Paul McMillan commits to...

[94GRAD]

NJIT

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2022/05/12/woodwards-paul-mcmillan-play-new-jersey-institute-technology/9744399002/

[xukeith]

NJIT

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2022/05/12/woodwards-paul-mcmillan-play-new-jersey-institute-technology/9744399002/

Seems like a smart kid. Best luck to him.

[GoMuskies]

Can't believe he picked them over Xavier. :)

[Xville]

who was the genius on here who was sure that he was going to a big time basketball program?

[drudy23]

How do you go from the likes of high major to NJIT?

[94GRAD]

who was the genius on here who was sure that he was going to a big time basketball program?

I believe XUPHAN

[xuphan]

I believe XUPHAN

I did not say that.

[muskiefan82]

McMillan's final eight schools were: Cal State Northridge, New Jersey Institute of Technology, Cleveland State, Penn, Loyola Marymount, Kansas State, Ball State and Northeastern.

Maybe he was looking for something more than just basketball. That is an interesting listing of schools. Not really sure what to make of that.

Perhaps this is the "go to a low major program, explode, then transfer for an awesome NIL deal" plan. I could actually see that as an actual plan.

[Xville]

McMillan's final eight schools were: Cal State Northridge, New Jersey Institute of Technology, Cleveland State, Penn, Loyola Marymount, Kansas State, Ball State and Northeastern.

Maybe he was looking for something more than just basketball. That is an interesting listing of schools. Not really sure what to make of that.

Perhaps this is the "go to a low major program, explode, then transfer for an awesome NIL deal" plan. I could actually see that as an actual plan.

it's pretty simple. he's not that good. hes a three star, outside of the top 150 and trending down. I wish him the best, seems like a good kid, but the reality is that the big time schools backed off him. Great high school player doesn't always translate to a big time d1 talent.

[94GRAD]

I did not say that. Keep my name out of your mouth!

I appoligize, it was XUPERMAN

[profson]

McMillan's final eight schools were: Cal State Northridge, New Jersey Institute of Technology, Cleveland State, Penn, Loyola Marymount, Kansas State, Ball State and Northeastern.

Maybe he was looking for something more than just basketball. That is an interesting listing of schools. Not really sure what to make of that.

Perhaps this is the "go to a low major program, explode, then transfer for an awesome NIL deal" plan. I could actually see that as an actual plan.

The fact that this was his final group at some point does not mean all were an option at decision time

[xuphan]

I appoligize, it was XUPERMAN

Apology accepted. I’ll change my original post.

[usfldan]

Hopefully he can follow the path a couple of other local players took:

Carlik Jones (Aiken) > Radford > Louisville
Maceo Teague (Walnut Hills) > UNC Asheville > Baylor

Both were in the G-League this year.

[GoMuskies]

Or NJIT to lucrative career as an engineer.

[xavierj]

Hopefully he can follow the path a couple of other local players took:

Carlik Jones (Aiken) > Radford > Louisville
Maceo Teague (Walnut Hills) > UNC Asheville > Baylor

Both were in the G-League this year.

I wouldn’t expect that. He lacks athleticism, he is not fast, is smaller, doesn’t have a great shot and just isn’t very good. He is probably at the level he should be. I don’t expect him to be a high performer either for NJIT.

[xukeith]

With him being valedictorian and deciding on a"technical" school, maybe he will be advanced with the books, and have an outstanding career post basketball.

Surprised no MAC or OVC schools didn't sway him away from NJ.

[xavierj]

With him being valedictorian and deciding on a"technical" school, maybe he will be advanced with the books, and have an outstanding career post basketball.

Surprised no MAC or OVC schools didn't sway him away from NJ.

You are overthinking this. If he was talented enough they would have. Getting a College degree paid for at a good school will be good for him. I am sure he is thankful for the opportunity. .

[D-West & PO-Z]

NJIT

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2022/05/12/woodwards-paul-mcmillan-play-new-jersey-institute-technology/9744399002/

Better than committing to SHIT (South Harmon Institute of Technology).

[xu82]

Better than committing to SHIT (South Harmon Institute of Technology).

You have to admit, it WILL get noticed on a résumé!



However briefly after being passed around the office for a community chuckle……

[Xuperman]

I appoligize, it was XUPERMAN

It was me, and I am positive he is the real deal.

Just think Ja Morant.

[profson]

It was me, and I am positive he is the real deal.

Just think Ja Morant.

Wow. Nothing like asking for a bigger shovel when in a hole.

[UCGRAD4X]

Or NJIT to lucrative career as an engineer.

Or transfer to Olean to do welding.

[Xville]

It was me, and I am positive he is the real deal.

Just think Ja Morant.

Geezus. If you know anything about ja morant’s prep career, you would know how ridiculous this comparison is. Let alone the fact you are now comparing McMillan with one of the top ten players in the nba.

It reminds me of the time you compared kunkel and tu

[drudy23]

He's led the city in scoring for like 3 years in a row. He's also a very good shooter percentage wise (58% from field, 42% from 3). No clue how he played in AAU but maybe he got exposed there by bigger guards.

1) Schools were enamored with him as he had alot of success at the varsity level as a freshman
2) He didn't really grow since that freshman year
3) His family is a handful to deal with - all signs point to the kid being a good kid and very smart

[xavierj]

He's led the city in scoring for like 3 years in a row. He's also a very good shooter percentage wise (58% from field, 42% from 3). Not clue how he played in AAU but maybe he got exposed there by bigger guards.

1) Schools were enamored with him as he had alot of success at the varsity level as a freshman
2) He didn't really grow since that freshman year
3) His family is a handful to deal with - all signs point to the kid being a good kid and very smart

He played very poorly in AAU last year and not just against bigger guards. He played against Sean Jones who is shorter that Xavier was recruiting, and he got abused. Just seems slow and not athletic. A lot of kids score a lot in High School Basketball, but that doesn’t meant they can division 1 basketball at a high level.

[BandAid]

You all are way too flippant about us losing out on recruits to NJ-effin-IT! I am apoplectic - this is a new low for the program! I’ll say it first: fire Miller!

[xavierj]

You all are way too flippant about us losing out on recruits to NJ-effin-IT! I am apoplectic - this is a new low for the program! I’ll say it first: fire Miller!

Except Xavier didn’t lose out. He hasn’t had an offer from Xavier in about two years. I think people are surprised because he committed to a lower level program. He really didn’t have anything better as coaches feel he isn’t a division 1 level player that can help them win.

[muskiefan82]

So....what you are saying is that sometimes when you get an offer early, if you don't take it then you might not have an offer later. Sometimes waiting too long goes the other way...

[D-West & PO-Z]

So....what you are saying is that sometimes when you get an offer early, if you don't take it then you might not have an offer later. Sometimes waiting too long goes the other way...

Yeah, but committing early doesnt guarantee anything, right? I feel like I hear stories about kids getting overrecruited and until they can actually sign (is that their junior year?) the school can rescind that offer right?

[Xuperman]

Wow. Nothing like asking for a bigger shovel when in a hole.

Huh? What hole?

[Xuperman]

Geezus. If you know anything about ja morant’s prep career, you would know how ridiculous this comparison is. Let alone the fact you are now comparing McMillan with one of the top ten players in the nba.

It reminds me of the time you compared kunkel and tu

'Ville, are you so LAZY that you made no attempt to pull up his Wiki page? Obviously, you know nothing about Morant's prep career but chose to post as if you do.

Facts are, he was NOT RANKED on ANY MAJOR recruiting sites. He had only ONE major offer.....from his home state of S. Carolina. Had a small handful of offers from the likes of Duquesne, Maryland Eastern Shore, SC State, Wofford.....landed at Murray St and blossomed.

Also, you know damn well my Kunk/Tu comparison was strictly about heart/effort and it is accurate.

Dang man, you frequently tend to be a misinformed blowhard that likes to distort things to make yourself a prototypical "right fighter".

[Xuperman]

I wouldn’t expect that. He lacks athleticism, he is not fast, is smaller, doesn’t have a great shot and just isn’t very good. He is probably at the level he should be. I don’t expect him to be a high performer either for NJIT.

It's almost like we're talking about a different guy!

https://playeroftheyear.gatorade.com/winner/paul-mcmillan%20iv/39028#!

[XU_Lou]

'Ville, are you so LAZY that you made no attempt to pull up his Wiki page? Obviously, you know nothing about Morant's prep career but chose to post as if you do.

Facts are, he was NOT RANKED on ANY MAJOR recruiting sites. He had only ONE major offer.....from his home state of S. Carolina. Had a small handful of offers from the likes of Duquesne, Maryland Eastern Shore, SC State, Wofford.....landed at Murray St and blossomed.

Also, you know damn well my Kunk/Tu comparison was strictly about heart/effort and it is accurate.

Dang man, you frequently tend to be a misinformed blowhard that likes to distort things to make yourself a prototypical "right fighter".

That's just Ville being Ville... he can't help himself.

[Xuperman]

He played very poorly in AAU last year and not just against bigger guards. He played against Sean Jones who is shorter that Xavier was recruiting, and he got abused. Just seems slow and not athletic. A lot of kids score a lot in High School Basketball, but that doesn’t meant they can division 1 basketball at a high level.

Again, this is so inaccurate it makes one wonder what the hell is going on. Please post your source.

Here's some telling AAU highlights from earlier this year.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QR5Fm5B1pS0&pp=QACIAgA%3D

Here is some tape on Paul IV vs 5 star Rayvon Griffith from Taft. They've played on numerous occasions and Paul has his number.

https://www.cincinnati.com/videos/sports/high-school/high-school-sports/2022/01/13/watch-top-recruits-paul-mcmillan-iv-rayvon-griffith-battle-cmac/9189898002/

As far as the silly comment he is slow/non athletic and hasn't progressed since his freshman year, let's stay in reality.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2022/03/16/gatorades-ohio-boys-basketball-player-year-paul-mcmillan-iv/7059617001/

Made nothing but upward development EVERY YEAR!

[BandAid]

Except Xavier didn’t lose out. He hasn’t had an offer from Xavier in about two years. I think people are surprised because he committed to a lower level program. He really didn’t have anything better as coaches feel he isn’t a division 1 level player that can help them win.

Im sorry, I thought the over-the-top absurdity made it clear I was being sarcastic.

[murray87]

Is this the off-season or what??

[Final4]

Again, this is so inaccurate it makes one wonder what the hell is going on. Please post your source.

Here's some telling AAU highlights from earlier this year.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QR5Fm5B1pS0&pp=QACIAgA%3D

Here is some tape on Paul IV vs 5 star Rayvon Griffith from Taft. They've played on numerous occasions and Paul has his number.

https://www.cincinnati.com/videos/sports/high-school/high-school-sports/2022/01/13/watch-top-recruits-paul-mcmillan-iv-rayvon-griffith-battle-cmac/9189898002/

As far as the silly comment he is slow/non athletic and hasn't progressed since his freshman year, let's stay in reality.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2022/03/16/gatorades-ohio-boys-basketball-player-year-paul-mcmillan-iv/7059617001/

Made nothing but upward development EVERY YEAR!


Please explain why essentially every D1 coach passed on him? Certainly wasn’t because of grades? You clearly think the guy is a stud……..is there a logical reason why he didn’t have options?

[Xville]

'Ville, are you so LAZY that you made no attempt to pull up his Wiki page? Obviously, you know nothing about Morant's prep career but chose to post as if you do.

Facts are, he was NOT RANKED on ANY MAJOR recruiting sites. He had only ONE major offer.....from his home state of S. Carolina. Had a small handful of offers from the likes of Duquesne, Maryland Eastern Shore, SC State, Wofford.....landed at Murray St and blossomed.

Also, you know damn well my Kunk/Tu comparison was strictly about heart/effort and it is accurate.

Dang man, you frequently tend to be a misinformed blowhard that likes to distort things to make yourself a prototypical "right fighter".

Ugh. You seriously don’t have a clue. Just accept the fact that you were wrong and we can move on. I know plenty about morants prep career which is why I brought it up. The guy was a stud, he was not a late bloomer.. it’s that he didn’t play the aau circuit much and when he did it was with a team that had just been created (with Zion who then left quickly for a more prominent team) people didn’t know about him. That is in stark contrast to McMillan who has played aau, played in a major city that is extremely easy to get to, and he has been completely exposed against said aau competition and hasn’t gotten any better since freshman year. He’s not athletic nor good enough for high d 1 ball.. Morant always was

[Xville]

Again, this is so inaccurate it makes one wonder what the hell is going on. Please post your source.

Here's some telling AAU highlights from earlier this year.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QR5Fm5B1pS0&pp=QACIAgA%3D


Here is some tape on Paul IV vs 5 star Rayvon Griffith from Taft. They've played on numerous occasions and Paul has his number.

https://www.cincinnati.com/videos/sports/high-school/high-school-sports/2022/01/13/watch-top-recruits-paul-mcmillan-iv-rayvon-griffith-battle-cmac/9189898002/

As far as the silly comment he is slow/non athletic and hasn't progressed since his freshman year, let's stay in reality.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2022/03/16/gatorades-ohio-boys-basketball-player-year-paul-mcmillan-iv/7059617001/

Made nothing but upward development EVERY YEAR!

Oh boy highlight tape lol. If he is so wonderful, why is he going to njit. Explain it because you clearly see something different than those guys making millions scouting him.

[Xville]

It's almost like we're talking about a different guy!

https://playeroftheyear.gatorade.com/winner/paul-mcmillan%20iv/39028#!

Good lord there are plenty of players of the year in high school that do not translate to high d 1 basketball. It’s comparative to guys being studs in college who will never be real nba prospects.

[Xuperman]

Ugh. You seriously don’t have a clue. Just accept the fact that you were wrong and we can move on. I know plenty about morants prep career which is why I brought it up. The guy was a stud, he was not a late bloomer.. it’s that he didn’t play the aau circuit much and when he did it was with a team that had just been created (with Zion who then left quickly for a more prominent team) people didn’t know about him. That is in stark contrast to McMillan who has played aau, played in a major city that is extremely easy to get to, and he has been completely exposed against said aau competition and hasn’t gotten any better since freshman year. He’s not athletic nor good enough for high d 1 ball.. Morant always was

Do you have cement in your cranium? These national prep ranking sites are big business. They employ huge staffs and are considered EXPERTS in evaluating prep talent. Not to mention the COACHING STAFFS of any given top program. But you being you, flip the bird to these professionals and proceed to perch on your ridiculous soap box, reeking of hindsight!

Ja Morant was on NO ONES RADAR in high D1. You're a fool for claiming otherwise.

[Xuperman]

Please explain why essentially every D1 coach passed on him? Certainly wasn’t because of grades? You clearly think the guy is a stud……..is there a logical reason why he didn’t have options?

I have followed Paul IV for half a decade. He has done nothing but kick ass and take names the entire time.....not just in scoring but in any other meaningful metric.

Paul is a Cincy guy from my general neighborhood growing up. I am an everything Cincinnati guy.....just in case anyone wonders my extensive posts.

CPS basketball, as well as all large city Ohio Public School competition is far superior to any rural county competition. Since when does an Ohio HS POY (who happened to break all time records), not get High D1 interests?

It has to be personal/family aspirations for the future. Who knows, the guy may not want basketball to be his future.

[Xville]

Do you have cement in your cranium? These national prep ranking sites are big business. They employ huge staffs and are considered EXPERTS in evaluating prep talent. Not to mention the COACHING STAFFS of any given top program. But you being you, flip the bird to these professionals and proceed to perch on your ridiculous soap box, reeking of hindsight!

Ja Morant was on NO ONES RADAR in high D1. You're a fool for claiming otherwise.

Yet those same talent evaluators think very differently than you when it comes to McMillan. So I guess you are the one with cement in the cranium.

I already explained why morant wasn’t on anyones radar. You clearly are very behind the times when it comes to how players are evaluated and scouted. Ill give ya a hint, it’s very rare they are scouted while playing for their high school teams. Why would they do that, when they can scout hundreds of 4 and 5 star players at an aau tournament?

You can call me every name in the book that you want, but it’s very clear you don’t know how these things actually work nowadays.

[Xville]

I have followed Paul IV for half a decade. He has done nothing but kick ass and take names the entire time.....not just in scoring but in any other meaningful metric.

Paul is a Cincy guy from my general neighborhood growing up. I am an everything Cincinnati guy.....just in case anyone wonders my extensive posts.

CPS basketball, as well as all large city Ohio Public School competition is far superior to any rural county competition. Since when does an Ohio HS POY (who happened to break all time records), not get High D1 interests?

It has to be personal/family aspirations for the future. Who knows, the guy may not want basketball be his future.

Voncameron davis.. who is at Kent state.

[Xuperman]

Yet those same talent evaluators think very differently than you when it comes to McMillan. So I guess you are the one with cement in the cranium.

I already explained why morant wasn’t on anyones radar. You clearly are very behind the times when it comes to how players are evaluated and scouted. Ill give ya a hint, it’s very rare they are scouted while playing for their high school teams. Why would they do that, when they can scout hundreds of 4 and 5 star players at an aau tournament?

You can call me every name in the book that you want, but it’s very clear you don’t know how these things actually work nowadays.

Wow, from what I can tell, you have proved to be someone that doesn't need to be "explaining" anything to anyone here. I am positive you are clueless and just weave together BS to look informed. I am thinking you are an arrogant youngster that knows jack shit.

Are you telling me, AND everyone here, that D1 Coaching Staffs DO NOT scout recruits during High School games? That's exactly what you appear to be saying. You almost seem to lack the very basics of the process, because that is TOP PRIORITY for ALL staffs to evaluate said talent and establish personnel relationships.

(waiting for you to shamelessly back track)
:seestars2:

[Xuperman]

Yet those same talent evaluators think very differently than you when it comes to McMillan. So I guess you are the one with cement in the cranium.

Wrong again.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/paul-mcmillan-260081

[xavierj]

It's almost like we're talking about a different guy!

https://playeroftheyear.gatorade.com/winner/paul-mcmillan%20iv/39028#!

Have you ever watched him play? And one more question, college coaches have huge egos so they will overlook any obstacles if they think the player is good. Why did all of the top schools stop recruiting him? Why did UC’s new staff never offer? And Please don’t blame his dad.

[xuphan]

Not sure I understand the hate. Wish Paul all the best.

[xavierj]

Not sure I understand the hate. Wish Paul all the best.

I don’t think it is hate it’s pointing out to why he ended up where he did and that it’s probably a good fit. People are saying he ended up where he did because his dad is over the top and I don’t think think that is fair to the kid. I hope he does well but college athletics are tough. Talent will take you places and it’s cut throat. Coaches will take any kid if they can help them win. By all accounts Paul is a good kid and a good student. I am sure he will do well in life with or without basketball.

[Xuperman]

Have you ever watched him play? And one more question, college coaches have huge egos so they will overlook any obstacles if they think the player is good. Why did all of the top schools stop recruiting him? Why did UC’s new staff never offer? And Please don’t blame his dad.

Yes. I grew up in Norwood. I was taking care of my Mother at the old homestead (5309 Warren Ave.) and went down to Woodward on several occasions.
Never saw him score less than 27. Nothing but COMPLETE DOMINANCE in all phases.

What can I say?

[XUMIOH12]

I'm still just waiting for Myles Hanson to get his shot.....

[Xuperman]

I'm still just waiting for Myles Hanson to get his shot.....

Ahhh man,
THAT is an oldie but a goodie!
:perfect10:

[Xville]

Wow, from what I can tell, you have proved to be someone that doesn't need to be "explaining" anything to anyone here. I am positive you are clueless and just weave together BS to look informed. I am thinking you are an arrogant youngster that knows jack shit.

Are you telling me, AND everyone here, that D1 Coaching Staffs DO NOT scout recruits during High School games? That's exactly what you appear to be saying. You almost seem to lack the very basics of the process, because that is TOP PRIORITY for ALL staffs to evaluate said talent and establish personnel relationships.

(waiting for you to shamelessly back track)
:seestars2:

Yet you are the one who thinks McMillan is a high d1 prospect. Just a question who was right here? Thanks.

I said it’s rare and it’s much more popular for them to go the aau circuit. Not that they don’t. And that was an explanation for why ja morant went unnoticed which is absolutely true bud, and why it doesn’t matter if McMillan was great in high school. If it mattered that much, he’d be going to a high d1 school.

the kids best option was njit. Case closed

Please explain all knowing one, a realistic reason for why he went to njit other than he isn’t that good in the peoples eyes that matter

[Masterofreality]

Hmmmm.
College coaches ABSOLUTELY scout High School games- in season when they have a weekend off, but also in these mega Tournaments like Fast Break to the Beach. I’ve seen Tom Izzo, Chris Mack, Dennis Gates and many other HC’s at St. Edward. One reason why Delvon Roe went to Michigan State.
There are almost always D1 assistant coaches at high level High School games because they want to see A) How kids defend in a system, B) Court chemistry C) Playing offense in a structure.
AAU absolutely does not show that. It is basically an And 1 tape of individuality.

[Xuperman]

Please explain all knowing one, a realistic reason for why he went to njit other than he isn’t that good in the peoples eyes that matter

You appear to have some ADD bouncing around amongst the cement in your head.

I already posted my only explanation. It's entirely possible that he and his family aspire to something more than the toxic world of professional Basketball.

[Xuperman]

Hmmmm.
College coaches ABSOLUTELY scout High School games- in season when they have a weekend off, but also in these mega Tournaments like Fast Break to the Beach. I’ve seen Tom Izzo, Chris Mack, Dennis Gates and many other HC’s at St. Edward. One reason why Delvon Roe went to Michigan State.
There are almost always D1 assistant coaches at high level High School games because they want to see A) How kids defend in a system, B) Court chemistry C) Playing offense in a structure.
AAU absolutely does not show that. It is basically an And 1 tape of individuality.

In just 1 simple post, you nicely maintain MOR status.

I must, however make it clear that ALL serious Coaching Staffs are fully engaged and hands on. Never underestimate the power of creating a personal bond with the recruit AND his family.

This kind of comfort and trust is most effectively cultivated before, during and AFTER High School games.

What dumbass would think otherwise?.......
:dunno:

[Xville]

You appear to have some ADD bouncing around amongst the cement in your head.

I already posted my only explanation. It's entirely possible that he and his family aspire to something more than the toxic world of professional Basketball.

However you want to justify being wrong buddy

[XUGRAD80]

Every kid has their own reasons for choosing a certain school. It’s not always all about the sport they play and the school having a program that will get them to the pros. McMillan was the school valediction and carried a 4.0 grade point average. He’s also only 6’2”. His list of final schools was not overly impressive from a BB standpoint, but had some fine academic schools. He seems to be really enamored with the NYC area and the opportunities that he might have there for business after graduation.

HOWEVER……with the number of kids entering the transfer portal every year now and the rule that allows a 1X transfer without sitting out, how much does it really matter where a kid goes initially? If he shows that he is good enough at NJIT to play big time BB, and if he has the desire to do so, he will have plenty of opportunities to do so. If he’s not good enough or has no desire to do so, he might well be very happy there for 4 years and have a great post college business career.

[xu82]

Every kid has their own reasons for choosing a certain school. It’s not always all about the sport they play and the school having a program that will get them to the pros. McMillan was the school valediction and carried a 4.0 grade point average. He’s also only 6’2”. His list of final schools was not overly impressive from a BB standpoint, but had some fine academic schools. He seems to be really enamored with the NYC area and the opportunities that he might have there for business after graduation.

HOWEVER……with the number of kids entering the transfer portal every year now and the rule that allows a 1X transfer without sitting out, how much does it really matter where a kid goes initially? If he shows that he is good enough at NJIT to play big time BB, and if he has the desire to do so, he will have plenty of opportunities to do so. If he’s not good enough or has no desire to do so, he might well be very happy there for 4 years and have a great post college business career.

That sounds reasonable. And you weren’t arguing with anyone.

I don’t think that is how we are supposed to do this…….

[XU_Lou]

Yet those same talent evaluators think very differently than you when it comes to McMillan. So I guess you are the one with cement in the cranium.

I already explained why morant wasn’t on anyones radar. You clearly are very behind the times when it comes to how players are evaluated and scouted. Ill give ya a hint, it’s very rare they are scouted while playing for their high school teams. Why would they do that, when they can scout hundreds of 4 and 5 star players at an aau tournament?

You can call me every name in the book that you want, but it’s very clear you don’t know how these things actually work nowadays.

Well, there it is right there - first hand evidence that you're the one that's actually wrong (imagine that...):


Hmmmm.
College coaches ABSOLUTELY scout High School games- in season when they have a weekend off, but also in these mega Tournaments like Fast Break to the Beach. I’ve seen Tom Izzo, Chris Mack, Dennis Gates and many other HC’s at St. Edward. One reason why Delvon Roe went to Michigan State.
There are almost always D1 assistant coaches at high level High School games because they want to see A) How kids defend in a system, B) Court chemistry C) Playing offense in a structure.
AAU absolutely does not show that. It is basically an And 1 tape of individuality.

[Xville]

Well, there it is right there - first hand evidence that you're the one that's actually wrong (imagine that...):

Show me again lying lou where I said they don’t scout at high school games. Said it was rare, much easier to do at aau tournaments.

Point remains that McMillan ended up where he did (good luck to the young man) and comparing him to morant is obscene.

[XUGRAD80]

That sounds reasonable. And you weren’t arguing with anyone.

I don’t think that is how we are supposed to do this…….

I’ll endeavor to do better next time…:swordfight:

[XU_Lou]

Show me again lying lou where I said they don’t scout at high school games. Said it was rare, much easier to do at aau tournaments.


I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing (or is it admitting your wrong)? Let's see, MOR - that's just one person - named 3 coaches, PLUS "many other HCs" that he has personally seen at just ONE high school. That hardly counts as rare. He just totally blew your uninformed theory out of the water!!

Now, you can call all of us on this board a bunch of names and hold another one of your childish temper tantrums, but it will never changes the facts:


Hmmmm.
College coaches ABSOLUTELY scout High School games- in season when they have a weekend off, but also in these mega Tournaments like Fast Break to the Beach. I’ve seen Tom Izzo, Chris Mack, Dennis Gates and many other HC’s at St. Edward. One reason why Delvon Roe went to Michigan State.
There are almost always D1 assistant coaches at high level High School games because they want to see A) How kids defend in a system, B) Court chemistry C) Playing offense in a structure.
AAU absolutely does not show that. It is basically an And 1 tape of individuality.

[Xville]

I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing (or is it admitting your wrong)? Let's see, MOR - that's just one person - named 3 coaches, PLUS "many other HCs" that he has personally seen at just ONE high school. That hardly counts as rare. He just totally blew your uninformed theory out of the water!!

Now, you can call all of us on this board a bunch of names and hold another one of your childish temper tantrums, but it will never changes the facts:

Show me again lyin lou where I said it doesn’t happen. Ill hang up and listen.

[xavierj]

The talent evaluations are done during the spring / summer at aau events. Once they zero In on who they offer and are recruiting they will show face at high school games but that’s just to show they want them. The evaluation part has already been done. College coaches just don’t have much time during the season to scout players. That was the way it was done up until about the mid 90’s then the aau scene grew and made it easier for college coaches to evaluate talent.

[XU_Lou]

Show me again lyin lou where I said it doesn’t happen. Ill hang up and listen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V39l7UXr7WM

[Xville]

The talent evaluations are done during the spring / summer at aau events. Once they zero In on who they offer and are recruiting they will show face at high school games but that’s just to show they want them. The evaluation part has already been done. College coaches just don’t have much time during the season to scout players. That was the way it was done up until about the mid 90’s then the aau scene grew and made it easier for college coaches to evaluate talent.

Thank you… exactly

[Xuperman]

So point remains that McMillan ended up where he did (good luck to the young man) and comparing him to morant is obscene.

You've always had a substantial amount of "Troll" in you. To suggest that I was comparing McMillan to what Morant is today is truely obscene on your part. You're a self righteous hack.

You're not worth an explanation of the obvious, but I will do it anyway. To anyone other than you, it was blatantly obvious that the comparison was based on the fact that both players did not end up anywhere close to high D1. Again, Morant was NOT RANKED by any reputable national recruiting site......NOT RANKED!

You proceeded to accuse me of knowing NOTHING about Morant's prep career, but with a few taps on the Goggle Machine, it was you who looked like a fool, then tried to cover your ass in a cloud of TOTAL BS.....claiming to know some insider info on a off the radar prep kid in South Carolina. It's laughable. Regardless, one could easily argue that McMillan far exceeds where Ja was after their prep careers.

Anyone without a combative agenda can see I was referring to what can happen in the world of sports when the stars align and real talent emerges.

I know you will want a last word, in a predictable feeble attempt to maintain your "right fighter" status.

[xavierj]

You've always had a substantial amount of "Troll" in you. To suggest that I was comparing McMillan to what Morant is today is truely obscene on your part. You're a self righteous hack.

You're not worth an explanation of the obvious, but I will do it anyway. To anyone other than you, it was blatantly obvious that the comparison was based on the fact that both players did not end up anywhere close to high D1. Again, Morant was NOT RANKED by any reputable national recruiting site......NOT RANKED!

You proceeded to accuse me of knowing NOTHING about Morant's prep career, but with a few taps on the Goggle Machine, it was you who looked like a fool, then tried to cover your ass in a cloud of TOTAL BS.....claiming to know some insider info on a off the radar prep kid in South Carolina. It's laughable. Regardless, one could easily argue that McMillan far exceeds where Ja was after their prep careers.

Anyone without a combative agenda can see I was referring to what can happen in the world of sports when the stars align and real talent emerges.

I know you will want a last word, in a predictable feeble attempt to maintain your "right fighter" status.

The point with Paul remains though. All of the local coaches saw him a ton and passed. Even Travis at Miami didn’t offer. The only reason is they don’t think he is talented enough for that level and it has nothing to do with his dad. He just did t progress. If Travis, who needs to win, doesn’t feel Paul can help him then that’s all you need to know. Kid is at a good academic school and wish him well. If he wanted to stay local it would be Thomas more I guess is even NKU didn’t offer.

[Xuperman]

The point with Paul remains though. All of the local coaches saw him a ton and passed. Even Travis at Miami didn’t offer. The only reason is they don’t think he is talented enough for that level and it has nothing to do with his dad. He just did t progress. If Travis, who needs to win, doesn’t feel Paul can help him then that’s all you need to know. Kid is at a good academic school and wish him well. If he wanted to stay local it would be Thomas more I guess is even NKU didn’t offer.

To be clear on my lengthy observations on Paul IV, he is a Cincy guy and I am ALL Cincy all the time. Plus he played in my neighborhood.

I just don't understand this lack of progress narrative. He capped off his prep career at the PINNACLE..... OHIO POY, accompanied by setting ALL TIME Public School scoring records. I believe he is under consideration for Gatorade National Prep POY.

I wanted to see him suit up for X so badley, but I can only think he and family have long term considerations beyond BBall.

[Xville]

You've always had a substantial amount of "Troll" in you. To suggest that I was comparing McMillan to what Morant is today is truely obscene on your part. You're a self righteous hack.

You're not worth an explanation of the obvious, but I will do it anyway. To anyone other than you, it was blatantly obvious that the comparison was based on the fact that both players did not end up anywhere close to high D1. Again, Morant was NOT RANKED by any reputable national recruiting site......NOT RANKED!

You proceeded to accuse me of knowing NOTHING about Morant's prep career, but with a few taps on the Goggle Machine, it was you who looked like a fool, then tried to cover your ass in a cloud of TOTAL BS.....claiming to know some insider info on a off the radar prep kid in South Carolina. It's laughable. Regardless, one could easily argue that McMillan far exceeds where Ja was after their prep careers.

Anyone without a combative agenda can see I was referring to what can happen in the world of sports when the stars align and real talent emerges.

I know you will want a last word, in a predictable feeble attempt to maintain your "right fighter" status.

It’s not inside information jackass. It’s morants story… the reason he was not heavily recruited m is because he didn’t play the aau circuit much and when he did, it was on a team that had just started and not well known. This was discussed ad nauseum by the talking heads during the ovc conference tournament and during the ncaa tourney. Just because you had no clue, doesn’t mean I was wrong. The comparison to morant was effing stupid because McMillan was seen over and over during his prep career and during aau and the majors backed off of him after his sophomore year because they are smarter than you. Morants case was compeletely different because he wasn’t looked at much due to what I previously mentioned. I’m sorry you have such a comprehension and understanding issue, but hopefully this clarifies things for you.

[Xville]

To be clear on my lengthy observations on Paul IV, he is a Cincy guy and I am ALL Cincy all the time. Plus he played in my neighborhood.

I just don't understand this lack of progress narrative. He capped off his prep career at the PINNACLE..... OHIO POY, accompanied by setting ALL TIME Public School scoring records. I believe he is under consideration for Gatorade National Prep POY.

I wanted to see him suit up for X so badley, but I can only think he and family have long term considerations beyond BBall.

You Still seriously believe the crap of your last sentence? Talk about troll.

[Xuperman]

It’s not inside information jackass. It’s morants story… the reason he was not heavily recruited m is because he didn’t play the aau circuit much and when he did, it was on a team that had just started and not well known. This was discussed ad nauseum by the talking heads during the ovc conference tournament and during the ncaa tourney. Just because you had no clue, doesn’t mean I was wrong. The comparison to morant was effing stupid because McMillan was seen over and over during his prep career and during aau and the majors backed off of him after his sophomore year because they are smarter than you. Morants case was compeletely different because he wasn’t looked at much due to what I previously mentioned. I’m sorry you have such a comprehension and understanding issue, but hopefully this clarifies things for you.

I knew you would take the bait. You are a GRANITE STATUE OF JUST PLAIN.....stupid.

[Xuperman]

You Still seriously believe the crap of your last sentence? Talk about troll.

Yes.....I LOVE CINCINNATI!
:clap::clap:

[Xville]

I knew you would take the bait. You are a GRANITE STATUE OF JUST PLAIN.....stupid.

The bait of what genius? Thought you were going to let me have the last word… guess not?

Try to tell me again how I’m stupid, when i just schooled you yet again.. you and Lou have plenty in common.

Congrats on loving Cincinnati, as if that has anything to do with this. I guess the point is that you are blinded by your emotions and not actual objectivity

[paulxu]

As for new name, image and likeness opportunities, McMillan IV has an image that he wears around his neck "4PM."
"He will be getting paid a nice amount of money," McMillan III said of the college name, image and likeness opportunities.

Maybe Tony Soprano had a hand in the recruitment.

[XU_Lou]

The bait of what genius? Thought you were going to let me have the last word… guess not?

Try to tell me again how I’m stupid, when i just schooled you yet again.. you and Lou have plenty in common.

Congrats on loving Cincinnati, as if that has anything to do with this. I guess the point is that you are blinded by your emotions and not actual objectivity

LOL Ville!!!

So, I gotta ask, does your wife beat you? Are you unable to get an erection? Have you been castrated or emasculated in someway that makes you feel the need to come on this board to prove your manhood everyday?

I sincerely hope you get the help you need...

[Jumpin_Jamal_Forever]

I knew you would take the bait. You are a GRANITE STATUE OF JUST PLAIN.....stupid.

Some of these insults are pretty good. I'm writing them down to use at a later date. Sadly, I cannot absolutely guarantee proper attribution as the emotion of the moment, when used, may not permit it.

What is this argument about again?

[Xville]

LOL Ville!!!

So, I gotta ask, does your wife beat you? Are you unable to get an erection? Have you been castrated or emasculated in someway that makes you feel the need to come on this board to prove your manhood everyday?

I sincerely hope you get the help you need...

Says the guy who can’t seem to quit me and reads red state on the daily.

[XU_Lou]

Says the guy who can’t seem to quit me

Keep gaslighting buddy! Keep up the straw manning - you're doing an absolutely wonderful job at it!

[Xville]

Keep gaslighting buddy! Keep up the straw manning - you're doing an absolutely wonderful job at it!

Is gaslighting your favorite term for when proven wrong over and over? Do you have real thinking capabilities, or original thoughts or is regurgitating from links the way you live your life?

[Xuperman]

Some of these insults are pretty good. What is this argument about again?

Plain and simple.... EXPOSING 'Ville as a complete charlatan. Kinda in a WEIRD lazy way .....straight out of the Al Sharpton playbook....but on a fan Basketball site. He is toxic.

[Xuperman]

But honestly, for some time now, I wanted Paul IV to possibly be the next B Lark. You know....hometown legend suits up for X and becomes the next big thing.

[Xville]

Plain and simple.... EXPOSING 'Ville as a complete charlatan. Kinda in a WEIRD lazy way .....straight out of the Al Sharpton playbook....but on a fan Basketball site. He is toxic.

Toxic because I don’t have the love affair with McMillan that you have? Or the love affair that you had with Steele before the season began while the ones who actually know basketball told you how mediocre he was? Get a grip.

Sorry I don’t throw sunshine up peoples butts that don’t deserve it.

[Xuperman]

Toxic because I don’t have the love affair with McMillan that you have. Sorry I don’t throw sunshine up peoples butts that don’t deserve it.

Big deal. I like the kid because he grew up in MY neighborhood..... and ended up the ALL TIME CPS scoring leader.

[Xuperman]

Ooops.....his TROLL power is almost unavoidable...It's like the "Jedi Mind Trick"

[Xuperman]

I decided to edit some of my previous posts on this thread. I should be more respectful when posting in disagreement.

[Final4]

I have followed Paul IV for half a decade. He has done nothing but kick ass and take names the entire time.....not just in scoring but in any other meaningful metric.

Paul is a Cincy guy from my general neighborhood growing up. I am an everything Cincinnati guy.....just in case anyone wonders my extensive posts.

CPS basketball, as well as all large city Ohio Public School competition is far superior to any rural county competition. Since when does an Ohio HS POY (who happened to break all time records), not get High D1 interests?

It has to be personal/family aspirations for the future. Who knows, the guy may not want basketball to be his future.


I'm trying to follow your reasoning here......you maintain that Paul is a high major D1 talent. And now you're suggesting that the reason he didn't have any D1 offers essentially is because he doesn't want basketball to be his future after college. So when all the major D1 coaches came calling he made a point of telling them he didn't intend to play professionally after graduation and because of THAT they didn't offer?

[XUGRAD80]

I’ve kinda stayed out of this whole thread, although it’s been fun to watch from afar. I’ve really no opinion on either his abilities or his motives. I don’t see it as a huge loss for X, nor a major coup for NJIT. I’ve only an opinion on recruiting as a whole, as far as it is from a kid’s and his families point of view……

I don’t buy the idea that ALL of these kids really believe that they are going to be all Americans and high draft picks. I believe that 90% of them realize that the chances of that happening are really slim. Sure they all SAY that’s their goal and that they want a program that will help them get there, but I think a lot of that is merely lip service. I mean, what else are they going to say when asked? Would anyone really expect them to say that they choose a school because of its Biology department? So I take comments like “I want a school that will help get me to my goal of being in the pros.”, with a grain of salt. I believe that most of them realize that even if they can get a couple of years of playing in a foreign league after graduation, that they still need an education and a degree to fall back on after that is over. Like the general student population, there are going to be college athletes that thrive in college and there are going to be ones that fail. Some fail on the court and thrive in the classroom. For others it’s the complete opposite. I wonder how many of the kids in the transfer portal are there because of academic reasons? I’d bet that it’s more than a few.

One more point…..some kids jump early at an offer and take one that they regret later on. The Kiner kid from Roger Bacon comes to mind. Ohio player of the year (I believe he’s from the same area of the city as McMillian) who took an offer to LSU without ever visiting the school. Spent one year there, got good playing time as a freshman, but found he missed Cincinnati and transfers back to UC as soon as spring practice at LSU is over. McMillian played the waiting game. Perhaps some of the schools he might have been real interested in, and offers from, changed their minds after they signed others. Perhaps they changed their minds after seeing him play against some others. Perhaps HE changed his mind after visiting or watching them play. We may never know.

But as I said in an earlier post, freshman recruiting doesn’t mean near what it used to mean. With the new transfer rules a kid is really going to be recruited almost every year. He could go the NJIT for a year, have a great year, and be re-recruited by X or any other school all over again. I know that there are rules designed to stop this from happening, but it’s still going to happen. All it takes is a 3rd party contact, or an NIL offer. He’s really only been recruited to NJIT for ONE year. Who knows what happens after that?

[xavier513]

XUPERMAN, you called me "either terribly misinformed or totally ignorant regarding McMillan" when I told you a couple months ago that neither Xavier nor UC were actively recruiting McMillan, which was 100% accurate. Now that he has committed to NJIT, it looks like you are doubling down. You have proven to be misinformed and totally ignorant regarding this topic. Lets all move on and wish McMillan the best.

[XU 87]

Per 247Sports, McMillan had offers from Purdue, Kansas State, Ole Miss, and Penn State. I don't know if that's accurate, but that's what it says.

[Xville]

Per 247Sports, McMillan had offers from Purdue, Kansas State, Ole Miss, and Penn State. I don't know if that's accurate, but that's what it says.

Accurate except Penn state was made over a year ago and the rest were two years ago. Sophomore year he was heavily thought of… now not so much

[xuphan]

It’s not inside information jackass. It’s morants story… the reason he was not heavily recruited m is because he didn’t play the aau circuit much and when he did, it was on a team that had just started and not well known. This was discussed ad nauseum by the talking heads during the ovc conference tournament and during the ncaa tourney. Just because you had no clue, doesn’t mean I was wrong. The comparison to morant was effing stupid because McMillan was seen over and over during his prep career and during aau and the majors backed off of him after his sophomore year because they are smarter than you. Morants case was compeletely different because he wasn’t looked at much due to what I previously mentioned. I’m sorry you have such a comprehension and understanding issue, but hopefully this clarifies things for you.

Seems like the political thread has crept into the basketball thread.

[xu82]

Seems like the political thread has crept into the basketball thread.

We SERIOUSLY need some basketball.

[xuphan]

We SERIOUSLY need some basketball.

Amen brother!

[GIMMFD]

Accurate except Penn state was made over a year ago and the rest were two years ago. Sophomore year he was heavily thought of… now not so much

That and 247 tracks offers but you never know if they're "committable" offers, since recruits tweet out every single offer these days, it's good for brand building. Really don't know if he was a take at those schools as well. Though, probably at the time he was and the downward trajectory made them committable, but still something to keep in mind.

[noteggs]

Have we ever had a player who didn’t have a chance to commit (last two years) to have this many posts?

[XUMIOH12]

Have we ever had a player who didn’t have a chance to commit (last two years) to have this many posts?

no chance haha

[Final4]

NJIT lost at UC the other night. Paul McMillan went 1 for 6 with 3 T/O's in 15 minutes off the bench. Is shooting 16% for the year from 3.

[Xville]

NJIT lost at UC the other night. Paul McMillan went 1 for 6 with 3 T/O's in 15 minutes off the bench. Is shooting 16% for the year from 3.

Don't post facts like that...there are still some on this thread who believe he is a high D1 player.

[Xuperman]

Don't post facts like that...there are still some on this thread who believe he is a high D1 player.

I think just one. Way too early to walk out of this movie.

[X-band '01]

Don't post facts like that...there are still some on this thread who believe he is a high D1 player.

As long as he wasn't high in other ways.

[IM4X]

As long as he wasn't high in other ways.

That might explain his 1-6 shooting from three.

At least that’s the excuse I’d use.

[MADXSTER]

Paul McMillan or Hershey Miller? Who do you take to win you a game?