college/xavier/Article/Gonzaga-Bulldogs-88-Xavier-Musketeers-84-recap-198905896/
xuphan
11-29-2022, 07:15 PM
If you are really this upset with Musketeerscoop and feel Rick crossed the line, maybe reach out to 247sports and tell them your concerns. Just an idea since Musketeerscoop is part of 247Sports.
Rick can be a condescending douche bag but I do like the information he passes along.
I am not a fan of the posters who think he’s all knowing.
Get over it Pimp.
MuskiePimp23
11-29-2022, 09:48 PM
I have complained to 247 sports and no response. It's like Rick is judge, jury, and executioner over there. There is a thread on that board now where Rick is bashing me and other posters are bashing posts that I had from over a decade ago including my screen name which I set up originally in the early 2000's on Musketeer Madness as a college joke with some buddies and used the same screen name on this site and the 247 board.
The problem with the board is you pay yearly and it renews and I've asked Rick for a refund and he won't acknowledge. His thread is completely telling his side of the story which in my opinion is untrue. He references DM's and says I was "aggressive " to him. I'm tempted to release the transcripts of the DM's between Rick and I with timestamps if you really want to see the whole story and the kind of guy he is. He says I am trying to "sabotage" or " take down" his site on his 247 post.
Bottom line is Xavbball summed up earlier exactly what happened. I said I didn't think X would beat Duke because of our defensive play. Other posters questioned me and started personal attacks that go over the line. I defende the posts and get banned. Those are the facts.
I have never been the most optimistic fan as I look at things from a different perspective than many but everyone has their own perspective and I think we should respect that and have an honest discussion. I'm not over there paying $100/year to troll anyone.
The facts of what happened and has happened in the past is I post something that isn't sunshine and rainbows, get attacked personally from many in his clique, I defend myself quoting the attacks to the other posters, then I get banned with no recourse and nothing happens.
I think it's borderline defamation of character. It's also a fairy tale land when something happens and Rick's version of the DM's and events are not even close to factual.
MuskiePimp23
11-29-2022, 09:58 PM
XUFAN09 I know is on this site over there, he called me a "jackass" tells his spin and the boys club likes his post including Broering. Rick enables a completely toxic culture over there. It reminds me of the social media landscape and censoring others when you don't like them or their opinion.
GoMuskies
11-29-2022, 10:14 PM
Hey man, I'm totally on your side. I completely get it, and I understand the need to vent over here. But I think you need to let it go now, at least over here. You see a lot of people share your feelings and frustrations about that site, but really there's nothing else good to come out of this thread. Not all Xavier fans get along. There are some Xavier fans/people associated with the program who are dicks (same as with any major college program). It is what it is.
brownlavender
11-29-2022, 10:22 PM
I started the thread on there because of horrible business practices and I've been attacked all day as well. I've been a member for 133 months apparently. I had around 100 posts as of today. I don't like getting in the middle of dudes talking childish shit to each other. I couldn't hold my tongue on this one and of course standing up for somebody, who I don't necessarily agree with his posts but feel he said nothing wrong in the least, I get people talking me down as well. I love xavier but this toxic culture is ridiculous for people cheering on the same team. Seems like lord of the flies to me..... I'm just here for basketball and for a pay site just ridiculous. Sorry for rambling a little but it's all just kids arguing about nothing to argue to me
gladdenguy
11-29-2022, 10:32 PM
Rick Broering sucks.
His board sucks. He is just like Brendel. He can’t handle anything like an adult. He will just block or ban.
Definition of a p***y.
Hopefully you have another college team you like.
Pay for another college site and if you ever want to read his terrible board, you will have access.
I pay to another site and the quality and information pisses on Rick’s board.
Dude is such a d-bag.
xufan2020
11-29-2022, 11:06 PM
I have complained to 247 sports and no response. It's like Rick is judge, jury, and executioner over there. There is a thread on that board now where Rick is bashing me and other posters are bashing posts that I had from over a decade ago including my screen name which I set up originally in the early 2000's on Musketeer Madness as a college joke with some buddies and used the same screen name on this site and the 247 board.
The problem with the board is you pay yearly and it renews and I've asked Rick for a refund and he won't acknowledge. His thread is completely telling his side of the story which in my opinion is untrue. He references DM's and says I was "aggressive " to him. I'm tempted to release the transcripts of the DM's between Rick and I with timestamps if you really want to see the whole story and the kind of guy he is. He says I am trying to "sabotage" or " take down" his site on his 247 post.
Bottom line is Xavbball summed up earlier exactly what happened. I said I didn't think X would beat Duke because of our defensive play. Other posters questioned me and started personal attacks that go over the line. I defende the posts and get banned. Those are the facts.
I have never been the most optimistic fan as I look at things from a different perspective than many but everyone has their own perspective and I think we should respect that and have an honest discussion. I'm not over there paying $100/year to troll anyone.
The facts of what happened and has happened in the past is I post something that isn't sunshine and rainbows, get attacked personally from many in his clique, I defend myself quoting the attacks to the other posters, then I get banned with no recourse and nothing happens.
I think it's borderline defamation of character. It's also a fairy tale land when something happens and Rick's version of the DM's and events are not even close to factual.
Claiming borderline defamation of character regarding an anonymous username is next level hilarious. Nobody knows you dude.
You claiming you’re “not the most optimistic fan” is a total misrepresentation of how overtly negative the vast majority your posts have been. Your comments before the Duke game were a microcosm of years worth of negativity.
It’d be one thing if those comments before the Duke game came from someone that had the slightest semblance of nuance in their fandom.
It’s amazing you can’t piece any of this together, or admit the slightest bit of responsibility for your current circumstance.
I’m anything but a blind Pollyanna when it comes to my Xavier fandom, been downvoted plenty of times from posting negative comments. But you are a whole other level dude.
MuskiePimp23
11-29-2022, 11:08 PM
I appreciate the thread and agree with your points. The attacks on you over there are ridiculous. I'm just here to talk about Xavier basketball and wish it could be an adult conversation with differing viewpoints, good discussions, and no personal attacks and childish behavior.
The whole point of a message board is to discuss your team and hear other perspectives, otherwise you might as well talk to yourself if everyone is going to say the same thing.
MuskiePimp23
11-29-2022, 11:09 PM
I started the thread on there because of horrible business practices and I've been attacked all day as well. I've been a member for 133 months apparently. I had around 100 posts as of today. I don't like getting in the middle of dudes talking childish shit to each other. I couldn't hold my tongue on this one and of course standing up for somebody, who I don't necessarily agree with his posts but feel he said nothing wrong in the least, I get people talking me down as well. I love xavier but this toxic culture is ridiculous for people cheering on the same team. Seems like lord of the flies to me..... I'm just here for basketball and for a pay site just ridiculous. Sorry for rambling a little but it's all just kids arguing about nothing to argue to me
Meant to quote your reply. With my last post. Appreciate your post and the attacks against you are completely out of bounds and ridiculous.
MuskiePimp23
11-29-2022, 11:12 PM
Claiming borderline defamation of character regarding an anonymous username is next level hilarious. Nobody knows you dude.
You claiming you’re “not the most optimistic fan” is a total misrepresentation of how overtly negative the vast majority your posts have been. Your comments before the Duke game were a microcosm of years worth of negativity.
It’d be one thing if those comments before the Duke game came from someone that had the slightest semblance of nuance in their fandom.
It’s amazing you can’t piece any of this together, or admit the slightest bit of responsibility for your current circumstance.
I’m anything but a blind Pollyanna when it comes to my Xavier fandom, been downvoted plenty of times from posting negative comments. But you are a whole other level dude.
All your posts and viewpoints must be perfect then. Such an open mind to other perspectives. Everybody sees the world through their own lens. I went to the school and have had season tickets for almost 30 years. I guess I'm a whole other level and obviously dont like Xavier. Get out of here. Dude. I have high expectations and don't understand why we think it's fine for Xavier to lose to Duke and Gonzaga. When is X finally going to get to a Final Four? That's my expectations. I think some people are satisfied with low expectations and don't criticize but that's not me. I want better and want this program to have Elite years.
Thats also sarcasm in case that didn't come across.
xufan2020
11-29-2022, 11:52 PM
All your posts and viewpoints must be perfect then. Such an open mind to other perspectives. Everybody sees the world through their own lens. I went to the school and have had season tickets for almost 30 years. I guess I'm a whole other level and obviously dont like Xavier. Get out of here. Dude. I have high expectations and don't understand why we think it's fine for Xavier to lose to Duke and Gonzaga. When is X finally going to get to a Final Four? That's my expectations. I think some people are satisfied with low expectations and don't criticize but that's not me. I want better and want this program to have Elite years.
Thats also sarcasm in case that didn't come across.
Enough of this “I have high expectations.. I don’t understand why others think it’s okay to lose attitude” attitude.
I haven’t met ONE SINGLE FAN who doesn’t have high expectations for the program moving forward. You’re no different in that regard.
Plus you’re still missing the point. My posts and viewpoints have been wrong more times than I can remember, but that doesn’t matter.
It’s your strongly disagreeable personality, which has been displayed thru HUNDREDS of posts, that’s been rubbing people the wrong way for years.
Psychology 101/Carnagie’s How to Win Friends an Influence People
Have you ever thought “maybe my extremely negative ‘lens’ (which I never counterbalance) is really annoying others?”
This goes way beyond a sports message board.. nobody likes to hang around an Eeyore.
It’s one thing to be upset about the situation, but.. you really have the nerve to be surprised??
MuskiePimp23
11-30-2022, 12:05 AM
Enough of this “I have high expectations.. I don’t understand why others think it’s okay to lose attitude” attitude.
I haven’t met ONE SINGLE FAN who doesn’t have high expectations for the program moving forward. You’re no different in that regard.
Plus you’re still missing the point. My posts and viewpoints have been wrong more times than I can remember, but that doesn’t matter.
It’s your strongly disagreeable personality, which has been displayed thru HUNDREDS of posts, that’s been rubbing people the wrong way for years.
Psychology 101/Carnagie’s How to Win Friends an Influence People
Have you ever thought “maybe my extremely negative ‘lens’ (which I never counterbalance) is really annoying others?”
This goes way beyond a sports message board.. nobody likes to hang around an Eeyore.
It’s one thing to be upset about the situation, but.. you really have the nerve to be surprised??
I get what you are saying but my "personality" on a message board is not who I am. People want to surround themselves with positive people and usually ones with similar viewpoints. Many times however a way to learn and grow is by reading/listening to other perspectives. I dont care if someone doesn't "like" me because of message board opinions. I just think the discussions should be respectful. That's it.
Also, I don't post that much in my opinion for as long as I've been on these boards.
xufan2020
11-30-2022, 12:41 AM
I get what you are saying but my "personality" on a message board is not who I am. People want to surround themselves with positive people and usually ones with similar viewpoints. Many times however a way to learn and grow is by reading/listening to other perspectives. I dont care if someone doesn't "like" me because of message board opinions. I just think the discussions should be respectful. That's it.
Also, I don't post that much in my opinion for as long as I've been on these boards.
That’s fair. While I don’t know you personally, I’ll take your word that the man in real life is not the exact same as “Muskiepimp23”
I agree with you too. People absolutely learn more when they hear a different perspective.
I also don’t care if people like me either on the forums.
I had a field day on Musketeer Report against all the users (Rick included) who tried to shame me for booing when I was at the Seton Hall meltdown last season (I believe you were one of the few liking my comments).
And finally, yes discussions should be more respectful. I make a point to avoid name calling and am willing to apologize if I do so (I was using Eeyore as a reference, not calling you Eeyore directly).
X-band '01
11-30-2022, 06:38 AM
I like how it took this thread to bring the esteemed GladdenGuy out of hiding.
xavierj
11-30-2022, 07:38 AM
I get what you are saying but my "personality" on a message board is not who I am. People want to surround themselves with positive people and usually ones with similar viewpoints. Many times however a way to learn and grow is by reading/listening to other perspectives. I dont care if someone doesn't "like" me because of message board opinions. I just think the discussions should be respectful. That's it.
Also, I don't post that much in my opinion for as long as I've been on these boards.
You need to let it go. The reason you were banned was you just can’t let go, just like this thread. I am sure you are a great guy and it’s ok to be critical but after a couple of posts of saying the same thing, at some point just move on. I have also been downvoted and even told to
Take a break on that board, but looking back really kind of deserved it. My frustration with the program boiled over and a few drinks make you say the wrong things lol so was banned for a minute. I was banned, after being warned, for saying the same thing over and over. You can be critical and even come after Rick, but don’t spam the board and you won’t get banned.
pimpinthebox
11-30-2022, 10:00 AM
I like how it took this thread to bring the esteemed GladdenGuy out of hiding.
I've been in hiding for a while too. I come back to read that GladdenGuy is now considered "esteemed". I feel like Han Solo after he got out of the carbonite. I do love gladdenguy, but wow, things have really changed.
On the Broering topic, I side more with Xpectations than anyone else on here. I don't worship at 247, but it's good info and Rick is fair and balanced.
Masterofreality
11-30-2022, 10:11 AM
I've been in hiding for a while too. I come back to read that GladdenGuy is now considered "esteemed". I feel like Han Solo after he got out of the carbonite. I do love gladdenguy, but wow, things have really changed.
On the Broering topic, I side more with Xpectations than anyone else on here. I don't worship at 247, but it's good info and Rick is fair and balanced.
Welcome back Pimp. Thanks for repping in Portland!
We REALLY need to get more of the old guard back on here. Level headed, fair and balanced guys who are huge X fans, but aren’t afraid to be critical when needed. Too many went away under Steele.
Xpectations
11-30-2022, 10:19 AM
I still think too much emphasis is being placed on disagreement being the problem. It's not. Or, that not being universally positive and seeing the world through navy-colored glasses is the problem. It's not either.
There are plenty of positive and generally optimistic people who disagree all the time. The most successful ones do, and not only that, invite and encourage disagreement and challenged thought.
The best ones though know how to disagree without being disagreeable. They can challenge someone's individual thoughts (or a group's) without dragging down the room and trying to extend their personal dark gray clouds over everyone.
Recognize that there isn't a cult-like, uni-thought rationale for what happened, and honest, constructive disagreements aren't welcome. That's just not reality.
Masterofreality
11-30-2022, 10:19 AM
Rick Broering sucks.
His board sucks. He is just like Brendel. He can’t handle anything like an adult. He will just block or ban.
Definition of a p***y.
Hopefully you have another college team you like.
Pay for another college site and if you ever want to read his terrible board, you will have access.
I pay to another site and the quality and information pisses on Rick’s board.
Dude is such a d-bag.
Man! I gotta agree with this 100%. Rick is the equal to a Five Star recruit that only has 2 rather than 5 Tools. The 2 don’t make it worth the site.
If you want recruiting news there are plenty of other places to get it…maybe a day later, but you get it. There are other Xavier message boards that are free.
I don’t fault the guy for making a living, but he is a douche, for reasons that I will not go into here.
Masterofreality
11-30-2022, 10:24 AM
I still think too much emphasis is being placed on disagreement being the problem. It's not. Or, that not being universally positive and seeing the world through navy-colored glasses is the problem. It's not either.
There are plenty of positive and generally optimistic people who disagree all the time. The most successful ones do, and not only that, invite and encourage disagreement and challenged thought.
The best ones though know how to disagree without being disagreeable. They can challenge someone's individual thoughts (or a group's) without dragging down the room and trying to extend their personal dark gray clouds over everyone.
Recognize that there isn't a cult-like, uni-thought rationale for what happened, and honest, constructive disagreements aren't welcome. That's just not reality.
And I agree with this too.
But messageboards are an Internet Tavern where a bunch of tipsy and drunk people get into shouting matches all the time. And, pardon me XBand and Xeus, the bouncer isn’t always around (nor in many cases should he be) to clean up the spillage.
FREE SPEECH FOR ALL!!
Xpectations
11-30-2022, 10:25 AM
Welcome back Pimp. Thanks for repping in Portland!
We REALLY need to get more of the old guard back on here. Level headed, fair and balanced guys who are huge X fans, but aren’t afraid to be critical when needed. Too many went away under Steele.
Agree, MOR. And for those who think most X message board posters favor groupthink, I'd challenge them to read our group text threads and state that with a straight face. LOL
Masterofreality
11-30-2022, 10:35 AM
Agree, MOR. And for those who think most X message board posters favor groupthink, I'd challenge them to read our group text threads and state that with a straight face. LOL
OMG!! I should transcribe our game texts and put them in a book. They’d be a best seller!!
Talk about a flaming dumpster fire!! :-))
I was banned, after being warned, for saying the same thing over and over.
Wait, you were banned for repeating the same non-offensive thoughts or for saying something disrespectful about a poster or player again and again?
It would seem a bit odd to be banned for just repeating your point (as long as it is not personally attacking anyone). Why couldn’t other posters and the moderator of that site just simply stop responding to a poster posting repetitive messages that aren’t personally attacking anyone?
X Factor
11-30-2022, 10:48 AM
I was suspended by Rick a couple of years ago. He told me I was upsetting other members by posting a lot during a game. I was just posting during a game and being critical.
94GRAD
11-30-2022, 11:19 AM
I have kicked out plenty of customers over the years for the betterment of the other customers and staff. Some have come back and apologized saying their behavior won't happen again only to repeat the same problems. My business, as a whole, is better off by permanently banning them even though they were paying customers.
PS- Everyone that I kick out never thinks they've done anything wrong.
xavierj
11-30-2022, 02:00 PM
Wait, you were banned for repeating the same non-offensive thoughts or for saying something disrespectful about a poster or player again and again?
It would seem a bit odd to be banned for just repeating your point (as long as it is not personally attacking anyone). Why couldn’t other posters and the moderator of that site just simply stop responding to a poster posting repetitive messages that aren’t personally attacking anyone?
Kind of. Never attacked anyone. Just was frustrated with how the team was being coached. It’s all good though. Apparently there are some connected people who are on that board or view from a far that don’t like a ton of repeated negative bashing of coaches or the program. I get it.
Xville
11-30-2022, 02:18 PM
Kind of. Never attacked anyone. Just was frustrated with how the team was being coached. It’s all good though. Apparently there are some connected people who are on that board or view from a far that don’t like a ton of repeated negative bashing of coaches or the program. I get it.
Nothing like some good ole fashioned censorship
94GRAD
11-30-2022, 02:31 PM
Nothing like some good ole fashioned censorship
Muskie and the rest of the Moderators censor people here all the time for the betterment of the board.
Xville
11-30-2022, 02:38 PM
Muskie and the rest of the Moderators censor people here all the time for the betterment of the board.
There is censorship of things like hate speech or disinformation, sure. However, speaking negatively about a team or a coach should be wide open as long as it isn't personal. Sounds to me and judging by how XavierJ posts on here, that he got censored just for speaking negatively about the program and/or the coach.
D-West & PO-Z
11-30-2022, 02:46 PM
Miller probably would have been banned from the 247 board for his comments in his presser the other day! :laugh:
xavbball
11-30-2022, 02:48 PM
Kind of. Never attacked anyone. Just was frustrated with how the team was being coached. It’s all good though. Apparently there are some connected people who are on that board or view from a far that don’t like a ton of repeated negative bashing of coaches or the program. I get it.
That explains a lot actually. It's never felt like a message board for fans, considering you can't speak your mind.
Muskie
11-30-2022, 02:54 PM
Moderation of anything is very difficult. It's a thankless job. To me there's a fine line between criticism, constant criticism, and harassing posts. Our esteemed barkeep is correct, We have on occasion temporarily banned various posters after weeks or months of less restrictive measures.
We don't like to do it. But sometimes it happens. It's ultimately Rick's site to do as he sees fit over at 247. If Rick feels a violation of his TOS occurred, it's his call. Won't get any Monday Morning QBing out of me.
MuskiePimp23
02-15-2024, 10:34 PM
Asking for suggestions on how to get out of this subscription. I started this thread back in November of 2022 when Broering banned me from posting on the site. I was able to start posting again this week and Broering banned me again after clearly following the sites guidelines.
I have also messaged Rick asking to cancel my subscription and give me a prorated refund and I'm gone from that site. I have called 247 customer support as my subscription automatically renewed. I called one day after it renewed and asked to cancel and give me a prorated refund and they said they wouldn't. I spoke with a supervisor who also said tough luck and that I had to cancel before the auto renewal. Never seen a business do business like that. I called my credit card company to dispute it and they were working to get a refund back and that is going on 9 months. 247 the site is the worst customer service and way of doing business I've ever seen with a subscription service. Broering has good content bit there is no accountability and he acts like he's king of that kingdom. I've complained to 247 about Broering as well and nobody cares
Any suggestions how to cancel that subscription during the year and get a refund to be done with that site?
bobbiemcgee
02-15-2024, 10:55 PM
Dispute with your CC or bank.
MuskiePimp23
02-16-2024, 12:19 AM
Dispute with your CC or bank.
I did put in a dispute with my credit card. It's been 9 months and nothing has happened. I've called and the credit card company has indicated it's an open dispute. No traction since I started it.
Really wondering if anyone on this board has had a similar experience and had any success with canceling their subscription.
MHettel
02-16-2024, 01:49 AM
I did put in a dispute with my credit card. It's been 9 months and nothing has happened. I've called and the credit card company has indicated it's an open dispute. No traction since I started it.
Really wondering if anyone on this board has had a similar experience and had any success with canceling their subscription.
I don’t know what the annual fee is…. But I’d probably just write this one off.
Lesson learned! Or lesson learned?
Xavier
02-16-2024, 11:41 AM
I don’t really go over there during season but it was a good spot for transfer situations and guys we are looking at in the off-season. Slightly more info.
Of course, usually about 12-24 hours later it finds its way here.
xuwillie
02-16-2024, 12:02 PM
I don’t really go over there during season but it was a good spot for transfer situations and guys we are looking at in the off-season. Slightly more info.
Of course, usually about 12-24 hours later it finds its way here.
I'm a member over there and Rick is very average, A lot of fans just kiss his ass and tell him how great he is. He's also very sensitive which is kind of weird for the business he's in but whatever.
XUBoston
02-16-2024, 02:55 PM
I'm a member over there and Rick is very average, A lot of fans just kiss his ass and tell him how great he is. He's also very sensitive which is kind of weird for the business he's in but whatever.
Its a good site he always has some good information
Xavier
02-16-2024, 08:34 PM
The other board (247) is in full on panic mode that Sean is leaving in spring- even if it’s not OSU. It’s bizarre, but the last 6 years probably brings out the pessimism. (Outside of the blip of Sean’s first year last year, it’s been a bumpy ride)
Xville
02-16-2024, 08:46 PM
The other board (247) is in full on panic mode that Sean is leaving in spring- even if it’s not OSU. It’s bizarre, but the last 6 years probably brings out the pessimism. (Outside of the blip of Sean’s first year last year, it’s been a bumpy ride)
I don’t pay for his nonsense but I’m guessing he’s probably stirring the pot over there to get people to sign up. Miller isn’t going anywhere
Xavier
02-16-2024, 08:49 PM
That’s exactly what he’s doing. It was a vague with no real information post that leaned towards pessimism about Sean’s future. Rolling into a weekend where X doesn’t play. Just driving up views, which I suppose is his job.
Xville
02-16-2024, 08:52 PM
That’s exactly what he’s doing. It was a vague with no real information post that leaned towards pessimism about Sean’s future. Rolling into a weekend where X doesn’t play. Just driving up views, which I suppose is his job.
Yeah shocking. I don’t get the sense he is very well sourced at all and I also don’t get the sense he is exactly ra ra Xavier.
94GRAD
02-17-2024, 07:13 AM
Yeah shocking. I don’t get the sense he is very well sourced at all and I also don’t get the sense he is exactly ra ra Xavier.
He is actually really well sourced.
Xville
02-17-2024, 07:27 AM
He is actually really well sourced.
Outside of x and nku? I doubt it. Which is fine for most things, but for a coaching search, going to need more than that.
94GRAD
02-17-2024, 08:15 AM
Outside of x and nku? I doubt it. Which is fine for most things, but for a coaching search, going to need more than that.
He has connections throughout the college basketball landscape. Believe what you would like.
BigMoeMusketeer
02-20-2024, 07:59 AM
I don’t get the sense he is very well sourced at all and I also don’t get the sense he is exactly ra ra Xavier.
I'm not a big fan of his for several reasons, but he is VERY well connected locally and throughout College Hoops. I think your latter point is spot-on, he isn't a big Xavier guy by any means, and that occasionally creeps in. I don't think that is a problem for what he does, in fact I often find it endearing that he isn't an over-the-top homer (Xavier has enough of those, believe me) and provides a more neutral take.
I look at his peer at UC, Chad Brendel, and while it is fun that he is the biggest UC Homer on Earth, he lacks any and all objectivity around the Bearcats, so I'm not sure you want that either.
Xville
02-20-2024, 08:42 AM
I'm not a big fan of his for several reasons, but he is VERY well connected locally and throughout College Hoops. I think your latter point is spot-on, he isn't a big Xavier guy by any means, and that occasionally creeps in. I don't think that is a problem for what he does, in fact I often find it endearing that he isn't an over-the-top homer (Xavier has enough of those, believe me) and provides a more neutral take.
I look at his peer at UC, Chad Brendel, and while it is fun that he is the biggest UC Homer on Earth, he lacks any and all objectivity around the Bearcats, so I'm not sure you want that either.
Fair enough. I’ll take your word for it that he’s well connected but from his podcast and what I have seen that he has written that certainly doesn’t come across.
For what he does, I’d rather have a Xavier guy, that’s just my personal preference. Doesn’t need to be overly homerish but I don’t like boering’s vibe at all. He seems to have some weird chip on his shoulder. I’d much rather have someone like Paul F taking the reins.
Xville
02-20-2024, 09:08 AM
I’ll also add that Rick knew exactly what he was doing with his bs going into the weekend. It’s abundantly clear now that most of it was much ado about nothing and miller isn’t going anywhere. Does Xavier have some financial issues that need to be addresssed, absolutely. Doesn’t mean Sean is going anywhere, certainly not to Ohio state. Now if Louisville goes after him l, maybe. It’s a top ten program job.
BigMoeMusketeer
02-20-2024, 09:40 AM
For what he does, I’d rather have a Xavier guy, that’s just my personal preference. Doesn’t need to be overly homerish but I don’t like boering’s vibe at all. He seems to have some weird chip on his shoulder. I’d much rather have someone like Paul F taking the reins.
Certainly get your stance. The analogy I give people when this conversation has come up with people IRL is this: I LOVE the Bengals, but I absolutely never read Geoff Hobson because he works for the team and what he pushes out amounts to propaganda. I read / follow James Rapien, Tony Pike, Mo Egger, Joe Danneman, etc who at least land somewhere around pro-Bengals-neutral. I love Paul's work at Xavier, on Social, and everywhere else, but if he were running that site I'd lump it into the Geoff Hobson bucket on Bengals.com.
However, I realize everyone has their own preferences, so mine may not be for everyone.
fellahmuskie
02-20-2024, 09:51 AM
I'm not a big fan of his for several reasons, but he is VERY well connected locally and throughout College Hoops. I think your latter point is spot-on, he isn't a big Xavier guy by any means, and that occasionally creeps in. I don't think that is a problem for what he does, in fact I often find it endearing that he isn't an over-the-top homer (Xavier has enough of those, believe me) and provides a more neutral take.
I look at his peer at UC, Chad Brendel, and while it is fun that he is the biggest UC Homer on Earth, he lacks any and all objectivity around the Bearcats, so I'm not sure you want that either.
Yeah, Rick is way better than Chad in my book. I didn't like Rick's article last week, but, hey, if he helped drive a bunch of nil donors to the program, it could be worse.
He was very good to follow when we were trying to land Miller two years ago.
Xavier
02-20-2024, 02:42 PM
Chad is awful. Rick is head and shoulders better.
Jehoya
02-20-2024, 03:43 PM
Fair enough. I’ll take your word for it that he’s well connected but from his podcast and what I have seen that he has written that certainly doesn’t come across.
For what he does, I’d rather have a Xavier guy, that’s just my personal preference. Doesn’t need to be overly homerish but I don’t like boering’s vibe at all. He seems to have some weird chip on his shoulder. I’d much rather have someone like Paul F taking the reins.
1,000 percent agreed
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