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atljar
03-19-2022, 04:58 PM
Adam baum and Rick broering confirm!

https://247sports.com/college/xavier/Article/Sean-Miller-new-head-coach-Xavier-University-184784968/

drudy23
03-19-2022, 05:00 PM
A new era has begun.

So excited to get back to Xavier basketball.

Backyard Champ
03-19-2022, 05:01 PM
The ride has just begun.

I really think we hit the ground running. Recruits and transfers will want to play with Miller.

kane79
03-19-2022, 05:01 PM
A new era has begun.

So excited to get back to Xavier basketball.

a new era? or return to a past era?

smileyy
03-19-2022, 05:02 PM
New era, IMO. Miller coaching in the Big East.

Xville
03-19-2022, 05:03 PM
Fuck yes that final 2% is going to be secured

Blue Blooded-05
03-19-2022, 05:04 PM
The mojo is back!! Welcome home, Sean!! Well done everyone involved!!!

Lamont Sanford
03-19-2022, 05:04 PM
It's Miller time again!!! Welcome back Coach!!!

smileyy
03-19-2022, 05:06 PM
ESPN carrying the story of an "expected" return: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33548495/xavier-expected-hire-sean-miller-coach-return-one-year-away-sport-sources-say

Edit: In the "Top Headlines" of ESPN's site now.

HAAS_U
03-19-2022, 05:06 PM
So pumped!! Welcome back Sean! Let’s go!!!

Caveat
03-19-2022, 05:09 PM
GC and the staff played this whole situation perfectly.

Massive, massive upgrade for the program done quickly and with minimal drama.

The Buick rides again!

X Factor
03-19-2022, 05:10 PM
What a day boys!!!! Sean Miller is coming back!!

Can't tell you how pumped I am right now!

D-West & PO-Z
03-19-2022, 05:11 PM
We did it! Lets go. Major props to Christopher and company for getting this done!

Congrats to all of us who knew change was needed but told Miller was a pipedream and Steele was safe and we still demanded change! We got it!

Let's sell out the 'tas tomorrow!

OTRMUSKIE
03-19-2022, 05:11 PM
See I told you!!!

X-man
03-19-2022, 05:12 PM
What a day boys!!!! Sean Miller is coming back!!

Can't tell you how pumped I am right now!

Best news about the hoops program in a LONG time. Miller is a fabulous coach. Will be renewing my season tickets (30+ year season ticket holder) after all.

chico
03-19-2022, 05:16 PM
Time to get that flagship out of dry dock, we got our captain back!

xukeith
03-19-2022, 05:22 PM
Time to get that flagship out of dry dock, we got our captain back!

How’s Melanie feel about this? Winning time is back.

At least top half of Big East

smileyy
03-19-2022, 05:24 PM
CBS Sports carrying the story: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/xavier-hires-sean-miller-ex-musketeers-coach-returning-for-second-stint-leading-mens-basketball-program/

IM4X
03-19-2022, 05:31 PM
Goody goody gumdrops!

We are back to being X fellas!!!!

Now we can all take a nap- the program is on good hands.

GIMMFD
03-19-2022, 05:31 PM
Welcome home Coach Miller, as noted in the thread, huge hire by Christopher and I have massive respect for him pulling the strings behind the scenes and getting it done. He showed that he has some Tu level steel balls. Excited for X basketball again after the past two years of anhedonia. It's a great day.

CP05XU08CU13
03-19-2022, 05:32 PM
Incredible news! Ultimately, familiarity, a basketball first school and the Big East Conference won him over in my opinion. The SEC will always be a football first conference even though there are some solid and traditional basketball programs in it. The tradition of the Big East Conference is hard to beat from a basketball perspective. Yes, the ACC has blue blood programs like UNC and Duke, but football still drives that conference as well. Excellent and impressive hire by Xavier!

IM4X
03-19-2022, 05:34 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9wxI4KK9ZYo


in honor of this perfect day.

X Factor
03-19-2022, 05:35 PM
I didn't think Christopher would or could do this!! What an amazing day for Xavier basketball!

HenryMuto
03-19-2022, 05:46 PM
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Caveat
03-19-2022, 05:53 PM
It’s pretty obvious that Miller has had his eye on Xavier for a while now.

Gives me confidence that he’s done his homework on our recruiting and will be ready to hit the ground running wither keeping the class together or moving on to guys he thinks he can grab via the portal.

OTRMUSKIE
03-19-2022, 05:56 PM
Do you even reach out to Steeles recruits or do you just assume they will be garbage and move on? Can't wait to see how kyky and free and jones do under a real coach .

JTG
03-19-2022, 05:58 PM
I could still see Free leaving once he finds out Miller won't put up with his shit. I would think everyone else might stay, unless a few are told to take their talents elsewhere ie: Hunter.

Caveat
03-19-2022, 05:59 PM
Do you even reach out to Steeles recruits or do you just assume they will be garbage and move on? Can't wait to see how kyky and free and jones do under a real coach .

Coaching and player development has been the problem the past 4 years.

The recruits have come highly regarded — they just haven’t gotten better and/or been put in positions to succeed while here. That’ll change quickly with Miller at the helm.

smileyy
03-19-2022, 06:01 PM
I can see Colby Jones really blossoming under Miller.

waggy
03-19-2022, 06:16 PM
Just awesome. Congrats to all involved. Great job Greg Christopher. Excited for what the future.

OTRMUSKIE
03-19-2022, 06:17 PM
So can he coach now?

XUOWNSUC
03-19-2022, 06:18 PM
Do you even reach out to Steeles recruits or do you just assume they will be garbage and move on? Can't wait to see how kyky and free and jones do under a real coach .

Not going to lie, I still hope Free is gone...

I would like everybody else to come back.

atljar
03-19-2022, 06:24 PM
Free is a good kid that just needs a little tough love....
https://ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/2018/02/sean.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1

IM4X
03-19-2022, 06:25 PM
I want Free to stay. He is a good kid from Jersey. He just needs a a better teacher of basketball. We now have that in place for him. If Free stays you will see a dramatic difference in him and all the other fellas who stay.


Stick around players and commits… stay at X as a family and you will be dancing for sure next year.

Masterofreality
03-19-2022, 06:31 PM
Amazingly enough this keeps the Incestuous Xavier coaching tree alive in succession!

LadyMuskie
03-19-2022, 06:40 PM
Just like the Renaissance removed the stain of the Dark Ages for humanity, Miller's Return shall erase the Era of Steele Decline for X fans. Time to rev up the Buick and Xip em up!

EastCoastXman
03-19-2022, 06:43 PM
"Send It In Jerome" For all you youngsters it's Billy Raftery with the call on the dish From Sean Miller to jerome Lane bringing down the backboard in the Old Big East. Famous dunk call!

Masterofreality
03-19-2022, 06:44 PM
Just like the Renaissance removed the stain of the Dark Ages for humanity, Miller's Return shall erase the Era of Steele Decline for X fans. Time to rev up the Buick and Xip em up!

Glad to see you back!!!

atljar
03-19-2022, 06:50 PM
And it's official : https://goxavier.com/news/2022/3/19/mens-basketball-sean-miller-returns-as-mens-head-basketball-coach-at-xavier-university.aspx

Masterofreality
03-19-2022, 06:56 PM
Can’t believe his oldest son Austin is 27 years old now, and that Sean is only 53. He was only 40 when he left here.
I remember speculation on boards that Austin could be a Xavier player someday.

xavierj
03-19-2022, 06:56 PM
Do you even reach out to Steeles recruits or do you just assume they will be garbage and move on? Can't wait to see how kyky and free and jones do under a real coach .

You absolutely reach out and hope they can keep them. Look at what some stud freshman did for Creighton. I think Craft and Ward are future pros. I mean both are tall and long athletes that can score. Would be huge if Sean can keep them. If not you will see them playing for blue bloods.

D-West & PO-Z
03-19-2022, 06:58 PM
Free is a good kid that just needs a little tough love....
https://ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/2018/02/sean.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1

The intensity and urgency on the sidelines from the head coach are by far the thing I am most excited for.

smileyy
03-19-2022, 06:59 PM
And it's official : https://goxavier.com/news/2022/3/19/mens-basketball-sean-miller-returns-as-mens-head-basketball-coach-at-xavier-university.aspx

Whoa, didn't expect the official announcement to be that fast.

SteveSpivery
03-19-2022, 07:02 PM
In a similar vein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkKLoNnsGS8

Xuperman
03-19-2022, 07:03 PM
Man......GREAT TO GO BIGTIME!!!

XUP is back!

:pointandlaugh::perfect10::popcorn::popcorn:

xuphan
03-19-2022, 07:05 PM
Exciting time to be a Xavier fan. I’m already pumped for next season.

ArizonaXUGrad
03-19-2022, 07:09 PM
I am surprised at the announcement. Yet excited, I think he hits our commits immediately. I think he got a raw deal in Tucson, and missed out on the team this season. Their loss is our gain. Claude isn’t his type of guard, if Ward and Craft are his players. I still think we see attrition but the future is bright.

GreatWhiteNorth
03-19-2022, 07:14 PM
Wow! What a beautiful day. Xavier is back on track and ready to roll. I think this deal has been worked out for days and Sean’s trips to SC was for the show. His heart has never really left Xavier. Welcome back coach. I still think it would be nice to keep Steele for recruiting. Look out Big East, we are back in business.

bobbiemcgee
03-19-2022, 07:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw8zpiNJMCY

JTG
03-19-2022, 07:17 PM
Steele could head to Butler. Word is they will have an opening soon.

joe titan
03-19-2022, 07:40 PM
I can see Colby Jones really blossoming under Miller.

Just show him some tapes of BJ Raymond.

xu82
03-19-2022, 07:58 PM
I can see Colby Jones really blossoming under Miller.

Absolutely! I love his ceiling! Sean can get him there!

xu82
03-19-2022, 08:01 PM
I want Free to stay. He is a good kid from Jersey. He just needs a a better teacher of basketball. We now have that in place for him. If Free stays you will see a dramatic difference in him and all the other fellas who stay.


Stick around players and commits… stay at X as a family and you will be dancing for sure next year.

Absolutely! These are great players and people, but they were not being developed to reach their potential. THAT WILL CHANGE.

xu82
03-19-2022, 08:03 PM
Just like the Renaissance removed the stain of the Dark Ages for humanity, Miller's Return shall erase the Era of Steele Decline for X fans. Time to rev up the Buick and Xip em up!

I echo MOR’s comment, welcome back! Good to hear from you!

bleedXblue
03-19-2022, 08:04 PM
I'm just very happy to not have to watch again what I watched for 4 straight years.

Welcome back Sean!

XUBison
03-19-2022, 08:10 PM
Time to get that flagship out of dry dock, we got our captain back!

This sums it up better than anything. Public and private.

xukeith
03-19-2022, 08:10 PM
Can’t believe his oldest son Austin is 27 years old now, and that Sean is only 53. He was only 40 when he left here.
I remember speculation on boards that Austin could be a Xavier player someday.

I imagine X over next 2-3 years will be top program in Ohio with recruits . Watch out Gonzaga and Nova, here comes X!

XUGRAD80
03-19-2022, 08:14 PM
What does it say to recruits when a coach, that was very successful at a school like Arizona, turns down a n SEC school and decides to return to X and the BEast? I think it says that you can accomplish all that you want to by coming to X. I now expect to see a landing top 50 recruits on a regular basis, to be challenging for BEast championships, and to be a fixture in the top 25 and in the sweet 16 and above of the NCAA tourney.

I couldn’t say any of that less than one week ago.

GoMuskies
03-19-2022, 08:25 PM
Steele could head to Butler. Word is they will have an opening soon.

I would not love Steele as someone's assistant at Butler. He'd make our life tough in recruiting. Particularly if Butler had a competent head coach.

Wish I could be at Cintas tomorrow. Should be a wild, fun scene.

waggy
03-19-2022, 08:36 PM
I would not love Steele as someone's assistant at Butler. He'd make our life tough in recruiting. Particularly if Butler had a competent head coach.

Wish I could be at Cintas tomorrow. Should be a wild, fun scene.

Unless he gets a head position he likes, he’ll end up in the BE somewhere.

JTG
03-19-2022, 08:44 PM
I would not love Steele as someone's assistant at Butler. He'd make our life tough in recruiting. Particularly if Butler had a competent head coach.

Wish I could be at Cintas tomorrow. Should be a wild, fun scene.

Butler still operates like they're in the Horizon. It's a tough place to recruit to. Their players are always short on talent, but usually smart. Makes for tough sledding in the BE.

OTRMUSKIE
03-19-2022, 08:46 PM
Is Miller going to be at the game tomorrow?

xu82
03-19-2022, 08:54 PM
I would not love Steele as someone's assistant at Butler. He'd make our life tough in recruiting. Particularly if Butler had a competent head coach.

Wish I could be at Cintas tomorrow. Should be a wild, fun scene.

I can’t say it’s realistic, or that he could swallow his pride, but if Steele is anywhere in the BE I’d like it to be recruiting for Sean Miller at Xavier. He relates to the kids, he just wast not ready for the top job and to develop them. It happens. Some people are just born to be a great #2, and some eventually grow into the #1 spot, in all fields.

Backyard Champ
03-19-2022, 09:04 PM
I know I know, but I think if we were in the A10 Steele could have worked out. I absolutely think he could coach and grow a mid major school, and become a high major coach in the future.

You don’t get a lot of time to learn in the Big East. I appreciate his efforts. There is no doubt he loves Xavier basketball

smileyy
03-19-2022, 09:12 PM
Lack of success and player development in the A-10 while have been death for the program

Backyard Champ
03-19-2022, 09:13 PM
I think you have more opportunities at player development to be honest. More times you’re blowing out a team and rotational players get more minutes.

I’m not arguing that Xavier should Be in the A10, just that it’s a far easier place to take over for a first time head coach than Big East.

smileyy
03-19-2022, 09:25 PM
That assumes that Steele would (1) blow out A-10 teams, and (2) develop players. He couldn't even develop his starters as far as I can tell.

ArizonaXUGrad
03-19-2022, 09:29 PM
Steele will take a year off and be coaching at a smaller school.

Backyard Champ
03-19-2022, 09:30 PM
That assumes that Steele would (1) blow out A-10 teams, and (2) develop players. He couldn't even develop his starters as far as I can tell.

Fair enough you’re not a Steele guy. I was ready to move on as well. But strange that you can’t comprehend how it would be more difficult as a first year coach to be in the Big East vs the A10.

It should be easy to admit that Sean and Chris had easier paths to grow as coaches.

bobbiemcgee
03-19-2022, 09:35 PM
Is Miller going to be at the game tomorrow?

No. Press conf next week sometime.

paulxu
03-19-2022, 09:37 PM
Could be in the upper stands staying anonymous with a bag over his head, like the other day?

Backyard Champ
03-19-2022, 09:38 PM
Could be in the upper stands staying anonymous with a bag over his head, like the other day?

A++

That guy is a Xavier legend

American X
03-19-2022, 09:43 PM
Welcome home, Coach Miller!

I put on a white dress shirt and turned up the thermostat to 90 to celebrate!

xuphan
03-19-2022, 09:48 PM
Fair enough you’re not a Steele guy. I was ready to move on as well. But strange that you can’t comprehend how it would be more difficult as a first year coach to be in the Big East vs the A10.

It should be easy to admit that Sean and Chris had easier paths to grow as coaches.

I wish Travis nothing but the best as he did a lot of positives for this program. I will say that he needs to be more adaptable when/if he get another head coaching job. The last four years showed that he was stuck in his ways about how he wanted his team to play and not adapting to the strengths of his players or how other teams matched up. His end of season stumps were a result of his unwillingness to change his coaching philosophy and teams took advantage of that. To say that he goes to a mid major and wins big with any team he coaches is a load of nonsense. Travis is a really nice guy and we wish him all the best but his coaching weaknesses at Xavier will also follow him wherever he may coach at next until he fixes them. He is a good recruiter but needs to adapt his coaching style to help his team win. It’s all about winning and not about winning the Travis way. If he can not learn to adapt, he will continue to struggle as a head coach.

xu82
03-19-2022, 09:50 PM
Welcome home, Coach Miller!

I put on a white dress shirt and turned up the thermostat to 90 to celebrate!

Amateur move. Sorry. I think you’ll need an actual sauna to get it right.

Blue Blooded-05
03-19-2022, 10:02 PM
#SavedTheProgram

Jehoya
03-19-2022, 10:26 PM
Anybody know how much Millers contract ended up being? Six years, but did X get to 3 million a year for him?

XU-PA
03-19-2022, 10:29 PM
Anybody know how much Millers contract ended up being? Six years, but did X get to 3 million a year for him?

6 years, roughly 4 million per

markchal
03-19-2022, 10:30 PM
I wish Travis nothing but the best as he did a lot of positives for this program. I will say that he needs to be more adaptable when/if he get another head coaching job. The last four years showed that he was stuck in his ways about how he wanted his team to play and not adapting to the strengths of his players or how other teams matched up. His end of season stumps were a result of his unwillingness to change his coaching philosophy and teams took advantage of that. To say that he goes to a mid major and wins big with any team he coaches is a load of nonsense. Travis is a really nice guy and we wish him all the best but his coaching weaknesses at Xavier will also follow him wherever he may coach at next until he fixes them. He is a good recruiter but needs to adapt his coaching style to help his team win. It’s all about winning and not about winning the Travis way. If he can not learn to adapt, he will continue to struggle as a head coach.

I think we got lucky that Mack and Miller figured things out pretty quick (relatively speaking) learning on the job. Steele ABSOLUTELY had a tougher start than his predecessors, as the BE is no A10. And I definitely could see Steele succeeding as a HC somewhere eventually. The guy knows basketball and was a tremendous recruiter, just has more to learn about being the top guy. It's not like we were horrible, he had some nice wins here and some good non-con showings. It's not like he was a disaster, it's just that he was mediocre (which is almost more dangerous).

He gave a lot to Xavier over his decade plus, and I'll be rooting for him wherever he goes next (Just as I did for Chris Mack and Sean Miller)

XUBison
03-19-2022, 10:32 PM
Amateur move. Sorry. I think you’ll need an actual sauna to get it right.

Now do it with a hoodie.

ZONACAT
03-19-2022, 10:37 PM
Great hire. Really happy for Sean and Amy.

On the sanctions, what was reported by ESPN ended up not being in the court cases or the NOA. The Ayton "payment" never happened and the NCAA and Feds agree on that. The only level one charge Sean got was failure to control Book, that is it. I would not expect a show clause or anything significant. Maybe a fine and a few games similar to what Pearl received.

The investigation has been dragging on for four years but Sean did an admirable job keeping the program afloat with the NCAA gun pointed at his head. The fall off in talent was immediate but 2022 Arizona is Sean's team. He didn't get to coach them and Lloyd has done a great job with the group, but considering the world of recruiting, Sean putting this team together is unreal and shows his ability to adapt to tough situations. I am happy he got the year off to recharge but sad he didn't get to lead this group, he would have won a ton of games.

Arizona owes Sean a debt of gratitude for leading the program beyond Lute to the heights it is currently at. I say all of that to say this, Sean is going to have Xavier back to being a monster again and we will meet in the tournament.

xukeith
03-19-2022, 10:39 PM
Isn't Miller now XU's basketball head coach?
Does he meet the players and let Hayes coach tomorrow?

MHettel
03-19-2022, 10:51 PM
I think we got lucky that Mack and Miller figured things out pretty quick (relatively speaking) learning on the job. Steele ABSOLUTELY had a tougher start than his predecessors, as the BE is no A10. And I definitely could see Steele succeeding as a HC somewhere eventually. The guy knows basketball and was a tremendous recruiter, just has more to learn about being the top guy. It's not like we were horrible, he had some nice wins here and some good non-con showings. It's not like he was a disaster, it's just that he was mediocre (which is almost more dangerous).

He gave a lot to Xavier over his decade plus, and I'll be rooting for him wherever he goes next (Just as I did for Chris Mack and Sean Miller)

I have some disagreement here. Steele had one year to watch Miller, and was able to witness how Mack handled a transition. And Mack had like 2-3 "waves" of talent come through. Mack had 9 different teams and adjusted the style to the personnel. Travis transitioned into the BE WITH Xavier. He was a successful coach IN the BE with a guy (MACK) that never was a BE coach before....

Steele had everything at his disposal to be ready to coach in the BE. The thing that WAS in his control was to implement a system that match his personnel. He didnt succeed because of things in his control. Unfortunate, but true.

xu82
03-19-2022, 10:52 PM
Now do it with a hoodie.

I used to hit tennis balls all summer with a guy here in Atlanta all summer, Monday thru Friday. He wore sweats to cover a knee brace, a hoodie with the hood up, and sunglasses. AMAZING athlete. Drafted by the Pirates for baseball, his brother was a great RB at Georgia Tech.

He was an electrician and came to my house to help me fix a problem and I saw the real him. I told him it was the first time, after several years, that I could actually pick him out of a lineup! HA! It was true!

xu82
03-19-2022, 10:57 PM
Great hire. Really happy for Sean and Amy.

On the sanctions, what was reported by ESPN ended up not being in the court cases or the NOA. The Ayton "payment" never happened and the NCAA and Feds agree on that. The only level one charge Sean got was failure to control Book, that is it. I would not expect a show clause or anything significant. Maybe a fine and a few games similar to what Pearl received.

The investigation has been dragging on for four years but Sean did an admirable job keeping the program afloat with the NCAA gun pointed at his head. The fall off in talent was immediate but 2022 Arizona is Sean's team. He didn't get to coach them and Lloyd has done a great job with the group, but considering the world of recruiting, Sean putting this team together is unreal and shows his ability to adapt to tough situations. I am happy he got the year off to recharge but sad he didn't get to lead this group, he would have won a ton of games.

Arizona owes Sean a debt of gratitude for leading the program beyond Lute to the heights it is currently at. I say all of that to say this, Sean is going to have Xavier back to being a monster again and we will meet in the tournament.

Thank you for that input. It’s always nice to hear from different perspectives.

I’m excited.

D-West & PO-Z
03-19-2022, 11:17 PM
I have heard Sean has quite the overseas talent connection. That could be a nice addition to Xavier's roster. Did he have many overseas players at AZ?

waggy
03-19-2022, 11:20 PM
Can’t imagine the stress Sean was under at Arizona with all the crap that went down. Thanks for posting Zonacat.

xu82
03-19-2022, 11:20 PM
I have heard Sean has quite the overseas talent connection. That could be a nice addition to Xavier's roster. Did he have many overseas players at AZ?

I think Oktoberfest in Cincinnati might be a big draw. I always had fun!

usfldan
03-20-2022, 12:29 AM
I have heard Sean has quite the overseas talent connection. That could be a nice addition to Xavier's roster. Did he have many overseas players at AZ?

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketball/2020/4/18/21226586/arizona-basketball-international-players-kerr-kriisa-recruiting-sean-miller-foreign

D-West & PO-Z
03-20-2022, 12:52 AM
https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketball/2020/4/18/21226586/arizona-basketball-international-players-kerr-kriisa-recruiting-sean-miller-foreign

Good find, thanks.

So so big hits but a lot of misses. Either way, should open another area for recruiting for X.

UCGRAD4X
03-20-2022, 07:48 AM
https://youtu.be/yOL-EJZjmp0


Greg Christopher

....with just one hire!

SCMuskie
03-20-2022, 09:38 AM
Super excited for this hire. Glad X was able to beat out the Gamecocks for Sean. Gonna be a fun week for me rubbing that in.

Masterofreality
03-20-2022, 03:47 PM
https://youtu.be/yOL-EJZjmp0


Greg Christopher

....with just one hire!


I think Greg is done hiring rookie coaches. He's learned some lessons.
He told me directly when the Golf Coach replacement process was ongoing that he had been given the green light and intended to only interview experienced Head Coaches- and he did so with Brian Arlinghaus and now Sean. He's been burned too many times.
The Soccer Head Coach pick will be interesting.

xukeith
03-20-2022, 05:11 PM
That email campaign went remarkably well. Should we strike while the iron is hot and get Christopher to save the women's team?

noteggs
03-20-2022, 06:51 PM
Only downside of Miller’s hire is I have an old basketball that Sean signed “Let’s go X” before he left. Bought it at fundraiser auction. Was hoping it would be worth something if he won a NC somewhere else. Oh well I’ll take one for the team when he wins it here…sigh

xu82
03-20-2022, 07:26 PM
Only downside of Miller’s hire is I have an old basketball that Sean signed “Let’s go X” before he left. Bought it at fundraiser auction. Was hoping it would be worth something if he won a NC somewhere else. Oh well I’ll take one for the team when he wins it here…sigh

WHEN we win a National Championship, I will send a sympathy card and a $10 voucher for Dana’s. Does that help?

noteggs
03-20-2022, 07:40 PM
WHEN we win a National Championship, I will send a sympathy card and a $10 voucher for Dana’s. Does that help?

Absolutely. However, only if BJ will match your $10!

bjf123
03-20-2022, 08:22 PM
Only downside of Miller’s hire is I have an old basketball that Sean signed “Let’s go X” before he left. Bought it at fundraiser auction. Was hoping it would be worth something if he won a NC somewhere else. Oh well I’ll take one for the team when he wins it here…sigh

I’ve got one that a friend got for me at a charity fundraiser. Since then, I was able to get Chris Mack and Byron Larkin to sign it.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220321/179d8d816ff467daf6c6c622a7b85592.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

xukeith
03-20-2022, 08:31 PM
Here is a Aaron Torres podcast with Sean Miller this past February. He speaks about life living with no coaching bball. He mentions Xavier a couple times. Check out minute 25-31. He opens up about his life and what is mission is for whatever school would hire him.

It is very exciting hearing Miller plan on being the absolute best coach in his next job.....and it is here at X.

He may repeat this stuff at his press conference this week.

He is one hell of a leader..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buk3GYLPscQ

noteggs
03-20-2022, 09:00 PM
I’ve got one that a friend got for me at a charity fundraiser. Since then, I was able to get Chris Mack and Byron Larkin to sign it.

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Very cool, but your Sister Rose Ann bobble head takes the cake!

bjf123
03-20-2022, 09:44 PM
Very cool, but your Sister Rose Ann bobble head takes the cake!

What you can’t really see is the Pete Gillian bobble head behind Byron and the Chris Mack bobble head behind Sister Rose Ann.


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X Factor
03-20-2022, 10:15 PM
Here is a Aaron Torres podcast with Sean Miller this past February. He speaks about life living with no coaching bball. He mentions Xavier a couple times. Check out minute 25-31. He opens up about his life and what is mission is for whatever school would hire him.

It is very exciting hearing Miller plan on being the absolute best coach in his next job.....and it is here at X.

He may repeat this stuff at his press conference this week.

He is one hell of a leader..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buk3GYLPscQ

Love hearing Sean say when his time comes, he'll be ready and it will be the best version of him.

I'm pumped!!!!

94GRAD
03-21-2022, 11:54 AM
Absolutely. However, only if BJ will match your $10!

Consider it MATCHED!

IM4X
03-21-2022, 12:50 PM
Here is a Aaron Torres podcast with Sean Miller this past February. He speaks about life living with no coaching bball. He mentions Xavier a couple times. Check out minute 25-31. He opens up about his life and what is mission is for whatever school would hire him.

It is very exciting hearing Miller plan on being the absolute best coach in his next job.....and it is here at X.

He may repeat this stuff at his press conference this week.

He is one hell of a leader..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buk3GYLPscQ

thanks for sharing the link.

He mentions X program aground 13.45

IM4X
03-21-2022, 01:02 PM
I’ve got one that a friend got for me at a charity fundraiser. Since then, I was able to get Chris Mack and Byron Larkin to sign it.

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Nice. Agree about Sister Rose Ann’s bobble head. Love it.

I received a BBall signed by Gillen after winning an X halftime 3 point shooting contest (actually all of the contestants got one). Then I ended up needing a basketball one day and started playing with it and the signature came off. Oh well. I never was good at being a collector of memorabilia.

I was really excited when they handed the signed ball to me. I was feeling special until I turned around and saw them giving signed balls to the other two contestants too. I was thinking, “Well that sucks. I blew off classes today to practice and make sure I could win this thing and then when I do win it… everyone gets the same damn thing.”

paulxu
03-21-2022, 02:57 PM
Nice. Agree about Sister Rose An’s bobble head. Love it.

I received a BBall signed by Gillen after winning an X halftime 3 point shooting contest (actually all of the contestants got one). Then I ended up needing a basketball one day and started playing with it and the signature came off. Oh well. I never was good at being a collector of memorabilia.

I was really excited when they handed the signed ball to me. I was feeling special until I turned around ans saw them giving signed balls to the other two contestants too. . I was thinking, “Well that sucks. I blew off classes today to practice and make sure I could win this thing and then when I do win it… everyone gets the same damn thing.”

Participation trophy ball?

SemajParlor
03-21-2022, 08:31 PM
Travis Steele got fired 5 days ago. It does not feel like 5 days ago.

IM4X
03-21-2022, 11:15 PM
Participation trophy ball?

Yep. No disrespect to Pete, but I think subconsciously that’s why I just went out and played with the ball instead of keeping it protected in some kind of display case.

D-West & PO-Z
03-22-2022, 12:06 AM
Travis Steele got fired 5 days ago. It does not feel like 5 days ago.

So true. Feels like weeks.

OTRMUSKIE
03-22-2022, 12:33 AM
When I first saw that picture of your bobble heads I thought he must be a Brewers fan or Mr Belvedere fan bc he has a Bob Uecker bobble head. Much to my surprise it turns out it's sister Roseanne Fleming.

xuphan
03-23-2022, 06:46 AM
Not surprising from Paul Finebaum.

https://247sports.com/college/xavier/Article/Sean-Miller-hiring-at-Xavier-receives-commentary-from-Paul-Finebaum-184961215/

UCGRAD4X
03-23-2022, 07:05 AM
Not surprising from Paul Finebaum.

https://247sports.com/college/xavier/Article/Sean-Miller-hiring-at-Xavier-receives-commentary-from-Paul-Finebaum-184961215/

Without presenting a shred of evidence, not even mentioning the "He should have known mantra."

I think that is a weak argument anyway since it involved parties outside of the program and university and I'm not sure how it affects the players decision to commit (unless I missed that tidbit). It only really seems to have benefitted Book.

The "everybody does it" is also weak and actually makes it less of a 'crime' since, well, everybody does it!

xukeith
03-23-2022, 03:44 PM
Miller press conference scheduled at Cintas 1:30pm Friday.
X is inviting anyone to come. Free pizza for students and a raffle.

Xuperman
03-24-2022, 01:22 AM
Here's a real "fun fact" list.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/leaders/win-loss-pct-coach-career.html

We are in good hands!
:drinks:

xudash
03-24-2022, 02:23 PM
A coach's job is to expect more from a player than they expect from themself, to push a player to the point of discomfort because life is often uncomfortable and comfort isn't always a viable strategy to deal with adversity.

That is the first line in today's article about Sean Miller from the Cincy paper (https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/xaviersports/2022/03/24/former-xavier-players-discuss-what-its-like-playing-sean-miller/9454014002/)

The article is titled:'Run through a brick wall': Former Xavier players discuss playing for Sean Miller

Two things:

1. IMHO, it hits the nail on the head when it comes to the essence of his success; and

2. It is the EXACT trait that Steele seemed to lack.

I'm am telling you now and I'll probably tell you again: Sean Miller was an intense beast of a player. He got that growing up from his father. HE PLAYED THE F'ING GAME! He knows what it takes to get every ounce out of his roster.

I can't believe we have to wait over 7 months until we begin to watch the magic happen.

And I'm not trying to be overly giddy about all this. I believe he is going to make that much of a difference.

xudash
03-24-2022, 02:30 PM
I want to be careful about sharing material here, but I found this fascinating from that article:

"I want to make sure that I say this ... me being excited about Miller coming back has nothing to do with Steele leaving, they're mutually exclusive events," said Frease. "I've always thought Steele was a great coach and if you talk to anybody that played for him, player development-wise, I don't know that there's anybody better.

"... You'd hear that from Mark (Lyons), Tu (Holloway), J-Craw (Jordan Crawford), I think if you'd talk to any of them they would be the first people to say his player development, his workouts, the things he did for guys, you knew he was always 100% in trying to get people better."

These are former players making these statements. We thought Steele was bad at player development. Now we have former players blasting that perception to hell. Very interesting.

Xville
03-24-2022, 03:01 PM
I want to be careful about sharing material here, but I found this fascinating from that article:

"I want to make sure that I say this ... me being excited about Miller coming back has nothing to do with Steele leaving, they're mutually exclusive events," said Frease. "I've always thought Steele was a great coach and if you talk to anybody that played for him, player development-wise, I don't know that there's anybody better.

"... You'd hear that from Mark (Lyons), Tu (Holloway), J-Craw (Jordan Crawford), I think if you'd talk to any of them they would be the first people to say his player development, his workouts, the things he did for guys, you knew he was always 100% in trying to get people better."

These are former players making these statements. We thought Steele was bad at player development. Now we have former players blasting that perception to hell. Very interesting.

Here's what I'll say about that. The results are the results with him as a head coach, they can say whatever they want but that doesn't make it true. I haven't seen one player get better in the last four years. Maybe he was good as an assistant where he could focus on one thing. Some aren't meant for the big chair, and I think that's the case with Steele

xukeith
03-24-2022, 03:03 PM
I want to be careful about sharing material here, but I found this fascinating from that article:

"I want to make sure that I say this ... me being excited about Miller coming back has nothing to do with Steele leaving, they're mutually exclusive events," said Frease. "I've always thought Steele was a great coach and if you talk to anybody that played for him, player development-wise, I don't know that there's anybody better.

"... You'd hear that from Mark (Lyons), Tu (Holloway), J-Craw (Jordan Crawford), I think if you'd talk to any of them they would be the first people to say his player development, his workouts, the things he did for guys, you knew he was always 100% in trying to get people better."

These are former players making these statements. We thought Steele was bad at player development. Now we have former players blasting that perception to hell. Very interesting.

It comes down to only wins and losses.

Win more, praises happen.
Lose more, no sense of worth exists.

atljar
03-24-2022, 03:14 PM
I never doubted Steele's effort, or thought he wasnt trying. And never doubted he was 100% trying to get players better.

It was only the effectiveness of his efforts that I ever questioned

American X
03-24-2022, 05:08 PM
(https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/xaviersports/2022/03/24/former-xavier-players-discuss-what-its-like-playing-sean-miller/9454014002/)

The article is titled:'Run through a brick wall': Former Xavier players discuss playing for Sean Miller

What an excellent article. Key quotes:

"He's somebody that really understands what it is to be a college basketball player, the struggles that you go through. Being able to have a coach that you know always 100% has your back, it takes a lot of the pressure out of the situation even if he doesn't realize that he's doing it." - Kenny Frease

Justin Doellman said Miller's a natural-born leader. "I think that goes back to him being a point guard as a player and kind of directing and orchestrating the team," said Doellman (2003-07). "And then him as a coach, it's very similar because he commands respect. As a player following him, you're willing to do whatever he asks, just from his intensity standpoint, and the fact that he has an infinite wisdom of the game that you just know if you do what he's asking you to do, you'll be successful."

joe titan
03-24-2022, 05:14 PM
Here's what I'll say about that. The results are the results with him as a head coach, they can say whatever they want but that doesn't make it true. I haven't seen one player get better in the last four years. Maybe he was good as an assistant where he could focus on one thing. Some aren't meant for the big chair, and I think that's the case with Steele

Without disagreeing with the premise, surely Freemantle improved from Fr to Soph (this year can be seen otherwise), Odom has shown real strides as PG & decision making, and Colby Jones has taken forward steps especially defensively.

xu82
03-24-2022, 05:27 PM
Without disagreeing with the premise, surely Freemantle improved from Fr to Soph (this year can be seen otherwise), Odom has shown real strides as PG & decision making, and Colby Jones has taken forward steps especially defensively.

I can’t say nobody is better at anything, but it surely is NOT what it needed to be. Our guys will be much better off with Sean in charge.

bjf123
03-24-2022, 06:33 PM
I never doubted Steele's effort, or thought he wasnt trying. And never doubted he was 100% trying to get players better.

It was only the effectiveness of his efforts that I ever questioned

Sums it up nicely.


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drudy23
03-24-2022, 08:21 PM
I thought Adam Baum's article today where he interviewed past players was a good piece. There was the obvious appreciation for Miller as a coach and a leader, but I also thought the quotes they had about Steele were very telling.

All of the players praised Steele's basketball workouts and his ability to develop guys. They all thought he was one of the best developers of talent that ever coached them.

It's tough to make the move to the big chair. It's a completely different job. I know the Xavier administration calls it a CEO job, and it really is. Steele was likely one of those guys who excels in the details and the weeds, but struggles to step back to see the big picture and long term focus.

It makes you wonder if the current staff lacks what Steele had as an assistant, or if Steele was simply trying to do too much and not listening or delegating.

IM4X
03-24-2022, 10:41 PM
Here's a real "fun fact" list.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/leaders/win-loss-pct-coach-career.html

We are in good hands!
:drinks:


Thanks for posting Xuperman!

Not too shabby. He’s got the best overall record out of all the BE coaches (even Wright). Now Sean just needs to win a few National Championships at X like Jay has done at Nova.

Maybe I missed someone, but it seems like Shaka and Wright are the only other two coaches on the list from the Big East.

IM4X
03-24-2022, 11:00 PM
I never doubted Steele's effort, or thought he wasnt trying. And never doubted he was 100% trying to get players better.

It was only the effectiveness of his efforts that I ever questioned

Exactly. The effectiveness of his approach and not the effort given to his approach. ItÂ’s nit just about working hard. ItÂ’s about being smart enough to know not only when certain things are not working well but how to make the changes that do make those things working better.

Xuperman
03-24-2022, 11:28 PM
Thanks for posting Xuperman!

Not too shabby. He’s got the best overall record out of all the BE coaches (even Wright). Now Sean just needs to win a few National Championships at X like Jay has done at Nova.

Maybe I missed someone, but it seems like Shaka and Wright are the only other two coaches on the list from the Big East.

I know.

He's 34TH ALL TIME!

The enormity of that fact is hard to wrap your mind around. I take great enjoyment looking at the guys below him.
:read:

principal
03-30-2022, 11:09 PM
For those concerned about what is in store for Miller in regards to the NCAA violations, here is a snippet from a SC website which confirms what has been said by others here:

https://www.postandcourier.com/gamecocks_now/sean-gone/article_7db69bc8-b02d-11ec-9b49-3f9f00df19b7.html

“The Gamecocks’ package to Miller, I am told, was far better financially than what Xavier offered (some reports had $1.5 million; I was never told that from any of my people, but I was told “seven figures”). Just the fact that they were willing to talk to him, and that senior deputy athletics director Chance Miller was largely involved with the process and he has a background in NCAA enforcement, tells me that any future punishment Miller might receive due to the FBI investigation at Arizona is probably going to be sparse.”

Prin

American X
03-19-2023, 11:26 AM
One year ago today Sean Miller returned. Now facing his alma mater to return to the Sweet Sixteen. Complete the circle.

waggy
03-19-2023, 03:59 PM
Thank you Sean Miller

XUOWNSUC
03-19-2023, 04:27 PM
Thank God Greg Christopher had the balls to actually make the move to hire Miller. Best coach Xavier had ever had!

D-West & PO-Z
03-19-2023, 04:49 PM
Xavier got their revenge on Pitt in the NCAA tourney the next year, Miller was gone, glad he finally got his revenge as a the head coach of X!

Miller Time baby!

drudy23
03-19-2023, 05:37 PM
I guess I can officially put my Tin Man hate to rest. What a difference a year (5 years) makes.

zanesxu
03-19-2023, 05:49 PM
Thank God Brian Christopher had the balls to actually make the move to hire Miller. Best coach Xavier had ever had!

*Greg Christopher - chalk it up to sweet 16 fever though!

And let's not forget Dr. Colleen Hanycz... she most certainly had something to say in this

Blue Blooded-05
03-19-2023, 07:17 PM
Xavier is 31-9 since Steele was fired. The prior 40 games: 21-19.

D-West & PO-Z
03-19-2023, 09:29 PM
Xavier is 31-9 since Steele was fired. The prior 40 games: 21-19.

What a stat. Not a coincidence either.

BandAid
03-19-2023, 09:42 PM
Xavier is 31-9 since Steele was fired. The prior 40 games: 21-19.

And that 31-9 also includes an NIT tourney ‘ship (consolation prize) and a Sweet Sixteen (an actual prize)

American X
03-20-2023, 08:26 AM
Sean Miller has led Xavier to three straight Sweet Sixteens.

webxu
03-20-2023, 08:35 AM
Sean Miller has led Xavier to three straight Sweet Sixteens.

His last 4 years coaching at X

25 wins
30 wins
27 wins
27 wins and counting..

XUGRAD80
03-20-2023, 10:48 AM
His last 4 years coaching at X

25 wins
30 wins
27 wins
27 wins and counting..


We could get used to this, right? :yahoo:

But I think it’s also important that we never take success for granted. If the last 4 years have taught us anything they should have taught us that. One day Miller will no longer be the coach (hopefully MANY years from now) and it’s important that he be replaced with the correct person when that happens. Meanwhile, let’s enjoy it while it lasts!

xavbball
03-20-2023, 12:14 PM
We could get used to this, right? :yahoo:

But I think it’s also important that we never take success for granted. If the last 4 years have taught us anything they should have taught us that. One day Miller will no longer be the coach (hopefully MANY years from now) and it’s important that he be replaced with the correct person when that happens. Meanwhile, let’s enjoy it while it lasts!

Exactly. Just enjoy it and don't take it for granted. I remember visiting the Villanova board a couple of years ago, and several of their fans were complaining about how BE play became "boring" because they always won so much. A coach change, and suddenly it's finishing in the bottom half of the conference. We learned how life is when missing the tournament for years and watching others play meaningful games. Cherish your great seasons because sustaining success isn't easy.

bjf123
03-20-2023, 07:23 PM
Copied from Lance McAllister on Facebook. Think he hits the nail on the head.

The return of Xavier basketball:

Yesterday was the one year anniversary of the return of Sean Miller to Xavier University.

365 days ago Xavier basketball also returned.

To understand all that Miller has accomplished since March 19, 2022 takes an understanding of how far Xavier basketball had fallen over the previous four seasons.

After making the tournament 16 of the previous 18 seasons, Xavier had missed the tournament four consecutive years prior to Miller's return.

XU basketball, the most consistent winner in the city over the last 40+ years, had become a shell of itself and a non-factor in March.

XU had become a victim of slippage, coaching slippage.
The four decade chain of successful coaching hires had finally been broken. After Bob Staak, Pete Gillen, Skip Prosser, Thad Matta, Sean Miller 1st time and Chris Mack it was bound to happen.

In four seasons under Travis Steele, who is an incredibly nice guy and someone I wish the best at Miami, XU went 70-50.
Yea, XU kept winning under Steele, but it always felt like there should have been more, much more. More from the coach, more from the players.

In the four previous season, the Musketeers suffered years with 13-8-13-16 losses. They didn’t produce a winning Big East record over four consecutive seasons….posting three losing seasons and a .500 season: 8-11, 6-7, 8-10, 9-9. In that span, Xavier went 1-4 in Big East tournament games, losing their first game three times…..losing to Butler twice and DePaul once.

Too often it felt like Xavier was bound to lose the X & O match up over a 40 minute game. Too often you wondered who was in charge. Too often ‘team’ felt like individuals.

Then, March 19, 2022, it became Miller time, again. He brought immediate credibility and experience. He's a winner with a steely eyed edge to him. He restored order and brought toughness back to Xavier. His presence demanded instant respect from players, opposing coaches and referees.

Yea, he returned with an NCAA infractions cloud over his head. But, whether his critics like it or not, that cloud is now clear skies and sunshine.

Miller made on court and off court nonsense unacceptable. He raised the standard of what was previously expected, to what is now demanded.

He’s made players better. He made them prepared. He provided the ability to adjust on the fly and the confidence to win close games.

This isn't breaking news. Anyone who knew basketball knew Miller would win again.

One year to the day, 365 days later, Miller has XU back in the Sweet 16 for the first time since 2017.

If he did this in one year, think of what Miller will do in the years to come.


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xukeith
03-20-2023, 08:21 PM
Field of 68 discussing Cooley hiring at Georgetown and SJU hiring Pitino. They say top 6 BE jobs are in no order are Nova, Marquette, UConn, Georgetown , Creighton , Xavier. I guess Hoyas can pay a boatload of $ to Cooley.

waggy
03-21-2023, 07:02 AM
The DePaul arena looked very nice on TV.

atljar
03-21-2023, 10:28 AM
The DePaul arena looked very nice on TV.

You surely get a good view of the seats (Themselves, bare without bodies in them)

Wheelhouse
03-21-2023, 10:46 AM
Copied from Lance McAllister on Facebook. Think he hits the nail on the head.

The return of Xavier basketball:

Yesterday was the one year anniversary of the return of Sean Miller to Xavier University.

365 days ago Xavier basketball also returned.

To understand all that Miller has accomplished since March 19, 2022 takes an understanding of how far Xavier basketball had fallen over the previous four seasons.

After making the tournament 16 of the previous 18 seasons, Xavier had missed the tournament four consecutive years prior to Miller's return.

XU basketball, the most consistent winner in the city over the last 40+ years, had become a shell of itself and a non-factor in March.

XU had become a victim of slippage, coaching slippage.
The four decade chain of successful coaching hires had finally been broken. After Bob Staak, Pete Gillen, Skip Prosser, Thad Matta, Sean Miller 1st time and Chris Mack it was bound to happen.

In four seasons under Travis Steele, who is an incredibly nice guy and someone I wish the best at Miami, XU went 70-50.
Yea, XU kept winning under Steele, but it always felt like there should have been more, much more. More from the coach, more from the players.

In the four previous season, the Musketeers suffered years with 13-8-13-16 losses. They didn’t produce a winning Big East record over four consecutive seasons….posting three losing seasons and a .500 season: 8-11, 6-7, 8-10, 9-9. In that span, Xavier went 1-4 in Big East tournament games, losing their first game three times…..losing to Butler twice and DePaul once.

Too often it felt like Xavier was bound to lose the X & O match up over a 40 minute game. Too often you wondered who was in charge. Too often ‘team’ felt like individuals.

Then, March 19, 2022, it became Miller time, again. He brought immediate credibility and experience. He's a winner with a steely eyed edge to him. He restored order and brought toughness back to Xavier. His presence demanded instant respect from players, opposing coaches and referees.

Yea, he returned with an NCAA infractions cloud over his head. But, whether his critics like it or not, that cloud is now clear skies and sunshine.

Miller made on court and off court nonsense unacceptable. He raised the standard of what was previously expected, to what is now demanded.

He’s made players better. He made them prepared. He provided the ability to adjust on the fly and the confidence to win close games.

This isn't breaking news. Anyone who knew basketball knew Miller would win again.

One year to the day, 365 days later, Miller has XU back in the Sweet 16 for the first time since 2017.

If he did this in one year, think of what Miller will do in the years to come.


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Absolutely nailed it.

waggy
01-14-2024, 12:51 PM
Humorous encounter with an Arizona fan couple at sports bar yesterday while waiting for dolphins chiefs. The Arizona Washington State game was ending and the Washington big kept scoring…. Told them I’m X/miller fan. The wife says they’re big miller fans too, but hubby wasn’t in the mood for any miller love as the cards are going down. Wished them well when they headed out.