2022-2023 (other) Big East Games

[X-band '01]

And if Butler hadn't committed a bonehead flagrant at the end of the 1st half, they'd really be giving Marquette a scare right about now.

[X-band '01]

Now we're seeing what Creighton looks like when fouls are actually called.

[Three Point Pete]

Nova played much better, and almost pulled off the upset, but missed the game winning shot. Looking at their schedule, and finally getting healthy, Nova should grab some wins.
6 straight wins for Creighton largely because they have best defense in conference and showed toughness until the end.

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[GoMuskies]

Nova is going to be scary as shit going forward. Hopefully we avoid them in MSG.

[xavierj]

Nova is going to be scary as shit going forward. Hopefully we avoid them in MSG.

Yeah they have been in the last three games but they can’t close. 0-3 and had leads in all late in the 2nd half since Moore returned.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Nova is going to be scary as shit going forward. Hopefully we avoid them in MSG.

Neptune is clearly holding them back. Not to say he wont figure it out and be a good coach but havent seen anything from him that has made them better. Nova does not concern me in the least.

They average 70 pts a game and have averaged 64.8 their last 5 games and 63 their last 3 games against the top of the BE.

Xavier defense is still an issue but Nova can't score with Xavier.

[X-band '01]

Umm, did Seton Hall remember they had a noon game today?

[GoMuskies]

UConn leading #1 South Carolina late second quarter.

[paulxu]

UConn leading #1 South Carolina late second quarter.

Lady Cocks pulled it out....er....they won.

[smileyy]

I don't know how the UConn women are doing what they are doing with only (effectively) 6 players. I thought Geno was toast but I guess I'm wrong.

[xukeith]

Umm, did Seton Hall remember they had a noon game today?

They shot an obscene amount of freethrows. 45 to be exact. DePaul fans are you alive and protesting?

[Masterofreality]

Umm, did Seton Hall remember they had a noon game today?

Their memory cleared by 12:30.

[Xville]

Some fun and interesting games this week:

Marquette at uconn Tuesday
Creighton at hall Wednesday
UConn at creighton Saturday
Hall at nova Saturday

Love this conference

[D-West & PO-Z]

A 2-0 week from UConn would be glorious for Xavier. Most importantly though, we need UConn to hold serve at home Tuesday.

[X-band '01]

Technically it wouldn't be essential if Xavier were to sweep teams like Marquette and Providence, but that is asking a lot of this team. I do like UConn's chances for at least 1 win this week.

[HenryMuto]

UCONN with the 3 point bank shot at the buzzer to lead 46-29! Let's go UCONN !!!!!!!!!!!

[HenryMuto]

Technically it wouldn't be essential if Xavier were to sweep teams like Marquette and Providence, but that is asking a lot of this team. I do like UConn's chances for at least 1 win this week.

If they do split them winning vs Marquette would be better (and I do expect them to lose at Creighton) so need to get this Marquette game to give us a little breathing room knowing we have to still go down to Marquette.

[muskiefan82]

I'm such a huge UConn fan right now

[xudash]

How about that crowd in the Zeppelin Hangar.

[Three Point Pete]

How about that crowd in the Zeppelin Hangar.Kinda quiet now. Redmen playing well 50% FG and are up 7 at halftime

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[KabeX]

Can't believe I'm rooting (not the correct term) for Futler. My gawd they suck.

[KabeX]

Can't believe I'm rooting (not the correct term) for Futler. My gawd they suck.
Jezus the Johnnies suck as much!

[X-band '01]

And the Johnnies have joined an elite club of getting screwed at Butler!

[OTRMUSKIE]

Another shot clock malfunction. That ball was not tipped and the clock should have started till the ball touch the Johnnies hand. That game should have went to OT. Man Beak Nose is looking more and more like Dennis hopper in Hoosiers. Drunk and run down.

[Xuperman]

Man, the Butler program is in complete shambles. It looks as though they have absolutely nothing to build on. They are going to be under some serious pressure to be flawless in the portal going forward.

[X-band '01]

I expect to read in the next 3 days how The Portal is not part of The Butler Way.

[Xuperman]

I expect to read in the next 3 days how The Portal is not part of The Butler Way.

Regardless, when they become irrelevant...our replacement rivalry looks to be CU.

[Xuperman]

For all intents and purposes, the basic structure of the BE tourney is pretty clear.

Not at all looking like SHU can move up their seeding position with that brutal remaining schedule. They have 4 more with the ranked teams and both Nova games left....they are playing on Wednesday. Nova is in too deep of a hole to have any chance of a 1st round bye.

So really, the top 5 is set. So, UConn would basically have to win out to avoid the 4-5 and who ends up with the dreaded task of playing them on Thursday, is anybody's guess. Highly unlikely it is our Musketeers. Odds are we end up 15-5 and our 2nd RS Championship...16-4 and it's outright IMO.

Xup predicts, SJU- UCONN- MARQUETTE= NET CUTTING CEREMONY!!!

:read:

[MADXSTER]

Another shot clock malfunction. That ball was not tipped and the clock should have started till the ball touch the Johnnies hand. That game should have went to OT. Man Beak Nose is looking more and more like Dennis hopper in Hoosiers. Drunk and run down.

Agree 100%

[xavierj]

Another shot clock malfunction. That ball was not tipped and the clock should have started till the ball touch the Johnnies hand. That game should have went to OT. Man Beak Nose is looking more and more like Dennis hopper in Hoosiers. Drunk and run down.

St. John’s should have won in regulation. How do you not score the last 4 minutes of the game. I mean surely the coach has at least one sure fire play he can run to get a bucket, right? Awful.

[Xville]

Saw the replay this morning…yikes. Can we kick butler out of the league yet? F that program.

Anyways, I think the hall rolls tonight vs creighton… they need the win and the crowd will get them the w. Should be a good one! What an awesome league minus butler.

[D-West & PO-Z]

For all intents and purposes, the basic structure of the BE tourney is pretty clear.

Not at all looking like SHU can move up their seeding position with that brutal remaining schedule. They have 4 more with the ranked teams and both Nova games left....they are playing on Wednesday. Nova is in too deep of a hole to have any chance of a 1st round bye.

So really, the top 5 is set. So, UConn would basically have to win out to avoid the 4-5 and who ends up with the dreaded task of playing them on Thursday, is anybody's guess. Highly unlikely it is our Musketeers. Odds are we end up 15-5 and our 2nd RS Championship...16-4 and it's outright IMO.

Xup predicts, SJU- UCONN- MARQUETTE= NET CUTTING CEREMONY!!!

:read:

I think we need to go 16-4 to win. And I think we will be tied but win the tie breakers for the 1 seed. If everyone wins the games they are supposed to win (big if) it X could very well end up in a 4 way tie at 16-4 in the BE.

15-5 isn't going to win us the BE, I don't think.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Saw the replay this morning…yikes. Can we kick butler out of the league yet? F that program.

Anyways, I think the hall rolls tonight vs creighton… they need the win and the crowd will get them the w. Should be a good one! What an awesome league minus butler.

That would be big for X. If Creighton loses tonight, I think they end up 15-5.

[Masterofreality]

St. John’s should have won in regulation. How do you not score the last 4 minutes of the game. I mean surely the coach has at least one sure fire play he can run to get a bucket, right? Awful.

The clock starting early was a joke and a screw job to St. John’s but the above is correct.
And it just goes to what I said before about Anderson. Good coach early but has never changed and the game has.
He won’t have a losing season again but a lot of mediocre & nondescript.

[HenryMuto]

Ok your turn Seton Hall do us a solid!

[Xville]

That was a highly entertaining first half. Great game so far, hopefully the second is like the first except seton hall wins it by a few points. Holloway can coach.

[Xville]

Well the hall tried. Kinda hard to beat someone when they shoot 60 percent from the floor.

[Three Point Pete]

Well the hall tried. Kinda hard to beat someone when they shoot 60 percent from the floor.And close out the game on a 22-7 run. This squad is better than their record suggests.

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[GoMuskies]

UConn's women had not lost back to back games in 30 years until last night. That's unbelievable.

Geno is now a smooth 1,170-154 in his 38 seasons at UConn. 39 of those 154 losses came in his first two seasons. Over the last 35 seasons, he's averaged 3.3 losses per year.

[HenryMuto]

25-9 lead blown by Saint John's now only up 2 pts at half

[smileyy]

Pulling hard for that Providence loss...

[noteggs]

Yea looks like St John’s is did us a solid!

[bjf123]

Yea looks like St John’s is did us a solid!

Let’s see if UConn can do the same!


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[Masterofreality]

Thanks Johnnies.
We still control our destiny, but Marquette is a must win.
Providence has a really tough road to finish. Need for UConn to show up and out.

[xukeith]

We want UConn to beat Creighton correct?

[X-band '01]

Correct. Xavier is far enough ahead of UConn and Creighton has been playing the best ball in the Big East right now.

[HenryMuto]

Unreal Hawkins foot on the line

[bjf123]

Unreal Hawkins foot on the line

Just not our weekend.


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[HenryMuto]

UCONN needs to save that timeout in case of a missed FT here. Do not blow this timeout.

[HenryMuto]

Just not our weekend.


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You ain't kidding my worst week / weekend of the year as a fan of all my teams.

[Xville]

Kinda starting to find creighton annoying to be honest. Not butler level but there’s something about McDermott that screams used car salesman to me

[HenryMuto]

In this situation why not have already set up a play to get a pass to half court then use your timeout. If you can do that you get the ball side out of bounds way closer to the basket even if your only 1 inch across half court.

I never will understand coaching.

Now you need a long pass and shot or a long shot.

[HenryMuto]

Kinda starting to find creighton annoying to be honest. Not butler level but there’s something about McDermott that screams used car salesman to me

What is really annoying is how Creighton never fouls

[HenryMuto]

Great last play....................

[GoMuskies]

Kinda starting to find creighton annoying to be honest. Not butler level but there’s something about McDermott that screams used car salesman to me

I got Creighton at 50-1 to win it all right before we played them, and that's helping me to stomach them.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Kinda starting to find creighton annoying to be honest. Not butler level but there’s something about McDermott that screams used car salesman to me

I don't mind them and have always thought McDermott was a solid coach. The most annoying thing about him and Creighton though is they usually shit the bed in the tournament. Was it last year or the year before though where they finally broke through to the sweet 16? Every good team before that though they lost in the 1st weekend. McBuckets never made a sweet 16 if I remember correctly.

[JTG]

Kinda starting to find creighton annoying to be honest. Not butler level but there’s something about McDermott that screams used car salesman to me

It's the way he looks in a suit. Wright looks like GQ, McDermott screams Charlie's Buy here pay here lot ⁶

[Masterofreality]

News flash.
Arthur Kaluma is really good at basketball.

[Lloyd Braun]

Why didn’t the shot clock reset for Providence?

[HenryMuto]

Why didn’t the shot clock reset for Providence?

2nd shot didn't hit the rim.

Too bad Gus Johnson wasn't calling this game. He would be saying "WHAT A GAME" and going nuts on every shot.

[Lloyd Braun]

2nd shot didn't hit the rim.

Too bad Gus Johnson wasn't calling this game. He would be saying "WHAT A GAME" and going nuts on every shot.

I didn’t see it reset after the first shot hit the rim

[X-band '01]

Isn't Gus actually doing some course that's Harvard-related right now? There's supposed to be a TV show on Fox about it.

He's really not been present at all for Big East games this year outside of a few national appearances on the national Fox network.

[Xville]

Hell of a game. The top 5 big East teams I’d put up against almost everyone.

[noteggs]

I realize x has to play a few top teams away, but damn can’t believe we pissed down the leg with some bottom feeders! Oh well, welcome to the BE…I think.

[HenryMuto]

Come on Nova

[HenryMuto]

Let's go Saint John's!

[HenryMuto]

Saint John's hanging around hanging around lead down to 2 with 15 mins left

[HenryMuto]

Saint John's throwing ball all around the floor like they don't want to win.

[HenryMuto]

They gave us hope cutting it to 1 but then sucked it up no help coming from any other team today

[X-band '01]

St. John's: "This is Fine" (https://twitter.com/dy1antweets/status/1626793093671395329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1626793093671395329%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=)

Gee, I wonder why Rafael Pinzon got suspended by the Johnnies...

[HenryMuto]

So G'Town might beat Butler at Butler ? Oof that makes our loss that much worse.

[HenryMuto]

Good lord Georgetown did what we could not do........win at Butler.

I can't believe we lost that game.

[Three Point Pete]

Not having Bates available hurt Butler and GTown's pickup squad (68-62) sqeaks by. Hoyas last conference road win was 2 years ago.

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[X-band '01]

And their first win in front of opposing fans in 3 years!

[Masterofreality]

Never forget that Patrick Ewing had Mac McClung for two years, mis coached him and he transferred to Texas Tech.
Now McClung signed a deal with the 76ers and just won the NBA Slam Dunk Contest. #Swagger

[noteggs]

Hmmm…shots fired at UConn’s fanbase by Cooley?

https://twitter.com/friarscapital/status/1628599635836116994?s=42&t=WuU9LYQfEoDEE55DxDDHCA

[HenryMuto]

Creighton favored by 2.5 pts

Let's go Nova!

[HenryMuto]

Villanova leads 27-16 !

[HenryMuto]

Villanova leads now 37-20 over Creighton.

No one is going to want to play Nova in the BE tournament.

[Three Point Pete]

Nova is healthy again. They are really good on defense when they are anticipating passes and quick on the switches. I thought X was lacking in ball handling, but Creighton so far has not moved much better. Not making excuses for sloppy play, but giving due credit when a squad is focused and plays tough. Nova will be dangerous at MSG.



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[bjf123]

Did not like that current seeding they showed that would have us playing Nova on Thursday at MSG.


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[Three Point Pete]

Yukon hanging 50 pts on Johnnie's late 1st half . They are on fire!


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[HenryMuto]

Did not like that current seeding they showed that would have us playing Nova on Thursday at MSG.


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Nova at Seton Hall may determine who is the 6 seed and who is the 7 seed.

Xavier at Providence may determine who is the 2 seed and who is the 3 seed.

So I am pretty sure we would rather play Seton Hall in the quarters then Nova but regardless we would like the #2 seed but likely requires a win at Providence with them having an easy remaining schedule (@G'Town, vs Seton Hall)

So if Nova wins at Seton Hall I think we are going to see UCONN at 5 seed, Nova at 6 seed.

If X loses at Providence then it is shaping up to be Nova at this moment still lots of games left to play but if I had to guess if X lost at Providence and Nova holds on vs Creighton this is a possible outcome.

Maybe Seton Hall can beat Nova at home and then Seton Hall would be the 6 seed.

Lots still to be decided.

[xukeith]

Looks like X has an opportunity to win 2nd place. Creighton getting beat by Nova.

[Xville]

Yukon hanging 50 pts on Johnnie's late 1st half . They are on fire!


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I know x beat them twice and they had some stumbles in the middle of the season there, but I still think they are the best team in the big east. I know others may disagree but to me they are the most complete. They don’t have a “true” pg, but good enough combo guards to make up for it, size, strength, shooting etc.

[Xville]

Looks like X has an opportunity to win 2nd place. Creighton getting beat by Nova.

Yeah… think they’d have to beat providence though, right? 1-1 the rest of the way I don’t think will cut it. I just can’t see x winning at providence. Crazier things have happened though. Looks like x will avoid the Thursday game against UConn though so I’ll take that!

[HenryMuto]

Villanova pounds Creighton dropping Creighton to 12-6

[X-band '01]

So many moving parts right now - also keep in mind Nova goes to Seton Hall on Tuesday. That could be the deciding factor as to who gets the 6 seed and who gets the 7 seed.

Also imagine Xavier could lock up the #2 seed with a win at Providence regardless of what happens against Butler. Will have to research that.

[xukeith]

Man, Nova sure can play smothering defense.

[HenryMuto]

So many moving parts right now - also keep in mind Nova goes to Seton Hall on Tuesday. That could be the deciding factor as to who gets the 6 seed and who gets the 7 seed.

Also imagine Xavier could lock up the #2 seed with a win at Providence regardless of what happens against Butler. Will have to research that.

Win vs Providence locks up #2 seed even with Butler loss

Worst case

Xavier 14-6 (3-1)
Creighton 14-6 (2-2)
Providence 14-6 (1-3)

This would leave this as the seeding for a 4 way tie at 14-6

#2 Xavier
#3 Creighton
#4 Providence

[D-West & PO-Z]

Creighton losing today was MASSIVE for Xavier in terms of BE seeding.

Getting a top 3 seed is huge. You get to avoid playing UConn (the likely 5 seed) to open, and you get an opponent who had to play the night before.

Xavier would have likely had to win out to get a top 3 seed if Creighton did not lose today, because Creighton finishes against Georgetown then DePaul. So today was really the last test Creighton had.

If you give Seton Hall the edge due to being home against Nova, I see the seeds likely playing out like this:

1. Marquette
2. Providence
3. Xavier
4. Creighton
5. UConn
6. Seton Hall
7. Nova
8. St. Johns
9. Butler
10. DePaul
11. Georgetown

This would place Marquette, Creighton, and UConn all on the opposite side of the bracket than X. If Seton Hall beats Nova the 3 seed might be better for us anyway as we would play the winner of Seton Hall and Georgetown. Avoiding a hot Nova would be ideal.

That would be a hell of a bracket for X. Getting the 2 or 3 seed is so massive, which is why Nova taking down Creighton was so big.

[X-band '01]

If Seton Hall has the same lineup as last night, they're not beating Nova.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah, dont know their injury situation.

No matter who we face first (and if we beat Providence and get 2 seed and Nova wins, we wont face them first or if we lose and they lose we wont) it is a massive benefit to X to be on the other side of the bracket of Creighton, Marquette, and UConn.

Worst case scenario we have to go through Nova and Providence to get to finals. A very possible scenario is Seton Hall and then winner of Nova/Providence.

[XUGRAD80]

As much as I really really want X to hoist the BE Championship Banner, I’m going to be really happy just to see X in the semi finals. Beyond that everything else is just gravy. I’m betting right now that Nova wins it again. They are getting hot and healthy at the right time. I think that they are a solid choice to make a sweet 16 run if not even further. In fact, I could see 3-4 BE teams in the sweet 16. Wouldn’t surprise me at all.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Nova doesn't have good enough PG play imo to be a major threat in either the BE tourney or the NCAA tourney. They are at best the 5th scariest opponent X could face in the BE tourney. Would love a scenario (which is a very realistic one) where we play Hall in the Quarterfinals and then winner of Providence/Nova in the semifinals. I think Providence is better and we would face them but I'd rather face either over Creighton or Marquette for sure and also UConn.

[HenryMuto]

Any chance Georgetown pulls off the upset over Providence today ?

[Xville]

I agree with nova. They are my pick to win the be tourney. Two most talented players in the big East, and dixon is a steady solid player.

With that said, out of the top 6 I wouldn’t be surprised by any of them winning it.

Gtown pulling an upset today would be nice

[xukeith]

Looks like Providence is trying to skew their efficiency numbers today by killing Ewing's team.

[American X]

Nova doesn't have good enough PG play imo to be a major threat in either the BE tourney or the NCAA tourney.

Justin Moore who just destroyed Xavier is not good enough?

[xavierj]

Justin Moore who just destroyed Xavier is not good enough?

He’s a fine scorer but he is better suited to play the 2. Nova is missing a PG like they have had forever that made them good. He certainly helps but I just don’t see them being able to win 4 games in 4 days in the BE tourney as they really have very little help off the bench and at times they struggle to score. If they get hot they can win but too often they are too streaky from 3.

[American X]

So many moving parts right now - also keep in mind Nova goes to Seton Hall on Tuesday. That could be the deciding factor as to who gets the 6 seed and who gets the 7 seed.

Also imagine Xavier could lock up the #2 seed with a win at Providence regardless of what happens against Butler. Will have to research that.

That is how I read it. Winner of Villanova - Seton Hall on Tuesday is the 6 seed and loser is the 7 seed. Winner of Xavier - Providence is the 2 seed.

If Xavier and Creighton finish with the same 14-6 record, who is the 3 seed? This assumes no other upsets this week.

[94GRAD]

That is how I read it. Winner of Villanova - Seton Hall on Tuesday is the 6 seed and loser is the 7 seed. Winner of Xavier - Providence is the 2 seed.

If Xavier and Creighton finish with the same 14-6 record, who is the 3 seed? This assumes no other upsets this week.

X would be the 3 seed since they split against Marquette and Creighton didn't.

[D-West & PO-Z]

http://bball.notnothing.net/bigeast.php?sport=mbb

Link to pick your winners to see different outcomes of the bracket based on who wins what.

[D-West & PO-Z]

That is how I read it. Winner of Villanova - Seton Hall on Tuesday is the 6 seed and loser is the 7 seed. Winner of Xavier - Providence is the 2 seed.

If Xavier and Creighton finish with the same 14-6 record, who is the 3 seed? This assumes no other upsets this week.

Nova could lose to Hall Tuesday and still end up the 6 seed if they beat UConn in their last game and Hall loses to Providence.

But yes, easiest way for them to get 6 seed is to beat Hall Tues.

Hall HAS to win Tuesday to have a shot at 6 seed but it does not guarantee them the 6 seed.

[drudy23]

http://bball.notnothing.net/bigeast.php?sport=mbb

Link to pick your winners to see different outcomes of the bracket based on who wins what.

So basically win one more game and grab the 2 seed. Lose both and risk UCONN in round one.

[94GRAD]

So basically win one more game and grab the 2 seed. Lose both and risk UCONN in round one.

If Providence wins both of their games, they will be the 2 seed and X will be the 3 unless they lose to buttler.

[D-West & PO-Z]

So basically win one more game and grab the 2 seed. Lose both and risk UCONN in round one.


If Providence wins both of their games, they will be the 2 seed and X will be the 3 unless they lose to buttler.

Yeah X could get away with only one more win as long as that win is against Providence or if Providence loses their last game to Seton Hall, which then would obviously mean Providence could not win their final 2.

Both X and Providence control their own destiny to the 2 seed.

If X loses both games, I think 4 seed is all but guaranteed and a date with UConn. Can't see Creighton losing to either Georgetown or DePaul.

[IM4X]

As much as I really really want X to hoist the BE Championship Banner, I’m going to be really happy just to see X in the semi finals. Beyond that everything else is just gravy. I’m betting right now that Nova wins it again. They are getting hot and healthy at the right time. I think that they are a solid choice to make a sweet 16 run if not even further. In fact, I could see 3-4 BE teams in the sweet 16. Wouldn’t surprise me at all.

I’m betting on X to hoist the BET trophy this year. Being that Sean played in the BET at MSG when he was a player at Pitt, the tournament has more meaning for him than any even other X coach. It feels like there are more teams this season that are capable of winning the BE Tournament than in recent years, but then every BE team this season has lost to X already.

While Nova is starting to peak, they are still not as scary as previous Nova teams (coached by Wright). With Zach back in the fold (crossing fingers) X feels like they have the talent, experience and chemistry on the floor as well as the coaching ability to win the whole damn thing. This is the year X takes down the nets at MSG!

Seems like most so-called pundits are sleeping on X and Marquette -The two teams you’d think would be the favorites- and betting on UConn and Creighton instead.

[JTG]

I’m betting on X to hoist the BET trophy this year. Being that Sean played in the BET at MSG when he was a player at Pitt, the tournament has more meaning for him than any even other X coach. It feels like there are more teams this season that are capable of winning the BE Tournament than in recent years, but then every BE team this season has lost to X already.

While Nova is starting to peak, they are still not as scary as previous Nova teams (coached by Wright). With Zach back in the fold (crossing fingers) X feels like they have the talent, experience and chemistry on the floor as well as the coaching ability to win the whole damn thing. This is the year X takes down the nets at MSG!

Seems like most so-called pundits are sleeping on X and Marquette -The two teams you’d think would be the favorites- and betting on UConn and Creighton instead.

The media has been head over heels in love with UCONN all season. And Creighton is scary when they're hot. I can't see us winning the BET, and frankly I don't want X to expend the energy necessary to get it. This team, with injuries and short bench is very worn down. I'd rather we were rested and ready for the Dance.

[D-West & PO-Z]

The media has been head over heels in love with UCONN all season. And Creighton is scary when they're hot. I can't see us winning the BET, and frankly I don't want X to expend the energy necessary to get it. This team, with injuries and short bench is very worn down. I'd rather we were rested and ready for the Dance.

How much rest do you need? Champ game is Sat and earliest we could play is Thurs.

Winning the BE tourney at MSG is special. The last big milestone for X to get in their "new" conference.

[IM4X]

How much rest do you need? Champ game is Sat and earliest we could play is Thurs.

Winning the BE tourney at MSG is special. The last big milestone for X to get in their "new" conference.

Yes it is!

It’s not going to be a cakewalk, but I think about the ceiling of this X team when everyone is healthy and I think about how there’s no more Jay Wright to worry about and my conclusion is that this year’s BET is ours for the taking. I absolutely can see Souley and Colby and Jack and Zach and Adam and Jerome and Claude and the rest of the team tapping into their full potential… and I can visualize each one of them clipping a piece of the net after the championship game, leaving the final piece of nylon for the head coach- because at the end of a job well done - it’s Miller time.

[HenryMuto]

Marquette doing what conference champions are supposed to do and beat the crap out of the bottom of the basement teams in the league.

[D-West & PO-Z]

SH finishes the half on a 20-11 run to go into the half up 3 points.

[xavierj]

Marquette doing what conference champions are supposed to do and beat the crap out of the bottom of the basement teams in the league.

Yeah they didn’t do that on Saturday at home against DePaul. DePaul made them work and got it to for with about a minute left. Butler is so bad which makes it worse Xavier lost to them.

[Masterofreality]

SH finishes the half on a 20-11 run to go into the half up 3 points.

But Nova does, what Nova does.
We win, we finish 2nd. And have a much more favorable bracket in the BE Tourney

[Three Point Pete]

Nova beats the Hall 76-72 at the Rock. Tight game Nova's 22/23 free throws was the difference. Watch out! They have peaked with everyone healthy winning 8 of last 9.

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[Strange Brew]

But Nova does, what Nova does.
We win, we finish 2nd. And have a much more favorable bracket in the BE Tourney

Tough league, tough game tomorrow.

Hope someone puts “Dead or Alive” in Free’s headphones pre-game or we’re screwed.

[X-band '01]

I was holding out for Born To Run myself.

Too soon?

[D-West & PO-Z]

But Nova does, what Nova does.
We win, we finish 2nd. And have a much more favorable bracket in the BE Tourney

Yeah the difference between the 2 and the 3 seed is going to be massive.

Although not as massive as the difference between the 3 and the 4 seed, which is why it as so big Nova beat Creighton, and why we must win at least 1 of these next 2.

Getting a win tonight and getting the 2 seed though, would be huge.

[GoMuskies]

Georgetown getting murdered by Creighton is an appropriate farewell for Ewing.

[X-band '01]

Did you not see what UConn did to DePaul earlier tonight?

[GoMuskies]

Did you not see what UConn did to DePaul earlier tonight?

That seemed tame comparatively.

[xukeith]

Georgetown getting murdered by Creighton is an appropriate farewell for Ewing.

It looked like UConn and Creighton purposely ran the score up to improve their efficiency numbers.

[JTG]

It looked like UConn and Creighton purposely ran the score up to improve their efficiency numbers.

Well, Ewing is hapless as a coach, and Creighton has X grade firepower. Hurley on the other hand is the kind of prick that would do that on purpose.

[American X]

If Villanova beats UConn, Providence, & Xavier, then loses the Big East Tournament final, would they even get near the bubble?

[D-West & PO-Z]

If Villanova beats UConn, Providence, & Xavier, then loses the Big East Tournament final, would they even get near the bubble?

Good question. I havent seen them listed anywhere close to having a chance, so I tend to think not, but that would be some impressive wins, in a short period of time.

[webxu]

Good question. I havent seen them listed anywhere close to having a chance, so I tend to think not, but that would be some impressive wins, in a short period of time.

I would think the committee would give them come consideration for having Moore out, they are a totally different team now with him and have very much looked the tourney part recently. If they make a run to the BE finals i think they would be very much considered.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I would think the committee would give them come consideration for having Moore out, they are a totally different team now with him and have very much looked the tourney part recently. If they make a run to the BE finals i think they would be very much considered.

Yeah it's possible. They are 76 n NET and top 60 KenPom.

I havent seen them listed in any of the multiple bubble watches on various sites though.

[GoMuskies]

Yeah it's possible. They are 76 n NET and top 60 KenPom.

I havent seen them listed in any of the multiple bubble watches on various sites though.

I looked specifically for them today and noticed the same. I suspect a win over UConn this weekend would make them a trendy add back to such bubble watches.

[xukeith]

Why might UConn get a better seed than X. I know they don't give teams preference in head to heads but is UConn's resume close to X's?

[noteggs]

BE is the only conference to have 4 teams in top 17 according to Kenpom.

Cherry picking? Yes because B12 has 5 in top 19.

Regardless, impressive considering where the league started the season.

[Xville]

Why might UConn get a better seed than X. I know they don't give teams preference in head to heads but is UConn's resume close to X's?

UConn has wins in the non con of Alabama, Iowa state and ok state . UConn’s computer numbers are elite. X’s non con wins are pretty sad tbh. They may have one win over a tourney team.

In contrast uconn doesn’t have the road wins that x has in conference. Honestly, I think they are both 4 seeds… x to Louisville or kc and UConn to New York

[GoMuskies]

UConn has wins in the non con of Alabama, Iowa state and ok state . UConn’s computer numbers are elite. X’s non con wins are pretty sad tbh. They may have one win over a tourney team.

In contrast uconn doesn’t have the road wins that x has in conference. Honestly, I think they are both 4 seeds… x to Louisville or kc and UConn to New York

I think you meant to say X to Las Vegas!

[paulxu]

I think you meant to say X to Las Vegas!

Don't you win either way?

[paulxu]

UConn has wins in the non con of Alabama, Iowa state and ok state . UConn’s computer numbers are elite. X’s non con wins are pretty sad tbh. They may have one win over a tourney team.

In contrast uconn doesn’t have the road wins that x has in conference. Honestly, I think they are both 4 seeds… x to Louisville or kc and UConn to New York

Not that the NET means anything, but we stack up fairly well against UConn.

UConn #7: 10-6 Q1/2 13-1 Q3/4
Muskies #19 12-6 Q1/2 10-2 Q3/4

[xukeith]

Beating UConn twice sure must impress committee . Imagine if X had only won the Marquette game. I imagine X would be a 3 seed hoping for a 2 seed.

[webxu]

Beating UConn twice sure must impress committee . Imagine if X had only won the Marquette game. I imagine X would be a 3 seed hoping for a 2 seed.

In that vain, imagine if we beat BUTTler, Depaul, Nova and that Marquette game, wed be hunting a 1 seed.

[X-band '01]

Seton Hall is now up 9 at Providence. If the Friars lose today and Creighton wins at DePaul tonight, the Bluejays get the #3 seed in the BE Tournament and Providence falls to #4 and a 2:30 matchup with UConn on Thursday.

I don't think Providence is in danger of missing the NCAA Tournament under this scenario, but they could easily be a 9 or 10 seed if that holds.

[HenryMuto]

Shocking Providence losing at home right now to Seton Hall by double digits 34-23. I would like to see Providence win as that makes our win that much more impressive being the only team to do so this year plus it would put Providence as the #3 seed I rather that then Creighton though either way it is what it is.

[HenryMuto]

Hall 44-25 what in gods name is going on. Providence has missed 3 front end of 1 and 1's.

[Masterofreality]

Seton Hall is now up 9 at Providence. If the Friars lose today and Creighton wins at DePaul tonight, the Bluejays get the #3 seed in the BE Tournament and Providence falls to #4 and a 2:30 matchup with UConn on Thursday.

I don't think Providence is in danger of missing the NCAA Tournament under this scenario, but they could easily be a 9 or 10 seed if that holds.

Seems like the Friars are having a hangover from Wednesday night. I really don’t think they want to be playing UConn on Thursday in MSG.
This would be a horrible loss.

[Xville]

Hall shooting 66 percent is absurd. That will come back to reality next half. Wonder if providence can score enough against hall though at this point

[bjf123]

I figured there’s no way Providence would lose two in a row at home, so I bet on them to win. It’s my fault.


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[UCGRAD4X]

I figured there’s no way Providence would lose two in a row at home, so I bet on them to win. It’s my fault.

Degenerate

[HenryMuto]

Assuming Providence loses then a Creighton win puts them as the #3 seed.

If somehow Creighton lost and UCONN lost then Providence gets the #3 seed back.

If somehow Creighton lost and UCONN won I think a coin flip will decide the #3 seed between Providence and UCONN with Creighton getting #5 seed.

[X-band '01]

I figured there’s no way Providence would lose two in a row at home, so I bet on them to win. It’s my fault.


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The UConn fans thank you, however.

[bjf123]

Degenerate

It gets worse, I bet again at halftime that they’d pull it out. I’m an idiot.


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[Xville]

Welp, providence is playing like a one and done. It’s hard to make seton hall look good on offense , but they have accomplished it.

[X-band '01]

And they still don't have Kadary Richmond back. This just better be the "Everything Goes Wrong" game for the Friars.

[noteggs]

Hard foul on the Hall. Up 30 with a minute left. Thought Holloway didn’t like that type of play? Ed, just stiff him in the handshake line!

[X-band '01]

Maybe DePaul gets into a brawl with The Hall next Wednesday? We can dream, can't we?

[bjf123]

The UConn fans thank you, however.

So you’re saying I should bet on UConn?


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[X-band '01]

If you want to start a riot at MSG on Thursday, yes.

[Three Point Pete]

Marq is off to good start, St. J not helping their cause with sloppy play. Need to get Soriano involved or this game is over.

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[Three Point Pete]

100 points in 1st half. Marq. Up 53-47. Johnnie's TOs hurt them.

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[D-West & PO-Z]

If somehow Creighton lost and UCONN won I think a coin flip will decide the #3 seed between Providence and UCONN with Creighton getting #5 seed.

No coin flip in this scenario, UConn would get the 3 seed due to their higher NET ranking.

[Three Point Pete]

Very good game at Fiserv. St. John stormed back in 2nd half, but Marq's "Xavier Defense" an early 23-2 run was enough for 96-94 win.

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[xudash]

I wonder if our guys are aware of what just almost happened in Milwaukee. The idea is for full-on revenge against the huckleberries. We need to blow them out, never stepping off the gas.

[UCGRAD4X]

Very good game at Fiserv. St. John stormed back in 2nd half, but Marq's "Xavier Defense" an early 23-2 run was enough for 96-94 win.

I see what you did there...

[American X]

Georgetown coaching candidates: Rick Pitino, Mike Brey among possible targets to replace Patrick Ewing (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/georgetown-coaching-candidates-rick-pitino-mike-brey-among-possible-targets-to-replace-patrick-ewing/)

[Xville]

Georgetown coaching candidates: Rick Pitino, Mike Brey among possible targets to replace Patrick Ewing (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/georgetown-coaching-candidates-rick-pitino-mike-brey-among-possible-targets-to-replace-patrick-ewing/)

The conversation should start and end at pitino imo. The rest of those guys don’t move the needle to me at all, and Having pitino in the big East would be huge for the league.

[Masterofreality]

Word from Nova buddy: Both Cam Whitmore and Justin Moore are out vs Liberty tonight.
Whitmore has apparently checked out and will enter the portal. Moore is personally protecting his knee for possible pro camps.
Also, looks like all Nova assistants are not coming back, including their Strength & Conditioning guy who would be a huge loss.
There is also some dissatisfaction with Kyle Neptune in the Nova world. I guess when you have 2 Natty’s that you have a lot less patience for mediocrity.

[94GRAD]

Word from Nova buddy: Both Cam Whitmore and Justin Moore are out vs Liberty tonight.
Whitmore has apparently checked out and will enter the portal. Moore is personally protecting his knee for possible pro camps.
Also, looks like all Nova assistants are not coming back, including their Strength & Conditioning guy who would be a huge loss.
There is also some dissatisfaction with Kyle Neptune in the Nova world. I guess when you have 2 Natty’s that you have a lot less patience for mediocrity.

Whitmore is a Lottery pick than a transfer portal prospect

[Xville]

Lol more terrible info from Mor. Whitmore is a lottery pick, not a transfer portal guy. “ there is some dissatisfaction” probably along the same genius info like uconn is about to revolt and guys are threatening to transfer.

The nit is ridiculous and stupid.

[Masterofreality]

Whitmore is a Lottery pick than a transfer portal prospect

Possibly? I’m just relating what I was told. Nova guy doesn’t think he is, but we have some Xavier fans that think that Colby isn’t an NBA player either. (Spoiler: He is)
Edit: After checking it appears You are correct about Whitmore. Top 10 pick.

[xavierj]

Possibly? I’m just relating what I was told. Nova guy doesn’t think he is, but we have some Xavier fans that think that Colby isn’t an NBA player either. (Spoiler: He is)
Edit: After checking it appears You are correct about Whitmore. Top 10 pick.

Not trying to be a jerk but he is sitting out to prevent injury and drop in the draft. Is a lock to go lottery and his agent advised him not to play. Sorry but whoever told you he was going in the portal is really clueless.

[X-band '01]

It does make me wonder why Villanova would enter the NIT if they're going to play with a CBI-level roster. They (Moore and Whitmore) have every right to opt out, but that's something that probably should have been factored in. They're not winning at Liberty without those two.

Seton Hall also screams one-and-done at Colorado.

[Masterofreality]

Not trying to be a jerk but he is sitting out to prevent injury and drop in the draft. Is a lock to go lottery and his agent advised him not to play. Sorry but whoever told you he was going in the portal is really clueless.

You’re not being a jerk, and it’s my bad. I was the one who thought “portal” after my guy said that Whitmore had “checked out”. I wish I could post a pic of the text messages on here. I haven’t followed draft projections enough on Cam Whitmore. Mea Culpa.

[Masterofreality]

Seton Hall also screams one-and-done at Colorado.

Yup. Flying across country to play a mile up in Boulder is not a formula for success.

[Masterofreality]

Both Seton Hall and Nova lost last night so there will be no repeat Big East NIT Champ.
We can now totally focus on the Big Dance

[muskiefan82]

Hell yeah UConn! THAT is how you get it done.

[Xville]

Hell yeah UConn! THAT is how you get it done.

Think they smoke either ucla or gonzaga as well. Said all year they could win the whole thing. They have everything

[Boro Muskie]

Would like UCONN to win but still can't stand Hurley.

[X-band '01]

We're about to get a double dose of Hurleys as long as UConn is alive.

[muskiefan82]

This is the kind of game that makes me know X can actually compete with ANYONE. My God UConn looks good and X beat them twice.

[Xville]

This is the kind of game that makes me know X can actually compete with ANYONE. My God UConn looks good and X beat them twice.

Kind of agree but we know it’s all about matchups and Arkansas doesn’t matchup with UConn whatsoever. Small and can’t shoot is kind of an issue against an athletic and big team lol

It’s why I think x could win tomorrow but Sunday both of those teams I don’t think x matches up with.. we shall see though!

[GIMMFD]

Though I'm all for Big East supremacy, my brother in law went to UConn and if they win the whole thing he will be so obnoxious, even more so he doesn't deserve it being a Patriots and Celtics fan (from Connecticut obviously, went to UConn)... so like I'm going to need Xavier to win it all

[xu82]

Though I'm all for Big East supremacy, my brother in law went to UConn and if they win the whole thing he will be so obnoxious, even more so he doesn't deserve it being a Patriots and Celtics fan (from Connecticut obviously, went to UConn)... so like I'm going to need Xavier to win it all

Well, then….by all means! If that’s what it takes we want to be there for you!!! :-)

[GIMMFD]

Well, then….by all means! If that’s what it takes we want to be there for you!!! :-)

Lmfao we have been bantering all year, having 2-0 is nice, but if UConn wins the tournament he will be unbearable, and it just wouldn't be nice of the universe to do that to us.

[GoMuskies]

UConn is kind of on fire, but I'm not particularly impressed by Sanogo. Hope UConn doesn't rely on him too much in the second half to try to get to Houston.

[xavierj]

UConn is kind of on fire, but I'm not particularly impressed by Sanogo. Hope UConn doesn't rely on him too much in the second half to try to get to Houston.

UConn will win it all.

[GoMuskies]

UConn will win it all.

Looks that way. May beat Creighton in the championship game.

[Masterofreality]

Though I'm all for Big East supremacy, my brother in law went to UConn and if they win the whole thing he will be so obnoxious, even more so he doesn't deserve it being a Patriots and Celtics fan (from Connecticut obviously, went to UConn)... so like I'm going to need Xavier to win it all

Or Creighton. McDermott winning would be cool

[muskiefan82]

It's a shame Creighton lost, but selfishly I'm a little happy because I did not want X to be the only Big East team without a Final Four. The race is on between X and Creighton.

[smileyy]

Didn't see the need to start a new thread but I just saw that Adama Sonogo is entering the draft. He's skilled enough, IMO.

[bobbiemcgee]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/36061636/ncaa-tournament-evolution-big-east-sets-basketball-revolution-march-madness

[bobbiemcgee]

https://bustingbrackets.com/2023/05/09/big-east-basketball-early-grades-teams-2023-offseason-moves/6/

[xukeith]

Marquette gets an A+ for nobody leaving?

[Xville]

Marquette gets an A+ for nobody leaving?

In this day and age of college basketball, it should. I mean think about that… no one in rotation graduating, transferring or going to Europe or the league. How many big six programs can say that this year. Probably Marquette and that’s it.

[xavierj]

In this day and age of college basketball, it should. I mean think about that… no one in rotation graduating, transferring or going to Europe or the league. How many big six programs can say that this year. Probably Marquette and that’s it.

Prosper declared for the draft. He projects as a 2nd round pick so guessing he comes back.

[UCGRAD4X]

https://bustingbrackets.com/2023/05/09/big-east-basketball-early-grades-teams-2023-offseason-moves/6/

They predict the Musketeers as 2nd in the Big East but only 25th in the NCAA.

[xukeith]

They predict the Musketeers as 2nd in the Big East but only 25th in the NCAA.

I think I read another article on that site grading the BE transfer recruiting classes. They gave X an A and ranked Marquette #1 because nobody has transferred from Marquette. Didn't know you could win a transfer ranking with no transfers.

[Masterofreality]

I think I read another article on that site grading the BE transfer recruiting classes. They gave X an A and ranked Marquette #1 because nobody has transferred from Marquette. Didn't know you could win a transfer ranking with no transfers.

Prosper left. I guess guys who just leave don’t count??

[noteggs]

They predict the Musketeers as 2nd in the Big East but only 25th in the NCAA.

From the article, they used last year’s conference results for the numerical number.

[Xville]

Prosper hasn’t left, he just declared.