Travis Steele to ........ up the road to Oxford?

[xudash]

A little clip in the paper mentions Travis' name for consideration as the next men's basketball coach for Miami.

Get a nice ride and commute from Hyde Park!

[drudy23]

I'd be very surprised honestly. Yes, it's close proximity to where he is now, which is good for him and his family, but probably bad for landing a job. I'm guessing Miami knows better than most of the struggles he had at X, just because they're in the area.

I'd think most ADs would be very hesitant to put him in the head seat when he struggled right down the street in the head seat. Unless it's a very low level, I'd be very surprised if he gets a decent mid major or low major head coaching job for next year.

[paulxu]

I hope he lands a good job.
He may have moved out to Mason a while back from Hyde Park. Not sure.

[xukeith]

I hope he lands a good job.
He may have moved out to Mason a while back from Hyde Park. Not sure.

He wil land a head coaching job. Stella was not horrible. He just was not quite enough for X , being a top 30 program.
He will learn more and not have to agree too much at a lesser league school

[Final4]

I hope he lands a good job.
He may have moved out to Mason a while back from Hyde Park. Not sure.

No he's still living in Hyde Park.

[STL_XUfan]

I'd be very surprised honestly. Yes, it's close proximity to where he is now, which is good for him and his family, but probably bad for landing a job. I'm guessing Miami knows better than most of the struggles he had at X, just because they're in the area.

I'd think most ADs would be very hesitant to put him in the head seat when he struggled right down the street in the head seat. Unless it's a very low level, I'd be very surprised if he gets a decent mid major or low major head coaching job for next year.

I think Miami, and most schools in their shoes, would be thrilled to get Steele. Yeah, he wasn't up to X's standards, but then again we are a bit unreasonable (deservedly so). He still had his teams ranked most years, recruited at a high level, ran a clean program, but just choked down the stretch under the pressure of the Big East. Seems like a no brainer to take that risk at a school like Miami, especially given his age.

[bleedXblue]

That place is a grave yard

They missed their chance to exploit their success in the 90's with Harper first and then Wally

Good luck to him if he goes there

They still play in that shit hole Millet I think

[GoMuskies]

That will make it super exciting when we start playing our biggest rivals home and home again.

[xudash]

That place is a grave yard

They missed their chance to exploit their success in the 90's with Harper first and then Wally

Good luck to him if he goes there

They still play in that shit hole Millet I think

Built in 1968. One year before VD opened the Dump. The problem for both schools is that was a time of orange shag carpeting and Laugh-In on television - psychedelic and crappy architecture where putting "lipstick on a pig" could not be more accurate.

[Smails]

That place is a grave yard

They missed their chance to exploit their success in the 90's with Harper first and then Wally

Good luck to him if he goes there

They still play in that shit hole Millet I think

As much as everyone loved Charlie Coles, Miami hung on to him for waaay too long IMO. Goes to the S16 and then doesn't finish higher than 4th in the MAC for the next 3 years. They went with the 'safe' pick after Sendek bolted and have never recovered.

[Xville]

I think Miami, and most schools in their shoes, would be thrilled to get Steele. Yeah, he wasn't up to X's standards, but then again we are a bit unreasonable (deservedly so). He still had his teams ranked most years, recruited at a high level, ran a clean program, but just choked down the stretch under the pressure of the Big East. Seems like a no brainer to take that risk at a school like Miami, especially given his age.

As a recruiting assistant I agree...but as a head coach? the guy was a disaster and has zero system, and is rumored to not listen to people who are far more knowledgeable in the game than in analytic bs. He needs to go to X and O school before anyone should ever consider him for the big chair

[Lloyd Braun]

How about an assistant at IU? Lots of ties there…

[JTG]

Miami might be perfect. Low stress, very modest expectations. Have a couple decent years, playing against MAC schools would be a picnic, compared to his last 4 years. Sounds like a perfect job for someone to spend a couple years getting his career turned around.

[MHettel]

Steele CAN recruit. If he can get some quality players at Miami, he could do some damage.

[X Factor]

Built in 1968. One year before VD opened the Dump. The problem for both schools is that was a time of orange shag carpeting and Laugh-In on television - psychedelic and crappy architecture where putting "lipstick on a pig" could not be more accurate.

UD has actually done some big upgrades to UD Arena. They finally have a real scoreboard.

[xudash]

UD has actually done some big upgrades to UD Arena. They finally have a real scoreboard.

It still looks like something that was built in the 60’s. The crappy seating and classless fans remain the same.

[Xavier]

As a recruiting assistant I agree...but as a head coach? the guy was a disaster and has zero system, and is rumored to not listen to people who are far more knowledgeable in the game than in analytic bs. He needs to go to X and O school before anyone should ever consider him for the big chair

Meh. I think he can out recruit most in a mid major conference. That doesn’t guarantee success but it’s a major part. In the Big East- everyone has talent. Coaching and player development is much bigger part. I’m glad we are moving on, but over the course of 4 years Steele was about 6 games total from making the tournament each year. I think he’d fit in well at a mid major.

[xu82]

I’m not talking basketball or program potential, but that’s a lovely campus. I didn’t appreciate it as a 20 year old, but went back about 15 years ago and really appreciated it.

Travis will find a nice landing spot, but the BE was a bit over his head the last few years. I hope he learns from that experience and grows from it. I wish him all the best!

[GoMuskies]

The problem with Miami University is the fact that all of its buildings are full of Miami University students. That's a deal killer for me.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Selling Miami to a recruit shouldn't be hard. Don't even talk about basketball just talk about the hot ass chicks. Of course if that worked then Bobby Hurley would be ranked #1 every year

[UCGRAD4X]

If you look at the Tin Man's record outside of the Big East, it would be pretty attractive to the MAC.

[noteggs]

I’m not talking basketball or program potential, but that’s a lovely campus. I didn’t appreciate it as a 20 year old, but went back about 15 years ago and really appreciated it.

Travis will find a nice landing spot, but the BE was a bit over his head the last few years. I hope he learns from that experience and grows from it. I wish him all the best!

Miami does have a gorgeous campus. My youngest is a sophomore there. Only problem with coaching basketball there is competing with hockey. Goggin ice center is top notch and located near the dorms. Also, Miami has a pretty reputation on being good in hockey. Millett is a dump and is on the far end of campus.

[boozehound]

I think Steele to Miami could be a great move for both parties, especially is Travis wants to stay in the area. Their conference is much easier than ours and their standards are lower. It could be a good place for him to re-tool his approach and learn on the job a bit without having to grind it out in the Big East.

[Lloyd Braun]

If you look at the Tin Man's record outside of the Big East, it would be pretty attractive to the MAC.

I’m not sure that is a result specific to conference but rather repetition. Once opposition has enough tape the team it was not tough to game plan for. Pack the paint and let them jack threes, right? The problem was there was not an adjustment after that so the conference opponent that is familiar with the opposition had an advantage. We saw this every year didn’t we? I’m not sure that changes in another conference. There are still many very good coaches in the MAC.

[IM4X]

Miami does have a gorgeous campus. My youngest is a sophomore there. Only problem with coaching basketball there is competing with hockey. Goggin ice center is top notch and located near the dorms. Also, Miami has a pretty reputation on being good in hockey. Millett is a dump and is on the far end of campus.

Ah Yes, Miami. A beautiful campus and some bittersweet memories .

I remember back when I was going to X, some buddies and I decided to go party there one weekend night. We figured we’d somehow find a place to crash there and drive back the next day. We went around to a handful of different fraternities telling them we were from the same house at X. It was awesome. They had no clue X didn’t have fraternities. We were invited in with open arms and the beer never stopped flowing for us.

At the last party, my friends and I got separated for a bit as we started mingling. I started talking to a very attractive female from Miami. For the next hour, we were laughing and flirting. I could tell she was into me. I started thinking, ”This is going to be one of the most incredible endings to an already awesome evening.”

I told her that my friends and I we’re there for the night, but we had no place to stay. She said I could stay with her and my friends could crash on the floor downstairs at her place. She then grabbed my hand and I was moving in to kiss her when I heard a familiar voice saying, “Michelle! Is that you?” The female I was with looked up. I turned around and standing there was my buddy James. The girl I was with then responded, “Oh my gosh. No way. James? What are you doing here?”

Yep. My buddy went to high school with this girl and they were good friends. I was thinking, “You gotta be kidding me.” The one female I make a move on and am about to get lucky with ends up being the one person my buddy knows on the entire Miami campus. That was it. Those two ended up talking about old times the rest of the night and I was left sipping my cheep fraternity beer, smiling and pretending like I was actually so amazed with this incredible coincidence and not pissed that the girl I was about to hook up with was now going to be yakking it up with my friend til the wee hours of the night. Til this day I greet my friend James with “FU(|< U for Miami… and how are you doing?”

[xu82]

Miami does have a gorgeous campus. My youngest is a sophomore there. Only problem with coaching basketball there is competing with hockey. Goggin ice center is top notch and located near the dorms. Also, Miami has a pretty reputation on being good in hockey. Millett is a dump and is on the far end of campus.

Congratulations for seemingly being so close to the end of the tuition train ride! There was some rejoicing yesterday when I drove to Emory to pick up my youngest’s garb for graduation for his MBA, his second Masters. Pretty sure we are done now….. almost 100% certain. But I’ve been punched in the gut before!

[xu82]

Ah Yes, Miami. A beautiful campus and some bittersweet memories .

I remember back when I was going to X, some buddies and I decided to go party there one weekend night. We figured we’d somehow find a place to crash there and drive back the next day. We went around to a handful of different fraternities telling them we were from the same house at X. It was awesome. They had no clue X didn’t have fraternities. We were invited in with open arms and the beer never stopped flowing for us.

At the last party, my friends and I got separated for a bit as we started mingling. I started talking to a very attractive female from Miami. For the next hour, we were laughing and flirting. I could tell she was into me. I started thinking, ”This is going to be one of the most incredible endings to an already awesome evening.”

I told her that my friends and I we’re there for the night, but we had no place to stay. She said I could stay with her and my friends could crash on the floor downstairs at her place. She then grabbed my hand and I was moving in to kiss her when I heard a familiar voice saying, “Michelle! Is that you?” The female I was with looked up. I turned around and standing there was my buddy James. The girl I was with then responded, “Oh my gosh. No way. James? What are you doing here?”

Yep. My buddy went to high school with this girl and they were good friends. I was thinking, “You gotta be kidding me.” The one female I make a move on and am about to get lucky with ends up being the one person my buddy knows on the entire Miami campus. That was it. Those two ended up talking about old times the rest of the night and I was left sipping my cheep fraternity beer, smiling and pretending like I was actually so amazed with this incredible coincidence and not pissed that the girl I was about to hook up with was now going to be yakking it up with my friend til the wee hours of the night. Til this day I greet my friend James with “FU(|< U for Miami… and how are you doing?”

I like to look at those memories this way: he saved you from the clap or your first child. Life works out as it is meant to.

[xudash]

Ah Yes, Miami. A beautiful campus and some bittersweet memories .

I remember back when I was going to X, some buddies and I decided to go party there one weekend night. We figured we’d somehow find a place to crash there and drive back the next day. We went around to a handful of different fraternities telling them we were from the same house at X. It was awesome. They had no clue X didn’t have fraternities. We were invited in with open arms and the beer never stopped flowing for us.

At the last party, my friends and I got separated for a bit as we started mingling. I started talking to a very attractive female from Miami. For the next hour, we were laughing and flirting. I could tell she was into me. I started thinking, ”This is going to be one of the most incredible endings to an already awesome evening.”

I told her that my friends and I we’re there for the night, but we had no place to stay. She said I could stay with her and my friends could crash on the floor downstairs at her place. She then grabbed my hand and I was moving in to kiss her when I heard a familiar voice saying, “Michelle! Is that you?” The female I was with looked up. I turned around and standing there was my buddy James. The girl I was with then responded, “Oh my gosh. No way. James? What are you doing here?”

Yep. My buddy went to high school with this girl and they were good friends. I was thinking, “You gotta be kidding me.” The one female I make a move on and am about to get lucky with ends up being the one person my buddy knows on the entire Miami campus. That was it. Those two ended up talking about old times the rest of the night and I was left sipping my cheep fraternity beer, smiling and pretending like I was actually so amazed with this incredible coincidence and not pissed that the girl I was about to hook up with was now going to be yakking it up with my friend til the wee hours of the night. Til this day I greet my friend James with “FU(|< U for Miami… and how are you doing?”

This may be one of the best and saddest undergrad stories I've ever read. Firstly, my sincere apologies for your friend wrecking your evening.

Secondly, how dense does a Miami frat brother have to be to believe that a Jesuit school would have Greek houses on campus.

This is almost Animal House level funny.

[xu82]

This may be one of the best and saddest undergrad stories I've ever read. Firstly, my sincere apologies for your friend wrecking your evening.

Secondly, how dense does a Miami frat brother have to be to believe that a Jesuit school would have Greek houses on campus.

This is almost Animal House level funny.

I lived at THE Animal House AT Xavier during the cinematic Animal House years! We were a mighty fine imitation! I should be XU81, and I blame that place…..

[IM4X]

I like to look at those memories this way: he saved you from the clap or your first child. Life works out as it is meant to.

Ha. She was a “good girl” type in HS (according to my friend) so I doubt I’d have to worry about the clap. Besides, I was probably drank too much to do more than just fool around a bit anyway (if you know what I mean). I’m not really angry with him (anymore). I just couldn’t believe the ridiculous bad luck. I am so happy to have the wife and kids I do. I truly am blessed. It’s just one of those “What are the odds” kind of moments in life.

[IM4X]

This may be one of the best and saddest undergrad stories I've ever read. Firstly, my sincere apologies for your friend wrecking your evening.

Secondly, how dense does a Miami frat brother have to be to believe that a Jesuit school would have Greek houses on campus.

This is almost Animal House level funny.

Thanks for feeling my pain. It was absolutely one of those, “you can’t make this shit up if you tried” stories.

I don’t know why, but no one even thought twice to question us about Xavier. Honestly, I don’t think many of those frat guys paid attention to Greek life outside of their own campus. Part of it might also have been that we walked up to each house with such confidence. We’d be walking and when we’d come across a frat house that looked like it had a good party going on inside, we walk up and say, “Oh shit, Sigma Alpha Epsilon! (or what ever frat house it was). We’re Sigma Alpha Epsilon!” They’d be like, “No shit?” We’d be like, “No shit. We’ve been looking for your house. Someone told us you guys were down this way.” They’d be like, “We’ll come on in… the kegs are in the back.” We’d head right to the back, pour ourselves a beer and see if there were any hot women. If there were attractive females at the party, we’d stay and mingle. If it was a “dude ranch” (barely any women), we’d finish our beer and move on to the next house. It was awesome.

I don’t think we mentioned Xavier ever time, but when we did (I guess we did it with a bit of an attitude) they’d just reply “that’s really cool”. They always seemed more interested in impressing us - trying to make us feel like their house was the cool place to be.

It was a wild night. Funny that you brought up Animal House. We were joking that evening about how it felt like we were in that movie. It was a completely surreal experience.

[Smooth]

Thanks for feeling my pain. It was absolutely one of those, “you can’t make this shit up if you tried” stories.

I don’t know why, but no one even thought twice to question us about Xavier. Honestly, I don’t think many of those frat guys paid attention to Greek life outside of their own campus. Part of it might also have been that we walked up to each house with such confidence. We’d be walking and when we’d come across a frat house that looked like it had a good party going on inside, we walk up and say, “Oh shit, Sigma Alpha Epsilon! (or what ever frat house it was). We’re Sigma Alpha Epsilon!” They’d be like, “No shit?” We’d be like, “No shit. We’ve been looking for your house. Someone told us you guys were down this way.” They’d be like, “We’ll come on in… the kegs are in the back.” We’d head right to the back, pour ourselves a beer and see if there were any hot women. If there were attractive females at the party, we’d stay and mingle. If it was a “dude ranch” (barely any women), we’d finish our beer and move on to the next house. It was awesome.

I don’t think we mentioned Xavier ever time, but when we did (I guess we did it with a bit of an attitude) they’d just reply “that’s really cool”. They always seemed more interested in impressing us - trying to make us feel like their house was the cool place to be.

It was a wild night. Funny that you brought up Animal House. We were joking that evening about how it felt like we were in that movie. It was a completely surreal experience.

I also made a couple of trips to Miami during my Freshman Xavier year to party and try to hook up with hot chicks. On one trip we came back on Friday night (obviously unsuccessful) but a couple of friends got left behind. I don't remember where they spent the night or what they did during the day but they went to several parties Saturday night and got thoroughly trashed. Then they stole a couple of bikes and tried to ride back to X. The reason the bikes weren't locked up is because they were pieces of crap so they ditched them shortly after they left campus. They somehow had a cop give them a ride to Millville. There they went to a gas station and got a box and marker and made a sign so they could hitch the rest of the way. As it turned out, one of the guys also stole a fraternity hat. Some guy driving by who was or used to be in that fraternity saw the hat and drove them back to Xavier.

When everyone got up on Sunday morning and found out these guys were back and in their beds sleeping we woke them up just to hear their stories. They weren't happy about being woke up or being left at Miami but they had a hell of a story.

[nuts4xu]

Travis Steele would then have to coach and recruit against his younger half brother John Groce, who is the HC at Akron. This would be convenient for Mom. It isn't like Travis needs the money either, he just received a check for $2.7 million from Xavier and his in laws are flush with cash. Miami is a shit job, with terrible facilities. I honestly think Steele can do better than that. He doesn't have to jump at the first opportunity.

[MHettel]

Travis Steele would then have to coach and recruit against his younger half brother John Groce, who is the HC at Akron.

older brother

[nuts4xu]

older brother

Forget it...I am on a roll.

[Masterofreality]

Steele ought to go back home to Butler.
That would guarantee 2-3 Xavier wins per year……
And Butler going back to the A10.

[Final4]

Steele ought to go back home to Butler.
That would guarantee 2-3 Xavier wins per year……
And Butler going back to the A10.

Do you get some kind of perverse pleasure from kicking someone when they’re down?

[Masterofreality]

Do you get some kind of perverse pleasure from kicking someone when they’re down?

Of course that was a joke, but Butler, where Steele graduated from, is a mess.
Do you get some kind of perverse pleasure in posting on here whenever I (and no one else) posts something about ya boi Travis Steele?
I hope he goes somewhere else, learns how to listen, delegate and become a successful Head Coach with his buyout money.
You can just take your L and admit that a lot of us were correct…for a few years.

[xuwin]

Travis Steele would then have to coach and recruit against his younger half brother John Groce, who is the HC at Akron. This would be convenient for Mom. It isn't like Travis needs the money either, he just received a check for $2.7 million from Xavier and his in laws are flush with cash. Miami is a shit job, with terrible facilities. I honestly think Steele can do better than that. He doesn't have to jump at the first opportunity.

I think Travis would be better off getting a high level assistants job than a head coaching job at a low level MAC school. Recruiting top players to Miami would be extremely difficult.

[IM4X]

I also made a couple of trips to Miami during my Freshman Xavier year to party and try to hook up with hot chicks. On one trip we came back on Friday night (obviously unsuccessful) but a couple of friends got left behind. I don't remember where they spent the night or what they did during the day but they went to several parties Saturday night and got thoroughly trashed. Then they stole a couple of bikes and tried to ride back to X. The reason the bikes weren't locked up is because they were pieces of crap so they ditched them shortly after they left campus. They somehow had a cop give them a ride to Millville. There they went to a gas station and got a box and marker and made a sign so they could hitch the rest of the way. As it turned out, one of the guys also stole a fraternity hat. Some guy driving by who was or used to be in that fraternity saw the hat and drove them back to Xavier.

When everyone got up on Sunday morning and found out these guys were back and in their beds sleeping we woke them up just to hear their stories. They weren't happy about being woke up or being left at Miami but they had a hell of a story.

You know it’s gotta be a wild story when it involves a few stolen bikes, a stolen frat hat, a couple of desperate college students being picked up by the cops and later luckily hitching a ride back to their school only because a passing driver saw the stolen hat that displayed the fraternity name he had been apart of.

[bleedXblue]

There are a lot of people that think Travis will become a good head coach in the future. I do think its an interesting perspective. Crazy as hell, but interesting.

[bjf123]

There are a lot of people that think Travis will become a good head coach in the future. I do think its an interesting perspective. Crazy as hell, but interesting.

All depends on how much he learned as the head coach at X and how he adapts to his apparent shortcomings.


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[Final4]

Of course that was a joke, but Butler, where Steele graduated from, is a mess.
Do you get some kind of perverse pleasure in posting on here whenever I (and no one else) posts something about ya boi Travis Steele?
I hope he goes somewhere else, learns how to listen, delegate and become a successful Head Coach with his buyout money.
You can just take your L and admit that a lot of us were correct…for a few years.

Well I think you would be hard pressed to find where I endorsed Steele so to suggest that he was my “boi” is a bit misplaced. Nevertheless, congratulations on being “correct…..for a few years” as I recognize that acknowledgement on this board is vitally important to your (seemingly fragile) ego. Travis spent 13 years at Xavier and I’m certain this is a very difficult time for him and his family. He’s no longer here. He’s no longer our coach. But you want to continue to bring his name up and callously deride for what I can only guess is simply self-grandiosity. He didn’t achieve. He wasn’t successful. Why do you insist on kicking the guy when he’s down? Why make jokes at someone else’s expense?

[Xville]

There are a lot of people that think Travis will become a good head coach in the future. I do think its an interesting perspective. Crazy as hell, but interesting.

Agreed. How can anyone listen to any of his press conferences and think this guy understands the game enough to be a good head coach? I mean for ffs earlier in the year he said hunter was a good shooter

[xu82]

Some people are just very good #2’s, and not ready or just plain not a fit for the top job. You see it all the time in the NFL with coordinators. Travis contributed here for may years and had a positive impact, especially regarding recruiting.

He didn’t get it done in the top job, and we have moved on. I’m not going to bash him while he’s down, but rather thank him for his efforts and contributions. I’m too excited about the future to spend a lot of energy looking backwards.

[boozehound]

Agreed. How can anyone listen to any of his press conferences and think this guy understands the game enough to be a good head coach? I mean for ffs earlier in the year he said hunter was a good shooter

He was evidently a good enough assistant for many years to get a pretty strong recommendation / endorsement for the head job and is probably 1-2 wins a year away from likely still being the head coach at a major program. I'm going to assume he gets another shot, and is very likely successful somewhere else. The transition to Xavier was just a little too tough. I think we are all overstating a bit how 'terrible' Travis is as a head coach. I think it's a combination of some players just not having 'it' and Steele sticking with them way too long. If we can accurately assess where things went wrong at Xavier and correct them I could see him having a good career somewhere.

Regarding Miami: I don't think it's a great job, but it could be a good job if he wants to stay in Cincinnati. Expectations seem to be pretty low, even if the facilities suck. You can coach there for a long time without being particularly good. If he is willing to relocate I think he can probably do better.

[Masterofreality]

Well I think you would be hard pressed to find where I endorsed Steele so to suggest that he was my “boi” is a bit misplaced. Nevertheless, congratulations on being “correct…..for a few years” as I recognize that acknowledgement on this board is vitally important to your (seemingly fragile) ego. Travis spent 13 years at Xavier and I’m certain this is a very difficult time for him and his family. He’s no longer here. He’s no longer our coach. But you want to continue to bring his name up and callously deride for what I can only guess is simply self-grandiosity. He didn’t achieve. He wasn’t successful. Why do you insist on kicking the guy when he’s down? Why make jokes at someone else’s expense?

Steele is gone, and hopefully now you can be too.
Enjoy cheering for your icon elsewhere. Zero NCAA’s.
#Final4Years

[XUGRAD80]

Per Twitter it’s a done deal….Steele is the new head coach at Miami U. I wish him luck and hope that he does well.

[GoMuskies]

Wow. Good luck to the Redhawks.

[Smails]

https://twitter.com/MiamiOH_BBall/status/1509609273763893289

[xudash]

Good luck Travis.

Just popped in on Facebook.

[Final4]

Steele is gone, and hopefully now you can be too.
Enjoy cheering for your icon elsewhere. Zero NCAA’s.
#Final4Years

And there you go again……”Zero NCAA’s”…….you just can’t help yourself. I suspect quite a few on this board are Jesuit educated. To some, Men for Others, are letters painted on a wall or words printed on a T-shift; to others, it’s a guiding principle. I’m certainly not the morality police…….far from it. But jeez are you completely void of compassion? The guy lost his freaking job. And please don’t respond. Every time you do you dig your hole a little deeper.

[muskieindent]

Good for Travis.Plus he won't have to uproot his family.

[bjf123]

Good for Travis.Plus he won't have to uproot his family.

Agreed. I wish him nothing but the best.


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[Masterofreality]

And there you go again……”Zero NCAA’s”…….you just can’t help yourself. I suspect quite a few on this board are Jesuit educated. To some, Men for Others, are letters painted on a wall or words printed on a T-shift; to others, it’s a guiding principle. I’m certainly not the morality police…….far from it. But jeez are you completely void of compassion? The guy lost his freaking job. And please don’t respond. Every time you do you dig your hole a little deeper.

Congratulations to Travis Steele. Hope he learns and grows.
Have a good time driving to Oxford to see ya boi Coach, Final4.
#Fini

[xu82]

Very happy that Travis has landed a new HC gig so quickly. Live and learn and grow. Life will be different outside of the BE.

[Xville]

wow outside of the covid year, the last time miami had a winning season was 08-09. I didn't realize their level of suckitude.

I guess they will be thrilled with medicore.

[American X]

Thoughts and prayers for the Steele family.

[KabeX]

Wow that's great for Travis (I think). And it makes me and prob a lot you feel better about the whole situation. Kinda like the girl in college that you just weren't that into (someone used the term "recreational vehicle" but it wasn't me of course) finds someone else and you're off the hook. Wow that was a bad analogy. Anyway, I feel good for Trav though. Good guy and I hope he kills it in Oxford.

[GoMuskies]

Steele got almost $3 million to do nothing. No one felt bad about how things turned out for Travis. At least no one should have.

[nuts4xu]

Why do you insist on kicking the guy when he’s down? Why make jokes at someone else’s expense?

For what it's worth, this is a Travis Steele thread. Did you expect straight posts, without humor or sarcastic comments at his expense? I mean that is kind of what happens on this message board.

Guy was in over his head as the head coach at Xavier. I appreciate the many years he gave to his university. Miami is a shit job but good for him. He can now fulfill his dream of coaching an entire roster filled with Jason Carter-like MAC players.

[paulxu]

Coach K had zero NCAA wins or a winning conference record in his first 4 years at Duke...and he had been a head coach at Army!

36% winning percentage in conference first 4 years. Our last coach had 46% in first 4 years.

K must have really sucked back then. Guess they gave him time to learn and grow, even though a former head coach. Seems to have paid off.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Coach K had zero NCAA wins or a winning conference record in his first 4 years at Duke...and he had been a head coach at Army!

36% winning percentage in conference first 4 years. Our last coach had 46% in first 4 years.

K must have really sucked back then. Guess they gave him time to learn and grow, even though a former head coach. Seems to have paid off.

Ugh.....for every Coach K (there is only 1) there are hundreds of Tavis Steele's. Time and opportunity and patience were not Steele's problems, his coaching ability was.

[paulxu]

Ugh.....for every Coach K (there is only 1)

I agree wholeheartedly with that. But...would you have said the same thing at the end of his first 4 years at Duke?

You might have said "Ugh...for every coach Wooden (there is only 1) there are hundreds of Mike Krzyzewski's. Time and opportunity and patience were not K's problems, his coaching ability was." Why wouldn't you...he did worse, demonstrably worse than Steele.

I support the school's decisions and look to the future, as I have for well over 50 years. But I don't pretend to be a better coach than those who are paid to do it. Leave that to the AD and President to figure out, and they have spoken. Will do the same for round 2 of Sean Miller. Exciting times ahead.

[X Factor]

Coach K won 24 games in his 4th year and made the NCAA Tournament.

[Xville]

I agree wholeheartedly with that. But...would you have said the same thing at the end of his first 4 years at Duke?

You might have said "Ugh...for every coach Wooden (there is only 1) there are hundreds of Mike Krzyzewski's. Time and opportunity and patience were not K's problems, his coaching ability was." Why wouldn't you...he did worse, demonstrably worse than Steele.

I support the school's decisions and look to the future, as I have for well over 50 years. But I don't pretend to be a better coach than those who are paid to do it. Leave that to the AD and President to figure out, and they have spoken. Will do the same for round 2 of Sean Miller. Exciting times ahead.

I may not “coach” as well as Steele, but I sure as hell could manage a roster and lineup better than him

[drudy23]

I agree wholeheartedly with that. But...would you have said the same thing at the end of his first 4 years at Duke?

You might have said "Ugh...for every coach Wooden (there is only 1) there are hundreds of Mike Krzyzewski's. Time and opportunity and patience were not K's problems, his coaching ability was." Why wouldn't you...he did worse, demonstrably worse than Steele.

I support the school's decisions and look to the future, as I have for well over 50 years. But I don't pretend to be a better coach than those who are paid to do it. Leave that to the AD and President to figure out, and they have spoken. Will do the same for round 2 of Sean Miller. Exciting times ahead.

Duke was not the power they are before K got there. This is not an apples to apples comparison.

Steele had plenty of ammunition when he started and more than plenty the past 2 years. He's not a victim.

He didn't perform. He got fired. It was the right call.

[X-band '01]

So are Mother Miami hoodies going to be available for tomorrow?

[American X]

Well I think you would be hard pressed to find where I endorsed Steele so to suggest that he was my “boi” is a bit misplaced. Nevertheless, congratulations on being “correct…..for a few years” as I recognize that acknowledgement on this board is vitally important to your (seemingly fragile) ego. Travis spent 13 years at Xavier and I’m certain this is a very difficult time for him and his family. He’s no longer here. He’s no longer our coach. But you want to continue to bring his name up and callously deride for what I can only guess is simply self-grandiosity. He didn’t achieve. He wasn’t successful. Why do you insist on kicking the guy when he’s down? Why make jokes at someone else’s expense?

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[paulxu]

Duke was not the power they are before K got there. This is not an apples to apples comparison.

Steele had plenty of ammunition when he started and more than plenty the past 2 years. He's not a victim.

He didn't perform. He got fired. It was the right call.

I'm not saying it wasn't a correct call. That's not a call a "fan" should make. It's a university call.
He didn't perform to the standards the fans (and obviously the university) expected.

As to Duke, 2years before K started, they played for the National Championship.
So you're correct. Apples to oranges...but just maybe not the way you think.

[LadyMuskie]

I'm not saying it wasn't a correct call. That's not a call a "fan" should make. It's a university call.
He didn't perform to the standards the fans (and obviously the university) expected.

As to Duke, 2years before K started, they played for the National Championship.
So you're correct. Apples to oranges...but just maybe not the way you think.

You know I love ya, Paul, but the landscape of college basketball today and in Coach K's 4th year are pretty different. Schools literally cannot afford to wait for a coach to learn on the job over 6 or 7 years. The message from the lack of the crowd at the first NIT game was very clear: the money is going to dry up unless you get rid of Steele. And that message from the fans and boosters was completely fair. Steele was in over his head as head coach at X. I'm happy he found a new job. I'm happier he's no longer coaching here.

[paulxu]

Just trying to keep things in perspective.

By the way...Welcome Back !

[GoMuskies]

Coach K had zero NCAA wins or a winning conference record in his first 4 years at Duke...and he had been a head coach at Army!

36% winning percentage in conference first 4 years. Our last coach had 46% in first 4 years.

K must have really sucked back then. Guess they gave him time to learn and grow, even though a former head coach. Seems to have paid off.

Good lord

[CP05XU08CU13]

Good for Steele. I hope he does well. The MAC is not nearly as tough or competitive as the Big East so that may help Steele grow as a head coach and rebuild his confidence. The fact that Xavier played some of their best basketball under an interim coach in the NIT only further validates Xavier’s decision to go in a different direction and fire Steele. Travis was in over his head and had a hard time keeping the players motivated as the season progressed. That goes for all four seasons he was at the helm. It was a consistent theme during his tenure. Again, I hope he does well at Miami and finds a recipe that works. Total side note, but I did not realize Steele is brothers with John Groce. I read that in an article today about Steele. The different last names confused me. At least now he will get to play against his brother that currently coaches the University of Akron on an annual basis.

[xu82]

You know I love ya, Paul, but the landscape of college basketball today and in Coach K's 4th year are pretty different. Schools literally cannot afford to wait for a coach to learn on the job over 6 or 7 years. The message from the lack of the crowd at the first NIT game was very clear: the money is going to dry up unless you get rid of Steele. And that message from the fans and boosters was completely fair. Steele was in over his head as head coach at X. I'm happy he found a new job. I'm happier he's no longer coaching here.

Again, glad to see you back and………….YES!

[IM4X]

Best to Steele. I wish him well. He is a very nice and classy guy and a very good recruiter. I don’t know if I would go so far to say he was in over his head as much as I feel he had blinders on and was too bought into his approach to realize that was a big part of what was not working.

I hope he learns that he needs to be open to different approaches. There was a little insanity (trying the same thing again and again and expecting different results). He would be wise to watch every elite coach in the land having success and steal from them. He would be wise to rewatch his press conferences and be brutally honest with himself about how he dismissed comments or criticisms that had he embraced may have made him a more successful head coach at X.

I guess what I am saying is that I believe Steele does have the potential to be a pretty good coach head coach if he could just be a bit more of a perfectionist with details in areas he ans his team are struggling. If everyone tells you you have a tail, at some point you have to turn around and look. He just never did. He now has another chance to get it right I hope he does at Miami.

[sirthought]

Wow. Didn't expect him to take a crummy job like Miami. Almost any other MAC school would be better. More power to him if he can turn it around there.

I figured after all his years in the trenches he'd go somewhere warmer, with nicer climate all around. Even if it was an assistant job or head coach at a smaller school, just to get out of the market where you were under the microscope until you were fired. And that commute to Oxford will be brutal.

Well he's got it made for a few more years. He'll still be the boss. Still have the same recruiting grounds. And less pressure! Best of luck.

[X-band '01]

In a way, he is out of the market. Miami gets less coverage than NKU these days.

[boozehound]

I assume him taking this job essentially says that he doesn't want to leave Cincinnati, and is content to kind of just 'pack it in' and hang out up in Oxford. Otherwise taking an assistant job somewhere better may have been a smarter move.

[UCGRAD4X]

I assume him taking this job essentially says that he doesn't want to leave Cincinnati, and is content to kind of just 'pack it in' and hang out up in Oxford. Otherwise taking an assistant job somewhere better may have been a smarter move.

Maybe he didn't want to move unless he got a real coaching gig. This was he gets to stay close to home, sharpen his skills against competition he can handle, recruit some decent players to be successful in the MAC and move when it is worth it (or takes a lateral move to the borecats).

[Muskie]

I'm not surprised. He's lived in either Indiana or Ohio most of his life. He wanted to coach again, found a job in that geographic area, probably won't have to move from Cincy full time, and expectations will be lower. I hope that Travis reflects on what didn't work for him and adapts. There is still plenty of time for a great career in basketball. It didn't work out here. But that doesn't mean it won't work for him somewhere else.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Ron Harper is not happy with the Travis Steele hire!

[X-band '01]

Guess we're talking Senior and not Junior.

[xukeith]

I'm not surprised. He's lived in either Indiana or Ohio most of his life. He wanted to coach again, found a job in that geographic area, probably won't have to move from Cincy full time, and expectations will be lower. I hope that Travis reflects on what didn't work for him and adapts. There is still plenty of time for a great career in basketball. It didn't work out here. But that doesn't mean it won't work for him somewhere else.

That begins a long commute to work. Over under on number of speeding tickets he gets between now and August is 2.5.

[XUOWNSUC]

Ron Harper is not happy with the Travis Steele hire!

F Ron Harper - I hope Travis proves him wrong!

[XUBison]

F Ron Harper - I hope Travis proves him wrong!

I can’t believe Ron still cares. Good for him.

[Final4]

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Miami Head Coach Travis Steele is introducing a new system called “The RedHawk Way”, and whoever earns the most “RedHawk points” in practice will start, regardless of their position.

“If it’s all guards, so be it. Practice, to me, is more valuable than the actual games”

[xuphan]

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Miami Head Coach Travis Steele is introducing a new system called “The RedHawk Way”, and whoever earns the most “RedHawk points” in practice will start, regardless of their position.

“If it’s all guards, so be it. Practice, to me, is more valuable than the actual games”

Please tell me this isn’t true. Sadly though, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was true.

[Smails]

Please tell me this isn’t true. Sadly though, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was true.

LOL...Markus Walters is undefeated

[xavierj]

LOL...Markus Walters is undefeated

Yeah guy is really tied in… broke the story when Xavier left Jason Carter in the bathroom when they were headed to butler… he knows what he is taking about

[noteggs]

Yeah guy is really tied in… broke the story when Xavier left Jason Carter in the bathroom when they were headed to butler… he knows what he is taking about

Yes, I can confirm

Per source

[STL_XUfan]

His sources are so inside that they are actually outside.

[xudash]

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Miami Head Coach Travis Steele is introducing a new system called “The RedHawk Way”, and whoever earns the most “RedHawk points” in practice will start, regardless of their position.

“If it’s all guards, so be it. Practice, to me, is more valuable than the actual games”

I guess they certainly would be more valuable if your ultimate objective is to coach in the MAC.

[JTG]

Those who ignore history are destined to repeat it.

[X-band '01]

So does this also come with a gold jersey every week?

[Muskie]

So does this also come with a gold jersey every week?

It'll be a metallic red jersey? Like Garnett.

[GIMMFD]

Wait this isn't satire?? That had to be a satirical tweet right??

[drudy23]

Wait this isn't satire?? That had to be a satirical tweet right??

It is.

Markus Walters is notorious for satire.

In saying that, I wouldn't be surprised if he implemented the stupid practice points. Coaches do what they do - they don't change much.

[Masterofreality]

It is.

Markus Walters is notorious for satire.

In saying that, I wouldn't be surprised if he implemented the stupid practice points. Coaches do what they do - they don't change much.

Markus Walters is unreal.
And by that I mean he is UN real…as in a fake human being.
“Markus” is the work of the mysterious Captain X and/or his crew.
But he does “break stories” that Adam Baum could never touch!

[SM#24]

It is.

Markus Walters is notorious for satire.

In saying that, I wouldn't be surprised if he implemented the stupid practice points. Coaches do what they do - they don't change much.

Everyone does realize that practice points and gold jerseys started with Sean, right ?

[drudy23]

Everyone does realize that practice points and gold jerseys started with Sean, right ?

I don't think anyone has a problem with implementing this to motivate guys to perform and using it as a performance measure.

The problem is using it as the be all end all for game minutes. That's just dumb.

Do you think Sean cared if Jordan Crawford led the team in gold jerseys (which I'm guessing he didn't)? Dude just got buckets and Sean knew it.

[GoMuskies]

Jordan Crawford played for Chris Mack.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Everyone does realize that practice points and gold jerseys started with Sean, right ?

Not about the the use of the system in practice but how the results get implemented into game decisions.

[webxu]

Jordan Crawford played for Chris Mack.

Correct, but decided to come to X when Miller was the coach. I believe he made mention of the fact that the 2009 Sweet 16 team would have been a title contender had Crawford been eligible.

[xavierj]

Correct, but decided to come to X when Miller was the coach. I believe he made mention of the fact that the 2009 Sweet 16 team would have been a title contender had Crawford been eligible.

Yes the year he left if he had stayed he would have had Derrick Brown, who probably would have stayed and Jordan Crawford. They would have beat Kstate and Butler had that been the case.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yes the year he left if he had stayed he would have had Derrick Brown, who probably would have stayed and Jordan Crawford. They would have beat Kstate and Butler had that been the case.

Would have been a higher seed and not even had those matchups if that were the case. That would have been a hell of a team.

[SemajParlor]

Would have been a higher seed and not even had those matchups if that were the case. That would have been a hell of a team.

A fun hypothetical is what would've been the better team. 2008-09 IF Crawford was eligibile (albeit a year younger than when he played for X)

Or:

If Derrick Brown had stayed his Senior Year for the 2009-2010.

My vote is the latter, but can see the case for both sides.

[D-West & PO-Z]

A fun hypothetical is what would've been the better team. 2008-09 IF Crawford was eligibile (albeit a year younger than when he played for X)

Or:

If Derrick Brown had stayed his Senior Year for the 2009-2010.

My vote is the latter, but can see the case for both sides.

Definitely the latter considering the only other loss of significance from 08/09 to 09/10 was BJ Raymond.

So if Brown comes back Raymond is the only loss and you still get the big jump in improvements from Tu, Love, McLean (although maybe not the jump here with Brown in the fold), plus the addition of Lyons as well.

[ThrowDownDBrown]

Definitely the latter considering the only other loss of significance from 08/09 to 09/10 was BJ Raymond.

So if Brown comes back Raymond is the only loss and you still get the big jump in improvements from Tu, Love, McLean (although maybe not the jump here with Brown in the fold), plus the addition of Lyons as well.

CJ Anderson was also a significant loss from the 08/09 team.

[muskiefan82]

CJ Anderson was also a significant loss from the 08/09 team.

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[webxu]

A fun hypothetical is what would've been the better team. 2008-09 IF Crawford was eligibile (albeit a year younger than when he played for X)

Or:

If Derrick Brown had stayed his Senior Year for the 2009-2010.

My vote is the latter, but can see the case for both sides.

Another fun one would be is if Semaj had stuck around 4 years can played on the 2015-16 team....

[IM4X]

Yes the year he left if he had stayed he would have had Derrick Brown, who probably would have stayed and Jordan Crawford. They would have beat Kstate and Butler had that been the case.

100% would have been. A ridiculous amount of talent would have been on that team.

[D-West & PO-Z]

CJ Anderson was also a significant loss from the 08/09 team.

Can't believe I overlooked Weez!