College Football 2022

[paulxu]

Some teams this weekend. Most start season next weekend.

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[Strange Brew]

ND is overrated.

There. That’s out of the way.

[noteggs]

Think I read somewhere South Carolina is changing the name of their mascot Sir Big Spur?

[94GRAD]

Think I read somewhere South Carolina is changing the name of their mascot Sir Big Spur?

Going with Cock Commander!

[paulxu]

That's just for the rooster I hope.
The guy (girl?)inside the suit should still be Cocky.

[xubrew]

People in Ireland care even less about Nebraska v Northwestern than people in America do.

[GoMuskies]

People in Ireland care even less about Nebraska v Northwestern than people in America do.

One would expect that to be the case. Presumably this would have been a Northwestern home game, because I can't imagine Nebraska giving up a sellout for this.

[xubrew]

I believe it is.

[xuphan]

So, will it be 2 or 1 SEC team in the national championship game?

[xubrew]

So, will it be 2 or 1 SEC team in the national championship game?

My guess would be the same two as last year.

[Strange Brew]

People in Ireland care even less about Nebraska v Northwestern than people in America do.

At least the beer is now free since the stadium Internet went “down”. Gotta love the Irish!

[GoMuskies]

If Nebraska loses today, Frost is toast.

[JTG]

People in Ireland care even less about Nebraska v Northwestern than people in America do.

How is that possible ? Has Been vs. Never Was.....

[UCGRAD4X]

ND is overrated.

There. That’s out of the way.

https://twitter.com/BarrettSallee/status/1561796400609902592

I really like where Freeman is taking this team. However, with all the uncertainty and lack of depth and experience on offense (bar Mayer), I would tend to agree.

Recent history (I always thought that term a bit of an oxy-maroon) suggests that has not been the case.

[Xville]

I don’t know how being preseason highly ranked and then losing 2-3 games while still being ranked high seals the argument for them not being overrated. Yeah they aren’t losing 4-5 games like they were before 17, so I guess that’s something.

With all that said, hope they somehow destroy Ohio state on Saturday.

[Strange Brew]

https://twitter.com/BarrettSallee/status/1561796400609902592

I really like where Freeman is taking this team. However, with all the uncertainty and lack of depth and experience on offense (bar Mayer), I would tend to agree.

Recent history (I always thought that term a bit of an oxy-maroon) suggests that has not been the case.

I hear you and they likely are overrated but outside of the top 3-4 teams it’s a tossup.

ND should have one of the best o-lines in the country this year and the defense (esp the line) should be very good. Big questions at QB, WR and RB (with injuries). Throw in a new HC and things could go either way for the Irish this year. On paper I’d put them at around 9-11 and let them sneak up on people. :)

[American X]

ND is overrated.

I am scratching my head and I am an Irish apologist. You can easily drop them five spots behind a few defending conference champions. Regardless, #5 ND at #2 OSU is an epic start to the season.

[Strange Brew]

I am scratching my head and I am an Irish apologist. You can easily drop them five spots behind a few defending conference champions. Regardless, #5 ND at #2 OSU is an epic start to the season.

No doubt however I'm preparing myself for a sad Sat night...:)

[xubrew]

I am not rooting for Notre Dame this weekend. However, I will absolutely be rooting against Ohio State.

[Strange Brew]

I am not rooting for Notre Dame this weekend. However, I will absolutely be rooting against Ohio State.

I'll take it!

[GoMuskies]

I am not rooting for Notre Dame this weekend. However, I will absolutely be rooting against Ohio State.

Same. I'll mostly be rooting for ND to cover the number, though.

[JTG]

Same. I'll mostly be rooting for ND to cover the number, though.

And it's a huge number for a big game. I've seen 17.5.

[xubrew]

Glad to see the football version of the Backyard Brawl back. I hate when rivalries go away, but a lot of the really good ones have eventually come back.

[xubrew]

The on-air announcer at the West Virginia v Pitt game…

“You can throw the records out the window whenever these two play!!”

Both teams’ current record is 0-0.

[paulxu]

I guess this means some teams get a buy.
I'd have preferred a good 8.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/sport/college-football-expanded-playoff-spt/index.html

[noteggs]

I guess this means some teams get a buy.
I'd have preferred a good 8.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/sport/college-football-expanded-playoff-spt/index.html

I get it and part of me does too. But with all the new super conferences, may let a non get into playoffs.

[xubrew]

I get it and part of me does too. But with all the new super conferences, may let a non get into playoffs.

If the top six ranked conference champs get in every year, then at least one non-power team will always get in.

[Strange Brew]

Glad to see the football version of the Backyard Brawl back. I hate when rivalries go away, but a lot of the really good ones have eventually come back.

That was a fun game to watch (like BYU) and I’m glad to see those teams on the field together again.

[xubrew]

Tonight’s VA Tech v Old Dominion game may be better than what people are expecting.

[Strange Brew]

Tonight’s VA Tech v Old Dominion game may be better than what people are expecting.

The ODs have a football team? I like Tech (worked with a few grads, smart folks) so maybe I’ll tune in.

[noteggs]

If the top six ranked conference champs get in every year, then at least one non-power team will always get in.

For 8 or 12 team playoffs? If 8, is it currently worded that a non power team will automatically get invited over a 2nd place power conference team? Just curious

[Strange Brew]

For 8 or 12 team playoffs? If 8, is it currently worded that a non power team will automatically get invited over a 2nd place power conference team? Just curious

Auto bid for non-Power Conference teams?

[xubrew]

For 8 or 12 team playoffs? If 8, is it currently worded that a non power team will automatically get invited over a 2nd place power conference team? Just curious

The format they approved is 12.

[noteggs]

The format they approved is 12.

Yes I heard.

[Xville]

So 6 conference champs… I wonder if this will help slow the further expansion of big ten/sec. Maybe now that the schools in the acc, pac, big 12 see the route, they will stay put.

I love college football but I hate what all of this expansion has done to rivalries and conference pride.

[UCGRAD4X]

So 6 conference champs… I wonder if this will help slow the further expansion of big ten/sec. Maybe now that the schools in the acc, pac, big 12 see the route, they will stay put.

I love college football but I hate what all of this expansion has done to rivalries and conference pride.

This is huge. It was looking like the SEC and B1G were going to say screw everybody else after they went to 20 teams, and "our champs will play each other for the NC."

I think this will quell a bit of the recruiting and transfer disparity. Players might go be a bigger fish in a smaller pond if they still have a path to the NC. Path to the NFL is going to be a big factor. The decision is: will stacking up stats from the get go and getting some exposure in a game or two of the playoffs trump sitting behind previous studs for a chance to go further into the playoffs and a better chance for a ring?

[xudash]

Credit to Notre Dame for coming in with an excellent game plan and with putting up the fight they did. Unless there was a blown assignment, I would have to imagine that Notre Dame‘s defensive coordinator would love to have that safety blitz call back in the third-quarter that led to Ohio State‘s go ahead touchdown.

Ohio State‘s last touchdown drive was a work of art: they grinded Notre Dame down, ate a bunch of clock, and punched it in to seal the deal.

[UCGRAD4X]

Credit to Notre Dame for coming in with an excellent game plan and with putting up the fight they did. Unless there was a blown assignment, I would have to imagine that Notre Dame‘s defensive coordinator would love to have that safety blitz call back in the third-quarter that led to Ohio State‘s go ahead touchdown.

Ohio State‘s last touchdown drive was a work of art: they grinded Notre Dame down, ate a bunch of clock, and punched it in to seal the deal.

That was a horrible call by Golden. The safeties were playing back all game. They were too far back to make any pressure. They had to creep closer to the line pre-snap to have any chance off affecting the play. It was obvious as hell. If you think you are going to broadcast to the *uckeye offense that there is zero help over the top and not expect exactly what happened....

What a brain fart of a call.

[GoMuskies]

Marshall winning in South Bend is fun. Maybe not quite as fun as Appy winning at Texas A&M.

[xu82]

Marshall winning in South Bend is fun. Maybe not quite as fun as Appy winning at Texas A&M.

Early in the season like this is almost like the first round of March Madness. STUFF HAPPENS!

It will be one of the same old names in the end.

[GoMuskies]

Yes, but one of those names will NOT be Notre Dame or Texas A&M.

[paulxu]

ND is overrated.

There. That’s out of the way.

Not a moment too soon.

[noteggs]

lol. Just had a friend who said last Sunday ND shouldn’t have a problem until November.

[Strange Brew]

Not a moment too soon.

Yep, poor effort today all around.

And the QBs aren’t good.

[Nigel Tufnel]

I’m not a football guru…I just watch. Dont know about the strategy, etc…but if someone can please explain to me what Florida’s head coach was doing in the last 9 minutes of that game only down 7, I would love to be educated. The defense kept that game to 10. Why didn’t he trust that defense to flip the field position?

Love to hear his explanation for those decisions. Someone tell me what I’m missing…thanks in advance.

[GoMuskies]

This Georgia Southern/Nebraska game is fantastic. That's bad news for Scott Frost.

[Xavgrad08]

What a crazy day of football. My thoughts- The Texas A$M boosters that have donated to that giant collective will not be happy. Fisher better get it going, or that seat might get uncomfortable. Scott Frost had been awful at Nebraska. Florida’s QB was absolutely brutal.

[GoMuskies]

I’m not a football guru…I just watch. Dont know about the strategy, etc…but if someone can please explain to me what Florida’s head coach was doing in the last 9 minutes of that game only down 7, I would love to be educated. The defense kept that game to 10. Why didn’t he trust that defense to flip the field position?

Love to hear his explanation for those decisions. Someone tell me what I’m missing…thanks in advance.

Just watched the highlights...I'm more interested in the coach's decision to have the QB drink whiskey at the pregame meal and at halftime. And during timeouts. Apparently.

[Xville]

I’m not a football guru…I just watch. Dont know about the strategy, etc…but if someone can please explain to me what Florida’s head coach was doing in the last 9 minutes of that game only down 7, I would love to be educated. The defense kept that game to 10. Why didn’t he trust that defense to flip the field position?

Love to hear his explanation for those decisions. Someone tell me what I’m missing…thanks in advance.

My buddy is a gator fan and was watching the game with him and some other buddies. He didn’t understand the play calling at all… there should have been designed runs for Richardson, instead of whatever the hell that was. Florida gave them at least 14 points.

[paulxu]

Yes, but one of those names will NOT be Notre Dame or Texas A&M.

But they probably voted YES for the 12 team playoff.

[Xville]

And first is the first one to get the heave ho this year. Talk about a hire that didn’t work…. Yikes

[paulxu]

If Nebraska loses today, Frost is toast.

You got some bad ju-ju.

[paulxu]

It's not LIV money, but a guy could be comfortable with this.


Frost will receive his full $15 million buyout, Alberts told reporters at a news conference. The buyout amount would have dropped to $7.5 million on Oct. 1

[GoMuskies]

Damn, I wish I sucked enough that someone would rather pay $7.5 million than have me around for 20 days!

[JTG]

It's not LIV money, but a guy could be comfortable with this.

Nebraska has BIG silly money, no buyout is too large.

[SM#24]

Damn, I wish I sucked enough that someone would rather pay $7.5 million than have me around for 20 days!

When I saw that about the buyout, I learned one of two things, either 20 days is a lot more valuable than I thought, or B1G teams have so much money now, that $7.5m is nothing.

[xubrew]

Frost’s total remaining guaranteed compensation will be $15 million.

I can’t help but be bothered by this. Not by him specifically or this specific incident, but how fucking ridiculous is this? That’s a lot of money to make while not working, and that’s a lot of money to give someone to not work. I’m a college athletics guy. I love it. Don’t get me wrong. But how is this acceptable to any other part of any campus?? And it happens ALL THE TIME!!!

[Xville]

Frost’s total remaining guaranteed compensation will be $15 million.

I can’t help but be bothered by this. Not by him specifically or this specific incident, but how fucking ridiculous is this? That’s a lot of money to make while not working, and that’s a lot of money to give someone to not work. I’m a college athletics guy. I love it. Don’t get me wrong. But how is this acceptable to any other part of any campus?? And it happens ALL THE TIME!!!

Probably because it pales in comparison to the dollar amount that colleges and universities waste every single year.

[JTG]

Probably because it pales in comparison to the dollar amount that colleges and universities waste every single year.

These buyout deals are a product of the insane tv money.

[xubrew]

Anyone still watching football?

[UCGRAD4X]

Bayou Brian

https://twitter.com/i/status/1578828912582615040

[Strange Brew]

Anyone still watching football?

I watched BYU because they're so fun to watch.

And they were playing ND...

[Xville]

Anyone still watching football?

I watch because I like sports and I like football. However, it’s hard to be fully invested in a sport when you already know the ending… bama, Georgia, Ohio state or Michigan and then Clemson or some team that will have zero chance of ever winning the semifinal game will make the playoff… again. Yippee.

[GoMuskies]

I'd enjoy seeing Tennessee join the playoffs this year. Beating Alabama this weekend should put them in great shape to get the #4 seed. Lose to Georgia and otherwise win out, and they won't even have to deal with the stress of a championship game.

[Xville]

I'd enjoy seeing Tennessee join the playoffs this year. Beating Alabama this weekend should put them in great shape to get the #4 seed. Lose to Georgia and otherwise win out, and they won't even have to deal with the stress of a championship game.

I’m pretty skeptical of Tennessee actually being that good. I think they are top 25 good but I guess we will see if young plays to really find out.

[XUGRAD80]

Anyone still watching football?

All the time. I’m probably the outliner here, but I can watch college football games that I have no rooting interest in and still enjoy them. I usually can’t do that for basketball. CFB is just more of a “event”, I guess. Just more entertaining IMO.

[Xville]

I'll eat some crow on Tennessee, that was impressive on Saturday. Interesting scenario....what if SEC gets three teams in? Some people's heads might explode.

Scenario:

Tennessee--loses to Georgia, yet wins out the rest of the way and avoids the Conference Championship; 1 loss
Ole Miss---either wins out or loses to just Bama and avoids Conference Championship; 1 loss
Bama---wins out from here including the SEC Championship or loses to Ole Miss; 1 loss or 2 (which would put them out)
Georgia---wins out in regular season; loses in SEC Championship; 1 loss

[UCGRAD4X]

I enjoy seeing anyone beat the Tide, but it seemed like it was as much to do with Alabama on an unusually bad day. The penalties especially were a killer. I hope Tennessee wins out anyway.

[paulxu]

Poor guy just can't get a break. Welcome to the SEC.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34845094/lsu-football-coach-brian-kelly-rants-instant-replay

[UCGRAD4X]

Poor guy just can't get a break. Welcome to the SEC.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34845094/lsu-football-coach-brian-kelly-rants-instant-replay

F'in cry baby.

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[xubrew]

This is the greatest (albeit unofficial) rivalry/trophy game in college football history!!! WELL DONE!!!

https://twitter.com/zoomass/status/1588541498261655553?s=46&t=C5_oiXfuv8g-H4ftvBPvAw

[GoMuskies]

Cincinnati and ECU are engaged in a fight with the occasional football play thrown in.

[paulxu]

How 'bout them Cocks !

[Xville]

How 'bout them Cocks !

Love it…especially Beamer sticking it to fat ass heupel by throwing it up 25 with three minutes left. A dose of his own medicine.

[American X]

How 'bout them Cocks !

I do not think Tennessee volunteered for that pounding by the Cocks.

[paulxu]

Suck it Clempson.

[Xville]

Man South Carolina had some great wins and some weird losses. Beamer does seem to be building something there.

[paulxu]

Hope is that this and Tenn type wins will convince some good recruits to consider South Carolina.
Someone said that Clemson, Georgia and Alabama get more 5 star recruits in one year that South Carolina has had in its history.
Only way to catch them is to get the same level talent.

[paulxu]

One of you guys up in Ohio explain to me what's up with OSU? Boat race everyone. than lay an egg against Michigan.

Was OSU just over-rated? Or is Michigan just that good.

[Xville]

One of you guys up in Ohio explain to me what's up with OSU? Boat race everyone. than lay an egg against Michigan.

Was OSU just over-rated? Or is Michigan just that good.

Ohio state is overrated every single year. What else is new

[xudash]

One of you guys up in Ohio explain to me what's up with OSU? Boat race everyone. than lay an egg against Michigan.

Was OSU just over-rated? Or is Michigan just that good.

Paul, as I watched the game progress, it seemed pretty apparent to me that Michigan came in and played loosely and Ohio State kept tensing up from the second quarter on.

I also believe that Ohio State got a little aggressive on defense in focusing on the run. At least, that may be a fair observation, given at least two of the long TD passes Michigan threw.

I am also beginning to believe that a mobile quarterback in college football, or perhaps, at any level, is better than a precision passer that throws strictly from the pocket.

BTW, I am in Florida, but whatever.

[UCGRAD4X]

Paul, as I watched the game progress, it seemed pretty apparent to me that Michigan came in and played loosely and Ohio State kept tensing up from the second quarter on.

I also believe that Ohio State got a little aggressive on defense in focusing on the run. At least, that may be a fair observation, given at least two of the long TD passes Michigan threw.

I am also beginning to believe that a mobile quarterback in college football, or perhaps, at any level, is better than a precision passer that throws strictly from the pocket.

BTW, I am in Florida, but whatever.

They used to play good football down there.

[xudash]

They used to play good football down there.

Ha! So true. FSU appears to be ahead of UF, at this point, but we will have to see how long that lasts.

Miami, in my humble opinion, is right, where they should be: a pretender to the throne at this point.

[Strange Brew]

They used to play good football down there.

Shots fired! :)

[paulxu]

The guy who I think is the Big 10 commissioner, says that OSU belongs in the playoff.

[Xville]

The guy who I think is the Big 10 commissioner, says that OSU belongs in the playoff.

Based on the present, sure. However if usc wins their next two games or lsu wins theirs, then not a chance. It should be between those two and those two only provided Michigan and Tcu win their respective conference championship games

[American X]

South Carolina may be the best team playing football right now.

It took several more years than expected, but Harbaugh has Michigan firing on all cylinders. Ohio State exposed again. Stroud made the worst decision of the year with that interception.

USC looks really fast and really good. Looks like Lincoln Riley awoke a sleeping giant.

[Xville]

Really hope it ends up being:

Georgia
Tcu
Michigan
Usc

Got the “underdog” in Tcu, got the majority of the United States covered and a little bit of new blood. It would be a refreshing playoff.

Hope Tcu or usc don’t stub their toe next week. Both Utah and k state are tough matchups.

[bjf123]

It helps OSU that LSU laid an egg last night.


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[Xville]

It helps OSU that LSU laid an egg last night.


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Yeah but the only way imo they get in is by Tcu or usc losing next week. I think usc is in as of now… Williams is probably the heisman winner currently and no way the committee is leaving them out if they can help it.

[xuwillie]

Yeah but the only way imo they get in is by Tcu or usc losing next week. I think usc is in as of now… Williams is probably the heisman winner currently and no way the committee is leaving them out if they can help it.

Have a feeling one of Tcu and usc will lose. Will they take osu or a 2 loss bama? My opinion Sec should get two teams before a weak big ten.

[bjf123]

Have a feeling one of Tcu and usc will lose. Will they take osu or a 2 loss bama? My opinion Sec should get two teams before a weak big ten.

Agreed. I’d rather see ‘Bama over tOSU.


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[D-West & PO-Z]

Georgia and Michigan are locks at this point regardless of champ game outcomes.

TCU and USC in if they win.

If one loses I think OSU gets in over bama, but could be a toss up. If both lose? Does TCU still have any chance of getting in with 1 loss? Or do they throw in OSU and bama and call it a day? LSU killed their chances last night. So did Clemson.

[Masterofreality]

Georgia and Michigan are locks at this point regardless of champ game outcomes.

TCU and USC in if they win.

If one loses I think OSU gets in over bama, but could be a toss up. If both lose? Does TCU still have any chance of getting in with 1 loss? Or do they throw in OSU and bama and call it a day? LSU killed their chances last night. So did Clemson.

I’ll say it right now.
None of the top 4 will lose in their conference championship.
Georgia, Michigan, TCU and USC.
Georgia will win in a walk.

[paulxu]

Freeze to Auburn.

[barrybills]

so it all comes down to USC Utah on friday. OSU can get in thru the back door and maybe get revenge on michigan

[Xville]

so i was scanning the college football schedule this week and noticed that FBS New Mexico State is playing Valpo this week? Valpo is in the Pioneer league....does that happen often? Really strange to me a pioneer league team would be playing an fbs team. yikes

[GoMuskies]

Calling New Mexico State FBS is generous!

[nickgyp]

so i was scanning the college football schedule this week and noticed that FBS New Mexico State is playing Valpo this week? Valpo is in the Pioneer league....does that happen often? Really strange to me a pioneer league team would be playing an fbs team. yikes

Apparently, New Mexico State just added the game to its schedule in the hopes of finishing 6-6 to be bowl eligible per the PFL Fan Forum. This is maybe the 3rd of 4th time ever that a PFL team has played a FBS team. NMS has a coach who played QB at Valpo some time ago and helped arrange this game that looks to net some $450,000.00 for the Valpo program.

Sort of like when Duquesne went to Florida State this year. Pay day for the Dukes but a very risky endeavor as it was FCS vs. FBS. Fla. St. won by some 47-7. Not sure of any reported injuries.

[JTG]

Apparently, New Mexico State just added the game to its schedule in the hopes of finishing 6-6 to be bowl eligible per the PFL Fan Forum. This is maybe the 3rd of 4th time ever that a PFL team has played a FBS team. NMS has a coach who played QB at Valpo some time ago and helped arrange this game that looks to net some $450,000.00 for the Valpo program.

Sort of like when Duquesne went to Florida State this year. Pay day for the Dukes but a very risky endeavor as it was FCS vs. FBS. Fla. St. won by some 47-7. Not sure of any reported injuries.

I'm surprised Indiana football hasn't thought of a buy game with Butler. Except they could very possibly lose said buy game.

[Xville]

Oh goody Ohio state is in again. Might as well have bama in there too and make the playoff really lame again.
Zzzzzz

[American X]

I am not convinced that Ohio State is a better team or has a better resume than Alabama. One loss versus two loss is too simplistic in this age of metrics. You know that Alabama would be favored head to head.

Wow did Tennesse blow one for the ages. They could be cruising to the playoff and a Heisman.

[paulxu]

Wow did Tennesse blow one for the ages. They could be cruising to the playoff and a Heisman.

63-38. :lolgroup:

[American X]

Bold Prediction: Alabama gets into the playoff and wins the whole thing.

[bjf123]

As long as tOSU doesn’t get in. Of course, they will now that both USC and TCU lost.


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[xu82]

Bold Prediction: Alabama gets into the playoff and wins the whole thing.

TCU is making a case for why they still belong. I like the idea of fresh teams in the playoff, but I’d enjoy seeing how they held up against Bama. They can argue they have fewer losses, but what would Vegas think of that? I have a guess.

[paulxu]

Would have liked to seen TCU win today.

Georgia is playing different football that most other teams.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I think it will be:

UGA
UM
TCU
OSU

Think TCU may stay at 3 given the loss was in OT by 3 to the #10 team in the country. Unless the CFP committee really wants a UM/OSU playoff game.

[Xville]

To illustrate the difference between fbs and the pfl that Xavier may one day be a part of…. New Mexico State, an awful fbs team beat pfl team Valparaiso 65-3 yesterday.

[UCGRAD4X]

To illustrate the difference between fbs and the pfl that Xavier may one day be a part of…. New Mexico State, an awful fbs team beat pfl team Valparaiso 65-3 yesterday.

Woo-hoo! NMS is bowl eligible! Can't wait to watch the Vienna Sausage Bowl. Must be worth the buy and what-not expenses for both games.

[Xville]

Glad to see that Tcu got in.. at least a little bit of a different flavor in there and someone to root for.

[Xville]

Wow uc enjoy a really mediocre coach lol. Satterfield to uc

[GoMuskies]

Satterfield REALLY hated it at Louisville. Wow. Makes that bowl pretty interesting.

[Xville]

Brohm coming home this time

[paulxu]

Only 43 bowls this year.

[nickgyp]

Glad to see that Tcu got in.. at least a little bit of a different flavor in there and someone to root for.

Same here. Awhile back, TCU was very good with a QB last name of Boykin who was outstanding. Fun to watch; and new to the FBS top echelon. Plus, being nicknamed the Horned Frogs. What wasn’t to like? Both my wife enjoyed the TCU-Baylor game this year although execution of the last second FG was a bit dicey. Tough loss to a very good Kansas State team but glad to see them get in even though the missus called them the Horned Toads…

[JTG]

Brohm coming home this time

I doubt it. Brohm has things working at Purdue, and it's a way better job than Louisville.

[GoMuskies]

it's a way better job than Louisville.

Doubt

[JTG]

Only 43 bowls this year.

40 of them don't matter, and 30 of them will be in half empty stadiums.

[Strange Brew]

Only 43 bowls this year.

Ugh, of all the teams for ND to get this year...:)

[Xville]

I doubt it. Brohm has things working at Purdue, and it's a way better job than Louisville.

Purdue is not a better football job than Louisville. Louisville is not an amazing city, but west Lafayette is a dump. Louisville has had way more success in the last twenty years then purdue with multiple coaches, plus the Brohm family is Louisville football. Only reason he didn’t take it last time is because of certain relationships with families on the roster, that’s not the case this time around. Brohm will be announced in a few weeks.

Take a look at Louisville’s recruiting class for next year… that’s due to adidas nil money… Purdue doesn’t have anything that comes close to that kind of power in football . They are a middle of the rung Nike school.

[GoMuskies]

Take a look at Louisville’s recruiting class for next year

All the best kids in that class committed to Steve Clarkson (the dad of the star QB recruit Pierce). If the Clarksons bless the next Louisville coach, there's a good chance they keep the class together.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Purdue is not a better football job than Louisville. Louisville is not an amazing city, but west Lafayette is a dump. Louisville has had way more success in the last twenty years then purdue with multiple coaches, plus the Brohm family is Louisville football. Only reason he didn’t take it last time is because of certain relationships with families on the roster, that’s not the case this time around. Brohm will be announced in a few weeks.

Take a look at Louisville’s recruiting class for next year… that’s due to adidas nil money… Purdue doesn’t have anything that comes close to that kind of power in football . They are a middle of the rung Nike school.

Why would it take a few weeks. That seems like it would be a massive mistake to have it take that long. The portal is now open right? Louisville better make a hire by this time next week at the latest.

[GoMuskies]

Why would it take a few weeks. That seems like it would be a massive mistake to have it take that long. The portal is now open right? Louisville better make a hire by this time next week at the latest.

If it's Brohm, it's going to happen this week. Maybe today. If not, it could take a bit.

[Xville]

All the best kids in that class committed to Steve Clarkson (the dad of the star QB recruit Pierce). If the Clarksons bless the next Louisville coach, there's a good chance they keep the class together.

Guess who was extremely active in trying to get Clarkson and was extremely close? They weren’t able to get the nil money for him, that’s why he ended up committing to Louisville over purdue.

The class will only get better when Micah from st x comes along with saddiq. Class could end up being a top 10-15 class

[paulxu]

Ugh, of all the teams for ND to get this year...:)

Hah! Let's go Cocks :)

[Xville]

Why would it take a few weeks. That seems like it would be a massive mistake to have it take that long. The portal is now open right? Louisville better make a hire by this time next week at the latest.

Couple of weeks may be a stretch but I’m thinking there may be a whole lot of back and forth in terms of dollars. Maybe it will happen sooner.

[bobbiemcgee]

Coach Prime to Colorado.

[GoMuskies]

Coach Prime to Colorado.

Did you see his speech to the inherited players inviting them all to leave? That was something. LOL

[D-West & PO-Z]

He's bringing his luggage with him, and it's Louis......

[Strange Brew]

I can’t wait. Neon in Boulder. Only Mork could think this up…:)

I’ll be there for at least one game next season.

[American X]

Coach Prime to Colorado.

Why jump at the first terrible opportunity? He could bide his time and get a prime gig in the South. Georgia Tech if he wants a former national champion that was run into the ground.

[Masterofreality]

Purdue is not a better football job than Louisville. Louisville is not an amazing city, but west Lafayette is a dump. Louisville has had way more success in the last twenty years then purdue with multiple coaches, plus the Brohm family is Louisville football. Only reason he didn’t take it last time is because of certain relationships with families on the roster, that’s not the case this time around. Brohm will be announced in a few weeks.

Take a look at Louisville’s recruiting class for next year… that’s due to adidas nil money… Purdue doesn’t have anything that comes close to that kind of power in football . They are a middle of the rung Nike school.

Hmmm. Big 10 school that is in the center of the biggest league along with the SEC, vs Dump school in a barely passable football league.
Would you say that the SucKS job is a better job than Wisconsin, because these two situations are almost identical in opposite form.
Brohm would be an idiot to go back to his alma mater.

Louisville thinks everything can be solved with throwing money all over. It hasn’t worked and actually the opposite has occurred. U of L is a damn mess.

[Xville]

Hmmm. Big 10 school that is in the center of the biggest league along with the SEC, vs Dump school in a barely passable football league.
Would you say that the SucKS job is a better job than Wisconsin, because these two situations are almost identical in opposite form.
Brohm would be an idiot to go back to his alma mater.

Louisville thinks everything can be solved with throwing money all over. It hasn’t worked and actually the opposite has occurred. U of L is a damn mess.

Lol is northwestern better than Clemson? I mean they are big ten vs a “passable league” I know you hate Louisville so responding to you is worthless, but the situations are nowhere near the same. Purdue and Wisconsin aren’t even on the same planet in terms of football.

Brohm is coming home

[GoMuskies]

I suspect Jeff Brohm is about to respectfully disagree with you MOR.

[drudy23]

Louisville thinks everything can be solved with throwing money all over. It hasn’t worked and actually the opposite has occurred. U of L is a damn mess.

Yup. It's not surprising the corruption that has resulted from this approach.

[GoMuskies]

Appears it took Louisville about 36 hours to extract Brohm from that better situation in West Laffayette this time.

[Xville]

6 year 35 mil… about what he was making aav at “ better” lol Purdue.

That Horrible Louisville Administration just got rid of a mediocre coach, is making UC pay the freight for said mediocre coach and getting a guy who has won everywhere he has been for the same amount he was making.

What a horrible administration

[xudash]

6 year 35 mil… about what he was making aav at “ better” lol Purdue.

That Horrible Louisville Administration just got rid of a mediocre coach, is making UC pay the freight for said mediocre coach and getting a guy who has won everywhere he has been for the same amount he was making.

What a horrible administration

Brohm is going home. I seriously doubt that he would have moved from Purdue (B1G) to UL (ACC) had he not gone to school at Louisville. Per your own admission, they certainly weren't capable of luring him away for more money.

UL has a sub-500 record in bowls, and it has only been to two major bowls in its entire existence. ZERO national championships, not that it has ever been in any kind of position to sniff one. It's track record in the ACC has been mediocre at best. Bobby Petrino is (was) as dirty as they come. Less than nice descriptive adjectives come to mind when "University of Louisville Athletics" is mentioned.

In what has proven to be a glaring blunder, the ACC extended its conference (media) rights deal through 2035/36. Its GOR structure makes it financially untenable for a member school to leave. Payouts per school are in the low $30 millions - they are essentially locked into that for over a decade.

In the meantime, Purdue - excuse me: "better lol Purdue" - as a member of the B1G, is headed towards what appears to be at least $75 million per year in media payouts (I've quoted $90 million for the B1G elsewhere, but I tried to find the most conservative figure on the subject to make an obvious point).

UL does not have a distinguished record in college football. Its athletic department has a very soiled reputation. Perhaps Brohm can go home and at least clean that up. Either way, UL is not some kind of powerhouse or high-potential program.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville has won the Fiesta, Sugar and Orange Bowls in the last 30 years. Not a fantastic history, but they're not Purdue! LOL

I think the odds that the average coach with no tie to Louisville would leave Purdue to go to Louisville are pretty low. I think the odds that the average coach with no tie to Purdue would leave Louisville to go to Purdue are essentially nil.

[Xville]

Brohm is going home. I seriously doubt that he would have moved from Purdue (B1G) to UL (ACC) had he not gone to school at Louisville. Per your own admission, they certainly weren't capable of luring him away for more money.

UL has a sub-500 record in bowls, and it has only been to two major bowls in its entire existence. ZERO national championships, not that it has ever been in any kind of position to sniff one. It's track record in the ACC has been mediocre at best. Bobby Petrino is (was) as dirty as they come. Less than nice descriptive adjectives come to mind when "University of Louisville Athletics" is mentioned.

In what has proven to be a glaring blunder, the ACC extended its conference (media) rights deal through 2035/36. Its GOR structure makes it financially untenable for a member school to leave. Payouts per school are in the low $30 millions - they are essentially locked into that for over a decade.

In the meantime, Purdue - excuse me: "better lol Purdue" - as a member of the B1G, is headed towards what appears to be at least $75 million per year in media payouts (I've quoted $90 million for the B1G elsewhere, but I tried to find the most conservative figure on the subject to make an obvious point).

UL does not have a distinguished record in college football. Its athletic department has a very soiled reputation. Perhaps Brohm can go home and at least clean that up. Either way, UL is not some kind of powerhouse or high-potential program.

They have won three BCS level bowls. How many has Purdue won?

Never said that UL is a powerhouse, but the potential is extremely high, and is much higher there than at Purdue in the landscape of what matters in college football today---NIL money. And, if you truly believe that the ACC is just going to standby with that tv deal, I have a couple of bridges to sell you.

Not really sure what you are trying to accomplish, but Louisville is a better football job than Purdue. Nicer facilities, Nicer City, More NIL Money, More college football history etc etc.

We aren't talking Ohio State or even Wisconsin vs Louisville...it's Purdue. And all of this talk of well "they are in the big ten" so its better is sorry. Northwestern vs Clemson...who is better and who is set up for continued success?

I'll take any bet that anyone wants to make as to who makes the CFP first...Purdue or Louisville. Keep in mind that Purdue will have real competition next year in the west.

[Masterofreality]

Lol is northwestern better than Clemson? I mean they are big ten vs a “passable league” I know you hate Louisville so responding to you is worthless, but the situations are nowhere near the same. Purdue and Wisconsin aren’t even on the same planet in terms of football.

Brohm is coming home

I don’t hate Louisville. I was born there, I’m from there, my mother went to school there, many of my cousins went to school there and they are huge fans and we never argue.
What I do hate is what Louisville has become. A money grubbing, booster dependent corrupt institution, that relies on idiots like Papa John to try to keep them relevant. All this good ol boy, Pat on the back corruption caused the city to build a tax drain, money losing facility (Yum Center) that sits vacant almost 300 days a year when Freedom Hall, that is closer to campus, could have been renovated for a fraction. The corruption has been present since Pitino. And by the way, Brohm is not the Godfather of Louisville football. It was Howard Schnellenberger who Brohm played for.
Brohm was lured by the dirty bucks, as was Mack, with the extra ingredient that he’s a local and went to Trinity. Once his program turns south, the booster mafia will come for him too.
But he’ll be rich, like Mack, and washed out by the Sewer that joke of an institution has turned into.

[Xville]

I donÂ’t hate Louisville. I was born there, IÂ’m from there, my mother went to school there, many of my cousins went to school there and they are huge fans and we never argue.
What I do hate is what Louisville has become. A money grubbing, booster dependent corrupt institution, that relies on idiots like Papa John to try to keep them relevant. All this good ol boy, Pat on the back corruption caused the city to build a tax drain, money losing facility (Yum Center) that sits vacant almost 300 days a year when Freedom Hall, that is closer to campus, could have been renovated for a fraction. The corruption has been present since Pitino. And by the way, Brohm is not the Godfather of Louisville football. It was Howard Schnellenberger who Brohm played for.
Brohm was lured by the dirty bucks, as was Mack, with the extra ingredient that heÂ’s a local and went to Trinity. Once his program turns south, the booster mafia will come for him too.
But heÂ’ll be rich, like Mack, and washed out by the Sewer that joke of an institution has turned into.

Ok I take back that you hate louisville, instead you are living in a past that doesn't exist anymore.

1.) The Yum is hardly ever empty and does not lose money. Yes there were favors done...shocking something like that happens in a city...Shocked I tell you! The initial deal was favorable to Louisville...that has since been reworked numerous times. Its also a venue that brings people downtown to spend money since Louisville doesn't have a big four professional sports team. This in turn has generated revenue for hotels, restaurants etc, and helped persuade Louisville FC to build their complex nearby which again produced more economic activity downtown. Bellarmine is now playing at Freedom Hall, a win-win for everyone.

The Brohm family is Louisville football, it started with Oscar way before Howard.

2.) I'll say that yes there was corruption in the department for years with Jurich and Ramsey as the figureheads...however, most of that has been cleaned out, Papa is not associated with the university in any capacity anymore. Not sure why you are living in the past, and I sure as hell don't give an F about Mack. F him and to compare Jeff and him at all is ridiculous. Two completely different people with two very different moral compasses.

The fact that you said Brohm was lured by the dirty bucks makes zero sense when he was making the same amount at Purdue. He's coming to bring the football program back to where it was and has the potential to be---he reached the apex of what could be done at Purdue.

BTW, Josh Heird is a smart, savvy and respectable AD and Louisville has a new President and as far as the bolded part (outside of corrupt), yeah welcome to big time college athletics.

[Masterofreality]

Ok I take back that you hate louisville, instead you are living in a past that doesn't exist anymore.

1.) The Yum is hardly ever empty and does not lose money. Yes there were favors done...shocking something like that happens in a city...Shocked I tell you! The initial deal was favorable to Louisville...that has since been reworked numerous times. Its also a venue that brings people downtown to spend money since Louisville doesn't have a big four professional sports team. This in turn has generated revenue for hotels, restaurants etc, and helped persuade Louisville FC to build their complex nearby which again produced more economic activity downtown. Bellarmine is now playing at Freedom Hall, a win-win for everyone.

The Brohm family is Louisville football, it started with Oscar way before Howard.

2.) I'll say that yes there was corruption in the department for years with Jurich and Ramsey as the figureheads...however, most of that has been cleaned out, Papa is not associated with the university in any capacity anymore. Not sure why you are living in the past, and I sure as hell don't give an F about Mack. F him and to compare Jeff and him at all is ridiculous. Two completely different people with two very different moral compasses.

The fact that you said Brohm was lured by the dirty bucks makes zero sense when he was making the same amount at Purdue. He's coming to bring the football program back to where it was and has the potential to be---he reached the apex of what could be done at Purdue.

BTW, Josh Heird is a smart, savvy and respectable AD and Louisville has a new President and as far as the bolded part (outside of corrupt), yeah welcome to big time college athletics.

I’m not living in any past. Boosters still rule the day. If not Papa John, many other jerks. Louisville athletics is a mess. Payne was a boosters choice, and is a mess. Football is mediocre.
Stop defending a sewer. You look the clown.


And The hell Yum makes money. Yum Center is a loser.

The Courier Journal, twice:
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/investigations/2018/07/12/kfc-yum-center-billion-dollar-baby/498902002/

Sorry, I got locked out of the second CJ article from 2021. It stated that the Yum Center debt grew by $28 million in the latest fiscal year.

But here’s one more:

https://urbanaffairsreview.com/2020/09/02/getting-stifed-louisvilles-yum-center-sales-tax-increment-financing-and-megaproject-underperformance/

[Xville]

The hell it does. Yum Center is a loser.

The Courier Journal, twice:
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/investigations/2018/07/12/kfc-yum-center-billion-dollar-baby/498902002/

Sorry, I got locked out of the second CJ article from 2021. It stated that the Yum Center debt grew by $28 million in the latest fiscal year.

But here’s one more:

https://urbanaffairsreview.com/2020/09/02/getting-stifed-louisvilles-yum-center-sales-tax-increment-financing-and-megaproject-underperformance/

https://www.kfcyumcenter.com/assets/doc/AEG-KFC-Yum-Center-2019-20-Operating-Budget-9750341c33.pdf

This was the last year where the world was "normal" ---the last two years much like everything in our world have been very different but i suspect that the next year (22-23) will look much like this one.

[Masterofreality]

The CJ article was pre pandemic, 2018. that’s why I picked it out.
The place is still a huge drain on Louisville and will be even more under Payne. 114 events out of 365 days does not a profit make. The city almost defaulted on the bonds.
I guess you ignore all the “full” empty seats.
I can care less. Keep arguing with yourself

[Xville]

I’m not living in any past. Boosters still rule the day. If not Papa John, many other jerks. Louisville athletics is a mess. Payne was a boosters choice, and is a mess. Football is mediocre.
Stop defending a sewer. You look the clown.


And The hell Yum makes money. Yum Center is a loser.

The Courier Journal, twice:
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/investigations/2018/07/12/kfc-yum-center-billion-dollar-baby/498902002/

Sorry, I got locked out of the second CJ article from 2021. It stated that the Yum Center debt grew by $28 million in the latest fiscal year.

But here’s one more:

https://urbanaffairsreview.com/2020/09/02/getting-stifed-louisvilles-yum-center-sales-tax-increment-financing-and-megaproject-underperformance/

Yeah weird that a school would make a bad hiring decision backed by boosters...Cough: Steele :Cough.

Yes the debt grew due to refinancing that put it in better financial position. As I had stated earlier, the initial agreement which I had conceded was bad for taxpayers has been restructured several times to put it in better position. Maybe you should take a finance class or two to understand that that doesn't mean it is losing money.

Who are these "jerks?"

[GoMuskies]

LOL, there's a major college athletics program where boosters don't rule the roost? Where?

[xudash]

They have won three BCS level bowls. How many has Purdue won?

Never said that UL is a powerhouse, but the potential is extremely high, and is much higher there than at Purdue in the landscape of what matters in college football today---NIL money. And, if you truly believe that the ACC is just going to standby with that tv deal, I have a couple of bridges to sell you.

Not really sure what you are trying to accomplish, but Louisville is a better football job than Purdue. Nicer facilities, Nicer City, More NIL Money, More college football history etc etc.

We aren't talking Ohio State or even Wisconsin vs Louisville...it's Purdue. And all of this talk of well "they are in the big ten" so its better is sorry. Northwestern vs Clemson...who is better and who is set up for continued success?

I'll take any bet that anyone wants to make as to who makes the CFP first...Purdue or Louisville. Keep in mind that Purdue will have real competition next year in the west.

Could you expand on the bolded statement please. I'm curious as to what the ACC is planning to do to improve their media rights/distribution position between now and 2035/36. Seriously, I'm not baiting you. If you have heard of anything out there that's bubbling up about this, I would love to read about it.

[Xville]

Could you expand on the bolded statement please. I'm curious as to what the ACC is planning to do to improve their media rights/distribution position between now and 2035/36. Seriously, I'm not baiting you. If you have heard of anything out there that's bubbling up about this, I would love to read about it.

I haven’t heard anything, I just think that after looking at the landscape of college football and the media deals being handed out , that they are not just going to sit by and take their medicine on this deal. If the big 12 is getting 32 without Texas and Oklahoma, I think the acc will be able to get more. My assumption is that something occurs with the remaining pac 12 members in either that they just poach a few or if everything remains “stable” they work out some kind of deal with the pac12 for increased revenue.

I don’t know exactly what the framework will be or how they are going to get there, but I really don’t see the acc just taking it, as long as Clemson, Miami and Florida state are all there.

[JEHARDI]

I haven’t heard anything, I just think that after looking at the landscape of college football and the media deals being handed out , that they are not just going to sit by and take their medicine on this deal. If the big 12 is getting 32 without Texas and Oklahoma, I think the acc will be able to get more. My assumption is that something occurs with the remaining pac 12 members in either that they just poach a few or if everything remains “stable” they work out some kind of deal with the pac12 for increased revenue.

I don’t know exactly what the framework will be or how they are going to get there, but I really don’t see the acc just taking it, as long as Clemson, Miami and Florida state are all there.

The likelihood of Clemson, FSU and Florida leaving is greater than the ACC getting a new deal. They have no leverage, the only 3 schools that anyone cares about do.

[Xville]

The likelihood of Clemson, FSU and Florida leaving is greater than the ACC getting a new deal. They have no leverage, the only 3 schools that anyone cares about do.

There’s plenty of leverage. There are a crap load of media services.. I said on here a couple of years ago that Amazon would soon be getting into the sports business and people laughed, and they now have the nfl.

If that doesn’t work, then as I said something can be worked out with the pac 12. To think the acc is just going to sit by and take this for the next 15 years is naive. They aren’t going to get near what the sec/big ten has, but I believe the large gap will be closed a bit.

[JTG]

Welcome to Clemson, Fl St. & Miami in the SEC, and ND in the BIG,and the rest of the ACC on life support. That's what's most likely.

[Xville]

Welcome to Clemson, Fl St. & Miami in the SEC, and ND in the BIG,and the rest of the ACC on life support. That's what's most likely.

Yeah and brohm isn’t going to Louisville either. Notre dame isn’t joining the big ten in football. Never going to happen. And if the sec wanted those teams, they’d have them by now.

[JTG]

Yeah and brohm isn’t going to Louisville either. Notre dame isn’t joining the big ten in football. Never going to happen. And if the sec wanted those teams, they’d have them by now.

Most people didn't know that Brohm had pulled a Mack and agreed to go to Louisville in the middle of the football season but kept it under wraps. The only thing that can save the ACC in its current configuration is ND joining for football. Then they have a whole bunch of media choices.

[Xville]

Most people didn't know that Brohm had pulled a Mack and agreed to go to Louisville in the middle of the football season but kept it under wraps. The only thing that can save the ACC in its current configuration is ND joining for football. Then they have a whole bunch of media choices.

You just make that up or get that off some dude on twitter? Of course people know that Brohm wanted to come home , but unlike Mack, Brohm actually has a moral compass.

You are misinformed regarding the ACC. ESPN is heavily invested in the ACC and it makes financial sense to keep the league together and sustainable. They're 50% stakeholders in the ACC network, and though the SEC is the cow for them, they still need to fill slots on Saturday since they lost out on the Big Ten.

[xudash]

You just make that up or get that off some dude on twitter? Of course people know that Brohm wanted to come home , but unlike Mack, Brohm actually has a moral compass.

You are misinformed regarding the ACC. ESPN is heavily invested in the ACC and it makes financial sense to keep the league together and sustainable. They're 50% stakeholders in the ACC network, and though the SEC is the cow for them, they still need to fill slots on Saturday since they lost out on the Big Ten.

They'll be filling those existing ACC game slots with ACC games under the current ACC contract. ESPN doesn't have to provide any additional funding to do that. The ACC has no where else to go, especially given how its contract/GOR is structured - ACC member institutions are handcuffed in this "madness." Last but not least, Notre Dame will not join the ACC for football.

The only way out is for ACC members to vote to blow it all up from within. I believe that would call for 8 votes, but I'm not sure. I doubt schools like Wake Forest, Duke, Syracuse and Boston College are very excited about losing the existing deal, which speaks volumes for their relative positions in all this. Pitt and NC State are two other programs that are living closer to the edge of disaster than they are being close to a B1G/SEC invite, but they're not as close to the danger zone as the aforementioned four.

Perhaps the best way to look at this from Louisville's perspective is to ask a simple question: where could UL land were the ACC to implode? UL has no chance for a B1G invite. Some combination of Florida State, Clemson and Miami would be sought by the SEC before UL ever had a crack at it, and Kentucky would most definitely veto UL's inclusion anyway (to be fair, the Florida schools would have to make sense to the conference and to the University of Florida, and South Carolina would have something to say about Clemson).

Absent the ability to land in the B1G or SEC, perhaps UL's next best bet would be to join the Big 12. You would end up with at least $30 million per year and have a crack at the 12-team playoff. The P5 is going to the P2 and everyone else, but there will still be enough resources at a number of non-P2 schools to field competitive programs, and the expanded play off will help.

[Xville]

[/B]

They'll be filling those existing ACC game slots with ACC games under the current ACC contract. ESPN doesn't have to provide any additional funding to do that. The ACC has no where else to go, especially given how its contract/GOR is structured - ACC member institutions are handcuffed in this "madness." Last but not least, Notre Dame will not join the ACC for football.

The only way out is for ACC members to vote to blow it all up from within. I believe that would call for 8 votes, but I'm not sure. I doubt schools like Wake Forest, Duke, Syracuse and Boston College are very excited about losing the existing deal, which speaks volumes for their relative positions in all this. Pitt and NC State are two other programs that are living closer to the edge of disaster than they are being close to a B1G/SEC invite, but they're not as close to the danger zone as the aforementioned four.

Perhaps the best way to look at this from Louisville's perspective is to ask a simple question: where could UL land were the ACC to implode? UL has no chance for a B1G invite. Some combination of Florida State, Clemson and Miami would be sought by the SEC before UL ever had a crack at it, and Kentucky would most definitely veto UL's inclusion anyway (to be fair, the Florida schools would have to make sense to the conference and to the University of Florida, and South Carolina would have something to say about Clemson).

Absent the ability to land in the B1G or SEC, perhaps UL's next best bet would be to join the Big 12. You would end up with at least $30 million per year and have a crack at the 12-team playoff. The P5 is going to the P2 and everyone else, but there will still be enough resources at a number of non-P2 schools to field competitive programs, and the expanded play off will help.

You forgot the part where I stated that ESPN has financial interest in seeing the ACC not only survive but thrive.

As I also stated earlier, if the SEC wanted Clemson, Miami, and Florida State, they'd already be there. They already have those markets, no reason to bring on additional members when there aren't huge financial gains to be had.

[xudash]

You forgot the part where I stated that ESPN has financial interest in seeing the ACC not only survive but thrive.

As I also stated earlier, if the SEC wanted Clemson, Miami, and Florida State, they'd already be there. They already have those markets, no reason to bring on additional members when there aren't huge financial gains to be had.

Well, based on that, we will see if ESPN voluntarily coughs up additional money within the existing agreement in order to make sure that the ACC “thrives.” Good luck with that.

Otherwise, the fact that the SEC has not taken on any additional schools yet doesn’t have anything to do with what it may do down the road.

[Xville]

Well, based on that, we will see if ESPN voluntarily coughs up additional money within the existing agreement in order to make sure that the ACC “thrives.” Good luck with that.

Otherwise, the fact that the SEC has not taken on any additional schools yet doesn’t have anything to do with what it may do down the road.

ESPN wouldn't be doing it out of the goodness of their heart, they are financially invested in the conference doing well.

[Xville]

This is one idea of what I am talking about:

https://www.si.com/college/2022/07/06/acc-pac-12-espn-tv-partnership-discussions

Yes the Big Ten and the SEC will always have more money, that's not anything new. However, I'm also confident that the other leagues will close the gap to where it was.

[GoMuskies]

One thing is for certain: no college football coach has a clip this legendary to show to recruits/players!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1600533470161387525

[JEHARDI]

ESPN wouldn't be doing it out of the goodness of their heart, they are financially invested in the conference doing well.

ESPN has a much larger investment in the SEC, no reason to throw more $ at the ACC. There will be more movement in the power 5, they can wait and see how it plays out.

[GoMuskies]

Appears Mike Leach is either already dead or will die shortly. That's shocking and awful. What an unusual, interesting dude.

[xu82]

Appears Mike Leach is either already dead or will die shortly. That's shocking and awful. What an unusual, interesting dude.

Yikes! He’s “only” 61 which is a lot younger than it used to be from where I sit. Prayers to the entire family and loved ones.

[paulxu]

RIP Mike Leach.

[paulxu]

In reading about football players entering the portal, there are some with good numbers.
Like the 3 year QB from Coastal Carolina with a lot of records.

I wonder, with the NIL situation, do some (many?) of these players already have a landing spot when the go into the portal...or is it that they just hope for a better situation to come their way?

[GoMuskies]

Purdue hired Illinois defensive coordinator Ryan Walters as their new head coach.

[Masterofreality]

Mike Leach was a classic. #RIP

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24866357/the-untold-1999-texas-oklahoma-story-mike-leach-fake-play-script

[paulxu]

Working his way back to Louisville.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35258133/sources-unlv-hiring-bobby-petrino-offensive-coordinator

[GoMuskies]

Working his way back to Louisville.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35258133/sources-unlv-hiring-bobby-petrino-offensive-coordinator

Excellent news if you're a fan of UNLV football.

[paulxu]

What an interesting guy:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/12/15/mike-leach-key-west/

[Xville]

Excellent news if you're a fan of UNLV football.

Only problem is that Odom is the head coach, although I guess if you are unlv, mediocrity is very welcome!

[paulxu]

Promising end of the season for the Cocks with boat-racing Tenn and beating Clempson.
Fell apart in the second half against ND in what turned into a close game.
On to next year.

[Strange Brew]

Promising end of the season for the Cocks with boat-racing Tenn and beating Clempson.
Fell apart in the second half against ND in what turned into a close game.
On to next year.

Good game! Buchner played well for both teams. Everyone gets a touchdown pass! :)

Would’ve like to have seen both teams play at full strength tho.

[GoMuskies]

Literally the instant that awful kick went into the air, the Kings Island fireworks started. Probably not great for the Ohio State fans in the area.

[UCGRAD4X]

two passing TDs

two rushing TDs

two PICK6 TDs

[bjf123]

Those were two great football games. You really hate to see anyone lose.


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[94GRAD]

Those were two great football games. You really hate to see anyone lose.


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I LOVE seeing osu lose!

[XUGRAD80]

Probably the two best back to back games I’ve ever seen. With no horse in the race I could just sit back and enjoy two games between 4 very good offensive teams.

But I do enjoy seeing OSU lose, especially the way it happened. :pointandlaugh:

[bjf123]

I LOVE seeing osu lose!

Agreed. I feel sorry for their kicker, but I like watching the heads explode of some of the obnoxious OSU fans I know.


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[bobbiemcgee]

These bowl games were great this year.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Dawgs open -13.5!

[Xville]

What are people thinking tonight? I have no idea...Georgia should win, but any given Sun errr Monday. I am going to be rooting for the horned frogs...it would be pretty awesome for a team a bit bigger than Xavier to beat a blue blood for the national championship.

[Masterofreality]

If a small private school (10,500 students, smaller than DePaul by half) that is surrounded and in the shadow of bigger state schools in Texas, and was once shunned by the league that it now plays in, can buck all of those odds and get to a National Championship game, the same can happen for a small private school surrounded by, and in the shadows of bigger state schools to get to a National Championship Basketball game.
It’s gonna happen people. It’s gonna happen.

[muskiefan82]

In 1981, the Bengals went to the SuperBowl. In 1982, the winning era at Xavier began
In 1989, the Bengals went to the SuperBowl. In 1990, Xavier went to their first Sweet 16
In 2022, the Bengals went to the SuperBowl. In 2023, Xavier.........

I am hoping it is just as epic a step.

[GoMuskies]

Brutal

[Xville]

Well, that was fun for about five minutes. Shoulda known when about 80% of the money was on Tcu… Vegas is going to be able to build a few casinos just based off this take tonight

I guess the sec showing once again they are the only conference that matters

Also, duggan looks absolutely terrible.. like walk-on high school terrible. Every time they show the camera angle down field, wide receivers are wide open and he isn’t throwing the ball to them. I guess part of it is being chased by guys that are bigger, stronger and quicker than anything he’s seen

[GoMuskies]

Deion Sanders has had about 30% of his team enter the portal in the last 10 days. That's interesting.

[JTG]

Deion Sanders has had about 30% of his team enter the portal in the last 10 days. That's interesting.

Would you want to play for that loud mouth doofus?

[xu82]

Deion Sanders has had about 30% of his team enter the portal in the last 10 days. That's interesting.

Will he miss them, or is he sweeping them out? Live by the portal, die by the portal.

[xu82]

Would you want to play for that loud mouth doofus?

It would not be MY choice, but he can promote the hell out of himself.

[GoMuskies]

Will he miss them, or is he sweeping them out?

I suspect it's a bit of both.

[bobbiemcgee]

They were 1-11. So who cares.

[D-West & PO-Z]

He basically implored them all to enter the portal his first day on the job.

What is really interesting though, is their RB rushed for 150 yards in the spring game (which was aired on ESPN) and then entered the portal the next day. I will be very interested to see where he ends up.

[noteggs]

He basically implored them all to enter the portal his first day on the job.

What is really interesting though, is their RB rushed for 150 yards in the spring game (which was aired on ESPN) and then entered the portal the next day. I will be very interested to see where he ends up.

Same with a WR who had 154 receiving yards and 2 TD’s. Interesting

[bobbiemcgee]

They had 47k at the spring game which was 10x the usual crowd.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Same with a WR who had 154 receiving yards and 2 TD’s. Interesting

Bet Deion won't want their spring game on national TV next year! lol

[GoMuskies]

Bobby Petrino has only had three jobs so far in 2023. I'm sure he'd take on the Northwestern gig.