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D-West & PO-Z
12-27-2021, 01:51 PM
Game next week against Georgetown postponed due to COVID issues for Georgetown.
paulxu
12-27-2021, 02:04 PM
That game is 8 days away. They must have a lot of players in 10 day quarantine or something to know that far out.
noteggs
12-27-2021, 02:07 PM
That’s on top of a cancellation last week. It’ll be 15 days at that point
drudy23
12-27-2021, 02:19 PM
How is a game that far out canceled? Current protocols shouldn't last that long. This is going to turn into last year if this is the reality. This is stupid.
Stadiums are packed - these protocols are doing absolutely nothing to control spread. People have moved on.
paulxu
12-27-2021, 02:37 PM
Maybe they're afraid to play us? Doesn't cost them anything to bail.
bjf123
12-27-2021, 02:47 PM
Maybe there are additional protocols in DC they have to live by?
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nuts4xu
12-27-2021, 03:20 PM
This makes no sense. If they are able to cancel games 8 days away, they should leave the forfeit policy in place. These kids aren't all vaccinated? How is that possible?
Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
12-27-2021, 03:40 PM
How is a game that far out canceled? Current protocols shouldn't last that long. This is going to turn into last year if this is the reality. This is stupid.
Stadiums are packed - these protocols are doing absolutely nothing to control spread. People have moved on.
Agree. This has become laughable.
XUBison
12-27-2021, 06:00 PM
Everyone at Georgetown has been vaccinated, per the universities mandate. They have now even mandated that all elligible students, faculty, and staff receive the booster before returning to school in January. Anyone returning to campus after Thanksgiving had to be tested. Just prior to the Christmas break, they ended all in-person dining, canceled all social gatherings, moved to virtual final exams, and closed the common study areas. The Covid response at Georgetown is as over the top as one could possibly imagine.
CDC announced today New guidelines. Down to 5 days from 10.
D-West & PO-Z
12-27-2021, 08:26 PM
Everyone at Georgetown has been vaccinated, per the universities mandate. They have now even mandated that all elligible students, faculty, and staff receive the booster before returning to school in January. Anyone returning to campus after Thanksgiving had to be tested. Just prior to the Christmas break, they ended all in-person dining, canceled all social gatherings, moved to virtual final exams, and closed the common study areas. The Covid response at Georgetown is as over the top as one could possibly imagine.
Seton Hall had a mandate for students as well yet has several unvaccinated basketball players from what I understand.
noteggs
12-27-2021, 08:50 PM
CDC announced today New guidelines. Down to 5 days from 10.
Good point. However, they are still suggesting people to mask for five days after the initial five days. Might be slight problem to play basketball with a mask. Unfortunately as we have witnessed, mask and athletics are a dangerous combination for a few reasons.
GoMuskies
12-27-2021, 09:16 PM
Boston U spent all last season playing in masks. As did all their opponents who came to play them at home.
Boston U also played Holy Cross six times last year. That sounds like a real blast.
Boston U spent all last season playing in masks. As did all their opponents who came to play them at home.
Boston U also played Holy Cross six times last year. That sounds like a real blast.
That sounds like a couple Catholic middle schools trying to make it work.
noteggs
12-27-2021, 10:25 PM
Let the cluster f begin! Oh that’s right, it’s already started…
XUBison
12-28-2021, 02:25 AM
Seton Hall had a mandate for students as well yet has several unvaccinated basketball players from what I understand.
No idea what’s happening at Seton Hall, but no one is allowed near Georgetown who isn’t vaccinated. On second thought, I guess I’ve heard that Seton Hall might be lax in their enforcement, but I assure you that is not the case at Georgetown.
No idea what’s happening at Seton Hall, but no one is allowed near Georgetown who isn’t vaccinated. On second thought, I guess I’ve heard that Seton Hall might be lax in their enforcement, but I assure you that is not the case at Georgetown.
If these facts are true then A. Seton should be forced to forfeit their games if they are letting players go unvaxed, and B. Why is Georgetown allowed to cancel games 8 days in advance ? How could they possibly know who's going to be available a week from today? Is the Commish in charge or not? She didn't have any problem making DePaul forfeit a couple games. Either Vax or forfeit, or play with whatever you can put on the court. Play with what you have is pretty much what the NFL is doing. X and Butler are both without games this week due to cancellations. Maybe have them move up their game and play each other. We saw last year what not playing for long stretches did to our performance.
xavierj
12-28-2021, 08:54 AM
If these facts are true then A. Seton should be forced to forfeit their games if they are letting players go unvaxed, and B. Why is Georgetown allowed to cancel games 8 days in advance ? How could they possibly know who's going to be available a week from today? Is the Commish in charge or not? She didn't have any problem making DePaul forfeit a couple games. Either Vax or forfeit, or play with whatever you can put on the court. Play with what you have is pretty much what the NFL is doing. X and Butler are both without games this week due to cancellations. Maybe have them move up their game and play each other. We saw last year what not playing for long stretches did to our performance.
I guess other than not getting as sick, which for a 21 year old athlete probably is not much of a risk, what is the difference now of who is vaccinated in college basketball and who isn’t as far as games go? Georgetown has super strict rules, with everyone vaccinated, and they have now postponed 4 games due to themselves and Seton Hall maybe not as strict and has had three games lost but is apparently playing tomorrow night. I think it’s clear that games will get cancelled regardless of if you have been vaccinated three times or zero times. This will not go away until these conferences figure it it’s not going away and really stop some of the crazy testing. If not we will deal with this forever in college basketball.
D-West & PO-Z
12-28-2021, 09:20 AM
I think it’s clear that games will get cancelled regardless of if you have been vaccinated three times or zero times. This will not go away until these conferences figure it it’s not going away and really stop some of the crazy testing. If not we will deal with this forever in college basketball.
I have asked this in a couple other threads, but how do we know there is crazy testing (usually meaning testing asymptomatic players) going on? Steele has already said publicly they only test players with symptoms. Why would other Big East teams do otherwise? Maybe these cancellations are happening only because this many players have symptoms? Or I guess more teams could have not 100% vaccination rate like X does and have different rules to play by and be requested to test asymptomatic players if one player on the team tests positive? If that is the case bring back the forfeits imo.
The only positive to this happening to teams where they majority of their players are testing positive (as this is only as long as no one is really sick or has any longer COVID issues) is that those players wont have to test again for 90 days. That gets you basically through the season at this point.
XUBison
12-29-2021, 08:59 PM
I have asked this in a couple other threads, but how do we know there is crazy testing (usually meaning testing asymptomatic players) going on? Steele has already said publicly they only test players with symptoms. Why would other Big East teams do otherwise? Maybe these cancellations are happening only because this many players have symptoms? Or I guess more teams could have not 100% vaccination rate like X does and have different rules to play by and be requested to test asymptomatic players if one player on the team tests positive? If that is the case bring back the forfeits imo.
The only positive to this happening to teams where they majority of their players are testing positive (as this is only as long as no one is really sick or has any longer COVID issues) is that those players wont have to test again for 90 days. That gets you basically through the season at this point.
FWIW, Georgetown announced today that spring semester starting Jan 12 will be held virtually until at least Jan 31. All students, faculty, and staff must be tested immediately upon their return to campus, regardless of symptoms or vaccine status, and all eligible must have the booster upon their return. With only certain high-level exceptions, all campus events must either be moved outside or be postponed/canceled. I assume men’s basketball is one of those exceptions, but who knows?
I don’t know the specifics for how Georgetown is testing athletes. However, the university mandated all students, faculty, and staff be tested at the beginning of fall semester, randomly at the end of October due to a minor positivity increase on campus, after the return from Thanksgiving break, and they’ll do it all over again whenever they let people back for spring semester. This is something like 15K people they are testing each time, regardless of symptoms or vaccination status.
I don’t mean to drone on about Georgetown, but I have some insight. It’s important to remember these decisions are ultimately being made by academic administrators, many of whom will place a low order of priority on the Big East and its competitive landscape. For better or worse, some schools take a more flexible approach to covid, while others take a much more stringent position. There is little the Big East office can do about this— they obviously can’t dictate to the schools how they must manage their covid responses on their respective campuses. I suspect those in the BE office and the respective athletic depts believe games should be played, but these are the forces they are having to Manage. Rescheduling is great if it can be done, but I agree some sort of forfeiture standard should be incorporated if the BE office hopes to maintain any control over the situation.
The initial forfeiture rules were never designed to manage the competitive balance. It was always about pushing a social agenda to encourage vaccinations— again, for better or worse. Those calling the shots are clearly not going to live with the rules they’ve set if they don’t fit their current agenda, so it may be an exercise in futility to pay any consideration to the rules as they exist today.
bjf123
12-29-2021, 10:43 PM
Don’t forget, Georgetown is in DC, the home of “The pandemic is going to kill us all! Hide the women and children!”
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Smooth
12-30-2021, 04:58 PM
Don’t forget, Georgetown is in DC, the home of “The pandemic is going to kill us all! Hide the women and children!”
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The women are being hidden in the trunk of a legendary Xavier-message-board-poster. Well, at least some of them.
Masterofreality
12-30-2021, 10:04 PM
The women are being hidden in the trunk of a legendary Xavier-message-board-poster. Well, at least some of them.
That dude got engaged after what seems to be forever.
The Statute of Limitations finally ran out so the Authorities can’t nail him.
X-band '01
12-31-2021, 06:42 AM
That dude got engaged after what seems to be forever.
Quitter.
UCGRAD4X
01-01-2022, 07:07 AM
Hope they checked in the boot before he traded his man car for the minivan.
OTRMUSKIE
02-09-2022, 10:24 PM
Is that away Georgetown game going to be made up? We may need that game to get into the pig
Masterofreality
02-24-2022, 12:01 PM
The home game vs Georgetown is now set for 7:00pm on Saturday March 5.
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