22 Guard Judah Mintz

[xuphan]

Sounds like we are interested in being this PG in for next year. I was interested in what he said about Xavier. Saying that the coaches are telling him they want him to run the point moving forward. What about Odom?

https://www.zagsblog.com/2022/01/15/class-of-22-oak-hill-guard-judah-mintz-planning-several-visits-eyeing-decision-timeline/

[drudy23]

I'm sure they tell everyone they're going to be in the mix from day 1.

"yeah, you're probably going to sit for 2 years and be a practice player" doesn't usually seal the deal.

[Masterofreality]

We are losing all but one guy who could play PG next year. Dwon can"t play 40 minutes. Kunk will be back but he's a SG. Colby isn't a point. Nate and Paul are gone. KyKy is a question mark, but definitely not a PG. He'll fight for SG minutes if healthy and he stays. A Nate type player.
Not surprised they'd tell Mintz he'll get significant minutes. And it sounds like they won't be as transfer portal active.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'm sure they tell everyone they're going to be in the mix from day 1.

"yeah, you're probably going to sit for 2 years and be a practice player" doesn't usually seal the deal.

There is probably some middle ground or else there would be more transfers every year.

[D-West & PO-Z]

We are losing all but one guy who could play PG next year. Dwon can"t play 40 minutes. Kunk will be back but he's a SG. Colby isn't a point. Nate and Paul are gone. KyKy is a question mark, but definitely not a PG. He'll fight for SG minutes if healthy and he stays. A Nate type player.
Not surprised they'd tell Mintz he'll get significant minutes. And it sounds like they won't be as transfer portal active.

Yes, definitely need PG help. Although freshman PG's are players I usually trust a whole lot. That being said I know nothing about this kid, so he may be amazing.

What's the deal with not being active in the transfer portal for next year? Where did that come from? Seems like a mistake to me, the transfer portal seems like it will only become more important.

[xukeith]

There would be a ton of blow back if Steele said, "you start from day 1".

I bet he says, "You have every opportunity to start on day 1"

He would lose all credibility and players would transfer so fast if he made some back room deal with an 17/18 year old.

Now recruits know the classes at X. Dwon is a sophomore. He knows X wants to win BE championship and win a National Championship.

It is a jigsaw puzzle with Transfers and frosh.

I hope Tandy recovers well. He is not palying much next year with Kunkel, Craft, Ward, Jones and XYZ recruit/transfer

X needs and will get a transfer pg/sg who can run Steele's system.

[Masterofreality]

Yes, definitely need PG help. Although freshman PG's are players I usually trust a whole lot. That being said I know nothing about this kid, so he may be amazing.

What's the deal with not being active in the transfer portal for next year? Where did that come from? Seems like a mistake to me, the transfer portal seems like it will only become more important.

They might be active, but it appears that Steele wants to have a mixture on the roster. The portal is an unknown as to who might be available so you have to recruit as if there is no one good on the portal. You still want 4 year guys to have a team affinity for the school.

[UCGRAD4X]

I hope it's just a bit of a slump for Odom, but sometime I watch him play and think - he's going to be out point guard next year???

[bleedXblue]

We are going to have to go transfer portal for PG if we cant get Mintz or someone else in the 22 class. You cant just have Dwon there and no other PG option.

[bleedXblue]

I hope it's just a bit of a slump for Odom, but sometime I watch him play and think - he's going to be out point guard next year???

I think Odom has been pretty good this year. I would have no reservation with him getting 25+ minutes.

Puzzling that he wasn't really used against Nova in the 2nd half.

[Xavier]

They might be active, but it appears that Steele wants to have a mixture on the roster. The portal is an unknown as to who might be available so you have to recruit as if there is no one good on the portal. You still want 4 year guys to have a team affinity for the school.

I’d be shocked if they don’t hit the transfer portal again. They have had success the last couple years with it. Of course it’s a mix of 4 year guys, but I expect them to always be hitting the portal for rotational players

[Backyard Champ]

We are losing all but one guy who could play PG next year. Dwon can"t play 40 minutes. Kunk will be back but he's a SG. Colby isn't a point. Nate and Paul are gone. KyKy is a question mark, but definitely not a PG. He'll fight for SG minutes if healthy and he stays. A Nate type player.
Not surprised they'd tell Mintz he'll get significant minutes. And it sounds like they won't be as transfer portal active.

Interesting- I actually think Colby could play the point. I feel very comfortable when the ball is in his hands. Always seems like he’s calm and in control- feel like it’s been a while since we’ve had that type of PG. Feels like we’ve had a history of guys who want to force things and thus play/drive out of control.

[Masterofreality]

Interesting- I actually think Colby could play the point. I feel very comfortable when the ball is in his hands. Always seems like he’s calm and in control- feel like it’s been a while since we’ve had that type of PG. Feels like we’ve had a history of guys who want to force things and thus play/drive out of control.

Thing is that he is so valuable off the ball. Has a nose for it and his rebounding at the 3 is superb.
As NBA prep, it would be fun to see him get some PG experience, but that’s not in the team’s best interest.

[XUBison]

Thing is that he is so valuable off the ball. Has a nose for it and his rebounding at the 3 is superb.
As NBA prep, it would be fun to see him get some PG experience, but that’s not in the team’s best interest.

Yeah, but he would only need to play PG for about 10 minutes per game.

[xudash]

Did not know where else to put the speakers point, but what is this about:

https://amp.tennesseani.com/amp/6559210001?fbclid=IwAR1bNAjJCJq-r-2xh8ADuRa4fhs-yPbRgpOC8UFdH1aK_IZz8xbhGd003fc

The title of the article is:

Master P's son Hercy, who transferred from Tennessee State basketball, tweets he's headed to Xavier

[xavierj]

Did not know where else to put the speakers point, but what is this about:

https://amp.tennesseani.com/amp/6559210001?fbclid=IwAR1bNAjJCJq-r-2xh8ADuRa4fhs-yPbRgpOC8UFdH1aK_IZz8xbhGd003fc

The title of the article is:

Master P's son Hercy, who transferred from Tennessee State basketball, tweets he's headed to Xavier

He was dressed on the bench on Saturday. Looks like he is a walk on. Not sure what the connection is.

[atljar]

He was dressed on the bench on Saturday. Looks like he is a walk on. Not sure what the connection is.

Some big time offers for him: UCLA, Missouri, LSU, South Carolina .


So whats the rule for transfers playing if they are not on scholarship?

[xukeith]

Have zero clue if this 19 year old can play. I doubt it.
He was at Tennessee Tech for a reason.

More players transferring with injuries.
Master P is his dad. FWIW

[XUGRAD80]

Some big time offers for him: UCLA, Missouri, LSU, South Carolina .


So whats the rule for transfers playing if they are not on scholarship?

I don’t know if it’s still true, but it used to make no difference if you were on scholarship or not. The eligibility and transfer rules were the same. However, I do know that there have been changes made over the years, so I won’t say if that’s still the case for sure.

[markchal]

isn't Tandy a point guard too? Do we really need a freshman, transfer, Tandy and Jones to all help out those 10 minutes Odom isn't on the floor?

[D-West & PO-Z]

isn't Tandy a point guard too? Do we really need a freshman, transfer, Tandy and Jones to all help out those 10 minutes Odom isn't on the floor?

Can't ever have enough ball handlers imo. What if Odom gets hurt? I am not sure we ever get anything out of Tandy outside of his solid freshman season. I hope so but wouldn't count on it.

And let's not forget we can now get transfers who can play right away who have several years remaining. This should be an area we scout hard every year and I am sure the staff is.

[boozehound]

Some big time offers for him: UCLA, Missouri, LSU, South Carolina .


So whats the rule for transfers playing if they are not on scholarship?

I hope he sees the floor if only so we can all scream Master P lyrics every time he touches the ball.

"Uhhhhhhhhhh na-na-na-na!"

[Masterofreality]

isn't Tandy a point guard too? Do we really need a freshman, transfer, Tandy and Jones to all help out those 10 minutes Odom isn't on the floor?

I don’t trust KyKy to run the team. He was a turnover machine early.
More of a Nate type shooter kid

[Xville]

I don’t trust KyKy to run the team. He was a turnover machine early.
More of a Nate type shooter kid

While I don’t know if I want him running point, I don’t know where the perception of him being a turnover machine comes from because stats don’t reflect it, even freshman year when he was getting a lot of playing time.

If anyone is a turnover machine, it’s Paul and he hasn’t improved at all in five years in that regard

[boozehound]

While I don’t know if I want him running point, I don’t know where the perception of him being a turnover machine comes from because stats don’t reflect it, even freshman year when he was getting a lot of playing time.

If anyone is a turnover machine, it’s Paul and he hasn’t improved at all in five years in that regard

Historically KyKy hasn't really passed the ball a whole lot, which helps limit the turnovers. If you count putting up a terrible shot with like 5 seconds into the shot clock as a turnover it changes that stat though.

Mostly I just haven't seen the level of vision and decision making from KyKy that I would want anyone even seeing spot time as a PG to have.

[noteggs]

Some big time offers for him: UCLA, Missouri, LSU, South Carolina .


So whats the rule for transfers playing if they are not on scholarship?

He can play like any scholarship player next season.

Sure he’s not worried about a scholarship since his NIL is 2 million. It would be nice if he could play his way to get one.

[XUGRAD80]

Some big time offers for him: UCLA, Missouri, LSU, South Carolina .


So whats the rule for transfers playing if they are not on scholarship?

He played 6 games for TT, then got injured. Transferred at the semester break and will be eligible in the 22-23 season, probably the 2nd semester.

[markchal]

I am FIRMLY in the Kunkel>Kyky camp. That being said, I think he could run the point some next year. I don't know that we've ever had a full look at what he can do. He had to shoot a lot as a frosh because we literally had no outside shooting. Last year was a lost year because of the depth, this year due to injury. But he's athletic and can score, I bet with increased playing time and confidence, we wouldn't see some of the rushed decisions and bad shots. Every time he came in the game last year (after that first 6 or so) it seemed like he was pressing way too hard to make an immediate impact.

I do agree with the people saying to see what's there in the transfer portal, thats a huge part of college sports now, but I'm not quite ready to totally give up on him either, especially since we'll need some guard depth next year. He could be our sixth man and a spark off the bench...but it's also just as likely we've seen all he's gonna do here.

[D-West & PO-Z]

He played 6 games for TT, then got injured. Transferred at the semester break and will be eligible in the 22-23 season, probably the 2nd semester.

Why would he not be eligible until the second semester? There is a free transfer rule now. Unless he has already transferred once?

[XUGRAD80]

Why would he not be eligible until the second semester? There is a free transfer rule now. Unless he has already transferred once?

Good question, but I can’t answer. I can only tell you that what I read was that he wasn’t eligible until next year. I’m assuming that would mean he would be eligible at the semester break, but that’s just speculation on my part. Otherwise, why wouldn’t he be eligible right now? Perhaps it is so that he doesn’t lose a year of eligibility because he played 6 games already this year?

Check out this article from Cincinnati.com:

Xavier basketball adds Hercy Miller, son of music mogul Master P, as a walk-on transfer

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/xaviersports/2022/01/18/hercy-miller-name-image-and-likeness-deal-tennessee-state-basketball-transfer-xavier-musketeers/6570841001/

[Final4]

The way I read that is he isn't eligible to play this season as he was a mid-season transfer but he is eligible for the 22-23 season (not 2nd semester 22-23 but for the entire season).

[D-West & PO-Z]

Good question, but I can’t answer. I can only tell you that what I read was that he wasn’t eligible until next year. I’m assuming that would mean he would be eligible at the semester break, but that’s just speculation on my part. Otherwise, why wouldn’t he be eligible right now? Perhaps it is so that he doesn’t lose a year of eligibility because he played 6 games already this year?

Check out this article from Cincinnati.com:

Xavier basketball adds Hercy Miller, son of music mogul Master P, as a walk-on transfer

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/xaviersports/2022/01/18/hercy-miller-name-image-and-likeness-deal-tennessee-state-basketball-transfer-xavier-musketeers/6570841001/

"Because Miller's a mid-season transfer he won't be eligible until the 2022-23 season."

I think just means the start of next basketball season. I think there is a rule that you can't transfer mid season and play. This to prevent a "free agency" type thing in the middle of a season. Like Duke's starting PG goes down and they poach a star mid major PG in January.

[XUGRAD80]

"Because Miller's a mid-season transfer he won't be eligible until the 2022-23 season."

I think just means the start of next basketball season. I think there is a rule that you can't transfer mid season and play. This to prevent a "free agency" type thing in the middle of a season. Like Duke's starting PG goes down and they poach a star mid major PG in January.

And that’s why I said “probably” and didn’t say it as an absolute….I don’t know which way it is. But I would think that if he sits out a full 2 semesters that he might still have a full 4 years of eligibility AND they might even be able to petition for this year to be considered a medical redshirt? But hey, we’re talking about a WALK-ON, I think we’ve spent enough time discussing the eligibility of someone that may never even see the court. Let’s move on.

[MHettel]

"Because Miller's a mid-season transfer he won't be eligible until the 2022-23 season."

I think just means the start of next basketball season. I think there is a rule that you can't transfer mid season and play. This to prevent a "free agency" type thing in the middle of a season. Like Duke's starting PG goes down and they poach a star mid major PG in January.

Where are all the "players rights" advocates now? All the people that said it's only fair to let players transfer whenever they want. They should all protest against this absurd rule that wont allow players to change teams (and play) mid year.

What a DISASTER that would be. hope it happens

[Final4]

And that’s why I said “probably” and didn’t say it as an absolute….I don’t know which way it is. But I would think that if he sits out a full 2 semesters that he might still have a full 4 years of eligibility AND they might even be able to petition for this year to be considered a medical redshirt? But hey, we’re talking about a WALK-ON, I think we’ve spent enough time discussing the eligibility of someone that may never even see the court. Let’s move on.

Medical redshirt, walkon, years of eligibility………..forget all that stuff. I wonder how it’s going to work in the locker room with a player with a famous dad and a $2mil NIL.

[xudash]

Medical redshirt, walkon, years of eligibility………..forget all that stuff. I wonder how it’s going to work in the locker room with a player with a famous dad and a $2mil NIL.

Wondering that myself.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Where are all the "players rights" advocates now? All the people that said it's only fair to let players transfer whenever they want. They should all protest against this absurd rule that wont allow players to change teams (and play) mid year.

What a DISASTER that would be. hope it happens

Yeah those are similar....:facepalm:

[D-West & PO-Z]

Medical redshirt, walkon, years of eligibility………..forget all that stuff. I wonder how it’s going to work in the locker room with a player with a famous dad and a $2mil NIL.

Work how? Like other players will be jealous of him you mean?

[xuphan]

Work how? Like other players will be jealous of him you mean?

Sounds like this kid is visiting at the end of this month. Go get him Steele!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Sounds like this kid is visiting at the end of this month. Go get him Steele!

Huh? He's already here.

[xu82]

Huh? He's already here.

I’ve heard both, so I’m confused too. Thought I read he was visiting Jan 25-27. Also though I read he’s here. He’s also available to play…..or not. I can’t keep up any more.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I’ve heard both, so I’m confused too. Thought I read he was visiting Jan 25-27. Also though I read he’s here. He’s also available to play…..or not. I can’t keep up any more.

I think maybe who this thread is actually about and the recent walk on who just came is getting intertwined.

[xu82]

I think maybe who this thread is actually about and the recent walk on who just came is getting intertwined.

I think you are correct. I’m not going back to figure it out. I’ll just wait for the Cliff Notes and pray for a win tonight. It used to be easy to keep track of the roster, but things are really fluid these days.

[94GRAD]

Judah Mintz is the recruit that is coming later this month for a visit. Hercy Miller is the walk-on who just enrolled

[xu82]

Judah Mintz is the recruit that is coming later this month for a visit. Hercy Miller is the walk-on who just enrolled

Thank you!

Can he actually play?

I didn’t have to look up Bill Murray. :-)


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[Xville]

This guy sounds like an absolute baller. No disrespect to Odom, but he sounds like someone we need…physical, aggressive and gets to the rim. Can’t have enough of those type of guys.

[xukeith]

This guy sounds like an absolute baller. No disrespect to Odom, but he sounds like someone we need…physical, aggressive and gets to the rim. Can’t have enough of those type of guys.

Which one?

[MHettel]

Yeah those are similar....:facepalm:

Yes. They are similar. In fact, they are the same.

Any argument you can make for why a kid should be able to transfer at the end of the season and play immediately can be used to argue that a kid should be able to transfer mid year and play immediately.

Give me ONE thing that distinguishes one from the other. If "players rights" are paramount, then tell me why they SHOULDNT be able to transfer midseason.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yes. They are similar. In fact, they are the same.

Any argument you can make for why a kid should be able to transfer at the end of the season and play immediately can be used to argue that a kid should be able to transfer mid year and play immediately.

Give me ONE thing that distinguishes one from the other. If "players rights" are paramount, then tell me why they SHOULDNT be able to transfer midseason.

They aren't even remotely similar. Any attempt by you to make them so, in order to try and discredit the players ability to transfer freely in the off season without restriction, is just pathetic.

[MHettel]

They aren't even remotely similar. Any attempt by you to make them so, in order to try and discredit the players ability to transfer freely in the off season without restriction, is just pathetic.

Solid non-answer.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Solid non-answer.

One scenario has a player play for two teams in the same season the other has them playing for another team the following season. Pretty big difference.

[MHettel]

One scenario has a player play for two teams in the same season the other has them playing for another team the following season. Pretty big difference.

So what? If that’s what is in the best interest of the player, then what is the objection. Do you want to deprive players?

[D-West & PO-Z]

So what? If that’s what is in the best interest of the player, then what is the objection. Do you want to deprive players?

What a sad hill to die on.....

[MHettel]

What a sad hill to die on.....

No substance. Again.

Please, just respond to my question

[Xavier]

Thing is that he is so valuable off the ball. Has a nose for it and his rebounding at the 3 is superb.
As NBA prep, it would be fun to see him get some PG experience, but that’s not in the team’s best interest.

After last night, I’m hoping Colby gets more PG play this year. And if he continues to run team well then I’m happy to see him be the starting PG last year. Obviously small sample size so who knows but it looked extremely promising