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Xuperman
03-22-2022, 06:29 AM
Coach Miller's picking list. Some familiar names.

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Basketball/TransferPortal/

JTG
03-22-2022, 08:57 AM
I saw where Aimaq is a hot commodity big. Scorer and rebounder.

xavierj
03-22-2022, 09:07 AM
I saw where Aimaq is a hot commodity big. Scorer and rebounder.

Looks like he is now at Utah Valley….

Xuperman
03-22-2022, 11:10 AM
Aimaq is currently the hottest commodity in the portal. A slew of big names already in contact.

https://www.aseaofblue.com/2022/3/19/22986596/fardaws-aimaq-has-interest-from-kentucky-wildcats-basketball

Gonzaga and UK have the need and leverage. Not that X could be a player amongst that crowd, but unless Nunge leaves we don't need a starting center.

bleedXblue
03-22-2022, 11:13 AM
I would expect Miller to nab 1-2 high level transfers this year.

I would think a SG and PF would be high priority.

xukeith
03-22-2022, 11:32 AM
Doesn't X need another pg to back up Odom ? Also because Desmond Claude might not recommit ?

ArizonaXUGrad
03-22-2022, 12:31 PM
Wow Jalen Graham from asu put his name in the portal. He is the PF we need, but someone is going to grab an athletic scoring forward that was ready to take a prominent role.

bleedXblue
03-22-2022, 01:30 PM
Doesn't X need another pg to back up Odom ? Also because Desmond Claude might not recommit ?

depends on Claude

bleedXblue
03-22-2022, 01:43 PM
Honestly, we need to get Miller announced as head coach in a formal presser and send a signal to all that he's leading the program. He can then start to recruit, evaluate and retain players.


NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE NIT.

BandAid
03-22-2022, 01:50 PM
Honestly, we need to get Miller announced as head coach in a formal presser and send a signal to all that he's leading the program. He can then start to recruit, evaluate and retain players.


NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE NIT.

He can't recruit until he gets announced?

Xuperman
03-22-2022, 02:43 PM
Wow Jalen Graham from asu put his name in the portal. He is the PF we need, but someone is going to grab an athletic scoring forward that was ready to take a prominent role.

You know Miller is familiar with Graham, although unlikely any personal connection. Wonder if his transfer has anything to do with the Hurley rumors.

MHettel
03-22-2022, 03:14 PM
IS the recruiting window open for HS players right now? Can we make contact with available players? Can we make contact with players that have an LOI with us?

The tough part of still playing is that the transfer market is already heating up, and we may not even know how many roster spots are open. I expect any roster moves we make to happen in very short order after the season ends. Hopefully Miller is working the phones....

UCGRAD4X
03-22-2022, 04:29 PM
Honestly, we need to get Miller announced as head coach in a formal presser and send a signal to all that he's leading the program. He can then start to recruit, evaluate and retain players.


NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE NIT.

Nobody's
Interested
Tournament

Xuperman
03-22-2022, 04:29 PM
Banners posted their Vandy preview a little while ago. Hints at Freemantle and Miles transfers. I'm assuming it's opinion only......regardless the timing is questionable and unnecessary.

xavierj
03-22-2022, 04:30 PM
IS the recruiting window open for HS players right now? Can we make contact with available players? Can we make contact with players that have an LOI with us?

The tough part of still playing is that the transfer market is already heating up, and we may not even know how many roster spots are open. I expect any roster moves we make to happen in very short order after the season ends. Hopefully Miller is working the phones....

Yes it is an open period and I believe Sean has been out recruiting and contacting players, including the ones that have committed prior and the one who had decomitted: also saw where someone from Xavier has reached out to a Colgate guard that hit the portal today.

atljar
03-22-2022, 04:33 PM
Nobody's
Interested
Tournament

Not
In
Tournament

Xuperman
03-22-2022, 04:51 PM
Someone from Xavier has reached out to a Colgate guard that hit the portal today.

If it's this guy, it could work out.....kinda in the Nate mold. Volume shooter. Takes almost half his shots from distance at a decent clip. Great from the line.....which is nice.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4279317/nelly-cummings

xavierj
03-22-2022, 04:57 PM
If it's this guy, it could work out.....kinda in the Nate mold. Volume shooter. Takes almost half his shots from distance at a decent clip. Great from the line.....which is nice.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4279317/nelly-cummings

Yes that is him. From PA so Sean may have a connection.

Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
03-22-2022, 05:13 PM
Banners posted their Vandy preview a little while ago. Hints at Freemantle and Miles transfers. I'm assuming it's opinion only......regardless the timing is questionable and unnecessary.

Interesting comment about Free's play against Fla......"even looked like he cared on defense". No idea what Free is thinking but I hope he stays and focuses on becoming the player we all thought he could be. Should he decide to stay and play the "4" he will need muscle and better defensive footwork. For all the pre-season talk (along with photos) around our strength training program, Free doesn't appear to have the strength needed for the Big East.

One thing about Free is that he definitely will need an attitude change going forward. If he doesn't want to be here, I wish him the best and let's go find players who do wish to play here.

GoMuskies
03-22-2022, 05:40 PM
If we keep everyone we want other than Free and Miles, that's a win.

Xville
03-22-2022, 05:54 PM
Yes that is him. From PA so Sean may have a connection.

I remember watching him against wisconsin and he stood out.

IM4X
03-22-2022, 06:39 PM
Interesting comment about Free's play against Fla......"even looked like he cared on defense". No idea what Free is thinking but I hope he stays and focuses on becoming the player we all thought he would be.

I hope he stays too. Wish we could all get behind him now that he is playing with purpose. I think he will be twice as disciplined and twice as productive under Miller. Maybe he is already leaving, but I for one hope not. I really want the Teaneck, NJ native returning and playing All-Big East level ball next year for X!

XUGRAD80
03-22-2022, 07:09 PM
It’s up to 635 people in the transfer portal already. I’d guess that it is going to end up around 1500 by the t8me it’s done.

I’d guess that while Miller is looking at the list that he is primarily spending his time on getting to know the current roster and find out what their plans are, re-recruiting the 3 current Xavier recruits, and finalizing his staff. He’s probably working around 20 hours a day and still doesn’t have enough time to get done what he wants to get done. I imagine he will look at transfers after he gets some of that accomplished.

xu82
03-22-2022, 07:59 PM
It’s up to 635 people in the transfer portal already. I’d guess that it is going to end up around 1500 by the t8me it’s done.

I’d guess that while Miller is looking at the list that he is primarily spending his time on getting to know the current roster and find out what their plans are, re-recruiting the 3 current Xavier recruits, and finalizing his staff. He’s probably working around 20 hours a day and still doesn’t have enough time to get done what he wants to get done. I imagine he will look at transfers after he gets some of that accomplished.


…..all while sweating up a storm!

Xville
03-22-2022, 08:10 PM
I hope he stays too. Wish we could all get behind him now that he is playing with purpose. I think he will be twice as disciplined and twice as productive under Miller. Maybe he is already leaving, but I for one hope not. I really want the Teaneck, NJ native returning and playing All-Big East level ball next year for X!

We’ll see. I trust in what miller wants to do. If he wants to keep him, great. If free wants to leave and not play for one of the top ten best coaches in the game today, then we don’t want him around anyways.

xuphan
03-23-2022, 11:40 AM
First portal name I have heard X linked with.

https://247sports.com/college/arkansas/Article/Basketball-recruitment-Wisconsin-Arkansas-Oklahoma-Florida-Minnesota-Xavier-Nelly-Cummings-185030421/

xuphan
03-23-2022, 07:53 PM
Xavier has reached out to Alex Tchikou and Taylor Funk. Both PFs

IM4X
03-23-2022, 08:58 PM
Xavier has reached out to Alex Tchikou and Taylor Funk. Both PFs

Thanks for sharing xuphan!

So I looked into these two a bit. One guy only played in three games last year and the other one is a 5th year player who admits he getting pushed around and needs to add muscle. Are we sure Steele didn’t recruit these guys? Maybe they will end up being good gets, but man would it be nice to see an X Coach add a PF who is a bit more of a muscular force down low who can jump and is hard to move. Someone with good hands /who is a rebounding and dunking machine.

Sean please where is your D Brown, J Love or even your Kenny Frease (with better hands of course). I’d be happy to see all of our bigs return, but like the old lady from those classic 80s Wendy’s commercial would say… “Where’s the beef?”

bobbiemcgee
03-23-2022, 09:10 PM
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-basketball-transfer-portal-2022-initial-top-ten-rankings-Fardaws-Aimaq-Jaylon-Tyson-Jaiden-Delaire-Jalen-Bridges-184976854/#184976854_1

We need #1

IM4X
03-23-2022, 09:25 PM
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-basketball-transfer-portal-2022-initial-top-ten-rankings-Fardaws-Aimaq-Jaylon-Tyson-Jaiden-Delaire-Jalen-Bridges-184976854/#184976854_1

We need #1

Yes…. if he backs out of the draft, he is exactly the kind of big who would compliment what we already have.

Xville
03-23-2022, 09:28 PM
Xavier has reached out to Alex Tchikou and Taylor Funk. Both PFs

No thanks on either of them. Look like Steele guys.

xuphan
03-23-2022, 09:32 PM
Thanks for sharing xuphan!

So I looked into these two a bit. One guy only played in three games last year and the other one is a 5th year player who admits he getting pushed around and needs to add muscle. Are we sure Steele didn’t recruit these guys? Maybe they will end up being good gets, but man would it be nice to see an X Coach add a PF who is a bit more of a muscular force down low who can jump and is hard to move. Someone with good hands /who is a rebounding and dunking machine.

Sean please where is your D Brown, J Love or even your Kenny Frease (with better hands of course). I’d be happy to see all of our bigs return, but like the old lady from those classic 80s Wendy’s commercial would say… “Where’s the beef?”

Thanks for the research. Sounds like they are both low impact guys which is disappointing. Maybe these guys are plan C, D guys if things don’t work out with other transfers/decommitted recruits. I am sure there will be a ton more players added to the transfer portal in the next month. Will be interesting to see who we land. Also, no way that big from Canada is coming here. He is like a 5* recruit of the transfer portal. Most likely going to a blue blood or Gonzaga.

Xavier
03-23-2022, 10:38 PM
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-basketball-transfer-portal-2022-initial-top-ten-rankings-Fardaws-Aimaq-Jaylon-Tyson-Jaiden-Delaire-Jalen-Bridges-184976854/#184976854_1

We need #1

Pipe dream. (Granted, I said the same about Sean). But if he wants to get drafted, go to Gonzaga and put up similar numbers. Will have a handful of big opportunities to prove himself.

I think it can be a tough start next year. Sean will have to get the right guys, and they might not be what you’d hope for. The one thing I’m very confident in is that whatever the roster looks like- we will see improvement throughout the year. I expect a lot of overhaul and things being patched together.

Xuperman
03-24-2022, 01:34 AM
Let's bring this youngster down I-75!

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4431824/moulaye-sissoko

Miller could work his magic.

UCGRAD4X
03-24-2022, 05:03 AM
Let's bring this youngster down I-75!

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4431824/moulaye-sissoko

Miller could work his magic.

Is he available?

markchal
03-24-2022, 07:43 AM
I'm 1000 percent content to let Sean bring in whoever he wants. The guy wins games, period. I also expect next year to be a rebuilding year to get our program in place for the future.

Xville
03-24-2022, 07:51 AM
I'm 1000 percent content to let Sean bring in whoever he wants. The guy wins games, period. I also expect next year to be a rebuilding year to get our program in place for the future.

While I agree with your first point, I donÂ’t necessarily agree with your second. In the age of the transfer portal, I donÂ’t think we need to be patient. It may be an outlier, but Iowa state is in the sweet 16; they won 2 games last year.

With that said, you have to hit on guys, but it can be done.

Just heard Kenny Payne at Louisville said he is keeping 5 scholarships for the current guys on the roster for next year. I wouldnÂ’t be surprised if thatÂ’s the case with x as well. Could be less.

murray87
03-24-2022, 07:53 AM
Is he available?

Yes he is:

https://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/dayton-loses-third-year-center-to-transfer-portal/SQ3E33O2XBGHPLGGL7KW3KXTUA/

bleedXblue
03-24-2022, 08:03 AM
Yes he is:

https://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/dayton-loses-third-year-center-to-transfer-portal/SQ3E33O2XBGHPLGGL7KW3KXTUA/

why do we want him?

Xville
03-24-2022, 08:08 AM
why do we want him?

yeah exactly. the time for projects is over. Guys, we need to start thinking a bit bigger...Steele isn't the coach anymore. We now have a top ten coach in all of basketball.

Dblue
03-24-2022, 08:28 AM
yeah exactly. the time for projects is over. Guys, we need to start thinking a bit bigger...Steele isn't the coach anymore. We now have a top ten coach in all of basketball.

Agreed. The only projects should be taking a 4 star player and progress him to a draft pick!

JTG
03-24-2022, 08:28 AM
I'm 1000 percent content to let Sean bring in whoever he wants. The guy wins games, period. I also expect next year to be a rebuilding year to get our program in place for the future.

Nope, we're dancing next year. What he keeps and what the portal makes available and his coaching ability make the Dance a near certainty.

markchal
03-24-2022, 09:59 AM
I think we can end up in the NCAA tournament, but I think it'll be the hardest year for him to do so, how about that? He's going to be a home run for us, I just don't want parts of the fanbase to lose patience if it doesn't happen overnight. I'm fully confident that we'll be better at the end of the season next year than the beginning (unlike what we've been lately) and that after that, we'll be back to an NCAA regular and a BE contender.

Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
03-24-2022, 10:41 AM
I think we can end up in the NCAA tournament, but I think it'll be the hardest year for him to do so, how about that? He's going to be a home run for us, I just don't want parts of the fanbase to lose patience if it doesn't happen overnight. I'm fully confident that we'll be better at the end of the season next year than the beginning (unlike what we've been lately) and that after that, we'll be back to an NCAA regular and a BE contender.

I'm with you on this unless Miller is able to hang on to just about everyone, coaches and recruits alike. Then, my near-term expectations rise substantially.

Is hard for me to put myself in any player's shoes after this season. But Miller is such a huge upgrade. As another poster said, "if you liked X before, you gotta love it now". I'm in that camp. I think Jonas and Free will be two hardest to keep. Jonas will, deservedly, have other opportunities and Free (until Steele got the hook) just didn't seem to want to be here.

After four years in the desert, I'm looking forward to seeing our guys in New York. Yes, its only the NIT, but they have been so much more fun to watch under Jonas. And, like others here, I'm also looking forward to the start of the Miller era and specifically, what he does with the transfer portal in the next couple of months.

GoMuskies
03-24-2022, 10:48 AM
I'm with you on this unless Miller is able to hang on to just about everyone, coaches and recruits alike. Then, my near-term expectations rise substantially.


I don't think any of the coaches are critical to keep if Miller keeps the recruits. It may not be possible to keep the recruits without the coaches, but the coaches are otherwise much more easily replaced.

markchal
03-24-2022, 11:23 AM
After four years in the desert, I'm looking forward to seeing our guys in New York. Yes, its only the NIT, but they have been so much more fun to watch under Jonas. And, like others here, I'm also looking forward to the start of the Miller era and specifically, what he does with the transfer portal in the next couple of months.

I mean it's just zero stakes, so it's fun to watch them because they are having fun playing together, we want Jonas to succeed, and because we get to watch stress-free Xavier basketball in March. Knowing we have Miller back and a new era of X bb right around the corner has made the last game and these next two a LOT more fun to watch.

XUGRAD80
03-24-2022, 11:28 AM
I think that it’s nearly impossible to forecast what transfers Miller is looking at currently. Until we see who is returning and which of the 3 recruits will recommit (hopefully all of them), we can’t really see where the holes are. I do suspect that Miller will be looking for an experienced PG that is a real scoring threat, and will also look to bolster the front line with true POWER forward. A group of Jones, Kunkel, Odom, an experienced PG transfer and the freshman would be pretty good IMO. I’m not at all sure that Free transfers, I think he will end up staying. Millers teams always seem to have had a good scoring forward, and I think that Free can be that piece in Miller’s squad. I also will be surprised if Miles, Stanley, and KyKy do not transfer. I don’t see a place for them moving forward.

Xville
03-24-2022, 11:53 AM
I think that it’s nearly impossible to forecast what transfers Miller is looking at currently. Until we see who is returning and which of the 3 recruits will recommit (hopefully all of them), we can’t really see where the holes are. I do suspect that Miller will be looking for an experienced PG that is a real scoring threat, and will also look to bolster the front line with true POWER forward. A group of Jones, Kunkel, Odom, an experienced PG transfer and the freshman would be pretty good IMO. I’m not at all sure that Free transfers, I think he will end up staying. Millers teams always seem to have had a good scoring forward, and I think that Free can be that piece in Miller’s squad. I also will be surprised if Miles, Stanley, and KyKy do not transfer. I don’t see a place for them moving forward.

Really curious to see what miller thinks of kyky. He’s lyonish offensively with proper coaching imo.

XUGRAD80
03-24-2022, 11:54 AM
Dionte Allen (KY), former Mr. BB in KY and who was a solid slam dunk for X before UK entered at the last moment, has entered the transfer portal. He hasn’t been able to get any solid playing time at UK over the last 3 years. He injured his knee late in his senior year of HS, but by all reports has recovered fully. 6’6” sharpshooter and from all accounts is just a tremendous young man. From Pendleton County, KY. which is only about 30 miles south of downtown Cincy.

Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
03-24-2022, 11:57 AM
I don't think any of the coaches are critical to keep if Miller keeps the recruits. It may not be possible to keep the recruits without the coaches, but the coaches are otherwise much more easily replaced.

Nobody on the team or staff is irreplaceable. But to the extent the staff and our experienced players don't leave, then we've got consistency + coherence going forward. And if we have those things, a bump in the road is otherwise avoided and that raises my immediate expectations going forward. I'm cautiously optimistic about loss of key individuals and recruits. I'd certainly want to play for Miller more than Steele. But it may be unrealistic of me to think we aren't going to have people leave and that some of those losses will hurt.

Still, like almost everyone else on this board, I'll take Miller and whatever losses happen because long term we're better off.

UCGRAD4X
03-24-2022, 12:36 PM
Nobody on the team or staff is irreplaceable. But to the extent the staff and our experienced players don't leave, then we've got consistency + coherence going forward. And if we have those things, a bump in the road is otherwise avoided and that raises my immediate expectations going forward. I'm cautiously optimistic about loss of key individuals and recruits. I'd certainly want to play for Miller more than Steele. But it may be unrealistic of me to think we aren't going to have people leave and that some of those losses will hurt.

Still, like almost everyone else on this board, I'll take Miller and whatever losses happen because long term we're better off.

Yup.

In Miller we trust.

The dude's been around. He'll put a good, competitive product on the court.

The hard part might be un-training the returning players from years of the Tin Man.

By the time we're a few games into BE play, he'll have the ship righted.

The quote, most often attributed to Bum Phillips and either about Don Shula or Bear Bryant (depending on the source - maybe both)

"He can take his'n and beat your'n and take your'n and beat his'n."

GoMuskies
03-24-2022, 03:29 PM
I personally just don't care if all the coaches leave. Except to the extent it might affect our on-court personnel next year.

Miller should pick his own staff and really shouldn't give any of the guys currently on staff special consideration just because they happen to be at Xavier now. If he otherwise wants them and they want to stay, great.

muskiefan82
03-24-2022, 03:45 PM
Peters has coached with Miller twice before. That may or may not be a good thing, but there is at least history or him being good enough for Miller to hire twice before

xuphan
03-24-2022, 10:24 PM
Xavier has reached out to Kentucky transfer Dontaie Allen and LSU transfer Xavier Pinson.

muskiefan82
03-24-2022, 10:28 PM
We've always needed a guy named Xavier on the team

Xville
03-24-2022, 10:30 PM
Xavier has reached out to Kentucky transfer Dontaie Allen and LSU transfer Xavier Pinson.

As also a Mizzou fan, I wouldn’t touch pinson. Guy will lose you games just as much as win them. Tons of talent, but horrible basketball iq.

Allen may be a good flyer, I dunno. Tough to judge when he got so little time at uk. Good size if he can play the two… I know the knock on him is limited athletically, but if he can shoot, I’ll take it!

GoMuskies
03-24-2022, 10:46 PM
I'd love to get Allen. That kid cam flat fill it up.

Xuperman
03-24-2022, 10:57 PM
I'd love to get Allen. That kid cam flat fill it up.

No doubt, and chances are good if Miller offers. I'm pretty sure X was on his short list coming out of HS. Only a Soph and his potential is un-tapped, but the word around here is that the injury as a Senior has caused him to lose a gear.....gotta take him though, if the opportunity presents itself.

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/dontaie-allen-still-recovering-from-injury-has-not-practiced/

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-kentucky/2019/09/24/kentucky-wildcats-basketball-dontaie-allen-rehabbing-acl-injury/2433338001/

Xuperman
03-24-2022, 11:08 PM
Another early hot commodity is the Cambridge kid out of Nevada. Wonder if Coach Miller has any connections there? If so, he's from Nashville.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/4279462/desmond-cambridge-jr

D-West & PO-Z
03-25-2022, 05:14 PM
Peters has coached with Miller twice before. That may or may not be a good thing, but there is at least history or him being good enough for Miller to hire twice before

I think Peters is a lock to stay. Everyone else I have no idea.

SemajParlor
03-25-2022, 05:38 PM
Based on Miller's comments today I think there's a decent chance that Jonas stays. Also I saw they are eating together tonight at Jeff Rubys

bjf123
03-25-2022, 07:09 PM
Based on Miller's comments today I think there's a decent chance that Jonas stays. Also I saw they are eating together tonight at Jeff Rubys

Assuming he doesn’t get a head coaching job somewhere. We’ll know in a week or so.

I also thought after hearing Miller’s talk, some of the players might be inclined to stick around, if they had given any thought to transferring. This assumes Sean wants them to stay.

I’m already looking forward to next year.


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xu82
03-25-2022, 07:16 PM
Assuming he doesn’t get a head coaching job somewhere. We’ll know in a week or so.

I also thought after hearing Miller’s talk, some of the players might be inclined to stick around, if they had given any thought to transferring. This assumes Sean wants them to stay.

I’m already looking forward to next year.


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Yes! I’m excited as well!

I had never heard from Jonas before seeing the post-game interview after the Vandy game. I was very impressed with the interview, and the play of the team speaks for itself since he took over. He WILL get a good HC position, but selfishly I hope he waits another year to get something even better.

xavierj
03-25-2022, 07:44 PM
Based on Miller's comments today I think there's a decent chance that Jonas stays. Also I saw they are eating together tonight at Jeff Rubys

Yeah unless Jonas gets a head coaching job he wants, he will be back at Xavier. No question about it.

bobbiemcgee
03-25-2022, 08:02 PM
Based on Miller's comments today I think there's a decent chance that Jonas stays. Also I saw they are eating together tonight at Jeff Rubys

Damn. That made me really hungry.

xuphan
03-25-2022, 09:45 PM
Xavier has reached out to Colorado State transfer Dischon Thomas

Xville
03-25-2022, 09:52 PM
Pippin just hit the transfer portal… get it done miller!

bobbiemcgee
03-25-2022, 09:53 PM
Xavier has reached out to Colorado State transfer Dischon Thomas

Hit 5 3's against Michigan

2020-21 (SOPHOMORE): Played in all 28 games, getting the start in seven of them... Improved averages to 5.2 points, 3.1 rebounds and 12.9 minutes per game... Connected on 48.1 percent of his field goal attempts, 45.0 percent on threes and 68.3 percent from the charity stripe... Scored a season-best 15 points (5-8 FG, 3-5 3p) with two rebounds and one steal in 15 minutes in the win at Utah State (Jan. 21)... Had 10 points and added six rebounds in 15 minutes off the bench in the win over UNLV (1/7)... Tied a career-high with 7 rebounds and added seven points in the NIT First Round victory over Buffalo (Mar. 19)... Came off the bench with 15 points (5-6 FG, 3-4 3p) and six rebounds in 21 minutes against Louisiana Tech in the NIT Third Place game (Mar. 28).

2019-20 (FRESHMAN): Played in all 32 games off the bench and averaged 3.8 points and 2.2 rebounds in 9.7 minutes per game on 65.3 percent shooting from the floor… Had nine points (two 3-pointers) and four rebounds at San Diego State (Feb. 25)… Posted 13 points and two steals in the win over San Jose State (Feb. 22)… Tallied nine points, hitting all three field goal attempts, and four rebounds in the win over UNLV (Feb. 1)… Recorded eight points, five rebounds and three assists in the victory over New Mexico (Jan. 15)…. Had a breakout game with a season-high 18 points and six rebounds in the home win over Utah Valley (Dec. 1).

IM4X
03-25-2022, 10:34 PM
Pippin just hit the transfer portal… get it done miller!

A little surprised… Maybe a Kentucky or Kansas has reached out. If not then -Hell yeah. He can ball!

HomerCecil
03-27-2022, 11:07 AM
A little surprised… Maybe a Kentucky or Kansas has reached out. If not then -Hell yeah. He can ball!

He’s not in the portal. Some random Twitter account said he was but it’s not true.

xuphan
03-27-2022, 01:26 PM
Xavier has reached out to Illinois State transfer Antonio Reeves.

SemajParlor
03-27-2022, 02:01 PM
Looks like a 20 ppg guard who made 39% of his 3s. I'm interested.

Masterofreality
03-27-2022, 02:02 PM
Dischon Thomas looks like the kind of big boy Big East 4 we need...who can also shoot!

GoMuskies
03-27-2022, 03:46 PM
Xavier has reached out to Illinois State transfer Antonio Reeves.

Who's doing the reaching out on behalf of Xavier these days? Just Miller? Or are some of the other guys still recruiting for Xavier?

UCGRAD4X
03-27-2022, 04:03 PM
Who's doing the reaching out on behalf of Xavier these days? Just Miller? Or are some of the other guys still recruiting for Xavier?

Good question. They do have a bit of a layoff so someone(s) could certainly be getting into some ears. I like to think Miller has reached out to someone on the staff he wants to retain (re: Hayes) so he can tell a recruit he is staying. Even if he is planning on entertaining HC offers, which he should, it indicates at least an intent of some stability. He just needs to be honest, which, I hope, goes without saying.

Interesting scenario. There almost certainly is some precedent.

xavierj
03-27-2022, 04:14 PM
Who's doing the reaching out on behalf of Xavier these days? Just Miller? Or are some of the other guys still recruiting for Xavier?

Looks like Dante is… he is the one following all the portal guys they have been listed as connected with.

xavierj
03-27-2022, 04:17 PM
Pretty sure Dante is coming back. He is the guy who recruited Craft and Claude and is actively recruiting for Xavier. Jonas will be back unless he takes a head coaching job and the Director of Ops, Brooks looks to return as well. He is connected to Ward. Looks like Peters may move on so will be interesting to see who replaces him.

D-West & PO-Z
03-27-2022, 05:03 PM
I didn't see Dante on video at Miller's introduction. Did I just miss him? Thought it was weird, especially since Miller mentioned him.

GoMuskies
03-27-2022, 05:19 PM
I didn't see Dante on video at Miller's introduction. Did I just miss him? Thought it was weird, especially since Miller mentioned him.

Perhaps Miller had Dante working his ass off at that point! No time for the intro! :)

Masterofreality
03-27-2022, 05:45 PM
I didn't see Dante on video at Miller's introduction. Did I just miss him? Thought it was weird, especially since Miller mentioned him.

He was there.

xuphan
03-27-2022, 08:15 PM
Two more names. Xavier has reached out to George Washington transfer Brayon Freeman and Gardner Webb transfer Lance Terry.

Olsingledigit
03-27-2022, 11:00 PM
He was there.

Dante walked by us in the back hall before the game and one of our group said “we hope you are staying, Dante,” and he said “Indo too.”. Pretty sure Sean would like to have him around.

BandAid
03-28-2022, 10:24 AM
What I have gathered from this thread:

Approximately 1,000 players have entered the portal.
We have reached out to 200 of them.

muskiefan82
03-28-2022, 10:27 AM
How does someone find out who has been reached out to? THat seems like a lot of effort

paulxu
03-28-2022, 11:12 AM
How does someone find out who has been reached out to?

= 1/5 of number entering portal

xuphan
03-28-2022, 11:49 AM
How does someone find out who has been reached out to? THat seems like a lot of effort

Twitter search. It’s not a lot of work but I find it interesting to see who we are looking at.

wvmuskie420
03-28-2022, 12:42 PM
Murray State point guard Justice Hill entered the transfer portal. First-team All-Ohio Valley selection, averaged 13.4 points, 5.1 assists and shot 35.8% from 3. and

xuphan
03-28-2022, 04:15 PM
Another day/Another name: Xavier has reached out to Temple transfer Jeremiah Williams.

ArizonaXUGrad
03-28-2022, 07:04 PM
Not sure if it was mentioned but it will affect transfers, Kraft recommitted.

xu82
03-28-2022, 07:26 PM
Not sure if it was mentioned but it will affect transfers, Kraft recommitted.

I was aware because, due to recent events, I’m paying closer attention to Xavier basketball. Close enough attention to I know it’s actually Kam Craft. I’m not the first to point this out, but we should all make a point of getting this young man’s name correct. Not singling you out, I may have even done it myself. But we owe him that.

Think KC, like the Chiefs or those big meaty ribs!

Welcome to the Xavier family, sir!


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ArizonaXUGrad
03-28-2022, 07:49 PM
Damn my mistake.

MHettel
03-28-2022, 07:51 PM
Damn my mistake.

He just de-committed, citing you having f’d up his name

Olsingledigit
03-28-2022, 07:58 PM
Dante walked by us in the back hall before the game and one of our group said “we hope you are staying, Dante,” and he said “I do too.”. Pretty sure Sean would like to have him around.

Corrected

xukeith
03-28-2022, 08:49 PM
Another day/Another name: Xavier has reached out to Temple transfer Jeremiah Williams.

I think I read he shoots 20% from 3

IM4X
03-28-2022, 10:01 PM
I’m paying closer attention… I know it’s actually Kam Craft.

Think KC, like the Chiefs.

I’m not going to lie. That’s probably a little better nnemonic for fans to use to help remember it’s “Kam Craft” and not Cam Kraft” than my suggestion of just thinking of “Karma Caramel.”

ArizonaXUGrad
03-28-2022, 11:49 PM
Craft looks legit. He is long, can shoot, and has played good competition.

principal
03-29-2022, 08:29 AM
According to this article, Shareef (Shaq’s son), originally committed to Sean/AZ (before choosing UCLA and then transferring to LSU). It sounds like he was injured for a time and hasn’t done much. Does anyone know anything about him, his potential, and should Miller go after him?

http://amp.thecomeback.com/ncaa/shareef-oneal-lsu-transfer-portal.html

Edit: Autocorrect (or maybe fat finger) got me in the subject line, it should be “Shaq’s son”.

Blue Blooded-05
03-29-2022, 09:38 AM
According to this article, Shareef (Shaq’s son), originally committed to Sean/AZ (before choosing UCLA and then transferring to LSU). It sounds like he was injured for a time and hasn’t done much. Does anyone know anything about him, his potential, and should Miller go after him?

http://amp.thecomeback.com/ncaa/shareef-oneal-lsu-transfer-portal.html

Edit: Autocorrect (or maybe fat finger) got me in the subject line, it should be “Shaq’s son”.

Would bring good visibility but unfortunately underwhelming production. A quick scan of his stats shows he lacks his dad's post presence but managed to retain his free throw shooting prowess. Only appeared in 37 games spread out over three years with barely half in-conference. Never scored in double figures. Best game against quality competition was 8 points & 11 rebounds vs Notre Dame in 2019 (ND was on the bubble for the 2020 tourney that never happened). Only other production appears to have come in garbage time.

Not a good sign but his prorated production per 40 minutes looks good: 9.6 points, 11 rebounds with a whopping 5.9 fouls. To your point, maybe his lack of PT is injury related. Maybe it's conditioning. Maybe it's just ability.

That being said, was #38 overall prospect in 2018 and I would love to see Diesel rocking X apparel.

XUMIOH12
03-29-2022, 10:01 AM
Would bring good visibility but unfortunately underwhelming production. A quick scan of his stats shows he lacks his dad's post presence but managed to retain his free throw shooting prowess. Only appeared in 37 games spread out over three years with barely half in-conference. Never scored in double figures. Best game against quality competition was 8 points & 11 rebounds vs Notre Dame in 2019 (ND was on the bubble for the 2020 tourney that never happened). Only other production appears to have come in garbage time.

Not a good sign but his prorated production per 40 minutes looks good: 9.6 points, 11 rebounds with a whopping 5.9 fouls. To your point, maybe his lack of PT is injury related. Maybe it's conditioning. Maybe it's just ability.

That being said, was #38 overall prospect in 2018 and I would love to see Diesel rocking X apparel.

He had (maybe still has?) a heart condition he had to get surgery for his first year in college and cost him most of his first two seasons. Fun name, maybe good potential, but kind of a wild card.

GoMuskies
03-29-2022, 10:10 AM
KJ Williams from Murray State entered the portal. That guy is a stud. If we could get him (particularly if Free was planning to leave), it would be enormous. Big guy who averaged 18 and 8 and shot 54% from the floor (32% from 3). He was 41% (26-63) from three in 2021.

XUGRAD80
03-29-2022, 12:56 PM
KJ Williams from Murray State entered the portal. That guy is a stud. If we could get him (particularly if Free was planning to leave), it would be enormous. Big guy who averaged 18 and 8 and shot 54% from the floor (32% from 3). He was 41% (26-63) from three in 2021.

I saw him play a couple of times this year. He looks like the real deal. Strong and quick down low and can shoot the 3 well. Would be an enormous addition.

Xavier
03-29-2022, 01:11 PM
I hope everyone notices all the transfers. Even from bigger schools. So when X has a few- it isn’t worthy of a melt down (like so many did when Steele was here). It’s part of the game, will happen every year. Doesn’t mean the coach sucks— again, pointing out those who couldn’t seem to separate that from this new era of transfer portal.

BandAid
03-29-2022, 01:37 PM
I hope everyone notices all the transfers. Even from bigger schools. So when X has a few- it isn’t worthy of a melt down (like so many did when Steele was here). It’s part of the game, will happen every year. Doesn’t mean the coach sucks— again, pointing out those who couldn’t seem to separate that from this new era of transfer portal.

Lies and falsehoods.

If someone transferred in the past, it's because Steele stunk.
If someone transfers now and moving forward, it's because they stink and wilted in the grandeur that is Coach Miller.

This is the truth.

Xuperman
03-31-2022, 10:13 AM
Unless you're expecting the returning team to stay intact, some transfer fireworks are about to begin.....starting tomorrow. The outcome of tonight's game, likely, has little to do with these decisions.

Personally, I would like the assistant situation to gain clarity asap, but I'm thinking there is a player or 2 that have already made up their minds and will be quick to enter the portal. I view this as a positive.

Coach Miller appears to have a "hands off" approach while the boys are still playing, but I expect the "open for business" sign goes up starting tomorrow. It's going to be an exciting spring!

xukeith
03-31-2022, 02:15 PM
Posters here have a 50 50 chance of being correct.

Last year many of us expected a ton of transfers. Carter left and to many folk;s surprise everyone wanted to be on team 100 and play around with Steele as head coach.


I have no idea if certain players want to leave this team or not. Maybe Miller has issued some evaluations of talent to send a message. Maybe Miles, Tandy, Stanley and Edwards want more playing time. Maybe coaches have said, "time to look for another school".

I imagine Miller will want to get a combo guard who can play 1 and 2 guard and also a post player to solidify the team.

Certainly Nunge, Freemantle and Edwards need the improvement.

Hope Craft , Ward and Claude all hop on the Miller wagon.

GoMuskies
03-31-2022, 02:16 PM
I'll be upset if either of Odom or Jones leave. I'd like everyone else to stay (except perhaps Hunter), but those are the two I really care about.

Xuperman
03-31-2022, 02:37 PM
I'll be upset if either of Odom or Jones leave. I'd like everyone else to stay (except perhaps Hunter), but those are the two I really care about.

Totally agree on Down and Colby. I would add Jack and Adam. However, based on the few general comments Miller has made about this roster, is there any real possibility that he evaluates the returning talent and says, "I wouldn't change a thing"?

noteggs
03-31-2022, 02:55 PM
Well according to Fran, we have the most talented roster in the BE. Maybe Sean will take his advice? (Sarc)

bleedXblue
03-31-2022, 03:17 PM
Key to next year IMHO is :

Keeping Odom, Colby, Free and Edwards

Returning Kunk and Nunge. I don't think they have an x-fer option given they both have already moved once. They could simply leave and try to play pro ball etc.

Anyone else is not much of a loss. I realize that all of the above staying is likely close to 0%. Just my wish.

Xavier
03-31-2022, 06:53 PM
I really want Nunge to stay. (Could see a Europe route- don’t see him transferring). I think Kunkel and Odom will stay. But we just spent 6 weeks wondering if we even had Big East talent. I’m not going to worry one way or another if anyone outside of Nunge leaves. Nunge and the freshman class all staying committed- perfect world.

It’s funny how folks went from hating on the team and Travis to hoping everyone stays and maybe even Travis stays as an assistant. I felt like we needed a complete overhaul of the roster in order to compete. And I think we still do, at least in terms of competing for the Big East Championship. I think Sean will take whoever he has and get us to the tournament next year, though.

XU_Lou
03-31-2022, 06:54 PM
Well this is a pretty depressing thread: http://www.musketeermadness.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=22443&sid=8007a201cc952815fe0d3bef0b6f28c0

Does anyone know anything else?

xu82
03-31-2022, 06:57 PM
Well this is a pretty depressing thread: http://www.musketeermadness.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=22443&sid=8007a201cc952815fe0d3bef0b6f28c0

Does anyone know anything else?

I know that it’s the internet, and I’ll leave it at that. It might be true, you never know, but I can’t worry about it now. Our future is bright, and I hope they are all part of it. It’s all I can do.

Xville
03-31-2022, 07:02 PM
I don’t care if the entire team leaves and miller has to start over. I trust in miller and the success that he has had , so if these players ( that haven’t done much of anything) don’t, that’s their loss.

Iowa state made the tourney with basically an entire new roster this year. Miller can do that.

Xavier
03-31-2022, 07:42 PM
Well this is a pretty depressing thread: http://www.musketeermadness.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=22443&sid=8007a201cc952815fe0d3bef0b6f28c0

Does anyone know anything else?

I mean those guys were rumored before Steele got let go too. Since then all but Freemantle has been liking X social media stuff with Miller but really- just not a huge deal. Need to reiterate it’s the same guys that finished 8th in the big East.

XU_Lou
03-31-2022, 07:47 PM
I mean those guys were rumored before Steele got let go too. Since then all but Freemantle has been liking X social media stuff with Miller but really- just not a huge deal. Need to reiterate it’s the same guys that finished 8th in the big East.

Disagree - where would they have finished with Jonas Hayes as HC? Much better than 8th. And what if Sean Miller had been coach? Even better. TS was not getting the most out of this talent.

xukeith
03-31-2022, 07:53 PM
People rumoring inside sources info are the same people who said last year X would lose 3-5 players and only Carter left. Nobody knows.

Miller will maybe decide some futures tomorrow.

xuphan
03-31-2022, 08:26 PM
Remember, they are the same guys who didn’t show up for their coach for multiple years at the end of the season. Bad turnovers, missed open shots, taking plays off on defense, poor free throw shooting, etc. It took their coach getting fired and Paul getting hurt for them to show up. If they want to leave, let them leave. The more we can get rid of the Steele type of basketball the better. Id rather rebuild next year than to have Steele mentality type players.

bjf123
03-31-2022, 08:38 PM
People rumoring inside sources info are the same people who said last year X would lose 3-5 players and only Carter left. Nobody knows.

Miller will maybe decide some futures tomorrow.

Would love to be a fly on the wall during tomorrow’s team meeting.


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Tim
03-31-2022, 08:40 PM
Remember, they are the same guys who didn’t show up for their coach for multiple years at the end of the season. Bad turnovers, missed open shots, taking plays off on defense, poor free throw shooting, etc. It took their coach getting fired and Paul getting hurt for them to show up. If they want to leave, let them leave. The more we can get rid of the Steele type of basketball the better. Id rather rebuild next year than to have Steele mentality type players.

Exactly. I'm so relaxed now with Miller in charge that I feel like it's the player's loss, not ours, if they leave. In fact, I'll take it a step further and focus on the only 3 players that I consider as locks to want back, Odom, Jones, and nunge, and say that if they leave because they prefer Steele to Miller, our program would be better off.

Xville
03-31-2022, 08:41 PM
People rumoring inside sources info are the same people who said last year X would lose 3-5 players and only Carter left. Nobody knows.

Miller will maybe decide some futures tomorrow.

Huh? Three players transferred last year. However, yeah I don’t trust many people’s sources… they were the same ones saying miller wasn’t an option.

D-West & PO-Z
04-01-2022, 12:04 AM
I'll be upset if either of Odom or Jones leave. I'd like everyone else to stay (except perhaps Hunter), but those are the two I really care about.

Odom, Jones, Nunge, and Kunkel need to be our core for next year. I hope all 4 return. Anyone else leaving wouldnt be a huge loss imo. Not that I want them to but wouldnt be a killer.

IM4X
04-01-2022, 12:58 AM
Odom, Jones, Nunge, and Kunkel need to be our core for next year. I hope all 4 return. Anyone else leaving wouldnt be a huge loss imo. Not that I want them to but wouldnt be a killer.

I have to respectfully disagree. I think Free would also be a big loss. I really think with the proper coach he is an All Conference caliber - not just preseason All conference caliber.

D-West & PO-Z
04-01-2022, 01:34 AM
I have to respectfully disagree. I think Free would also be a big loss. I really think with the proper coach he is an All Conference caliber - not just preseason All conference caliber.

I hope he does, but he is definitely 5th on my list. If Sean could get him tougher on D he could be a great player.

Xville
04-01-2022, 08:45 AM
First thing I'll say is congrats to Jonas and the boys for what they were able to accomplish these last two weeks. It was impressive and Jonas will be remembered. I hope he stays and I think if he did, he would have better options as a HC in a year or two, but understand if he wants to go someplace closer to home. Seems like a great man and mentor for young adults.

In regards to these "rumors" anyone who says anything at this point (unless it is from the player himself) is just baloney. I doubt most of these guys have spent time with Miller or if they have, it has been little and it sounds like Miller has told the ones he has met with, to just focus on the NIT. I think everyone and everything is up in the air right now in regards to assistants, players etc but will start becoming clear in the weeks ahead.

Won't be surprised if anyone leaves, but in Miller I trust.

XUGRAD80
04-01-2022, 09:49 AM
First thing I'll say is congrats to Jonas and the boys for what they were able to accomplish these last two weeks. It was impressive and Jonas will be remembered. I hope he stays and I think if he did, he would have better options as a HC in a year or two, but understand if he wants to go someplace closer to home. Seems like a great man and mentor for young adults.

In regards to these "rumors" anyone who says anything at this point (unless it is from the player himself) is just baloney. I doubt most of these guys have spent time with Miller or if they have, it has been little and it sounds like Miller has told the ones he has met with, to just focus on the NIT. I think everyone and everything is up in the air right now in regards to assistants, players etc but will start becoming clear in the weeks ahead.

Won't be surprised if anyone leaves, but in Miller I trust.

Spot on. In fact the Enquirer just put up an article in which both Nunge and Jones are quoted as saying that they have only talked to Miller a little bit and will take a couple of weeks to evaluate their options.

XUGRAD80
04-01-2022, 09:50 AM
Check out this article from Cincinnati.com:

Xavier basketball's Jonas Hayes, Colby Jones and Jack Nunge discuss their future

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/xaviersports/2022/04/01/xaviers-jonas-hayes-colby-jones-jack-nunge-discuss-future/7240602001/

xuwillie
04-01-2022, 09:55 AM
I hope he does, but he is definitely 5th on my list. If Sean could get him tougher on D he could be a great player.

We need change, Miller is a good coach but this roster isn't winning the big east. I trust Miller can get better players in the portal especially at the four position

boozehound
04-01-2022, 10:02 AM
I hope he does, but he is definitely 5th on my list. If Sean could get him tougher on D he could be a great player.

I think we all agree that if Freemantle comes back, busts his ass, and is a team player, that he could be great. I'm not sure what the likelihood of that is, and I have heard that he hasn't been a great locker room guy this season. Sometimes it's the coach, and sometimes it's the player.

muskiefan82
04-01-2022, 11:57 AM
Is the entire LSU team in the portal? Wow

Xuperman
04-01-2022, 12:52 PM
Dahmir Bishop transfers to Florida Gulf Coast.

Xuperman
04-01-2022, 12:54 PM
Former Xavier targets Jusuan Holt and Ben Carlson in the portal. Don't think either is a good fit for Miller.

noteggs
04-01-2022, 05:34 PM
Well Lukosius from Butler just entered the portal. Since he torched us last game and an International player, maybe Sean will kick the tires. Boy that kid can shoot and really like his game for being a Freshman. Sure he’ll be a hot commodity tho…

Xavgrad08
04-01-2022, 05:37 PM
Per Rothstein twitter Kansas State transfer guard Nijel Pack is receiving interest from the following programs.

Gonzaga
Arizona
Purdue
Xavier
Tennessee
Miami
Ohio State
NC State
Marquette

Pack averaged 17.4 for Kansas State and is from Indianapolis.

xukeith
04-01-2022, 05:53 PM
Former Xavier targets Jusuan Holt and Ben Carlson in the portal. Don't think either is a good fit for Miller.

Why not? What do any of us fans know about what Miller wants here at X?
He says needed toughness, and elite ranked. They both were sought by X over past 3-4 years.

XU-PA
04-01-2022, 09:14 PM
This is insane.
At best coaching staffs will be overwhelmed and most players won't be noticed at all.
https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/1000-players-in-transfer-portal-college-basketball-world-reacts

principal
04-01-2022, 11:07 PM
Why not? What do any of us fans know about what Miller wants here at X?
He says needed toughness, and elite ranked. They both were sought by X over past 3-4 years.

Did you look up their stats?

bjf123
04-02-2022, 11:19 AM
This is insane.
At best coaching staffs will be overwhelmed and most players won't be noticed at all.
https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/1000-players-in-transfer-portal-college-basketball-world-reacts

I think a lot of the kids will find their egos getting bruised. They’re going to expect their phones to ring off the hook, and for most of them, it will be from a lesser program. There’s usually a reason they’re not getting the playing time they think they deserve. Obviously, the 4 and 5 stars will be getting lots of interest from top programs.


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MHettel
04-02-2022, 11:43 AM
In todays age, if I were a 3/4 star recruit coming out of HS, I’d probably commit to a lesser school where I know I’d get some solid PT as a freshman and soph and then hit the portal to try to land at a top school in a big 6 conference where my PT would essentially be assured.

It would suck to commit to a school where there was an apparent path towards immediate PT, only to get recruited over and have a transfer take those minutes. Then you hit the portal with no real “tape” or any kind of stats. Interest is tepid. You may waste a couple-three years just trying to make a rotation somewhere, anywhere.

Xavier
04-02-2022, 04:45 PM
It’s interesting. While the NIL stuff is a big advantage to bigger schools (though, I haven’t seen much news about that throughout the year. It maybe is more of an issue in football? Hard to say.) the transfer portal is potentially better for smaller schools. I get that there great players might move on- but it’s a good way to get talent they otherwise wouldn’t. Guys who maybe didn’t get the playing time- or heck even as Mhettel said- could be good recruiting pitches. We have playing time- come here and you’ll have another opportunity to show what you can do. It’s a win win.

Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
04-02-2022, 05:05 PM
In todays age, if I were a 3/4 star recruit coming out of HS, I’d probably commit to a lesser school where I know I’d get some solid PT as a freshman and soph and then hit the portal to try to land at a top school in a big 6 conference where my PT would essentially be assured.

It would suck to commit to a school where there was an apparent path towards immediate PT, only to get recruited over and have a transfer take those minutes. Then you hit the portal with no real “tape” or any kind of stats. Interest is tepid. You may waste a couple-three years just trying to make a rotation somewhere, anywhere.

That's the downside of the portal. I've seen a few guys recently hit the portal who already transferred once. They sought greener pastures heading someplace where they anticipated more playing time, didn't achieve it and now they are moving on again. Illinois just had one.

I suppose most of these guys believe they can play at the next level so their hoops career takes priority. Just a thought, but does receiving a quality education (in the case of X, a quality Jesuit education), earning a degree and having potential long-term non basketball careers in a wonderful city----does that matter anymore?

How many of these transfers, I wonder, even earn their degrees? The graduate transfers do. The Jack Nunge types do but some of these players may just be chasing a dream while the clock is running out on them. if I'm X I don't even consider a transfer who doesn't have education very high on their list of objectives. Maybe that's old fashion. I doubt it is something about which Bruce Pearl worries. We want a great basketball program but if that's all that matters, in the end it cheapens the university.

X-Expert
04-03-2022, 08:40 AM
People rumoring inside sources info are the same people who said last year X would lose 3-5 players and only Carter left. Nobody knows.

Miller will maybe decide some futures tomorrow.

Actually carter, wilcher, and Ramsey left. Kyky tried but there wasn’t any interest from high majors so he decided to stay. But to your point, I agree that only the players and coach knows what’s going on. Allegedly, Freemantles dad is not happy with X and his reduced role (not being the main guy).

xuphan
04-03-2022, 09:06 AM
Actually carter, wilcher, and Ramsey left. Kyky tried but there wasn’t any interest from high majors so he decided to stay. But to your point, I agree that only the players and coach knows what’s going on. Allegedly, Freemantles dad is not happy with X and his reduced role (not being the main guy).

We will find out soon enough on the Freemantle situation. If it does not come directly from the coaches or Zach and his family, the info is pure speculation.

boozehound
04-03-2022, 09:47 AM
Actually carter, wilcher, and Ramsey left. Kyky tried but there wasn’t any interest from high majors so he decided to stay. But to your point, I agree that only the players and coach knows what’s going on. Allegedly, Freemantles dad is not happy with X and his reduced role (not being the main guy).

Sounds kind of like a Tandy situation. He may have a similar experience to KyKy in the transfer portal. After last year if Zach gets an offer to basically be 'the main guy' on a team it will almost certainly be a lower caliber program than Xavier.

Olsingledigit
04-03-2022, 09:50 AM
It’s interesting. While the NIL stuff is a big advantage to bigger schools (though, I haven’t seen much news about that throughout the year. It maybe is more of an issue in football? Hard to say.) the transfer portal is potentially better for smaller schools. I get that there great players might move on- but it’s a good way to get talent they otherwise wouldn’t. Guys who maybe didn’t get the playing time- or heck even as Mhettel said- could be good recruiting pitches. We have playing time- come here and you’ll have another opportunity to show what you can do. It’s a win win.

Sadly the whole system reeks (pun intended) of the old saying that “s**t flows to the bottom”.

Masterofreality
04-03-2022, 10:41 AM
Well Lukosius from Butler just entered the portal. Since he torched us last game and an International player, maybe Sean will kick the tires. Boy that kid can shoot and really like his game for being a Freshman. Sure he’ll be a hot commodity tho…

I’d like that kid, and he seems to be a fit for what Sean likes too.
Butler is a mess

xuwin
04-03-2022, 12:24 PM
I’d like that kid, and he seems to be a fit for what Sean likes too.
Butler is a mess

Maybe Matta can straighten the mess out.

XU-PA
04-03-2022, 01:23 PM
Actually carter, wilcher, and Ramsey left. Kyky tried but there wasn’t any interest from high majors so he decided to stay. But to your point, I agree that only the players and coach knows what’s going on. Allegedly, Freemantles dad is not happy with X and his reduced role (not being the main guy).

Total speculation about Free

Xavgrad08
04-03-2022, 01:40 PM
The transfer portal has changed taking over a program in a potentially positive and potentially negative way. On the positive you can get transfers in that can contribute immediately. On the negative you can lose players.

In LSU's case they have lost all 13 scholarship players following Will Wade's firing. With NCAA sanctions looming, not a single scholarship player from last season remains on the team, right now.

https://sports.yahoo.com/lsu-loses-every-remaining-scholarship-player-to-transfer-portal-after-firing-will-wade-005625584.

New LSU coach Matt McMahon has accepted two transfers into LSU from his old School Murray State.

IM4X
04-03-2022, 02:15 PM
We will find out soon enough on the Freemantle situation. If it does not come directly from the coaches or Zach and his family, the info is pure speculation.

Agree. It’s a shame to see mean-spirited comments written about players after pure speculation that they might be leaving. It seems fair for fans to question what the problem is when a player looks like he might not be giving his best energy or focus, but it just seems unproductive and even childish for any of us to be name-calling X players - it just isn’t a good look. I would hope as ambassadors of the school (because that’s really what we all are) we try to be supportive and respectful and we help make sure Xavier is presented as a place that shows class-where we fans refrain from bashing a player when we hear unfounded speculation mentioned about that play not returning.

Free has really played hard lately and as fans we ought to be extremely encouraged and give him our support. I’ve met Zach’s parents: they both were extremely pleasant and engaging during my conversation. It would be great if we could wait to see what the actual situation is and stick to being supportive fans. I believe most fans right now want Free to stay and every fan will be happy a year from now if he does stay.

Masterofreality
04-03-2022, 03:11 PM
The above is true. Post deleted based on speculatory assumptions

XU_Lou
04-03-2022, 05:08 PM
Agree. It’s a shame to see mean-spirited comments written about players after pure speculation that they might be leaving. It seems fair for fans to question what the problem is when a player looks like he might not be giving his best energy or focus, but it just seems unproductive and even childish for any of us to be name-calling X players - it just isn’t a good look. I would hope as ambassadors of the school (because that’s really what we all are) we try to be supportive and respectful and we help make sure Xavier is presented as a place that shows class-where fans are not bashed at the first mention of unfounded speculation about them leaving.

Free has really played hard lately and as fans we ought to be extremely encouraged and give him our support. I’ve met Zach’s parents: they both were extremely pleasant and engaging during my conversation. It would be great if we could wait to see what the actual situation is and stick to being supportive fans. I believe most fans right now want Free to stay and every fan will be happy a year from now if he does stay.

100% - all of this. I don't get the bashing of players on this board (the personal stuff).

UCGRAD4X
04-03-2022, 05:09 PM
Is the portal open on Sundays?

X Factor
04-04-2022, 10:26 AM
Dwon entering the portal.

Masterofreality
04-04-2022, 10:29 AM
And getting Jerome Hunter vibes.
Sorry to hear about Dwon.

Smails
04-04-2022, 10:30 AM
Dwon entering the portal.

This was one i was hoping would not happen, but was pretty convinced it was going to. If you look at the players Miller has been reaching out to in the portal, there were several PG's. I think he knew this was a real possibility and makes the re-commitment of Claude all that more important.

boozehound
04-04-2022, 10:35 AM
This was one i was hoping would not happen, but was pretty convinced it was going to. If you look at the players Miller has been reaching out to in the portal, there were several PG's. I think he knew this was a real possibility and makes the re-commitment of Claude all that more important.

Odom seems like a guy who could really flourish under Miller's coaching. He would be a tough loss.

LOLmickcronin
04-04-2022, 10:38 AM
Odom seems like a guy who could really flourish under Miller's coaching. He would be a tough loss.

Agree. Kind of surprised. I hate to lose him because I felt like he was always the only pure point guard we had and was finally developing. Paul and Colby were such ball stoppers at time it was nice to see a PG keep it moving. Would be nice to have as the team transitions next year.

Masterofreality
04-04-2022, 10:39 AM
Odom seems like a guy who could really flourish under Miller's coaching. He would be a tough loss.

He’s married to Jonas. This makes me even more convinced that Jonas is taking the GA State job. Dwon will be a star in that league

D-West & PO-Z
04-04-2022, 10:44 AM
He’s married to Jonas. This makes me even more convinced that Jonas is taking the GA State job. Dwon will be a star in that league

You think Dwon will trasfer to GA State? Interesting.

I hate to lose Dwon, however, I do wonder how much Miller prefers a PG who can shoot from outside? Hopefully Miller can land someone solid from the portal.

drudy23
04-04-2022, 10:55 AM
I would venture to guess that Sean wasn't all too thrilled with the PG usage and depth on this team.

drudy23
04-04-2022, 11:09 AM
Dwon quote:

“I will always cherish the great moments we had being on that court together but I ultimately feel in order for me to reach my fullest potential on the court, there has to be a big change"

Interesting - My guess is he wants to play ALOT - he's a gamer.

xavbball
04-04-2022, 11:11 AM
Unfortunate to hear about Odom. Hope he finds success wherever he lands next.

xuphan
04-04-2022, 11:13 AM
Dwon quote:

“I will always cherish the great moments we had being on that court together but I ultimately feel in order for me to reach my fullest potential on the court, there has to be a big change"

Interesting - My guess is he wants to play ALOT - he's a gamer.

Sad to see him go. I really hope he develops an outside shot. He will be unstoppable if that happens.

Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
04-04-2022, 11:17 AM
I would venture to guess that Sean wasn't all too thrilled with the PG usage and depth on this team.

Probably true but Odom seems to be just the type of player Miller would love. Having been a strong supporter of Odom, I'm disappointed. Still we all expected some transfers out. Doesn't Hunter have to sit a year if he moves on? Anybody know anything about the son of the rapper? Is he legit?

Hope Odom isn't the first domino. If he is, Miller is very much still the right guy to lead our program. Looking forward to see what happens in the off-season.

Thanks to Odom. We could not have won the NIT without him! Wish him nothing but good in his future.

SemajParlor
04-04-2022, 11:17 AM
Anyone else interpret Dwon's "BIG change" note as a likely Big 10 team? Or am I just bored on a Monday AM.

SemajParlor
04-04-2022, 11:19 AM
Dwon was probably my favorite guy on the roster this year. Definitely sad to see him leave. However, the good news is that the portal works both ways.. I feel confident we can bring in someone that will help us win next year.

Masterofreality
04-04-2022, 11:19 AM
You think Dwon will trasfer to GA State? Interesting.

I hate to lose Dwon, however, I do wonder how much Miller prefers a PG who can shoot from outside? Hopefully Miller can land someone solid from the portal.

No sources, just my speculation. But I can see a path where Jonas goes back home to GA State, coached them up for a couple of years and then when GA Tech inevitably fires Pastner he takes over there.

OTRMUSKIE
04-04-2022, 11:19 AM
Good luck to Odom. But if he wants to meet his full potential then he should stay. Unless Miller told him he would prob be coming off the bench. Odom was lights out within 5 feet of the basket.

Muskie
04-04-2022, 11:19 AM
Anyone else interpret Dwon's "BIG change" note as a likely Big 10 team? Or am I just bored on a Monday AM.

I'm guessing a Big Ten Squad. Maybe Penn State?

GoMuskies
04-04-2022, 11:20 AM
Good luck to Odom. But if he wants to meet his full potential then he should stay. Unless Miller told him he would prob be coming off the bench. Odom was lights out within 5 feet of the basket.

I wish he was staying, but I'm sure he can meet his full potential any number of places.

Masterofreality
04-04-2022, 11:21 AM
Dwon quote:

“I will always cherish the great moments we had being on that court together but I ultimately feel in order for me to reach my fullest potential on the court, there has to be a big change"

Interesting - My guess is he wants to play ALOT - he's a gamer.

Yup. Totally misused here, until Jonas

Backyard Champ
04-04-2022, 11:33 AM
I’m one of the few that thinks if we want to be really good, he’s not a big loss.

Not sure why people think he’s the type of guy that Miller would love. He was not a good defender and he couldn’t shoot. Though he was very good at getting a shot at the bucket, his defender could just hang in the paint all day long. Just clogged the lain for other players. Easy to play help defense if Odom is sitting at the 3point line.

Not trying to bash because he was very athletic and had some potential, but I’d think the very best case would be 6ht man.

xukeith
04-04-2022, 11:35 AM
Yup. Totally misused here, until Jonas

I imagine Miller wants more offense from the pg spot.
Odom, I thought, would own the pg spot next year BUT Colby Jones has recently been favored to handle the ball handling .

MHettel
04-04-2022, 11:37 AM
Dwon quote:

“I will always cherish the great moments we had being on that court together but I ultimately feel in order for me to reach my fullest potential on the court, there has to be a big change"

Interesting - My guess is he wants to play ALOT - he's a gamer.

I must say that I don't understand the quote at all. There was already a massive change in the HC switch to Miller. Odom was a 6th man under Travis, and then started when Scruggs went down. He appeared to be in line to start next year.

Not sure what big changes he could have been wanting. And I dont think it's any type of cypher to suggest that it will be a Big 10 team.

I dont get it. Disappointed that he's leaving, but equally confident that Miller will pull together a talented roster in year 1.

This does make it pretty apparent to any Portal PGs that the starting job is available.

xukeith
04-04-2022, 11:38 AM
I’m one of the few that thinks if we want to be really good, he’s not a big loss.

Not sure why people think he’s the type of guy that Miller would love. He was not a good defender and he couldn’t shoot. Though he was very good at getting a shot at the bucket, his defender could just hang in the paint all day long. Just clogged the lain for other players. Easy to play help defense if Odom is sitting at the 3point line.

Not trying to bash because he was very athletic and had some potential, but I’d think the very best case would be 6ht man.

Adding Colby Jones responsibilities of handling the PG role didn't comfort Odom maybe. Maybe Miller recognized Odom's shortcomings and wanted to have 2 different ball handlers next year. Hopefully teh next pg can shoot from three and defend.

xukeith
04-04-2022, 11:44 AM
With an upgrade in pg, I hope Kunkle transfers too. X certainly with Miller can get a reliable play maker and shot maker in the portal.

Kunkel's 0-9 shooting can't make Miller happy

Relying on frosh Craft for the future sg role is a benefit too.

muskiefan82
04-04-2022, 11:57 AM
Just please stay away from Xavier Pinson. That is all I ask.

drudy23
04-04-2022, 12:06 PM
I think if we're all being honest, we loved Dwon because he had a huge heart, played his ass off, and was supremely athletic. I thought he had a place on this team, but I can also see why a guard oriented coach would move in another direction because of his size, poor 3 point shooting and lack of traditional point guard game.

If Sean was honest about his intentions for the point guard position, and Dwon didn't see his skills fitting into that, then you can't really blame him. It's all about fit.

We're going to see a drastically different team next year - and I'm not really talking about personnel. It's obvious we need to move FAR away from how this offense was run the last 4 years. This team is in desperate need of a true point guard.

muskiefan82
04-04-2022, 12:15 PM
I think if we're all being honest, we loved Dwon because he had a huge heart, played his ass off, and was supremely athletic. I thought he had a place on this team, but I can also see why a guard oriented coach would move in another direction because of his size, poor 3 point shooting and lack of traditional point guard game.

If Sean was honest about his intentions for the point guard position, and Dwon didn't see his skills fitting into that, then you can't really blame him. It's all about fit.

We're going to see a drastically different team next year - and I'm not really talking about personnel. It's obvious we need to move FAR away from how this offense was run the last 4 years. This team is in desperate need of a true point guard.

Truth. And I am more than willing to deal with blowing it up to fix it as long as there is a plan that makes sense. Anything over what has gone before...

xavbball
04-04-2022, 12:27 PM
I’m one of the few that thinks if we want to be really good, he’s not a big loss.

Not sure why people think he’s the type of guy that Miller would love. He was not a good defender and he couldn’t shoot. Though he was very good at getting a shot at the bucket, his defender could just hang in the paint all day long. Just clogged the lain for other players. Easy to play help defense if Odom is sitting at the 3point line.

Not trying to bash because he was very athletic and had some potential, but I’d think the very best case would be 6ht man.

Not to say that 3 point shooting is one of his strengths, but Odom shot 33% from 3 this year. That's at the same clip as one of our "good shooters," Adam Kunkel. He was 60% inside the arc and 83% from the line. I couldn't agree more with MasterOfReality, that he was completely misused under Steele. It's a shame to see him transfer, and I think he'll be an absolute stud at his next destination.

blueblood
04-04-2022, 12:56 PM
Not to say that 3 point shooting is one of his strengths, but Odom shot 33% from 3 this year. That's at the same clip as one of our "good shooters," Adam Kunkel. He was 60% inside the arc and 83% from the line. I couldn't agree more with MasterOfReality, that he was completely misused under Steele. It's a shame to see him transfer, and I think he'll be an absolute stud at his next destination.Yes but he was 16% from 3 not counting banked in passes. Lol. 2 for 6 overall, he knew he shouldn't shoot them (kudos to him) and so did our opponents.

Great player, I'll miss watching him play.

IM4X
04-04-2022, 01:03 PM
What’s with all these players purposely put cryptic messages on Twitter with just enough information to get people speculating about what it could mean by looking for key words.

“He said, a ‘big change” so it must mean he’s leaving for the Big Ten.” Them someone else is like “No, he means ‘bigs change’ as in he wants the bigs he is playing with on the court to change.” Then another person.. “No I think the ‘big change’ means he wants to get a more lucrative NIL deal.” Then “No, I think he means he wants to change his name.”

I guess it’s a way to create buzz and put feelers out to other schools before officially going into the transfer portal. I wish they would just wait until they either know they are staying or gong.

I do really wish Dwon would stay. I thought he very much fit the “tough kind of X player” Miller said X used to be known for recruiting. Dwon leaving, if that is truly what this message means, is a bit of a shock to me. I hope this is just him thinking things through and he ultimately stays.

xukeith
04-04-2022, 01:13 PM
Not to say that 3 point shooting is one of his strengths, but Odom shot 33% from 3 this year. That's at the same clip as one of our "good shooters," Adam Kunkel. He was 60% inside the arc and 83% from the line. I couldn't agree more with MasterOfReality, that he was completely misused under Steele. It's a shame to see him transfer, and I think he'll be an absolute stud at his next destination.

If Odom shot 33% in practice from 3, we would all see him launching several threes in the game.
His sample size is too small from 3. Either everyone told him do not shoot threes or he was never comfortable shooting threes.

drudy23
04-04-2022, 01:36 PM
What’s with all these players purposely put cryptic messages on Twitter with just enough information to get people speculating about what it could mean by looking for key words.

“He said, a ‘big change” so it must mean he’s leaving for the Big Ten.” Them someone else is like “No, he means ‘bigs change’ as in he wants the bigs he is playing with on the court to change.” Then another person.. “No I think the ‘big change’ means he wants to get a more lucrative NIL deal.” Then “No, I think he means he wants to change his name.”

I guess it’s a way to create buzz and put feelers out to other schools before officially going into the transfer portal. I wish they would just wait until they either know they are staying or gong.

I do really wish Dwon would stay. I thought he very much fit the “tough kind of X player” Miller said X used to be known for recruiting. Dwon leaving, if that is truly what this message means, is a bit of a shock to me. I hope this is just him thinking things through and he ultimately stays.

He's gone dude.

xavbball
04-04-2022, 01:40 PM
If Odom shot 33% in practice from 3, we would all see him launching several threes in the game.
His sample size is too small from 3. Either everyone told him do not shoot threes or he was never comfortable shooting threes.

I think it's fair to say that a "good look" gave every player the green light under Steele's system. I agree it's a small sample size, and Odom knew that wasn't his strength. I know "the game has changed," and Steele wanted to turn us into a Villanova wannabe, but we used to be good at getting to the line and making FTs. Odom is listed as #14 in the transfer rankings, so I expect him to get a lot of interest.

drudy23
04-04-2022, 01:54 PM
I think it's fair to say that a "good look" gave every player the green light under Steele's system. I agree it's a small sample size, and Odom knew that wasn't his strength. I know "the game has changed," and Steele wanted to turn us into a Villanova wannabe, but we used to be good at getting to the line and making FTs. Odom is listed as #14 in the transfer rankings, so I expect him to get a lot of interest.

Curious, where do you see the list and ranking of guys in the portal?

xukeith
04-04-2022, 02:08 PM
I think it's fair to say that a "good look" gave every player the green light under Steele's system. I agree it's a small sample size, and Odom knew that wasn't his strength. I know "the game has changed," and Steele wanted to turn us into a Villanova wannabe, but we used to be good at getting to the line and making FTs. Odom is listed as #14 in the transfer rankings, so I expect him to get a lot of interest.

Who is ranking the tranfers?

SM#24
04-04-2022, 02:22 PM
Not to say that 3 point shooting is one of his strengths, but Odom shot 33% from 3 this year. That's at the same clip as one of our "good shooters," Adam Kunkel. He was 60% inside the arc and 83% from the line. I couldn't agree more with MasterOfReality, that he was completely misused under Steele. It's a shame to see him transfer, and I think he'll be an absolute stud at his next destination.

Let's stop saying Odom is a 33% 3 point shooter. He was 20% this year. I don't count the pass that went in, he was 1/5 on the season. But let's also stop saying Odom can't shoot. Everywhere else on the court, he was our best shooter. He had the highest % on close 2s, far 2s and FT.
We can dissect him to death but all I know is the past two years, we played better when he was on the court. I think he was misused by not being used enough.

IM4X
04-04-2022, 02:25 PM
He's gone dude.

Yo, I get that the message is worded in such a way that it sounds like he is moving. Do we have confirmation? You posted the quote from Dwon. I don’t question that it was a quote from him, but I can’t seem to find it anywhere. Was it deleted from his Twitter account? Can you post the link? I appreciate the info - I just personally don’t like to play the speculation game, even when it seems like info is pointing us all in one direction. Again, while the quote you posted does sound like he’s leaving, we have not yet seen him write or say (to my knowledge) that he is leaving X. If there is a chance he is just writing his thoughts, but has not made a decision, I want him to know there are fans who really want him to stick around.

drudy23
04-04-2022, 02:39 PM
Yo, I get that the message is worded in such a way that it sounds like he is moving. Do we have confirmation? You posted the quote from Dwon. I don’t question that it was a quote from him, but I can’t seem to find it anywhere. Was it deleted from his Twitter account? Can you post the link? I appreciate the info - I just personally don’t like to play the speculation game, even when it seems like info is pointing us all in one direction. Again, while the quote you posted does sound like he’s leaving, we have not yet seen him write or say (to my knowledge) that he is leaving X. If there is a chance he is just writing his thoughts, but has not made a decision, I want him to know there are fans who really want him to stick around.

Hell I don't know - it was on Twitter, there were articles about it, and he was in the portal.

Maybe he changed his mind like that one recruit of ours that ended up going like 6 places.

xuwillie
04-04-2022, 02:40 PM
its on instagram

94GRAD
04-04-2022, 02:48 PM
Yo, I get that the message is worded in such a way that it sounds like he is moving. Do we have confirmation? You posted the quote from Dwon. I don’t question that it was a quote from him, but I can’t seem to find it anywhere. Was it deleted from his Twitter account? Can you post the link? I appreciate the info - I just personally don’t like to play the speculation game, even when it seems like info is pointing us all in one direction. Again, while the quote you posted does sound like he’s leaving, we have not yet seen him write or say (to my knowledge) that he is leaving X. If there is a chance he is just writing his thoughts, but has not made a decision, I want him to know there are fans who really want him to stick around.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb7qjUiuUt6/

X-man
04-04-2022, 03:11 PM
He's in the portal. Here's the link: https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Basketball/TransferPortal/.

IM4X
04-04-2022, 03:12 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb7qjUiuUt6/

Thanks for the link. Bummer. Well, I asked for it and unfortunately I got it. So he actually does include that he entering the transfer portal. Someone is going to get a heck of a player. Sorry to see you go Dwon. I was a big fan!

IM4X
04-04-2022, 03:16 PM
Hell I don't know - it was on Twitter, there were articles about it, and he was in the portal.

Maybe he changed his mind like that one recruit of ours that ended up going like 6 places.

I did not realize/read he was actually in the portal. Now I see why you were so certain.

xu82
04-04-2022, 03:19 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb7qjUiuUt6/

I don’t know…….that’s pretty vague………..

:-)

noteggs
04-04-2022, 04:00 PM
Hard to believe he only played with us for two years. Since he committed so early, feels a tad bit longer. Oh well, good luck on your next stop young man. Just hope it’s not the BE.

XU-PA
04-04-2022, 06:41 PM
Anyone if our impact players,
Kunk, Nunge, Colby, Dwon, Hunter, Cesar, could transfer and be a big fish in a smaller pond by transferring to a smaller school, lesser conference.
I hope they see the advantage to playing on the bigger stage that the Big East offers.
It'll make a huge difference in their resume' when utstimr to take that next step

boozehound
04-04-2022, 08:55 PM
I'll be really interested to see where Dwon goes. Unless he is worried about getting beaten out by a Freshman, I would think he is looking at playing 30+ min per game with a pretty long leash next year. I'm not sure he is going to be able to go up a level in terms of program and still see those types of minutes, and I don't see the benefit in going to a lesser program to get minutes that he likely would have gotten at Xavier. Maybe an indication that Miller is planning to let it rip with Claude as a Freshman or go hard after someone in the portal?

I hope he changes his mind, as I really like Dwon and think he could develop into one heck of a PG.

xu82
04-04-2022, 09:13 PM
SIDE NOTE: Anyone catch the National Anthem for the Championship game in NOLA?

xu82
04-04-2022, 09:17 PM
I'll be really interested to see where Dwon goes. Unless he is worried about getting beaten out by a Freshman, I would think he is looking at playing 30+ min per game with a pretty long leash next year. I'm not sure he is going to be able to go up a level in terms of program and still see those types of minutes, and I don't see the benefit in going to a lesser program to get minutes that he likely would have gotten at Xavier. Maybe an indication that Miller is planning to let it rip with Claude as a Freshman or go hard after someone in the portal?

I hope he changes his mind, as I really like Dwon and think he could develop into one heck of a PG.


I agree on ALL of that. Hope he ends up back at X.

xuphan
04-04-2022, 09:21 PM
I agree on ALL of that. Hope he ends up back at X.

I may have read his instagram post wrong but it doesn’t sound like coming back is an option.

xu82
04-04-2022, 09:26 PM
I may have read his instagram post wrong but it doesn’t sound like coming back is an option.

It sounded pretty definitive, but the Fat Lady ain’t sung yet. I’m just not sure where he’d have a better opportunity, but I’ll trust the players decisions to do what is best for them. I also trust Miller to know what he’s looking for.

Xville
04-04-2022, 09:32 PM
I’m just speculating here but Odom said he talked to miller. Could have easily been miller’s decision as much as Odom or that miller may have said that nothing was guaranteed when Odom thought his starting pg spot was secure. Who knows.

I will say reading about Claude…he sounds impressive and he has the size you need in the big East. Its interesting that Claude recommits and then a day later Odom says he’s outta here.

xu82
04-04-2022, 09:42 PM
I’m just speculating here but Odom said he talked to miller. Could have easily been miller’s decision as much as Odom or that miller may have said that nothing was guaranteed when Odom thought his starting pg spot was secure. Who knows.

I will say reading about Claude…he sounds impressive and he has the size you need in the big East. Its interesting that Claude recommits and then a day later Odom says he’s outta here.

If this is the case (which it may well be), there will be an experienced guy from the portal joining us soon. I wish all these parts would fall into place, but I trust in Miller to get it right.

Might I add, I would LOVE a PG who could live in the 85-90% range from the FT line. Games are too often won from the FT line to settle for mediocre.


.

Xville
04-04-2022, 10:01 PM
If this is the case (which it may well be), there will be an experienced guy from the portal joining us soon. I wish all these parts would fall into place, but I trust in Miller to get it right.

Might I add, I would LOVE a PG who could live in the 85-90% range from the FT line. Games are too often won from the FT line to settle for mediocre.


.

Amen to your last point. We need that “clutch” factor back in this program

Xavier
04-04-2022, 10:02 PM
I got the feeling Sean didn’t commit starting minutes to Odom in there meeting- and he decided to go elsewhere. All speculation but saying he has to do what’s best for him and his game- it adds up. Sean’s been talking to basically all big name PG transfers.

muskiefan82
04-04-2022, 10:20 PM
Here's to the coach setting his rules and his agenda and not playing favorites. I'll take it

xukeith
04-04-2022, 10:32 PM
I got the feeling Sean didn’t commit starting minutes to Odom in there meeting- and he decided to go elsewhere. All speculation but saying he has to do what’s best for him and his game- it adds up. Sean’s been talking to basically all big name PG transfers.

Name the top pg X is talking to.

SemajParlor
04-04-2022, 10:42 PM
Xavier has been linked to a few pretty good to great point guards. I have no idea who they'll end up with but they're going to get someone good.

Nigel Pack, Nelly Cummings are 2 names I'd love to get!

ArizonaXUGrad
04-04-2022, 10:48 PM
This one is a bummer, but I trust Miller and his ability to judge talent.

KabeX
04-04-2022, 10:48 PM
Amen to your last point. We need that “clutch” factor back in this program
Yes, like TU-Steel Balls-F'in Holloway.

bobbiemcgee
04-04-2022, 11:19 PM
I thought Jonas utilized Odum's skills nicely in the nit. Plenty of great transfers to replace him.

MHettel
04-04-2022, 11:58 PM
I thought Jonas utilized Odum's skills nicely in the nit. Plenty of great transfers to replace him.

Agree. More and more I realize that it just is what it is. We need 2 PGs for sure next year. Claude should have no expectations of starting, which pretty much leaves the starting PG job wide open.

If I’m XU and looking across the options and Odom was available, I’m not sure he’d be my #1 choice for the job. He would be an option for sure. But that lack of 3 ball is a big deal. Teams can game plan with that in mind. I think having a starting job open is a big draw when recruiting the portal. We will get a guy that fits Sean’s offense.

I suspect we will have a guy in a few days or less

ArizonaXUGrad
04-05-2022, 12:06 AM
I could see Kunkel being a quality player for Miller. He plays smart and hard, feign in those long threes and he is a sound player.

UCGRAD4X
04-05-2022, 05:03 AM
Sorry to see Dwon go and hope he does well.

It is encouraging to know that Miller has a plan, a clear path to what he wants this team to look like and is being proactive in putting it in motion.

LET 'er XIP Coach.

profson
04-05-2022, 05:44 AM
I thought Jonas utilized Odum's skills nicely in the nit. Plenty of great transfers to replace him.

Not like he had a choice when Scruggs went down.

xavierj
04-05-2022, 07:36 AM
Not like he had a choice when Scruggs went down.

Sure but he sure did play well. He was really good in the final game. He is limited though but he isn’t a bad player. He was another guy that Travis kind of neutered. You will hear from him again. My guess is he is headed to Maryland.

bleedXblue
04-05-2022, 07:59 AM
Sort of a weird situation with Odom. The fact that he cant shoot at all outside 10-12 feet is an issue. I don't know how hard Miller tried at really retaining him. Also, maybe the last 2 years of Steele frustrating him also was part of it and he was just ready for a new situation......

boozehound
04-05-2022, 08:51 AM
I got the feeling Sean didn’t commit starting minutes to Odom in there meeting- and he decided to go elsewhere. All speculation but saying he has to do what’s best for him and his game- it adds up. Sean’s been talking to basically all big name PG transfers.

I agree that it does kind of sound like he had a conversation with Miller that didn't go the way he wanted. I assume it had to do with competition / guaranteed minutes or something along those lines.

xuwillie
04-05-2022, 09:26 AM
I could see Kunkel being a quality player for Miller. He plays smart and hard, feign in those long threes and he is a sound player.

Plays hard but smart? My opinion, He took more ill advised shots than anyone on the team last year

drudy23
04-05-2022, 10:06 AM
Plays hard but smart? My opinion, He took more ill advised shots than anyone on the team last year

I've said this in the past too and it is a contradiction - but yes, he's a smart player that takes rushed and dumb shots sometimes lol

He is probably one of our smartest players except in shot selection. But that's not saying much as this team had very poor decision making overall.

Kind of like the smartest of the dumb kids.

Masterofreality
04-05-2022, 01:12 PM
Not exactly a Murderers Row:

From Justin Byerly:

“ Xavier transfer Dwon Odom has heard from Iona, Georgia Southern, South Carolina, Duquesne and Loyola Marymount since entering the transfer portal.””

GoMuskies
04-05-2022, 01:16 PM
St. Peter's best players all entered the portal. Not that any of them are actually any good.

xu82
04-05-2022, 01:25 PM
Plays hard but smart? My opinion, He took more ill advised shots than anyone on the team last year

Hunter took shots that were not dunks. I think he wins that prize.

He did some things well, shot selection was not one of them.

LOLmickcronin
04-05-2022, 01:42 PM
Plays hard but smart? My opinion, He took more ill advised shots than anyone on the team last year

For what it’s worth, i felt like once he was utilized correctly (ie when steele was gone) he was much smarter with shot selection. Steele used him pretty much only as a spot up 3 specialist. And when guys like they get limited minutes they tend to come in and jack up what they can before they get taken back out.

Kunkel is actually pretty smooth with the ball and I love how he finishes at the rim. When he’s actually involved in the offense and allowed to move the ball I think he’s pretty effective and noticed his shot selection mostly improve.

xudash
04-05-2022, 01:45 PM
Not exactly a Murderers Row:

From Justin Byerly:

“ Xavier transfer Dwon Odom has heard from Iona, Georgia Southern, South Carolina, Duquesne and Loyola Marymount since entering the transfer portal.””

That blows my mind. I love the kid. Hell, I hope he stays with us. I get the issue with not having an outside shot, but everything else about him is top shelf, especially his will to fight and win.

GoMuskies
04-05-2022, 01:56 PM
Rick Pitino loves him some Dwon Odom.

drudy23
04-05-2022, 02:05 PM
He can't shoot the 3, he's too small for 2 (comparatively), and he's not a prototypical point guard. He's not going to get high level interest just based on the measurables and shooting stats. He's just not a Big East starting guard (and probably not a Top 6 conference guard). If you had to rank Big East guards, he'd probably be near the bottom.

He will probably dominate a lesser conference however, which could be great for him. Plays his ass off and maybe could be a Power 6 back-up, but you're likely not scouring the portal for back-ups.

Like I said, he has a use on this team, but not sure it's starting or playing the extended minutes he's looking for. My guess would be that Steele would have moved him straight into the starting line-up next year.

Sean has bigger plans.

HomerCecil
04-05-2022, 02:51 PM
I'm not really sure why everyone is so stunned about Odom. It seems pretty obvious that he wants to play for Hayes. He's from Georgia. I would imagine he'll be at Georgia State next year. As for the list of schools who've shown interest in him, it has barely been 24 hours since he put his name in.

D-West & PO-Z
04-05-2022, 02:57 PM
I'm not really sure why everyone is so stunned about Odom. It seems pretty obvious that he wants to play for Hayes. He's from Georgia. I would imagine he'll be at Georgia State next year. As for the list of schools who've shown interest in him, it has barely been 24 hours since he put his name in.

I don't think 24 hours is as short of a time period as you think it is when it comes to reaching out to players you are interested in who are in the portal.

I could be wrong, but I imagine sought after guys hear from teams very quickly.

MHettel
04-05-2022, 03:08 PM
I'm a little surprised we havent seen more activity from our guys entering the portal. I'm not necessarily encouraging them to do it, but there are 3 guys I can identify right now that dont seem to have a path to more PT. And another 1 or 2 that have been rumored to be disgruntled.

If I'm a player that intends to enter the portal, I'm doing it NOW. Not in 5 minutes, but NOW. I dont want schools that I would be interested in to get too involved (and possibly offer) with guys that are already in the portal while I'm on the outside considering my options.

In theory, you can always withdraw. Well, try to withdraw I guess. I imagine there are a few guys that Miller simply wouldnt want.

HomerCecil
04-05-2022, 03:36 PM
I don't think 24 hours is as short of a time period as you think it is when it comes to reaching out to players you are interested in who are in the portal.

I could be wrong, but I imagine sought after guys hear from teams very quickly.

For a very select top few players, that's probably true. I doubt it's true for all of them, especially with the astronomical number entering the portal this year.

Look at Xavier, for instance: We don't even know who is leaving yet. You kind of need to know who you need to replace before you can replace them.

Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
04-05-2022, 03:43 PM
I'm a little surprised we havent seen more activity from our guys entering the portal. I'm not necessarily encouraging them to do it, but there are 3 guys I can identify right now that dont seem to have a path to more PT. And another 1 or 2 that have been rumored to be disgruntled.

If I'm a player that intends to enter the portal, I'm doing it NOW. Not in 5 minutes, but NOW. I dont want schools that I would be interested in to get too involved (and possibly offer) with guys that are already in the portal while I'm on the outside considering my options.

In theory, you can always withdraw. Well, try to withdraw I guess. I imagine there are a few guys that Miller simply wouldnt want.

I would suspect by Friday we will have a pretty complete picture. Players likely waiting to meet with Miller and then see what happens with Jonas Hayes. The disgruntled may be less so after the NIT run. Your thoughts would seem to also apply to recruits. If a spot is being held for Ward, one would think he'd be motivated to reaffirm pretty quickly if he wants it. That he has not perhaps indicates he has what he thinks is a better offer. Just speculating here.

D-West & PO-Z
04-05-2022, 04:08 PM
For a very select top few players, that's probably true. I doubt it's true for all of them, especially with the astronomical number entering the portal this year.

Look at Xavier, for instance: We don't even know who is leaving yet. You kind of need to know who you need to replace before you can replace them.

Yeah, I get it. I'm not sure you need to know exactly before you contact someone you are interested in but generally I see your point.

He heard from 5 schools very quickly. Do I think he will hear from more? Yes. Do I think some might be major programs? Yes. Do I think he will get as much high major attention as he thinks (or even I would have thought) he would when going into the portal? Probably not.

Olsingledigit
04-05-2022, 04:21 PM
Hunter took shots that were not dunks. I think he wins that prize.

He did some things well, shot selection was not one of them.

Bingo!

xukeith
04-05-2022, 05:16 PM
I imagine Ward know if he picks Xavier, he will be sitting behind Jones at the 3 spot. Or maybe Miller wants Jones to be a primary ball handler/pg and Ward has more minutes at the 3.

LOLmickcronin
04-05-2022, 05:59 PM
I imagine Ward know if he picks Xavier, he will be sitting behind Jones at the 3 spot. Or maybe Miller wants Jones to be a primary ball handler/pg and Ward has more minutes at the 3.

Jones as primary ball handler/PG? That’s terrifying. I love how the kid plays but he’s a total ball stopper. And in Big East play he gets to the basket only to get stopped and get lost trying to kick it back out or get his shot blocked.

xuphan
04-05-2022, 06:12 PM
I imagine Ward know if he picks Xavier, he will be sitting behind Jones at the 3 spot. Or maybe Miller wants Jones to be a primary ball handler/pg and Ward has more minutes at the 3.

Can Ward play the 2 as well or is he strictly a 3?

D-West & PO-Z
04-05-2022, 09:42 PM
Jones as primary ball handler/PG? That’s terrifying. I love how the kid plays but he’s a total ball stopper. And in Big East play he gets to the basket only to get stopped and get lost trying to kick it back out or get his shot blocked.

I would have agreed most of the season but he was pretty dang good playing at the PG spot a game or two in the NIT. He was playing it even with Dwon on the floor.

But in general, I gotta think Sean has his eyes on someone at the PG spot he thinks he can get from the portal.

IM4X
04-05-2022, 10:59 PM
St. Peter's best players all entered the portal. Not that any of them are actually any good.

Actually, I would love to have Doug Ebert (the kid who was Free’s teammate in high school). He is a baller. He plays with an edge, hustles all the time, passes well, scores from everywhere on the court and shoots well from 3.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/ncaa-basketball/news/doug-edert-saint-peters-mustache-peacocks-march-madness/wqkhybpjmkm2o4ncedol7az1

GoMuskies
04-05-2022, 11:01 PM
He'd make a really nice walk on.

IM4X
04-05-2022, 11:39 PM
He'd make a really nice walk on.

Tough crowd. He may be from a smaller lower tier program than X, but let’s not forget he was also one of the better players on an elite eight team. I’m telling you the kid can play. I wouldn’t expect him to be handed a starting position like this kid (see link) who Sean is trying to land, but he would a good contribute off of the bench.

https://www.collegebasketballtransfers.com/post/duke-reaches-out-to-arguably-the-top-guard-in-the-transfer-portal

On a separate note… I could see Miller telling Odom he would love to have him stay at X, but he just wanted to be fair to him by telling Dwon that he is offering some of the best PGs (like Pack) in the portal because he wants X to be stacked at every position… with the 13 best players he can find.

GoMuskies
04-05-2022, 11:55 PM
Johnson, Kunkle and Stanley were all far better low major players than he was. I'm also a bit tired of Xavier as the low major all stars!

UCGRAD4X
04-06-2022, 04:59 AM
Tough crowd. He may be from a smaller lower tier program than X, but let’s not forget he was also one of the better players on an elite eight team. I’m telling you the kid can play. I wouldn’t expect him to be handed a starting position like this kid (see link) who Sean is trying to land, but he would a good contribute off of the bench.

https://www.collegebasketballtransfers.com/post/duke-reaches-out-to-arguably-the-top-guard-in-the-transfer-portal

On a separate note… I could see Miller telling Odom he would love to have him stay at X, but he just wanted to be fair to him by telling Dwon that he is offering some of the best PGs (like Pack) in the portal because he wants X to be stacked at every position… with the 13 best players he can find.

If Dwon was that concerned about competition at his position, good riddance.

Normally I would laugh at the idea of us getting Pack. With Miller...not so much.

SemajParlor
04-06-2022, 10:45 AM
The other team I follow as closely as X is a MAAC School so I've had the chance to watch St Peter's all year and a bunch in person. With respect to Edert and the other St Peter's transfers, I don't see them as impactful players on a high major team. The only guy I think that should play meaningful minutes on a Big East caliber school is KC Ndefo and I bet he goes pro. Edert was a great story but someone like Kunkel is significantly better in my opinion.

GIMMFD
04-06-2022, 10:55 PM
If Miller can somehow get Nijel Pack from Kansas State to transfer here, that would be so damn salivating, watching him play in a tough conference and just light it up (watched him drop 18 on WVU in conference tourney, and 20 earlier on WVU in season, but also 35 on Kansas and 31 on Baylor who aren't exactly the softest defensive teams) we'd have an instant go to scorer, and two seasons of 40% shooting from beyond the arc. Yes freaking please.

xukeith
04-08-2022, 04:50 PM
Is Steele permitted to contact his former players to get them interested in transferring to Miami(OH)?

xukeith
04-08-2022, 05:03 PM
Is Steele permitted to contact his former players to get them interested in transferring to Miami(OH)?

Hope X can get Doug Edert from St. Peter’s

X-man
04-08-2022, 05:04 PM
Hope X can get Doug Edert from St. Peter’s

You're joking, right?