#MillerTime

[bjf123]

His wife supposedly loves Cincinnati. If true, that’s got to help our cause.


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[D-West & PO-Z]

If firing him now wasn’t to make a push for Sean then I’d disagree with the timing. Either do it before NIT and don’t accept bid or do it before and say after season parting ways. This seems too abrupt if it wasn’t a ploy to get Sean

It was absoultely to get Sean. I guess the question for some is was it worth the shot to do thhis to Steele this way even if you weren't sure you could get Sean? I say yes worth the shot, however, it will be completely evident that you didn't get your first choice if it isn't Sean. There will be no hiding that.

Steele had to go either way. Christopher did the right thing. It just will be somewhat deflating at this point if it isn't Miller.

[XUBANDGRAD]

https://mobile.twitter.com/sir12301/status/1504501038853857292

This guy seems confident it’s South Carolina.

[murray87]

And I'm confident it will be Xavier so he's cancelled out.

[Dblue]

To claim the delay was a result of negotiations on contract length sounds like he's not been paying attention over the past 24 hours!

[SemajParlor]

FWIW The South Carolina board seems to think they've got him. Including the moderator.

[Xavier]

I heard that too. They are very confident…i guess it’s obviously possible just seems like a downgrade. Only a money move, but if it’s a ton then what are you going to do

[Caveat]

FWIW The South Carolina board seems to think they've got him. Including the moderator.

Disappointing, as Miller would've been a quicker fix than hiring someone from a mid-major program who will need time to step up in weight class for recruiting.

Firing Steele now is/was still the right move.

[SM#24]

There is a third school in the south CHOMPING for Miller as well that might complicate things as well.

I've heard the same thing about money. At this point, the choice for Miller is where does he want to coach and live. He knows this city, he knows this school, and he knows he'll get a way longer rope to build things here than he will in Carolina or elsewhere. On the other hand, he's almost certainly going to make more money going someplace else.

He's just gotta make a life decision here and then everyone can move on.
I don't think this is true.

[Masterofreality]

Zero Dark 30 today from all sides.
Lips are zipped up. :-(

[boozehound]

I heard that too. They are very confident…i guess it’s obviously possible just seems like a downgrade. Only a money move, but if it’s a ton then what are you going to do

SC must be throwing stupid money at him, particularly if the rumors of interest from Florida are true. That just doesn't seem like a very good job. I get not going to Xavier because you want $5M per year from a football school and we can't match it, but feels like he could to better than South Carolina. Maybe not though?

For the record: IF it takes $4MM to $5MM to get Sean to Xavier, I'm not sure I think he's necessarily worth that. Especially at the end of his career with some baggage. Even if Xavier found a way to pay that, they would essentially be locked in to him forever. His results at AZ were good, but it wasn't that good.

[Caveat]

I don't think this is true.

Xavier doesn't have the cash to eat contracts on a regular basis, especially not the contract I'm hearing they offered Miller. That's not the case in the SEC.

[noteggs]

https://mobile.twitter.com/sir12301/status/1504501038853857292

This guy seems confident it’s South Carolina.

And he’s proud that he’s blocked on Twitter by Frank Martin according to his bio.

[XUBANDGRAD]

I think if we locked up miller we would know by now. Starting to feel uneasy.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Damn... if true this stings. As I pointed out yesterday, today is the 15-year anniversary of Sean's no-foul up 3 vs Ohio State in the NCAA Tournament. Hiring him would have be the perfect way to expel the demons.

We just need something to get excited about. It has been 1,460 days since the Florida State loss. I'm beginning to wonder if we'll ever get our mojo back.

[Xville]

You all are freaking out over what is a rumor on a board. There were most including mysself on this board that were convinced Steele wasn’t getting fired. Let’s just all take a deep breath until someone reputable actually comes to the table with info.

[OTRMUSKIE]

https://amp.thestate.com/sports/college/university-of-south-carolina/usc-mens-basketball/article259495799.html

[BandAid]

I could live pretty comfortably on 3 million/year (made up number). Therefore, I don't see the allure of necessarily making 5 million/year (another made up number) over 3 million.

Then again, I am poor.

[boozehound]

Damn... if true this stings. As I pointed out yesterday, today is the 15-year anniversary of Sean's no-foul up 3 vs Ohio State in the NCAA Tournament. Hiring him would have be the perfect way to expel the demons.

We just need something to get excited about. It has been 1,460 days since the Florida State loss. I'm beginning to wonder if we'll ever get our mojo back.

Xavier is a good job. If we are willing to pay real money, we should be able to get a good coach. The legend of Sean Miller may be bigger than the reality around here at this point. Unless he comes to Xavier, of course. Then it's completely warranted.

[Blue Blooded-05]

You all are freaking out over what is a rumor on a board. There were most including mysself on this board that were convinced Steele wasn’t getting fired. Let’s just all take a deep breath until someone reputable actually comes to the table with info.

This is true.

If no official announcement is made to SC today, couldn't one surmise the momentum swings back to us?

Come home, Sean!

#UnfinishedBusiness

[Xavier]

The rumor on SC said if no announcement was today he will likely go to X. Xville is right, a lot of rumors all over the place.

[paulxu]

You guys gotta real love/hate thing going on here with Miller.

ps. If he goes to South Carolina, he and the family won't be vacationing at Myrtle Beach.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Would love it if Cage, Doellman, D. Brown, CJ Anderson, Burrell, Lavender, Love, McLean, Holloway, Duncan, Raymond somehow got involved in encouraging him to come home to Xavier.

#UnfinishedBusiness

[bjf123]

The rumor on SC said if no announcement was today he will likely go to X. Xville is right, a lot of rumors all over the place.

A tweet from someone supposedly “in the know” in SC said his signing with SC would be announced last night or early this morning. Well, that didn’t happen! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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[xudash]

If Sean goes elsewhere FOR THE MONEY, then I quickly move on, knowing that Greg made the right decision. He doesn't need the money. He made a lot of money in the desert.

Let me just note that I know I'm being an idealist with this - I get that. You can make 3 here versus 5 there; a $2 million difference times the number of years you last there will buy you that much more caviar.

The point: this isn't Sean Miller the first time around, leaving X for a higher paying job. This is Miller at the age of 53 with a lot of money in the bank (assuming he has good advisors). This could be a legacy play for him; about doing something truly special on Victory Parkway.

South Carolina? Please. And yes, Columbia, SC is less than ideal, although you can be at the beach in a couple hours if you go south on I-26 and you can be in the Carolina mountains in less than that if you head north on I-26.

Gatorville? Yikes. Gainesville is the pits.

When it is all said and done, if he comes back to Xavier, he will have done so for the right reasons. If he chases the money, especially with the Xavier job there served up to him on a silver platter, then we will have been spared. We wouldn't want that version of Sean anyway.

My gut still tells me he is coming "home" to Xavier.

[principal]

Would love it if Cage, Doellman, D. Brown, CJ Anderson, Burrell, Lavender, Love, McLean, Holloway, Duncan, Raymond each somehow had an extra year of eligibility left and came home to Xavier.

#UnfinishedBusiness

Dream big! ;)

[waggy]

Dash a guy can’t leave that kind of money on the table. Period.

[IM4X]

Gotta figure the trigger was pulled by Christopher because Miller’s agent reached out with surprising information. If That is the case, it had to mean Miller’s first choice is X. Otherwise why bother. He had to know X wouldn’t get into a bidding war with a big school with deep pockets. He had to know a ballpark of what X is willing to shell out for him. So it only makes sense that he has his agent let Christopher “I am very interested and would take the job if I knew it was available and he got offered at least a certain number (that again he knew was in the ballpark).

I also can’t imagine Christopher pulled the trigger without Sean’s agent saying “Sean is your’s unless they throw a ridiculous amount of more money at me at SC.” This is why it is smart for Christopher to play this so close to his vest. He can spin it any way he wants, if Sean does not take the job.

[xudash]

Dash a guy can’t leave that kind of money on the table. Period.

waggy - - tell that to Mark Few.

I'm emphasizing LIFE BALANCE here. This is Sean's true and real chance, knowing that he already is financially secure.

I get what you're saying. I'm just hoping it could break more along the lines of Sean wanting to come back to Xavier and the Big East.

[principal]

waggy - - tell that to Mark Few.

Amen. Which is not to say Miller is Few, but there are exceptions, no matter how...few.

[waggy]

Okay but you have wcc vs be. Wcc is cakewalk

[xudash]

Okay but you have wcc vs be. Wcc is cakewalk

Understand that.

My larger point has everything to do with life balance. Sean Miller, this time around, has a sensational shot at LIFE BALANCE at a place he loves and knows. If he is essentially only about the money, then we will probably lose him to Florida or SC, and probably in that order. If he talks with the wifey and says "let's go home and build something special; we are going to be more comfortable than we ever could have imagined while growing up in the Pittsburgh area", then we'll get him.

We'll see.

Greg did exactly what he had to do when he did it, given these circumstances. Keep one more thing in mind: Greg already has a Plan B and Plan C and Plan n should it not work out with Sean.

Last thing for now - - I think it would be a riot if Sean came to the press conference at the Cintas Center for the announcement in the nicest Buick available in the tri-state area.

[IM4X]

waggy - - tell that to Mark Few.

I'm emphasizing LIFE BALANCE here. This is Sean's true and real chance, knowing that he already is financially secure.

I get what you're saying. I'm just hoping it could break more along the lines of Sean wanting to come back to Xavier and the Big East.

Agree.

Like my dad would always tell me about making lots of money, “At some point it’s just paper.” When you’ve made enough to live comfortably- you’ve made enough and you’ve got to remember to enjoy life and the things that really matter to you. Sean has enough money for his life and taking a few extra million at a place where his heart is not set on being is not likely the path he will have wanted to take a few years from now. Unless he and his family would love to live in SC. Then that changes things a bit.

[muskiefan82]

I was thinking more of an old school Buick that looks like it will run you over.

https://www.wplr.com/2019/08/16/ajs-badass-friday-car-of-the-day-1970-buick-gran-sport-455-stage-1-coupe-3/

[OTRMUSKIE]

That car is sick but you got to go with a classic with dubs.
https://images.app.goo.gl/uKM6NXeHhXdwx5vGA

[waggy]

I’m not going to die on a Sean M hill. I most def hope he comes to X. Great work by you Dash btw..

[muskiefan82]

I’m not going to die on a Sean M hill. I most def hope he comes to X. Great work by you Dash btw..

For once though, X is not reactive and can actually choose from a large group of qualified candidates instead of having to figure out what to do because our coach left.

[paulxu]

Somehow Greg Christopher has gone from being worthless for hiring Travis Steele and messing up the women's program...to being a genius who is masterfully playing the strings behind the curtain to get Sean Miller back on board.

And all within the space of a couple of days. Amazing. Hope it works out for all of us.

[bjf123]

FWIW, I’ve been texting with someone I know who’s involved in college basketball, but not for X. He thinks Sean is X’s candidate 1A followed by Pat Kelsey as 1B. He’s also heard Archie Miller might be going to SC. That works for me.


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[xudash]

I’m not going to die on a Sean M hill. I most def hope he comes to X. Great work by you Dash btw..

Thanks waggy. I believe it was a great effort by everyone here to SHARE their constructive passion for Xavier basketball with the University's leadership. We enabled them to gain direct feedback from their "customers." Imagine you are them and you are getting bombarded with messages that share the same fundamental message. That is what you call valuable input. You know you aren't sitting there making decisions in a vacuum. Every little bit of input helps. They already knew what had to happen and they exhibited strong leadership in making it happen, but it didn't hurt to receive input from passionate fans.

Now on for one more important thing, now that we're touching on the idea a little bit: we need the Buick convertible from the RAINMAN movie. It would be even better if Tom Cruise came back to chauffeur him to the presser, but maybe that's asking for too much.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Pat Kelsey train has passed. Archie is going to RI

[BandAid]

FWIW, I’ve been texting with someone I know who’s involved in college basketball, but not for X. He thinks Sean is X’s candidate 1A followed by Pat Kelsey as 1B. He’s also heard Archie Miller might be going to SC. That works for me.


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There would be a bit of schadenfreude if the SC boards and pundits had the wrong Miller the whole time.

[xudash]

Amen. Which is not to say Miller is Few, but there are exceptions, no matter how...few.

I see what you did there.

Damn, isn't this waiting around in limbo just too much fun.

[Wheelhouse]

My thoughts:

1. Steele had to go. I don't think he was ever going to get the program to where we want it to be.
2. I don't love the timing of Steele's firing, but everything I've heard is that it was done to have a shot at Miller.
3. Xavier threw their best offer at Miller. He's also talking to South Carolina who can pay him significantly more money.
4. I would love Sean to come back to X. It would be the best possible hire we could make. That said, if he decides to go to SC, so be it. I'm never going to fault someone for taking the job that offers several more million dollars per year.
5. I know Sean loved Xavier and his wife loved Cincinnati. Those are two factors in our favor. But getting paid $3-4M per year more at SC is a huge factor in their favor.
6. I think everyone here is giving Greg Christopher way too much credit. The timing of Steele's firing and going after Miller tell me that these decisions are being made well above Christopher's head.

Exciting times for X. Steele had to go and we might get Miller. If we don't get him, I think Christopher will have more of a say in the hiring process and I'm not sure if that's a good thing. Hopefully I'm wrong and he can bring in a great coach.

[webxu]

Clearly $ can be a factor here, but lets keep in mind Miller made quite a bit at Zona for 12 years, so hopefully that is not the only motivator for him.

[Xville]

My thoughts:

1. Steele had to go. I don't think he was ever going to get the program to where we want it to be.
2. I don't love the timing of Steele's firing, but everything I've heard is that it was done to have a shot at Miller.
3. Xavier threw their best offer at Miller. He's also talking to South Carolina who can pay him significantly more money.
4. I would love Sean to come back to X. It would be the best possible hire we could make. That said, if he decides to go to SC, so be it. I'm never going to fault someone for taking the job that offers several more million dollars per year.
5. I know Sean loved Xavier and his wife loved Cincinnati. Those are two factors in our favor. But getting paid $3-4M per year more at SC is a huge factor in their favor.
6. I think everyone here is giving Greg Christopher way too much credit. The timing of Steele's firing and going after Miller tell me that these decisions are being made well above Christopher's head.

Exciting times for X. Steele had to go and we might get Miller. If we don't get him, I think Christopher will have more of a say in the hiring process and I'm not sure if that's a good thing. Hopefully I'm wrong and he can bring in a great coach.

That's never going to happen unless Xavier offered basically nothing. Bruce Pearl gets paid 5.4 mil, Rick Barnes 5.2 mil. I'm guessing if X made their best offer it was 3 or a bit more. No way SC is offering 6 or 7

[xukeith]

https://amp.thestate.com/sports/college/university-of-south-carolina/usc-mens-basketball/article259495799.html

Very interesting. I thought Miller's agent called X to say he is interested in X proposing an offer. I thought that was true. Maybe it wasn't.


Some people have said its done and X is doing all the background checks, etc. This weekend we will know for sure.

Damn if true.

[Dblue]

Very interesting. I thought Miller's agent called X to say he is interested in X proposing an offer. I thought that was true. Maybe it wasn't.


Some people have said its done and X is doing all the background checks, etc. This weekend we will know for sure.

Damn if true.

A surprise introduction of Sean's return would be probably the top half time entertainment ever in a NIT game.

[IM4X]

I think it would be a riot if Sean came to the press conference at the Cintas Center for the announcement in the nicest Buick available in the tri-state area.

Yes it would. If he comes to X, it would be really smart Nd fun to end up with him driving a Buick at the press conference.

I posted an idea of what they could at the press conference that could generate positive buzz for X a little while back. Trying to find my post.

[paulxu]

Hah! I remember this guy from way back in 2013 with all the stuff going on about the BE and various teams.
Now he's got X talking to Frank Martin.

https://twitter.com/blauds?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7 Ctwterm%5E1504466458339954692%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5E s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.basketballforum.com%2Fth reads%2Faround-the-league.572122%2Fpage-352

[D-West & PO-Z]

I don’t think Sean will be the next coach at Xavier. Going to be an uneasy few weeks. Hopefully we can get someone with recruiting connections because Xavier is going to need that. Next year will be really depressing it looks like.

You would be wrong.

[principal]

Very interesting. I thought Miller's agent called X to say he is interested in X proposing an offer. I thought that was true. Maybe it wasn't.


Some people have said its done and X is doing all the background checks, etc. This weekend we will know for sure.

Damn if true.

The link above does not address the question of whether or not Miller‘s agent contacted X. It only address whether he was in Cincinnati, heading back to SC, and returning to Cincinnati:

“He was in Cincinnati this morning, SC in the afternoon and will be back to Cincy tomorrow. That’s why source thinks decision will be made tomorrow. But need to correct,source said SHOULD be tomorrow.”

The rumormill seems to support that Sean was in Cincinnati, the timing of Steele’s firing seems to indicate something is going on, Miller makes the most sense, but who knows?

Prin

[D-West & PO-Z]

Steele was dead man walking regardless of the Sean Miller situation, IMO.

I think the only thing Miller's availability did was force the move now v. at the conclusion of the NIT.

I'm not sure Steele would see it that way though. I am positive he thought he could keep his job. Not saying he is right though.

[OTRMUSKIE]

The pay site said Steele was def not on campus. They said this is going to take weeks.

[Wheelhouse]

That's never going to happen unless Xavier offered basically nothing. Bruce Pearl gets paid 5.4 mil, Rick Barnes 5.2 mil. I'm guessing if X made their best offer it was 3 or a bit more. No way SC is offering 6 or 7

Ok, $1M-2M more? Still a lot of money. I understand Sean is probably fairly well off but $5M-$10M more over the course of a contract is still a lot of dough.

[American X]

Dear Greg Christopher:

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fthumbs.gfycat.com%2FKnobbyWeeklyK inkajou-max-1mb.gif&f=1&nofb=1

[bjf123]

The pay site said Steele was def not on campus. They said this is going to take weeks.

I’m sorry, but I can’t wait that long. Do something about this.


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[Xavier]

I’m happy to wait. The longer Sean isn’t committing elsewhere the better shot X has, but also- if it isn’t Sean we want to make sure we get the right guy. Take the time to do so.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Somehow Greg Christopher has gone from being worthless for hiring Travis Steele and messing up the women's program...to being a genius who is masterfully playing the strings behind the curtain to get Sean Miller back on board.

And all within the space of a couple of days. Amazing. Hope it works out for all of us.

Paul, cheer up man. No matter what happens with Miller Christopher made the first right step, relieving Steele of his duties. That was a good move we all were pleasantly surprised by. His next step is getting a solid coach hired. If it's Miller he hit a homerun. If it's not he has to have a good plan B which we will all judge when it happens.

[Strange Brew]

Dear Greg Christopher:

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fthumbs.gfycat.com%2FKnobbyWeeklyK inkajou-max-1mb.gif&f=1&nofb=1

Public reps!

[boozehound]

The pay site said Steele was def not on campus. They said this is going to take weeks.

Weeks seems like a really long time for this unless there are some major complications.

[D-West & PO-Z]

The pay site said Steele was def not on campus. They said this is going to take weeks.

If it's Miller, it wont take weeks.

[xukeith]

Hell nooooooo, he will screw that up too. I got to believe Miller is the head coach and X is just doing it's due diligence to make sure there will be no sanctions coming down on the program. That's what the waiting is for.

Is this from your insights or the credible source's?

[xavierj]

The pay site said Steele was def not on campus. They said this is going to take weeks.

Are we already rehiring Steele?

[XUBison]

Weeks seems like a really long time for this unless there are some major complications.

I have to keep hitting refresh every two minutes for weeks?

[Jumpin_Jamal_Forever]

Would not surprise me if X and/or Miller is delaying the announcement in order to put a little distance between Steele's firing and Miller's hiring. Just out of respect.

Maybe not. I don't have any more idea than anyone else.

But, just thinking about this situation, we should not conflate two separate decisions. First of all, Steele had to go. No animosity toward him but almost all of us on this board agree, the program was imploding.

Who takes his place is the second decision. Seriously doubt it will be Frank Martin. In fact, I'd be shocked if it is Martin.

As far as Miller making the decision based on money, I doubt it. He is in his mid-fifties, probably has, if he saved an invested wisely, a $20MM - $25MM net worth. The after-tax difference between $3.0 MM and $5.0 MM is about $1.0 MM----lots of money to most of us, for sure. But, maybe not to him. Remember your sophomore economics class and the lecture (for those of you that didn't sleep through it) about declining marginal utility. The more you have of something, the less satisfaction you receive from having more. I've known a few people for whom money was everything but none of them were very high net worth individuals. Really doubt that money is the driver here.

But I've been wrong before. Like four years ago when I thought hiring Steele was the best decision ever.

Now, let's find a new coach. Very much hope it is Miller. Still believe Miller is in the cards. But, if this takes a sudden unexpected turn away from Miller, I'm at still peace with firing Steele. Had to happen.

[waggy]

Electing for a larger paycheck isn’t necessarily a selfish decision. In fact, it can be opposite.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Totally disagree. When I have had 8 beers and then I decide may be 4 more would make me happier. It usually does make me happier. More is alway better no matter what. At least when it comes to beer. Weed on the other hand there is a perfect dosage for that.

[xukeith]

Miller chose Arizona because they were a very solid basketball program.
He did not have to rebuild the Arizona bball program.
They also paid very well. Lots of cash!


Now SC probably needs some rebuilding and it will have growing pains. Does Miller want this as a challenge or somwhere he can win a lot faster like X, Florida and USC?

[xu82]

I have to keep hitting refresh every two minutes for weeks?

I think I’m already getting tennis elbow!

[GoMuskies]

Are we already rehiring Steele?

Steele is garbage. If our top 17 candidates say no.....we'll move on to #18, and none of them will be Steele.

[waggy]

Steele is garbage. If our top 17 candidates say no.....we'll move on to #18, and none of them will be Steele.

eastsidej

[IM4X]

Electing for a larger paycheck isn’t necessarily a selfish decision. In fact, it can be opposite.

Just noticed they your next post makes 11,111.

[X-band '01]

Hah! I remember this guy from way back in 2013 with all the stuff going on about the BE and various teams.
Now he's got X talking to Frank Martin.

https://twitter.com/blauds?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7 Ctwterm%5E1504466458339954692%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5E s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.basketballforum.com%2Fth reads%2Faround-the-league.572122%2Fpage-352

Technically he could be right - maybe Frank wanted to have a little chat about the Sweet 16 game back in 2010 with X-Kansas State.

[Title]

I got to believe Miller is the head coach and X is just doing it's due diligence to make sure there will be no sanctions coming down on the program. That's what the waiting is for.


Kind of sums up Xavier basketball doesn't it.

[xu82]

Kind of sums up Xavier basketball doesn't it.

How is that?

[Title]

https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1504583348567658503?cxt=HHwWjsC-pa-lreEpAAAA

[Xville]

https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1504583348567658503?cxt=HHwWjsC-pa-lreEpAAAA

Probably good news.. he’s the idiot who thought x was in the tourney

[Title]

Probably good news.. he’s the idiot who thought x was in the tourney

I know why would anyone ever assume Xavier is in the Tourney ?

[xuphan]

https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1504583348567658503?cxt=HHwWjsC-pa-lreEpAAAA

What other candidates have been mentioned besides Miller? If Miller does go to SC, who do we look at next? Mack? Kelsey? Any other names being mentioned?

[Masterofreality]

What other candidates have been mentioned besides Miller? If Miller does go to SC, who do we look at next? Mack? Kelsey? Any other names being mentioned?

Throw shit out there.. "subject to change" is not reporting

[Backyard Champ]

Don’t listen to anything Seth says. He may be right, but that’s just luck. He has no inside sources.

I think very little of him, obviously.

[xu82]

Don’t listen to anything Seth says. He may be right, but that’s just luck. He has no inside sources.

I think very little of him, obviously.

Like our 3 point shooting, the ball has to come down somewhere.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Throw shit out there.. "subject to change" is not reporting

Yep

[XU_Lou]

What do you all make of this:

"BREAKING: Sean Miller is currently in Hall’s Chophouse with @UofSC officials. @Mike_Uva is on scene. Waiting for him to confirm. #WelcomeHome"

https://twitter.com/cocks_by_90/status/1504601343536812039

[Tim]

What do you all make of this:

"BREAKING: Sean Miller is currently in Hall’s Chophouse with @UofSC officials. @Mike_Uva is on scene. Waiting for him to confirm. #WelcomeHome"

https://twitter.com/cocks_by_90/status/1504601343536812039
Well that truly sucks. Really hope it's not true

[Caveat]

What other candidates have been mentioned besides Miller? If Miller does go to SC, who do we look at next? Mack? Kelsey? Any other names being mentioned?

I’ve been told that Mack isn’t eager to get back into the game right now.

Obviously that can change at any minute, but at this minute, he isn’t an option.

[xu82]

Well that truly sucks. Really hope it's not true

If he takes the USC job in Columbia, SC, he may sweat down his first summer like a certain wicked witch splashed with water.

[Backyard Champ]

Assuming nothing yet. They were interviewing other coaches was the report earlier.

Could just be them talking over the offer.

[XU 87]

What do you all make of this:

"BREAKING: Sean Miller is currently in Hall’s Chophouse with @UofSC officials. @Mike_Uva is on scene. Waiting for him to confirm. #WelcomeHome"

https://twitter.com/cocks_by_90/status/1504601343536812039

There is a joke thread on Twitter where Miller has been seen at about 6 different bars in Columbia.

[xu82]

There is a joke thread on Twitter where Miller has been seen at about 6 different bars in Columbia.

Is there an Urban Myer style video?

[XUBison]

Why in the world would he go to South Carolina unless he has no better options? Maybe we told him no thanks?

[xukeith]

If we end up with Kelsey, Christopher is still a hero. Just like a minor hero instead of Batman.

Please no. We have seen the 40 year old coach who dresses in hoodies. Kelsey looks way too similar to Steele. I pass.

[BandAid]

Why in the world would he go to South Carolina unless he has no better options? Maybe we told him no thanks?

$$$$$$$$$$$

and


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[xu82]

Why in the world would he go to South Carolina unless he has no better options? Maybe we told him no thanks?

Money is the only thing I can think of. I used to work for a bank out of Columbia. I spent a lot of time there. I would have to be highly motivated by money to be there if I had other options.

[xavierj]

$$$$$$$$$$$

and


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Just curious… do sec schools pay more for basketball than football?

[XUBison]

Money is the only thing I can think of. I used to work for a bank out of Columbia. I spent a lot of time there. I would have to be highly motivated by money to be there if I had other options.

I know, but he will make a boatload wherever he goes. South Carolina is such a dud. And he won’t earn there very long, because they suck. Maybe he wants somewhere that has no expectations.

[XUGRAD80]

But it IS an SEC school….

See,
Everyone
Cheats

[paulxu]

There's a lot of South Carolina bashing going on here.
But it's not stopping all the Ohioans from retiring on Hilton Head.

[xavierj]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Mike_Uva/status/1504619595273064452

[Title]

Yeah Columbis SC sucks, however when compared to the butthole of the Midwest it really isn't much worse.

[SM#24]

Just curious… do sec schools pay more for basketball than football?

Depends on the school. I’m pretty sure UK does. Plus SC’s football coach is first-timer and not a proven 18 year successful head coach.

[XU_Lou]

And this appears to be pretty legit:

https://twitter.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1504620620700598273

[OTRMUSKIE]

I would assume the butthole of the Midwest would be Dayton? And nobody is busting on South Carolina, they are busting on Columbia. Hilton Head is beautiful but the university is sea side. If he goes to SC he is the biggest POS that has ever come through X and that means he will have passed Beak nose. Florida, okay I get, but SC? The college not the states

[Xavgrad08]

I know nothing is official, but it feels like South Carolina is the favorite to land him? I am trying to be optimistic.

[XUGRAD80]

There's a lot of South Carolina bashing going on here.
But it's not stopping all the Ohioans from retiring on Hilton Head.

No state income tax and good weather with no snow…..what’s not to like?

[xu82]

There's a lot of South Carolina bashing going on here.
But it's not stopping all the Ohioans from retiring on Hilton Head.

Paul, with all due respect, it’s disingenuous to compare HHI to Columbia. I lived on HHI and worked for a bank out of Columbia. They have nothing in common other than the “SC”.

[Xville]

It would stink if we missed out on miller and he would be a huge pos to call x and then not take the job. Only redeeming thing is that it got Steele canned which needed to happen. If it’s not miller, I’m confident x will still get someone good. Lots of great candidates out there.

[Xavier]

And this appears to be pretty legit:

https://twitter.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1504620620700598273

Why would he be there for only 10 minutes? Just adds to confusion. If he was taking the job don’t you think he’d stay and at least celebrate dinner? Again just adds to confusion because would he really travel there to say he is going with X?

[Xville]

Why would he be there for only 10 minutes? Just adds to confusion. If he was taking the job don’t you think he’d stay and at least celebrate dinner? Again just adds to confusion because would he really travel there to say he is going with X?

Guessing he went there because sc upped their offer when they realized there was competition. Just because he was in sc doesn’t mean squat beyond that.

[Blue Blooded-05]

And this appears to be pretty legit:

https://twitter.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1504620620700598273

Meh. Everyone knew he was going to be there today and I presume they eat dinner in there.


I know nothing is official, but it feels like South Carolina is the favorite to land him? I am trying to be optimistic.

It is starting to feel that way. However, I remember going to bed 13 years ago feeling confident Sean was staying. He’s holding the cards and he’s going to get what he wants. Nothing is final until the press conference.

If he really played us for leverage then I’m confident we’ll get our revenge in the tourney in a few years once again.

[bjf123]

I tend to always look at the downside of everything, so I fully expect Miller to take the job in SC. At the same time, the post said the meeting lasted about 10 minutes and that Sean left by himself. He could have been saying “I’ll take the job. See you in the morning.” He also could have been saying “Thanks for the offer, but I’m going to Xavier.”

I expect the former, but hope for the latter.


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[Blue Blooded-05]

Well... I doubt Sean will be consulting Coach Cal tonight

[paulxu]

There was one other coach in that rook at the steakhouse. Probably Mack :)

[xu82]

Well... I doubt Sean will be consulting Coach Cal tonight

Calipari is coach Steele on steroids. Recruits even better, coaches to improve even less.

[bjf123]

There was one other coach in that rook at the steakhouse. Probably Mack :)

It’s not like he has anywhere else to be!


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[xudash]

I am anxious for a decision on Sean Miller, but I have come to be more relaxed while waiting for it.

I am going with an old adage: what is meant to be, shall be.

I want Sean Miller at Xavier badly. If he comes back to Victory Parkway, then it will have been for the right reasons, and he will obviously have truly wanted the job.

If he goes somewhere else for the money, then it is mostly about the money with him, versus solid money coupled with the Xavier job. We don’t want or need that version of Sean Miller.

This is a 0 or 180 deal on the spectrum. At least that provides some clarity.

[Caveat]

I’ve been to Columbia once before.

Ate at an Ethiopian restaurant called “Harambe” as a joke. It was actually pretty good.

The rest of the place was one of the lamer college towns I’ve ever been to.

[XUBison]

I am anxious for a decision on Sean Miller, but I have come to be more relaxed while waiting for it.

I am going with an old adage: what is meant to be, shall be.

I want Sean Miller at Xavier badly. If he comes back to Victory Parkway, then it will have been for the right reasons, and he will obviously have truly wanted the job.

If he goes somewhere else for the money, then it is mostly about the money with him. We don’t want or need that version of Sean Miller.

This is a 0 or 180 deal on the spectrum. At least that provides some clarity.

Totally agree, but someone please help me. Why South Carolina? People keep saying there’s a mystery SEC team involved. That would have to be either FL or LSU, right? Why the holy heck wouldn’t he go to one of those instead? I’ve always rooted for Sean, and I still would if he were at FL or even LSU. But I’m not rooting for him if he turns out to be an idiot at South Carolina.

[paulxu]

There's a lot of South Carolina bashing going on here.
But it's not stopping all the Ohioans from retiring on Hilton Head.

Bump

[D-West & PO-Z]

And this appears to be pretty legit:

https://twitter.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1504620620700598273

Miller being in SC doesnt make me any more nervous. Miller was already talking to them before we fired Steele. The schools are doing their due diligence and I am sure he is doing his as well.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Miller to sign with SC tonight or tomorrow. It's over bois. A mid major has stolen our coach we wanted. Well enjoy it you bag of shit. Can't believe we trusted that sleeve ball. Maybe he is broke from paying all his players. Or he needs money to pay future players. Either way sounds like Gregory is about to get canned for FN this up.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Nothing is final until the press conference.



Unless you are Pat Kelsey, then it still isn't quite finished.

[XUBison]

Totally agree, but someone please help me. Why South Carolina? People keep saying there’s a mystery SEC team involved. That would have to be either FL or LSU, right? Why the holy heck wouldn’t he go to one of those instead? I’ve always rooted for Sean, and I still would if he were at FL or even LSU. But I’m not rooting for him if he turns out to be an idiot at South Carolina.

Bump :)

[D-West & PO-Z]

I tend to always look at the downside of everything, so I fully expect Miller to take the job in SC. At the same time, the post said the meeting lasted about 10 minutes and that Sean left by himself. He could have been saying “I’ll take the job. See you in the morning.” He also could have been saying “Thanks for the offer, but I’m going to Xavier.”

I expect the former, but hope for the latter.


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Well of note, the guy who posted this said he couldnt even confirm there were any representatives of USC at the dinner. He mentioned at least one person being another head coach of a team not in the state. Would be weird for USC reps to be at dinner with Miller and another unrelated coach.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Bump

Paul you're arguing something no one is saying. Your comprehension can't be that bad, why are you purposely being dense?

People are talking badly about Columbia specifically and the school USC specifically as it relates to its place in basketball. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Xville]

Miller to sign with SC tonight or tomorrow. It's over bois. A mid major has stolen our coach we wanted. Well enjoy it you bag of shit. Can't believe we trusted that sleeve ball. Maybe he is broke from paying all his players. Or he needs money to pay future players. Either way sounds like Gregory is about to get canned for FN this up.

Where are you getting this from? Some guy on Twitter? Take a deep breath

[D-West & PO-Z]

Miller to sign with SC tonight or tomorrow. It's over bois. A mid major has stolen our coach we wanted. Well enjoy it you bag of shit. Can't believe we trusted that sleeve ball. Maybe he is broke from paying all his players. Or he needs money to pay future players. Either way sounds like Gregory is about to get canned for FN this up.

Why do you do this? Over the last 24 hours you have claimed both it being a done deal for both schools. Take a breath.

[xu82]

Well of note, the guy who posted this said he couldnt even confirm there were any representatives of USC at the dinner. He mentioned at least one person being another head coach of a team not in the state. Would be weird for USC reps to be at dinner with Miller and another unrelated coach.

Details, details……

I think it’s almost impossible for any of us to have a firm conviction on how this turns out. I am very hopeful, but I’m also a Bills fan, so I’m used to the painful blow.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Details, details……

I think it’s almost impossible for any of us to have a firm conviction on how this turns out. I am very hopeful, but I’m also a Bills fan, so I’m used to the painful blow.

As a Mets fan I am right there with ya!

[waggy]

My take is promised USC he would return, and kept his word.

[IM4X]

As a Mets fan I am right there with ya!

Hope you are not a Jet’s fan too. That would be just brutal.

[XUBison]

As a Mets fan I am right there with ya!

I remember watching an awesome Mets team win the World Series. Try the Vikings on for size. I have seen three Bengals teams in the Super Bowl in my 43 years. The Vikes have been there and lost four times, all before I existed. Please Sean Miller, fix my sports life!

[Backyard Champ]

Take it for what it’s worth:

I’ve had multiple people from different friend groups telling me it’s a done deal, Miller to Xavier. They certainly wouldn’t have the same sources. Even after all the other reporting, no messages from any of them about being worried.

Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but it seems like there are those with connections that have a hell of a lot of quiet confidence that Miller is coming to Xavier.

But you read SC boards and they feel the same. I think it’s because SC is making a show of it, public meetings and such.

[Xavier]

Why do you do this? Over the last 24 hours you have claimed both it being a done deal for both schools. Take a breath.

That guy is all over the place. From “players being told it’s Miller” to “usc got him” and it all started with “X is not letting go of Steele”.

[JTG]

I am anxious for a decision on Sean Miller, but I have come to be more relaxed while waiting for it.

I am going with an old adage: what is meant to be, shall be.

I want Sean Miller at Xavier badly. If he comes back to Victory Parkway, then it will have been for the right reasons, and he will obviously have truly wanted the job.

If he goes somewhere else for the money, then it is mostly about the money with him, versus solid money coupled with the Xavier job. We don’t want or need that version of Sean Miller.

This is a 0 or 180 deal on the spectrum. At least that provides some clarity.
If it's about money with Miller why would he even talk to X. He coached at X; he KNOWS they can't pay the most
compared to the SEC. This is all very awkward. If Miller really likes and misses Xavier as he has told others, what's the holdup ? If this was Miller just gaming X, he will rocket to the top as most hated former coach. I expect a weekend announcement and a Monday presser, hopefully in Cincinnati.

[OTRMUSKIE]

WE GOT HIM!!!! Confirmation coming soon

[IM4X]

Found it interesting that the the Twitter link says Miller was in the back of the Steakhouse

1) with another head coach who is not from the state of SC.

Why is there another head coach there? Who is that other head coach? Why was that other head coach not identified?

2) and Miller only stayed 10 minutes.

Why did he leave so quickly? Did he get called away to talk to Christopher? Did he not like the steak?

[xu82]

WE GOT HIM!!!! Confirmation coming soon

HELLO! Source?

[paulxu]

Paul you're arguing something no one is saying. Your comprehension can't be that bad, why are you purposely being dense?

People are talking badly about Columbia specifically and the school USC specifically as it relates to its place in basketball. Nothing more, nothing less.

Easy. Just having a little fun. And of course I live here.
South Carolina has a lot of challenges, but Columbia's not one of them.

[GoMuskies]

WE GOT HIM!!!! Confirmation coming soon

Lol

[Blue Blooded-05]

Miller to sign with SC tonight or tomorrow. It's over bois. A mid major has stolen our coach we wanted. Well enjoy it you bag of shit. Can't believe we trusted that sleeve ball. Maybe he is broke from paying all his players. Or he needs money to pay future players. Either way sounds like Gregory is about to get canned for FN this up.


WE GOT HIM!!!! Confirmation coming soon

36 minutes apart

[paulxu]

Having fun down here:

https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/university-of-south-carolina/usc-mens-basketball/article259524419.html

[Xavier]

HELLO! Source?

He just said that because we’re giving him garbage for riding the roller coaster and going back and forth so much

[xuphan]

Maybe Sean has accepted both positions. With technology nowadays, he could be pioneering a new way of coaching. He can coach by being through the use of robots for both teams with a flatscreen he can use to project himself to coach the game from a remote place. The robot can be program to sweat periodically as well. This would allow Sean to collect multiple paychecks and coach at both schools. In reality, no one knows for sure where he will end up. Should be an interesting 48-72 hours.

[XU_Lou]

36 minutes apart

No doubt! I've got major whiplash now!

[smileyy]

The robot can be program to sweat periodically as well.

I lol'ed

[xu82]

Easy. Just having a little fun. And of course I live here.
South Carolina has a lot of challenges, but Columbia's not one of them.

SC is great in many ways! I don’t think of Columbia as being a highlight. I think Greenville (and even Spartanburg) are VERY underrated. I love Charleston. I won’t go on and on, but they have a lot of great stuff. I LOVE the Lowcountry. My wife is from Rock Hill, so it’s been home to her forever, and we traveled enough in our Hilton Head years to learn a lot more.

Columbia is just not a great city.

[smileyy]

No doubt! I've got major whiplash now!

One way or another they're right!

[OTRMUSKIE]

Source is Tom Gamble. He just announced on 700wlw tbat two of his very reliable sources have confirmed he is signing. He said it's not 100% concrete but he trust his sources.

[xudash]

Well of note, the guy who posted this said he couldnt even confirm there were any representatives of USC at the dinner. He mentioned at least one person being another head coach of a team not in the state. Would be weird for USC reps to be at dinner with Miller and another unrelated coach.

That raised my eyebrows, too.

[IM4X]

Having fun down here:

https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/university-of-south-carolina/usc-mens-basketball/article259524419.html


Ha. From that steakhouse photo of Sean, it appears negotiations were so tough that it caused him to sweat through his white Oxford just like he does during basketball games.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Hope you are not a Jet’s fan too. That would be just brutal.

Giants. Been a rough decade but the 2 SB's in 4 years (that I got to attend both of) was a pretty sweet stretch.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I remember watching an awesome Mets team win the World Series. Try the Vikings on for size. I have seen three Bengals teams in the Super Bowl in my 43 years. The Vikes have been there and lost four times, all before I existed. Please Sean Miller, fix my sports life!

Ha, yeah brutal for you. Last time Mets won in '86 was the year I was born.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Here is a new one from Seth Davis.

Seth Davis

@SethDavisHoops

Current chatter on the coaching grapevine: Kevin Willard to Maryland, Sean Miller to South Carolina. Subject to change as always......

[D-West & PO-Z]

Easy. Just having a little fun. And of course I live here.
South Carolina has a lot of challenges, but Columbia's not one of them.

I have been to Columbia once, didn't think much of it, but I am positive someone from there would say the same about Cincinnati.

[principal]

Here is a new one from Seth Davis.

Seth Davis

@SethDavisHoops

Current chatter on the coaching grapevine: Kevin Willard to Maryland, Sean Miller to South Carolina. Subject to change as always......

You may be joking, but in case not, that is from around 6:30pm on Thursday and has already been reported in this thread.

[Backyard Champ]

Here is a new one from Seth Davis.

Seth Davis

@SethDavisHoops

Current chatter on the coaching grapevine: Kevin Willard to Maryland, Sean Miller to South Carolina. Subject to change as always......

This was posted a while ago. Don’t take anthing Seth says too seriously. He has no inside sources.

[D-West & PO-Z]

One way or another they're right!

Unless he goes to FL, lmao.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Here is a new one from Seth Davis.

Seth Davis

@SethDavisHoops

Current chatter on the coaching grapevine: Kevin Willard to Maryland, Sean Miller to South Carolina. Subject to change as always......

Yeah this was several hours ago. Davis doesn't know shit. "Subject to change" is not him reporting anything worthwhile.

[IM4X]

I am anxious for a decision on Sean Miller, but I have come to be more relaxed while waiting for it.

I am going with an old adage: what is meant to be, shall be.

I want Sean Miller at Xavier badly. If he comes back to Victory Parkway, then it will have been for the right reasons, and he will obviously have truly wanted the job.

If he goes somewhere else for the money, then it is mostly about the money with him, versus solid money coupled with the Xavier job. We don’t want or need that version of Sean Miller.

This is a 0 or 180 deal on the spectrum. At least that provides some clarity.

100% feel the same way.

Now if Sean does not come end up at X, I hope we don’t race through this hiring. I also hope plan B and C and D do not include the potential options I’ve been seeing suggested. None of them should make us feel comfortable X would be a regular in the NCAA in their hands. Either it’s got to be Miller or another HC who has been to and advanced in multiple NCAA tournaments or it needs to be a long time assistant of an elite level coach (a Tommy Lloyd kind of candidate).

[MHettel]

Unless he goes to FL, lmao.

Imagine Miller in the house Sunday, watching his new Team, the Gators.

Think we will sell some tickets for that one?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Imagine Miller in the house Sunday, watching his new Team, the Gators.

Think we will sell some tickets for that one?

Right? Lets hope not!

[X-band '01]

Why do you do this? Over the last 24 hours you have claimed both it being a done deal for both schools. Take a breath.

I move that the words bois and Samesies be banned on this forum.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Well let's just hope Tom gamble is right. I bet we get an answer tomorrow.

[IM4X]

Giants. Been a rough decade but the 2 SB's in 4 years (that I got to attend both of) was a pretty sweet stretch.

Good. I think I’d have given up on the Jets long ago if they were my team. Talk about a place that has a history of bad coaching hires.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Calipari will prob retire after this loss. Miller to UK could be holding things up. Now that I would totally understand him wanting to go. SC hell no but UK I get. Either way, or he passes on us then you need to go get this McMahon from Murray State.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I move that the words bois and Samesies be banned on this forum.

You shut your mouth when you're talking about samesies!

[bjf123]

Easy. Just having a little fun. And of course I live here.
South Carolina has a lot of challenges, but Columbia's not one of them.

Charleston is a great place. As are Greenville and Spartanburg.


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[American X]

Now I hear that Miller is holding out for President Hanycz to swing her sweater vest above her head during games.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Now I hear that Miller is holding out for President Hanycz to swing her sweater vest above her head during games.

Ha, public reps, the man is holding me down!

[xukeith]

Ha, public reps, the man is holding me down!

With so many rumors and ideas regarding Sean Miller's next workplace, did he step foot on Xavier's campus over these past 7 days or not?

[D-West & PO-Z]

With so many rumors and ideas regarding Sean Miller's next workplace, did he step foot on Xavier's campus over these past 7 days or not?

He was reported to have but then I think it was reported that was not correct.

Probably not as urgent he do so at X given that he worked here for 8 years and had been back a month ago. Just from seeing facilities, knowing the town and the people perspective.

[paulxu]

If he's not at Dana's with a roll of cash...he's not back yet.

[bjf123]

If he's not at Dana's with a roll of cash...he's not back yet.

Whoever the next head coach is, I’m sure BJ hopes the $1,000 per Crosstown Shootout victory continues for Dana’s.


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[xu 89]

Whoever the next head coach is, I’m sure BJ hopes the $1,000 per Crosstown Shootout victory continues for Dana’s.


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The question is: When we beat UC next year does Miller drop $4k at Dana's or does it reset to $1k??

[Xavier]

Latest word is Miller wasn’t even in South Carolina last night. No steak house meeting. South Carolina optimistic but interviewing other candidates as well.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Latest word is Miller wasn’t even in South Carolina last night. No steak house meeting. South Carolina optimistic but interviewing other candidates as well.

Saw this as well.

[Xville]

Latest word is Miller wasn’t even in South Carolina last night. No steak house meeting. South Carolina optimistic but interviewing other candidates as well.
tjust wondering----is that from a reputable source? Like from Rick B or?

Wondering what is the delay here then..schools vetting him like crazy or is he struggling with a decision, or being courted by other teams?

[bjf123]

The question is: When we beat UC next year does Miller drop $4k at Dana's or does it reset to $1k??

I think it resets. New coach, new start.


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[paulxu]

Now I hear that Miller is holding out for President Hanycz to swing her sweater vest above her head during games.

Sean Miller.........come on down !


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[bjf123]

Latest word is Miller wasn’t even in South Carolina last night. No steak house meeting. South Carolina optimistic but interviewing other candidates as well.

Link?


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[principal]

Is there any reason to think X is truly considering Miller (and that he is considering X)? Has anything been substantiated by anyone in the know, anyone who has reliable sources? I’m not asking for sources to be named, just wondering if anyone can confirm the rumors.

[drudy23]

I've seen some things from Rick B that I haven't posted here for obvious reasons, but he seems to have the best pulse on this.

I don't know that anything we see on Twitter can be believed unless it's coming from him or those like him.

[atljar]

My personal opinion of timeline:

- Sean Miller was strongly condidering SC, but had some insider knowledge that Steel was on the hot seat. Likely from his on campus visit last month. Furthermore, I think that visit was partially planned by administration as a feeler, or by some deep pockets to at least get him here and on campus.
- XU received word of SC talks and reached out with him and an agreement was made for to be our next head coach, while Steel was still head coach. I honestly think this ball was in motion for WEEKS prior but XU didnt expect the SC intervention
- Travis Steele and XU part ways abruptly during NIT tourney, this is a show of good faith by XU to Miller
- XU NIT games will all be played with no head coach announcement
- Sean Miller announced AFTER XU is out of the NIT. This gives them a saving face window that the above didnt really happen the way I think it went down, and also gives them a window to "conduct a national search" which is lip-service at best.

[Final4]

Maybe just a coincidence but there is a private flight that originates in Columbia SC that arrives at Lunken at 1:40pm today. Flight #GAJ850. Any eastsiders want to head down and take a peek and report back?

[UCGRAD4X]

The "conduct a national search" comment may also be reassurance that we are not looking to hire from within again...necessarily...maybe...to fend off the wolves at the door.

[boozehound]

Maybe just a coincidence but there is a private flight that originates in Columbia SC that arrives at Lunken at 1:40pm today. Flight #GAJ850. Any eastsiders want to head down and take a peek and report back?

We have officially reached the 'flight tracking' stage of the coaching search.

[Wheelhouse]

Maybe just a coincidence but there is a private flight that originates in Columbia SC that arrives at Lunken at 1:40pm today. Flight #GAJ850. Any eastsiders want to head down and take a peek and report back?

This is the kind of investigating that I need.

[bjf123]

Is there any reason to think X is truly considering Miller (and that he is considering X)? Has anything been substantiated by anyone in the know, anyone who has reliable sources? I’m not asking for sources to be named, just wondering if anyone can confirm the rumors.

Coaching candidates are rarely announced publicly by the school or the coach until the deal is done. Everything is based on unsubstantiated rumors and innuendo until then.


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[MHettel]

My personal opinion of timeline:

- Sean Miller was strongly condidering SC, but had some insider knowledge that Steel was on the hot seat. Likely from his on campus visit last month. Furthermore, I think that visit was partially planned by administration as a feeler, or by some deep pockets to at least get him here and on campus.
- XU received word of SC talks and reached out with him and an agreement was made for to be our next head coach, while Steel was still head coach. I honestly think this ball was in motion for WEEKS prior but XU didnt expect the SC intervention
- Travis Steele and XU part ways abruptly during NIT tourney, this is a show of good faith by XU to Miller
- XU NIT games will all be played with no head coach announcement
- Sean Miller announced AFTER XU is out of the NIT. This gives them a saving face window that the above didnt really happen the way I think it went down, and also gives them a window to "conduct a national search" which is lip-service at best.

The thing about this timeline is that you have the benefit of knowing how a bunch of events turned out that we're not determined at the time the first "domino falls" in your scenario.

When Miller was in town for the UConn game we were 16-7 overall, and 6-6 in conference. We won the Uconn Game. We were solidly in the NCAA with a seed in the 6-9 range. If we just split our last 6 games, we wind up 10-9 in conference. If we win one or 2 tourney games, Steele is probably looking at an extension.

NOBODY would have been having private discussions (and the ability to make it happen) about Miller replacing Steel at that point. The chances that we would end the season in a tailspin seemed remote at best and all signs pointed to a solid season overall, certainly enough to save Steeles job. if there is any truth (I beleive there is) that we needed to shake down some big wig donors for the termination cost for Steele, then it FURTHER supports that the AD would never give any indication to Miller that Steele may be gone and Miller could be the guy. Greg would not have had the ability to ACT on that discussion, so I doubt it would have occurred.

I get the idea that we can look back and see this narrative. It fits in retrospect. But it didn't fit prospectively.

Also, I dont see ANY reason why they would artificially delay ANY announcement if it's Miller. Who gives a shit how it went down or what people think. We made a coaching change. You dont think there are backroom discussions involved in most coaching changes and we never hear a peep. Why would we think we would need to explain or be obligated to answer any questions?

I would actually think it makes MORE sense to expedite the hiring, especially if it's Miller. Get him in front of the TEAM ASAP to re-set the vision and make sure he understands where each player is at mentally. Some guys may be resigned to transferring. It's important for Miller to know that. Some guys might be on the fence and Miller may nudge them one direction or the other....

...and the recruits. We need to get in front of them quick, and a) determine if Miller would WANT those players (do they fit in his system) and b) determine if we should COUNT ON them being around.

Final thought. Miller is NOT currently under any contract. He could visit or meet with ANY player out there without violating any rules. And by ANY player I mean, our current guys, our recruits, other recruits that have committed elsewhere, or other current players on different teams. Wondering if the little delay may be cover for some covert discussions that are occurring (btw, this could be the case no matter WHERE he is getting hired.....)

[D-West & PO-Z]

tjust wondering----is that from a reputable source? Like from Rick B or?

Wondering what is the delay here then..schools vetting him like crazy or is he struggling with a decision, or being courted by other teams?

I think the longer this goes, the better it is for us. SC had a big head start on this, if he wanted to go there, I feel like a deal with them would be done.

Xavier obviously flipped a switch with out late season collapse, BE tourney loss, and missed NCAA bid. SC has probably known for over a month they were getting rid of Frank. X has maybe known for sure they were getting rid of Steele, for what, a week?

From the rumors I am hearing, I feel fairly confident X and Miller want this to work and something will get done eventually. Could be wrong, but I am feeling relatively good.

[muskiefan82]

Final thought. Miller is NOT currently under any contract. He could visit or meet with ANY player out there without violating any rules. And by ANY player I mean, our current guys, our recruits, other recruits that have committed elsewhere, or other current players on different teams. Wondering if the little delay may be cover for some covert discussions that are occurring (btw, this could be the case no matter WHERE he is getting hired.....)

This is a point I had not considered and one that is very interesting.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Is there any reason to think X is truly considering Miller (and that he is considering X)? Has anything been substantiated by anyone in the know, anyone who has reliable sources? I’m not asking for sources to be named, just wondering if anyone can confirm the rumors.

Yes, both are absolutely interested. Doesn't mean it will happen, but yes.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I've seen some things from Rick B that I haven't posted here for obvious reasons, but he seems to have the best pulse on this.

I don't know that anything we see on Twitter can be believed unless it's coming from him or those like him.

Even Rick and SC people (I guess similar to a Rick for them) have had to walk things back they have reported. Lots of rumors and misinformation flying out there.

[D-West & PO-Z]

The thing about this timeline is that you have the benefit of knowing how a bunch of events turned out that we're not determined at the time the first "domino falls" in your scenario.

When Miller was in town for the UConn game we were 16-7 overall, and 6-6 in conference. We won the Uconn Game. We were solidly in the NCAA with a seed in the 6-9 range. If we just split our last 6 games, we wind up 10-9 in conference. If we win one or 2 tourney games, Steele is probably looking at an extension.

NOBODY would have been having private discussions (and the ability to make it happen) about Miller replacing Steel at that point. The chances that we would end the season in a tailspin seemed remote at best and all signs pointed to a solid season overall, certainly enough to save Steeles job. if there is any truth (I beleive there is) that we needed to shake down some big wig donors for the termination cost for Steele, then it FURTHER supports that the AD would never give any indication to Miller that Steele may be gone and Miller could be the guy. Greg would not have had the ability to ACT on that discussion, so I doubt it would have occurred.

I get the idea that we can look back and see this narrative. It fits in retrospect. But it didn't fit prospectively.

Also, I dont see ANY reason why they would artificially delay ANY announcement if it's Miller. Who gives a shit how it went down or what people think. We made a coaching change. You dont think there are backroom discussions involved in most coaching changes and we never hear a peep. Why would we think we would need to explain or be obligated to answer any questions?

I would actually think it makes MORE sense to expedite the hiring, especially if it's Miller. Get him in front of the TEAM ASAP to re-set the vision and make sure he understands where each player is at mentally. Some guys may be resigned to transferring. It's important for Miller to know that. Some guys might be on the fence and Miller may nudge them one direction or the other....

...and the recruits. We need to get in front of them quick, and a) determine if Miller would WANT those players (do they fit in his system) and b) determine if we should COUNT ON them being around.

Final thought. Miller is NOT currently under any contract. He could visit or meet with ANY player out there without violating any rules. And by ANY player I mean, our current guys, our recruits, other recruits that have committed elsewhere, or other current players on different teams. Wondering if the little delay may be cover for some covert discussions that are occurring (btw, this could be the case no matter WHERE he is getting hired.....)

Spot on.

[BandAid]

I know nothing, but I would've expected the SC announcement to have come quickly considering how much smoke they were putting out.

[atljar]

The thing about this timeline is that you have the benefit of knowing how a bunch of events turned out that we're not determined at the time the first "domino falls" in your scenario.

When Miller was in town for the UConn game we were 16-7 overall, and 6-6 in conference. We won the Uconn Game. We were solidly in the NCAA with a seed in the 6-9 range. If we just split our last 6 games, we wind up 10-9 in conference. If we win one or 2 tourney games, Steele is probably looking at an extension.

NOBODY would have been having private discussions (and the ability to make it happen) about Miller replacing Steel at that point. The chances that we would end the season in a tailspin seemed remote at best and all signs pointed to a solid season overall, certainly enough to save Steeles job. if there is any truth (I beleive there is) that we needed to shake down some big wig donors for the termination cost for Steele, then it FURTHER supports that the AD would never give any indication to Miller that Steele may be gone and Miller could be the guy. Greg would not have had the ability to ACT on that discussion, so I doubt it would have occurred.

I get the idea that we can look back and see this narrative. It fits in retrospect. But it didn't fit prospectively.

Also, I dont see ANY reason why they would artificially delay ANY announcement if it's Miller. Who gives a shit how it went down or what people think. We made a coaching change. You dont think there are backroom discussions involved in most coaching changes and we never hear a peep. Why would we think we would need to explain or be obligated to answer any questions?

I would actually think it makes MORE sense to expedite the hiring, especially if it's Miller. Get him in front of the TEAM ASAP to re-set the vision and make sure he understands where each player is at mentally. Some guys may be resigned to transferring. It's important for Miller to know that. Some guys might be on the fence and Miller may nudge them one direction or the other....

...and the recruits. We need to get in front of them quick, and a) determine if Miller would WANT those players (do they fit in his system) and b) determine if we should COUNT ON them being around.

Final thought. Miller is NOT currently under any contract. He could visit or meet with ANY player out there without violating any rules. And by ANY player I mean, our current guys, our recruits, other recruits that have committed elsewhere, or other current players on different teams. Wondering if the little delay may be cover for some covert discussions that are occurring (btw, this could be the case no matter WHERE he is getting hired.....)

While I really appreciate your viewpoint here, and I do 100% agree with your retrospective versus perspective comments, the one glaring argument I would have is this:

Regardless of where we were at in the season and our W/L record, it was painfully obvious to many of us that things weren't well in XU land. To think Steel's seat wasn't getting warm would be mightily blissful, even with a tourney appearance. The season ending tailspin was most definitely the final nail in the coffin, but I truly believe the other nails were already pretty well implanted which makes my narrative significantly more probable.

[bjf123]

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[OTRMUSKIE]

At this point the idea of miller coming back has dwindled from euphoria to whatever. If he comes great, if he doesn't go get Murray states head coach. Although, I have a feeling UK might have something to do with that if Cal resigns and I got to believe he does. He bought a house in Nashville. Go coach vandy and enjoy your life.

[drudy23]

Even Rick and SC people (I guess similar to a Rick for them) have had to walk things back they have reported. Lots of rumors and misinformation flying out there.

Agree - but he seems to be constantly working the phones and his contacts. The other stuff seems to be more of "my brother's sister's nephew's neighbor" heard.....

[XU_Lou]

For a little comic relief:

https://twitter.com/TristanDixon17/status/1504848952444825616

[MHettel]

While I really appreciate your viewpoint here, and I do 100% agree with your retrospective versus perspective comments, the one glaring argument I would have is this:

Regardless of where we were at in the season and our W/L record, it was painfully obvious to many of us that things weren't well in XU land. To think Steel's seat wasn't getting warm would be mightily blissful. The season ending tailspin was most definitely the final nail in the coffin, but I truly believe the other nails were already pretty well implanted which makes my narrative significantly more probable.

I agree somewhat. if it really came down to a razor's edge on firing Steele or not, then the tailspin made the difference......except for the fact that we still had to find the $$$ for his buyout. If that was the big issue, and it took the complete flop we did to finally cause a donor to cough up the money, then I believe that maybe one more win might have been enough for us to slide into the NCAAs and in that case I assume the money isnt available to make the move, even IF we wanted to.

All the pieces just really needed to fall exactly how they did to get us into this situation. Just one more piece before we get to experience what some would call serendipity.

[STL_XUfan]

We have officially reached the 'flight tracking' stage of the coaching search.

During the last Mizzou coaching search, a rumor got out that we had hired Jay Wright and that there was a flight coming in from Philly that had Wright on it. So a bunch of news crews were reporting live from the Columbia airport when the plane unloaded. Turned out to be a group of guys that did a golf day trip to Philly.

Needless to say, I love Flight Tracker season.

[XU_Lou]

Maybe the smoke coming out of SC was more of a screen? This seems to be relatively good news:

"Former Arizona coach Sean Miller has been contacted and is intrigued by the position, sources close to the situation told The Post and Courier. Yet there are other jobs that are piquing his interest.

Now it’s a waiting game. An announcement, sources confirmed, is unlikely to come this weekend. The Gamecocks want to interview other candidates and do not want to draw attention away from their top-seeded women’s basketball team, which is hosting the first two rounds of the NCAA Tournament."


"Other known candidates for USC that have been contacted or scheduled for interviews include: Cleveland State’s Dennis Gates, Chattanooga’s Lamont Paris, Furman’s Bob Richey and Wake Forest assistant coach BJ McKie. Gates’ season ended on March 15 when Xavier beat the Vikings in the NIT."


"McKie is expected to interview at some point. Several former USC players have lobbied for him to get the chance to be the Gamecocks’ head coach, a tactic that worked well for football coach Shane Beamer when he was hired."

https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/carolina/gamecocks-coaching-search-turns-to-former-arizona-coach-sean-miller/article_d434945a-a646-11ec-9044-d78901dcd5ce.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

[D-West & PO-Z]

While I really appreciate your viewpoint here, and I do 100% agree with your retrospective versus perspective comments, the one glaring argument I would have is this:

Regardless of where we were at in the season and our W/L record, it was painfully obvious to many of us that things weren't well in XU land. To think Steel's seat wasn't getting warm would be mightily blissful, even with a tourney appearance. The season ending tailspin was most definitely the final nail in the coffin, but I truly believe the other nails were already pretty well implanted which makes my narrative significantly more probable.

Yeah his seat was warm, but if he makes the tournament, especially as a top 10 seed which was very likely at the time, there is no way he is fired. So it really took a total collapse that could not have been predicted. (Well, some of us maybe predicted lol)

[D-West & PO-Z]

At this point the idea of miller coming back has dwindled from euphoria to whatever. If he comes great, if he doesn't go get Murray states head coach. Although, I have a feeling UK might have something to do with that if Cal resigns and I got to believe he does. He bought a house in Nashville. Go coach vandy and enjoy your life.

Your posts are exhausting......

[D-West & PO-Z]

Agree - but he seems to be constantly working the phones and his contacts. The other stuff seems to be more of "my brother's sister's nephew's neighbor" heard.....

Of for sure Rick has better info than 99% of people.

[GoMuskies]

Turned out to be a group of guys that did a golf day trip to Philly.


Was one of those guys Jay Wright?

[Blue Blooded-05]

Agree - but he seems to be constantly working the phones and his contacts. The other stuff seems to be more of "my brother's sister's nephew's neighbor" heard.....

So in other words, your nephew's neighbor. That's not too far removed. What did he say?

[drudy23]

So in other words, your nephew's neighbor. That's not too far removed. What did he say?

He said he heard it’s likely going to be the bag head guy. That guy will take us to the promised land.

[Blue Blooded-05]

He said he heard it’s likely going to be the bag head guy. That guy will take us to the promised land.

Hahaha... No matter who ends up as our next coach, I think we can all agree bag head guy needs to become our 3rd mascot

[D-West & PO-Z]

He said he heard it’s likely going to be the bag head guy. That guy will take us to the promised land.

I could get behind that!

[American X]

During the last Mizzou coaching search, a rumor got out that we had hired Jay Wright and that there was a flight coming in from Philly that had Wright on it. So a bunch of news crews were reporting live from the Columbia airport when the plane unloaded. Turned out to be a group of guys that did a golf day trip to Philly.

Ahh, the famous fairways and greens of Philadelphia.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Ahh, the famous fairways and greens of Philadelphia.

Right? LMAO

[bjf123]

At least he admitted he was wrong.

https://twitter.com/Mike_Uva/status/1504857117135622148


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[D-West & PO-Z]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33536679/source-florida-gators-targeting-san-francisco-todd-golden-next-men-basketball-coach

If this is accurate, takes FL out of Miller running, if they were ever really involved.

[bobbiemcgee]

Golfers?


https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GAJ850

[UCGRAD4X]

Final thought. Miller is NOT currently under any contract. He could visit or meet with ANY player out there without violating any rules. And by ANY player I mean, our current guys, our recruits, other recruits that have committed elsewhere, or other current players on different teams. Wondering if the little delay may be cover for some covert discussions that are occurring (btw, this could be the case no matter WHERE he is getting hired.....)

It sounds like this would be not 'against the rules' but with the baggage, real or perceived, it would probably be wise to avoid this.

[atljar]

Someone on here is near enough to Lunken to check. Landing in 10 min!

[bobbiemcgee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USfKJYZcUmI

[atljar]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ex6KALpVoAEcFu7?format=jpg&name=small

[Tim]

Omg! Is this legit?
And a blue tie!

[atljar]

Omg! Is this legit?
And a blue tie!

NO, This is just how rumors get started. LOL.

[bobbiemcgee]

nice try:

https://cdn.radarbox.com/photo/N850UP-1642107698-0.jpg

[smileyy]

Blue livery! It's a sign!

[xavbball]

no, this is just how rumors get started. Lol.

"We got him bois!!!"

[GoMuskies]

If I choose to believe it's real, then it's real. In my mind.

[Blue Blooded-05]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ex6KALpVoAEcFu7?format=jpg&name=small

LOL!

So... 4:00 presser, then?

[D-West & PO-Z]

I mean havent we established Miller was not in Columbia last night?

[MHettel]

LOL!

So... 4:00 presser, then?

Not impressed. I'm sure Jimmy Kimmel has been on a plane ALOT of times. Doesnt mean anything

[D-West & PO-Z]

"We got him bois!!!"

HA! Reps!

[muskiefan82]

Ah yes, the time traveling jet from the past...

[MHettel]

I mean havent we established Miller was not in Columbia last night?

If you are correct, then this just means there was a charted flight with nobody on it, just to keep us guessing.

this is getting weird

[bobbiemcgee]

LOL!

So... 4:00 presser, then?

Jeff Ruby's

[atljar]

Jeff Ruby's

In the back room, with another D1 coach

[bobbiemcgee]

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/college/article259503174.html

also check out the twitter lol

[IM4X]

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/college/article259503174.html

also check out the twitter lol

Looks he is off a bit with what Steele was making - about 500k, if the numbers someone here shared (with the link that backed it up) were correct. I also thoughr Miller made more than $2.9 million at Arizona. I would imagine we could at least match the number.

[noteggs]

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/college/article259503174.html

also check out the twitter lol

At least they edited article since they were calling us a mid-major lol

[Tim]

I know absolutely nothing but my take is Miller wants X. X is vetting him, hence the delay. Miller is trying to keep his options open and his suitors happy and at bay simultaneously while waiting on X.

[muskiefan82]

Miller is demanding that Mario schedule URI-Nation for a home and home as one of his must-haves. X is trying to find space for them in the schedule.

[Dblue]

I know absolutely nothing but my take is Miller wants X. X is vetting him, hence the delay. Miller is trying to keep his options open and his suitors happy and at bay simultaneously while waiting on X.

Has there ever been an external coach hired/announced within 48 hours of the opening? Even if there was a mutual agreement on Wednesday, I'm sure due diligence, documenting the contract, lawyers and agents reviewing the documents, etc all take time.

The whole world new Mack was heading to Louisville and it took them over a week to formally announce it.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Has there ever been an external coach hired/announced within 48 hours of the opening? Even if there was a mutual agreement on Wednesday, I'm sure due diligence, documenting the contract, lawyers and agents reviewing the documents, etc all take time.

The whole world new Mack was heading to Louisville and it took them over a week to formally announce it.

Good point, but when did legit reports from credible sources confirming it being inevitable come out? I really can't remember how quickly we knew even thought we didnt officially know.

[noteggs]

Mike White was hired 3 days after Crean was fired. Now granted, everyone knew Crean was a dead man walking.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Mike White was hired 3 days after Crean was fired. Now granted, everyone knew Crean was a dead man walking.

We are on only on day 2 now. Although it feels like forever ago.

[xu82]

We are on only on day 2 now. Although it feels like forever ago.

Yes. Yes it does feel like forever.

The odd timing of the firing mid-NIT after a win is encouraging in a way. It happened then for an reason. Something was afoot. Steele had to go, but it was more than that according to the timing. I was eager to have it be Miller as a “sure thing”, but it had to be somebody else, period. The longer we wait, the more I fear it won’t be Miller for some reason. The only reason I can think of is money. We have the facilities, the conference affiliation and the reputation. The other schools involved in the FBI investigation are still up and running, so I’m not afraid of the NCAA. I do understand there may be some checking that needs to be done, and it may take a little time to deal with that and all the details.

Thank you for pointing out how little time has passed. It feels like a lifetime, when in fact this just happened and there are a lot of things to nail down.

[XUBison]

He said he heard it’s likely going to be the bag head guy. That guy will take us to the promised land.

I hope so. When I told my wife about Baghead Guy a couple days ago, her immediate response was, “I bet it was Sean Miller.”

[OTRMUSKIE]

I was lucky enough to purchase that paper bag on eBay. The description said brown paper bag worn by Miller. Now I guess it could have been anybody name Miller but the water damage to the bag has me believing it was def Sean Miller https://jenniemarino.com/a-greasy-bag/

[xu82]

I was lucky enough to purchase that paper bag on eBay. The description said brown paper bag worn by Miller. Now I guess it could have been anybody name Miller but the water damage to the bag has me believing it was def Sean Miller https://jenniemarino.com/a-greasy-bag/

Did you also pay $580k for Tom Brady’s “last TD ball” hours before he announced he was coming back?

[xuphan]

Did you also pay $580k for Tom Brady’s “last TD ball” hours before he announced he was coming back?

What’s the latest on the coach search? Any news or information so far?