2022-2023 (other) Big East Games

[Masterofreality]

DePaul took down Minnesota, but..
Butlatta went down to the Fighting Brian Snows
and Georgetown abjectly sucks again going down at home to Northwestern.
Georgetown just can't quit Ewing and the Thompson tree. To their detriment.

[American X]

Creighton lost the final to Arizona, but looked great overall in the Maui Invitational.

[X-band '01]

Baylor has been incredible tonight. And by incredible, I mean incredibly shitty. Marquette hit 13 of 15 shots at one point.

[noteggs]

Yeah, Marquette may be better than people thought… maybe. Guess the f’em comment may have inspired.

[GoMuskies]

Looks like Georgetown gave Texas Tech a good battle in Lubbock. I was checking out the Georgetown roster, and they've got some dudes on that team. They may be dangerous some nights. Obviously, they've got a terrible coach, so they won't be consistent, but they're going to win a few. Hopefully none of those are against us!

[noteggs]

Creighton looks beatable with perimeter D. Hopefully we can hold them for 3 for whatever they were tonight. Yeah I know, it was at Texas

[American X]

Don't know if Oklahoma Lite is any good, but UConn looked like a complete team dismantling them. Hawkins and Sanogo had the bigger games, but I was impressed by Andre Jackson. He looked like their version of Colby Jones, doing everything on the basketball floor.

[Xuperman]

The Huskies went to the line 33 times! You're gonna win a crap load of games like that, just how decades of Xavier teams used to do it. It really points directly to coaching IMO. Playing to contact has to be a mindset/culture.

UConn may sweep BOTH Big East Championships.......12/31/22 will tell us a lot!

[Xville]

Villanova is 2-5 and everyone has counted them out. However, they are down 2 starters, one of them being probably their best player in Moore. I still believe they will be tough in conference!

[X-band '01]

I can't recall the last time Creighton laid a big egg against Nebraska. Especially at home.

[UCGRAD4X]

Villanova is 2-5 and everyone has counted them out. However, they are down 2 starters, one of them being probably their best player in Moore. I still believe they will be tough in conference!

Am I misremembering or does V often start slowly and peak at the right time. Unlike you-know-who.

[X-band '01]

Not Nova. Kentucky has a habit of doing that and North Carolina is also pulling it off so far.

Villanova also had Cam Whitmore finally suit up on Saturday and get some minutes in their win against Oklahoma.

[American X]

BYU and Creighton are on a missionary trip together to Las Vegas?

[X-band '01]

Creighton's gonna be in a bad mood after Nebraska beat the Jays around on Sunday. Might not be as fun to watch as your typical BYU game.

[Xville]

Not Nova. Kentucky has a habit of doing that and North Carolina is also pulling it off so far.

Villanova also had Cam Whitmore finally suit up on Saturday and get some minutes in their win against Oklahoma.

Yeah whitmore will probably be starting very soon. That will certainly help them. Once Moore comes back (which I think is expected in January), nova should be good again.

[X-band '01]

Did Ryan Kalkbrenner just win the MVP award by not playing in the BYU game last night? Word was he was out due to illness (non-Covid) and now Creighton suddenly has a 4-game losing streak.

[GoMuskies]

Couple of real nice wins for the Big East today. Indiana sure couldn't pull off what Seton Hall did against Rutgers.

[xukeith]

Man, Ceighton blows chunks. From top 10 in polls to maybe an NIT team.

5 straight losses. Their big man was out but can't they beat Arizona St?

Hurley brothers are 21-1 .

[OTRMUSKIE]

Does Creighton have multiple people out or just one? They can’t be this bad. Something must be going on.

[Xville]

Does Creighton have multiple people out or just one? They can’t be this bad. Something must be going on.

Just kalkbrenner, but yeah they kind of suck. Maybe Hawkins and O’Connell were just way more important to the team last year than people thought

[Masterofreality]

Just kalkbrenner, but yeah they kind of suck. Maybe Hawkins and O’Connell were just way more important to the team last year than people thought

People seem to have figured out Nembhard

[X-band '01]

And Taylor Schiermann too, apparently. He's supposed to be filling the role that Hawkins had the year prior.

[Xville]

Pretty early but g town is beating uconn 25-23 on the road with 8 minutes left in the first half.

[GoMuskies]

Yeah, I don't think Georgetown ever had a lead on us.

[UCGRAD4X]

Yeah, I don't think Georgetown ever had a lead on us.

Means we're WAY better than UCONN. Just hand us the trophy now.

[GoMuskies]

Now Georgetown has taken a second half lead. Hurley must be fuming. Georgetown is probably preparing an extension for Ewing.

[GoMuskies]

UConn has got to be getting nervous. This is pretty unbelievable.

[X Factor]

Hoyas up 5! What was the line? UConn -23?

[Xville]

Grown up 5 with 13 minutes left. Maybe the be is there for the taking, or UConn is just drunk and high

[xu82]

Grown up 5 with 13 minutes left. Maybe the be is there for the taking, or UConn is just drunk and high

IDK, that’s probably more us than them! :-)

[paulxu]

Up 11, dribbling the clock out, and you jack up a last second shot?

It's like Hurley, who I don't like.

[Xville]

Should get a good sense of where St. John’s is this year, tonight. @villanova tonight, 5 point dogs

[Xville]

Didn’t realize that David jones has transferred to St. John’s. That guy is a stud

[bleedXblue]

St Johns going to be a handful

[X-band '01]

It was 31-22 Johnnies at one point late in the 1st half. 22-4 run by Nova since then.

[paulxu]

It's seems like a long time since I looked at the ESPN top 25 scoreboard on a night when Nova was playing...and they weren't there.

[Xville]

Welp, Villanova is good again, and they will only be better when Moore gets back presumably next month. I wouldn’t be that surprised if they are challenging uconn for the big East if he comes back soon.

[xukeith]

Does Nova play relatively good defense? Looks like only SJU's Soriano big man with much production.

[X Factor]

Does Nova play relatively good defense? Looks like only SJU's Soriano big man with much production.

According to the metrics (Kenpom, Torvik), they're a worse defensive team than Xavier.

[Xville]

Kalkbrenner back for creighton and destroying butler tonight.

[Masterofreality]

Beaknose’s Beak is Beakier than ever.
And he just looks tired.
Butler is not good.

[X-band '01]

To be fair, we never expected Butler to be good.

[xudash]

Beaknose’s Beak is Beakier than ever.
And he just looks tired.
Butler is not good.

MOR, it’s all about your second observation to me: he does look tired, and I wonder what his true stamina level is, given the requirements of the job.

Frankly, I have no doubt that Xavier won in the coaching hire stakes.

[Xville]

he looks like the oldest 55 year old on the planet. If you told me he was in his late 60s, I'd believe you.

[bleedXblue]

Yeah, I agree about Matta. During a timeout last night, they showed his team huddle and his words were less than motivational. He sounded tired, resigned and lifeless.

[XUGRAD80]

Marquette is pretty good. That is all.

[Xville]

Marquette is pretty good. That is all.

Yeah they have a lot of talent and Shaka can coach. I also think hall kinda sucks. They have great effort, but their offense is so abysmal. I think Holloway will get things going there but it won’t be this year.

[American X]

Villanova will still end up top four in the Big East and with a NCAA bid. UConn looked good, but not invincible.

[X-band '01]

It was the only game this year where UConn both failed to cover and win by double digits. And it's not like their noncon schedule was a complete slapfight, either.

[xavierj]

It was the only game this year where UConn both failed to cover and win by double digits. And it's not like their noncon schedule was a complete slapfight, either.

They didn’t cover against Georgetown. Favored by 22, won by 9.

[X Factor]

Providence up 18 on Butler at Hinkle

[X-band '01]

What's scary is that it was 28 at halftime. Butler did put up a better effort in the 2nd half, but man did they get smoked in the opening 20 minutes.

[Xville]

My gawd Georgetown is so badly coached. Ewing do the right thing and step down

[noteggs]

What’s the difference between watching DePaul and Georgetown vs AAU? Nothing! Except coaching may be better in AAU…

[noteggs]

As usual, fantastic crowd at Wintrust.

[Xville]

It’s just simply amazing how these programs continue to be so awful. There is zero excuse with the amount of high school talent in dc and Chicago for this absurd mediocrity year over year

[Xville]

It’s funny listening to the mental gymnastics that the play by play and color guy have had to do to explain how bad Georgetown is coached. Excuse after excuse… no, Ewing just can’t coach.

Also wahab should be an absolute stud at his size and he’s just a dude. The guy is massive and has no clue how to use it

[drudy23]

They stuck with John Thompson too long, they stuck with JTIII too long, and they will stick with Ewing for too long.

The sad thing, if they could get past the politics and history, a really good coach could resurrect it there. And it would draw some really good names if they actually opened it up outside of GTown legacy.

[noteggs]

It’s funny listening to the mental gymnastics that the play by play and color guy have had to do to explain how bad Georgetown is coached. Excuse after excuse… no, Ewing just can’t coach.

Also wahab should be an absolute stud at his size and he’s just a dude. The guy is massive and has no clue how to use it

To your last point, Wahab is an interesting case. Was very skilled as a freshman. Helped GU to BE championship during Sophomore year, but left after. Strange.

Didn’t do well at Maryland under Turgeon which is not a surprise. The dude has not progressed much since his freshman/sophomore year. Coaching or other?

[Xville]

To your last point, Wahab is an interesting case. Was very skilled as a freshman. Helped GU to BE championship during Sophomore year, but left after. Strange.

Didn’t do well at Maryland under Turgeon which is not a surprise. The dude has not progressed much since his freshman/sophomore year. Coaching or other?

I have no idea obviously but to me it looks like coaching because Fundamentally he is terrible; brings the ball down constantly so the guards can slap at it, no real post moves, has trouble passing out of post. Just weird. I agree that as a freshman and certainly as a soph I thought this guy is going to be a freaking problem the next couple of years, but nope just a guy. I feel bad for guys like that who have all the untapped potential in the world but the coaching they receive is such a disservice.

[XUGRAD80]

They stuck with John Thompson too long, they stuck with JTIII too long, and they will stick with Ewing for too long.

The sad thing, if they could get past the politics and history, a really good coach could resurrect it there. And it would draw some really good names if they actually opened it up outside of GTown legacy.

It’s amazing to me how many top 50 HS players from all the classes list Gtown as one of their potential landing sites, especially centers and forwards. Don’t they see the lack of crowds, the terrible coaching, and the consistent losing? Nope. All they seem to see is the school name and Ewing. Trouble is that neither mean much anymore. I’ve always felt that Ewing was somewhat of an underachiever when it comes to winning championships, either in college or the pros. He’s certainly an underachiever as a college coach. But yet he still seems to be a draw for recruits. I don’t get it.

[xukeith]

It’s amazing to me how many top 50 HS players from all the classes list Gtown as one of their potential landing sites, especially centers and forwards. Don’t they see the lack of crowds, the terrible coaching, and the consistent losing? Nope. All they seem to see is the school name and Ewing. Trouble is that neither mean much anymore. I’ve always felt that Ewing was somewhat of an underachiever when it comes to winning championships, either in college or the pros. He’s certainly an underachiever as a college coach. But yet he still seems to be a draw for recruits. I don’t get it.

Maybe the parents of recruits feel Ewing was a solid NBA player and he could steer recruits to the NBA. I think that is why Ewing, Stackhouse, Paulus, and other former athletes get hired at universities.

[D-West & PO-Z]

It’s amazing to me how many top 50 HS players from all the classes list Gtown as one of their potential landing sites, especially centers and forwards. Don’t they see the lack of crowds, the terrible coaching, and the consistent losing? Nope. All they seem to see is the school name and Ewing. Trouble is that neither mean much anymore. I’ve always felt that Ewing was somewhat of an underachiever when it comes to winning championships, either in college or the pros. He’s certainly an underachiever as a college coach. But yet he still seems to be a draw for recruits. I don’t get it.


Maybe the parents of recruits feel Ewing was a solid NBA player and he could steer recruits to the NBA. I think that is why Ewing, Stackhouse, Paulus, and other former athletes get hired at universities.

Ewing has been a disaster at Georgetown, everyone can agree there.

He was more than a "solid" NBA player, he is in the HOF and is a top 50 player all time.

As far as college, he won a championship and had probably the most successful 4 year college run of any player ever.

His downfall in the NBA in terms of championships (he went to 2 Finals) was playing basically his whole career in the same conference as Jordan. When Jordan took a hiatus, he went to the Finals and lost in game 7 to Hakeem, another all time great. John Starks had a miserable game.

Criticize Ewing as a college basketball coach all day every day, but as a player, whether college or NBA, he was a superstar.

[American X]

Ewing...had probably the most successful 4 year college run of any player ever.

Lew Alcindor probably has something to say about that.

[XUGRAD80]

Lew Alcindor probably has something to say about that.

And several others as well. I seem to remember an 88 game wining streak by some UCLA teams. Along with several back to back to back champs. ( 9 in 10 years) Didn’t Walton led teams win 3 and lose 1?

I did say that I thought that Ewing had underachieved in regards to CHAMPIONSHIPS. I didn’t say anything against his abilities or talent. In fact, based on his abundance of talent alone you’d have thought that he could carry his teams to more championships. I guess that just proves a point that I’ve made before that BB is a TEAM game. A lesser talented TEAM that plays as one will almost always find away to beat a superior talented group of individuals that don’t play together. If I had to guess, I’d guess that much more often than not the ultra talented star players are not as successful as coaches as the over achievers that became good players in spite of their lack of talent.

[GoMuskies]

If you want to depress yourself, bet on Georgetown and then watch them play. Gives you a window into the dark experience that is being a Hoya basketball fan.

[Xville]

If you want to depress yourself, bet on Georgetown and then watch them play. Gives you a window into the dark experience that is being a Hoya basketball fan.

It is truly shocking how badly coached they are. Spears and Murray are really talented players and so is wahab if he ever would get coached up. With just those three guys, they should be an 16 plus win team, and they aren’t going to sniff that

[Masterofreality]

GTown is actually making Butler look good-away from home.
When in the hell does Georgetown actually decide to cut ties with the John Thompson tree? Nothing but trash.
Or has the school gone so woke that it just doesn’t care anymore?
It’s a joke. 20,000 seat building, 1500 in the stands.

[GoMuskies]

What Butler is doing to Georgetown should be illegal.

[X-band '01]

GTown is actually making Butler look good-away from home.
When in the hell does Georgetown actually decide to cut ties with the John Thompson tree? Nothing but trash.
Or has the school gone so woke that it just doesn’t care anymore?
It’s a joke. 20,000 seat building, 1500 in the stands.

I think we've clearly established that Butler is #9, DePaul #10 and Georgetown #11 in the Big East pecking order.

[X-band '01]

On the other hand, I now wonder if it was a stroke of genius for everyone in the BE to throw the 2021 Tournament and let the Hoyas win.

[GoMuskies]

If Ewing still has a job tomorrow, Georgetown should be kicked out of the league.

Fordham is trying harder to win.

[GoMuskies]

I'm starting to view Xavier's 14 point win at Georgetown as a bad loss.

[Xavgrad08]

I was shocked Georgetown didn’t part ways with Ewing after last season. They didn’t get any conference wins. That is actually difficult to do. I wonder why Ewing doesn’t just resign? It can’t be the money because he made a ton as a player. He has to realize he is not the right guy for the job at this point. If Georgetown can over look character requirements hire Pitino. He will win there.

[X-band '01]

That and a near-miss at home against The Hall.

[drudy23]

Can Ewing really make it through two of the worst Big East seasons in a row?

Do the donors and alumni just revere him? Or have they had enough?

I'd have to think basketball is the main sports draw there - or have they become too woke to care?

[X-band '01]

The fact that Xavier/Tin Man was the last team that Georgetown beat in the Big East makes me want to throw 3 TVs at once out of my window.

[bjf123]

The fact that Xavier/Tin Man was the last team that Georgetown beat in the Big East makes me want to throw 3 TVs at once out of my window.

Hope it’s a big window.


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[Masterofreality]

I'm starting to view Xavier's 14 point win at Georgetown as a bad loss.

Hahahahahaha! POST OF THE YEAR!!! :-)

[UCGRAD4X]

Hahahahahaha! POST OF THE YEAR!!! :-)

I love this comment on New Year's Day.

[xukeith]

Butler beat Georgetown by 30. X beat Hoays by 14.

That now means Butler will beat X by 16.

[bleedXblue]

Can Ewing really make it through two of the worst Big East seasons in a row?

Do the donors and alumni just revere him? Or have they had enough?

I'd have to think basketball is the main sports draw there - or have they become too woke to care?

It really is amazing. I think they let him coach through the end of the year and then part ways. Ewing IS Georgetown. Now, he could always step down, but I dont think he's that kind of guy.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Lew Alcindor probably has something to say about that.

HA, yeah, good point. But weren't there only like 8 teams that made the tournament then?

[D-West & PO-Z]

And several others as well. I seem to remember an 88 game wining streak by some UCLA teams. Along with several back to back to back champs. ( 9 in 10 years) Didn’t Walton led teams win 3 and lose 1?

I did say that I thought that Ewing had underachieved in regards to CHAMPIONSHIPS. I didn’t say anything against his abilities or talent. In fact, based on his abundance of talent alone you’d have thought that he could carry his teams to more championships. I guess that just proves a point that I’ve made before that BB is a TEAM game. A lesser talented TEAM that plays as one will almost always find away to beat a superior talented group of individuals that don’t play together. If I had to guess, I’d guess that much more often than not the ultra talented star players are not as successful as coaches as the over achievers that became good players in spite of their lack of talent.

Except that everyone almost everyone Ewing lost to in the NBA to keep him from winning an NBA championship had a better star player than he was.

Jordan (numerous times), then Hakeem. He lost to another HOF'er a couple times in Reggie Miller, they were fairly similar in terms of superstar prowess.

I don't consider winning an NCAA championship in college (even only 1) as underachieving in winning championships.

[D-West & PO-Z]

The fact that Xavier/Tin Man was the last team that Georgetown beat in the Big East makes me want to throw 3 TVs at once out of my window.

Whenever remembering anything in the Tin Man era, just remember that the cumulative effect of all that terribleness was bringing Miller home. Makes that 4 year period easier to stomach.

[xudash]

Whenever remembering anything in the Tin Man era, just remember that the cumulative effect of all that terribleness was bringing Miller home. Makes that 4 year period easier to stomach.

Spot on.

[UCGRAD4X]

Whenever remembering anything in the Tin Man era, just remember that the cumulative effect of all that terribleness was bringing Miller home. Makes that 4 year period easier to stomach.

It is becoming more and more apparent just how dark those days were.

It's even a more stark contrast in coaching as was the All Access look into the Miller and Anderson huddles.

[drudy23]

St Johns continues to guard no one - Marquette seems very similar to us.

St Johns gets some easy buckets, but then gives up easy buckets on the other end.

[drudy23]

Whenever remembering anything in the Tin Man era, just remember that the cumulative effect of all that terribleness was bringing Miller home. Makes that 4 year period easier to stomach.

I'm still not over him stealing 2-3 NCAA tournaments from us because he was so damn stubborn.

[Masterofreality]

St Johns continues to guard no one - Marquette seems very similar to us.

St Johns gets some easy buckets, but then gives up easy buckets on the other end.

St John’s is amazingly undercoached.
What frauds

[XU 87]

St John’s is amazingly undercoached.
What frauds

He’s lifetime 431-246. He must know something.

[bleedXblue]

St Johns continues to guard no one - Marquette seems very similar to us.

St Johns gets some easy buckets, but then gives up easy buckets on the other end.

They're very easily the most undisciplined team in the Big East. They have marginal talent (really like Soriano) but don't play well together and play miserable defense.

[JAPER]

Marquette is looking strong either way you feel about St. John's.

Really like Kolek's game. Kid is a baller. He seems the key to their team at times.

Jan 15th will be a match-up of top 20's IMO should Marquette beat UConn at home on 01/23

[Xville]

Creighton is back, and seton hall sucks. Theres certainly a big divide between the haves and the have nots in the be this year, nova seems to be the only one that is meh ( who may end up being good by the end) eveyerone else is either good or complete crap

[xukeith]

Marquette, Creighton, X, and UConn look so far ahead of the bottom 6

[D-West & PO-Z]

Marquette, Creighton, X, and UConn look so far ahead of the bottom 6

Bottom 7 unless there is another team you’re putting right after those 4 not in the “bottom” group.

[Xville]

Bottom 7 unless there is another team you’re putting right after those 4 not in the “bottom” group.

I think providence may be good as well. We will find out soon enough tonight, but on paper they have a lot of talent in their starting five.

I also just saw that Justin Moore is starting to practice at Nova. If he is able to go this year, they should be a strong tournament candidate as well. He's not committing one way or the other though. He may just say eff it, and take the whole year off.

[xukeith]

I think providence may be good as well. We will find out soon enough tonight, but on paper they have a lot of talent in their starting five.

I also just saw that Justin Moore is starting to practice at Nova. If he is able to go this year, they should be a strong tournament candidate as well. He's not committing one way or the other though. He may just say eff it, and take the whole year off.

Villanovea needs to start winning for any hopes of post season.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Villanovea needs to start winning for any hopes of post season.

But don't start Saturday.

[bleedXblue]

Marquette, Creighton, X, and UConn look so far ahead of the bottom 6

6 horse race and it honestly could go to anyone. Ranked in order of likelihood of winning the BE

1. Xavier (of course) TIE
2. UCONN (of course) TIE
3. Creighton (getting healthy and have the horses)
4. Villanova (With Moore returning soon, they have enough talent and the pedigree)
5. Marquette (playing much better than anyone expected they would)
6. Providence( I have to admit, I don't know much about their team- Cooley can coach)

[Xville]

I haven't watched Providence much either but they have some dudes on that team. I'm looking forward to watching them tonight against UCONN. They have:

Bryce Hopkins (top 40 guy who went to UK and CAL wouldn't play for some reason....Whoops)
Devin Carter (Top 100 guy who went to South Carolina and averaged 9 ppg as a freshman)
Croswell (Played behind Nate last year but is averaging about 13 ppg now and is 6'8 240)
Bynum who we all know and seems like he should be in his eighth year by now
Noah Locke (originally top 100 guy who played at florida, then last year at louisville...consistently averaged 10 ppg a year)

[Masterofreality]

He’s lifetime 431-246. He must know something.

Does he? Did you watch the all access game?
Lots of buy games or he’s just lost it. His team is a fraud.

[Masterofreality]

It would be just like Georgetown to beat Villanova tonight, and piss them off royally before we have to play them in Philly Saturday.

[Masterofreality]

It would be just like Georgetown to beat Villanova tonight, and piss them off royally before we have to play them in Philly Saturday.

Cancel that last post. It’s Georgetown

[GoMuskies]

Cancel that last post. It’s Georgetown

Congrats to Georgetown on breaking DePaul's Big East record!

[Masterofreality]

Congrats to Georgetown on breaking DePaul's Big East record!

A record to cherish!!!!!
Congratulations Patrick!

[noteggs]

Weird I want UConn to win tonight

1) keep us in first place
2) we just beat them and will help our ranking

Don’t want them too…

1) can’t stand UConn’s fanbase
2) Hurley is a douche (but is a Bengals fan, so small credit)

[Masterofreality]

Karaban from UConn is gonna be a pain in the ass in the next 4 years.
One of those guys you think will have been in college for 8 years when he’s a Senior.

[Masterofreality]

Ed Cooley can coach, man.

And Dave Sims is an outstanding college basketball announcer. Good job by Fox to bring him on the broadcasts.

[Xville]

Welp, as I thought may be the case.. providence is good. They have some dudes.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Welp, as I thought may be the case.. providence is good. They have some dudes.

I don't know how they lost to SLU (although that was back when SLU appeared to be good). Their other losses are to current top 25 teams.

Friars looking really good tonight.

[Xville]

I don't know how they lost to SLU (although that was back when SLU appeared to be good). Their other losses are to current top 25 teams.

Friars looking really good tonight.

Think it may have been the case of it being relatively early in the r year and a bunch of new guys learning how to play together.

[Masterofreality]

UConn might think about stopping being such hacking butchers on the court.
Getting destroyed at the foul line again. It wasn’t just us.

[Masterofreality]

Providence has some hard steel dudes man. Cooley always has them play tough as nails.
They get every 50/50 ball. We’d better strap it up when we play them

[X-band '01]

I swear every time I watch a Providence game now they're mopping up the floor.

I don't want a 60-degree rainy day when Xavier goes up there and end up delaying the game with a leaky roof again.

[X-band '01]

Providence has some hard steel dudes man. Cooley always has them play tough as nails.
They get every 50/50 ball. We’d better strap it up when we play them

Ed Croswell and Alyn Breed are a couple guys returning from last year's team. Croswell especially is one of those guys you mentioned.

[Xuperman]

Welp, as I thought may be the case.. providence is good. They have some dudes.

You, and everyone else that pays close attention now that conference play has started. The MU 2OT highlights will show that this was coming, along with how they thoroughly de-Hinkled the Bulldogs.

Look, who knows what he was thinking, but Calipari royally F'd up with Hopkins. The man has become a coaching joke.

I personally marinade myself in BEast basketball. So, I'm looking around and clearly see Bryce Hopkins thrashing his way to BE POY....and don't think for a minute that Coach Cooley doesn't see that. Something special is unfolding as we speak, because the look in his eyes recently has been the basketball version of Ted Bundy....Stone-Cold-Killer. He appears to be un-guardable. UNLESS teams start game planning to bait him into some charges. That dribble drive through the paint is the best in the country IMO and HAS to be altered. Otherwise, he will FEAST on "the Hoop and the Harm" or get hacked trying. Either way, he will simply destroy you from the line......hide the women and children.

[bleedXblue]

6 horse race and it honestly could go to anyone. Ranked in order of likelihood of winning the BE

1. Xavier (of course) TIE
2. UCONN (of course) TIE
3. Creighton (getting healthy and have the horses)
4. Villanova (With Moore returning soon, they have enough talent and the pedigree)
5. Marquette (playing much better than anyone expected they would)
6. Providence( I have to admit, I don't know much about their team- Cooley can coach)

Made a few edits after last night LOL.

1. Xavier (of course) TIE
2. UCONN (of course) TIE
3. Providence( I have to admit, I don't know much about their team- Cooley can coach- they have some dudes)
4. Creighton (getting healthy and have the horses)
5. Villanova (With Moore returning soon, they have enough talent and the pedigree)
5. Marquette (playing much better than anyone expected they would)

[Smails]

That UCONN/Providence game was fun to watch..an absolute fist fight. That being said it looks like X may have rolled out the blueprint for beating UCONN (if you have the personnel). Attack the goal, double Sanogo and close out hard on the 3. That's back to back bad shooting nights for UCONN and they don't looks like they have an alternative strategy to shooting a lot of 3's. As douchey as he is, Hurley can definitely coach so I'm sure he'll adjust. UCONN needs to learn how to guard without fouling..

[Xville]

I know we say it every year, but man this conference is going to be a junkyard dog fight the next two months. Before conference play started it looked like UCONN and then everyone else, but that's not the case.

5 extremely good teams...maybe 6 if Nova gets Moore back.

[Xville]

Would gtown do something out of the box and hire pitino? He’s dirty but he’s a hell of a coach and would get them back to relevancy

[D-West & PO-Z]

I can't stand Pitino, and wouldn't want my team to hire him, but there is no denying the man is a fantastic coach. He is 70 but seems like one of those forever coaches.

[Xville]

I can't stand Pitino, and wouldn't want my team to hire him, but there is no denying the man is a fantastic coach. He is 70 but seems like one of those forever coaches.

Yeah just from a pure coaching standpoint probably one of the best of this generation. I doubt Georgetown will touch him, but he could make them relevant again.

One question for those who are more in the know...has Georgetown ever drawn well? Like in the Hibbert days, did people go to games? I know they are terrible, but its astonishing the lack of fan support they receive.

[bjf123]

Watching the end of the Creighton / UConn game. With under 90 seconds left and Hurley is yelling at someone on the floor, maybe Sanogo, to "run the fuck down there" after a foul is called and everyone is heading to the FT line. Everyone else was walking down the court. WTF?

[GoMuskies]

Georgetown playing well on the road at Marquette. Can they keep it up for 40 minutes?

[noteggs]

Amazing how Hawkins is still getting calls when he’s throwing his leg out on those 3’s!

[Xville]

Georgetown playing well on the road at Marquette. Can they keep it up for 40 minutes?

Let’s be serious

[Xville]

Do you believe in miracles? Would Georgetown winning the game be a bigger upset than us-ussr?

[muskiefan82]

Georgetown playing well on the road at Marquette. Can they keep it up for 40 minutes?

No

[muskiefan82]

Seton Hall and Georgetown are setting basketball back tonight.

[Masterofreality]

Seton Hall and Georgetown are setting basketball back tonight.

And Georgetown achieves another Set back.

[X-band '01]

I should also add Villanova's 22-game winning streak against DePaul is in jeopardy. Big East record is 23 (Syracuse against Seton Hall and UConn against BC).

[Masterofreality]

DePaul is getting absolutely hosed by the refs at home vs Nova.
And of course Charge O’Connell is on the crew

[XUWahoo]

DePaul prevails at home and breaks the 22-game losing streak to Villanova which dates back to 2008.

[muskiefan82]

I think a number of Villanova streaks might end this year. DePaul is one of 2 in the last couple days

[bleedXblue]

So refreshing to see Nova struggle. You don't lose a HOF coach and not see a set back of some type. When and IF Moore returns and is anywhere close to the player he was, Nova will be a tough out come tourney time. It may be too late for an auto bid for them. Also saw last night that Whitmore was projected to be a late first round pick and I think his stock is only going to go up. Dude can ball. I think they lose quite a bit this year and could also be rebuilding next year

[Xville]

So refreshing to see Nova struggle. You don't lose a HOF coach and not see a set back of some type. When and IF Moore returns and is anywhere close to the player he was, Nova will be a tough out come tourney time. It may be too late for an auto bid for them. Also saw last night that Whitmore was projected to be a late first round pick and I think his stock is only going to go up. Dude can ball. I think they lose quite a bit this year and could also be rebuilding next year

In most mock drafts, I have seen whitmore go in the lottery. The guy is built like he is 25, and an athletic freak.

In regards to Moore, I think it’s with most guys that have that kind of injury. Physically ready to go but mentally there is a big hurdle to overcome.

I don’t want nova to plummet because it’s good for the league for them to be good. I have a feeling they made a mistake with this hire. There’s enough talent to be a tourney team even without Moore, and as of now it doesn’t look like they are going to sniff it. I haven’t heard the guy speak, but from a product on the court standpoint, I’m getting Steele vibes

[GoMuskies]

UConn's ascendance is timely for the league given Nova's demise.

[Masterofreality]

And Villanova is definitely demised.
Losing to DePaul anywhere is a kiss of death.
The more I think about this, why did Villanova, I mean VILLANOVA, arguably a Blue Blood, rush to hire a guy who was a coach at Fordham for only one year?? He’s not even a Nova grad but went to Lehigh? I can only think that Wright must have been the deciding factor, but we saw how that worked out with Mack & Steele.
It just seems like Nova could have been picking from a prime field rather than a guy who never coached a post season game at a lousy basketball school.

[American X]

Congratulations to Villanova on finding their Travis Steele. After a rough non-conference and injuries, I assumed they would right the ship and make a run in Big East play, just because their name and talent is still Villanova. Even a new coach could steer that ship to a bid. Maybe not.

[Lloyd Braun]

Congratulations to Villanova on finding their Travis Steele. After a rough non-conference and injuries, I assumed they would right the ship and make a run in Big East play, just because their name and talent is still Villanova. Even a new coach could steer that ship to a bid. Maybe not.

Losing to Butler by 10 at half. Woof

[Masterofreality]

Nova 24/7 board is melting down right now.

[noteggs]

Losing to Butler by 10 at half. Woof

Without a few Butler players. Double woof…

[Masterofreality]

Order restored.
Nova 12-0 run to start half
Edit: 14-0

[X Factor]

Order unrestored again.

Nova is trash. Butler is going to win.

[xu82]

Nova 24/7 board is melting down right now.

I can’t know for sure, but it seems like they should be feeling like Patriots* fans right about now.

[JTG]

Nova has always had trouble at Hinkle. This is the 3rd or 4th time they've lost there.

[American X]

Both DePaul and Butler in the same week. Villanova has a problem. Do the rest of Big East teams need to stage an intervention?

[Masterofreality]

Order unrestored again.

Nova is trash. Butler is going to win.

Can we just say that the bottom 6 of the Big East this year are literally trash?
Amazing to say that.
Wednesday night at MSG in March is sponsored by Waste Management.

[X-band '01]

Seton Hall might be good enough to sneak out of the trash bin and into a first-round bye if things break right for the Pirates. They can't let an opportunity to get a road W slip away today.

[noteggs]

At this point in the season for Nova, why would Moore want to come back? The chances of him improving his stock is offset by hurting it at this point. Kinda like when college football players skipping bowl games sponsored by Deb and Bob’s video.

[Masterofreality]

At this point in the season for Nova, why would Moore want to come back? The chances of him improving his stock is offset by hurting it at this point. Kinda like when college football players skipping bowl games sponsored by Deb and Bob’s video.

And Nova has a killer schedule down the stretch. 7 games vs the top 5 plus roadies at Seton Hall and St. John’s.
Looks really bad

[muskiefan82]

Scheierman is just really, really good.

[X-band '01]

Is Creighton now remembering it was about this time last year they peed down their legs against Xavier in the 2nd half at home last year?

[Masterofreality]

Scheierman is just really, really good.

Yessir!

[Xville]

Kalkbrenner is really good.. creighton was pretty shitty without him.

[Three Point Pete]

Jays get upset 73-67 over Friars, streak is broken at 9. Kalkbrenner was tough in the paint and good at the line for 21 points.

Interesting to note Scheierman only 2 points in 2nd half and Nembhard 0 points.



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[xukeith]

One thing they both did today is play some solid defense. So that is what it looks like.

[X-band '01]

And there is sole possession of first place for X. Would be nice to keep it that way for a while.

[GoMuskies]

Jays get upset 73-67 over Friars, streak is broken at 9. Kalkbrenner was tough in the paint and good at the line for 21 points.

Interesting to note Scheierman only 2 points in 2nd half and Nembhard 0 points.



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Upset?

[Three Point Pete]

Upset?Jaya are not ranked, but beat #19 Friars. I was not surprised, Creighton is flying under the radar.

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[GoMuskies]

Creighton was an 8 point favorite. Providence winning would have been a big upset.

[xukeith]

I think with the exception of the X game in NE, Creighton should win out home games.

[Masterofreality]

Jaya are not ranked, but beat #19 Friars. I was not surprised, Creighton is flying under the radar.

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Not for long. With everybody back that is a solid basketball team with a fine Coach.

[X Factor]

St. John's is up 12 at UConn with 3 minutes left!

[American X]

Maybe those wins over UConn and Villanova were not such a big deal.

[UCGRAD4X]

Maybe those wins over UConn and Villanova were not such a big deal.

Was thinking the same thing. That's what makes this win against the Warriors (yes, I said it) so satisfying.

[profson]

PG play is key in college BB. Creighton, Marquette and X have it. UConn is at least as talented as those teams but PG play is mediocre

[xavierj]

Maybe those wins over UConn and Villanova were not such a big deal.

All wins in the Big East are big deals. UConn was 14-1 and winning at nova is nothing to apologize about. UConn has plenty of talent but they are in a rut. Xavier did that one year and went to the elite 8.

[X Factor]

All wins in the Big East are big deals. UConn was 14-1 and winning at nova is nothing to apologize about. UConn has plenty of talent but they are in a rut. Xavier did that one year and went to the elite 8.

Now the win at St. John's becomes a Q1 win for X.

[xukeith]

Now the win at St. John's becomes a Q1 win for X.

SJU would need a NET rating of 75 or better for Q1 away game. SJU has a NET rating of 89.

Now it is a Q2 game. Maybe they jump up to top 75.

[X Factor]

SJU would need a NET rating of 75 or better for Q1 away game. SJU has a NET rating of 89.

Now it is a Q2 game. Maybe they jump up to top 75.

You're right. I was looking at KenPom, where they're 61 now.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Now the win at St. John's becomes a Q1 win for X.

Hopefully. They need this win to jump them at least 12 spots for that to be the case.

[xukeith]

Maybe Seton Hall will surpass UConn before March.

[X-band '01]

Let this sink in for a moment - the bottom two teams in the Big East will be playing tomorrow on FS1. Never in a million years would have anyone guessed it would be Villanova and Georgetown.

[xudash]

Let this sink in for a moment - the bottom two teams in the Big East will be playing tomorrow on FS1. Never in a million years would have anyone guessed it would be Villanova and Georgetown.

Truly amazing.

Couple that with Xavier being first in the conference at this point. And this conference being the Big East. Just crazy and wonderful.

In honor of today’s game (hopefully, some of you younger guys can tolerate yet another old guy post), there was a time when Marquette would come to Cincinnati to play Xavier with Al McGuire as coach and they would murderize us in Schmidt Memorial Fieldhouse. We got to sit there and watch all of it while drinking Hudepohl beer (3.2).

Times have changed.

[X-band '01]

To your point, ESPN said this was the first time since 1968 that Xavier beat a ranked Marquette team. Was that the Cobra offense year?

[XUGRAD80]

Truly amazing.

Couple that with Xavier being first in the conference at this point. And this conference being the Big East. Just crazy and wonderful.

In honor of today’s game (hopefully, some of you younger guys can tolerate yet another old guy post), there was a time when Marquette would come to Cincinnati to play Xavier with Al McGuire as coach and they would murderize us in Schmidt Memorial Fieldhouse. We got to sit there and watch all of it while drinking Hudepohl beer (3.2).

Times have changed.

Jerome Whitehead still scares me. :blackeye:

[D-West & PO-Z]

SJU would need a NET rating of 75 or better for Q1 away game. SJU has a NET rating of 89.

Now it is a Q2 game. Maybe they jump up to top 75.


You're right. I was looking at KenPom, where they're 61 now.


Hopefully. They need this win to jump them at least 12 spots for that to be the case.

St. Johns is now #78 in the NET, almost there!

[UCGRAD4X]

I wonder how much you paid for the privilege of drinking the Hudepohl...or was it "fraternity supplied"?

[hoopster68]

Truly amazing.

Couple that with Xavier being first in the conference at this point. And this conference being the Big East. Just crazy and wonderful.

In honor of today’s game (hopefully, some of you younger guys can tolerate yet another old guy post), there was a time when Marquette would come to Cincinnati to play Xavier with Al McGuire as coach and they would murderize us in Schmidt Memorial Fieldhouse. We got to sit there and watch all of it while drinking Hudepohl beer (3.2).

Times have changed.

While holding a 3.2 Hudy at halftime, I'd also have a Winston; the smoke hung over the Fieldhouse in the second half. Great memories!

[XUWahoo]

To your point, ESPN said this was the first time since 1968 that Xavier beat a ranked Marquette team. Was that the Cobra offense year?

It was also the Bob Quick era. The Marquette game was the next to last game of the 67-68 season on the schedule (last game of the year at Schmidt, aka "The Pit"). Marquette was apparently ranked #8 at the time. The we beat UC by a point for the finale of that season.

[paulxu]

And our beer didn't come from "fraternities" as there weren't any.
We also beat UC in football that year.

And spent a lot of time in Dana's.

[Xville]

Is Georgetown really going to do this? #doyoubelieveinmiracles?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Is Georgetown really going to do this? #doyoubelieveinmiracles?

Placed a $2 bet on them at +800 just now. Might as well burn my money, lol!

[muskiefan82]

No one wants to be the first team to lose to Georgetown. I'm glad Steele didn't have to make that road trip last year

[Xville]

Placed a $2 bet on them at +800 just now. Might as well burn my money, lol!

Primo spears may take you to the promise land… he’s a bad man when he’s on

[Xville]

Yikes or not lol

[D-West & PO-Z]

Ugh, should have bought a mega millions ticket instead.

[XUWahoo]

While holding a 3.2 Hudy at halftime, I'd also have a Winston; the smoke hung over the Fieldhouse in the second half. Great memories!

3.2 beer was also served at the mixers in the Amory. Anyone remember that little old guy who would walk around during the basketball games selling concessions? I believe he had a picture in one of the Musketeer yearbooks but there was no caption with it. Anybody know his name?

[XUWahoo]

I went by Schmidt last year during a visit to Cincinnati (have been doing that fairly frequently lately) and there is still a sign over the ticket window:

"Xavier University
Athletic Admission
Prices
Adult $5.00
Youth (under 18) $3.00..."

Of course, students, faculty, etc got in free with valid ID.

[xudash]

Jerome Whitehead still scares me. :blackeye:

Ha! Yes, so true.

[xudash]

I wonder how much you paid for the privilege of drinking the Hudepohl...or was it "fraternity supplied"?

Oh, we had to pay for it. And it was not worth every ounce of it.

I take you back to Rip Torn's excellent line in MEN IN BLACK, "we're not hosting an intergalactic kegger down here". Of course, he would have learned otherwise if he had simply made it out of New York to visit the Queen City back then. We could see all kinds of things by 2 AM before rolling down to Bob's for an omellete. That probably involved more than keg beer, but I digress.

It's fun to have become a grown-up, having survived a Jesuit education.

HOOPSTER68, great recall on the smoke wafting up in the rafters. I don't believe it was all from cigarettes. Damn, how times have changed.

[X-band '01]

I went by Schmidt last year during a visit to Cincinnati (have been doing that fairly frequently lately) and there is still a sign over the ticket window:

"Xavier University
Athletic Admission
Prices
Adult $5.00
Youth (under 18) $3.00..."

Of course, students, faculty, etc got in free with valid ID.

That would have been the prices for women's BB and volleyball. They still would have had the old A-10 logos on the court before demolition.

[Masterofreality]

To your point, ESPN said this was the first time since 1968 that Xavier beat a ranked Marquette team. Was that the Cobra offense year?

You are correct! Bob. “Cobra” Quick, future NBA player, recruited by Don Ruberg, went OFF in two straight games.
Coach George Krajack finally got his ass out of the way and basically stopped coaching. He merely told Quick that in the next two games he was “The Guy”, to take over the ball, make the decisions and make the plays. That’s basically what the Cobra Offense was.
Result?
Quick had 40 vs Marquette in the second last game of that season and sparked an OT win, then a week later had 38 in a 72-71 win over Clifton Community College.
Season final record? 10-16 with two future NBA players on the roster.
That’s why George Krajack was done at X after 4 years, and never coached another college game.

[paulxu]

And DQ delivered to the dorms...all night.

[xudash]

You are correct! Bob. “Cobra” Quick, future NBA player, recruited by Don Ruberg, went OFF in two straight games.
Coach George Krajack finally got his ass out of the way and basically stopped coaching. He merely told Quick that in the next two games he was “The Guy”, to take over the ball, make the decisions and make the plays. That’s basically what the Cobra Offense was.
Result?
Quick had 40 vs Marquette in the second last game of that season and sparked an OT win, then a week later had 38 in a 72-71 win over Clifton Community College.
Season final record? 10-16 with two future NBA players on the roster.
That’s why George Krajack was done at X after 4 years, and never coached another college game.

Maybe one of those ancestry services to see if Steele and Krajack are in the same family tree.

[XUGRAD80]

That would have been the prices for women's BB and volleyball. They still would have had the old A-10 logos on the court before demolition.

I was in there a couple of years ago, and yes the A-10 logos were still on the floor. It was very sad to see how they had let it deteriorate over the years. :scaredtodeath:

[xudash]

I was in there a couple of years ago, and yes the A-10 logos were still on the floor. It was very sad to see how they had let it deteriorate over the years. :scaredtodeath:

I doubt that it will be standing much longer.

[XUGRAD80]

I doubt that it will be standing much longer.

I’ve heard that the plan is to tear it down this year. I hope that I have the chance to get some mementos before they do.

[Masterofreality]

I’ve heard that the plan is to tear it down this year. I hope that I have the chance to get some mementos before they do.

Just got verification from a high inside source that Schmidt will not be torn down this year or probably next year either. There are some other higher priorities for money than that. Eventually yes, but unless there appears to be structural failure in the near term months, it will stay for a couple of years at least.
There is a longer term plan for that whole vicinity.

[XUGRAD80]

Just got verification from a high inside source that Schmidt will not be torn down this year or probably next year either. There are some other higher priorities for money than that. Eventually yes, but unless there appears to be structural failure in the near term months, it will stay for a couple of years at least.
There is a longer term plan for that whole vicinity.

Happy to hear that.

[Masterofreality]

I’m still amazed that we were able to hold Kaluma from Creighton down in our game. Guy is so quick and athletic and is a matchup problem.
Creighton playing Butler right now.

[X-band '01]

Just got verification from a high inside source that Schmidt will not be torn down this year or probably next year either. There are some other higher priorities for money than that. Eventually yes, but unless there appears to be structural failure in the near term months, it will stay for a couple of years at least.
There is a longer term plan for that whole vicinity.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_YO03NE-n8

Anyone want to take a moped and get an updated look at Schmidt?

[Masterofreality]

Lukosius is the only guy Butler has.
Stop him and you cut off their head.

[profson]

You are correct! Bob. “Cobra” Quick, future NBA player, recruited by Don Ruberg, went OFF in two straight games.
Coach George Krajack finally got his ass out of the way and basically stopped coaching. He merely told Quick that in the next two games he was “The Guy”, to take over the ball, make the decisions and make the plays. That’s basically what the Cobra Offense was.
Result?
Quick had 40 vs Marquette in the second last game of that season and sparked an OT win, then a week later had 38 in a 72-71 win over Clifton Community College.
Season final record? 10-16 with two future NBA players on the roster.
That’s why George Krajack was done at X after 4 years, and never coached another college game.

He was 22 for 24 from the FT line vs Marquette. Terrific athlete, local kid (Hughes HS). No one was as good for X for at least 15 years thereafter (Byron). He deserves to be remembered more. Would have had a longer NBA player but for an injury.

[X-band '01]

How on earth did Butler beat Kansas State earlier in the year? They've looked like dog shit outside of that game.

[D-West & PO-Z]

How on earth did Butler beat Kansas State earlier in the year? They've looked like dog shit outside of that game.

Yeah no idea. K State just took down Kansas too.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Didn't realize until just now that Keyontae Johnson was playing basketball again. Good for him. Guessing he was eventually cleared by docs.

[bjf123]

You are correct! Bob. “Cobra” Quick, future NBA player, recruited by Don Ruberg, went OFF in two straight games.
Coach George Krajack finally got his ass out of the way and basically stopped coaching. He merely told Quick that in the next two games he was “The Guy”, to take over the ball, make the decisions and make the plays. That’s basically what the Cobra Offense was.
Result?
Quick had 40 vs Marquette in the second last game of that season and sparked an OT win, then a week later had 38 in a 72-71 win over Clifton Community College.
Season final record? 10-16 with two future NBA players on the roster.
That’s why George Krajack was done at X after 4 years, and never coached another college game.

Wasn’t Luther Rackley playing at the same time? I remember watching both of them play. My dad had season tickets right behind the scorers table.


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[Masterofreality]

Wasn’t Luther Rackley playing at the same time? I remember watching both of them play. My dad had season tickets right behind the scorers table.


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Yup. Hence the “two future NBA players”.
I’m not sure Luther played in those games though. He was academically ineligible for a semester. Might have been that one.
Don Ruberg could recruit. Never should have been let go

[Masterofreality]

UConn vs Seton Hall will be interesting.

From a New Jersey guy I know who is a Seton Hall insider:
“Danny Hurley and his assistant coach won’t be there tonight due to Covid. Word on street is a lot of unrest in UConn locker room also with a number of players threatening to transfer.”
Hmmmmmmm. Hurley is a nut.

[paulxu]

He's like the BE version of little Mick.

[Xville]

Real inside info considering it was on every sports outlet around noon.

UConn putting all their frustrations out on seton hall. I don’t believe the transfer nonsense, but hey maybe they are playing better without Hurley on the sidelines

[noteggs]

Weird seeing Luke roaming the sidelines. Can’t help to hear “but if I kill all the golfers”

[Xville]

Wow… nice win and comeback by the hall. UConn needs an ekg…. X fucked them up

[X-band '01]

They're getting an EKG for one day at least. They are an atrocious matchup for Butler no matter where they play.

[muskiefan82]

Did Thad need the money? Wow. Why?

[X-band '01]

UConn should also stick with their uniforms that they wore today. Also some good late 90s throwbacks.

UC's "The Clap" uniforms should also be incinerated along with the blue and gold X jerseys.

[JTG]

Did Thad need the money? Wow. Why?

Thad is Butler's Ad next door neighbor. The AD talked Thad into the job. No he doesn't need the money and I wouldn't be surprised if he begs out stating health issues come mid March.

[Xville]

The game of the century is on right now… DePaul at gtown! Man, who has been waiting all year for this one?

[Smails]

The game of the century is on right now… DePaul at gtown! Man, who has been waiting all year for this one?

I bet that game.. such a degenerate

[Xville]

Georgetown may actually do this!

[XUGRAD80]

Congratulations to Gtown for finally winning a BE game. No surprise that it was DePaul that they beat.

[GoMuskies]

Patrick Ewing extension incoming.

[Masterofreality]

Patrick Ewing extension incoming.

At least that win finally erases the stink of The Former Guy being the last Big East Coach to lose to Patrick Ewing. Good riddance.
KyKy was going off in that game then never saw the floor again.

[X-band '01]

Meanwhile, I'm convinced Butler is not going to even try to be competitive until they host Xavier in a couple of weeks. There is a clear dropoff right now between teams 6-9 in the league (Seton Hall, Villanova, St. John's and DePaul) and the bottom 2 of Butler and Georgetown.

[American X]

Meanwhile, I'm convinced Butler is not going to even try to be competitive until they host Xavier in a couple of weeks. There is a clear dropoff right now between teams 6-9 in the league (Seton Hall, Villanova, St. John's and DePaul) and the bottom 2 of Butler and Georgetown.

The annual Butler turns into the '86 Celtics when playing Xavier.

[X-band '01]

Justin Moore is back for Villanova today. Will be real interested to see what they look like with him back in the starting lineup.

[Xville]

Justin Moore is back for Villanova today. Will be real interested to see what they look like with him back in the starting lineup.

One hell of a starting lineup now.. not much depth… but not having to play arcidiacano many minutes is a gigantic lift. After thinking about it some more, I think providence gets their butts handed to them today

Two first round draft picks in the starting lineup; one of them a lottery pick. No other be team has that amount of talent in their lineup.

[X-band '01]

Jordan Longino is the only other Nova player that's still dealing with an injury issue (hamstring) as far as I know; they're still not completely healthy yet.

[noteggs]

While watching Nova and PC, Brando actually called O’Connell one of best refs in college basketball. Interesting take.

[Xville]

Gutsy win by providence there.. Bynum was the difference at the end.

Should be a tough tilt on Wednesday

[X-band '01]

That 5-point swing where the Friars blocked a Nova layup and followed with a Bynum 3 was a killer.

[noteggs]

Gutsy win by providence there.. Bynum was the difference at the end.

Should be a tough tilt on Wednesday

Yeah considering our troubles with opposing PGs. Will be interesting for sure.

[xukeith]

If X, Marquette, Providence, and Creighton all tie at 16-4, who wins the tiebreaker?

[Masterofreality]

If X, Marquette, Providence, and Creighton all tie at 16-4, who wins the tiebreaker?

Is that assuming these teams split all games amongst each other?

[X-band '01]

Xavier has an edge in that they've swept UConn; other teams will have to match that. Best Creighton could do would be a split against the Huskies; Marquette and Providence still have to go on the road against UConn. As long as Xavier beats Providence at least once, the Musketeers will be in good shape provided UConn finishes in 5th. Records against Seton Hall and Villanova could potentially come into play.

[xukeith]

I am assuming Marquette loses at UConn and at Creighton. Providence loses at X and at UConn, Creighton loses at Providence. and X loses at Providence and at Marquette. Marquette, Providence, X and Creighton would end up 16-4. Since X swept UConn, that helps or X record vs DePaul?

[GoMuskies]

Georgetown ALMOST won at St. John's yesterday. The Hoyas are actually playing a bit better of late. They may end up wishing they'd have fired Ewing a few weeks ago if they somehow with 3 or 4 more games down the stretch.

[Three Point Pete]

I think it is very possible for Creighton to win out at 17-3, counting schedule advantage.

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[X-band '01]

I am assuming Marquette loses at UConn and at Creighton. Providence loses at X and at UConn, Creighton loses at Providence. and X loses at Providence and at Marquette. Marquette, Providence, X and Creighton would end up 16-4. Since X swept UConn, that helps or X record vs DePaul?

Head-to-head record is the first tiebreaker (or best record within a group if 3 or more teams are involved). Next tiebreaker is best record vs. 1st place team, 2nd place team, etc. That's why beating Providence on Wednesday has more urgency to it.

[X-band '01]

I think it is very possible for Creighton to win out at 17-3, counting schedule advantage.

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They still have to go to Providence - winning there is possible but far from a gimme.

[Xuperman]

I think it is very possible for Creighton to win out at 17-3, counting schedule advantage.

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No doubt Creighton is going to pile up wins in the lead up to MSG...doesn't really matter how many. However, I see UConn making a similar run....could easily take out CU at the CHI. I safely predict they end up in the top 5.

So, that "scrum" in the middle would have Nova, SHU, SJU playing on dreaded Wednesday. Does Justin Moore's return have Villanova poised to get the 6? I think it does, and likely plays the #3 on Thursday.

Man, eeking out a #1 or #2 would sure be nice. I do think the #3 ends up with VU and the 4-5 will just be brutal regardless. 15-5 now looks awful good for X....will that be good enough for a top 2?

As stated previously, sweeping PC is totally doable and could seal the deal. Let's GO X!!!

[Three Point Pete]

Huskies picked up road win, drubbing DePaul 90-76. Three starters had 20+ point game.
Announcers kept saying that DePaul beat Xavier, but didn't mention our UConn sweep.
I think UConn will hold serve against Marq. and Prov. making the battle for BE crown very close.

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[paulxu]

Hard to imagine after 10 games of BE play, that Nova is below .500 for the season, and in the league.

[Xville]

Hard to imagine after 10 games of BE play, that Nova is below .500 for the season, and in the league.

I think they are back though. They have dug themselves to big a hole, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see them make quite a run to end the season

[Three Point Pete]

I think they are back though. They have dug themselves to big a hole, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see them make quite a run to end the seasonI don't think they are all the way there played a very sloppy game @Marquette with about 20 TOs missing some easy shots. Game was closer than score indicates, Nova fell apart in last few minutes on the short end of a15-3 run. They choked pure and simple.

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[Masterofreality]

Watching Georgetown play makes me want to eat broken glass.
Such a Clusterf%#k.

[X-band '01]

Just think, if UConn finishes 6th in the Big East they'll get to play Georgetown one more time in the BE tournament.