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JTG
03-14-2022, 04:32 PM
I emailed Pres Hanycz last evening about Coach Steele. I was polite, telling her many Alums, like myself are tired of embarrassing losses and failed seasons. Suggesting she release Steele and hire Sean Miller. Saying that this would bring excitement and pride back to Victory Pkwy.
I received an email this afternoon from Nancy Downing, her Exec Asst. thanking me for my thoughts and concerns about the basketball program. And that she will share the email with the President Hanycz. Oh, and she CC my email and her reply to Greg Christopher.
So, if you all are serious, which I assume most on here are, flooding her office with emails would get the point across that it's not just idle chatter on a message board.
The address is president@xavier.edu and Christopher's is athleticdirector@xavier.edu.

X-band '01
03-14-2022, 04:40 PM
You people do realize her last stop, don't you? Another program where basketball is taken real seriously, I'm sure.

Maybe we should explore that part of her background.

Mel Cooley XU'81
03-14-2022, 04:45 PM
Graham was clairvoyant.

xuphan
03-14-2022, 04:54 PM
I emailed Pres Hanycz last evening about Coach Steele. I was polite, telling her many Alums, like myself are tired of embarrassing losses and failed seasons. Suggesting she release Steele and hire Sean Miller. Saying that this would bring excitement and pride back to Victory Pkwy.
I received an email this afternoon from Nancy Downing, her Exec Asst. thanking me for my thoughts and concerns about the basketball program. And that she will share the email with the President Hanycz. Oh, and she CC my email and her reply to Greg Christopher.
So, if you all are serious, which I assume most on here are, flooding her office with emails would get the point across that it's not just idle chatter on a message board.
The address is president@xavier.edu and Christopher's is athleticdirector@xavier.edu.

So Christopher won’t respond to any of our emails but will respond from a CC email from the executive assistant? Also, thank you for taking initiative to help bring change to this program. Hopefully others will do the same as well.

xu82
03-14-2022, 05:00 PM
Graham was clairvoyant.

Does he know what we are all thinking? Is he willing to share it?

Xville
03-14-2022, 05:05 PM
Respectful email sent. Sent one to Greg and never got an answer. Shows what kind of spineless coward he is

xukeith
03-14-2022, 05:05 PM
I hope she gets 2000 emails.

Probably she will get no more than 50.

Rise up Xavier Nation!

It is now or never. The X program can only stop sinking if we make our honest and heartfelt opinions known.

xavierj
03-14-2022, 05:16 PM
I hope she gets 2000 emails.

Probably she will get no more than 50.

Rise up Xavier Nation!

It is now or never. The X program can only stop sinking if we make our honest and heartfelt opinions known.

Do you all think they don’t know fans are upset? Also do you all think Xavier is made of money? This is a really tough situation for Xavier. Make a change with a chance to fall even farther into crap and lose a ton of money or stay the course and continue this crap that maybe will eventually figure itself out and lose less money? I think one thing everyone needs to understand is that Xavier is not some state school with big time football and endless sources of cash. Make sure to see past this year when you go blasting the AD. Not an excuse to accept what we have seen, but understand what you are asking for.

OTRMUSKIE
03-14-2022, 05:18 PM
I emailed her

xukeith
03-14-2022, 05:18 PM
Sent my respectful plea to the president. Lets get this done ASAP

xukeith
03-14-2022, 05:23 PM
Do you all think they don’t know fans are upset? Also do you all think Xavier is made of money? This is a really tough situation for Xavier. Make a change with a chance to fall even farther into crap and lose a ton of money or stay the course and continue this crap that maybe will eventually figure itself out and lose less money? I think one thing everyone needs to understand is that Xavier is not some state school with big time football and endless sources of cash. Make sure to see past this year when you go blasting the AD. Not an excuse to accept what we have seen, but understand what you are asking for.

No. I do not think they have a clue at all. If they did we would have seen some signs this year and more over the past 4 years.

Getting Steele to admit he is struggling and needs assistance is a sign of strength, not delusion.

X is not Ohio State or University of Kentucky but they are not cheap either.

Many alumni pay a steep donation to help Xavier.
Universally X alumni have decided to freeze spending.

We want winning and not disastrous performances on and off the court.

Xville
03-14-2022, 05:32 PM
Do you all think they don’t know fans are upset? Also do you all think Xavier is made of money? This is a really tough situation for Xavier. Make a change with a chance to fall even farther into crap and lose a ton of money or stay the course and continue this crap that maybe will eventually figure itself out and lose less money? I think one thing everyone needs to understand is that Xavier is not some state school with big time football and endless sources of cash. Make sure to see past this year when you go blasting the AD. Not an excuse to accept what we have seen, but understand what you are asking for.

Well aware but thanks. There is enough money to do what needs to be done. Not as if it needs to be paid in one lump sum

GoMuskies
03-14-2022, 05:34 PM
At $22,385 per semester, Xavier really should be made of money.

xavierj
03-14-2022, 05:40 PM
At $22,385 per semester, Xavier really should be made of money.

Exactly… College is expensive and way over priced. It will be a dying breed eventually.

XUOWNSUC
03-14-2022, 05:41 PM
Miller won’t fail. Look what he did at Arizona (and Xavier).

Sadly, we won’t hire him because the leadership/administration at Xavier is afraid and clueless. Same goes for the big time donors. Travis is too much of a friend (or son-in-law) for anything to happen. Get ready for another crappy year.

XUBison
03-14-2022, 05:48 PM
No. I do not think they have a clue at all. If they did we would have seen some signs this year and more over the past 4 years.

Getting Steele to admit he is struggling and needs assistance is a sign of strength, not delusion.

X is not Ohio State or University of Kentucky but they are not cheap either.

Many alumni pay a steep donation to help Xavier.
Universally X alumni have decided to freeze spending.

We want winning and not disastrous performances on and off the court.

Public and private reps.

xavierj
03-14-2022, 06:01 PM
No. I do not think they have a clue at all. If they did we would have seen some signs this year and more over the past 4 years.

Getting Steele to admit he is struggling and needs assistance is a sign of strength, not delusion.

X is not Ohio State or University of Kentucky but they are not cheap either.

Many alumni pay a steep donation to help Xavier.
Universally X alumni have decided to freeze spending.

We want winning and not disastrous performances on and off the court.

Actually I think Xavier is cheap. They either can’t or are not willing to pay coaches in the top half of the Big East. UC pays coaches much more than Xavier pays its coaches. How do you get over that? You can’t just say well we are in the Big East and our fans have zero patience, so come here for less money… it will be awesome.. we are with you win or win. Good luck with that

GoMuskies
03-14-2022, 06:02 PM
Chris Mack was offered top half Big East money.

CP05XU08CU13
03-14-2022, 06:08 PM
I do not believe they are assessing the potential detrimental impact of bringing Steele back for another year equally with firing him and paying his buyout. The administration seems to be placing more weight on the latter. The ramifications of having another poor season and not making the NCAA tournament could have long-lasting effects both on and off the court for Xavier. I have mentioned it in another thread previously, but college athletics is a business. Plain and simple. It is not personal. Any CEO would be voted out by the board if they underproduced for four consecutive years. That is the nature of business. Xavier is a brand. When you damage that brand, you run a lot of risk especially when you consider how competitive the college landscape is. College is expensive. Need to have something that attracts students and puts the University on the map. I had a Professor at Xavier that once told me you cannot underestimate the positive financial impact that Xavier basketball has had on the school over the years.

xavierj
03-14-2022, 06:11 PM
Chris Mack was offered top half Big East money.

Again and he left for double that and he left the place where he played… Xavier has always been in the below half salary wise of the big east…

GoMuskies
03-14-2022, 06:22 PM
Again and he left for double that and he left the place where he played… Xavier has always been in the below half salary wise of the big east…

I'm not sure what Mack getting mega bucks from Louisville has to do with Xavier not being willing to pay top half of Big East rates for a coach. Xavier obviously has in the past been willing to do that .

xavierj
03-14-2022, 06:32 PM
I'm not sure what Mack getting mega bucks from Louisville has to do with Xavier not being willing to pay top half of Big East rates for a coach. Xavier obviously has in the past been willing to do that .

No they really haven’t. yeah supposedly they made a big offer to Chris Mack, who never was going to take it. But yeah don’t think they have ever paid a coach above $1.8 mil. Disagree with it but it’s reality. Much cheaper to pay the guy already in the chair next to the head coach. Xavier may be heading to a place they have never gone. Should be interesting to see how it works out.

markchal
03-14-2022, 06:47 PM
Xavier may be heading to a place they have never gone.

hiring an outside coach? Wasn't Matta a Butler HC before coming here? He wasn't in the Skip tree, the same way Miller/Mack/Steele came from him.

Xville
03-14-2022, 06:54 PM
No they really haven’t. yeah supposedly they made a big offer to Chris Mack, who never was going to take it. But yeah don’t think they have ever paid a coach above $1.8 mil. Disagree with it but it’s reality. Much cheaper to pay the guy already in the chair next to the head coach. Xavier may be heading to a place they have never gone. Should be interesting to see how it works out.

What narrative are you trying to spin here exactly? The offer was made. They are willing to pay for the correct coach.

It’s never been about money. Xavier could have matched Ohio state, Arizona, Louisville and it wouldn’t have mattered.

X is willing to give the money to the right coach, not going to do that for an unknown. No they don’t have stupid money to pay 5-6 million, but they have enough to be competitive and top 5 in the big east

xavierj
03-14-2022, 07:18 PM
What narrative are you trying to spin here exactly? The offer was made. They are willing to pay for the correct coach.

It’s never been about money. Xavier could have matched Ohio state, Arizona, Louisville and it wouldn’t have mattered.

X is willing to give the money to the right coach, not going to do that for an unknown. No they don’t have stupid money to pay 5-6 million, but they have enough to be competitive and top 5 in the big east

No spin and I hope that is the case but feel you will be disappointed in the end. Don’t have much faith in those in charge and have always felt Xavier had taken the easier, cheaper route. I think the fans may have different expectations than those in charge.

xavierj
03-14-2022, 07:21 PM
hiring an outside coach? Wasn't Matta a Butler HC before coming here? He wasn't in the Skip tree, the same way Miller/Mack/Steele came from him.

That was a long time ago and a much different conference landscape. If Xavier wants to do this right they better be willing to pay the new coach $3 mil plus… can they and are they willing? Put up or shut up. Stop trying to be cheap.

XUGRAD80
03-14-2022, 07:47 PM
I’ve emailed them both

joe titan
03-14-2022, 08:39 PM
hiring an outside coach? Wasn't Matta a Butler HC before coming here? He wasn't in the Skip tree, the same way Miller/Mack/Steele came from him.

For that matter Staak, Gillen were "outside" hires as well as Matta.

xavierj
03-14-2022, 09:44 PM
For that matter Staak, Gillen were "outside" hires as well as Matta.

Exactly and how long ago was that? It was different Financial Times. Today you want the better mid major coaches? To get the top guys you are probably starting at $2. Million. I don’t Think Xavier wants to do that. They would rather get a guy and pay under $1.5 million. I think Travis was around $1.3. Only way I would pull the trigger is if Sean said he would do it. He knows the deal with Xavier.

Cornbread1190
03-14-2022, 10:00 PM
If Xavier can’t afford Steele’s buyout.. then Christopher can take a pay cut to help.

Email was sent last evening..! No response back. I’m sure they’re extremely busy and will get back to me soon. Lol.

Nice press conference from Travis. He’s got both feet in and ready to run the tourney.. let’s go X!

OTRMUSKIE
03-14-2022, 10:00 PM
Most football schools hemorrhage money. Only a handful make a lot. Xavier has a tv contract that brings in millions. They are doing
Just fine and can afford to pay Steele his 3 million if it is even that high.

xavierj
03-14-2022, 10:12 PM
Most football schools hemorrhage money. Only a handful make a lot. Xavier has a tv contract that brings in millions. They are doing
Just fine and can afford to pay Steele his 3 million if it is even that high.

I don’t care what they pay Steele. My fear is that they won’t make the right hire or will be willing to pay enough to get the right guy. I have no confidence that the powers that be will do the right thing.

IM4X
03-14-2022, 10:18 PM
That was a long time ago and a much different conference landscape. If Xavier wants to do this right they better be willing to pay the new coach $3 mil plus… can they and are they willing? Put up or shut up. Stop trying to be cheap.

I’m not sure I want them paying a huge sum to another coach with a enormous buyout attached. I would think with someone in Sean’s position, we could negotiate a more reasonable initial salary + bonuses. A win-win. That’s really how it ought to be in coaching anyway. Paying exorbitant amounts to coaches who are not proven at the HC level or who come with baggage makes zero sense. The school is just asking for trouble down the road.

xu82
03-14-2022, 10:22 PM
I don’t care what they pay Steele. My fear is that they won’t make the right hire or will be willing to pay enough to get the right guy. I have no confidence that the powers that be will do the right thing.

There is one sure fire quality coach out there, and he happens to have ties to Xavier. He’s the guy I’d approach and be strict on expectations. Don’t be afraid of doing the smart thing. Arrange it so you don’t get burned if there is future trouble.

Backyard Champ
03-14-2022, 10:33 PM
I know I know..

But I’m beginning to think: Miller or Steele. If we can’t get Miller for some reason, I’m not sure I want to try to find the next big thing.

xu82
03-14-2022, 10:36 PM
I know I know..

But I’m beginning to think: Miller or Steele. If we can’t get Miller for some reason, I’m not sure I want to try to find the next big thing.

I’m all in because I want Miller. I worry about whiffing on the next guy, but I know FAR less about any of the options than most people here. I would trust Miller to fix it. It’s a rare opportunity. I’d jump at it.

Backyard Champ
03-14-2022, 10:45 PM
Exactly- I’m all in on the condition that we get Miller. Slightly more hesitant if it’s not Miller

xavbball
03-14-2022, 10:55 PM
I know I know..

But I’m beginning to think: Miller or Steele. If we can’t get Miller for some reason, I’m not sure I want to try to find the next big thing.

Quite frankly, the only reason Christopher should keep his job is if he can land Miller. His track record of coaching hires is horrendous. He was also the one who thought it was a great idea to extend Steele. If Steele stays another year, then Christopher must go. I'm sure someone on here will say, "well, he does a great job fundraising for us"...the best fundraising is done on the court. Have a good product; people give you more money.

xu82
03-14-2022, 11:20 PM
Where is Snipe when we need him? Somebody get him up in a few hours and put him to work!



Snipe, hope all is well, wherever you may be….


.

JTG
03-14-2022, 11:25 PM
Exactly- I’m all in on the condition that we get Miller. Slightly more hesitant if it’s not Miller

This is pretty much my position. If Miller wasn't out there and such a slam dunk, I'd be more hesitant about dumping Steele.

Masterofreality
03-14-2022, 11:26 PM
Nice press conference from Travis. He’s got both feet in and ready to run the tourney.. let’s go X!

That press conference could have been every and any press conference Steele has ever had. Same ol same ol. "this team is really good". "We'll have our hands full". 'Gotta be tough on the glass". "Gotta take care of the ball". "They're really well coached". blah, blah, blah....
Curious he didn't mention that they need to make free throws?
I thought he danced around Baum"s question about the process of deciding to play. I didn't specifically hear him say that the players voted to play or not. Just that "We" (whoever that is) were all in to play. Who is "We"? Steele and Christopher?
Steele says "I told our guys" a lot. And here he says, "I had a conversation with our guys" Did he "tell" them this was a chance to redeem themselves, or did that come from the players? Did he put it to a vote, or was the "conversation" that, hey guys, we've decided to play in the NIT, don't be "one foot in, one foot out"? He said "we didn't want for the season to end like it did against Butler". Again, was that Steele and Christopher or the players attitude? Not clear.
I'm not convinced that the "guys" were convinced to play this. I guess tomorrow night will tell.

xudash
03-14-2022, 11:34 PM
That press conference could have been every and any press conference Steele has ever had. Same ol same ol. "this team is really good". "We'll have our hands full". 'Gotta be tough on the glass". "Gotta take care of the ball". "They're really well coached". blah, blah, blah....
Curious he didn't mention that they need to make free throws?
I thought he danced around Baum"s question about the process of deciding to play. I didn't specifically hear him say that the players voted to play or not. Just that "We" (whoever that is) were all in to play. Who is "We"? Steele and Christopher?
Steele says "I told our guys" a lot. Did he "tell" them this was a chance to redeem themselves, or did that come from the players?
I'm not convinced that the "guys" were convinced to play this. I guess tomorrow night will tell.

How can they redeem themselves by playing in the NIT?

D-West & PO-Z
03-14-2022, 11:55 PM
Do you all think they don’t know fans are upset? Also do you all think Xavier is made of money? This is a really tough situation for Xavier. Make a change with a chance to fall even farther into crap and lose a ton of money or stay the course and continue this crap that maybe will eventually figure itself out and lose less money? I think one thing everyone needs to understand is that Xavier is not some state school with big time football and endless sources of cash. Make sure to see past this year when you go blasting the AD. Not an excuse to accept what we have seen, but understand what you are asking for.

Xavier should return to the A10 then. Seriously. If they can't afford to fire a bad coach and are forced to accept mediocrity due to fear of change and costs then what are we doing pretending we are a big time basketball school?

Everyone realizes Steele can't return next year with only 2 years left on his deal right? He will have to get an extension for recruiting purposes. There will always be a buyout.

And if the AD arranged a contract with a virtually unknown entity in coaching who had never been a head coach, that he couldn't get afford to get out of after 4 years of mediocrity, then he is a bigger issue than Steele.

Marquette was awful for years bc they kept Wojo around for way too long. We are well on our way to that best case scenario with Steele. Worst case we become Georgetown. Sweet.

D-West & PO-Z
03-15-2022, 12:00 AM
I don’t care what they pay Steele. My fear is that they won’t make the right hire or will be willing to pay enough to get the right guy. I have no confidence that the powers that be will do the right thing.

Accepting mediocrity due to fear of another bad hire is a horrible way to go. The Bengals did it for years with Marvin. You'll never get anywhere with that approach.

MHettel
03-15-2022, 01:09 AM
That press conference could have been every and any press conference Steele has ever had. Same ol same ol. "this team is really good". "We'll have our hands full". 'Gotta be tough on the glass". "Gotta take care of the ball". "They're really well coached". blah, blah, blah....
Curious he didn't mention that they need to make free throws?
I thought he danced around Baum"s question about the process of deciding to play. I didn't specifically hear him say that the players voted to play or not. Just that "We" (whoever that is) were all in to play. Who is "We"? Steele and Christopher?
Steele says "I told our guys" a lot. And here he says, "I had a conversation with our guys" Did he "tell" them this was a chance to redeem themselves, or did that come from the players? Did he put it to a vote, or was the "conversation" that, hey guys, we've decided to play in the NIT, don't be "one foot in, one foot out"? He said "we didn't want for the season to end like it did against Butler". Again, was that Steele and Christopher or the players attitude? Not clear.
I'm not convinced that the "guys" were convinced to play this. I guess tomorrow night will tell.

Steels always says "you gotta have amnesia to play in the Big East.

I find that ironic. Cause I fucking need Amnesia more than anything right now.

MHettel
03-15-2022, 01:12 AM
Xavier should return to the A10 then. Seriously. If they can't afford to fire a bad coach and are forced to accept mediocrity due to fear of change and costs then what are we doing pretending we are a big time basketball school?

Everyone realizes Steele can't return next year with only 2 years left on his deal right? He will have to get an extension for recruiting purposes. There will always be a buyout.

And if the AD arranged a contract with a virtually unknown entity in coaching who had never been a head coach, that he couldn't get afford to get out of after 4 years of mediocrity, then he is a bigger issue than Steele.

Marquette was awful for years bc they kept Wojo around for way too long. We are well on our way to that best case scenario with Steele. Worst case we become Georgetown. Sweet.

Imagine 20 years ago. Thinking "I hope we find a way into the Big East and we are as good as Georgetown."

We are at the doorstep

XUBison
03-15-2022, 01:59 AM
This is pretty much my position. If Miller wasn't out there and such a slam dunk, I'd be more hesitant about dumping Steele.

Ummm, why?

XUBison
03-15-2022, 02:03 AM
I know I know..

But I’m beginning to think: Miller or Steele. If we can’t get Miller for some reason, I’m not sure I want to try to find the next big thing.

One of these things is not like the other.

Xville
03-15-2022, 03:39 AM
What are some of you smoking? If not miller than hesitant about letting Steele go? Are you effing serious? Have you been paying attention the last four years? We know Steele is terrible, I’ll take the unknown.

Steele never says anything… it’s just a bunch of words and cliches..the guy is an absolute drain on the program

IM4X
03-15-2022, 05:04 AM
Steels always says "you gotta have amnesia to play in the Big East.

Uh…So that explains why he keeps making the same coach mistakes every game and repeats himself every press conference… he has amnesia.

UCGRAD4X
03-15-2022, 05:21 AM
Part of the idea of emailing the prez is to make her aware the extent of the financial repercussions of NOT canning the tin man.

markchal
03-15-2022, 08:27 AM
yeah, Steele has had plenty of time to figure it out. I think Miller would be a home-run who would stay a long time (this time). The guy is gonna win wherever he ends up, but...has anything this administration has done lately give you even the faintest bit of hope? Maybe if Bobinski and Graham were still in charge, I'd feel. better.

There are more coaches than Miller, though. And MANY of them would be better than Steele. It stinks that Louisville is also conducting a high-profile coaching search, since they are also a big program in the MW looking for a coach and they have a lot more $ than we do to throw at it.

boozehound
03-15-2022, 08:28 AM
Xavier should return to the A10 then. Seriously. If they can't afford to fire a bad coach and are forced to accept mediocrity due to fear of change and costs then what are we doing pretending we are a big time basketball school?

Everyone realizes Steele can't return next year with only 2 years left on his deal right? He will have to get an extension for recruiting purposes. There will always be a buyout.

And if the AD arranged a contract with a virtually unknown entity in coaching who had never been a head coach, that he couldn't get afford to get out of after 4 years of mediocrity, then he is a bigger issue than Steele.

Marquette was awful for years bc they kept Wojo around for way too long. We are well on our way to that best case scenario with Steele. Worst case we become Georgetown. Sweet.

This, 100%. If you are going to accept mediocrity then the A10 is a better place to be than the Big East. Buying out Travis Steele and then hiring a good coach shouldn't be a bridge too far for this program. At all. In fact, it's the bare minimum.

murray87
03-15-2022, 10:04 AM
Email has been sent.

XUGRAD80
03-15-2022, 10:18 AM
Sent the email last evening and got a response this morning. Basically just thanking me for my support and interest and promising to share my email with the President. Oh well, better than nothing I guess.

D-West & PO-Z
03-15-2022, 10:20 AM
What are some of you smoking? If not miller than hesitant about letting Steele go? Are you effing serious? Have you been paying attention the last four years? We know Steele is terrible, I’ll take the unknown.

Steele never says anything… it’s just a bunch of words and cliches..the guy is an absolute drain on the program

You wouldn't believe how much of this I am getting nd seeing on twitter. "There's no guarantee the next guy is any better"

Well yes, there is no guarantee, but we know Steele isn't any good. So we are just supposed to accept his mediocrity due to fear it might get worse?

murray87
03-15-2022, 10:31 AM
Already got this reply from the executive assistant to the president. Hopefully they're getting lots of input! Yes I was respectful:

First of all, we thank you for being a Xavier basketball fan. We are truly grateful and appreciate that support. Also, thank you for taking the time to send your heartfelt thoughts and concerns regarding Xavier’s basketball program. Please know that your email will be shared with President Hanycz.

Xville
03-15-2022, 10:32 AM
Sent the email last evening and got a response this morning. Basically just thanking me for my support and interest and promising to share my email with the President. Oh well, better than nothing I guess.

Yep just got the same email. At least it is a response unlike Greg.

Muskie
03-15-2022, 11:04 AM
Yep just got the same email. At least it is a response unlike Greg.

I mean what would you like Greg Christopher to say at this point, that he CAN say?

XU 23
03-15-2022, 11:05 AM
Yep, I sent an email, got the same response.

xuphan
03-15-2022, 11:13 AM
Awesome! Keep the email coming!

D-West & PO-Z
03-15-2022, 11:21 AM
I mean what would you like Greg Christopher to say at this point, that he CAN say?

He should absolutely reply to respectful emails. Well his assistant should at least with any number of patented responses to at least acknowledge someone read it. I gave an example of one in another thread. Or something like what the people emailing the president are getting in response.

Final4
03-15-2022, 11:21 AM
Respectful email sent. Sent one to Greg and never got an answer. Shows what kind of spineless coward he is

He's a "spineless coward" because he didn't respond to YOUR email? Is that really what you wanted to say?

Muskie
03-15-2022, 11:29 AM
He should absolutely reply to respectful emails. Well his assistant should at least with any number of patented responses to at least acknowledge someone read it. I gave an example of one in another thread. Or something like what the people emailing the president are getting in response.

I think ultimately you'll get some response. It is still the season after all.

MuskieFan5
03-15-2022, 11:31 AM
Email sent.

Fire Steele, Hire Miller!

XUBison
03-15-2022, 12:22 PM
I think ultimately you'll get some response. It is still the season after all.

What? Is he practicing his free-throws?

XUBison
03-15-2022, 12:23 PM
He's a "spineless coward" because he didn't respond to YOUR email? Is that really what you wanted to say?

Absolutely, yes.

SteveSpivery
03-15-2022, 12:39 PM
Speaking of money ... I have not looked recently, but back when Xavier was doing great, the basketball television ratings for X were low - much lower than big schools with mediocre or bad teams. I wonder how much of X's revenue comes from Fox Big East games and if that money will go way down if ratings are sown. I imagine the initial contract was based on past ratings when there were big schools in the league. Anyone know how television revenue is going and how often the contracts are negotiated? I wonder where we are on the current contract?

SCMuskie
03-15-2022, 12:55 PM
Speaking of money ... I have not looked recently, but back when Xavier was doing great, the basketball television ratings for X were low - much lower than big schools with mediocre or bad teams. I wonder how much of X's revenue comes from Fox Big East games and if that money will go way down if ratings are sown. I imagine the initial contract was based on past ratings when there were big schools in the league. Anyone know how television revenue is going and how often the contracts are negotiated? I wonder where we are on the current contract?

Here is an article about the contract:

https://ncaahoopsdigest.com/2021/06/18/the-big-easts-media-marriage-life-beyond-2025-with-fs1/#:~:text=The%20incumbent%20media%20deal%20with,tou rnament%20game%20appearance%20in%20March.


Some of the financials are about half way down the article.


There is no comparison of how X can afford to pay their coaches now that they are in the Big East and how the coaches from the previous league affiliations were compensated. X makes a lot more money from TV rights in the Big East compared to any league they have been in previously. Xavier should be able to pay a coach a competitive salary with the TV contract and full Cintas on a regular basis.

Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
03-15-2022, 01:05 PM
Here is an article about the contract:

https://ncaahoopsdigest.com/2021/06/18/the-big-easts-media-marriage-life-beyond-2025-with-fs1/#:~:text=The%20incumbent%20media%20deal%20with,tou rnament%20game%20appearance%20in%20March.


Some of the financials are about half way down the article.


There is no comparison of how X can afford to pay their coaches now that they are in the Big East and how the coaches from the previous league affiliations were compensated. X makes a lot more money from TV rights in the Big East compared to any league they have been in previously. Xavier should be able to pay a coach a competitive salary with the TV contract and full Cintas on a regular basis.

So if I read the information correctly, each B.E. school receives another $1.0 MM for each game they play in the NCAA tournament? If that's true, then we have lost, at minimum, $4.0 MM total, over the last four years under Steele. If you assume X plays in the tournament each of the last four years AND wins its opening round game, that's a total payout of $8.0 MM foregone.

Don't you think that lost revenue might receive some attention in the Administration?

Muskie
03-15-2022, 01:15 PM
So if I read the information correctly, each B.E. school receives another $1.0 MM for each game they play in the NCAA tournament? If that's true, then we have lost, at minimum, $4.0 MM total, over the last four years under Steele. If you assume X plays in the tournament each of the last four years AND wins its opening round game, that's a total payout of $8.0 MM foregone.

Don't you think that lost revenue might receive some attention in the Administration?

I'm pretty sure that's 1 mil per game for each team in the league which is then subdivided by all the teams in some fashion. I seem to remember that X, Creighton, and Butler were receiving less of a share for the first couple of years. So we still receive money because the conference overall plays in the tourney.

xucub
03-15-2022, 03:40 PM
Sent my letterr to the President and the Athletic Director. Asked them to not let the dreams of visionaries like Bill Daly, Fr. Hoff, and Skip Prosser be grounded by the current coaching staff. Suggested that while a contract buyout is costly to the University, doing nothing may be more costly in the long run.

About 3 hours after i sent my letter, i received the following form letter from the President's administrative assistant:
First of all, we are truly grateful and appreciate your support of Xavier and our basketball program, as an alum and fan. Thank you for taking the time to send your heartfelt thoughts and concerns regarding Xavier’s basketball program. Please know that your email will be shared with President Hanycz.

XUBison
03-15-2022, 05:01 PM
Here is an article about the contract:

https://ncaahoopsdigest.com/2021/06/18/the-big-easts-media-marriage-life-beyond-2025-with-fs1/#:~:text=The%20incumbent%20media%20deal%20with,tou rnament%20game%20appearance%20in%20March.


Some of the financials are about half way down the article.


There is no comparison of how X can afford to pay their coaches now that they are in the Big East and how the coaches from the previous league affiliations were compensated. X makes a lot more money from TV rights in the Big East compared to any league they have been in previously. Xavier should be able to pay a coach a competitive salary with the TV contract and full Cintas on a regular basis.

Correct. Don’t forget, our coaching position is now named for the Ice King. What was the point of that if we are going to keep dumpster diving with Steele— just to pay him more? He would have taken $500K to be our head coach. We should all be so lucky to have a Filbot.

Oh, by the way, my wife and I both just sent the email.

basket
03-16-2022, 08:53 PM
MAYBE this worked!?