View Full Version : Game Thread: Xavier vs St John's University (3/2/2022)
paulxu
02-28-2022, 05:21 PM
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CINCINNATI --- The Xavier University Musketeers, 17-11 overall and 7-10 in the BIG EAST Conference, visit the St. John's University Red Storm, 15-13 overall and 7-10 in the BIG EAST, on Wednesday night at 6:30 p.m. This will be XU's final regular season road game.
Xavier is shooting to snap a four-game losing streak that started with the first St. John's game on Feb. 16. Senior guard Nate Johnson, one of the BIG EAST's top 3-point shooters, has not played since the win over UConn on Feb. 11 but returned to practice this week.
THE MATCHUP
XAVIER UNIVERSITY MUSKETEERS (17-11, 7-10 BIG EAST)
ST. JOHN'S UNIVERSITY RED STORM (15-13, 7-10 BIG EAST)
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 2, 2022 AT 6:30 P.M. ET
CARNESECCA ARENA (5,602) IN QUEENS, N.Y.
TV, RADIO & LIVE STATS
Television: FS1 with play-by-play from Tim Brando and analysis from Bill Raftery.
Radio: 700 WLW-AM with play-by-play from Xavier Hall of Famer Joe Sunderman ('79) and analysis from XU all-time leading scorer and Hall of Famer Byron Larkin ('88). XU broadcast is also on Sirius XM (387) and the Sirius XM App. (977).
Live Stats: Media stats at Statbroadcast.com (http://statbroadcast.com/) and fan stats at GoXavier.com. (https://goxavier.com/)
drudy23
02-28-2022, 05:26 PM
Just win - by 1 or 31 - just win.
bleedXblue
02-28-2022, 05:40 PM
Steele said we have to defend 1 v 1 better and I would agree. These guys love up tempo and forcing the pace of play. What will we do differently in order to counter this? Will be interesting. I think we're going to need to score 80 at least to win
SemajParlor
02-28-2022, 08:19 PM
Let's go X
drudy23
02-28-2022, 08:46 PM
That Red Storm mascot looks like Pazuzu from The Exorcist.
Maybe's that's appropriately what's needed.
GoMuskies
02-28-2022, 08:52 PM
Win this one and we can all relax and have fun Saturday instead of having a fan insurrection.
noteggs
02-28-2022, 09:03 PM
That Red Storm mascot looks like Pazuzu from The Exorcist.
Maybe's that's appropriately what's needed.
As long as it doesn’t look the tiki doll from the trilogy of terrors from the 70’s, I’m fine with it. Watched on black and white and had nightmares for a long time. Note to parents, don’t let your 8 year old to have a TV or device these days in their bedroom at night…
X-band '01
02-28-2022, 11:41 PM
Win this one and we can all relax and have fun Saturday instead of having a fan insurrection.
Winning this one is like containing a forest fire - it doesn't completely put it out. But it would provide some desperately-needed momentum for Saturday.
Xuperman
03-01-2022, 12:24 AM
Win this one and we can all relax and have fun Saturday instead of having a fan insurrection.
X does not have a Champagnie OR a Posh (Odom is close). Getting a road kill seems unlikely.
xukeith
03-01-2022, 07:54 AM
Nate Johnson returned to practice yesterday. X needs him. Hopefully he feels good.
American X
03-01-2022, 11:08 AM
I think we're going to need to score 80 at least to win
Why does Xavier need to play St. John's game? Why cannot Xavier dictate to St. John's to play their game?
Why cannot Xavier execute the same gameplan that beat UConn? Slow way down and score in the post.
Xville
03-01-2022, 11:12 AM
Why does Xavier need to play St. John's game? Why cannot Xavier dictate to St. John's to play their game?
Why cannot Xavier execute the same gameplan that beat UConn? Slow way down and score in the post.
Exactly, but Steele is clueless, so there’s that. The way to beat a team like St. John’s especially when you are less athletic at every position is to slow to a snail pace, pound it inside and frustrate them. Get out to a lead, slow it down and take care of the ball—-game over.
I expect though that x will shoot with 25 seconds left in the shot clock, shoot a bunch of threes and play olay d
drudy23
03-01-2022, 11:16 AM
The things we don't do well (quick, bad shots - long 3 point bricks, and turnovers under pressure) are exactly what gets SJU going.
If you play an efficient half court game against SJU, you win. Oh - it also wouldn't hurt to throw in a zone when we can guard guys 1:1.
UCGRAD4X
03-01-2022, 01:00 PM
The things we don't do well (quick, bad shots - long 3 point bricks, and turnovers under pressure) are exactly what gets SJU going.
If you play an efficient half court game against SJU, you win. Oh - it also wouldn't hurt to throw in a zone when we can guard guys 1:1.
Steele was pretty clear on postgame that he has little interest in the zone - even though his players have shown a complete inability to stay in front of players man to man. We may see it for a possession or two - 3 max.
drudy23
03-01-2022, 08:55 PM
Steele was pretty clear on postgame that he has little interest in the zone - even though his players have shown a complete inability to stay in front of players man to man. We may see it for a possession or two - 3 max.
This is just stupid.
Not only the fact that you mentioned that they can't guard anyone, but the ego play that he's "against" zone. Every coach throws in different defenses to throw off their opponents. More stubbornness fueled by ego.
I think the most effective way to coach is to take away the other teams best weapon. No matter how you have to do it. Changing your defense, so be it, box and one, do it. Stopping the other team's best player makes his teammates uncomfortable.
Masterofreality
03-01-2022, 10:52 PM
why does xavier need to play st. John's game? Why cannot xavier dictate to st. John's to play their game?
Why cannot xavier execute the same gameplan that beat uconn? Slow way down and score in the post.
and shoot more threes!!!!!!!!
mid major
03-01-2022, 11:49 PM
As long as it doesn’t look the tiki doll from the trilogy of terrors from the 70’s, I’m fine with it. Watched on black and white and had nightmares for a long time. Note to parents, don’t let your 8 year old to have a TV or device these days in their bedroom at night…
Man, Karen Black spooked the shiite out of me in that flick.
UCGRAD4X
03-02-2022, 04:59 AM
Ash Wednesday
Burn Carnesecca Down
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 07:57 AM
X +2
sgarcia
03-02-2022, 08:25 AM
X +2
I jumped on St. Johns -1 when the line first came out last night. If Steele was smart we would play in the post on offense and zone on defense all game long but we'll probably try to outrun/outshoot St. John's which likely doesn't end well.
xavierj
03-02-2022, 08:45 AM
I jumped on St. Johns -1 when the line first came out last night. If Steele was smart we would play in the post on offense and zone on defense all game long but we'll probably try to outrun/outshoot St. John's which likely doesn't end well.
Agree. Xavier really can’t get out of the 60’s no matter how they play, unless they go to three overtimes so will need to control tempo or they will get beat by 10+. Good ball movement, take good shots and no Curly Neal shows on offense.
bleedXblue
03-02-2022, 08:55 AM
Yes, slow it down and get it in the post
Pack it in as well for the majority of the game
Doubt we do either with hard head we have on the sideline
Muskie
03-02-2022, 09:41 AM
Is this our Waterloo?
American X
03-02-2022, 09:44 AM
Fifty bucks Xavier starts the game missing a three.
Double or nothing Freemantle shoots it.
drudy23
03-02-2022, 09:57 AM
Fifty bucks Xavier starts the game missing a three.
Double or nothing Freemantle shoots it.
And they get an easy bucket off a long rebound.
paulxu
03-02-2022, 10:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPjDfN9E74o
American X
03-02-2022, 10:18 AM
Is this our Waterloo?
Well, Napoleon had cannons and horses. We have..............so much less.
And they did not invite Napoleon back the next year to give it another shot with the exact same battle plan.
Masterofreality
03-02-2022, 10:29 AM
Why am I getting no joy or excitement anticipating Xavier games anymore? (Sad face)
sgarcia
03-02-2022, 11:57 AM
Why am I getting no joy or excitement anticipating Xavier games anymore? (Sad face)
I have unfortunately reached the point where I'm not even recording games if I know I'm going to miss some or all of it live. No longer can I get excited for November/December results because the teams continue to piss down their leg in February/March.
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 12:11 PM
I feel like a broken record sayingt this before every recent game....but a win tonight makes us a virtual lock to make the NCAA Tournament.
murray87
03-02-2022, 12:11 PM
I feel apathy setting in and wonder if that would concern the administration?
drudy23
03-02-2022, 12:43 PM
I feel apathy setting in and wonder if that would concern the administration?
It's all about the tournament. If we happen to find our way in, I think we can all assume that everyone will once again be excited.
I love the BET games and any tournaments games because they truly mean something (unless you're already a lock, which we're not).
I know if we get in, the excitement will be there for me when they tip the ball in the first round of the NCAA.
If they don't make it, we've kind of reached a norm, haven't we? 4 years in a row? That SUCKS - I understand the apathy if we consistently don't make the tournament. What's the point then?
If we don't make the tournament, and also don't make any moves or changes to rectify a very, very average 4 years, why would I continue to invest my money in the program? I'll continue to watch games and root for them, but I'd have a serious consideration for not renewing my tickets.
If we make the NCAA , I'll be excited until the first tv time out , when we're down 12 and have missed 8 3s, one of which has been an airball. Then I'll spew assorted expletives and turn on a movie.
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 01:27 PM
Xavier is winning the game tonight.
I feel like a broken record sayingt this before every recent game....but a win tonight makes us a virtual lock to make the NCAA Tournament.
It doesn’t seem to be working. Maybe you should stop?
D-West & PO-Z
03-02-2022, 01:53 PM
Steele was pretty clear on postgame that he has little interest in the zone - even though his players have shown a complete inability to stay in front of players man to man. We may see it for a possession or two - 3 max.
That is because he favorite word is man, man.
"We have to figure out the man to man, man. You know man, there is no defense like man to man. Man."
muskiefan82
03-02-2022, 01:53 PM
Xavier is winning the game tonight.
If X was in the SEC, and this was football, and winning tonight meant two teams got in to the CFP instead of just one, then I would believe that completely.
As it is, this is a game that every player should start with energy and determination. No letdowns. All effort.
We will see.
MHettel
03-02-2022, 02:07 PM
I hope the refs bring their whistles.
I'm already fucking irritated at the thought of all the grabs and holds and bumps and slaps that St. Johns seems to get away with EVERY time we play them.
It must be nice to be able to force that many turnovers without the refs calling fouls.
American X
03-02-2022, 03:36 PM
and shoot more threes!!!!!!!!
Fifty bucks Xavier starts the game missing a three.
Double or nothing Freemantle shoots it.
And they get an easy bucket off a long rebound.
It actually may be worse if they start by making a three, then they think they cannot miss. Start 4-4 and end up 4-20.
whopper
03-02-2022, 03:54 PM
I hope the refs bring their whistles.
I'm already fucking irritated at the thought of all the grabs and holds and bumps and slaps that St. Johns seems to get away with EVERY time we play them.
It must be nice to be able to force that many turnovers without the refs calling fouls.. We have to be strong with the ball, no one handed passes, no needless between the legs dribble.. Secure the rebound knowing someone is coming from behind and someon will cheat the passing lanes. It is a mindset that we have not had (actually Kunkel for what it's worth is the most secure and safe ball handler)
paulxu
03-02-2022, 04:02 PM
This would be a perfect time to start a streak.
D-West & PO-Z
03-02-2022, 04:57 PM
This would be a perfect time to start a streak.
Through the quad and into the gymnasium.
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 05:11 PM
It would at least be a nice time to stop a streak!
Xville
03-02-2022, 05:26 PM
Through the quad and into the gymnasium.
Bring your green hat!
xuphan
03-02-2022, 05:47 PM
Xavier is winning the game tonight.
Love This!!! Yes, we ARE going to win this game!
N67ER
03-02-2022, 06:08 PM
Really bad omen! Was setting TV to record from my Ipad and the opening screen on for the Spectrum TV app says:
guide actually says "2022 NIT Basketball Tournament"! Yikes.
Really bad omen! Was setting TV to record from my Ipad and the opening screen on for the Spectrum TV app says:
guide actually says "2022 NIT Basketball Tournament"! Yikes.
The Hoops Gods be messin’ with you!
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 06:35 PM
Is it too early for me to complain about pace, 2 minutes in? SLOW IT DOWN
Xville
03-02-2022, 06:38 PM
Is it too early for me to complain about pace, 2 minutes in? SLOW IT DOWN
Steele is an idiot. I don’t know why we should expect anything different than what we are seeing.
I found a new cooking show I enjoy.
Xville
03-02-2022, 06:40 PM
Turning it off.. seen enough. Hope they come back and win but first 4 minutes just told me a lot.
xuphan
03-02-2022, 06:40 PM
Steele is an idiot. I don’t know why we should expect anything different than what we are seeing.
Rough start on the road. We need to settle in and get back into this.
xuphan
03-02-2022, 06:44 PM
Good to see Edwards working hard on the glass.
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 06:45 PM
No idea why Cesare gets taken out there.
Lloyd Braun
03-02-2022, 06:47 PM
At the rim percentage is… not good
xuphan
03-02-2022, 06:47 PM
Ugly offense from both teams.
kellernr
03-02-2022, 06:47 PM
2 of 17 to start the game. Bring in the walk ons. They might be able to hit some shots.
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kellernr
03-02-2022, 06:48 PM
No idea why Cesare gets taken out there.Because Steele has no clue what he's doing.
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X-band '01
03-02-2022, 06:49 PM
I can't tell if that's finally a Nate Johnson sighting or someone impersonating Nate Johnson.
SM#24
03-02-2022, 06:50 PM
17% from the field, 33% from FT…only down 4.
We so got this.
xuphan
03-02-2022, 06:52 PM
17% from the field, 33% from FT…only down 4.
We so got this.
Need some leadership out there.
ArizonaXUGrad
03-02-2022, 06:52 PM
We aren’t winning tonight and we aren’t going to the NCAA. Stop, Steele has shown nothing to me that he will adjust and change his scheme to win a game he needs. He is the guy in the meeting who thinks he is the smartest and just continues to annoy you with his stupid comments and ideas.
X Factor
03-02-2022, 06:53 PM
They honestly look like this is the first game of the season and have practiced only a few times.
X Factor
03-02-2022, 06:54 PM
How in the hell was Hunter a Top 75 recruit in HS?
xuphan
03-02-2022, 06:55 PM
They honestly look like this is the first game of the season and have practiced only a few times.
I agree. I feel like this is a preseason game.
xuphan
03-02-2022, 06:57 PM
We aren’t winning tonight and we aren’t going to the NCAA. Stop, Steele has shown nothing to me that he will adjust and change his scheme to win a game he needs. He is the guy in the meeting who thinks he is the smartest and just continues to annoy you with his stupid comments and ideas.
After the Seton Hall loss, Steele said that defense wins you games and not offense. Well, not is you shot 13% from the field and 0% from 3.
ArizonaXUGrad
03-02-2022, 06:57 PM
How in the hell was Hunter a Top 75 recruit in HS?
Rankings are just someone’s opinion. Misses happen both good and bad every year. Here it was Taeshon Cherry, he was right around 50 and can’t get more than bench minutes now at GCU. Once upon a time he was a USC recruit.
Murph85
03-02-2022, 06:59 PM
We are a bottom quartile team in the BE. Hard to argue otherwise. A hair above Butler and Georgetown. Keep Steele and we stay there.
xuphan
03-02-2022, 07:00 PM
How in the hell was Hunter a Top 75 recruit in HS?
Did you forget about Churchill Odia? Rankings mean nothing.
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 07:01 PM
I don't want to be dramatic but that Nate Johnson 3 felt like a big shot in the season upon release.
xuphan
03-02-2022, 07:05 PM
Why are we fouling the 3 point shooter?
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 07:08 PM
If we change coaches, no Mike Anderson, please. I hate the way they play.
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 07:10 PM
How does Hunter still play?
xuphan
03-02-2022, 07:10 PM
This St John’s team is bad.
noteggs
03-02-2022, 07:11 PM
Keep jacking it Jerome!!!
Xville
03-02-2022, 07:12 PM
Steele loves bad players that make bad decisions… no other reason to ever let Jerome Carter play
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 07:12 PM
It sometimes feels like the lineups being put out there are intentionally throwing the game.
X-band '01
03-02-2022, 07:14 PM
How does Hunter still play?
He hacked into the PC that tracks Xavier Way points.
xuphan
03-02-2022, 07:16 PM
#FreeCesare!
Lloyd Braun
03-02-2022, 07:17 PM
Wide open 3 against a small ball defense is a gift
Murph85
03-02-2022, 07:19 PM
If I were Edwards I would start the paperwork.
X Factor
03-02-2022, 07:19 PM
What is Paul doing? He looks like he's never dribbled a basketball before.
noteggs
03-02-2022, 07:20 PM
Ummm….Paul slow down and get under control
Xville
03-02-2022, 07:21 PM
If I were Edwards I would start the paperwork.
Yep along with Odom and several other players… I’d ask first if Steele would be the coach and if it is affirmative, immediately transfer. This guy is ruining college careers
xukeith
03-02-2022, 07:23 PM
Good defense. I think SJU has scored less than 65 six times this season and lost all 6.
noteggs
03-02-2022, 07:23 PM
Shot 28% and a lot were layups. Shocked we’re down only 5
Nigel Tufnel
03-02-2022, 07:24 PM
Is it me or was that jumper Scruggs hit in the corner on the busted play a 3? On replay, sure looked like it.
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 07:25 PM
Is it me or was that jumper Scruggs hit in the corner on the busted play a 3? On replay, sure looked like it.
I thought the same and had 29 by my count. I had heard that one of Nate's 3's was ruled a 2 .. but I can't confirm.
SM#24
03-02-2022, 07:26 PM
Is it me or was that jumper Scruggs hit in the corner on the busted play a 3? On replay, sure looked like it.
It totally was
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 07:27 PM
That was a really shitty half of basketball.
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 07:27 PM
Changed to 29!
Xville
03-02-2022, 07:27 PM
12 missed layups.. is that a record?
GIMMFD
03-02-2022, 07:31 PM
I wonder how many times we've broken 30 points scored in the first half, because it feels awfully low, and that's not even that high of a number.
bjf123
03-02-2022, 07:35 PM
12 missed layups.. is that a record?
I certainly hope so!
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drudy23
03-02-2022, 07:35 PM
Must win game - let’s see if there’s any second half sense of urgency.
X-band '01
03-02-2022, 07:38 PM
Changed to 29!
There was a 3 by Scruggs that the TV crew counted as two.
OTRMUSKIE
03-02-2022, 07:40 PM
Edward's plays aggressive and hustles so let's sit him and play Hunter who is clueless in the court. Steele, you are coach of the year
drudy23
03-02-2022, 07:41 PM
Edward's plays aggressive and hustles so let's sit him and play Hunter who is clueless in the court. Steele, you are coach of the year
Mind boggling.
drudy23
03-02-2022, 07:44 PM
So much for that sense of urgency.
What has this program become?
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 07:45 PM
Are we going to get run out of the building? Or do we have some pride? Should be interesting.
X-band '01
03-02-2022, 07:47 PM
Some rando out of the stands has now outscored Jerome Hunter. On a halfcourt shot.
Do we have a scholarship for the half court kid?
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 07:48 PM
Edwards is still not in? Why?
GIMMFD
03-02-2022, 07:48 PM
Some rando out of the stands has now outscored Jerome Hunter. On a halfcourt shot.
I wonder how they give the $500 out in groceries, do they give it on a Visa gift card, because I'd use it for booze... I'm more interested in the logistics of that opposed to this miserable game.
You are open for a reason…….
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 07:50 PM
Scruggs is not particularly good.
This guy does some cool stuff on a grill….
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 07:51 PM
Man.. this is kind of sad to watch.
X-band '01
03-02-2022, 07:51 PM
I wonder how they give the $500 out in groceries, do they give it on a Visa gift card, because I'd use it for booze... I'm more interested in the logistics of that opposed to this miserable game.
Except as the announcers alluded to, $500 is only worth a dozen eggs and a loaf of bread in Queens.
GIMMFD
03-02-2022, 07:53 PM
Except as the announcers alluded to, $500 is only worth a dozen eggs and a loaf of bread in Queens.
Even with inflation I'm sure you could get like 15 cases of Natty still.
Not sure if anyone mentioned it but I love the thinking, “Hey, our players already can’t pass well so let’s have them wear Pitt’s uniform so we can confuse our guys even more in this next ‘must win’ game against St John’s.”
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 07:54 PM
Colby is good.
whopper
03-02-2022, 07:54 PM
hang on X..lets make us proud with effort and see what happens. For what's worth, Soriano, Coburn and Smith were the leading scorers on their D1 team last year and Wheeler was a major contributor on Purdue. There is a reason this is a good team as they probably have better talent. Same with Providence, Durham, Bynam, Manaya were all major contributers on major D1 teams. It is impossible to know what a team is pre season given this transfer portal. I am seeing a team that could play with anyone. Look at that block on Kunkel
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 07:55 PM
Scruggs can't stop me. Much less Champennwhatever.
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 07:56 PM
hang on X..lets make us proud with effort and see what happens. For what's worth, Soriano, Coburn and Smith were the leading scorers on their D1 team last year and Wheeler was a major contributor on Purdue. There is a reason this is a good team.
St. John's is, in fact, not a good team.
drudy23
03-02-2022, 07:56 PM
hang on X..lets make us proud with effort and see what happens. For what's worth, Soriano, Coburn and Smith were the leading scorers on their D1 team last year and Wheeler was a major contributor on Purdue. There is a reason this is a good team.
They're 15-13
bjf123
03-02-2022, 07:57 PM
hang on X..lets make us proud with effort and see what happens. For what's worth, Soriano, Coburn and Smith were the leading scorers on their D1 team last year and Wheeler was a major contributor on Purdue. There is a reason this is a good team.
So you’re saying transfers can be good? There are a few on here who would dispute that.
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Xville
03-02-2022, 07:58 PM
St. John’s sucks… x has zero athleticism on its team outside of odom
Even with inflation I'm sure you could get like 15 cases of Natty still.
Or 10 cases and 10 chicken wings. WTF happened to chicken wings? “Market Price”? Really?
Anything but basketball at this point…..
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 07:58 PM
St. John’s sucks… x has zero athleticism on its team outside of odom
Rumor has it Edwards is athletic. But he's just a rumor.
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 07:59 PM
Scruggs is bad. Here comes our run.
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 07:59 PM
Any progress on the MLB lockouts? I'm a big Mets fan and am excited about Max Scherzer
drudy23
03-02-2022, 08:00 PM
I really really really really hate the Steele aggressive clap on the sidelines.
drudy23
03-02-2022, 08:00 PM
Rumor has it Edwards is athletic. But he's just a rumor.
Who?
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:01 PM
If Steele had any sense, this is the lineup to go with:
Odom
Johnson
Colby
Edwards
Nunge
Scruggs and free should sit the rest of the game, they are horrible defensively and aRe net negatives in this game. Let Odom run the show..khnkel come off the bench.
Run with that the rest of the game and this team has a chance.
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:02 PM
Rumor has it Edwards is athletic. But he's just a rumor.
Never heard of him
X Factor
03-02-2022, 08:02 PM
I really really really really hate the Steele aggressive clap on the sidelines.
No kidding
Masterofreality
03-02-2022, 08:02 PM
There is almost nothing left to say anymore.
drudy23
03-02-2022, 08:02 PM
If Steele had any sense, this is the lineup to go with:
Odom
Johnson
Colby
Edwards
Nunge
Scruggs and free should sit the rest of the game, they are horrible defensively and aRe net negatives in this game. Let Odom run the show..khnkel come off the bench.
Run with that the rest of the game and this team has a chance.
How Edwards gets no run is incredibly stupid.
whopper
03-02-2022, 08:03 PM
So you’re saying transfers can be good? There are a few on here who would dispute that.
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what i am saying is that they were the leading scorers on their team and Anderson convinced them to come to get MSG exposure. I am a dinosaur but it irks me and our transfers were not leading scorers. This is very depressing
noteggs
03-02-2022, 08:03 PM
Nate, stay in your lane please
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:04 PM
Instead, hunter comes back out lol Steele is a joke
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 08:06 PM
Good D. With no Scruggs
OTRMUSKIE
03-02-2022, 08:06 PM
So much for that sense of urgency.
What has this program become?
We have become Dayton of the Beast. A good NIT program that always waits for next year. Steele even if they don't fire you, you must step down. There are plenty of highscools teams that could use your skills. BUT YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOURE DOING.
drudy23
03-02-2022, 08:06 PM
Is anyone listening on the radio?
What is Byron's take on this?
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 08:07 PM
If Scruggs comes back I'm gonna scream. Finally playing right now.
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:08 PM
Stupid shot by kunkel
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 08:09 PM
Ball should be in Odom's hands the rest of the way.
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:09 PM
Gee maybe Odom should have been playing point the whole game and the whole season. A true point guard playing point guard… weird
And he’s the best on ball defender x has
Strange Brew
03-02-2022, 08:10 PM
Gee maybe Odom should have been playing point the whole game and the whole season. A true point guard playing point guard… weird
Crazy talk...
Down needs to stay in for the rest of the game.
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 08:11 PM
Down needs to stay in for the rest of the game.
And Scruggs has to stay out
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:12 PM
I swear to gawd if Scruggs and free come back in this game steele should immediately be canned
Odom. Jones. Nunge. All gotta stay in
GIMMFD
03-02-2022, 08:12 PM
Wild how much better we are when we attack the rim with our athletic guys.
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 08:13 PM
If they change this lineup Steele should stay in Queens.
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 08:13 PM
Nice minutes from Hunter here. Giving him deserved public reps.
X-band '01
03-02-2022, 08:13 PM
There is almost nothing left to say anymore.
Pitt still has a chance in this one.
X, not so much.
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 08:14 PM
Nice minutes from Hunter here. Giving him deserved public reps.
True, but right on cue...lol
drudy23
03-02-2022, 08:15 PM
There is zero chance he leaves Free and Scruggs on the bench.
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:16 PM
F you hunter.
X-band '01
03-02-2022, 08:16 PM
Nice minutes from Hunter here. Giving him deserved public neg reps.
Fixed that for you after yet another 3 chuck.
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 08:16 PM
True, but right on cue...lol
That's what happens when I try to be fair.
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 08:16 PM
F you hunter.
I swear that looked like a set play for a Hunter 3.
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 08:17 PM
Fixed that for you after yet another 3 chuck.
I am trying literally anything over here to save the season
Lloyd Braun
03-02-2022, 08:18 PM
Hunter’s shot was as shot clock running down so not a huge deal.
Where is Strange Brew to challenge my comment on lefties killing X? Another lefty who is defended as a righty.
#Analytics
So glad every time we make close by taking it inside someone on X has to force a bad 3 and clank it to allow SJ to pull away again.
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:20 PM
Making wide open threes… it’s be nice if Xavier could do that
Strange Brew
03-02-2022, 08:21 PM
Hunter’s shot was as shot clock running down so not a huge deal.
Where is Strange Brew to challenge my comment on lefties killing X? Another lefty who is defended as a righty.
#Analytics
No, I agree with that. You don't need analytics to see that. :)
drudy23
03-02-2022, 08:21 PM
Kunkel cannot wait to shoot the ball. Takes SOOOOO many quick shots.
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 08:22 PM
Kunk sucking tonight is killer.
Yet another missed 3.
If only Odom Jones and Nunge were giving permission to shoot in this second half we’d probably be up by 5 instead of down by 7.
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 08:22 PM
Fuck
Kunkel needed to sit 5 minutes ago.
bjf123
03-02-2022, 08:23 PM
40% from 3 vs. 16% ain’t gonna cut it.
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GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 08:23 PM
Mean mug
drudy23
03-02-2022, 08:23 PM
More aggressive clap clap clap
FUCK!!!
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:23 PM
Nothing like playing hunter and Scruggs in crunch time with your season on the line. Steele is a genius. Him and his stupid ass clapping. Clap all the way to the unemployment line
X-band '01
03-02-2022, 08:24 PM
I'd say this team gave up their IQ for Lent, but they got a month's head start on that.
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 08:24 PM
Really, Paul?
KabeX
03-02-2022, 08:25 PM
Well that'll about do it. Beat Futler. Maybe a miracle against the Friars and who knows? Or lose out and maybe ...
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:25 PM
Steele just turned the lights out on the season… way to leave hunter in and bring Scruggs back in the game.
Ballgame and on the season.
Christopher you’re on the clock. Do your effing job
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 08:25 PM
Scruggs is just hilariously bad.
xuphan
03-02-2022, 08:26 PM
How is Scruggs still in the game after that turnover?
X-band '01
03-02-2022, 08:27 PM
Anyone got an early line on Georgetown? I'm about to withdraw my 401(k) and go all-in on the Hoyas.
GIMMFD
03-02-2022, 08:27 PM
This is just brutal.
Lloyd Braun
03-02-2022, 08:28 PM
Can I see an Odom, Johnson, Jones, Edwards, Nunge lineup?
Just give me 2 possessions. Thanks
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:28 PM
There’s absolutely zero defense for this joke of a coaching staff at this point. Just resign Steele.. you owe the fanbase that much
drudy23
03-02-2022, 08:28 PM
I cannot stand this anymore.
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 08:30 PM
Anyone got an early line on Georgetown? I'm about to withdraw my 401(k) and go all-in on the Hoyas.
Hoyas are down 7 at Seton Hall. So they're certainly playing better than us tonight.
XUBANDGRAD
03-02-2022, 08:31 PM
Yeah this puts an end to my decades long tickets officially. Until Steele is gone this team gets no support.
whopper
03-02-2022, 08:31 PM
kunkel has had some good looks go in and out..damn. But this game is ugly.. We are so unathletic and kind of less skilled. We overrated our talent pure and simple. I am so sad for Paul who may have just burned out. So disapponting and this seeding thing for deCoursey is a joke. No need to pile on. This is bad. We have not had Freemantle in except for the first few minutes so something uo there maybe. Damn
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:33 PM
Yeah this puts an end to my decades long tickets officially. Until Steele is gone this team gets no support.
I hope everyone else follows suit. There is zero excuse for this to continue. If I’m anyone on this roster I’m getting the hell out of here if Steele is retained
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:34 PM
Yeah this puts an end to my decades long tickets officially. Until Steele is gone this team gets no support.
I hope everyone else follows suit. There is zero excuse for this to continue. If I’m anyone on this roster I’m getting the hell out of here if Steele is retained
Kunkel cannot wait to shoot the ball. Takes SOOOOO many quick shots.
Well, he’s probably worried that he has to get it off before Hunter gets the ball. Can you blame him?
So much for Steele’s recent comment, “There’s a lot of season left.” Time has official run out.
Big East Tournament Championship or bust.
drudy23
03-02-2022, 08:36 PM
Literally everything this board has feared about Steele has come to fruition.
Xavier
03-02-2022, 08:36 PM
I legitimately have some of the best seats in the house (IMO, first row upper bowl) and don’t want to lose those. But I don’t have any interest in going to games. Steele has taken everything out of the program
So much for Steele’s recent comment, “There’s a lot of season left.” Time has official run out.
Big East Tournament Championship or bust.
CP05XU08CU13
03-02-2022, 08:36 PM
Steele just turned the lights out on the season… way to leave hunter in and bring Scruggs back in the game.
Ballgame and on the season.
Christopher you’re on the clock. Do your effing job
This has become an absolute embarrassment for the University and a pathetic display of Xavier basketball (if you can even call it that anymore). Time to start looking for the next coach (if not already) before we have to compete with other programs after the season ends. Need to try to save the recruiting class as well and bring fire back to the program. I would take an assistant from a top 10 program at this time and give them keys to the kingdom. In all my years of watching Xavier basketball I don’t know if I have ever been this disappointed.
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:37 PM
So much for Steele’s recent comment, “There’s a lot of season left.” Time has official run out.
Big East Tournament Championship or bust.
You forgot “man”
paulxu
03-02-2022, 08:37 PM
Hard to imagine this is the same team that came back on the road against Creighton.
Something has just gone radically wrong. How can Kunkel be 0-9?
SemajParlor
03-02-2022, 08:37 PM
I was concerned about Steele and the the trajectory of this season again, but wow. This is worse than I ever envisioned.
Cornbread1190
03-02-2022, 08:38 PM
Somebody please take some popcorn down the Travis’s assistant coaches. He is Literally getting no help from them at all tonight. They’re just sitting there with their eyes wide open.
KabeX
03-02-2022, 08:39 PM
Well that'll about do it. Beat Futler. Maybe a miracle against the Friars and who knows? Or lose out and maybe ...
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:41 PM
Hard to imagine this is the same team that came back on the road against Creighton.
Something has just gone radically wrong. How can Kunkel be 0-9?
It’s quite easy to see why kunkel is so streaky.. for one he has little to no rotation on his shot. Secondly, on most shots he sways left or right. It’s amazing he even shoots the way he does because his form is pretty bad to be honest. Look at the difference in his shot form, compared to nate
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 08:41 PM
Somebody please take some popcorn down the Travis’s assistant coaches. He is Literally getting no help from them at all tonight. They’re just sitting there with their eyes wide open.
Jonas is already recruiting the good players on our roster for Georgia.
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:42 PM
Well that'll about do it. Beat Futler. Maybe a miracle against the Friars and who knows? Or lose out and maybe ...
At this point, I’m sorry but I want the season to just be over. Steele needs to go. He is so incredibly out of his league
drudy23
03-02-2022, 08:43 PM
Either Travis never seems concerned, or he's just clueless.
Clap clap clap clap
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 08:43 PM
Hard to imagine this is the same team that came back on the road against Creighton.
Something has just gone radically wrong. How can Kunkel be 0-9?
It's not hard to imagine that this is the team that fell 17 behind to Creighton in the first place.
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:43 PM
Jonas is already recruiting the good players on our roster for Georgia.
I’m sure he will do as well as Ben Johnson. Anyone associated with Steele is garbage
xuwillie
03-02-2022, 08:43 PM
[QUOTE=Cornbread1190;725648]Somebody please take some popcorn down the Travis’s assistant coaches. He is Literally getting no help from them at all tonight. They’re just sitting there with their eyes wide open.[/QUOTE
I'd guess steele doesnt ask for much help our guidance.
KabeX
03-02-2022, 08:43 PM
At this point, I’m sorry but I want the season to just be over. Steele needs to go. He is so incredibly out of his league
Yep. I was actually being hopeful there.
Xville
03-02-2022, 08:45 PM
“ first of all, I want to give credit to at johns and mike Anderson man they have a great team Over there man. We got to get tougher man. We need to shoot more threes man. Shots will fall man. This will not happen again man. We gotta figure it out man”
Cornbread1190
03-02-2022, 08:48 PM
“ first of all, I want to give credit to at johns and mike Anderson man they have a great team Over there man. We got to get tougher man. We need to shoot more threes man. Shots will fall man. This will not happen again man. We gotta figure it out man”
Lol
drudy23
03-02-2022, 08:48 PM
“ first of all, I want to give credit to at johns and mike Anderson man they have a great team Over there man. We got to get tougher man. We need to shoot more threes man. Shots will fall man. This will not happen again man. We gotta figure it out man”
So funny and so sad all at the same time.
FUCK! I cannot believe this meltdown happened again.
xuphan
03-02-2022, 08:48 PM
A magnificent 17% from 3. Can we please start recruiting players who can make an outside shot? Unbelievable against a bad St John’s team.
X-band '01
03-02-2022, 08:48 PM
"A 2-3 is a band aid man We need to get back to our identity man"
drudy23
03-02-2022, 08:49 PM
“ first of all, I want to give credit to at johns and mike Anderson man they have a great team Over there man. We got to get tougher man. We need to shoot more threes man. Shots will fall man. This will not happen again man. We gotta figure it out man”
So funny and so sad all at the same time.
FUCK! I cannot believe this meltdown happened again.
Backyard Champ
03-02-2022, 08:49 PM
Honestly looks like the team is ready for this to be over. They’ve looked disinterested for a while now.
Miller is right- they play like they are entitled. When things are going well, they are all in. When they struggle, they aren’t willing to fight. Back to back pathetic efforts.
Backyard Champ
03-02-2022, 08:49 PM
Honestly looks like the team is ready for this to be over. They’ve looked disinterested for a while now.
Miller is right- they play like they are entitled. When things are going well, they are all in. When they struggle, they aren’t willing to fight. Back to back pathetic efforts.
xuphan
03-02-2022, 08:52 PM
Hopefully Adam Baum will ask some harsh questions for Steele in the post game interview.
It’s quite easy to see why kunkel is so streaky.. for one he has little to no rotation on his shot. Secondly, on most shots he sways left or right. It’s amazing he even shoots the way he does because his form is pretty bad to be honest. Look at the difference in his shot form, compared to nate
Kunkel has a VERY short term memory which is sometimes good but tonight I really wish he remembered how off and out of sync he was so he might actually just stop. Honestly this would have been a game at the end if not for stupid shots/decisions by him (mostly) and Scruggs and yeah Hunter.
paulxu
03-02-2022, 08:55 PM
We can I guess, rightly put a whole lot of responsibility for the current slide on the coach.
But damn, if you're playing for this team, and you collectively shoot 32%, 16% from 3, and 68% at the line...some of this is on you.
I'm going to cheer for a good wrap up and MSG result, but the total showing is embarrassing.
X Factor
03-02-2022, 08:55 PM
It says there's 38 members and 558 guests online now.
OTRMUSKIE
03-02-2022, 08:58 PM
Steele has that same memory problem. That's why Hunter keeps playing and X keeps shooting 3's. 5/30 tonight for 16%
drudy23
03-02-2022, 08:58 PM
As always, someone post the postgame Coach Tin commentary.
That is, if he doesn't send an assistant or claim technical difficulties.
Blue Blooded-05
03-02-2022, 08:58 PM
Hopefully Adam Baum will ask some harsh questions for Steele in the post game interview.
Won’t happen, but I’d love to hear Steele attempt to explain why he deserves to be retained as Xavier’s head coach
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 08:59 PM
We can I guess, rightly put a whole lot of responsibility for the current slide on the coach.
But damn, if you're playing for this team, and you collectively shoot 32%, 16% from 3, and 68% at the line...some of this is on you.
I'm going to cheer for a good wrap up and MSG result, but the total showing is embarrassing.
Fair. We should probably fire whoever put this team together.
Backyard Champ
03-02-2022, 09:00 PM
I would prefer kunkel shoot 3’s over Hunter. I have no idea why he keeps getting minutes. None of his 3’s looked particularly close either.
OTRMUSKIE
03-02-2022, 09:00 PM
I say most of those guest are Dayton fans. I assume they are enjoying this melt down and salivating at the idea of playing us in the NIT. UD arena has been waiting for another final 4 NIT banner for quite some time.
ArizonaXUGrad
03-02-2022, 09:01 PM
He has to be let go now right, Christopher can’t keep him and let him walk into the Cintas now. That would be a punishment. That said, he should fired and allowed to finish the season.
drudy23
03-02-2022, 09:01 PM
There is no reason to accept an NIT bid.
xukeith
03-02-2022, 09:03 PM
Who do we want to return and play another year wearing X blue and white (maybe yellow?)
Jones
Odom
Edwards
Kunkel
Nunge
Freemantle
Buy or sell on current roster?
X Factor
03-02-2022, 09:05 PM
Who do we want to return and play another year wearing X blue and white (maybe yellow?)
Jones
Odom
Edwards
Kunkel
Nunge
Freemantle
Buy or sell on current roster?
Nunge, but doubt he will.
Colby
Dwon
Cesare
How about NOT Travis Steele.
MHettel
03-02-2022, 09:05 PM
hang on X..lets make us proud with effort and see what happens. For what's worth, Soriano, Coburn and Smith were the leading scorers on their D1 team last year and Wheeler was a major contributor on Purdue. There is a reason this is a good team as they probably have better talent. Same with Providence, Durham, Bynam, Manaya were all major contributers on major D1 teams. It is impossible to know what a team is pre season given this transfer portal. I am seeing a team that could play with anyone. Look at that block on Kunkel
Exhibit 1, your honor. I rest may case on why Steele should be fired and we wont miss a beat.
OTRMUSKIE
03-02-2022, 09:05 PM
I would say They won't accept an NIT bid. I mean if they do then let the fans coach. I'm def rooting for St. John's to make the dance. They are so talented against us. What does that tell you.
GoMuskies
03-02-2022, 09:06 PM
Georgetown played well and lost by 5 at Seton Hall tonight. With Ewing getting a vote of confidence, they might actually be in a pretty good mood. That's not going to be easy Saturday. If they get an early lead, Cintas could get real ugly.
drudy23
03-02-2022, 09:06 PM
Who do we want to return and play another year wearing X blue and white (maybe yellow?)
Jones
Odom
Edwards
Kunkel
Nunge
Freemantle
Buy or sell on current roster?
Regardless of who stays and who leaves, you have to start developing the young guys earlier in the year. If they're a highly rated recruit, and they don't redshirt, you cannot plant them on the bench all year. You have to pick and choose opportunities for them to get meaningful action.
OTRMUSKIE
03-02-2022, 09:06 PM
I hope Miller is recruiting guys right now. I'm sure Book Richardson has some jail connections that could get us some
Good portal guys.
Xville
03-02-2022, 09:07 PM
Who do we want to return and play another year wearing X blue and white (maybe yellow?)
Jones
Odom
Edwards
Kunkel
Nunge
Freemantle
Buy or sell on current roster?
If Steele is retained, everyone should leave for their own well being. If gone, this is who I’d keep:
Odom
Jones
Kunkel
Nunge
Edwards
Tandy
Sorry but free can go. He’s a net negative almost every single game and I’m not interested in having guys that won’t even try to get better on d or in the weight room.
ArizonaXUGrad
03-02-2022, 09:07 PM
I posted early in the first we were losing this game and not making the NCAA. I posted that multiple games ago. We are getting creamed by decent coaches who have tape on us and know what we do. He has no fever bingeing his system to account for that. Steele is a complete failure.
This senior class at X of student will have spent their 4 years with no NCAA tourney game to cheer for, not a single one.
xukeith
03-02-2022, 09:10 PM
Exhibit 1, your honor. I rest may case on why Steele should be fired and we wont miss a beat.
If you had your pickings, what current X players do you want back for next year? Any opinions on the 3 signed recruits (top 15 class 247,com)?
Cornbread1190
03-02-2022, 09:10 PM
He has to be let go now right, Christopher can’t keep him and let him walk into the Cintas now. That would be a punishment. That said, he should fired and allowed to finish the season.
One or the other needs to go! Travis or Greg! I’m good with either..
xukeith
03-02-2022, 09:12 PM
If Steele is retained, everyone should leave for their own well being. If gone, this is who I’d keep:
Odom
Jones
Kunkel
Nunge
Edwards
Tandy
Sorry but free can go. He’s a net negative almost every single game and I’m not interested in having guys that won’t even try to get better on d or in the weight room.
OMG Tandy??
Here we go again.
D-West & PO-Z
03-02-2022, 09:12 PM
Different year. Different players. Same head coach. Same awful performance in must win March game. You can’t tell me Xavier doesn’t desperately need a change at head coach.
drudy23
03-02-2022, 09:15 PM
OMG Tandy??
Here we go again.
He's the second best 3 point shooter on a roster that is abysmal from 3 point land.
He's a weapon if used correctly. If this roster is constructed well, he can be a sniper. If he's forced to do too much, it will be like what we've seen in the past
T-Time
03-02-2022, 09:16 PM
One or the other needs to go! Travis or Greg! I’m good with either..
I'd much rather keep Christopher over Steele! This program CANNOT proceed into next year with Steele. He has already set the program back to when Matta took over. Holding onto him will set it back to the depths before Staak.
Xville
03-02-2022, 09:16 PM
OMG Tandy??
Here we go again.
He’s the 2nd best or best shooter on the roster. Just because Steele has zero clue how to use him, doesn’t mean he’s not a good player. You trust anything Steele does with lineup or roster management at this point?
Not saying he’s amazing but I’d like to see what he could be with proper coaching
OTRMUSKIE
03-02-2022, 09:16 PM
This might be a hard stat to find but has X ever lost 6 in a row in the last 46 years?
T-Time
03-02-2022, 09:17 PM
He's the second best 3 point shooter on a roster that is abysmal from 3 point land.
He's a weapon if used correctly. If this roster is constructed well, he can be a sniper. If he's forced to do too much, it will be like what we've seen in the past
Absolutely Drudy, I agree we need Tandy and should have used him this year
xuwillie
03-02-2022, 09:18 PM
If you had your pickings, what current X players do you want back for next year? Any opinions on the 3 signed recruits (top 15 class 247,com)?
Odom, jones, edwards and nunje if he wants to come back ..
coasterville95
03-02-2022, 09:19 PM
Well. I have to chose between the Muskies and FCC on Saturday - that may have just made my decision easier.
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xuwillie
03-02-2022, 09:20 PM
I think Scruggs coming back stunted the growth of this team. Adding Harper and actually playing him was just moronic
atljar
03-02-2022, 09:21 PM
There was a big rough patch after the brawl. Too lazy to lookup the won/loss
drudy23
03-02-2022, 09:23 PM
I'm anxiously waiting a MOR soliloquie after that one.
drudy23
03-02-2022, 09:23 PM
Lots of things going on we haven't seen in decades.
X-band '01
03-02-2022, 09:24 PM
Georgetown played well and lost by 5 at Seton Hall tonight. With Ewing getting a vote of confidence, they might actually be in a pretty good mood. That's not going to be easy Saturday. When they get an early lead, Cintas could get real ugly.
Fixed that for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopdD9Cu-So
bjf123
03-02-2022, 09:24 PM
Well. I have to chose between the Muskies and FCC on Saturday - that may have just made my decision easier.
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I’ll be watching FCC.
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