Game Thread: Xavier v Covid University (12/28/2021)

[paulxu]

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THE MATCHUP

NO. 23/24 XAVIER UNIVERSITY MUSKETEERS (11-2, 1-1 BIG EAST)
AT NO.1 COVID OMICRONS (37-0, 8-0 BIG EAST)
TUESDAY, DEC. 28, 2021 AT 7:00 P.M. ET
University Medical Center (450) IN Anywhere, USA.

TV, RADIO & LIVE STATS

Television: FS1 with play by-play from Brandon Gaudin and analysis from Jim Jackson.
Radio: 55KRC-AM with play-by-play from Xavier Hall of Famer Joe Sunderman ('79) and analysis from XU all-time leading scorer and Hall of Famer Byron Larkin ('88). XU broadcast is also available on Sirius XM (387) and the SXM App. (977).
Live Stats: Media stats at Statbroadcast.com and fan stats at GoXavier.com.

[drudy23]

COVID will remain undefeated.

Question - do players around college basketball get tested every day/week regardless of symptoms? Why on earth are we still doing this?

[Xavier]

I think I saw it depends on the university but since Xavier is fully vaccinated they will only test if showing symptoms. I would be surprised if X misses more than a game this year due to there own team having covid issues.

Other schools that aren’t fully vaccinated do test daily (at least those who aren’t vaccinated I believe) and that’s where the asymptomatic tests are causing the issues. From what I have seen at least which is why I think X will be in good shape. They really won’t have asymptomatic shut down

[bleedXblue]

This is fuc*&ing stupidity. What is the end game? The vaccine(s) are to a very large degree preventing serious illness. Most of us will get CV at some point. If you haven't been vaccinated at this point, that is your personal choice. It is time to move on.

[noteggs]

What the hell, please tell me we’re not relegated to post in the covid and politics thread after these cancellations. Oh well guess we could talk about something new like the mistakes Travis has made…

Sorry it was hanging out there.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Two kids just died from the flu, nothing is shut down, there are no daily briefings of the flu even though the flu is killing people daily. This is so fn stupid at this point. We did everything we were told to do. Grow some FN balls and stop with this non sense. Most of us have been vaccinated 3 times, what else do you want from us. F YOU!!!!

[D-West & PO-Z]

COVID will remain undefeated.

Question - do players around college basketball get tested every day/week regardless of symptoms? Why on earth are we still doing this?

It is interesting, because Steele told Adam Baum that Xavier is only testing players if they have symptoms. If someone has symptoms they test and if positive they isolate and everyone else goes on their way.

So one of a few things must be the case:

1. Steele oversimplified it and didn't really explain it properly to Baum and Xavier tests everyone symptoms or not if someone was positive.

2. Xavier truly does not test asymptomatic players regardless of if someone does test positive. But other teams in the BE for some reason do test asymptomatic players.

3. No one is testing asymptomatic players and everyone who is upset about that is upset for no reason because it isnt happening.


My guess is Steele didn't explain it quite fully. Or #3. #2 would make no sense.

[JTG]

It is interesting, because Steele told Adam Baum that Xavier is only testing players if they have symptoms. If someone has symptoms they test and if positive they isolate and everyone else goes on their way.

So one of a few things must be the case:

1. Steele oversimplified it and didn't really explain it properly to Baum and Xavier tests everyone symptoms or not if someone was positive.

2. Xavier truly does not test asymptomatic players regardless of if someone does test positive. But other teams in the BE for some reason do test asymptomatic players.

3. No one is testing asymptomatic players and everyone who is upset about that is upset for no reason because it isnt happening.


My guess is Steele didn't explain it quite fully. Or #3. #2 would make no sense.

Jesus H Christ : So now in addition to in game coaching decisions, Steele can't explain Covid protocols. Do we have to overanalyze everything ?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Jesus H Christ : So now in addition to in game coaching decisions, Steele can't explain Covid protocols. Do we have to overanalyze everything ?

I'm confused by your post. Are you implying I am overanalyzing something?

All I am saying is that there is a chance that all the bitching about testing asymptomatic players is for nothing because it isn't happening. If what Steele said is correct it for sure isn't happening at Xavier, why would other BE schools put themselves at that disadvantage? I guess if they aren't all vaccinated (like Seton Hall) the rules might be different, but I bet the majority of the teams are fully vaccinated.

[basket]

Two kids just died from the flu, nothing is shut down, there are no daily briefings of the flu even though the flu is killing people daily. This is so fn stupid at this point. We did everything we were told to do. Grow some FN balls and stop with this non sense. Most of us have been vaccinated 3 times, what else do you want from us. F YOU!!!!

Jut curious OTR has over 800,000 people died from the flu in 1 year JUST in the USA?

[whopper]

It will give Zach another week and a half to get healthy. I see him playing at 85% tops to this point. Maybe a little improvement with Stanley too who also looks 85%. I am so sad as i am in Cincinatti from Conn and has tickets to the game which i will now leave for my oldest daughter/husband to use when rescheduled. Going to Spider Man instead

[bleedXblue]

Jut curious OTR has over 800,000 people died from the flu in 1 year JUST in the USA?

Almost 80% of the deaths are people over 65. You do know how this game is being played don't you?

[xukeith]

I heard some "expert" say yesterday that this virus variant will likely die out in 2nd week of January. Highly contagious but mild symptoms.

It is a freaking cold. Nobody is dying (in USA) with therapeutics and vaccines available.
I bet some BE presidents and/or commissioner is likely an alarmist and enjoys handing out closures.

[Final4]

Almost 80% of the deaths are people over 65. You do know how this game is being played don't you?

What the hell difference does that make? What if 80% were under the age of 21, or female, or African American? Then it’s cause for concern? But if you’re over 65 you’re a dispensable demographic?

[STL_XUfan]

I heard some "expert" say yesterday that this virus variant will likely die out in 2nd week of January. Highly contagious but mild symptoms.

It is a freaking cold. Nobody is dying (in USA) with therapeutics and vaccines available.
I bet some BE presidents and/or commissioner is likely an alarmist and enjoys handing out closures.

The current 7 day average is just shy of 1,500 a day. Further, just because you don’t die, doesn’t mean there are not long term consequences. I am all for lessening or removing quarantine time for vaccinated players with exposure, but it seems like some people are arguing that Covid positive players should be allowed to play.

There will always be some risk, but just throwing unpaid athletes out there to guard a player we know is positive for Covid seems like an wholly unnecessary risk.

[D-West & PO-Z]

The current 7 day average is just shy of 1,500 a day. Further, just because you don’t die, doesn’t mean there are not long term consequences. I am all for lessening or removing quarantine time for vaccinated players with exposure, but it seems like some people are arguing that Covid positive players should be allowed to play.

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At risk of contributing to this turning into another COVID thread........Right on cue:

https://nypost.com/2021/12/27/covid-virus-can-spread-to-heart-brain-and-survive-for-months/

[Strange Brew]

At risk of contributing to this turning into another COVID thread........Right on cue:

https://nypost.com/2021/12/27/covid-virus-can-spread-to-heart-brain-and-survive-for-months/

All the more reason to find to origin a prosecute anyone who funded it’s creation.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Jut curious OTR has over 800,000 people died from the flu in 1 year JUST in the USA?

To answer your question typically 30-50k die a year from the flu in the US. That's with a vaccine that is 40% effective. So how many people are dying from omicron with the vaccine? Your 800k number isn't relevant anymore bc we have a vax now. We need to learn to live with this. Omicron is very contagious but not going to kill you if your Vaccinated. Hell, even our brain dead POTUS said that the other day. We are worried about kids playing with COVID but nobody is checking the 10k fans walking through the door. So, who are the rules protecting? I'm not anti vax or a right wing nut job. I have had 3 shots, I work at the hospital and known people who have died. This shit was real!!! Was was was . If you're not vaccinated at this point then that's on you, but for FN sake, the rest of us want to move on.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Zack needs more reps not more rest. This long break is what hurt Xavier last year when they were on a run. There is nothing good about this. Stanley is out of the picture at this point. He is mop up duty at best. UConn was scared and it's time they pay.

[D-West & PO-Z]

The only saving grace compared to last year is we aren't (so far) the ones with covid, meaning our team continues to workout and practice together. Still not good for this long a layoff but better than last year at least.

[xudash]

The only saving grace compared to last year is we aren't (so far) the ones with covid, meaning our team continues to workout and practice together. Still not good for this long a layoff but better than last year at least.

That's a good point.

[xukeith]

At risk of contributing to this turning into another COVID thread........Right on cue:

https://nypost.com/2021/12/27/covid-virus-can-spread-to-heart-brain-and-survive-for-months/

They studied 44 people. Seems like a small sample size. Only 6 / 44 of which found there was Covid in the brain.

[boozehound]

They studied 44 people. Seems like a small sample size. Only 6 / 44 of which found there was Covid in the brain.

6 of 44 seems like a fairly high percentage to me. I agree that the sample size is small though.

[94GRAD]

6 of 44 seems like a fairly high percentage to me. I agree that the sample size is small though.

It's a turrible 3 point shooting percentage(13.6%), not sure about Covid in the brain

[boozehound]

It's a turrible 3 point shooting percentage(13.6%), not sure about Covid in the brain

I don’t know. We green light guys with worse shooting percentages. See Hunter, Jerome.

[94GRAD]

I don’t know. We green light guys with worse shooting percentages. See Hunter, Jerome.

He's Seth Curry compared to covid, 7-38(18.4%) :spaz:

[profson]

What the hell difference does that make? What if 80% were under the age of 21, or female, or African American? Then it’s cause for concern? But if you’re over 65 you’re a dispensable demographic?

The difference is you focus on the affected population and don't destroy the economy or the lives of those barely affected. E.g., Cuomo and Murphy put nursing homes at risk, but DeSantis did the opposite.

[D-West & PO-Z]

They studied 44 people. Seems like a small sample size. Only 6 / 44 of which found there was Covid in the brain.

I didn't mean it to say anything about it being the end all be all. However there could potentially be very real consequences to being infected with covid later on down the line. Probably not for most people but for some. Dying from covid isn't the only negative outcome.

[Strange Brew]

I didn't mean it to say anything about it being the end all be all. However there could potentially be very real consequences to being infected with covid later on down the line. Probably not for most people but for some. Dying from covid isn't the only negative outcome.

Same could be said for the vax with the heart problems popping up.

And I’ll wait for the ban hammer…

[JTG]

NFL just changed their quarantine protocol to 5 days. Big East should do the same. And can someone explain how Georgetown can cancel a game 8 days in advance ? Come on Val, take charge and straighten this cancellation policy out. Do not just leave it up to each team. That's just asking for shenanigans.

[XU '11]

It is interesting, because Steele told Adam Baum that Xavier is only testing players if they have symptoms. If someone has symptoms they test and if positive they isolate and everyone else goes on their way.

So one of a few things must be the case:

1. Steele oversimplified it and didn't really explain it properly to Baum and Xavier tests everyone symptoms or not if someone was positive.

2. Xavier truly does not test asymptomatic players regardless of if someone does test positive. But other teams in the BE for some reason do test asymptomatic players.

3. No one is testing asymptomatic players and everyone who is upset about that is upset for no reason because it isnt happening.


My guess is Steele didn't explain it quite fully. Or #3. #2 would make no sense.

I do not know what Xavier's protocol is, but I am familiar with several other schools.

One athletics department in the northeast (1) has a vaccine requirement, (2) requires masks at all times indoors, and (3) is STILL requiring all athletes to get COVID tested twice per week. Unsurprisingly, they are getting a LOT of asymptomatic positive tests.

Meanwhile, the general NCAA recommendation is to only test people with symptoms. If somebody has been contact traced, they wear a mask for the next 5 days but continue regular activity, and then get tested. Or at least that was the pre-Omicron recommendation. Not sure if that has been updated. But the NCAA recommendations are just that. Some universities are being WAY more cautious.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I do not know what Xavier's protocol is, but I am familiar with several other schools.

One athletics department in the northeast (1) has a vaccine requirement, (2) requires masks at all times indoors, and (3) is STILL requiring all athletes to get COVID tested twice per week. Unsurprisingly, they are getting a LOT of asymptomatic positive tests.

Meanwhile, the general NCAA recommendation is to only test people with symptoms. If somebody has been contact traced, they wear a mask for the next 5 days but continue regular activity, and then get tested. Or at least that was the pre-Omicron recommendation. Not sure if that has been updated. But the NCAA recommendations are just that. Some universities are being WAY more cautious.

If the BE schools didn't all agree on one policy that was horrible leadership by Val Ackerman. Unless different state requirements got in the way?

[Olsingledigit]

Unfortunately our next game back is at Butler. Not a good team to play off of the break.

[X-band '01]

If last year taught us anything, Butler is perfectly fine to play after one long break. Just not a 2nd.

[SemajParlor]

At least kids will be back for the (hopeful) rescheduled Uconn game

[xukeith]

With this variant being so contagious, everyone or a high % of people will catch covid . Then herd immunity takes place.

We can go on with life without freaking out.

[boozehound]

With this variant being so contagious, everyone or a high % of people will catch covid . Then herd immunity takes place.

We can go on with life without freaking out.

There is also now pretty solid evidence it is significantly less severe, and much more of an upper respiratory infection for most. I think we are looking at a really disruptive 2-4 weeks followed by a sharp decline.

Combine that with vaccines and I don’t think we will see much of a return to strict protocols. Even Fauci is speaking out publicly in support of shortening the isolation period.

[basket]

To answer your question typically 30-50k die a year from the flu in the US. That's with a vaccine that is 40% effective. So how many people are dying from omicron with the vaccine? Your 800k number isn't relevant anymore bc we have a vax now. We need to learn to live with this. Omicron is very contagious but not going to kill you if your Vaccinated. Hell, even our brain dead POTUS said that the other day. We are worried about kids playing with COVID but nobody is checking the 10k fans walking through the door. So, who are the rules protecting? I'm not anti vax or a right wing nut job. I have had 3 shots, I work at the hospital and known people who have died. This shit was real!!! Was was was . If you're not vaccinated at this point then that's on you, but for FN sake, the rest of us want to move on.

Brain dead POTUS, REALLY? So I guess the delusional Trump isnt when he said take Bleach to get rid of COVID? Hmmm? OTR, I got a GREAT idea why dont you and the rest of the delusional people in this country live on your own little island so that you can"get on with life".

[xavierj]

Brain dead POTUS, REALLY? So I guess the delusional Trump isnt when he said take Bleach to get rid of COVID? Hmmm? OTR, I got a GREAT idea why dont you and the rest of the delusional people in this country live on your own little island so that you can"get on with life".

Keeping politics out of this, I agree that we need to move on and stop the non sense. Most of the country has. People are back to work, high schools all over the country are playing basketball games with fans and no mandates to get in games, restaurants are Picking back up, people are going out to bars and enjoying time with friends, yet we can’t play college basketball games. This is nuts.

Then you have UCLA do all the things around bowl week, fans travel and enjoy Christmas week doing normal stuff, then UCLA pulls out of the game three hours before kick. Come on. Grow a pair and move on. Get vaccinated and if not that’s on the unvaccinated person, but move on.

[xukeith]

I think the majority of US citizens have either had covid or are fully vaccinated.
With this omicron variant majority of people catch it without having any symptoms.

It will burn out at around 2nd week in January.

[Strange Brew]

Brain dead POTUS, REALLY? So I guess the delusional Trump isnt when he said take Bleach to get rid of COVID? Hmmm? OTR, I got a GREAT idea why dont you and the rest of the delusional people in this country live on your own little island so that you can"get on with life".

Or you and the delusional COVID Karen’s can self quarantine for as long as you need on your “own little island” while the rest of us will get on with life.

[kxblue]

Yikes, I’m surprised this thread hasn’t been cleaned out a bit. Guess the mods are on covid break too.

Hate to change the subject, but what is Xavier’s covid policy? It seems like Omicron is spreading quickly from northeast to rest of the country. X players get tested even if vaccinated? Could be a very long break if so.

[smileyy]

I think the majority of US citizens have either had covid or are fully vaccinated.
With this omicron variant majority of people catch it without having any symptoms.

It will burn out at around 2nd week in January.

I think that will be true once Omicron finishes whatever it is it is going to do.

[xu82]

I think that will be true once Omicron finishes whatever it is it is going to do.

If you haven’t had it, you probably will. If you have had it, be ready to get it again.

Our son and DIL got it on a trip to Florida for Christmas with her family. She got sick upon returning. We had one last test and she was positive. Got more tests, and he was positive too, then went out for a two mile run. Felt just fine, so why not?

[xukeith]

I got it 2 weeks before Christmas. Sore throat. 4 days with annoying throat then felt fine.