Cintas Requiring Temporary Proof of Vaccination

[drudy23]

Proof of vaccination needed for entry to basketball games for everyone 12 and older - also have to mask-up - please make it stop.

[Final4]

Effective immediately must present a vac card or negative test result and mask up while inside Cintas.

[nuts4xu]

Effective immediately must present a vac card or negative test result and mask up while inside Cintas.

The mask mandate went so well to start the season, let's bring it back! They did a great job forcing people to wear their masks properly, I am sure they will have no issues with compliance moving forward. <sarcasm>

[markchal]

who cares? Masks were not a problem for November.

Whatever keeps us in the Tas and keeps games happening.

[nuts4xu]

The mask mandate went so well to start the season, let's bring it back! They did a great job forcing people to wear their masks properly, I am sure they will have no issues with compliance moving forward. <sarcasm>

[Masterofreality]

It’s all going so well!!!

[xavierdude]

Have they seen the data from the Omicron variant?

Masks and vaccines do nothing for it!

[Masterofreality]

I’m glad our President has “Shut Down the Virus” after a year in office with his “Seven Point Plan”.
Liar.

[GoMuskies]

Have they seen the data from the Omicron variant?

Masks and vaccines do nothing for it!

Security theater. They even had a mask mandate at Wichita State to start the season. They probably still do, but it was laughed off by everyone game one and security stopped even bothering. I'm sure the same will happen at Cintas.

[Masterofreality]

Have they seen the data from the Omicron variant?

Masks and vaccines do nothing for it!

Ha. Irrelevant. Follow the science means “follow our woke directives”.

[drudy23]

Let's play this out:

I walk up to random person and show them a picture of my vax card - random person has no clue who I am - I walk in. Please tell me the point of all of this? There's zero chance they are going to check ID along with vax card for 10,000 people - so what's the point?

They started with a mask mandate at the beginning of the year. For every game, I walked in without a mask and proceeded to not wear one throughout the entire game, as did most others based on my eyeballs. Again, what's the point?

If it's to avoid legal action - fine - then just say that. But stop telling me that it's "precaution" or "trying to keep me safe". Nonsense.

[STL_XUfan]

Let's play this out:

I walk up to random person and show them a picture of my vax card - random person has no clue who I am - I walk in. Please tell me the point of all of this? There's zero chance they are going to check ID along with vax card for 10,000 people - so what's the point?

They started with a mask mandate at the beginning of the year. For every game, I walked in without a mask and proceeded to not wear one throughout the entire game, as did most others based on my eyeballs. Again, what's the point?

If it's to avoid legal action - fine - then just say that. But stop telling me that it's "precaution" or "trying to keep me safe". Nonsense.

Every venue I have gone into that required a vaccine card required a picture of your card and your ID. Includes multiple venues in Cincinnati.

[GoMuskies]

Every venue I have gone into that required a vaccine card required a picture of your card and your ID. Includes multiple venues in Cincinnati.

Someone should experiment by mixxing up the cards and IDs. Like two people go in and trade IDs. What are the odds the security guard checking them actually catches that the ID and vax card don't match?

[drudy23]

Every venue I have gone into that required a vaccine card required a picture of your card and your ID. Includes multiple venues in Cincinnati.

What venues in Cincinnati require proof of vaccination?

[STL_XUfan]

What venues in Cincinnati require proof of vaccination?
Arnoff, music hall, icon, and promo west are the ones I have been to.

[xavierdude]

What venues in Cincinnati require proof of vaccination?

Aranoff I know does. And some performers require it when going to Heritage Bank. I haven't attended any "vaccine proof" events before, so I'm just speaking on what little I know.

[drudy23]

Arnoff, music hall, icon, and promo west are the ones I have been to.

Ah - was assuming you meant sporting events (Reds, Bengals, UC, etc)

Did it slow entry considerably?

[Xavier]

Ah - was assuming you meant sporting events (Reds, Bengals, UC, etc)

Did it slow entry considerably?

The one time I went to Arnoff it didn’t slow it down much at all, but they also wanted people there 90 min early just incase.

[Xavier]

Someone should experiment by mixxing up the cards and IDs. Like two people go in and trade IDs. What are the odds the security guard checking them actually catches that the ID and vax card don't match?

Yeah, let’s all mess with the security team. A bunch of people who have no say in the matter and just trying to do their job- that would be hilarious

[GoMuskies]

Yeah, let’s all mess with the security team. A bunch of people who have no say in the matter and just trying to do their job- that would be hilarious

Who's messing with them? Just an experiment to see if it's actually enforced. Because honestly, it seems impossible to me that they'd actually be able to accurately enforce that in a way that didn't make the line stretch on forever like at TSA.

[drudy23]

The virus has won - the virus will continue to win. It's like fighting nature. Nature always wins.

Hopefully omicron pours through the US in the next couple of weeks at warp speed and puts an end to this. That honestly seems to be the best option to eradicate, because nothing else has worked.

[Final4]

Every venue I have gone into that required a vaccine card required a picture of your card and your ID. Includes multiple venues in Cincinnati.

Email from X says nothing about your ID. Specifically, vax card or negative test to enter.

[xavierdude]

Email from X says nothing about your ID. Specifically, vax card or negative test to enter.

Fans must provide one of the following to gain entry:
COVID-19 Vaccination Card
Picture of COVID-19 Vaccination Card
Screenshot of COVID-19 Vaccination record from pharmacy (i.e. Kroger, CVS, Walgreens, etc.)
Screenshot of test results of negative PCR or rapid antigen (within 72 hours of entry)
Fans 18 and older should be prepared to show a picture ID to verify ownership of the vaccination card or negative test

[bjf123]

Email from X says nothing about your ID. Specifically, vax card or negative test to enter.

Actually it does. The last bullet point in the email says “Fans 18 and older should be prepared to show a picture ID to verify ownership of the vaccination card or negative test.”


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[Xavier]

Who's messing with them? Just an experiment to see if it's actually enforced. Because honestly, it seems impossible to me that they'd actually be able to accurately enforce that in a way that didn't make the line stretch on forever like at TSA.

“Who is messing with them, I just want to do an experiment on them”. Call it what you want, just find it rude when people mess with anyone just trying to do their job. Like people arguing with the 16 year old cashier about having to wear a mask.

Of course they won’t check it closely. And I bet they get harassed all night about the whole situation too.

[GoMuskies]

Then don't do it. Personally, I'd be interested to find out if they would notice.

[GetUp5]

What a JOKE!!!

Where did the "listen to the science" people go? Are we not listening to any of the data that shows masks/vaccines are not slowing the spread at all?

Absolutely pathetic and spineless move by Xavier.

[xubrew]

Proof of vaccination needed for entry to basketball games for everyone 12 and older - also have to mask-up - please make it stop.

Okay, I've got no problems with that! Let's make it so the threat of infection is reasonably safe!



Proof of vaccination needed for entry to basketball games for everyone 12 and older - also have to mask-up - please make it stop.

Wait...WHAT!!?? If no one is positive, then no one should have to mask!! If I want to go to an event then I want it to be a diversion from the suckiness of life, and that ESPECIALLY includes the cloud of COVID. If the chances of becoming infected aren't reasonably safe then I don't want to go. If I have to wear a mask despite the fact that everyone is vaccinated or negative, then I don't want to go either.

I'm not saying people shouldn't go if they still want to go. I'm just saying that for me personally...FORGET IT!!

[GoMuskies]

You have missed a few news cycles if you think vaccinated is well correlated with not being Covid positive.

[94GRAD]

Someone should experiment by mixxing up the cards and IDs. Like two people go in and trade IDs. What are the odds the security guard checking them actually catches that the ID and vax card don't match?

Dana's has been subcontracted out to perform ID checks. I will pass along your tomfoolery to my staff!!!

[xubrew]

You have missed a few news cycles if you think vaccinated is well correlated with not being Covid positive.

Not exactly. I just don't have good reading comprehension. Negative tests correlate with not being positive. I thought it was like an overseas flight where you needed both a negative test and a vaccine card. I now see that it's one or the other. So, I guess requiring masks makes a little bit of sense. But...I'll personally pass.

[GoMuskies]

Fair enough. The good news is that no one will actually wear masks once they're inside, so diversion achieved.

[GetUp5]

What's the point of a negative test if you're unvaxxed? You could just as easily be Covid + if you're vaxxed.

Should either be negative test for all, or nothing. Proof of vaccine should NOT get you out of having to provide a negative test.

And masks? If I show you proof of a negative test, I'm sure af not wearing a mask. Can't spread a virus you don't have.

[xavierdude]

What's the point of a negative test if you're unvaxxed? You could just as easily be Covid + if you're vaxxed.

Should either be negative test for all, or nothing. Proof of vaccine should NOT get you out of having to provide a negative test.

And masks? If I show you proof of a negative test, I'm sure af not wearing a mask. Can't spread a virus you don't have.

Exactly. It's a game.

[GoMuskies]

Dana's has been subcontracted out to perform ID checks. I will pass along your tomfoolery to my staff!!!

Foiled again!

[STL_XUfan]

If I show you proof of a negative test, I'm sure af not wearing a mask. Can't spread a virus you don't have.

I had a contract professor who always told us the point of contracts is that you do not trust someone, and it is really awkward to tell that.

The point of masks is they don't trust people to stay home if they feel sick, and it is really awkward to tell them that. So you just enforce it against everyone to avoid having to deal with personally testing everyone.

Their gym, their rules. Don't like, you can stay home.

[GoMuskies]

Their gym, their rules. Don't like, you can stay home.

Or just not wear a mask.

[xubrew]

I had a contract professor who always told us the point of contracts is that you do not trust someone, and it is really awkward to tell that.

The point of masks is they don't trust people to stay home if they feel sick, and it is really awkward to tell them that. So you just enforce it against everyone to avoid having to deal with personally testing everyone.

Their gym, their rules. Don't like, you can stay home.

I actually completely agree with this. I believe in following whatever the rules are for whatever places I choose to go. If I don't like the rules, then I just don't go there.

[GetUp5]

I actually completely agree with this. I believe in following whatever the rules are for whatever places I choose to go. If I don't like the rules, then I just don't go there.

Totally agree with that too.

But, I wish the rules Xavier was implementing made sense. Masks are theater. They know that. They still implement the rule.

Sad.

[markchal]

It's annoying but it'll be a few weeks at the most. If you hate it so much don't go.

After missing a year of X basketball, and with the team we have, I will gladly comply with the rules that are used at a lot of places to get to see more games.

As long as they aren't limiting capacity, I can live with it.

[drudy23]

I'm not much of a rule follower anyway, but I certainly don't follow stupid rules. And double especially when someone says "well, because I said so". F that - I'm not a toddler.

These rules are just as dumb as "you're required to cover your head so you have less chance of getting a cold" - would you follow that rule too?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Not really a big deal. Most people won't have an issue showing proof of a vaccine or neg test and will continue to go. Some people will be so upset at the thought of showing anything they wont go. The world will move on. I just want Xavier to be playing basketball and be able to go.

[XUBANDGRAD]

I had a contract professor who always told us the point of contracts is that you do not trust someone, and it is really awkward to tell that.

The point of masks is they don't trust people to stay home if they feel sick, and it is really awkward to tell them that. So you just enforce it against everyone to avoid having to deal with personally testing everyone.

Their gym, their rules. Don't like, you can stay home.

Yeah that’s nice and all except they implemented it MID-SEASON after they have collected all funds for season tickets and general ticket sales, which, surprise, are non-refundable. It’s bullshit as noted above by GetUp5 and does literally nothing to protect people (as if that’s their actual motive).

[drudy23]

Not really a big deal. Most people won't have an issue showing proof of a vaccine or neg test and will continue to go. Some people will be so upset at the thought of showing anything they wont go. The world will move on. I just want Xavier to be playing basketball and be able to go.

I will still go - but I won't stop saying how completely stupid and irrational the "rules" are. The only way to rid stupidity is to call it out loudly. Sadly, stupid continues to win.

[X-man]

I actually completely agree with this. I believe in following whatever the rules are for whatever places I choose to go. If I don't like the rules, then I just don't go there.

Absolutely. I am very happy that they instituted this policy.

[bleedXblue]

Not sure if anyone else has brought this up. Get there about 2 hours before tip, otherwise the wait is going to be absurd.

Can you imagine people fumbling around with their phones and wallets to show vax card and ID? AND your digital ticket ?

What are colossally stupid decision.

[GoMuskies]

Wrong thread!

[D-West & PO-Z]

F that - I'm not a toddler.



No offense, but I don't like your rules, I think they are dumb, I am not going to follow them, sounds EXACTLY like one of my toddlers.

[GoMuskies]

Sounds more like a teenager. But people really aren't going to follow the rules.

[drudy23]

No offense, but I don't like your rules, I think they are dumb, I am not going to follow them, sounds EXACTLY like one of my toddlers.

Legit rules to follow are fine - questioning stupid rules is a duty as an adult. If you're blindly following everything someone tells you, just because it's "their rule", well then, have fun with that. That ain't me.

Not to mention, it's already been pointed out how the "rules" have zero impact on anything, except maybe covering their ass, which is fine. But just say that and move on.

[Xville]

Sounds more like a teenager. But people really aren't going to follow the rules.

It’s interesting you say that. Went to the uk-Mizzou game in Lexington a week or so ago and masks are mandatory. I thought for sure in Lexington that no one would be wearing a mask….I was extremely wrong..I’d say almost everyone I saw wore a mask the whole game.

[GoMuskies]

I guess we shall see. Everywhere I have been with similar mandates (other than the 2020 World Series), they were neither strictly enforced nor widely complied with.

[paulxu]

Going to Wofford game tonight.
They require masks to get in, have notices everywhere that they are required in-doors, but most don't leave them on.
No proof of vaccination or negative tests.

Curiously, from way back when, they require the women to be carrying see-thru purses.
Do they require those at Cintas?

[muskiefan82]

So, dumb question. Suppose I have my vaccination card, wear a mask, but also are coughing profusely and have a fever. Can I still come in? I meet the requirements. Will they send me home? All of this makes my head hurt.

[noteggs]

Going to Wofford game tonight.
They require masks to get in, have notices everywhere that they are required in-doors, but most don't leave them on.
No proof of vaccination or negative tests.

Curiously, from way back when, they require the women to be carrying see-thru purses.
Do they require those at Cintas?

Yes they do require see-thru purses. Got to our first game and wife and our friend got busted. Had to walk to car to drop them off. Not going to lie, walk sucked in the rain. However, security guys were awesome and funny considering. Did see some got thru with non compliant purses

[X-man]

So, dumb question. Suppose I have my vaccination card, wear a mask, but also are coughing profusely and have a fever. Can I still come in? I meet the requirements. Will they send me home? All of this makes my head hurt.

Sure, you can enter if you are either a dumb shit or a psychopath for wanting to attend under those circumstances.

[GoMuskies]

Yeah, no kidding. Take some cough medicine and Advil to hide that shit before you enter!

[XUBANDGRAD]

Sure, you can enter if you are either a dumb shit or a psychopath for wanting to attend under those circumstances.

Ah yes sage words from the resident liberal and Biden brown noser.

[STL_XUfan]

Ah yes sage words from the resident liberal and Biden brown noser.

I didn't know not wanting to go out in public while running a fever and coughing profusely made you a liberal. Seems like less than an enjoyable experience.

[Xville]

Maybe it’s just me, but seems that there is way more important things going on with this virus like with schools, businesses etc than wearing a mask to a basketball game. Maybe it is those other things that are causing others to lash out here about wearing a mask. I’m much more concerned with the possibility that my grade school kids could go back to remote learning.

[xubrew]

I'm not much of a rule follower anyway, but I certainly don't follow stupid rules. And double especially when someone says "well, because I said so". F that - I'm not a toddler.

These rules are just as dumb as "you're required to cover your head so you have less chance of getting a cold" - would you follow that rule too?

If the place or activity that I wanted to go to required it and I went there knowing it was required, then absolutely! But for something like attending a basketball game, I would simply choose not to attend. I'm not mad, or upset, or feeling like I'm the victim of a miscarriage of justice. Some people choose not to go to games because they don't like the price of the tickets, or they want better seats, or they would just rather stay home and watch on TV. All those are fine. Not wanting to go because having to wear a mask would make you not enjoy it as much is fine too. So is deciding to go and wearing a mask. I for one have not enjoyed going to games nearly as much, so I've decided not to go to anymore if there are mask mandates. My choice. What I'm NOT going to do is show up and then refuse to follow the rules that were clearly explained before deciding to go. That just makes you a jerk, IMHO.

[Xer4ever]

As someone famously said, you can’t fix stupid

[GoMuskies]

What I'm NOT going to do is show up and then refuse to follow the rules that were clearly explained before deciding to go. That just makes you a jerk, IMHO.

Sort of depends on what everyone else is doing IMO. If people are generally wearing their masks, then yes, you're the jerk for refusing. However, if compliance is low, then there's no reason for you to comply.

When I was in Vegas and realized that only about 25% of people were walking around casinos with masks on, BOOM, mask off. When I went to a table game and compliance was ACTUALLY required, mask on with absolutely no complaint/reservation.

[X-man]

Ah yes sage words from the resident liberal and Biden brown noser.

No, common sense. What would you call someone who would do that in the age of covid?

[drudy23]

If the place or activity that I wanted to go to required it and I went there knowing it was required, then absolutely! But for something like attending a basketball game, I would simply choose not to attend. I'm not mad, or upset, or feeling like I'm the victim of a miscarriage of justice. Some people choose not to go to games because they don't like the price of the tickets, or they want better seats, or they would just rather stay home and watch on TV. All those are fine. Not wanting to go because having to wear a mask would make you not enjoy it as much is fine too. So is deciding to go and wearing a mask. I for one have not enjoyed going to games nearly as much, so I've decided not to go to anymore if there are mask mandates. My choice. What I'm NOT going to do is show up and then refuse to follow the rules that were clearly explained before deciding to go. That just makes you a jerk, IMHO.

I never said I was going to refuse to follow the rules. If I need to wear a mask to watch the game, whatever, I'll do it. Because me watching Xavier basketball is much more important to me than their stupidity. I realize if I want to go I have to conform at least to their minimum demands in a private setting. The rational person in me knows that.

HOWEVER, that doesn't mean I can't tell everyone how stupid it is, whether on here or in person, while doing it - again, imo, is what every grown adult should do in these circumstances. The adults in the room should feel obligated to call out and put a spotlight on stupid things in all walks of life. It's your duty.

This is nothin but a CYA exercise. It's not "keeping me safe" or "for my health and safety" or "effectively limiting COVID". As pointed out by many, these things are not happening, obviously, with a transmission rate the highest it's ever been.

Don't BS me - just shoot me straight.

[muskiefan82]

Sure, you can enter if you are either a dumb shit or a psychopath for wanting to attend under those circumstances.

I know this, but I find it humorous that they don't even try to deal with vaccinated or 3 day old negative tested people who are now sick. THAT is kind of a problem. I find it even more humorous that getting tested 72 hours ago makes you immune from contracting the virus during the past 2 days. ALL OF THIS IS LUDICROUS at this point.

[drudy23]

I will say, if I was an unvaccinated season ticket holder right now, I'd be extremely pissed.

[STL_XUfan]

I know this, but I find it humorous that they don't even try to deal with vaccinated or 3 day old negative tested people who are now sick. THAT is kind of a problem. I find it even more humorous that getting tested 72 hours ago makes you immune from contracting the virus during the past 2 days. ALL OF THIS IS LUDICROUS at this point.

You stumbled into the reason they are also requiring masks, because of the shortcomings of even this system. So they added the additional mask layer to deal with it.

The alternative is to not deal with the issue you described above, or if they want to be really safe, don't allow fans. I am happy they choose the option that lets me go to the games.

[MADXSTER]

Remember, as of now this is only for the Month of January.

[XUBison]

So, dumb question. Suppose I have my vaccination card, wear a mask, but also are coughing profusely and have a fever. Can I still come in? I meet the requirements. Will they send me home? All of this makes my head hurt.

No worries. You’ll just cough and sneeze into the mask you’ll be required to wear. Problem solved.

[XUBison]

Maybe it’s just me, but seems that there is way more important things going on with this virus like with schools, businesses etc than wearing a mask to a basketball game. Maybe it is those other things that are causing others to lash out here about wearing a mask. I’m much more concerned with the possibility that my grade school kids could go back to remote learning.

This is exactly right. But if we don’t start calling out the absurdity everywhere, it won’t stop anywhere.

[drudy23]

Masks have been proven to eradicate this thing, you'll be fine (sarcasm intended).

[X-man]

I will say, if I was an unvaccinated season ticket holder right now, I'd be extremely pissed.

Tough shit. Get vaxed, get tested, or don't come.

[paulxu]

Sort of depends on what everyone else is doing IMO. If people are generally wearing their masks, then yes, you're the jerk for refusing. However, if compliance is low, then there's no reason for you to comply.

If there was actual value to wearing the mask to protect you, and others, wouldn't what you say be backwards?

Wouldn't you want to be wearing it if others were not, to protect yourself and them?

[drudy23]

Tough shit. Get vaxed, get tested, or don't come.

I am vaxxed. You're missing the point.

But for those that aren't, and have paid for a full season of tickets and donations, you better believe they are entitled to some of that as well. Or at least should be.

I know if I was unvaxxed, and for whatever reason continue to choose to not get vaxxed, I would be demanding by money back and wouldn't take no for an answer.

[XUBANDGRAD]

Tough shit. Get vaxed, get tested, or don't come.

Man you have a big heart! No really - get your heart checked to make sure you aren’t going to die from a heart attack from the vax.

[GoMuskies]

If there was actual value to wearing the mask to protect you, and others, wouldn't what you say be backwards?

Wouldn't you want to be wearing it if others were not, to protect yourself and them?

I don't really need the protection (particularly not at this point). If others are wearing them, masks up. If not, negatory.

[Blue Blooded-05]

It's annoying but it'll be a few weeks at the most. If you hate it so much don't go.

Yup... just two weeks to slow the spread, everybody!

[XU '11]

I never said I was going to refuse to follow the rules. If I need to wear a mask to watch the game, whatever, I'll do it. Because me watching Xavier basketball is much more important to me than their stupidity. I realize if I want to go I have to conform at least to their minimum demands in a private setting. The rational person in me knows that.

HOWEVER, that doesn't mean I can't tell everyone how stupid it is, whether on here or in person, while doing it - again, imo, is what every grown adult should do in these circumstances. The adults in the room should feel obligated to call out and put a spotlight on stupid things in all walks of life. It's your duty.

This is nothin but a CYA exercise. It's not "keeping me safe" or "for my health and safety" or "effectively limiting COVID". As pointed out by many, these things are not happening, obviously, with a transmission rate the highest it's ever been.

Don't BS me - just shoot me straight.

If you looked into what President Hanycz was doing at La Salle, none of this should be surprising. They were one of very few schools in the region to have zero on-campus presence in Fall 2020.

[xu82]

I don't really need the protection (particularly not at this point). If others are wearing them, masks up. If not, negatory.

Right or wrong, that is my approach as well. I do it more to be sure I’m not making store clerks, etc uncomfortable. If they don’t care, I’m not worried about it.

[XUBison]

Right or wrong, that is my approach as well. I do it more to be sure I’m not making store clerks, etc uncomfortable. If they don’t care, I’m not worried about it.

Exactly. I also don’t need to be the star of some viral iPhone video in which some random nutter is chasing me around a store for not wearing one. I figure I am a less likely target at places where few are wearing them.

[X-man]

I am vaxxed. You're missing the point.

But for those that aren't, and have paid for a full season of tickets and donations, you better believe they are entitled to some of that as well. Or at least should be.

I know if I was unvaxxed, and for whatever reason continue to choose to not get vaxxed, I would be demanding by money back and wouldn't take no for an answer.
Hardly. It's pretty simple. If you want to play, play by the rules.

[drudy23]

Hardly. It's pretty simple. If you want to play, play by the rules.

I see comprehension is an issue for you.

Nobody is telling people to defy the rules - just saying make some noise about its stupidity. I'm willing to comply to watch Xavier play in person - doesn't make the rule any less stupid.

Newsflash - not all rules are good ones. As I mentioned before, if you blindly accept every rule laid in front of you with total obedience, you might be part of the problem.

[XUBANDGRAD]

I see comprehension is an issue for you.

Nobody is telling people to defy the rules - just saying make some noise about its stupidity. I'm willing to comply to watch Xavier play in person - doesn't make the rule any less stupid.

Newsflash - not all rules are good ones. As I mentioned before, if you blindly accept every rule laid in front of you with total obedience, you might be part of the problem.

He’s a liberal - he doesn’t understand that he can think for himself.

[Muskie in dayton]

If you looked into what President Hanycz was doing at La Salle, none of this should be surprising. They were one of very few schools in the region to have zero on-campus presence in Fall 2020.
She’s a clown and an embarrassment.

[Muskie in dayton]

I’m fully vaccinated. I will not show a vaccination card. That is my personal information and a blatant, intrusive overreach. Oh, and the vaccine does nothing to prevent spread so it’s also pointless.

Xavier can fuck off. You can find my tickets on Stub Hub and I won’t donate another penny.

[xukeith]

Last time I checked these white vaccination cards only have some nurse's signature and date.
If someone isn't vaccinated and wants to attend teh X games, get a basic white card and forge your vaccine.

The mask wearing/vaccination mandate is unenforceable. Get the vaccine no matter what your political ideology is.

[Xville]

I’m fully vaccinated. I will not show a vaccination card. That is my personal information and a blatant, intrusive overreach. Oh, and the vaccine does nothing to prevent spread so it’s also pointless.

Xavier can fuck off. You can find my tickets on Stub Hub and I won’t donate another penny.

Lol personal information? Like what? Your name and your birthdate oh my!

[XUBANDGRAD]

I’m fully vaccinated. I will not show a vaccination card. That is my personal information and a blatant, intrusive overreach. Oh, and the vaccine does nothing to prevent spread so it’s also pointless.

Xavier can fuck off. You can find my tickets on Stub Hub and I won’t donate another penny.

Amen - we are not renewing our tickets and have taken X out of our will as we would be leaving a generous gift. This whole ideology of the je$uit$ can fuck right off.

[STL_XUfan]

I’m fully vaccinated. I will not show a vaccination card. That is my personal information and a blatant, intrusive overreach. Oh, and the vaccine does nothing to prevent spread so it’s also pointless.

Xavier can fuck off. You can find my tickets on Stub Hub and I won’t donate another penny.

Stop. Don’t. Come baccckkkk….

[Xville]

Amen - we are not renewing our tickets and have taken X out of our will as we would be leaving a generous gift. This whole ideology of the je$uit$ can fuck right off.

Sweet where are your seats? I’ll take them.

You were going to leave a generous gift to a Jesuit school knowing how pretty progressive the Jesuit order is and now because of this pretty insignificant thing, you are taking them out of your will? Ok sure.

[Xavier]

Sweet where are your seats? I’ll take them.

You were going to leave a generous gift to a Jesuit school knowing how pretty progressive the Jesuit order is and now because of this pretty insignificant thing, you are taking them out of your will? Ok sure.

Right? Jesus some people need to calm down. It isn’t exactly unprecedented- and X will likely be extremely lax on enforcing just like they were during the mask mandate to start the season. Taking them out of the will-never donating again? Sheesh.

[boozehound]

That escalated quickly.

[paulxu]

Wait, I'll raise Xville's bid by $1.00.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Lol personal information? Like what? Your name and your birthdate oh my!


Stop. Don’t. Come baccckkkk….

Perfect!

[D-West & PO-Z]

That escalated quickly.

Fairly predictable however. Hilariously so!

[XUBison]

Lol personal information? Like what? Your name and your birthdate oh my!

Clearly the personal information he’s referring to is whether he has been vaccinated or not. I’m never sure if a response like this derives from a simple matter of ignorance, or whether it’s a deliberate digression just so someone can make what they think is a cool hot take.

[XUBison]

Fairly predictable however. Hilariously so!

It’s predictable that absurdity bothers a lot of people? Good, I was starting to fear this was no longer the case.

[Xville]

Clearly the personal information he’s referring to is whether he has been vaccinated or not. I’m never sure if a response like this derives from a simple matter of ignorance, or whether it’s a deliberate digression just so someone can make what they think is a cool hot take.

Showing a choice made to some random ass person that scans tickets ? Why does that bother someone? That’s even weirder. Hiding something from someone they know?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Showing a choice made to some random ass person that scans tickets ? Why does that bother someone? That’s even weirder. Hiding something from someone they know?

Exactly, so bizarre.

Just admit it's a principal of the matter thing and you don't think you should have to show it and so you don't want to and so you wont go. It's a total farce it has anything to do with not sharing personal choices.

[BandAid]

I've been thinking about "The Sneetches" a lot this past year once the vaccines became available.

[bleedXblue]

Very surprised no one is talking about the shit show its going to be getting 10,000 people into the Nova game. Are they really going to turn people away without a card?

In order to fully do this right you have to:

1. Review you vax card
2. Confirm your identification matches the vax card
3. Hand you a mask and ensure you are wearing it
4. Scan your mobile ticket(s)

Assume they need a significant increase in staff in order to be able to do this efficiently?

If its managed anything like the concessions....oh my.

AND, who the hell wants this job? Going to be a lot of unhappy people (IMHO) going through the gates.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Very surprised no one is talking about the shit show its going to be getting 10,000 people into the Nova game. Are they really going to turn people away without a card?

In order to fully do this right you have to:

1. Review you vax card
2. Confirm your identification matches the vax card
3. Hand you a mask and ensure you are wearing it
4. Scan your mobile ticket(s)

Assume they need a significant increase in staff in order to be able to do this efficiently?

If its managed anything like the concessions....oh my.

AND, who the hell wants this job? Going to be a lot of unhappy people (IMHO) going through the gates.

You think they wont turn away people without a vaccine card or negative test? Of course they will. Now will it be easy to fake and will some people do that (despite it being a crime)? I am sure it will be. I can't imagine there is anyway for them to really judge the authenticity of any of the documentation.

I will imagine it will take some increased time to get into the Cintas, how could it not? However, there are many venues doing this all over the country, and in Cincinnati, so hopefully they figure out how to do it as efficiently as possible.

And anyone who hassles the people who's job it is to check this stuff is a grade A asshole.

Get there earlier than normal for sure.

[TUclutch]

^^^Your statement is incorrect. Anyone who enforces this type policy is an enabler of the true grade a asshole which is anyone who made this policy happen. Were the people who pushed back or fought low level nazi soldiers who were just “doing their job” grade a assholes? No. They weren’t. Anyone on that side of the new policy is the problem whether they were creating it or enforcing it.

I’ll also say anyone who is against the policy but willing to follow it just to watch basketball is also part of the problem. If you’re against it, don’t just say so on a message board. This who just stand by and shrug at something are just as much part of the problem as those who are making the policy. Say it on a message board. Say it with your wallet. Say it with your empty seats and pulled donations. I’m by no means the biggest donor at Xavier and never will be. But I know the amount I donate and pay to the athletic department covers the costs of multiple student athletes expenses each year in terms of food travel etc. I’ll be pulling my donations moving forward until this type of policy isn’t put in place. If people who claim to be against the policy actually did something about it the athletic department would realize a policy like this will cripple them and realize they shouldn’t make absolutely ridiculous policies that not only don’t make any sense but are akin to nazi germany.

[D-West & PO-Z]

^^^Your last statement is incorrect. Anyone who enforces a nazi germany level type policy is an enabler of the true grade a asshole which is anyone who made this policy happen. We’re the people who pushed back or fought low level nazi soldiers who were just “doing their job” grade a assholes? No. They weren’t. Anyone on that side of the new policy is the problem whether they were creating it or enforcing it.

I’ll also say anyone who is against the policy but willing to follow it just to watch basketball is also part of the problem. If you’re against it, don’t just say so on a message board. Say it on a message board. Say it with your wallet. Say it with your empty seats and pulled donations. I’m by no means the biggest donor at Xavier and never will be. But I know the amount I donate and pay to the athletic department covers the costs of multiple student athletes expenses each year in terms of food travel etc. I’ll be pulling my donations moving forward until this type of policy isn’t put in place. If people who claim to be against the policy actually did something about it the athletic department would realize a policy like this will cripple them and realize they shouldn’t make absolutely ridiculous policies that not only don’t make any sense but are akin to nazi germany.

Here we go with the Nazi Germany comparison's again. Yikes, you are one sick puppy.

[xukeith]

10000 people will not be filling Cintas for the Nova game. Many are afraid they will get the covid virus again. Lots of people are afraid to attend indoors.

[STL_XUfan]

You think they wont turn away people without a vaccine card or negative test? Of course they will. Now will it be easy to fake and will some people do that (despite it being a crime)? I am sure it will be. I can't imagine there is anyway for them to really judge the authenticity of any of the documentation.

I will imagine it will take some increased time to get into the Cintas, how could it not? However, there are many venues doing this all over the country, and in Cincinnati, so hopefully they figure out how to do it as efficiently as possible.

And anyone who hassles the people who's job it is to check this stuff is a grade A asshole.

Get there earlier than normal for sure.

The places I have been, you haven't noticed any additional time. Just as you are waiting in the security line someone checks the card and ID. However, that first game I would get there early cause there will inevitably be people who did not get the memo and are not prepared to show their vax card.

[D-West & PO-Z]

^^^Your statement is incorrect. Anyone who enforces this type policy is an enabler of the true grade a asshole which is anyone who made this policy happen. Were the people who pushed back or fought low level nazi soldiers who were just “doing their job” grade a assholes? No. They weren’t. Anyone on that side of the new policy is the problem whether they were creating it or enforcing it.

I’ll also say anyone who is against the policy but willing to follow it just to watch basketball is also part of the problem. If you’re against it, don’t just say so on a message board. This who just stand by and shrug at something are just as much part of the problem as those who are making the policy. Say it on a message board. Say it with your wallet. Say it with your empty seats and pulled donations. I’m by no means the biggest donor at Xavier and never will be. But I know the amount I donate and pay to the athletic department covers the costs of multiple student athletes expenses each year in terms of food travel etc. I’ll be pulling my donations moving forward until this type of policy isn’t put in place. If people who claim to be against the policy actually did something about it the athletic department would realize a policy like this will cripple them and realize they shouldn’t make absolutely ridiculous policies that not only don’t make any sense but are akin to nazi germany.

I mean, lets get this straight. You are comparing the ticket taker, who looks to make sure you have EITHER a vaccine card OR a negative test (two options, not required to get the vaccine) to a Nazi soldier.

That makes sense in your little pea-brain?

[D-West & PO-Z]

The places I have been, you haven't noticed any additional time. Just as you are waiting in the security line someone checks the card and ID. However, that first game I would get there early cause there will inevitably be people who did not get the memo and are not prepared to show their vax card.

That is great to hear. I didn't think of employees checking while waiting to get to the scanner. That makes perfect sense though. But yeah, I agree, the 1st game will have the most bumps and some people unaware.

[cutterX]

Seems pretty simple, if you want to see an X game in person you follow the rules laid out by the administration. If you don't like the rules then don't go and by all means take your own stand and cut off your donations to them. Just don't go off on the poor person at the door making $10 an hour about how your personal freedoms are being taken away from you because all that does is make you look like an A Hole. And really no one wants to see your temper tantrum.

[XUGRAD80]

^^^Your statement is incorrect. Anyone who enforces this type policy is an enabler of the true grade a asshole which is anyone who made this policy happen. Were the people who pushed back or fought low level nazi soldiers who were just “doing their job” grade a assholes? No. They weren’t. Anyone on that side of the new policy is the problem whether they were creating it or enforcing it.

I’ll also say anyone who is against the policy but willing to follow it just to watch basketball is also part of the problem. If you’re against it, don’t just say so on a message board. This who just stand by and shrug at something are just as much part of the problem as those who are making the policy. Say it on a message board. Say it with your wallet. Say it with your empty seats and pulled donations. I’m by no means the biggest donor at Xavier and never will be. But I know the amount I donate and pay to the athletic department covers the costs of multiple student athletes expenses each year in terms of food travel etc. I’ll be pulling my donations moving forward until this type of policy isn’t put in place. If people who claim to be against the policy actually did something about it the athletic department would realize a policy like this will cripple them and realize they shouldn’t make absolutely ridiculous policies that not only don’t make any sense but are akin to nazi germany.


Oh boy, just a little over the top IMO.

[X-man]

Oh boy, just a little over the top IMO.

My response to Clutch and others sharing his view is "Don't let the door hit you on your way out."

[Xavier]

they shouldn’t make absolutely ridiculous policies that not only don’t make any sense but are akin to nazi germany.

You can’t be serious…This is hysterical. I’m assuming you are making fun of people who actually believe that?

[XUGRAD80]

This whole thread has become way to political.

[D-West & PO-Z]

You can’t be serious…This is hysterical. I’m assuming you are making fun of people who actually believe that?

Great troll job if so because I took him for being 100% serious.

[XUBANDGRAD]

This whole thread has become way to political.

Because it’s a political issue. Are you blind to that? It’s a basic institution of medical apartheid. I’m not an anti-vaxxer nor is any of my family. But what I am is a fucking non-brainwashed scientist. Any person who blindly accepted this mRNA vaccine without so much as a second thought should be ashamed. There’s a REASON the technology has been under development for a decade and yet NOT A SINGLE mRNA vaccine has been fully approved by FDA. I don’t want to hear about the Comirnaty vaccine being approved because it is not even widely used here. Not one person knows the long term effects of this therapeutic. Educate yourself on the THOUSANDS of adverse events that are happening. There’s a four hour video below with testimony from the injured. There’s a 12 year old girl from cincinnati in this video that may never walk again thanks to this “vaccine”. And you know what? There’s ZERO recourse for these people. The pharma companies have ZERO liability in this country because these vaccines are not fully approved therapeutics. You don’t want this to be political? Than stop instituting medical apartheid.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/ron-johnson-people-injured-covid-vaccine/

[Xville]

Because it’s a political issue. Are you blind to that? It’s a basic institution of medical apartheid. I’m not an anti-vaxxer nor is any of my family. But what I am is a fucking non-brainwashed scientist. Any person who blindly accepted this mRNA vaccine without so much as a second thought should be ashamed. There’s a REASON the technology has been under development for a decade and yet NOT A SINGLE mRNA vaccine has been fully approved by FDA. I don’t want to hear about the Comirnaty vaccine being approved because it is not even widely used here. Not one person knows the long term effects of this therapeutic. Educate yourself on the THOUSANDS of adverse events that are happening. There’s a four hour video below with testimony from the injured. There’s a 12 year old girl from cincinnati in this video that may never walk again thanks to this “vaccine”. And you know what? There’s ZERO recourse for these people. The pharma companies have ZERO liability in this country because these vaccines are not fully approved therapeutics. You don’t want this to be political? Than stop instituting medical apartheid.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/ron-johnson-people-injured-covid-vaccine/

We have another lou yay!

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine

And for some light reading on what this organization is since I had never heard of it:

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/how-a-kennedy-built-an-anti-vaccine-juggernaut-amid-covid-19/2590911/?amp

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_Health_Defense

[nuts4xu]

I attended a concert at the IKON Center (new concert venue downtown Cincy) and they required the vax card. It didn't slow anything down that I can recall.

Cintas Center had a mask policy to start the season. I drink non stop through the games anyway, so my mask wasn't on very much at all. I didn't see nor hear of anyone policing/enforcing the mask mandate. In fact, when I looked around the arena, I noticed very few people wearing their masks, and even less wearing it properly. I attended a practice with a buddy of mine (and a group of AFO members) where masks were required, but I drank my way through that as well and saw very few complying with the mandate.

I agree this is a CYA policy, but once I understood how unenforceable this policy is, I would forget the policy exists. Once I get to my seats with my beer in hand, mask around my neck or in my pocket, I go on about my life and enjoy the game.

[XUBANDGRAD]

You must not have actually read my post or watched the congressional panel. I mentioned comirnaty. It is NOT widely used if at all in the US. Childrens defense fund is merely the poster of the congressional panel. You can find it elsewhere should you like to do so (which I doubt since you seem to want to remain ignorant).

[Xville]

You must not have actually read my post or watched the congressional panel. I mentioned comirnaty. It is NOT widely used if at all in the US. Childrens defense fund is merely the poster of the congressional panel. You can find it elsewhere should you like to do so (which I doubt since you seem to want to remain ignorant).

Not even widely used? Lol sure.

Why would I watch something that was led by Johnson who has been spreading misinformation for months now?

I get it you are a conspiracy theorist who thinks pharma and a certain side of the political aisle is out to kill you and your loved ones

[drudy23]

This whole thread has become way to political.

It's a stupid rule. Period.

It does nothing to protect people or keep them safe. Millions of places have implemented such "protocols" over the last 2 years and here we are - worse than ever. What does that tell you? That has nothing to do with politics. Just use your brain. The virus always wins.

"We're implementing this rule to cover our ass" - OK, thank you, I'll comply - what time's tip off? Pretty simple.

[drudy23]

10000 people will not be filling Cintas for the Nova game. Many are afraid they will get the covid virus again. Lots of people are afraid to attend indoors.

OK, it might not be a sell-out, but they'll come close. 9,500 maybe.

Most people don't care and have moved on forever.

[XUBANDGRAD]

Not even widely used? Lol sure.

Why would I watch something that was led by Johnson who has been spreading misinformation for months now?

I get it you are a conspiracy theorist who thinks pharma and a certain side of the political aisle is out to kill you and your loved ones

That’s fine - don’t watch it and continue to be a good little spoon fed soldier for the government. There’s a reason the DOD got slapped in the face when they tried to force vaccination saying the FDA had approved the vaccine when in reality the version they approved is legally distinct from the version they are trying to force soldiers to take.

Unlike you I work with FDA almost every day. I know what bureaucracy exists. I know what outside influences there are. Why the fuck do you think pharma companies were demanding state assets from other countries to secure vaccine deals? Because they knew they would get sued into oblivion when adverse events started happening.

https://science.thewire.in/health/pfizer-demands-governments-gamble-with-state-assets-to-secure-vaccine-deal/

“ Pfizer asked for additional indemnity from civil cases, meaning that the company would not be held liable for rare adverse effects or for its own acts of negligence, fraud or malice. This includes those linked to company practices – say, if Pfizer sent the wrong vaccine or made errors during manufacturing.”

[D-West & PO-Z]

That’s fine - don’t watch it and continue to be a good little spoon fed soldier for the government. There’s a reason the DOD got slapped in the face when they tried to force vaccination saying the FDA had approved the vaccine when in reality the version they approved is legally distinct from the version they are trying to force soldiers to take.

Unlike you I work with FDA almost every day. I know what bureaucracy exists. I know what outside influences there are. Why the fuck do you think pharma companies were demanding state assets from other countries to secure vaccine deals? Because they knew they would get sued into oblivion when adverse events started happening.

https://science.thewire.in/health/pfizer-demands-governments-gamble-with-state-assets-to-secure-vaccine-deal/

“ Pfizer asked for additional indemnity from civil cases, meaning that the company would not be held liable for rare adverse effects or for its own acts of negligence, fraud or malice. This includes those linked to company practices – say, if Pfizer sent the wrong vaccine or made errors during manufacturing.”

Take this to the COVID thread with Lou. You 2 can have the thread all to yourselves and post all sorts of conspiracy theory nonsense.

[XUBANDGRAD]

Take this to the COVID thread with Lou. You 2 can have the thread all to yourselves and post all sorts of conspiracy theory nonsense.

Get real - there’s a reason I hold the position I do in my career. Ask yourself why the US is the only country IN THE WORLD that does not allow people to sue if they are injured by an experimental therapeutic. If it’s so safe why do other countries have to put up national assets to cover pharma from liability? It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s cold hard fact. I’m sorry your new religion has become Covid but pull your head out of your ass for a moment and learn something new. You can try and discredit what I say all you want, fine, nothing changes that what I say is fact and is easily verifiable.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Get real - there’s a reason I hold the position I do in my career. Ask yourself why the US is the only country IN THE WORLD that does not allow people to sue if they are injured by an experimental therapeutic. If it’s so safe why do other countries have to put up national assets to cover pharma from liability? It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s cold hard fact. I’m sorry your new religion has become Covid but pull your head out of your ass for a moment and learn something new. You can try and discredit what I say all you want, fine, nothing changes that what I say is fact and is easily verifiable.

Crazy people have all sorts of careers!

[Xville]

Get real - there’s a reason I hold the position I do in my career. Ask yourself why the US is the only country IN THE WORLD that does not allow people to sue if they are injured by an experimental therapeutic. If it’s so safe why do other countries have to put up national assets to cover pharma from liability? It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s cold hard fact. I’m sorry your new religion has become Covid but pull your head out of your ass for a moment and learn something new. You can try and discredit what I say all you want, fine, nothing changes that what I say is fact and is easily verifiable.

Sure what you say may be fact, it’s the jump to conclusions mat that you are using that is the conspiracy theory

So anyways about those tickets…where are they? Can I have them?

[bjf123]

This whole thread has become way to political.

And this surprises you because…….


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[XU_Lou]

Because it’s a political issue. Are you blind to that? It’s a basic institution of medical apartheid. I’m not an anti-vaxxer nor is any of my family. But what I am is a fucking non-brainwashed scientist. Any person who blindly accepted this mRNA vaccine without so much as a second thought should be ashamed. There’s a REASON the technology has been under development for a decade and yet NOT A SINGLE mRNA vaccine has been fully approved by FDA. I don’t want to hear about the Comirnaty vaccine being approved because it is not even widely used here. Not one person knows the long term effects of this therapeutic. Educate yourself on the THOUSANDS of adverse events that are happening. There’s a four hour video below with testimony from the injured. There’s a 12 year old girl from cincinnati in this video that may never walk again thanks to this “vaccine”. And you know what? There’s ZERO recourse for these people. The pharma companies have ZERO liability in this country because these vaccines are not fully approved therapeutics. You don’t want this to be political? Than stop instituting medical apartheid.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/ron-johnson-people-injured-covid-vaccine/

Dude - you're 100% correct on all this. These clowns nipping at your heels have overdosed on the Fauci Kool-aid....

For the record, for those that are not aware, do you know how many people died of Covid during the Pfizer and Moderna Phase 3 vaccines trials?

Exactly 1.

So why were the numbers so low compared to what we’ve seen in the real world over the last 18 months? One, because not enough people were included in the trials. More importantly, the two trials lasted less than 4 months. So there wasn’t enough time to gage whether their efficacy would last or not.

Between the two “studies”, exactly 466 people got Covid during the trial periods.

Yes, that’s right; these garbage “studies” were used to justify jabbing every single person in the world with this snake oil. Isn’t it a coincidence that the efficacy of these same “vaccines” begins to wane after 3 or 4 months?

Before anyone tries to gaslight and tell us that the vaccines were created to reduce the severity of Covid, remember, we were all led to believe, and were told countless times by Fauci and the medical establishment, that the vaccines would “stop Covid in its tracks”. Sorry, it’s all on video if you don’t remember.

If you still think vaccines are working, you’re simply not informed. The data is undeniable at this point.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2035389

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577

[GoMuskies]

Oh boy

[XUBANDGRAD]

Sure what you say may be fact, it’s the jump to conclusions mat that you are using that is the conspiracy theory

So anyways about those tickets…where are they? Can I have them?

What conclusion am I jumping to? I’m saying use your fucking brain for a moment instead of being force fed a narrative.

I’d rather let my tickets go unused than give them away to someone who calls me a conspiracy theorist. No, they’ll go unused the rest of the year and then go up for sale when i don’t renew next year. I’d rather give my donation to a worthy cause like Matthew’s 25. 4 seats into the pool after over a decade of having tickets.

[94GRAD]

What conclusion am I jumping to? I’m saying use your fucking brain for a moment instead of being force fed a narrative.

I’d rather let my tickets go unused than give them away to someone who calls me a conspiracy theorist. No, they’ll go unused the rest of the year and then go up for sale when i don’t renew next year. I’d rather give my donation to a worthy cause like Matthew’s 25. 4 seats into the pool after over a decade of having tickets.

What Section and row so I know what to look for next year when I get the chance to upgrade?

[X-man]

What Section and row so I know what to look for next year when I get the chance to upgrade?

Yes, please share because there are several of us looking to upgrade. And a major league hitter like yourself undoubtedly has four high-end seats!

[Final4]

I stopped opening the Covid thread because of the insufferable bullshit from Lou. Now he’s posting on other threads. Can’t the mods do something to limit his activity to just the Covid thread?

[cutterX]

What Section and row so I know what to look for next year when I get the chance to upgrade?

Ok now that's pretty damn funny! Public Reps for you 94Grad. And I agree with all this outrage I will be looking to upgrade my seats next year too!

[XUBANDGRAD]

As if I’d out myself on here. I’m well aware of who checks these boards and has access to information about me.

[XU_Lou]

I stopped opening the Covid thread because of the insufferable bullshit from Lou. Now he’s posting on other threads. Can’t the mods do something to limit his activity to just the Covid thread?

Ahh, another Democrat wanting to turn XH into Twitter...

[94GRAD]

As if I’d out myself on here. I’m well aware of who checks these boards and has access to information about me.

Understandable, How about giving the section?

[American X]

I just wish someone would do their own research and post the facts here.

[cutterX]

I need to borrow a tinfoil hat.

[Strange Brew]

I just wish someone would do their own research and post the facts here.

The facts are Xavier is requiring vax cards and masks to attend games. Some people are upset about it and others are upset that they're upset. :)

[jhelmes37]

I usually go to 247 for the chat rooms but they ban all this sort of talk over there as soon as it gets heated. I came over here and you guys definitely didn't disappoint! Keep it going, this is fantastic entertainment!

[D-West & PO-Z]

The facts are Xavier is requiring vax cards and masks to attend games. Some people are upset about it and others are upset that they're comparing it to Nazi Germany, while equating ticket takers to Nazi soldiers.

Fixed it for you!

[Strange Brew]

Fixed it for you!

Deine Papiere bitte. :)

[Xville]

What conclusion am I jumping to? I’m saying use your fucking brain for a moment instead of being force fed a narrative.

I’d rather let my tickets go unused than give them away to someone who calls me a conspiracy theorist. No, they’ll go unused the rest of the year and then go up for sale when i don’t renew next year. I’d rather give my donation to a worthy cause like Matthew’s 25. 4 seats into the pool after over a decade of having tickets.

Good for you…don’t let the door hit you on the way out. If things like masks upsets you this much, I’d hate to see what happens when real life hits you in the face.

[boozehound]

Crazy people have all sorts of careers!

This thread now officially has it all. "I'm right because I'm a big important guy at work" was the last open square on my bingo board!

Oh yeah? Well I'm a millionaire cowboy astronaut!

https://i.imgur.com/GDQz1k7.png


140 posts and counting in like 24 hours, people. This is 'coaching change' level engagement.

[XUBANDGRAD]

Good for you…don’t let the door hit you on the way out. If things like masks upsets you this much, I’d hate to see what happens when real life hits you in the face.

Where did I say I was upset about masks? Would love to see you find anywhere I even mentioned masks.

[Xville]

Where did I say I was upset about masks? Would love to see you find anywhere I even mentioned masks.

vaccines, masks, having to show a negative test, whatever. Why are you even still here? You’re giving up your tickets and donations, might as well give up posting on the school’s athletic message board.

[XUBANDGRAD]

vaccines, masks, having to show a negative test, whatever. Why are you even still here? You’re giving up your tickets and donations, might as well give up posting on the school’s athletic message board.

Ah yes, getting called out for saying something stupid so you resort to this fun argument. I’m here because I want to be and will remain here if I wish.

[MuskiePimp23]

I usually go to 247 for the chat rooms but they ban all this sort of talk over there as soon as it gets heated. I came over here and you guys definitely didn't disappoint! Keep it going, this is fantastic entertainment!

247 is a Boys club and Broering let's his buddies say whatever they want and when you put forth and opposing view, you get censored. It's beyond ridiculous. I will also be done with Xavier pulling my seats and donations after this. There are many out there with similar feelings who don't post on message boards. Xavier and this new President seem to be taking extremist measures not based on any "science". Common sense is hard for a lot of people.

[boozehound]

This thread is amazing. I can't look away, but I know I should.

Xavier asks people to show vax cards for a month and these guys just completely melt down. Threatening to 'pull their donations'. Taking Xavier out of their will. I'm sure Xavier will get by without your $400, bro.

[Xville]

Ah yes, getting called out for saying something stupid so you resort to this fun argument. I’m here because I want to be and will remain here if I wish.

Saying something stupid? Nah you’re confused. You’re the one throwing a toddler tantrum pulling your tickets and donations away.

What make believe section you have your tickets in?

[Strange Brew]

Saying something stupid? Nah you’re confused. You’re the one throwing a toddler tantrum pulling your tickets and donations away.

What make believe section you have your tickets in?

He's voicing his option with his feet/dollars. Where his seats are is none of your business.

[Xville]

He's voicing his option with his feet/dollars. Where his seats are is none of your business.

You think I really give a crap where his make believe seats are?

[Strange Brew]

You think I really give a crap where his make believe seats are?

Then why did you ask?

[Xville]

Then why did you ask?

I guess I didn’t have my mocking/sarcasm font on

[XUBANDGRAD]

You think I really give a crap where his make believe seats are?

My make believe seats lol this guy is a freaking riot.

[94GRAD]

My make believe seats lol this guy is a freaking riot.

Still looking to find out watch section will have extra seats available in which to upgrade.

[XUGRAD80]

In every business there is turnover of customers. I’ve a feeling that X can find replacements for these customers.

[X-man]

My make believe seats lol this guy is a freaking riot.

Again, don't let the door hit you on your way out.

[GoMuskies]

Is this thread real life? I think the vaccine/masking requirements are dumb, and I'm sure will only be loosely enforced/complied with (particularly the masks), but THIS is the issue that is making some lose their minds?

[American X]

I think everyone's masks are on too tight and we are not getting enough oxygen to the brain.

[jhelmes37]

247 is a Boys club and Broering let's his buddies say whatever they want and when you put forth and opposing view, you get censored. It's beyond ridiculous. I will also be done with Xavier pulling my seats and donations after this. There are many out there with similar feelings who don't post on message boards. Xavier and this new President seem to be taking extremist measures not based on any "science". Common sense is hard for a lot of people.

It's a way different beast - people pay to be there. I know that can get frustrating, but people will leave and stop paying him if the threads all go off the rails. I get it but it's annoying when there's *a few* clearly super liberal posters who can post their little jabs but when someone says something from the other side, they get shit on.

But that's 2022 for ya. Liberal woke mindset = the mainstream media. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a racist Maga asshole.

[Strange Brew]

I think everyone's masks are on too tight and we are not getting enough oxygen to the brain.

That's not possible. The masks don't prevent the transmission of oxygen.

Couldn't help it. I apologize. :)

[Blue Blooded-05]

What does everyone think of Steele’s use of 2/3 zone in spots this year?

[D-West & PO-Z]

This thread is amazing. I can't look away, but I know I should.

Xavier asks people to show vax cards for a month and these guys just completely melt down. Threatening to 'pull their donations'. Taking Xavier out of their will. I'm sure Xavier will get by without your $400, bro.

So good, right?


In every business there is turnover of customers. I’ve a feeling that X can find replacements for these customers.

Totally agree.

[American X]

What does everyone think of Steele’s use of 2/3 zone in spots this year?

It did not stop any Covid transmission.

[Strange Brew]

It did not stop any Covid transmission.

If only he can figure out a way to mask it as a box and 1...

[drudy23]

It's 6:22 and the rule is still stupid.

[GoMuskies]

It did not stop any Covid transmission.

I don't know. It may have prevented our players from spending 15 minutes in close contact with any Oklahoma State player. And their outside shots all had Covid.

[Muskie in dayton]

Exactly, so bizarre.

Just admit it's a principal of the matter thing and you don't think you should have to show it and so you don't want to and so you wont go. It's a total farce it has anything to do with not sharing personal choices.
Those two are the same. In case I really need to explain that to you.

[Muskie in dayton]

Take this to the COVID thread with Lou. You 2 can have the thread all to yourselves and post all sorts of conspiracy theory nonsense.
"I don't agree with you so therefore your opinions are conspiracy theory"
-D-West & Po-Z

[Muskie in dayton]

Crazy people have all sorts of careers!
"I don't have a reason why showing vax cards is a good policy, so I'll just call you CRAZY"
-D-West & Po-Z

[Muskie in dayton]

Sure what you say may be fact, it’s the jump to conclusions mat that you are using that is the conspiracy theory
"I don't agree with your belief. You are a conspiracy theorist"
-Xville

[Muskie in dayton]

Still looking to find out watch section will have extra seats available in which to upgrade.
Are vax cards required to get into Dana's?

[boozehound]

Congratulations on your 5 posts on a row. I believe the previous record was 4 (held by our very own XU_Lou).

[Xville]

"I don't agree with your belief. You are a conspiracy theorist"
-Xville

Not quite. I disagree with people here on a variety of things. Some like lou and bandgrad take it to the looney extremist level. Nice try though!

[Muskie in dayton]

Congratulations on your 5 posts on a row. I believe the previous record was 4 (held by our very own XU_Lou).
I was going for more but you interrupted me.

[Xville]

"I don't have a reason why showing vax cards is a good policy, so I'll just call you CRAZY"
-D-West & Po-Z

Again not quite…you are really striking out today. Crazy is giving up your “season tickets” and taking X out of your will because of a rule that may be in place for a month or two that is either showing a vax card or a negative test and then comparing it to nazi germany

[Muskie in dayton]

Not quite. I disagree with people here on a variety of things. Some like lou and bandgrad take it to the looney extremist level. Nice try though!
"Opinions I don't agree with are looney."
- Xville

Hey, instead of trying to dismiss the creditability of people, how about offering a reason why you think this is a good policy.

[Strange Brew]

I was going for more but you interrupted me.

Haha, so close. Try again? :)

[Xville]

"Opinions I don't agree with are looney."
- Xville

Hey, instead of trying to dismiss the creditability of people, how about offering a reason why you think this is a good policy.

I never said it was a good policy..it gets a shoulder shrug from me. Melting down and throwing a temper tantrum over an insignificant rule is something my five year olds would do, not what I assume is to be a full grown adult with an “important job”

Also, people that say the “fucking Jesuit ideology” can kiss my ass.

[MuskiePimp23]

.

[MuskiePimp23]

It's a way different beast - people pay to be there. I know that can get frustrating, but people will leave and stop paying him if the threads all go off the rails. I get it but it's annoying when there's *a few* clearly super liberal posters who can post their little jabs but when someone says something from the other side, they get shit on.

But that's 2022 for ya. Liberal woke mindset = the mainstream media. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a racist Maga asshole.

This is a perfect summary of what happens on that board. I go there for information and not the politics but eventually had enough of some folks specifically calling me out so I commented on it.

[XU_Lou]

Mid - You nailed it! These people you referenced have no defense or facts for their positions, so they resort to demonization.

[chico]

Congratulations on your 5 posts on a row. I believe the previous record was 4 (held by our very own XU_Lou).

You obviously don't remember 2:00 a.m. drunken Snipe.

[Strange Brew]

You obviously don't remember 2:00 a.m. drunken Snipe.

Those were the days….

[XU_Lou]

Not quite. I disagree with people here on a variety of things. Some like lou and bandgrad take it to the looney extremist level. Nice try though!


"Opinions I don't agree with are looney."
- Xville

Hey, instead of trying to dismiss the creditability of people, how about offering a reason why you think this is a good policy.

Your point went well over his head, so he then proceeds to double down on what you just pointed out. I'm not sure he even knows what he believes. If he does, he sure as hell doesn't have the balls to express his own opinions. Demonization is his only tactic because he's afraid of standing up to scrutiny.

[Strange Brew]

I never said it was a good policy..it gets a shoulder shrug from me. Melting down and throwing a temper tantrum over an insignificant rule is something my five year olds would do, not what I assume is to be a full grown adult with an “important job”

Also, people that say the “fucking Jesuit ideology” can kiss my ass.

Sometimes a situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture.

[XUBison]

Those two are the same. In case I really need to explain that to you.

I’ll do the ‘splainin. - “Not sharing personal choices” IS the principle. - That take was sort of like, “If I just keep typing stuff…”.

I don’t see how it’s anyone’s business whether someone else has been vaccinated, and I can’t believe how many seem to think this is normal or no big deal. I’m not advocating to pull all support, and if I were in town with tix, I’d probably still go to the games. That said, I see nothing wrong with people voicing their concern for the insanity of these policies. I mean, this is a well-regarded institution of knowledge & learning who’s all too happy to smash 10K people together in a box while perpetuating some narrative that those who are vaccinated can’t/aren’t carrying the virus. I’m sorry, that is motherfucking stupid.

Some are saying it’s a matter of CYA. I can’t imagine anyone would have a legit lawsuit because the covid they contracted MIGHT have come from a Xavier ballgame. I suppose in some twisted court of public opinion they can claim they “took all the responsible precautions to keep us safe”. I guess some of us are asking to cut the bullshit. - We’re having the game, come if you want. - Simple and honest. Our beloved alma mater should do better.

[Xville]

I’ll do the ‘splainin. - “Not sharing personal choices” IS the principle. - That take was sort of like, “If I just keep typing stuff…”.

I don’t see how it’s anyone’s business whether someone else has been vaccinated, and I can’t believe how many seem to think this is normal or no big deal. I’m not advocating to pull all support, and if I were in town with tix, I’d probably still go to the games. That said, I see nothing wrong with people voicing their concern for the insanity of these policies. I mean, this is a well-regarded institution of knowledge & learning who’s all too happy to smash 10K people together in a box while perpetuating some narrative that those who are vaccinated can’t/aren’t carrying the virus. I’m sorry, that is motherfucking stupid.

Some are saying it’s a matter of CYA. I can’t imagine anyone would have a legit lawsuit because the covid they contracted MIGHT have come from a Xavier ballgame. I suppose in some twisted court of public opinion they can claim they “took all the responsible precautions to keep us safe”. I guess some of us are asking to cut the bullshit. - We’re having the game, come if you want. - Simple and honest. Our beloved alma mater should do better.

There are businesses getting sued because their employees may have gotten Covid in the workplace. This is absolutely a cya move by Xavier.

While you can’t believe at the number of people who think these rules are no big deal, I can’t believe the amount of whiny temper tantrums for a few rules that still allow basketball to be played.

[xu82]

You obviously don't remember 2:00 a.m. drunken Snipe.

That 2:00 am was usually the starting line, and it just got more entertaining from there!


Sadly, that was far better material than any of the endless links from Agenda Lou. If you want to be crazy, at least be entertaining.

[XUBison]

I never said it was a good policy..it gets a shoulder shrug from me. Melting down and throwing a temper tantrum over an insignificant rule is something my five year olds would do, not what I assume is to be a full grown adult with an “important job”

Also, people that say the “fucking Jesuit ideology” can kiss my ass.

Respectfully, you do tend to be towards the top of the temper tantrum leaderboard around here. Yours are typically tied to important matters like the performance of the basketball coach, so I get it. Just sayin’.

[XU_Lou]

That 2:00 am was usually the starting line, and it just got more entertaining from there!


Sadly, that was far better material than any of the endless links from Agenda Lou. If you want to be crazy, at least be entertaining.

Yea, we all know, critical thinking isn't really your thing. Hey, stay safe....

[Xville]

Respectfully, you do tend to be towards the top of the temper tantrum leaderboard around here. Yours are typically tied to important matters like the performance of the basketball coach, so I get it. Just sayin’.

That’s fair.. as I said there are far more important things than rules to attend a game… :)

[XUBison]

There are businesses getting sued because their employees may have gotten Covid in the workplace. This is absolutely a cya move by Xavier.

While you can’t believe at the number of people who think these rules are no big deal, I can’t believe the amount of whiny temper tantrums for a few rules that still allow basketball to be played.

Ummm… It’s one thing to compare unnecessary exposure where you must go to earn your living to voluntarily attending a basketball game with 10K people. And these policies have nothing to do with whether basketball games can be played or not. Delete - delete- delete- delete- delete

Okay, I rescind the latter half of this statement based on your cordial response to my previous post. Feel free to fire back, but I’ll put my guns away.

There, it’s all fixed.

[Xville]

Ummm… It’s one thing to compare unnecessary exposure where you must go to earn your living to voluntarily attending a basketball game with 10K people. And these policies have nothing to do with whether basketball games can be played or not. Delete - delete- delete- delete- delete

Okay, I rescind the latter half of this statement based on your cordial response to my previous post. Feel free to fire back, but I’ll put my guns away.

There, it’s all fixed.

While I agree it’s a different, I really don’t think it’s that much of a jump. Businesses/people get sued for all kinds of crazy shit. I have posted a lot on this thread because I care about going to games, being able to watch games and my alma mater. So if this is what needs to be done, then so be it….the jump from a few simple rules to “ I’m gonna get rid of my seats and take Xavier out of my will and grrr” is in my opinion completely insane.

[Xavier]

Ummm… It’s one thing to compare unnecessary exposure where you must go to earn your living to voluntarily attending a basketball game with 10K people..

Yeah because there are no workers at the basketball game trying to earn a living…

[D-West & PO-Z]

"I don't have a reason why showing vax cards is a good policy, so I'll just call you CRAZY"
-D-West & Po-Z

Once again you have trouble following a very simple thread. Calling him crazy had nothing to do with your made up quote above.

Reading is fundamental.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah because there are no workers at the basketball game trying to earn a living…

Right? I don’t get how he missed that one.

[XUBison]

Yeah because there are no workers at the basketball game trying to earn a living…

So your point is that Xavier is forcing people to work the games and covering its ass by implementing policies they know won’t protect those workers from anything? And a judge/jury will give X a pass because they put up a good pretense? Got it.

[D-West & PO-Z]

We literally had a poster compare ticket takers at the next Xavier game to Nazi soldiers yet Lou, XUband-whatever his name, and Muskie in Dayton are calling out people who take the approach of “eh, not a huge deal, show one or the other or watch from home.” I have no issue with someone who refuses to show one or the other and decides they’d rather watch at home. Totally your choice. I’d prefer to see the games in person but if you don’t no problem.

I totally have an issue with people who compare this to Nazi Germany and people who are going to hassle the people at the gate just doing their jobs.

[XUBison]

Right? I don’t get how he missed that one.

Missed what? My point was simply that the policies are not about covering their asses. And they’re certainly not about protecting Cintas workers.

[Xavier]

Missed what? My point was simply that the policies are not about covering their asses. And they’re certainly not about protecting Cintas workers.

Swore you said it’s one thing to compare exposure on where you make a living vs attending a bball game..just pointing out there are xavier employees making a living working those games

[XU_Lou]

We literally had a poster compare ticket takers at the next Xavier game to Nazi soldiers yet Lou, XUband-whatever his name, and Muskie in Dayton are calling out people who take the approach of “eh, not a huge deal, show one or the other or watch from home.” I have no issue with someone who refuses to show one or the other and decides they’d rather watch at home. Totally your choice. I’d prefer to see the games in person but if you don’t no problem.

I totally have an issue with people who compare this to Nazi Germany and people who are going to hassle the people at the gate just doing their jobs.

What the hell are you talking about? I, nor Muskie in Dayton, had anything to do with that conversation. You're just making shit up now. Lazy...

[D-West & PO-Z]

What the hell are you talking about? I, nor Muskie in Dayton, had anything to do with that conversation. You're just making shit up now. Lazy...

Reading is hard.

[XU_Lou]

Reading is hard.

Yea, you should try it some time. Maybe come out of your NPR bubble once in awhile and maybe you'll learn something...

[XUBison]

We literally had a poster compare ticket takers at the next Xavier game to Nazi soldiers yet Lou, XUband-whatever his name, and Muskie in Dayton are calling out people who take the approach of “eh, not a huge deal, show one or the other or watch from home.” I have no issue with someone who refuses to show one or the other and decides they’d rather watch at home. Totally your choice. I’d prefer to see the games in person but if you don’t no problem.

I totally have an issue with people who compare this to Nazi Germany and people who are going to hassle the people at the gate just doing their jobs.

What is this thing about people hassling workers? I’ve never seen this happen anywhere, not once. But you’re worked up over something you’re projecting to happen in the future as though it’s already happened. Maybe too much time on Twitter?

I still don’t understand what vax and test cards have to do with being able to play basketball games?

Good for you for being outraged by Nazis. You’re a real hero.

[D-West & PO-Z]

What is this thing about people hassling workers? I’ve never seen this happen anywhere, not once. But you’re worked up over something you’re projecting to happen in the future as though it’s already happened. Maybe too much time on Twitter?

I still don’t understand what vax and test cards have to do with being able to play basketball games?

Good for you for being outraged by Nazis. You’re a real hero.

Ha, you've never seen people giving normal workers who have to enforce the rules of their organization a hard time in this almost 2 years of COVID?

And for the record, the only reason I brought up the possibility of people being assholes to the workers was when I was responding to someone's post who was questioning who would want the job of checking because there was going to be a lot of unhappy people. All I said was anyone who hassles these people just doing their job is a grade A asshole. That was followed by a post by someone telling me hassling these people was not only not wrong but the right thing to do as they are just like Nazi soldiers.

[XUBison]

Swore you said it’s one thing to compare exposure on where you make a living vs attending a bball game..just pointing out there are xavier employees making a living working those games

I suppose you’re right. X obviously can’t think it’s covering its ass with regards to its staff by surrounding them with 10K vaccinated people, when everyone with a pulse knows how easily the virus is moving through vaccinated people. Those workers may have a heck of a case when all is said and done.

[Strange Brew]

Ha, you've never seen people giving normal workers who have to enforce the rules of their organization a hard time in this almost 2 years of COVID?

And for the record, the only reason I brought up the possibility of people being assholes to the workers was when I was responding to someone's post who was questioning who would want the job of checking because there was going to be a lot of unhappy people. All I said was anyone who hassles these people just doing their job is a grade A asshole. That was followed by a post by someone telling me hassling these people was not only not wrong but the right thing to do as they are just like Nazi soldiers.

Nm. Continue.

Naw, so do you honestly believe that everyone showing their vax papers and wearing masks will pose a significant benefit that outweighs the hassle caused to those who paid, in advance, without the ability to get a refund, to attend? It would be a lot more efficient to have everyone who is vaxxed get a free vax identifier (like a pin or something simple) to wear in public. Don’t you think?

[X-band '01]

Congratulations on your 5 posts on a row. I believe the previous record was 4 (held by our very own XU_Lou).

Only 5? Snipe would have written The Politics of Churlishness in 10 posts by now.

[X-band '01]

We literally had a poster compare ticket takers at the next Xavier game to Nazi soldiers yet Lou, XUband-whatever his name, and Muskie in Dayton are calling out people who take the approach of “eh, not a huge deal, show one or the other or watch from home.” I have no issue with someone who refuses to show one or the other and decides they’d rather watch at home. Totally your choice. I’d prefer to see the games in person but if you don’t no problem.

I totally have an issue with people who compare this to Nazi Germany and people who are going to hassle the people at the gate just doing their jobs.


https://youtu.be/59-hQt4IhY0

[XUGRAD80]

^^^Your statement is incorrect. Anyone who enforces this type policy is an enabler of the true grade a asshole which is anyone who made this policy happen. Were the people who pushed back or fought low level nazi soldiers who were just “doing their job” grade a assholes? No. They weren’t. Anyone on that side of the new policy is the problem whether they were creating it or enforcing it.

I’ll also say anyone who is against the policy but willing to follow it just to watch basketball is also part of the problem. If you’re against it, don’t just say so on a message board. This who just stand by and shrug at something are just as much part of the problem as those who are making the policy. Say it on a message board. Say it with your wallet. Say it with your empty seats and pulled donations. I’m by no means the biggest donor at Xavier and never will be. But I know the amount I donate and pay to the athletic department covers the costs of multiple student athletes expenses each year in terms of food travel etc. I’ll be pulling my donations moving forward until this type of policy isn’t put in place. If people who claim to be against the policy actually did something about it the athletic department would realize a policy like this will cripple them and realize they shouldn’t make absolutely ridiculous policies that not only don’t make any sense but are akin to nazi germany.

It was actually this ^^^clown that brought the Nazi reference into the conversation. I don’t think he has posted since. Just a drive by posting so to speak. Others have their own opinions to post.

When I was a student at X way back in the late 70’s, students could get into games by just showing a student ID. After I graduated I used to walk-in with students and just flash my drivers license, as it was similar to a student ID. I’ve a feeling that the checking of Vax Cards will be similarly handled. Nobody is going to take the time to look at them closely, let alone remember or record any important personal information. In addition, if it’s like elsewhere, they will probably have surgical type masks for people to put on when entering on tables outside. Most likely, people who have forgotten their own will put them on, walk to their seats, and remove them for the rest of the evening. I don’t expect to see any mask police walking around and forcing people to keep them on.

It’s a minor annoyance, nothing more. It’s not socialism, or authoritarianism, or any of the other isms. It’s people just trying to do the best they can to bring this whole thing to an end. Some of them mean well, but really don’t know what more to do. They are groping their way through this thing the same as all of the rest of us. Mistakes will be made. Unnecessary rules and regulations will be temporarily put into effect by well meaning people at Xavier and elsewhere. If we had a magic bullet, we would have used it already. Nobody going to an X game is going to be lined up and jabbed with a needle or made to give away important personal information. Why not cut them a little bit of a break?

Relax, there are worse tragedies in this world than missing a Xavier BB game in person.

[STL_XUfan]

I don’t see how it’s anyone’s business whether someone else has been vaccinated, and I can’t believe how many seem to think this is normal or no big deal.

Probably because it is normal. I would assume a large amount of us on this board went to Xavier, and depending on when you went, part of the enrollment requirement was to provide proof of numerous vaccines.

Further, if it is actually a privacy concern for you, they provide you with an alternative of showing a negative test.

[Xville]

Missed what? My point was simply that the policies are not about covering their asses. And they’re certainly not about protecting Cintas workers.

If you don’t think this, then why do you think they are implementing them? Imo it Is most certainly about covering their asses at this point. If someone catches Covid from the game, they can point to the policies they put in place. Now we can argue until we are blue in the face, if those policies do anything, but legally with where things are right now, x would be in a far better position than no policy at all.

Next game I’m going to is in a few weeks and I think it’s a 50/50 shot on whether these policies are still in place. To me, this is a nothing burger, to others I guess it’s the absolute worst thing in the world and I’ll never understand that considering what real life can hit ya with. I guess I should take that into account when pissing and whining about Steele:)

[X-man]

Nm. Continue.

Naw, so do you honestly believe that everyone showing their vax papers and wearing masks will pose a significant benefit that outweighs the hassle caused to those who paid, in advance, without the ability to get a refund, to attend? It would be a lot more efficient to have everyone who is vaxxed get a free vax identifier (like a pin or something simple) to wear in public. Don’t you think?

Are you certain that this is true?

[XUBANDGRAD]

Are you certain that this is true?

It’s absolutely true. Your options are sell on the secondary market or get a credit toward next year renewal.

[Final4]

It’s absolutely true. Your options are sell on the secondary market or get a credit toward next year renewal.

I know you indicated in an earlier post that you would not be renewing your tickets for next season. What are you doing with your tickets for the balance of this year? I’ll take them off your hands if they’re good seats.

[X-man]

It’s absolutely true. Your options are sell on the secondary market or get a credit toward next year renewal.

Have you contacted Athletics to verify that you don't have the option to surrender your tickets for a refund? I'd be willing to bet that they would refund your tickets since you are giving up your seat contract.

[markchal]

thank god we're back to playing games today

[XUBANDGRAD]

Have you contacted Athletics to verify that you don't have the option to surrender your tickets for a refund? I'd be willing to bet that they would refund your tickets since you are giving up your seat contract.

There is no option for refund even after I indicated I would not be renewing next year.

[Xville]

thank god we're back to playing games today

Amen! Now we can start complaining about things that matter like steeles schemes and lineup decisions.

[ThrowDownDBrown]

Man do we have some pathetic losers on here. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[drudy23]

Imagine if we lose tonight - covid's fault all over the place.

[kxblue]

Id imagine we are all fairly like-minded with similar backgrounds (Catholic, Midwestern, educated mostly at Xavier) and yet there is a ton of animosity and hatred on all sides

Safe to say at this point if we cant be civil and have respect for one another, given how similar we are, America is def screwed

[XUBANDGRAD]

Id imagine we are all fairly like-minded with similar backgrounds (Catholic, Midwestern, educated mostly at Xavier) and yet there is a ton of animosity and hatred on all sides

Safe to say at this point if we cant be civil and have respect for one another, given how similar we are, America is def screwed

Well when you have a sitting president who is making life hard on those who don’t want to be forced to take a medical therapy, threatening their livelihoods by instituting an (unconstitutional) mandate on their employers I mean yeah, gonna be some animosity. This is the first time in history people who don’t take a therapy are being blamed for the therapy’s ineffectiveness. It’s a joke. Couple that with the further divide on issues like BLM Riots vs. Jan. 6, cops vs. social justice, etc. and you have a massive gap that keeps widening.

[XUGRAD80]

Well when you have a sitting president who is making life hard on those who don’t want to be forced to take a medical therapy, threatening their livelihoods by instituting an (unconstitutional) mandate on their employers I mean yeah, gonna be some animosity. This is the first time in history people who don’t take a therapy are being blamed for the therapy’s ineffectiveness. It’s a joke. Couple that with the further divide on issues like BLM Riots vs. Jan. 6, cops vs. social justice, etc. and you have a massive gap that keeps widening.

So why don’t you save all that for the Political area and not bring it into the BASKETBALL area?

[94GRAD]

Are vax cards required to get into Dana's?

No

[kxblue]

Well when you have a sitting president who is making life hard on those who donÂ’t want to be forced to take a medical therapy, threatening their livelihoods by instituting an (unconstitutional) mandate on their employers I mean yeah, gonna be some animosity. This is the first time in history people who donÂ’t take a therapy are being blamed for the therapyÂ’s ineffectiveness. ItÂ’s a joke. Couple that with the further divide on issues like BLM Riots vs. Jan. 6, cops vs. social justice, etc. and you have a massive gap that keeps widening.

Look there are a bunch of issues here:

1) Xavier is a private institution as far as i know. They have rights just like you have rights. The same way the supreme court ruled the baker in Colorado didnt have to make a wedding cake for a gay couple, Xavier doesnt have to let anyone in who isnt vaccinated if it doesnt want to. If you dont like it, write them a letter or dont donate but at the end of the day its their choice. Fortunately we also have a supreme court who will decide whether the federal mandate is unconstitutional. But either way Xavier is private and they can do what they want.

2) I dont see how any of this prevents us from disagreeing with discussion and compromise. Im not saying either side is right and quite frankly i could really care less at this point, but i do think its in my personal interest that society continues to function (i am generally well-off luckily, i have 2 young kids, and i actually enjoy life). So this whole, get off my lawn, burn down society (on both sides) is ridiculous and im sure will eventually lead to violence. I find that pretty shitty as someone whose quality of life is pretty high. And given the number of people here who can afford to go to games, i would argue many of us are in the same boat and would be well served to live in a peaceful, respectful society. This even ignores that most of us are likely Catholic, which would reinforce that moral code.

[D-West & PO-Z]

https://youtu.be/59-hQt4IhY0

Not you! The other guy!

[XUBANDGRAD]

Look there are a bunch of issues here:

1) Xavier is a private institution as far as i know. They have rights just like you have rights. The same way the supreme court ruled the baker in Colorado didnt have to make a wedding cake for a gay couple, Xavier doesnt have to let anyone in who isnt vaccinated if it doesnt want to. If you dont like it, write them a letter or dont donate but at the end of the day its their choice. Fortunately we also have a supreme court who will decide whether the federal mandate is unconstitutional. But either way Xavier is private and they can do what they want.

2) I dont see how any of this prevents us from disagreeing with discussion and compromise. Im not saying either side is right and quite frankly i could really care less at this point, but i do think its in my personal interest that society continues to function (i am generally well-off luckily, i have 2 young kids, and i actually enjoy life). So this whole, get off my lawn, burn down society (on both sides) is ridiculous and im sure will eventually lead to violence. I find that pretty shitty as someone whose quality of life is pretty high. And given the number of people here who can afford to go to games, i would argue many of us are in the same boat and would be well served to live in a peaceful, respectful society. This even ignores that most of us are likely Catholic, which would reinforce that moral code.

I don’t disagree with literally anything you said. You and I are exactly alike according to number 2 but I have 1 kid. I also agree with number 1 which is why I chose to discontinue donating and remove X from getting a gift on my death. Liberals like to say “actions have consequences” but then go crazy when those consequences aren’t what they think is right.

[X-man]

There is no option for refund even after I indicated I would not be renewing next year.

Have you contacted Athletics and asked them directly for a refund?

[Xville]

I don’t disagree with literally anything you said. You and I are exactly alike according to number 2 but I have 1 kid. I also agree with number 1 which is why I chose to discontinue donating and remove X from getting a gift on my death. Liberals like to say “actions have consequences” but then go crazy when those consequences aren’t what they think is right.

Was with ya until your last sentence even though I don’t agree with your actions . Stereotyping an entire group of people based on their political belief however is asinine. Just so you know, just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t mean they are liberal…don’t be like lou (who by the way is in time out again and should be permanently) be better

[XUBANDGRAD]

Have you contacted Athletics and asked them directly for a refund?

Yes - they have a form letter they send regarding this issue with the two options.

[XUBison]

Probably because it is normal. I would assume a large amount of us on this board went to Xavier, and depending on when you went, part of the enrollment requirement was to provide proof of numerous vaccines.

Further, if it is actually a privacy concern for you, they provide you with an alternative of showing a negative test.

It is not normal to gain entry to a basketball game. Stop it.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Nm

[Muskie in dayton]

Once again you have trouble following a very simple thread. Calling him crazy had nothing to do with your made up quote above.

Reading is fundamental.
“You are too stupid to acknowledge my clearly correct opinion. Yet I still won’t offer a rebuttal by offering a position as to why vaccines passports are a good idea.”
- D-West&Po-Z

[stammina0721]

Simple as this. Anyone who wants a vaccination and proven lesser symptoms has gotten their shots. Anyone who hasn't has made their God given choice for themselves. If those people want to attend a basketball game it's not Xavier's responsibility to protect them. We do live in America where choice matters. If your grandmother hasn't been vaccinated and you are worried about bringing something home then she made her choice as a free adult. If she isn't vaccinated at this point then she has made a choice like every other American one way or another. I know people won't like that take but it is the honest reality.

[XUGRAD80]

Simple as this. Anyone who wants a vaccination and proven lesser symptoms has gotten their shots. Anyone who hasn't has made their God given choice for themselves. If those people want to attend a basketball game it's not Xavier's responsibility to protect them. We do live in America where choice matters. If your grandmother hasn't been vaccinated and you are worried about bringing something home then she made her choice as a free adult. If she isn't vaccinated at this point then she has made a choice like every other American one way or another. I know people won't like that take but it is the honest reality.

Now see, you’ve gotten the heart of the matter……what RESPONSIBILITIES does an event organizer have? I’ve been involved very closely in the planning and promotion of many large (several hundred in most cases, some several thousand) events. In fact, I am involved in a couple right now that will take place this winter and this summer. I’ve also looked very closely at the legal and insurance questions that are involved. I definitely think that is is a CYA action to a large degree. But I’ve no problem with that and applaud X for taking a proactive path in this way. It probably won’t stop someone from suing the University, but it should go a long way toward them getting a positive judgement in their favor, if someone does sue. Getting the shot, wearing masks, keeping distance from others are all ways that individuals work to reduce personal risk. Making such things mandatory is how X reduces LEGAL risk. Now someone is bound to bring up having the people attending signing waivers promising not to sue. BUT, courts have ruled that those waivers are often not worth the paper they are written on. They really don’t keep people from suing, however they do act as a protection against judgment because if the waiver is worded correctly people will acknowledge the risk that they are taking by attending. Still, ANY law suit is expensive to fight and the publicity is not good. Quite possibly, X has weighed the negative reactions by some ticket holders and donors against the risk of not doing anything, and come to the conclusion that a law suit would be far more expensive than the loss of some donors. When in doubt…..follow the money.

[bobbiemcgee]

Event planning must be a nightmare the last two years. Keep your head up.

[X Factor]

With all of the information coming out (most of which we already knew or suspected), this decision by Xavier really is a stupid one.

I mean, nurses, in California, are now allowed to work while Covid positive (provided they aren't showing any symptoms).

The CDC director just said 75% of all Covid deaths were from people with AT LEAST 4 comorbidities. She also said information will be forthcoming about how many of the 836,000 deaths linked to Covid are from Covid or with Covid.

In New York, according to state hospital admissions for Covid, 57% of people were admitted because of or complications from Covid, and 43% were admitted for other reasons (and tested positive once admitted). So, break a leg and go to the hospital, then test positive for Covid, you were counted as having been admitted for Covid even if you were asymptomatic.

[xuphan]

With all of the information coming out (most of which we already knew or suspected), this decision by Xavier really is a stupid one.

I mean, nurses, in California, are now allowed to work while Covid positive (provided they aren't showing any symptoms).

The CDC director just said 75% of all Covid deaths were from people with AT LEAST 4 comorbidities. She also said information will be forthcoming about how many of the 836,000 deaths linked to Covid are from Covid or with Covid.

In New York, according to state hospital admissions for Covid, 57% of people were admitted because of or complications from Covid, and 43% were admitted for other reasons (and tested positive once admitted). So, break a leg and go to the hospital, then test positive for Covid, you were counted as having been admitted for Covid even if you were asymptomatic.

You have to be vaccinated? You can’t bring a negative Covid test result to the game tomorrow?

[bleedXblue]

You have to be vaccinated? You can’t bring a negative Covid test result to the game tomorrow?

pretty sure you can...I just don't know how recent it needs to be.

[drudy23]

When I’m doubt…..follow the money.

No one is in doubt - this was obvious the second they sent out the press release. It's the only logical conclusion, as all of the "keep you safe" BS they put in the PR was completely illogical.

Just shoot me straight.

[D-West & PO-Z]

pretty sure you can...I just don't know how recent it needs to be.

72 hours I believe.

[XUGRAD80]

No one is in doubt - this was obvious the second they sent out the press release.

Just shoot me straight.

Would be nice if they did, but from a LEGAL standpoint I’m gonna guess that the lawyers are not going to let that happen. In a way, I’m OK with that because I don’t want to see X have to go through expensive lawsuits that often don’t fix anything and only put money into lawyers pockets. I applaud that they are being proactive and are not waiting until something does happen to enact a policy that means nothing. They are protecting the university’s rear end and it’s assets. Doesn’t mean I have to like it personally, but I certainly understand why they are doing it. If it pisses off a few people, so what? IMO that’s better than not pissing anyone off by a policy such as this and then having a class action suit possibly placed against them for negligence. It’s a business decision.

We need to view X (and any other school, especially private ones) as a business. As a business they have a responsibility to the bottom line and to protecting their assets. Enacting policies that limit their own legal risk are necessary and important. I see little difference (from that standpoint) between the new policy requiring vaccinations or negative tests at basketball games, and any other policy enacted in the name of “safety”. These rules don’t matter to people that don’t want to follow them and may not stop anything from happening, but in both cases they reduce the legal risk of lawsuits that the university might face if something does happen.

The large events that I and the club I head up put on, are motorcycle related. We require anyone attending them to sign a waiver. It won’t stop anyone from doing stupid things, but it does give us (the club and it’s officers) a certain level of legal protection. We can still be sued, but lawyers tell us (and case histories back it up) that a carefully worded waiver signed by the person suing, will protect us from judgements against us…..as long as we are careful not to be negligent in our responsibilities to host safe events. X is doing its best to put on a safe event. Personally, I feel that anyone that would right now host a large indoor event and would not require the things that X is requiring, could be considered negligent in their responsibilities. But even if they require them and don’t enforce those requirements, they could still be considered negligent. In fact, if they make them a part of the requirements to attend and therefore are acknowledging that they are necessary, and then don’t enforce it…..they could be possibly even more likely to be sued and found negligent.

[xu82]

In Atlanta many (most?) businesses have large signs at the entry cleary stating that GA law prohibits anyone from filing any type of legal claim against any entity if you happen to come down with Covid. WOW! Something that actually makes sense!

[markchal]

The CDC director just said 75% of all Covid deaths were from people with AT LEAST 4 comorbidities. She also said information will be forthcoming about how many of the 836,000 deaths linked to Covid are from Covid or with Covid.


75 percent deaths of vaccinated people...pretty major thing to leave out when you're trying to complain about inaccurate info!

[GetUp5]

72 hours I believe.

What does this mean? Assuming they don't want you to bring the actual physical test. A screenshot of a negative at home test will work?