Time for a change....

[D-West & PO-Z]

Go. Get. Sean. Miller. #savetheprogram

[XUOWNSUC]

100% this. Save the program!

[bleedXblue]

I 100% endorse this.

I have no faith that bonehead Christopher knows what he is doing.

He may need to go too.

[KabeX]

Go. Get. Sean. Miller. #savetheprogram
It really should be this easy. It's not. But it should be.

[markchal]

Completely agree. It needs to happen, but never will, and our AD shouldn't be spared from the fallout either...

[ServiceUnavailable]

For season after season we watched X get better as the season went on. For decades. What do we have now?

[GoMuskies]

I'm far from a big donor, but I'm good for $0 if he's retained. I will donate (will commit to topping my highest donation ever) if he is not retained.

[D-West & PO-Z]

For season after season we watched X get better as the season went on. For decades. What do we have now?

For sure. Its completer 180. Awful.

[xudash]

Go. Get. Sean. Miller. #savetheprogram

Totally agree. 100%.

The solution could not be any clearer.

[Xville]

yep if he isn't gone, i'm done until he is. Greg probably needs to go too, but ill let that go for now if he does what needs to be done. Sean should be the first call, if it isn't him just bring someone in who isn't gonna promise whatever bs basketball Steele has employed. Toughness, power forward u, chip on the shoudler..the three things this program was built on should be the prerequisites. Thats it.

[Cornbread1190]

I 100% endorse this.

I have no faith that bonehead Christopher knows what he is doing.

He may need to go too.

Yep! Time for Christopher to go along with Steele. Christopher did the exact same thing to the women’s program. He hired Brian Neal and let him totally ruin that program before sending him down the road.

Christopher’s has a track record that isn’t very good.

[KabeX]

Watching Johnnies and De Paul (because I want to watch an entertaining game for once). Raff just mentioned how tight X was. And that the mental part of the game is just as important. He's a hall of fame broadcaster and I like him but that's basketball 101. That's sports 101. That's Coaching 101. He is absolutely correct. This program is broken in many ways - mental being right at the top.

[XUBison]

We are going to find out over the next few weeks how serious X is about competing at the top of college basketball.

[Xavier]

Just a loss and I think Steele stays. Honestly losing the way they did may open that door again.

[xu82]

Go. Get. Sean. Miller. #savetheprogram

Saving the program is a lot like saving then school. I had never heard of Xavier before my older sister went there. Now when I wear Xavier gear around I get “GO X!” or talk about what a great program we have. Being a bottom feeder in the BE doesn’t get that attention and the same level of quality applications.

[drudy23]

We are going to find out over the next few weeks how serious X is about competing at the top of college basketball.

This.

This is what matters most. Fork in the road moment for those with their fingers on this decision.

If nothing changes, nothing changes.

Also don't think this can be a scapegoat situation where Steele cleans some staff to save himself.

The philosophy and strategy is not working. That's 150% on him.

[XUBison]

Just a loss and I think Steele stays. Honestly losing the way they did may open that door again.

The thing is, X is down the pecking order when it comes to Cincy media, so Steele and X may not have been feeling the heat they likely would have in many other markets. That said, Cintas will be brutal to Steele next year. I don’t know how, in good conscience, they can bring him back.

[SemajParlor]

Just a loss and I think Steele stays. Honestly losing the way they did may open that door again.

I agree with this. Had they just had a bad year for whatever the reason probably stays.

This trend, and to do it like that, almost in an impossible way... maybe the only silver lining here. That was pretty bad guys.

[TheDanimal]

Xavier teams are tough. Xavier teams rise to the occasion. Xavier teams make free throws. Xavier teams play hard and play together. Xavier teams have an offensive identity. Xavier teams improve. This is not a Xavier team... let it all turn over...

[Strange Brew]

Xavier teams are tough. Xavier teams rise to the occasion. Xavier teams make free throws. Xavier teams play hard and play together. Xavier teams have an offensive identity. Xavier teams improve. This is not a Xavier team... let it all turn over...

That’s the old way. The new way is find inexplicable ways to lose to Butler in must win situations.

[sgarcia]

I'm curious to know how many season ticket holders Xavier had this year if that is common knowledge somewhere and if Steele is retained, how many people will not renew for next season.

[OTRMUSKIE]

I won't be renewing of he is still here. There goes $400!

[drudy23]

I'm curious to know how many season ticket holders Xavier had this year if that is common knowledge somewhere and if Steele is retained, how many people will not renew for next season.

I will still watch, and I will still be a die-hard fan - but why am I putting down multiple thousands of dollars for a style and coach I simply don't enjoy watching? His teams are an odd mismatch of poorly skilled finesse with terrible decision making in a dog eat dog conference. It doesn't fit.

[xeus]

Here’s my winning ticket:

Mario Mercurio for AD
Sean Miller for Sedler Men’s Head Basketball Coach

[boozehound]

What a complete fucking loser Travis Steele is. I’m almost glad I don’t have to watch this team play another game this season. It’s just flat-out bad basketball. Missing free throws, major defensive lapses, horrible shooting, critical mental errors - this team really has it all!

[XUBison]

What a complete fucking loser Travis Steele is. I’m almost glad I don’t have to watch this team play another game this season. It’s just flat-out bad basketball. Missing free throws, major defensive lapses, horrible shooting, critical mental errors - this team really has it all!

You mean you’re not going to watch the NIt?

[xeus]

This.

This is what matters most. Fork in the road moment for those with their fingers on this decision.

If nothing changes, nothing changes.

Also don't think this can be a scapegoat situation where Steele cleans some staff to save himself.

The philosophy and strategy is not working. That's 150% on him.

Sadly, I think Travis is more than happy to find a scapegoat. Did you see his comments about the foul? Threw his fifth yr senior right under the bus.

https://mobile.twitter.com/fox19jeremy/status/1501729217934938112?s=10

Could have said, “It was unfortunate. These games are tough and there are high stakes and sometimes it doesn’t always go our way.”

[markchal]

Here’s my winning ticket:

Mario Mercurio for AD
Sean Miller for Sedler Men’s Head Basketball Coach

Thad Matta for AD (as long as we're throwing out just whoever for AD)

Sean Miller for coach.

[D-West & PO-Z]

You mean you’re not going to watch the NIt?

I'm normally for accepting an NIT bid (just not as often as we are offered one considering I'd prefer the real tourney). However, in this case, that would not be good news, bc if they are getting rid of Steele, they would not accept such a bid.

[drudy23]

There is zero reason for any fan to pay attention to anything related to the NIT this year.

What a complete, colossal, epic fucking meltdown.

[XU 23]

Save the program.

[Xville]

steele is a beta which makes his players a bunch of betas. Scruggs is the antithesis of what a 5th year senior should look like....its amazing what steele has done to some players on the xavier roster

Q
Paul
KyKy

Steele and his coaching is the antithesis of player development. He makes players worse.

[OTRMUSKIE]

I don't think he threw him under the bus. I think he told the truth. Scruggs has played college hoops 5 years. You should know by now you're not
Going to foul only up 2. That's on Scruggs.
For AD I go The Rock
Coach I go Gene Hackman

[xeus]

I don't think he threw him under the bus. I think he told the truth. Scruggs has played college hoops 5 years. You should know by now you're not
Going to foul only up 2. That's on Scruggs.
For AD I go The Rock
Coach I go Gene Hackman

Truth or not, as the Sedler Men’s Head Basketball Coach at Xavier University, you don’t say that in a public forum, especially about your 5th year starting senior point guard.

I give Coach Steele ZERO Xavier Way points.

[Xavier]

I think he was fed up. Only so many Scruggs plays you can handle, and with a dream job he worked his ass off for on the line…I’d probably share that too. It’s a 5th year, 24 year old senior. You can’t make that mistake then get treated with kids gloves after the game.

[American X]

Look, Travis Steele invested a lot of years into Xavier and he has a nice hoodie, but there is zero indication that he has the qualities to be the Sedler Men's Head Basketball Coach at Xavier University or that anything will improve going forward.

Make the change before it gets even worse.

[XUBison]

Truth or not, as the Sedler Men’s Head Basketball Coach at Xavier University, you don’t say that in a public forum, especially about your 5th year starting senior point guard.

I give Coach Steele ZERO Xavier Way points.

100% this. Who does that? This was Scruggs’ last meaningful game ever. He did not have to come back last year, let alone this year. If he was not prepared for that moment, after 5 years, then that falls on the coach. Period.

Scruggs will always be a Muskie, and a damn good one at that. Hopefully Travis is remembered as nothing more than a speed bump on the program’s path to the top.

[Backyard Champ]

100% this. Who does that? This was Scruggs’ last meaningful game ever. He did not have to come back last year, let alone this year. If he was not prepared for that moment, after 5 years, then that falls on the coach. Period.

Wait- all year people were upset with Steele sticking up for his players. He finally tells the truth and what we all saw: Paul thought we were up 3- and now fans are upset about that? His 5th year senior blew it- everyone saw exactly what happened- but it’s not okay for him to mention it?

[XUBison]

Wait- all year people were upset with Steele sticking up for his players. He finally tells the truth and what we all saw: Paul thought we were up 3- and now fans are upset about that? His 5th year senior blew it- everyone saw exactly what happened- but it’s not okay for him to mention it?

No, it’s not. And who was upset with him for sticking up for his players? I certainly wasn’t.

In fact, I only recall people bristling when he threw players under the bus, e.g., Stanley.

[Backyard Champ]

You must not have been visiting the board much these last few months. Which is completely understandable

[Strange Brew]

I think he was fed up. Only so many Scruggs plays you can handle, and with a dream job he worked his ass off for on the line…I’d probably share that too. It’s a 5th year, 24 year old senior. You can’t make that mistake then get treated with kids gloves after the game.

Well, Scruggs hit two circus shots to give Travis a shot at keeping his dream job so total coward move by Steele.

Also coach Freud, before your Sr goes to shoot one of the biggest FTs of his career is not the best time to give detailed instructions.

[xu82]

100% this. Who does that? This was Scruggs’ last meaningful game ever. He did not have to come back last year, let alone this year. If he was not prepared for that moment, after 5 years, then that falls on the coach. Period.

Scruggs will always be a Muskie, and a damn good one at that. Hopefully Travis is remembered as nothing more than a speed bump on the program’s path to the top.


To be fair, he’s more than that, IMO. He’s been here many years, and he’s played an important role in our past success. He’s a good recruiter and the players are loyal to him.

The fact is, some guys are better if they are not in the first chair. You see this all the time in the NFL. A great coordinator finally gets a head coaching job, then you learn they were born to be coordinators. Travis has value, but he’s not in a role well suited to him.

It’s time to move on. Sean Miller would be my first choice, if that is possible. He will roll out a tougher team, physically and mentally, than what we have seen lately. Just one guy’s opinion.

[Strange Brew]

100% this. Who does that? This was Scruggs’ last meaningful game ever. He did not have to come back last year, let alone this year. If he was not prepared for that moment, after 5 years, then that falls on the coach. Period.

Scruggs will always be a Muskie, and a damn good one at that. Hopefully Travis is remembered as nothing more than a speed bump on the program’s path to the top.

He’ll likely be remembered as a giant pothole not a speed bump.

[XUBison]

You must not have been visiting the board much these last few months. Which is completely understandable

This is a revisionist narrative. Whether he threw players under the bus or not, many have complained Steele never owns any of it. Saying that Steele has “his guys” does not mean people want him to trash them in public.

[Xavier]

Well, Scruggs hit two circus shots to give Travis a shot at keeping his dream job so total coward move by Steele.

Also coach Freud, before your Sr goes to shoot one of the biggest FTs of his career is not the best time to give detailed instructions.

Yeah- telling a 5th year, 24 year old senior “if you make the free throw we will foul at half court” is pretty tough to grasp. How could anyone understand that instruction??

[bjf123]

I’m conflicted. Part of me wants a complete house cleaning of the coaching staff. Get rid of everyone and start over. If that happens, I think we’ll see a number of current players entering the transfer portal and some, maybe most, or all, of what is supposed to be the highest rated recruiting class ever, decommit. That probably means we become Georgetown for the next couple of years.

At the same time, keeping Steele doesn’t give me much faith that things will get better. We’d probably keep the current players who aren’t graduating and the incoming recruits. If he’s back, he definitely needs a Phil Martelli type on the bench with him. I’ve said it before that I want Travis to succeed because I think he wouldn’t be using X as a stepping stone to a bigger program.

Like I said, I’m conflicted.


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[XUBANDGRAD]

I’m conflicted. Part of me wants a complete house cleaning of the coaching staff. Get rid of everyone and start over. If that happens, I think we’ll see a number of current players entering the transfer portal and some, maybe most, or all, of what is supposed to be the highest rated recruiting class ever, decommit. That probably means we become Georgetown for the next couple of years.

At the same time, keeping Steele doesn’t give me much faith that things will get better. We’d probably keep the current players who aren’t graduating and the incoming recruits. If he’s back, he definitely needs a Phil Martelli type on the bench with him. I’ve said it before that I want Travis to succeed because I think he wouldn’t be using X as a stepping stone to a bigger program.

Like I said, I’m conflicted.


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4 years of the same shit. Nothing gets better if he stays.

[Xavier]

Honestly the transfer pool helps- you can build solid enough teams if the current guys leave. Especially if it’s a good coach

[SM#24]

If Steele is retained, I view it as the leadership of the school saying we are no longer prioritizing basketball as an important component of the university.

[SM#24]

Honestly the transfer pool helps- you can build solid enough teams if the current guys leave. Especially if it’s a good coach


Agree; fears of losing current/incoming players are overstated.

[Strange Brew]

Yeah- telling a 5th year, 24 year old senior “if you make the free throw we will foul at half court” is pretty tough to grasp. How could anyone understand that instruction??

Maybe Steele should have stood on a chair so he could look Scruggs in the eyes to make sure he understood the instructions?

[XUBison]

If Steele is retained, I view it as the leadership of the school saying we are no longer prioritizing basketball as an important component of the university.

I agree. I wish Fr. Hoff were still with us.

[drudy23]

If Steele is retained, I view it as the leadership of the school saying we are no longer prioritizing basketball as an important component of the university.

Yup - if anyone that was involved with the fantastic evolution of this basketball program still has any influence, now is the time to use it.

[XUBison]

Yup - if anyone that was involved with the fantastic evolution of this basketball program still has any influence, now is the time to use it.

Right? I believe Christopher was brought in because of his fundraising prowess. I suspect the university is quite content with him in this regard. Do they understand he, and the university, achieve this in great part because of the basketball program’s success? Time will tell.

[xu82]

Raise your hand if you are glad this season is over!

And I’m one of the resident optimists.

[Strange Brew]

Raise your hand if you are glad this season is over!

And I’m one of the resident optimists.

I guess but I miss the fun runs in the Conf Tourney and enjoying dreaming about magic NCAA runs and where we’ll see X players in the “One Shining Momemt” video.

[xavbball]

Raise your hand if you are glad this season is over!

And I’m one of the resident optimists.

For me, I'm not all that upset. Tonight's game should have convinced any remaining doubters that it's time for a change. I'd rather get this over with now than have another year or two of a mediocre coach at the helm.

[xudash]

Right? I believe Christopher was brought in because of his fundraising prowess. I suspect the university is quite content with him in this regard. Do they understand he, and the university, achieve this in great part because of the basketball program’s success? Time will tell.

I don’t think I can make this any clearer: the leadership of Xavier University fully understands the importance of the basketball program to the overall health and forward development of the university.

As most, if not all here know, Greg Christopher is more than just the Athletic Director. And yes, he is a very adroit fundraiser.

What none of us know, even though they know it’s importance, is whether or not they are willing to take the dramatic step now. Do they believe a “Coach K“ turnaround is still possible and that it will come next year? I hope not. We have witnessed nothing with this guy that suggests that he is the horse to ride long-term. Against that is the clear reality that Sean Miller is available and would certainly return to Victory Parkway. That simply is a remarkable opportunity available to us at this point, assuming the leadership’s understanding of the importance exceeds its concerns, whatever they are, over Sean Miller at Arizona.

Where does that leave us? That leaves us bummed out over another bad season, and absolutely clueless as to what is going to happen moving forward. Such a wonderful position to be in.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wait- all year people were upset with Steele sticking up for his players. He finally tells the truth and what we all saw: Paul thought we were up 3- and now fans are upset about that? His 5th year senior blew it- everyone saw exactly what happened- but it’s not okay for him to mention it?

Where is Steele's responsibility for owning that he obviously wasn't clear only to foul if the free throw was made? Clearly there was confusion. Steele needs to be crystal clear in his communication.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I’m conflicted. Part of me wants a complete house cleaning of the coaching staff. Get rid of everyone and start over. If that happens, I think we’ll see a number of current players entering the transfer portal and some, maybe most, or all, of what is supposed to be the highest rated recruiting class ever, decommit. That probably means we become Georgetown for the next couple of years.

At the same time, keeping Steele doesn’t give me much faith that things will get better. We’d probably keep the current players who aren’t graduating and the incoming recruits. If he’s back, he definitely needs a Phil Martelli type on the bench with him. I’ve said it before that I want Travis to succeed because I think he wouldn’t be using X as a stepping stone to a bigger program.

Like I said, I’m conflicted.


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I am concerned we become Georgetown if we KEEP Steele. Not if we get rid of him.

[Xavier]

It’s such a unique position to be in for Greg. Literally the mood around him and Xavier basketball flips 100% if he brought Miller back. He can put his faith (and job?) in a steele turn around next year (crazier things have happened, I know it’s hard to see it) or he can snag Miller- and bring instant credibility back, buys himself another 4 years minimum.

But at the end of the day it’s about the big donors. Do they like Steele, or would they be willing to help with buyouts, etc. I don’t know the Financial shape Xavier is in, maybe they can’t afford to make a move like that. It obviously isn’t as easy as we think. But Miller coming back fixes so much, it seems like a no brainer.

[xu82]

I don’t think I can make this any clearer: the leadership of Xavier University fully understands the importance of the basketball program to the overall health and forward development of the university.

As most, if not all here know, Greg Christopher is more than just the Athletic Director. And yes, he is a very adroit fundraiser.

What none of us know, even though they know it’s importance, is whether or not they are willing to take the dramatic step now. Do they believe a “Coach K“ turnaround is still possible and that it will come next year? I hope not. We have witnessed nothing with this guy that suggests that he is the horse to ride long-term. Against that is the clear reality that Sean Miller is available and would certainly return to Victory Parkway. That simply is a remarkable opportunity available to us at this point, assuming the leadership’s understanding of the importance exceeds its concerns, whatever they are, over Sean Miller at Arizona.

Where does that leave us? That leaves us bummed out over another bad season, and absolutely clueless as to what is going to happen moving forward. Such a wonderful position to be in.

Hear me out! (Anything that comes after that is typically hysterical! I aim to please!) How about we sign Sean as HC, and put Travis back where he belongs as the #2 and head of recruiting. We keep the current guys, and the incoming class. Final Four baby!

Yes, I’m a dreamer with few drinks in me. If you watched what I watched tonight, you can’t blame me. The best part was Ben Hur during commercials!

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Steele blaming it on Scruggs and not bringing him out is his try at saving his job. Guy is blaming who he can for the train wreck that has slowing been forming 2 months ago. We should never have been in this spot, it Steele’s stellar coaching put them in it. He never admitted his coaching shortcomings. It was always coach speak about toughness and shots falling and better prep. Steele is a phony who talks big but and delivers nothing. Wish him the best but he needs to go.

[xu82]

Steele blaming it on Scruggs and not bringing him out is his try at saving his job. Guy is blaming who he can for the train wreck that has slowing been forming 2 months ago. We should never have been in this spot, it Steele’s stellar coaching put them in it. He never admitted his coaching shortcomings. It was always coach speak about toughness and shots falling and better prep. Steele is a phony who talks big but and delivers nothing. Wish him the best but he needs to go.

Steele didn’t point out this was vs #9 seed Butler, I’m guessing?

[XUBison]

I don’t think I can make this any clearer: the leadership of Xavier University fully understands the importance of the basketball program to the overall health and forward development of the university.

As most, if not all here know, Greg Christopher is more than just the Athletic Director. And yes, he is a very adroit fundraiser.

What none of us know, even though they know it’s importance, is whether or not they are willing to take the dramatic step now. Do they believe a “Coach K“ turnaround is still possible and that it will come next year? I hope not. We have witnessed nothing with this guy that suggests that he is the horse to ride long-term. Against that is the clear reality that Sean Miller is available and would certainly return to Victory Parkway. That simply is a remarkable opportunity available to us at this point, assuming the leadership’s understanding of the importance exceeds its concerns, whatever they are, over Sean Miller at Arizona.

Where does that leave us? That leaves us bummed out over another bad season, and absolutely clueless as to what is going to happen moving forward. Such a wonderful position to be in.

If they retain Steele, they no longer understand the importance of the basketball program. This is especially true if Miller is a viable option. #WhatWouldFatherHoffDo?

[SemajParlor]

I'm watching this close end to Seton Hall game and I'm having PTSD from earlier. Every close game I feel a pit in my stomach because of this X team.

[OTRMUSKIE]

It's millers job to lose. But can we afford a buyout and pay Miller? Is it possible Travis could buy himself out bc of how awful he is as a coach? Maybe Mack could give us a little green lettuce , he did F us over.

[Xville]

If x can’t afford a two year buyout, what are they doing in the big East, seriously..what’s the point? Why are they in this conference? Should have stayed in the a 10 if x is going to act like the little sisters of the poor

[IM4X]

I donÂ’t think I can make this any clearer: the leadership of Xavier University fully understands the importance of the basketball program to the overall health and forward development of the university.

As most, if not all here know, Greg Christopher is more than just the Athletic Director. And yes, he is a very adroit fundraiser.

What none of us know, even though they know it’s importance, is whether or not they are willing to take the dramatic step now. Do they believe a “Coach K“ turnaround is still possible and that it will come next year? I hope not. We have witnessed nothing with this guy that suggests that he is the horse to ride long-term. Against that is the clear reality that Sean Miller is available and would certainly return to Victory Parkway. That simply is a remarkable opportunity available to us at this point, assuming the leadership’s understanding of the importance exceeds its concerns, whatever they are, over Sean Miller at Arizona.

Where does that leave us? That leaves us bummed out over another bad season, and absolutely clueless as to what is going to happen moving forward. Such a wonderful position to be in.

https://m.facebook.com/millermongolia/videos/its-miller-time/2461296890796634/

[joe titan]

Where is Steele's responsibility for owning that he obviously wasn't clear only to foul if the free throw was made? Clearly there was confusion. Steele needs to be crystal clear in his communication.

Like maybe as soon as FT missed YELL "no fouls" a few hundred times. Coach Steele AND his staff (looking at you Dante) were all fast and sound
asleep.

[XUOWNSUC]

Yup.

[XUGRAD80]

If x can’t afford a two year buyout, what are they doing in the big East, seriously..what’s the point? Why are they in this conference? Should have stayed in the a 10 if x is going to act like the little sisters of the poor

It’s nice to know that we CAN agree on somethings! :lol: Yes, I totally agree with this statement. If X is going to be in a top conference then they are going to have to understand that getting rid of a coach that is not performing is part of the deal. They have done it in some of the other sports, now it’s time to do it in THE sport. Considering the amount of revenue that MBB produces via ticket sales, TV, and league shared money, I can’t really believe that they haven’t set aside money just for this possibility. Changing coaches at this point should be considered an investment in the future of the program, not a liability. If they can’t afford it, or can’t figure out a way to afford it, they have no business trying to run with the big dogs and should get back on the porch with the Dayton’s and the Temple’s of the world.

[bleedXblue]

It’s nice to know that we CAN agree on somethings! :lol: Yes, I totally agree with this statement. If X is going to be in a top conference then they are going to have to understand that getting rid of a coach that is not performing is part of the deal. They have done it in some of the other sports, now it’s time to do it in THE sport. Considering the amount of revenue that MBB produces via ticket sales, TV, and league shared money, I can’t really believe that they haven’t set aside money just for this possibility. Changing coaches at this point should be considered an investment in the future of the program, not a liability. If they can’t afford it, or can’t figure out a way to afford it, they have no business trying to run with the big dogs and should get back on the porch with the Dayton’s and the Temple’s of the world.

Its pick your poison to me:

Pay the buyout and hire a coach who the fans can get behind or
Go cheap, lose season ticket holders and donations and continue down the path to the abyss

[XUGRAD80]

Its pick your poison to me:

Pay the buyout and hire a coach who the fans can get behind or
Go cheap, lose season ticket holders and donations and continue down the path to the abyss

I don't see how the 1st scenario is "poison". It may hurt in the short-term, but if they pick the right person the payoff in the long-term will be much greater. The question is will X think short-term or long-term. If they make the wrong decision by going short-term, they will only make the long-term payoff much harder and costlier to achieve.

If X had gone the short-term path 40 years ago it quite possible that the BB program would still be at the level that Baker left it at. They made the right decision back then. let's hope they have the courage and foresight to make the right decisions now.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Travis Steele is 32-41 in the Big East, including BET.

The first time he plays a Big East team, his record is 18-18

The second or third time he plays a Big East team, his record is 14-23

How can this be explained by anything other than coaching? Opposing coaches are out-adjusting him between matchups while his M.O. of going 110% every practice every day is burning his players out by the end of the season.

Is there anyone who can provide a rational counter argument?

[Muskie]

Travis Steele is 32-41 in the Big East, including BET.

The first time he plays a Big East team, his record is 18-18

The second or third time he plays a Big East team, his record is 14-23

How can this be explained by anything other than coaching? Opposing coaches are out-adjusting him between matchups while his M.O. of going 110% every practice every day is burning his players out by the end of the season.

Is there anyone who can provide a rational counter argument?

This bench in my mind is to focused on analytics (I hear they track almost every metric) and playing the averages rather than making adjustments. There is a clear drop off when we face a team for the second or third time in a season. Travis isn't lying when he says they could do some damage in a tournament. Most of those teams haven't played us (which is why I think we tend to do well against OOC opponents).

[xuwillie]

Travis Steele is 32-41 in the Big East, including BET.

The first time he plays a Big East team, his record is 18-18

The second or third time he plays a Big East team, his record is 14-23

How can this be explained by anything other than coaching? Opposing coaches are out-adjusting him between matchups while his M.O. of going 110% every practice every day is burning his players out by the end of the season.

Is there anyone who can provide a rational counter argument?

Wonder what his record looks like against the top teams? 14 of those wins where probably against bottom tier teams. I'd also argue the Big East was pretty average up until this year which makes his record even worse in my eyes

[stammina0721]

As a parting gift let's give him back his 3g for the bar tab for UC wins. Good riddance. Inherit a 1 seed, made tournament his first year and hasn't been back the three subsequent years because of lack of preparation and being completely out coached. Yesterday was the pinnacle of this. I don't live in Cincy anymore but I can promise my merch purchases and general support will be at zero as long as he is at the helm.

Not being prepared for that last 10 seconds was the last straw for me.

[Blue Blooded-05]

As a parting gift let's give him back his 3g for the bar tab for UC wins. Good riddance. Inherit a 1 seed, made tournament his first year and hasn't been back the three subsequent years because of lack of preparation and being completely out coached. Yesterday was the pinnacle of this. I don't live in Cincy anymore but I can promise my merch purchases and general support will be at zero as long as he is at the helm.

Not being prepared for that last 10 seconds was the last straw for me.

Just to be clear, you're referring to the NIT as the "tournament"?


Wonder what his record looks like against the top teams? 14 of those wins where probably against bottom tier teams. I'd also argue the Big East was pretty average up until this year which makes his record even worse in my eyes

Ask and ye shall receive...

Wins and losses broken down by team and sequence:

Butler: Overall: 5-5. First Game: 3-1. 2/3 Game: 2-4
Creighton: Overall: 5-4. First Game: 1-3. 2/3 Game: 4-1
DePaul: Overall: 4-3. First Game: 3-0. 2/3 Game: 1-3
Georgetown: Overall: 4-2. First Game: 3-1. 2/3 Game: 1-1
Marquette: Overall: 2-6. First Game: 2-2. 2/3 Game: 0-4
Providence: Overall: 3-5. First Game: 2-2. 2/3 Game: 1-3
Seton Hall: Overall: 2-5. First Game: 0-4. 2/3 Game: 2-1
St. Johns: Overall: 5-3. First Game: 3-1. 2/3 Game: 2-2
UConn: Overall: 1-2. First Game: 1-1. 2/3 Game: 0-1
Villanova: Overall: 1-6. First Game: 0-3. 2/3 Game: 1-3

[murray87]

steele is a beta which makes his players a bunch of betas. Scruggs is the antithesis of what a 5th year senior should look like....its amazing what steele has done to some players on the xavier roster

Q
Paul
KyKy

Steele and his coaching is the antithesis of player development. He makes players worse.

This is a really good point and I'd put Freemantle in this group of players going backwards. And I worry that Steele is in the process of ruining Colby too.

#Savetheprogram

[xuwillie]

Just to be clear, you're referring to the NIT as the "tournament"?



Ask and ye shall receive...

Wins and losses broken down by team and sequence:

Butler: Overall: 5-5. First Game: 3-1. 2/3 Game: 2-4
Creighton: Overall: 5-4. First Game: 1-3. 2/3 Game: 4-1
DePaul: Overall: 4-3. First Game: 3-0. 2/3 Game: 1-3
Georgetown: Overall: 4-2. First Game: 3-1. 2/3 Game: 1-1
Marquette: Overall: 2-6. First Game: 2-2. 2/3 Game: 0-4
Providence: Overall: 3-5. First Game: 2-2. 2/3 Game: 1-3
Seton Hall: Overall: 2-5. First Game: 0-4. 2/3 Game: 2-1
St. Johns: Overall: 5-3. First Game: 3-1. 2/3 Game: 2-2
UConn: Overall: 1-2. First Game: 1-1. 2/3 Game: 0-1
Villanova: Overall: 1-6. First Game: 0-3. 2/3 Game: 1-3

Creighton is surprising but look at Depaul and Marquette. Should be fired on those numbers alone. Outcoached by Wojo and whoever Depauls coach is

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I watched the pressor, he lives in a different dimension. He either knows his lies are crazy or is just doling out coach speak to keep his job.

NIT is best they will get, but I hope they turn it down and clean house. He mentioned an emotional locker room, someone tell me he hasn’t lost most of it. Once a coach loses it he needs to go.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Creighton is surprising but look at Depaul and Marquette. Should be fired on those numbers alone. Outcoached by Wojo and whoever Depauls coach is
Stubblefield is a good coach but who knew that. Losing to Leitao is just terrible.

[American X]

It may be high time for a change and we can yell with our pitchforks all we want, but just understand that they will hire Jonas Hayes as the next head coach.

[A Fan]

Steele blaming it on Scruggs and not bringing him out is his try at saving his job. Guy is blaming who he can for the train wreck that has slowing been forming 2 months ago. We should never have been in this spot, it Steele’s stellar coaching put them in it. He never admitted his coaching shortcomings. It was always coach speak about toughness and shots falling and better prep. Steele is a phony who talks big but and delivers nothing. Wish him the best but he needs to go.

Just incomprehensible. Paul is a 24 year old senior in his 5 th year. He has played basket ball for half of life. Everyone knows that if you are up 3 with 25 or fewer seconds left and your opponent has the ball you foul at half court . Getting to half court burns some time, letting them get past half court gives them a 3 point shot. So you foul. Steele says to Paul before he goes to the free throw line: SMACK ( their code word). Steele did not say : “ Paul now if you make the free throw : SMACK . But if you miss the free throw : DON’T SMACK.
He was entitled to think Paul knew that. Paul lost the game. I feel horrible for him. But Steele did not lose THIS game.

[bleedXblue]

It may be high time for a change and we can yell with our pitchforks all we want, but just understand that they will hire Jonas Hayes as the next head coach.

Welp, I dont know enough about him honestly.

Any coach from this regime is going to be somewhat tarnished IMHO

[drudy23]

It may be high time for a change and we can yell with our pitchforks all we want, but just understand that they will hire Jonas Hayes as the next head coach.

Xavier?

If they do this, this would be a letdown of epic proportions. You don't fire then head coach and hire his assistant. What's the point of that?

[bleedXblue]

Just incomprehensible. Paul is a 24 year old senior in his 5 th year. He has played basket ball for half of life. Everyone knows that if you are up 3 with 25 or fewer seconds left and your opponent has the ball you foul at half court . Getting to half court burns some time, letting them get past half court gives them a 3 point shot. So you foul. Steele says to Paul before he goes to the free throw line: SMACK ( their code word). Steele did not say : “ Paul now if you make the free throw : SMACK . But if you miss the free throw : DON’T SMACK.
He was entitled to think Paul knew that. Paul lost the game. I feel horrible for him. But Steele did not lose THIS game.

sort of the kind of player we've seen over the years

To not know and make that mistake is nothing short of stupidity. Sorry, it is what it is

[drudy23]

sort of the kind of player we've seen over the years

To not know and make that mistake is nothing short of stupidity. Sorry, it is what it is

I could understand if he made a mistake with the score and thought we were up 3. At least that would make sense. It's a mistake.

But to know you're up 2 and foul anyway, as a 5th year Senior? That's just dumb. You don't need to be a 5th year Senior to know that. A heady grade school player knows that.

[American X]

Just incomprehensible. Paul is a 24 year old senior in his 5 th year. He has played basket ball for half of life. Everyone knows that if you are up 3 with 25 or fewer seconds left and your opponent has the ball you foul at half court . Getting to half court burns some time, letting them get past half court gives them a 3 point shot. So you foul. Steele says to Paul before he goes to the free throw line: SMACK ( their code word). Steele did not say : “ Paul now if you make the free throw : SMACK . But if you miss the free throw : DON’T SMACK.
He was entitled to think Paul knew that. Paul lost the game. I feel horrible for him. But Steele did not lose THIS game.


I could understand if he made a mistake with the score and thought we were up 3. At least that would make sense. It's a mistake.

But to know you're up 2 and foul anyway, as a 5th year Senior? That's just dumb. You don't need to be a 5th year Senior to know that. A heady grade school player knows that.

It's the Dee Davis Disease. A Senior making decisions that a Freshman would not make, a high school Freshman.

[MHettel]

Lets go back about 2 weeks.

Jack Nunge commits a boneheaded off the ball foul in OT while we were down 2 and Providence had the ball. This results in a flagrant foul, and Nunge fouling out. Providence got 2 FT attempts, AND the Ball back. In no way, shape or form was this a smart play.

Now lets figure out WHY this happened.

Option 1. Steele told Nunge to foul. In order to accept this, then you also must assume that Steele didnt realize that the foul would be a flagrant. You would also have to wonder if Steele knew that it was Nunge's 5th foul. There is a scenario where Steele DID know it was his 5th foul and he simply though he needed to foul in spite of that. But if that were the case, why not bring in Stanley and let HIM commit the foul? My conclusion is that if Steele ordered the foul, then it's a complete coaching blunder.

Option 2. Nunge went rogue and decided to foul on his own. If you accept THIS scenario, then you must also assume that NUNGE didnt know that it would be a flagrant. You would also have to accept the fact that either Steele provided no instructions for what the team should do in that scenario (leaving Nunge to decide on his own), or that Nunge ignored the instructions and decided to foul on his own. So which is worse? No instructions from the coaching staff at a crucial moment in the final moments of a key game.....or having players that have decided that coaching instructions are merely "suggestions."

I honestly cant tell you which of these options are worse. I can say for a fact that the incident DID occur, so we are down to 3 reasons why.
1. Steele told him to.
2. Steele didnt provide any coaching, so Nunge did it on his own.
3. Steele provided instructions that Nunge ignored.

But in any case, this happened. And we learned from it....right? I mean, we DID at least LEARN from this mistake, didnt we? It's inconceivable that we would go out and essentially commit an identical blunder in a "win or go home" game, right? I mean Steele for SURE spent a few minutes discussing end game strategy and covered some basic rules (like off the ball foul being flagrant) with the team.

I mean, after the Providence blunder and the associated adjustments that the staff made, we would be sure that the players had KEEN situational awareness and a complete grasp on end game strategy. And the coaches would convey CLEAR communications that was consistent with what was preached in practice. There would be no risk of a second blunder in this situation, right?

And while I look at the Providence situation and see really 3 different possible "reasons" why it occurred, the "Butler Blunder" (copyright pending) does call in a few more things to question.

We see the video of Scrugs saying "you said Smack" which was presumably directed at Steele. The big question is WHEN he told them to SMACK. If it was before the (missed) FT attempt, then it's pretty clear that the instructions were not refined enough to be clear that we SMACK only on a made FT. If he yelled it out AFTER the miss, then clearly Steele was the one who didnt know the score, and as a result looks WAAAAAY more incompetent for makin the horrible call.

But wouldn't Scruggs KNOW not to foul in that case? Lets say Steele yelled SMACK after the miss. Scruggs should have immediately known that he should most definitely NOT SMACK there. Unless of course Nunge got obliterated by the staff for going rogue and Paul learned a very precise lesson to execute the coaching instructions to a Tee or there will be "hell to pay." But we all know that Mr. Softy doesnt have that in him. So lets just land on the reality that Paul Scruggs, who has played the MOST GAMES and probably MOST MINUTES in program history didnt know the fucking score in the final moments of what will go down as his last college game. Even if STEELE DID tell them to SMACKL after the miss, Scruggs should have known not to do it.

I think the ONLY silver lining here is that this may have been the final nail in the coffin for Steele.

I'm literally hoping that on Sunday we dont make the Tourney. And on Sunday night we decline an NIT bid, and then on Monday morning Steele gets his much deserved pink slip for ruining this program. I'd like to have a new coach in place in less than a week, and a concerted effort to retain ALL retunring players and 2023 recruits. There will be some fallout, no doubt. Use the Transfer portal to shore up the roster.

Bring the luster back to the X.

[MHettel]

I could understand if he made a mistake with the score and thought we were up 3. At least that would make sense. It's a mistake.

But to know you're up 2 and foul anyway, as a 5th year Senior? That's just dumb. You don't need to be a 5th year Senior to know that. A heady grade school player knows that.

They should really consider making like this GIANT thing above the court that anyone could look at at any time to see the real-time score of the game. And then they could make like a half dozen more smaller versions of the same thing and put them all around the arena so that any person, at any time and in any location in the arena could just glance over and see the score. That might have helped Scruggs understand the score a little better.

[JTG]

My ideal scenario would be, No NCAA, turn down NIT, Monday morning Miller walks into Steele's office with a box. Tosses it to Steele, and says, "gather up your shit and get out, I'm here to clean up the fucking mess you made. "

[D-West & PO-Z]

My ideal scenario would be, No NCAA, turn down NIT, Monday morning Miller walks into Steele's office with a box. Tosses it to Steele, and says, "gather up your shit and get out, I'm here to clean up the fucking mess you made. "

YES!

#SaveTheProgram

[SM#24]

Raise your hand if you are glad this season is over!

And I’m one of the resident optimists.

I’m looking forward to the NIT.

[xukeith]

It is time to hire Travis Ford who is current coach at St. Louis.

He is experienced and he has been to Tourney with 3 different schools.

[D-West & PO-Z]

It is time to hire Travis Ford who is current coach at St. Louis.

He is experienced and he has been to Tourney with 3 different schools.

As a SLU alum and casual SLU basketball fan, no thanks. He is a decent recruiter at SLU but SLU has underachieved big time. They should have been a no doubt NCAA team last year and an A10 champion and they were very disappointing.

This year hes done a decent job as they lost their 2 best players from last year and had their best returning player go down for the year in the preseason. However, X can do better.

[xuphan]

It is time to hire Travis Ford who is current coach at St. Louis.

He is experienced and he has been to Tourney with 3 different schools.

It is not time to hire another Travis.

[SM#24]

If x can’t afford a two year buyout, what are they doing in the big East, seriously..what’s the point? Why are they in this conference? Should have stayed in the a 10 if x is going to act like the little sisters of the poor

Exactly

[xukeith]

Does anyone besides Scruggs know it was Steele, Jackson, Peters, or Hayes who said, "smack"?

[Xville]

It is time to hire Travis Ford who is current coach at St. Louis.

He is experienced and he has been to Tourney with 3 different schools.

yeah thats what we want...more mediocrity yay!

[xuphan]

If you want change, you need to flood Christopher’s email and voice mail with your opinions that Steele is not right to lead the program going forward.

[xu82]

If you want change, you need to flood Christopher’s email and voice mail with your opinions that Steele is not right to lead the program going forward.

Could you just email him for us and tell him to check xavierhoops.com? :-)

[American X]

It is time to hire Travis Ford who is current coach at St. Louis.

I like drinking in the afternoon too.

[Xville]

If you want change, you need to flood Christopher’s email and voice mail with your opinions that Steele is not right to lead the program going forward.

already done....it was very difficult to keep it professional

[xuphan]

Could you just email him for us and tell him to check xavierhoops.com? :-)

I emailed him a few weeks ago after we lost to St John’s. Never did receive an email back. He did hire Steele so I do wonder if he has it in him to fire him.

[xukeith]

How about BYU's Mark Pope?

[GoMuskies]

How about BYU's Mark Pope?

How about no.

[xukeith]

How about no.

Wichita St.'s Matt McMahon?

[GoMuskies]

Wichita St.'s Matt McMahon?

If McMahon was at Wichita State they wouldn't be down 10 to Tulsa at half in the AAAAAAACCCCCCC Tournament at Little Dickies Arena in Ft. Worth. But I would love for Xavier to hire McMahon away from Murray State.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Barring and absolute miracle, this team isn't making the dance. So let's be serious here and choose who we want as our next head coach.

[atljar]

New challenge..... Do it with no words

https://img.atlasobscura.com/6aqBUEn3RXQtR5hp0ALAGtOUrcEwnflvxy-EQqGcCj0/rt:fit/w:1280/q:81/sm:1/scp:1/ar:1/aHR0cHM6Ly9hdGxh/cy1kZXYuczMuYW1h/em9uYXdzLmNvbS91/cGxvYWRzL2Fzc2V0/cy9mNjlmNWU3MzJl/YjJlZTk5NDFfQW5p/bWFsIDMuanBn.jpg

[GIMMFD]

How about no.


If McMahon was at Wichita State they wouldn't be down 10 to Tulsa at half in the AAAAAAACCCCCCC Tournament at Little Dickies Arena in Ft. Worth. But I would love for Xavier to hire McMahon away from Murray State.

I need to stop reading The Athletic articles on these coaches, because the one on Mark Pope made me really think he was a great coach, but BYU stumbled down the stretch, and the one on McMahon at Murray State made me want to run through a freaking wall for him, seems like just a good individual human along with some coaching chops. That'd be a great hire IMO.

[GoMuskies]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTYxNTE2MDg3M15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwOTU0OTkz._V1_U Y317_CR0,0,214,317_AL_.jpg

[drudy23]

If you want change, you need to flood Christopher’s email and voice mail with your opinions that Steele is not right to lead the program going forward.

Does this actually work?

[GoMuskies]

Does this actually work?

I suspect that as long as you give at least 5 figures annually to All For One your email would at least get read and you would receive a polite responce from Christopher's secretary.

[XUBison]

Does this actually work?

It can’t hurt. They need to feel the heat.

[X-band '01]

If McMahon was at Wichita State they wouldn't be down 10 to Tulsa at half in the AAAAAAACCCCCCC Tournament at Little Dickies Arena in Ft. Worth. But I would love for Xavier to hire McMahon away from Murray State.

They wouldn't be playing the opening round in the American, period.

[xudash]

I suspect that as long as you give at least 5 figures annually to All For One your email would at least get read and you would receive a polite response from Christopher's secretary.

This.

I'm imagining Greg back in his office today after last night. I know there is some kind of algorithmic game tracker that continuously tracks probability of victory during a game. Even with a minute left it had to be a comfortable percentage for Xavier. Prior to Paul's failed FT attempt it had to be pretty high, too.

Then we have the most infamous foul ever called on a Xavier player that was the fault of that player.

Then we have OT and a Lithuanian going batshit crazy in OT for the L.

The BODY OF WORK - again - when it counts the most, is abysmal for where it otherwise stood going into conference play. It's just not the TV money and the cash register that is the Cintas Center. It also is NCAAT UNITS, and the portion of those monies shared with conference members who otherwise don't generate any probably is smaller than the portion going to those members that do generate them.

Some rough numbers:

- Xavier endowment - north of $250 million headed towards $300 million.

- Annual Fund - probably around $100 million.

- I have no idea where the AFO Fund stands.

Keep in mind that the University has put almost a half a billion dollars into the campus since the turn of 2000. The school has the ability and the internal infrastructure in place to raise money.

A major strategic planning process is in motion to define and position Xavier for the future of higher education.

As has some of you have pointed out, running with the big dogs takes money, and it takes fortitude to cough it up when times call for it. March 10, 2022 is screaming at the top of its lungs for that.

I truly have no idea how they're (the leadership of the school; not the BoT) is processing all this. Travis Steele flat out failed last night, at the very moment that I was quietly hoping he would pull magic out of a bottle and have these guys looking like the team that beat Ohio State and UCONN at home. I keep thinking that a simple MANAGEMENT 101 refresher course would convince the leadership team that the problem is in the FIBER of the way this guy coaches (or results in a failure to coach effectively) - they have a "structural" problem with Steele that cannot be fixed.

Sean Miller as an immediate and impactful fix is so obvious it hurts.

The last thing I'll offer here from my 2-cents category is that I disagree that Travis has leaked away 4 decades of program building. I don't see it working that way. By definition, that would involve what he has done in terms of failing to maintain Xavier's consistent participation in the NCAAT, but also the requirement of literally tearing down the Cintas Center and returning to Schmidt Memorial Fieldhouse as our home court, as well as sending home attendance back to less than 2,0000 immediately, as well as dropping back to independence status as a result of an exit from the Big East.

Here is the point - and, my God, it always seems to be the point, doesn't it? - WE ARE THE RIGHT COACH AWAY from fixing all our problems.

We know the current guy is not the answer. Will a courageous move be made to reset us on course?

[xuphan]

Does this actually work?

I doubt Greg reads message boards and probably has no clue how the fan base feels about Steele at the moment. The only way you can make your voice heard is to email or leave a voice mail. Like another poster said, It can’t hurt.

[Xville]

I doubt Greg reads message boards and probably has no clue how the fan base feels about Steele at the moment. The only way you can make your voice heard is to email or leave a voice mail. Like another poster said, It can’t hurt.

I'm pretty sure the boos at home games and students chanting fire steele would give him some clue. I am also sure that the big donors have voiced their concerns---the ones that give a crap about basketball anyways.

[xu82]

I'm pretty sure the boos at home games and students chanting fire steele would give him some clue. I am also sure that the big donors have voiced their concerns---the ones that give a crap about basketball anyways.

IF he is unaware of how people feel about the situation, he’s worse at his job than Steele is at his.

[IM4X]

It may be high time for a change and we can yell with our pitchforks all we want, but just understand that they will hire Jonas Hayes as the next head coach.

0% of that happening, but you IÂ’m sure you already know it and are just playfully storing the pots.

The Steele hire was the first miss in 40+ years for XÂ’s MenÂ’s BBall. Successful X head coach take new job and leaves his top assistant behind or one of his top assistants that left comes back to take over.

To hire the assistant of a coach who just failed at his job would be like hiring one of the main writer of a stand up comic headliner whoÂ’s constantly getting heckled for his unfunny material as your next headliner.

[Murph85]

My source tells me change is coming. But no specifics. Very good source.

[Xville]

My source tells me change is coming. But no specifics. Very good source.

Hope it’s the head seat and not a mack Louisville situation where he gets all new staff and just delays the inevitable.

[xeus]

Pro tip: When you email Greg Christopher, use your real name, not your xavierhoops name.

Sincerely,
xeus

[xuphan]

My source tells me change is coming. But no specifics. Very good source.

Is this from Musketeerscoop?

[X-band '01]

Pro tip: When you email Greg Christopher, use your real name, not your xavierhoops name.

Sincerely,
xeus

P.S. We'll also be happy to give him a glowing recommendation when Georgia comes calling for a new head coach.

Fixed this now that Tom Crean has officially been Creaned at UGA.

[American X]

Here is the point - and, my God, it always seems to be the point, doesn't it? - WE ARE THE RIGHT COACH AWAY from fixing all our problems.

We know the current guy is not the answer. Will a courageous move be made to reset us on course?

I refer to Georgetown as the sleeping giant, if they could find the right coach. March 2018, Xavier was on the cusp of becoming a giant, but Mack was already checked out chasing the green and three phantom fouls on J.P. Macura stole our dreams.

Maybe if Mack stayed Xavier continues to ascend, maybe not. Xavier had a window to find that coach to elevate the program, but they took the safe & easy route promoting the next guy as they had previously done.

The vision has been delayed four years, but hopefully not destroyed. All the pieces are still in place, IF they can find the right coach.

Great post, dash.

[bjf123]

Pro tip: When you email Greg Christopher, use your real name, not your xavierhoops name.

Sincerely,
xeus

You mean he doesn’t respond to a Greek god?


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[xu82]

You mean he doesn’t respond to a Greek god?


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If someone asks if you are a God, say YES.

I admit to missing Bill Murray a bit.

[SM#24]

Pro tip: When you email Greg Christopher, use your real name, not your xavierhoops name.

Sincerely,
xeus
I emailed him as Ron Mexico

[SM#24]

If someone asks if you are a God, say YES.

I admit to missing Bill Murray a bit.
Then we should hire Luke.

[Murph85]

Is this from Musketeerscoop?

I subscribe to the pay site and it did not come from there. Although they (pay site) are waiting until Sunday night to do a recap, maybe to make sue X does not sneak in and they have their info out too early. Can’t say but maybe they know what’s happening and are keeping it until then.

I think TS has it in him to face the inevitable and maybe take a step down. Pure speculation. I really wanted him to be our answer but even if they sneak in it should not save him. We look like a 4th grade team last night celebrating with 30mseconds to go and can’t make a freakin free throw or have the sense to know the score and not foul. No discipline and I believe that’s how the player have regressed to not being able to shoot 3’s or free throws.

Anyway I hope like hell that this change info is legit. The source has been so correct in the past I have real time hope.

[JTG]

I did my part. Emailed Steele, AD, Mario, Eiset. Twittered the Pres. Told Steele to resign, told the rest to get rid of him and hire Miller.

[xudash]

If someone asks if you are a God, say YES.

I admit to missing Bill Murray a bit.

At least we are all pulling each other through with some humor and levity.

[xu82]

I did my part. Emailed Steele, AD, Mario, Eiset. Twittered the Pres. Told Steele to resign, told the rest to get rid of him and hire Miller.

Well, that should take care of it then!

[xu82]

At least we are all pulling each other through with some humor and levity.


What more can we do? Keep moving forward, and hope and pray the program gets back on track.

[bjf123]

I did my part. Emailed Steele, AD, Mario, Eiset. Twittered the Pres. Told Steele to resign, told the rest to get rid of him and hire Miller.

Let us know if you get any responses. I won’t hold my breath. [emoji16]


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[JTG]

Get this, Steele replied, Thanks for your support. After I said You're a lousy coach, Resign.

[xudash]

Get this, Steele replied, Thanks for your support. After I said You're a lousy coach, Resign.

Are you serious!

[xudash]

Get this, Steele replied, Thanks for your support. After I said You're a lousy coach, Resign.

So here is a serious question and something to consider: have both parties reached the point of no return?

He has to know how toxic the environment is within the fan base. He has to know that he is a pariah. How do you go about putting 100% effort into a position where and when you know you are not want? Especially when your “effort“ leads to terrible results.

[Xavier]

Get this, Steele replied, Thanks for your support. After I said You're a lousy coach, Resign.

I’m assuming this is fake- because I think it’s a dick move to email him directly. I guess the guys getting paid millions so I’m sure he doesn’t care, still ridiculous if true

[JTG]

Are you serious!

I'm guessing it's auto response. But seriously, if you feel the way most of us do, use your real name. At least they'll know you're sincere. What the hell could they do anyway, revoke your diploma ?

[xuwillie]

I’m assuming this is fake- because I think it’s a dick move to email him directly. I guess the guys getting paid millions so I’m sure he doesn’t care, still ridiculous if true

Screw that, dude deserves all the negative emails we can send. He has just as much right to be the Xavier coach as I do.

[Xavier]

Hope it’s the head seat and not a mack Louisville situation where he gets all new staff and just delays the inevitable.

Yep. Honestly…make a splash, if they are waiting to see if X sneaks in till Sunday that’s fine. But get rid of Steele and bring in Sean on Monday. That’s a splash that gets people talking about X. (Maybe not….maybe too much talk on predictions?) but the buzz would be immediate.

[MHettel]

Worst case scenario:

XU sticks with Steele
GTown picks up Miller

Miller owns the BE for years to come.....

[xudash]

I'm guessing it's auto response. But seriously, if you feel the way most of us do, use your real name. At least they'll know you're sincere. What the hell could they do anyway, revoke your diploma ?

Frankly, I wasn’t questioning you doing it. I found it rather pitiful that that was his response.

[xudash]

Worst case scenario:

XU sticks with Steele
GTown picks up Miller

Miller owns the BE for years to come.....

What you typed is exactly what should be sent to the leadership. It is one of many obvious points to make about all this.

[xu82]

Worst case scenario:

XU sticks with Steele
GTown picks up Miller

Miller owns the BE for years to come.....

I don’t think he would own it, but he would compete for top 3.

Meanwhile, we will compete for bottom 3.

Yippee…….

[xuwillie]

What you typed is exactly what should be sent to the leadership. It is one of many obvious points to make about all this.

Agree, Miller will be a D1 head coach somewhere next year and X will miss out if they dont move now. The idiots on scout think there's a chance he'd be Steeles assistant. I mean wtf

[xuphan]

Agree, Miller will be a D1 head coach somewhere next year and X will miss out if they dont move now. The idiots on scout think there's a chance he'd be Steeles assistant. I mean wtf

Miller will be Steele’s assistant? Did I read that right?

[xuwillie]

Miller will be Steele’
s assistant? Did I read that right?

Should say some idiot fans. People have lost their minds

[xu82]

Agree, Miller will be a D1 head coach somewhere next year and X will miss out if they dont move now. The idiots on scout think there's a chance he'd be Steeles assistant. I mean wtf

If you are on the right meds and make it thru the looking glass, Steele would stay and recruit for Miller. I mean, while we are dreaming….. lol

But, alas, egos are involved.

[xukeith]

Worst case scenario:

XU sticks with Steele
GTown picks up Miller

Miller owns the BE for years to come.....
100% true .
for the sake of the conference and preventing other schools of grabbing awesome coaches, let's get Miller here ASAP.


Oh wait. I forgot Steele has a father- in -law that is
a giant player with X decisions.

[Strange Brew]

Agree, Miller will be a D1 head coach somewhere next year and X will miss out if they dont move now. The idiots on scout think there's a chance he'd be Steeles assistant. I mean wtf

He will and X will be kicking it/ourselves for a decade if he’s not back at X. Hope it happens but I get a sinking feeling the admin views hoops as a cash cow to feed the nobler pursuits of the high(esque) minded.

[Backyard Champ]

All in on Miller.


BUT

If not Miller, then I’d like to know other candidates before I was for sure letting Steele go.

[xu82]

He will and X will be kicking it/ourselves for a decade if he’s not back at X. Hope it happens but I get a sinking feeling the admin views hoops as a cash cow to feed the nobler pursuits of the high(esque) minded.

I have to say, I didn’t LOVE my Xavier experience. I didn’t hate it either, but I think my high school was the MUCH better educational experience. They will be in my will first, not that that is a big deal.

The reason I still go back to Cincinnati and own Xavier gear is the basketball. The reason most people have heard of Xavier (not the one in New Orleans, as they were often confused before our basketball program took off) is because we were regulars in the NCAA tournament.

We are close to becoming just another school who lacks an identity.

[Strange Brew]

I have to say, I didn’t LOVE my Xavier experience. I didn’t hate it either, but I think my high school was the MUCH better educational experience. They will be in my will first, not that that is a big deal.

The reason I still go back to Cincinnati and own Xavier gear is the basketball. The reason most people have heard of Xavier (not the one in New Orleans, as they were often confused before our basketball program took off) is because we were regulars in the NCAA tournament.

We are close to becoming just another school who lacks an identity.

I don’t disagree with anything you say. However, this isn’t Fr. Hoff’s Xavier (or Byron’s, West’s, and on and on) anymore. Tuition is ridiculous and unfortunately Steele ball falls in line with the Universities brand character. Nice, little Xavier that really wants to be “The Harvard of the Midwest”. Prove me wrong. “It’s me!”

At least Dana’s doesn’t suck. Thanks 94 and company.

Edit: Your comment about your experience mirrors mine and most of my friends. It wasn’t glamorous or really all that hard (most of us were educated at good Catholic HS) but it was cool in a way that I can’t explain to people. There was something about it being glamor-less, small and tight knit that made it great.

[JEHARDI]

Like maybe as soon as FT missed YELL "no fouls" a few hundred times. Coach Steele AND his staff (looking at you Dante) were all fast and sound
asleep.

Watch the replay, Steele is running down the sideline waving no foul. Watch Nunge” reaction. Everyone but Paul knew not to foul.

[paulxu]

I emailed the school about the coaching situation; signed my name as Snipe.

Got a call right away. I mean within 60 seconds.

It was someone from campus security. I hung up.

[American X]

It may be high time for a change and we can yell with our pitchforks all we want, but just understand that they will hire Jonas Hayes as the next head coach.


Xavier?

If they do this, this would be a letdown of epic proportions. You don't fire then head coach and hire his assistant. What's the point of that?


0% of that happening, but you I’m sure you already know it and are just playfully storing the pots.

The Steele hire was the first miss in 40+ years for X’s Men’s BBall. Successful X head coach take new job and leaves his top assistant behind or one of his top assistants that left comes back to take over.

Because hiring the assistant is the only thing Xavier knows how to do. I am joking, mostly. We are in unchartered waters.

[GoMuskies]

I think he signs the checks Humboldt Snooches III.

[Strange Brew]

Watch the replay, Steele is running down the sideline waving no foul. Watch Nunge” reaction. Everyone but Paul knew not to foul.

Hard to hear that in the heat of the moment at MSG. The time for instruction had passed. As posted earlier the flagrant foul on Jack during the inbounds v. PU was bad coaching as was the one committed by Paul. Both were 5th fouls on seasoned players in key situations. No excuses Steele. And blaming Paul for that is garbage leadership as is sending Dante out for the post game with Byron/Joe. No accountability, no integrity, needs to go.

[Strange Brew]

I emailed the school about the coaching situation; signed my name as Snipe.

Got a call right away. I mean within 60 seconds.

It was someone from campus security. I hung up.

There’s only one Snipe. #Legend.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Worst case scenario:

XU sticks with Steele
GTown picks up Miller

Miller owns the BE for years to come.....

X sticking with Steele, and Miller going anywhere this year, and X being right back here next year and firing Steele a year late would be awful.

Although him going to Georgetown would truly be awful. Hadn't thought of that. Ugh.

[Strange Brew]

X sticking with Steele, and Miller going anywhere this year, and X being right back here next year and firing Steele a year late would be awful.

Although him going to Georgetown would truly be awful. Hadn't thought of that. Ugh.

Maybe Pitino would like to get back in the Catholic league (sans UCONN and Butler)? I mean, who are we to judge?

[D-West & PO-Z]

I emailed the school about the coaching situation; signed my name as Snipe.

Got a call right away. I mean within 60 seconds.

It was someone from campus security. I hung up.

HA, hilarious! Reps Paul!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Maybe Pitino would like to get back in the Catholic league (sans UCONN)? I mean, who are we to judge?

Can't stand Pitino. But Steele being so bad would make me at least be open to it, lmao.

[Xavier]

Maybe Pitino would like to get back in the Catholic league (sans UCONN)? I mean, who are we to judge?

I want Sean, obviously. And it’s such a rare instance where he is available. Kinda like everything is lining up for it to happen.

But I’d take Rick too. Difference is Sean could legit be at X another 12 years. Rick probably has about 5 in him .

[xu82]

I emailed the school about the coaching situation; signed my name as Snipe.

Got a call right away. I mean within 60 seconds.

It was someone from campus security. I hung up.

If it didn’t come in during the wee hours of the night and ramble on for pages they will know it’s a fake. There is only one true Snipe.

[Strange Brew]

Can't stand Pitino. But Steele being so bad would make me at least be open to it, lmao.

He made some mistakes but who hasn’t. Where better to find redemption than a small, Midwestern school in need of a guy who understands the value of work and putting in your time?

[D-West & PO-Z]

I want Sean, obviously. And it’s such a rare instance where he is available. Kinda like everything is lining up for it to happen.

But I’d take Rick too. Difference is Sean could legit be at X another 12 years. Rick probably has about 5 in him .

It is such perfect timing for Miller back to X. Does the X administration have the brains to make the move?

[Strange Brew]

I want Sean, obviously. And it’s such a rare instance where he is available. Kinda like everything is lining up for it to happen.

But I’d take Rick too. Difference is Sean could legit be at X another 12 years. Rick probably has about 5 in him .

Completely agree on Sean. His only mistake was annoying some X fans with his Marketing to recruits. He’s a great fit at the perfect time and I hear he even loves the area. It’s a no brainer really.

[GoMuskies]

I'd cheer for Dayton against a Pitino coached Xavier.

[Strange Brew]

Keep in mind Sean was at the UCONN home game with former players (legends) and talked to the team. And they went out and won. So…

[xu82]

It is such perfect timing for Miller back to X. Does the X administration have the brains to make the move?

I certainly hope they get it. Time to do the smart thing that just might have fallen into your lap. Don’t roll the dice on some long shot when you have the real deal looking you in the eyes.

[Strange Brew]

I'd cheer for Dayton against a Pitino coached Xavier.

You’re dead to me. :)

[xukeith]

I assume the Miller brothers are still living in Tuscon, AZ.
Let's get some letters sent to UA. They will know his address and contact info.
What is the worst that could happen?

[Strange Brew]

I assume the Miller brothers are still living in Tuscon, AZ.
Let's get some letters sent to UA. They will know his address and contact info.
What is the worst that could happen?

No need. He’s wants the job. He wouldn’t be back for a home game this year, sensing blood in the water, if he didn’t…

[GIMMFD]

No need. He’s wants the job. He wouldn’t be back for a home game this year, sensing blood in the water, if he didn’t…

I hadn't really thought about that, it was some peculiar timing on Sean's part... wonder how administration would feel about that though.

[xudash]

I hadn't really thought about that, it was some peculiar timing on Sean's part... wonder how administration would feel about that though.

Well, consider that he was in a private box for the game. He was in a private box; not a regular seat somewhere out in the arena. Someone or some company controls that box. Maybe it is one of the big donors - who cares about basketball. Who knows.

[xukeith]

Well, consider that he was in a private box for the game. He was in a private box; not a regular seat somewhere out in the arena. Someone or some company controls that box. Maybe it is one of the big donors - who cares about basketball. Who knows.

He spoke to the team while here. He is friends with Steele. I don’t think he came for reasons smelling an opportunity. I don’t know. We might never know what his intentions were .

[bjf123]

He spoke to the team while here. He is friends with Steele. I don’t think he came for reasons smelling an opportunity. I don’t know. We might never know what his intentions were .

I’m guessing he came here to help his friend, Travis, nothing more. Maybe it was at the request of the university. Maybe it was at Travis’s request. Doubt we’ll ever know.


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[Masterofreality]

Lets go back about 2 weeks.

Jack Nunge commits a boneheaded off the ball foul in OT while we were down 2 and Providence had the ball. This results in a flagrant foul, and Nunge fouling out. Providence got 2 FT attempts, AND the Ball back. In no way, shape or form was this a smart play.

Now lets figure out WHY this happened.

Option 1. Steele told Nunge to foul. In order to accept this, then you also must assume that Steele didnt realize that the foul would be a flagrant. You would also have to wonder if Steele knew that it was Nunge's 5th foul. There is a scenario where Steele DID know it was his 5th foul and he simply though he needed to foul in spite of that. But if that were the case, why not bring in Stanley and let HIM commit the foul? My conclusion is that if Steele ordered the foul, then it's a complete coaching blunder.

Option 2. Nunge went rogue and decided to foul on his own. If you accept THIS scenario, then you must also assume that NUNGE didnt know that it would be a flagrant. You would also have to accept the fact that either Steele provided no instructions for what the team should do in that scenario (leaving Nunge to decide on his own), or that Nunge ignored the instructions and decided to foul on his own. So which is worse? No instructions from the coaching staff at a crucial moment in the final moments of a key game.....or having players that have decided that coaching instructions are merely "suggestions."

I honestly cant tell you which of these options are worse. I can say for a fact that the incident DID occur, so we are down to 3 reasons why.
1. Steele told him to.
2. Steele didnt provide any coaching, so Nunge did it on his own.
3. Steele provided instructions that Nunge ignored.

But in any case, this happened. And we learned from it....right? I mean, we DID at least LEARN from this mistake, didnt we? It's inconceivable that we would go out and essentially commit an identical blunder in a "win or go home" game, right? I mean Steele for SURE spent a few minutes discussing end game strategy and covered some basic rules (like off the ball foul being flagrant) with the team.

I mean, after the Providence blunder and the associated adjustments that the staff made, we would be sure that the players had KEEN situational awareness and a complete grasp on end game strategy. And the coaches would convey CLEAR communications that was consistent with what was preached in practice. There would be no risk of a second blunder in this situation, right?

And while I look at the Providence situation and see really 3 different possible "reasons" why it occurred, the "Butler Blunder" (copyright pending) does call in a few more things to question.

We see the video of Scrugs saying "you said Smack" which was presumably directed at Steele. The big question is WHEN he told them to SMACK. If it was before the (missed) FT attempt, then it's pretty clear that the instructions were not refined enough to be clear that we SMACK only on a made FT. If he yelled it out AFTER the miss, then clearly Steele was the one who didnt know the score, and as a result looks WAAAAAY more incompetent for makin the horrible call.

But wouldn't Scruggs KNOW not to foul in that case? Lets say Steele yelled SMACK after the miss. Scruggs should have immediately known that he should most definitely NOT SMACK there. Unless of course Nunge got obliterated by the staff for going rogue and Paul learned a very precise lesson to execute the coaching instructions to a Tee or there will be "hell to pay." But we all know that Mr. Softy doesnt have that in him. So lets just land on the reality that Paul Scruggs, who has played the MOST GAMES and probably MOST MINUTES in program history didnt know the fucking score in the final moments of what will go down as his last college game. Even if STEELE DID tell them to SMACKL after the miss, Scruggs should have known not to do it.

I think the ONLY silver lining here is that this may have been the final nail in the coffin for Steele.

I'm literally hoping that on Sunday we dont make the Tourney. And on Sunday night we decline an NIT bid, and then on Monday morning Steele gets his much deserved pink slip for ruining this program. I'd like to have a new coach in place in less than a week, and a concerted effort to retain ALL retunring players and 2023 recruits. There will be some fallout, no doubt. Use the Transfer portal to shore up the roster.

Bring the luster back to the X.

There is a pattern of end game confusions. 100% is on the Coach and inexcusable.
Steele has also never been called to explain why Dwon Odom fouled at the end of the Butler game at MSG last year. He just put his hands on a guy with Xavier holding a 1 point lead in the last 5 seconds.
Seems like this Coach causes confusion on what the situations are.

[boozehound]

He spoke to the team while here. He is friends with Steele. I don’t think he came for reasons smelling an opportunity. I don’t know. We might never know what his intentions were .

Yeah, I can't imagine that Sean Miller showed up at a basketball game and spoke to the team in the locker room so that he could move in on the dream job that a friend of his currently holds. If true it would be a major piece of shit move from Miller, and baffling that Travis would allow it. I think that the much more likely scenario is that Travis recognized the need for some external motivation and asked Sean to speak to the team.

I think Travis is a decent guy who knows he is struggling, and sees his dream job slipping away. That's got to be tough. He was/is probably looking for anything he could do to motivate the team. I also think he doesn't know what to do. The line between good and bad in college basketball (or most big time sports) is incredibly thin. I feel bad for the guy and wish him no ill will, but I also don't want him coaching the team next year.

[Boro Muskie]

Yeah, I can't imagine that Sean Miller showed up at a basketball game and spoke to the team in the locker room so that he could move in on the dream job that a friend of his currently holds. If true it would be a major piece of shit move from Miller, and baffling that Travis would allow it. I think that the much more likely scenario is that Travis recognized the need for some external motivation and asked Sean to speak to the team.

I think Travis is a decent guy who knows he is struggling, and sees his dream job slipping away. That's got to be tough. He was/is probably looking for anything he could do to motivate the team. I also think he doesn't know what to do. The line between good and bad in college basketball (or most big time sports) is incredibly thin. I feel bad for the guy and wish him no ill will, but I also don't want him coaching the team next year.

This, I guarantee all involved are not trying to lose and I submit it is harder on them than all of us.

[GoMuskies]

It's probably not a coincidence that UConn was the only good team we beat down the stretch.

[Muskie]

Well, consider that he was in a private box for the game. He was in a private box; not a regular seat somewhere out in the arena. Someone or some company controls that box. Maybe it is one of the big donors - who cares about basketball. Who knows.

I am told that Sean was invited by Travis to visit practice the day before the game, and that he and Travis had dinner afterwards. Miller apparently wanted to sit in a box and not be a distraction, which is why he was not announced on the PA or shown on the videoboard. TLDR; Miller was there at the invitation of Travis.

[D-West & PO-Z]

It's probably not a coincidence that UConn was the only good team we beat down the stretch.

Meaning? That Miller is that motivating?

[D-West & PO-Z]

I am told that Sean was invited by Travis to visit practice the day before the game, and that he and Travis had dinner afterwards. Miller apparently wanted to sit in a box and not be a distraction, which is why he was not announced on the PA or shown on the videoboard. TLDR; Miller was there at the invitation of Travis.

Does anyone think Miller wouldn't be interested if Steele was let go because they have a personal relationship?

[xuwillie]

Does anyone think Miller wouldn't be interested if Steele was let go because they have a personal relationship?

I guess thats what Cristopher needs to figure out asap. But if we can't get a Miller type then we are stuck with Steele for another year. I don't think you can blow up everything to bring in a unknown or mid major coach at this point. And this is coming from someone who believes Steele shouldn't be a head coach anywhere. Thats how bad he is.

[Muskie]

I guess thats what Cristopher needs to figure out asap. But if we can't get a Miller type then we are stuck with Steele for another year. I don't think you can blow up everything to bring in a unknown or mid major coach at this point. And this is coming from someone who believes Steele shouldn't be a head coach anywhere. Thats how bad he is.

I am told Sean is interested in returning from people I trust. I am not sure there will be an opening.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I am told Sean is interested in returning from people I trust. I am not sure there will be an opening.

This would be such a disappointing mistake. I just can't even fathom it. Ugh

[Murph85]

SM would take the job in a New York minute. He had to drag his wife out of town kicking and screaming and I am told he would, or maybe more accurately, they would, jump at the chance to settle down in Cincinnati.
While at the UConn game he detailed how great a program we have from practice facilities, the Cintas Center, private chefs, flying private to games AND recruiting, training equipment ... We are state of the art.

We are a very attractive destination for a coach. This nonsense of hurting our program's reputation by firing a coach is BS in the biggest degree.

[GoMuskies]

Holy fuck if Sean wants the job and we keep Steele instead of giving it to him.

[xu82]

Holy fuck if Sean wants the job and we keep Steele instead of giving it to him.

I can’t describe what a terrible mistake that would be. No words……

[XUBison]

Holy fuck if Sean wants the job and we keep Steele instead of giving it to him.

This would make me sick to my stomach. I love Xavier basketball, but I don’t know if I could watch if we keep Steele in lieu of Miller. I don’t mean this as a boycott, just that I seriously don’t know if I could stomach it.

[XU 23]

Holy fuck if Sean wants the job and we keep Steele instead of giving it to him.

Oh no.

[xu82]

This would make me sick to my stomach. I love Xavier basketball, but I don’t know if I could watch if we keep Steele in lieu of Miller. I don’t mean this as a boycott, just that I seriously don’t know if I could stomach it.

I’ve been a big fan of Xavier basketball for a long time. I can’t be a fan of stupid.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Yeah, I can't imagine that Sean Miller showed up at a basketball game and spoke to the team in the locker room so that he could move in on the dream job that a friend of his currently holds. If true it would be a major piece of shit move from Miller, and baffling that Travis would allow it. I think that the much more likely scenario is that Travis recognized the need for some external motivation and asked Sean to speak to the team.

I think Travis is a decent guy who knows he is struggling, and sees his dream job slipping away. That's got to be tough. He was/is probably looking for anything he could do to motivate the team. I also think he doesn't know what to do. The line between good and bad in college basketball (or most big time sports) is incredibly thin. I feel bad for the guy and wish him no ill will, but I also don't want him coaching the team next year.

I have been thinking the same thing... the fact that Sean spoke to the team is NOT a good sign for him returning to Victory Parkway. As you said, why would Travis allow this if he had any inclination Miller was waiting to pounce on his job? Also, why would Miller want to motivate the team to succeed if he wanted to pounce on Steele's job?

My far-reaching hope has been the brass told Steele they were moving in a different direction with Miller and he was going to address the team in exchange for Steele being allowed to finish the season as coach. However, this was on 2/11 when we were 16-7 and projecting between a 6-9 seed. Most of us wanted a change at that point, but I doubt the administration would have had that much of a heavy hand at that point.

As to the point of them being friends... C'mon, this is a business. Steele and Miller know how it goes. I don't see how them being friends influences anything if X is independently moving in a different direction from Steele and Miller wants the job. I mean, how good of friends are they, really? Yes, Miller hired Steele as a grad assistant in his last year at X. But that is the basketball equivalent of an internship. I don't think Steele even sat on the bench during games that year. Is any CEO of a multi-million dollar enterprise really close "friends" with the interns they hire?

[drudy23]

I think you're fooling yourself if you think Sean Miller wouldn't put in for the job if it came available because he's Travis' friend.

These guys are sharks.

Would X hire him is a different story. But he'd absolutely put himself in the fold, and honestly may have already hinted at interest for anyone that would listen.

[bjf123]

If we’re going to get rid of Travis and also pay big bucks to Sean, we’re going to need a wealthy alumni to step up and buy out Steele’s contract. Any takers? The irony is not lost that his FIL could afford it.


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[paulxu]

If we’re going to get rid of Travis and also pay big bucks to Sean, we’re going to need a wealthy alumni to step up and buy out Steele’s contract. Any takers? The irony is not lost that his FIL could afford it.


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Check with Lloyd and the guys in the Degenerate Gambler thread. Big winnings there.

[D-West & PO-Z]

As to the point of them being friends... C'mon, this is a business. Steele and Miller know how it goes. I don't see how them being friends influences anything if X is independently moving in a different direction from Steele and Miller wants the job. I mean, how good of friends are they, really? Yes, Miller hired Steele as a grad assistant in his last year at X. But that is the basketball equivalent of an internship. I don't think Steele even sat on the bench during games that year. Is any CEO of a multi-million dollar enterprise really close "friends" with the interns they hire?


I think you're fooling yourself if you think Sean Miller wouldn't put in for the job if it came available because he's Travis' friend.

These guys are sharks.

Would X hire him is a different story. But he'd absolutely put himself in the fold, and honestly may have already hinted at interest for anyone that would listen.

I agree, which is why I am unclear on why people think its a bad sign that Steele invited Miller to speak to the team and Miller was at the game?

[boozehound]

I think you're fooling yourself if you think Sean Miller wouldn't put in for the job if it came available because he's Travis' friend.

These guys are sharks.

Would X hire him is a different story. But he'd absolutely put himself in the fold, and honestly may have already hinted at interest for anyone that would listen.

100%. I think that Miller (assuming he is interested) would absolutely take the job if Steele were fired regardless of their personal relationship. I don't necessarily think that he would go out of his way to try to get Travis fired so he could replace him or anything of that nature. The other thing that is going on with Sean Miller is that whole Book Richardson thing, which could deter Xavier.

If Steele is retained I really hope it works out, but he is going to have to do some soul searching. I have seen people put in jobs that are too big too soon that ended up being really good after struggling initially, but it's hard to get there sometimes and it often required some kind of 'reset'. I'm not sure what the reset would be for Steele, but the challenge is that next year's team looks like they are going to struggle regardless and that's going to make it tough to evaluate Steele's performance next year.

[GIMMFD]

Check with Lloyd and the guys in the Degenerate Gambler thread. Big winnings there.

Please, my bank roll has been decimated throughout championship week, I can pawn off my Audi maybe?

[xavbball]

The other thing that is going on with Sean Miller is that whole Book Richardson thing, which could deter Xavier.

It would be foolish not to hire Miller because of the whole "cheating" incident, which is now very much part of NCAA athletics. As I mentioned in another thread, any risk here is short-term anyway. Just look at Creighton, who's under probation, but you wouldn't even know it since they are going to punch their ticket to the NCAA tournament on Sunday. Miller should be the most straightforward hire for an AD in Xavier's history. I also find it ridiculous that this administration sees itself as squeaky clean, and hiring Miller "damages" that reputation when they knowingly hired a head coach whose FIL is a trustee and donor.

[Jumpin_Jamal_Forever]

If Steele is retained I really hope it works out, but he is going to have to do some soul searching. I have seen people put in jobs that are too big too soon that ended up being really good after struggling initially, but it's hard to get there sometimes and it often required some kind of 'reset'. I'm not sure what the reset would be for Steele, but the challenge is that next year's team looks like they are going to struggle regardless and that's going to make it tough to evaluate Steele's performance next year.

Retaining Steele would be very unfortunate for X basketball. I have no animosity toward him but, he was the wrong hire. He took a program near its zenith and, in four years, crashed it into a ditch. That is the reality of what has happened.

The leader that created the problem is never the right choice to fix it. Steele failed because he was inflexible believing in his system as if it were an ideology. He proved incapable of learning from his mistakes many many times. He had the opportunity to go out and find a more experienced senior hand and hire him but he did not---presumably because he couldn't see that he needed it. Most of this board saw he needed that two years ago. But, he didn't. Or perhaps he was too stubborn to recognize his shortcomings and attempt to change. Doesn't matter now. Steele has made the same mistakes again and again. He simply, at this point, doesn't have the ability to step back and re-set. It isn't in him. If it were, we would have seen evidence of it these past four years.

We have a program that has sunk to its lowest level since I've became a fan about 1985 and we must go out and find someone who can turn it around. The skills required for that are different than the skills Steele possesses and include an ability to assess the current situation objectively (Steele doesn't have that) and then go recruit and rebuild. That takes experience and energy---two qualities Steele does not possess. We must, in my opinion, go find an experienced coach who is willing to make a commitment to Xavier. Potential candidates are out there but that is another thread. Suffice to say, I would take Miller in a nanosecond but agree with others that isn't in the cards.

As far as Steele goes, his first head coach assignment was a failure and he must go so we can rebuild. But, we all fail and failure isn't terminal. If he is let go (which I believe must happen) he can step back, find a senior assistant position with a capable coach from whom he can learn. Learning is different after failure and he must first admit he didn't perform. He can recruit, focus on watching how a successful coach makes and implements decisions and start over in a few years as head coach at a smaller school. Everybody loves a comeback. I'm sure most of us on this board would love to see him succeed. But, he needs to begin his comeback somewhere else. We have a program that has become a dumpster fire. We are on the verge of watching X become a door mat in the Big East. I don't hate Steele but he put us there.

To me, we cannot move on fast enough. I wish Coach Steele the best.

[RoseyMuskie]

100%. I think that Miller (assuming he is interested) would absolutely take the job if Steele were fired regardless of their personal relationship. I don't necessarily think that he would go out of his way to try to get Travis fired so he could replace him or anything of that nature. The other thing that is going on with Sean Miller is that whole Book Richardson thing, which could deter Xavier.

If Steele is retained I really hope it works out, but he is going to have to do some soul searching. I have seen people put in jobs that are too big too soon that ended up being really good after struggling initially, but it's hard to get there sometimes and it often required some kind of 'reset'. I'm not sure what the reset would be for Steele, but the challenge is that next year's team looks like they are going to struggle regardless and that's going to make it tough to evaluate Steele's performance next year.

In all seriousness, this may come down to Jonas Hayes. If Hayes leaves for UGA, it gives Steele an opportunity to hire a veteran/well established assistant. Someone like a Phil Martelli for Michigan. Maybe the veteran can coach Steele on how to loosen up and take the hands off the wheel at times.

Problem is, how many of those coaches exist? And X likely doesn't have the money to pay an assistant of that stature, even though their assistant pay has increased recently.

The other option is scrapping the Packline defense. I think coaching a simpler style would afford younger players to contribute sooner, which is what Steele will need if he's retained.

Other than that, I can't think of a wholesale change which would make a meaningful impact.

[drudy23]

In all seriousness, this may come down to Jonas Hayes. If Hayes leaves for UGA, it gives Steele an opportunity to hire a veteran/well established assistant. Someone like a Phil Martelli for Michigan. Maybe the veteran can coach Steele on how to loosen up and take the hands off the wheel at times.

Problem is, how many of those coaches exist? And X likely doesn't have the money to pay an assistant of that stature, even though their assistant pay has increased recently.

The other option is scrapping the Packline defense. I think coaching a simpler style would afford younger players to contribute sooner, which is what Steele will need if he's retained.

Other than that, I can't think of a wholesale change which would make a meaningful impact.

Hayes has been a great recruiter. If he leaves, that leaves a recruiting void.

I think Steele needs a Martelli type of coach IN ADDITION to his current staff. Old guys like Martelli or even a guy like Thad Matta aren't going to be on the road recruiting. They'll never agree to that.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

JJF that is a very civilized and fair assessment of the status of the program as it currently sits. I think it’s clear why Steele doesn’t hire a well seasoned top assistant, it would give the administration an easy out and could quickly split the locker room. I think it’s split already.

[XUBison]

I think the ship has sailed on propping Steele up with an experienced bench guy. Why in the world make that move at this point instead of simply hiring a new head coach?

[RoseyMuskie]

Good point, Drudy. That makes the Senior Assistant option less viable.

[RoseyMuskie]

I think the ship has sailed on propping steel up with an experienced bench guy. Why in the world make that move at this point instead of simply hiring a new head coach?

Agree with you. But my gut says the University doesn’t. So thinking of a Plan B.

[MHettel]

As it pertains to Miller and the possibility of some "taint" related to Book Richardson, I think that can be easily dealt with in a contract that would include a clause that he can be terminated with cause (and no buyout) if he gets formally charged (or whatever they call it) by the NCAA.

If Miller is 100% innocent, then such a clause would not deter him from signing. If his fingerprints are at the crime scene, he may be adverse to accepting this clause in which case we cant take teh risk of hiring him.

Either way, we get insulated from any financial hit if Miller goes down eventually.

[XUBison]

As it pertains to Miller and the possibility of some "taint" related to Book Richardson, I think that can be easily dealt with in a contract that would include a clause that he can be terminated with cause (and no buyout) if he gets formally charged (or whatever they call it) by the NCAA.

If Miller is 100% innocent, then such a clause would not deter him from signing. If his fingerprints are at the crime scene, he may be adverse to accepting this clause in which case we cant take teh risk of hiring him.

Either way, we get insulated from any financial hit if Miller goes down eventually.

This is exactly right. If Miller were to get nailed with something, and X simply and unceremoniously parted ways with him, what would be the negative impact on the University? Sure, the program would have to pick up the coaching pieces, but that is a risk with any coach.

[xukeith]

As it pertains to Miller and the possibility of some "taint" related to Book Richardson, I think that can be easily dealt with in a contract that would include a clause that he can be terminated with cause (and no buyout) if he gets formally charged (or whatever they call it) by the NCAA.

If Miller is 100% innocent, then such a clause would not deter him from signing. If his fingerprints are at the crime scene, he may be adverse to accepting this clause in which case we cant take the risk of hiring him.

Either way, we get insulated from any financial hit if Miller goes down eventually.

Most of us want Miller. But I was reading the NCAA findings and alleged transactions and I thought, "X might be scared away by NCAA charges".

He is the ideal candidate though. Never read anything he actually was guilty of besides his voice is caught on wire tap regarding money for a recruit.

[MHettel]

Most of us want Miller. But I was reading the NCAA findings and alleged transactions and I thought, "X might be scared away by NCAA charges".

He is the ideal candidate though. Never read anything he actually was guilty of besides his voice is caught on wire tap regarding money for a recruit.

I get it.

Take your pick.

2 years with Miller and he goes down in NCAA flames and we need a new coach.....

or

2 more years with Steele.

This is literally about the WORST CASE scenario if we hire Miller with a termination clause.

[Lloyd Braun]

John Groce? Too close to home?

[Xville]

As I said would happen, Capel at pitt for at least one more year. #savetheprogram #millertime

[IM4X]

I think Steele needs a Martelli type of coach IN ADDITION to his current staff. Old guys like Martelli or even a guy like Thad Matta aren't going to be on the road recruiting. They'll never agree to that.

Again… it’s really funny that I posted that same idea about Matta being the perfect person for X to hire since he could really help Steele with the Xs and Os and other game day decisions and he wouldn’t have to go on the road to recruit (Steele does that pretty well) … and I did it it long before Indiana offered him a very similar deal (I even mentioned giving Matta a bigger title like Indiana did ) and some posters here quickly dismissed my idea, claiming that there was “No way Matta would ever agree to it”

I mean, I get that some people only believe something can be done if it’s been done before so they quickly dismiss any unorthodox idea that they haven’t seen done. They’ll say, “We’ll I’ve never seen someone do it so therefor it just isn’t even a possibility. He “would NEVER agree to it.” And then a little later we learn that indeed Matta did agree to something just like it.

I have spent much of my career pushing unorthodox ideas I felt would work (even when others push back unable to imagine it) and I’ve done it because it is exactly those types of ideas that brought me (and continue to bring me) the greatest amount of success. My big mistake was just posting it here and not bringing the idea to a few people I know who have a good relationship with Steele and at least one of the school’s decision makers.

[xuphan]

Again… it’s really funny that I posted that same idea about Matta being the perfect person for X to hire since he could really help Steele with the Xs and Os and other game day decisions and he wouldn’t have to go on the road to recruit (Steele does that pretty well) … and I did it it long before Indiana offered him a very similar deal (I even mentioned giving Matta a bigger title like Indiana did ) and some posters here quickly dismissed my idea, claiming that there was “No way Matta would ever agree to it”

I mean, I get that some people only believe something can be done if it’s been done before so they quickly dismiss any unorthodox idea that they haven’t seen done. They’ll say, “We’ll I’ve never seen someone do it so therefor it just isn’t even a possibility. He “would NEVER agree to it.” And then a little later we learn that indeed Matta did agree to something just like it.

I have spent much of my career pushing unorthodox ideas I felt would work (even when others push back unable to imagine it) and I’ve done it because it is exactly those types of ideas that brought me (and continue to bring me) the greatest amount of success. My big mistake was just posting it here and not bringing the idea to a few people I know who have a good relationship with Steele and at least one of the school’s decision makers.

Steele wants a bunch of yes men working with him on his staff. There is no way this team makes the same mistake year in and year out with a coaching staff that tells Steele this system isn’t working. This is no way Steele would want a former coach coming in to challenge his system and play calling. He just seems like the type of guy who wants it his way and doesn’t care what others have to say.

[xudash]

Steele wants a bunch of yes men working with him on his staff. There is no way this team makes the same mistake year in and year out with a coaching staff that tells Steele this system isn’t working. This is no way Steele would want a former coach coming in to challenge his system and play calling. He just seems like the type of guy who wants it his way and doesn’t care what others have to say.

Well, if that is true, then he absolutely needs to go.

And I love IM4X’s post. So true.

[XU 23]

How can Pitt keep Capel? That’s honestly embarrassing. Like Georgetown, that used to be a respectable program. I really hope X doesn’t suffer the same fate…

[MHettel]

Again… it’s really funny that I posted that same idea about Matta being the perfect person for X to hire since he could really help Steele with the Xs and Os and other game day decisions and he wouldn’t have to go on the road to recruit (Steele does that pretty well) … and I did it it long before Indiana offered him a very similar deal (I even mentioned giving Matta a bigger title like Indiana did ) and some posters here quickly dismissed my idea, claiming that there was “No way Matta would ever agree to it”

I mean, I get that some people only believe something can be done if it’s been done before so they quickly dismiss any unorthodox idea that they haven’t seen done. They’ll say, “We’ll I’ve never seen someone do it so therefor it just isn’t even a possibility. He “would NEVER agree to it.” And then a little later we learn that indeed Matta did agree to something just like it.

I have spent much of my career pushing unorthodox ideas I felt would work (even when others push back unable to imagine it) and I’ve done it because it is exactly those types of ideas that brought me (and continue to bring me) the greatest amount of success. My big mistake was just posting it here and not bringing the idea to a few people I know who have a good relationship with Steele and at least one of the school’s decision makers.

No offense. Just provide a link to your original comment.

We can discuss it from there

[OTRMUSKIE]

Jeff Capel is staying at Pitt, Miller come on down brother!! Let's go get that championship!!!!

[Xavier]

Rumor is they wanted Miller but he said he was heading to X.

*obviously not true. The buyout was like 15Million wasn’t it? Something absurd….and I think something that could stop X from doing the same move.

[Xavier]

I can’t believe I’m saying this. But I’d be thrilled with Mick. Who the hell would’ve thought that a couple years ago. (I know He isn’t leaving ucla…though could see Louisville snagging him, maybe)

[KabeX]

Jeff Capel is staying at Pitt, Miller come on down brother!! Let's go get that championship!!!!https://www.americancraftbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Keep-calm-miller-time-min-300x300.jpg

[xuphan]

Rumor is they wanted Miller but he said he was heading to X.

*obviously not true. The buyout was like 15Million wasn’t it? Something absurd….and I think something that could stop X from doing the same move.


Steele has a 10+ million dollar buyout? The buyout shouldn’t be an issue for X.

[xuphan]

I can’t believe I’m saying this. But I’d be thrilled with Mick. Who the hell would’ve thought that a couple years ago. (I know He isn’t leaving ucla…though could see Louisville snagging him, maybe)

Seriously? How many drinks have you had a Dana’s Tonight?

[JTG]

No offense. Just provide a link to your original comment.

We can discuss it from there

In IM4X defense I remember him floating the idea. ( And I have no clue who he is,so I'm not a buddy siding with him). The issue is IU being a BIG school has silly TV money. Even IU, who has pretty much sucked for 6 or 7 years can afford to give Matta a wad of cash to do very little. Also Matta isn't as old as his health would lead one to believe. Having him look over Steele's shoulder would probably make Steele's nervous. Woodson is secure at IU, being a former legend, and a remnant of the Knight Era. This is Woodson's last stop anyway, so having Matta around doesn't bother him. Someone like Gillen, who is older, and has no designs on coaching again, would be a much better fit @ X, but he has a tv gig, that's way easier than putting up with college kids 24/7. I want Steele gone, the whole thing has become toxic. Living in Indy, X reminds me of IU's last 4 or so years with Knight. By the last month of the season, many IU players would just want to get the season over with. That led to embarrassing losses to lower seeded teams. A) because kids were tired of Knight and disappointing seasons and B) because IU was gifted into the NCAA a number of times , as lifetime achievement awards to Knight,(but that's another topic for another day). Just get Miller, we go back to being a force in CBB, and we're dancing every March.

[IM4X]

In IM4X defense I remember him floating the idea. ( And I have no clue who he is,so I'm not a buddy siding with him). The issue is IU being a BIG school has silly TV money. Even IU, who has pretty much sucked for 6 or 7 years can afford to give Matta a wad of cash to do very little. Also Matta isn't as old as his health would lead one to believe. Having him look over Steele's shoulder would probably make Steele's nervous. Woodson is secure at IU, being a former legend, and a remnant of the Knight Era. This is Woodson's last stop anyway, so having Matta around doesn't bother him. Someone like Gillen, who is older, and has no designs on coaching again, would be a much better fit @ X, but he has a tv gig, that's way easier than putting up with college kids 24/7.

Thanks JTG for having my back by remembering me putting the Matta Idea out there earlier. I will include a post that includes a link and some other page/post#s for MHettel
To reference.

[IM4X]

No offense. Just provide a link to your original comment.

We can discuss it from there

Fair enough. Just so you know, when you say, “No offense. Just …” it comes across a little offensive. I’m not sure if that intent or not - if you were calling me out or simply just wanted to see where it was.

Anyway, I’ve included a link to the page and post where I first proposed the “Matta” idea (which was pretty much exactly what IU ended up hiring him to do a little later) and some other later posts/responses elaborating on how it’ll and why it could work for both X and Matta. Feel free to start at post 766 and following the thread or jumping around to see how it played out.

Title of the thread: Travis Discussion

http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?34612-Travis-Discussion/page78&highlight=Steele+Matta+mentor

March 10, 2021 - Page 78 post #776
The first time I mentioned the idea of X hiring Matta to help Steele was in the thread titled “Travis Discussion” where I suggested Steele reach out to Matta. The thought was Matta had his back and leg problems and was not be able to do recruiting or travel much but he could be very helpful with game strategy/situations.


[someone then writes a post dismissing my idea]


March 10, 2021 - Page 79 post#782
I post more in my reply on the next page on the same day. I write how maybe Matta would be interested in easing back into coaching (since the head coach thing might be too much with his back and leg) and why it would be a situation that Matta might find appealing…. He might be interested in helping out X and Steele with practices and during games. I mention that it would likely cost a good bit of money but it would be worth it.

[several more people dismiss the idea]


March 10, 2021 - Page 129 post #1285
I post more, bringing up the article about Matta failing his physical and it is unclear what his next steps are because of his leg and foot and it seems to be keeping him from a head coaching job. I bring up that it didn’t look like being a head coach was in the cards for him at the moment and how it is the perfect timinfinfo and opportunity for someone who can really help Steele and Xavier and yet have flexibility and less pressure. How he someone who had been to two final fours (OSU) and an elite eight as X could certainly help Steele really tweak some things on the court and as a head coach and by doing so help get the team and program back on track. I bring up “pay him what ever he wants” to be some kind of special assistant. be do more and get paid more as a “special assistant” ( set much in the same kind of role IU would hire him 18 days later - a sort of mentor who gets paid a lot to help out with strategy and game day situations (not a just some typical Assitant


[more people dismissing it - one simply replied “lol” another thought it would be “Ludicrous” to believe something like that would ever happen and another poster was a little more open minded and seemed to like the idea but thought it was a bit of a “Pipe dream” that Matta would never agree to]

March 23, 2021 - Page 130 post #1326 (or just before)
I posted a response to the person who seemed open to the saying “most things in life worth doing seem like a ‘pipe dream’ “ explaining how it would be a win- win for both X and Matta. How X would not likely consider hiring him as a head coach to a multi year contract but that he could really help both X and himself in this new kind of role. How it might make other schools fell more comfortable to hire him as a head coach again. I explain how Matta can be there to help him with strategy and other trouble areas. The resilient would be that Matta would help Steele become a better, more complete coach and Matta would help X get back on track doing the thing he loves and can still do (limitation due to his leg/back) and get paid handsomely.

[then yet another response dismissing “All this talk about Matta is laughable… please stop.” The poster goes on to state “No way Steele hires someone who helps him with X’ and O’s” - while his statement is true about X not hiring someone like that - the irony is that is exactly what IU ended up doing- which is what I was proposing X do]


Then on March 28, 2021 Matta is named Associate AD and will assist IU’s head coach and staff

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/college/ohiostate/.amp/basketball/ohio-state-basketball-indiana-hoosiers-hire-former-head-coach-thad-matta-associate-athletic-director (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/college/ohiostate/.amp/basketball/ohio-state-basketball-indiana-hoosiers-hire-former-head-coach-thad-matta-associate-athletic-director)


October 2022
Article where IU’s new head coach (Woodson) explains impact of Matta’s role - basically welcoming him as someone that is doing exactly what I suggested X should hire him to do.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/saturdaytradition.com/indiana-football/mike-woodson-explains-impact-of-thad-mattas-role-at-indiana/amp/

“Well, Thad works for the AD. But he also has been very instrumental in giving me input on college basketball. He’s had great success at Ohio State, and it would be foolish of me not to pick him. I’m always picking all the coaches,” Woodson said. “They probably think I’m crazy as hell, but that’s what we do in terms of trying to get information, trying to learn…He sits in all of my meetings and we talk basketball. That’s very healthy and good for me.”

[xavierj]

Hayes has been a great recruiter. If he leaves, that leaves a recruiting void.

I think Steele needs a Martelli type of coach IN ADDITION to his current staff. Old guys like Martelli or even a guy like Thad Matta aren't going to be on the road recruiting. They'll never agree to that.

Has Hayes been a great recruiter at X? I think people think he has landed guys he has not. He has landed Odom, Ramsey, Tucker and Edwards. He is not the recruiter for the three coming in. Ramsey is gone and hearing Tucker will probably never contribute much. Ben Johnson landed Colby Jones which I think people think Jonas did.

[xukeith]

Go. Get. Sean. Miller. #savetheprogram
During his 12 years in AZ, they averaged 37% from 3.

[IM4X]

In IM4X defense I remember him floating the idea. ( And I have no clue who he is,so I'm not a buddy siding with him). The issue is IU being a BIG school has silly TV money. Even IU, who has pretty much sucked for 6 or 7 years can afford to give Matta a wad of cash to do very little. Also Matta isn't as old as his health would lead one to believe. Having him look over Steele's shoulder would probably make Steele's nervous. Woodson is secure at IU, being a former legend, and a remnant of the Knight Era. This is Woodson's last stop anyway, so having Matta around doesn't bother him. Someone like Gillen, who is older, and has no designs on coaching again, would be a much better fit @ X, but he has a tv gig, that's way easier than putting up with college kids 24/7. I want Steele gone, the whole thing has become toxic. Living in Indy, X reminds me of IU's last 4 or so years with Knight. By the last month of the season, many IU players would just want to get the season over with. That led to embarrassing losses to lower seeded teams. A) because kids were tired of Knight and disappointing seasons and B) because IU was gifted into the NCAA a number of times , as lifetime achievement awards to Knight,(but that's another topic for another day). Just get Miller, we go back to being a force in CBB, and we're dancing every March.

Yes. I can see how bringing Matta in might make Steele more nervous than it would for the more seasoned Woodson at IU. To help in that matter, X could have put an agreement in place that stated Matta would be the associate AD/special assistant for two years. During those two years Matta would get a bonus if he helped Steele get to at least the second round of the NCAA tournament, but not be eligible for the HC job. If X does not reach the 2nd round of the NCAA in those two years then Matta would be eligible as a replacement.Maybe even hree years. Obviously there would be some back and forth on details as long as Steele was given his fair shot and Matta was getting what he wanted.

This is all moot anyway. Still, one has to think that X would be in a much different situation right now if they offered Matta and gotten him to accept a position similar to the one he now has at IU, before IU got Matta to accept there’s. Very likely we would been a lock this year for the dance.

[xukeith]

Yes. I can see how bringing Matta in might make Steele more nervous than it would for the more seasoned Woodson at IU. To help in that matter, X could have put an agreement in place that stated Matta would be the associate AD/special assistant for two years. During those two years Matta would get a bonus if he helped Steele get to at least the second round of the NCAA tournament, but not be eligible for the HC job. If X does not reach the 2nd round of the NCAA in those two years then Matta would be eligible as a replacement.Maybe even hree years. Obviously there would be some back and forth on details as long as Steele was given his fair shot and Matta was getting what he wanted.

This is all moot anyway. Still, one has to think that X would be in a much different situation right now if they offered Matta and gotten him to accept a position similar to the one he now has at IU, before IU got Matta to accept there’s. Very likely we would been a lock this year for the dance.

We had that awesome Evansville dude last year. He was golden.

[xukeith]

I get it.

Take your pick.

2 years with Miller and he goes down in NCAA flames and we need a new coach.....

or

2 more years with Steele.

This is literally about the WORST CASE scenario if we hire Miller with a termination clause.

I agree 100%

[principal]

I agree 100%

Is there any reason at all to think XU would even consider Miller or is this nothing more wishful thinking? I would love to have him back, but is there any reason to think it could happen?

[bjf123]

Is there any reason at all to think XU would even consider Miller or is this nothing more wishful thinking? I would love to have him back, but is there any reason to think it could happen?

It’s wishful thinking by a lot of us on this board. Nothing more.


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[GIMMFD]

[/B]

Steele has a 10+ million dollar buyout? The buyout shouldn’t be an issue for X.

We have $10mil laying around after all the campus enhancements?? Jesus, did Elon Musk become an X grad over night??

EDIT: This was actually a serious question, I have zero idea about our financials.

[xu82]

We have $10mil laying around after all the campus enhancements?? Jesus, did Elon Musk become an X grad over night??

EDIT: This was actually a serious question, I have zero idea about our financials.

I have zero idea about why he would warrant a $10 Mil buyout. He was an unproven newbie to the HC job with likely no better prospects. Anyone know what the deal is? Is this just a WAG? Where did that number come from?

[Xville]

I think the 10 mil is a joke. He has two years left… I’m guessing his buyout isn’t more than 3 if even that.

[Cornbread1190]

I think the 10 mil is a joke. He has two years left… I’m guessing his buyout isn’t more than 3 if even that.

If Steele has a 10 mil. Buyout. Fire Greg Christopher immediately!

[Backyard Champ]

If Steele has a 10 mil. Buyout. Fire Greg Christopher immediately!

Either way, really...

[D-West & PO-Z]

ESPN had an article today talking about coaching changes. They mentioned Xavier in the article as a school to keep an eye on and if Muskies chose to make a change after another missed tournament, to keep an eye on Sean Miller.

Please Xavier, do what needs to be done. Go get Miller.

#StopTheTravisty
#SaveTheProgram
#ItsMillerTime

[xu82]

ESPN had an article today talking about coaching changes. They mentioned Xavier in the article as a school to keep an eye on and if Muskies chose to make a change after another missed tournament, to keep an eye on Sean Miller.

Please Xavier, do what needs to be done. Go get Miller.

#StopTheTravisty
#SaveTheProgram
#ItsMillerTime

Amen!

[GIMMFD]

I have zero idea about why he would warrant a $10 Mil buyout. He was an unproven newbie to the HC job with likely no better prospects. Anyone know what the deal is? Is this just a WAG? Where did that number come from?

Lol that was also gonna be my second question, there's no way the buyout is that high... but regardless, do we actually have $10mil laying around?? Could we actually pay his buyout and secure Miller on a competitive salary?