View Full Version : Game Thread: Xavier v Oklahoma State (12/5/2021)
paulxu
12-03-2021, 08:41 PM
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THE MATCHUP
XAVIER UNIVERSITY MUSKETEERS (6-1, 0-0 BIG EAST)
OKLAHOMA STATE UNIVERSITY COWBOYS (6-2, 0-0 BIG 12)
SUNDAY, DEC. 5, 2021 AT 5 P.M. ET (4 P.M. CT)
GALLAGHER-IBA ARENA IN STILLWATER, OKLA.
TV, RADIO & LIVE STATS
Television: ESPN2 with play by-play from Mark Neely and analysis from King McClure.
Radio: 55KRC with play-by-play from Xavier Hall of Famer Joe Sunderman ('79) and analysis from Xavier all-time leading scorer and Hall of Famer Byron Larkin ('88). XU broadcast is also available on Sirius XM channel 391 and 981 on the SXM App.
Live Stats: Media stats at Statbroadcast.com and fan stats at GoXavier.com.
Mel Cooley XU'81
12-04-2021, 10:52 AM
The Game Thread posts are a great public service, Paul.
Thanks!
MADXSTER
12-04-2021, 12:56 PM
Agree. Thanks Paul
paulxu
12-04-2021, 01:18 PM
Y'all are welcome.
Truth be known, there's an ulterior motive.
One of these days I'll finally come unglued in the politics area when someone repeats Fox-inspired nonsense, causing me to go over the edge..
I'll get a time-out from MadX or AmX, and I'm trying to build points for an early release date.
Looking for a great game from the Muskies tomorrow :logo:
D-West & PO-Z
12-04-2021, 09:42 PM
X +2.5
Lloyd Braun
12-04-2021, 09:52 PM
So who has the scouting report?
Strange Brew
12-04-2021, 10:04 PM
Game preview:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/big-east-big-12-battle-xavier-musketeers-get-first-true-road-test-at-oklahoma-state/ar-AARsFm8?ocid=uxbndlbing
Looks like they’re long and play great defense.
Mel is a good guy and firmly an XU fan, but on full moons he dresses like an OSU Cowboy. Little known fact.
You’re welcome.
paulxu
12-05-2021, 07:50 AM
In case I'm still on the road while this game is being played.....Go you Mucking Fuskies !
Mel Cooley XU'81
12-05-2021, 08:43 AM
Tonight.
Waxing crescent.
2% illumination.
Go X.
X-man
12-05-2021, 11:42 AM
No love from the gamblers. Line's up to X+3.5 currently.
GIMMFD
12-05-2021, 01:21 PM
No love from the gamblers. Line's up to X+3.5 currently.
+140 ML, I hit it. Though we haven't looked like a well oiled machine by any means, Okie State lost to Wichita State the other day by 9 (Wichita State is still their typical pretty good this year it seems like), and also lost to Oakland by one, while beating Oral Roberts (who lost their best player) by one. I think they're hit or miss, they obviously don't have Cade Cunningham anymore, and don't really have an elite scorer that is gonna go off for 20 a game or anything like that, but 3 guys hovering around 10 ppg so more balanced. As a team shoot 29.6% from the three, and average around 74 ppg, I think if we have a decent day we could get a nice little road kill here.
D-West & PO-Z
12-05-2021, 01:25 PM
No love from the gamblers. Line's up to X+3.5 currently.
I got X +4 this morning.
UCGRAD4X
12-05-2021, 04:45 PM
Mel is a good guy and firmly an XU fan, but on full moons he dresses like an OSU Cowboy. Little known fact.
You’re welcome.
Tonight.
Waxing crescent.
2% illumination.
Go X.
Good thing. I do hope it's not the Naked Cowboy. Lock up your wives and daughters. Nobody wants to see that.
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 04:54 PM
Arena is EMPTY.
UCGRAD4X
12-05-2021, 04:58 PM
Does that mean we'll be able to hear you cheering on the broadcast?
Or hear you swearing when Hunter takes a 3?
Xville
12-05-2021, 05:13 PM
Steele takes miles out two minutes into the game for some unknown reason, and since nunge has gotten absolutely worked over for three baskets, shot a three, and had an offensive foul called against him.
It is shit like this makes causes me to question Steele over and over
noteggs
12-05-2021, 05:18 PM
Steele takes miles out two minutes into the game for some unknown reason, and since nunge has gotten absolutely worked over for three baskets, shot a three, and had an offensive foul called against him.
It is shit like this makes causes me to question Steele over and over
With all due respect, Nunge should be starting. Charge was BS after watching replay. Didn’t give time to turn around before defender slide underneath
SM#24
12-05-2021, 05:19 PM
See more of Miles now.
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 05:20 PM
Nate is so good.
Let’s hope MILES can stay out of foul trouble! He’s been know to pick them up in bunches.
EDIT: I’ll take the blame for that first one. But then I’m off the hook.
SM#24
12-05-2021, 05:22 PM
There's no one on OK St. Kunkel can guard.
Strange Brew
12-05-2021, 05:22 PM
Let’s hope MILES can stay out of foul trouble! He’s been know to pick them up in bunches.
There’s a tough one on him.
Xville
12-05-2021, 05:23 PM
Nate is so good.
When he is hot, he is red hot…hoping this lasts all season!
SM#24
12-05-2021, 05:23 PM
Not a bad start. Miles 3/4 from FT is good.
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 05:29 PM
Kunkel doesn't need to take fallaway contested jumpers anymore.
SM#24
12-05-2021, 05:30 PM
Kunkel doesn't need to take fallaway contested jumpers anymore.
Between a Hunter 3 or a Kunkel fade away in traffic don't know which choice is worse.
They shouldn’t show all those empty seats again. WTF?
noteggs
12-05-2021, 05:32 PM
Between a Hunter 3 or a Kunkel fade away in traffic don't know which choice is worse.
Bad is bad…toss up
Kunkel taking terrible shots and Fremantle has no business taking 3s at this point.
How about we just only allow Johnson shoot threes.
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 05:32 PM
Glad we're offensive rebounding like maniacs.
Strange Brew
12-05-2021, 05:34 PM
Free really needs to see a shot go in. Hopefully very soon.
SM#24
12-05-2021, 05:35 PM
8-1 on O boards. Nunge and Colby with 2 fouls. Need to get to half wo any more foul "trouble."
noteggs
12-05-2021, 05:35 PM
Free really needs to see a shot go in. Hopefully very soon.
Thought same
Free really needs to see a shot go in. Hopefully very soon.
Needs to get into game shape, but also really needs that confidence boost seeing a few go down.
SM#24
12-05-2021, 05:36 PM
Only 3 TO so far. Need to keep that up; they're aggressive.
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 05:38 PM
We're not great at prosperity.
This is crap. What’s up coach.
Strange Brew
12-05-2021, 05:41 PM
Only 3 TO so far. Need to keep that up; they're aggressive.
Darn it!
SM#24
12-05-2021, 05:42 PM
Bad couple sequences there. Odom needs to calm down.
xavierj
12-05-2021, 05:42 PM
Odom yikes. That’s a bad few minutes by him.
SM#24
12-05-2021, 05:42 PM
Darn it!
My bad.
noteggs
12-05-2021, 05:42 PM
Bad couple sequences there. Odom needs to calm down.
Think he needs to come out
Jehoya
12-05-2021, 05:44 PM
These announcers are atrocious…I can’t take much more of them
paulxu
12-05-2021, 05:44 PM
Probably just me. But all I notice is 5 guys on the perimeter, with an occasional screen.
Don't we have any real plays that our guys know how to run?
xudash
12-05-2021, 05:48 PM
Inbounding the ball with intelligence would be nice.
Strange Brew
12-05-2021, 05:48 PM
Don’t know how to feel. Not bad but not good either.
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 05:49 PM
This is a team we need to beat. Not the end of the world if we don't. But this is a very winnable opportunity for a relatively good road win.
SM#24
12-05-2021, 05:49 PM
Arena is EMPTY.
I guess that's Ok St's version of an orange out.
Probably just me. But all I notice is 5 guys on the perimeter, with an occasional screen.
Don't we have any real plays that our guys know how to run?
Not just you. That’s what we’re seeing.
SM#24
12-05-2021, 05:52 PM
This is a team we need to beat. Not the end of the world if we don't. But this is a very winnable opportunity for a relatively good road win.
Need to knock off the TOs
Strange Brew
12-05-2021, 05:52 PM
Paul! It was a bunny, sheesh.
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 05:54 PM
Shot selection is atrocious.
Boy are we taking some bad shots.
Strange Brew
12-05-2021, 05:55 PM
How is that on Free?!?!
Kunkel has been a major liability.
xudash
12-05-2021, 05:56 PM
This is a team we need to beat. Not the end of the world if we don't. But this is a very winnable opportunity for a relatively good road win.
They are obviously very athletic and they are causing us problems, but we just seem to be shooting ourselves in the foot.
Strange Brew
12-05-2021, 05:57 PM
See if that gets Free going.
SM#24
12-05-2021, 05:57 PM
They are obviously very athletic and they are causing us problems, but we just seem to be shooting ourselves in the foot.
This !!
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 05:59 PM
Had X +1.5 first half. That shot sucked.
xuwillie
12-05-2021, 05:59 PM
Scruggs and Kunkel shouldn't be playing as much as they do. Simple is that
Strange Brew
12-05-2021, 06:00 PM
Had X +1.5 first half. That shot sucked.
Of course that goes in. Sloppy half. Clean it up Steele.
SM#24
12-05-2021, 06:00 PM
Anderson is making some tough shots.
SM#24
12-05-2021, 06:05 PM
A lot of good esp. rebounding. Too many TOs and they're just outshooting us 55% vs. 36%. They're making some tough shots, not all that disappointed in the D.
This is a game where lack of any sort of offensive system is a problem. They're aggressive and overplay. Need a lot of movement and screening and we'll get easier shots, or we can keep picking and popping out high (including the bigs) and get shitty shots. Only 3 assists on 12 baskets; that's very low.
xukeith
12-05-2021, 06:08 PM
We need Colby Jones to play with more confidence. He is the best player on the court.
kxblue
12-05-2021, 06:11 PM
X needs to win this game. It’s an easy road game that would go along way at tourney time.
Hopefully can clean up the stuff from the first half, get Jones more involved, and X should win.
RoseyMuskie
12-05-2021, 06:12 PM
The sequence where Paul missed a front end, then a bunny, was just painful. Needed that to get them out of the drought.
The turnovers have been a major issue, AGAIN.
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 06:13 PM
Some OK State prick fans got pissy with me at halftime because I'm in good seats. Wouldn't let me out of my row. Weird. Got seats from a big OSU fan/donor I work with. And we've been far from obnoxious. Just lightly cheering for X. Some people just suck.
bleedXblue
12-05-2021, 06:13 PM
TO's and no offensive system at all. Without Nate we are down double digits.
Xville
12-05-2021, 06:18 PM
Scruggs needs to assert himself this half and make sure x doesn’t lose.
These refs are pretty bad. First calling Nate out and then missing the push in the back.
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 06:24 PM
Miles shouldn't play the rest of the game after that sequence.
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 06:26 PM
Scruggs throws it in the ocean on a miracle. My shitty OSU fans did not enjoy. Every other OSU fan has been lovely!
Xville
12-05-2021, 06:27 PM
Miles shouldn't play the rest of the game after that sequence.
That was pretty hideous. Is there any atmosphere there at all? On tv it sounds like there is 5 people there and they are playing an open gym. Thought they usually had pretty good crowd support?
noteggs
12-05-2021, 06:27 PM
Banks open
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 06:28 PM
That was pretty hideous. Is there any atmosphere there at all? On tv it sounds like there is 5 people there and they are playing an open gym. Thought they usually had pretty good crowd support?
Crowd is a joke. They should be embarrassed, but they don't care about basketball.
Miles shouldn't play the rest of the game after that sequence.
That hurt my eyes……
Colby to Free looked like actual basketball! Welcome to this season, Zack!
Love this lineup. Been waiting for it
HAAS_U
12-05-2021, 06:30 PM
These refs are blind
Xville
12-05-2021, 06:31 PM
How is that ok state ball? Geezus these refs are bad
How about a replay on these lousy calls? Let’s know for sure. ESPN can’t afford that?
Even one of the guys calling the game said the refs must have it out for X. Ha.
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 06:35 PM
Let's have a run now to get some cushion!
noteggs
12-05-2021, 06:35 PM
Not to mention a little extra hang on rim
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 06:36 PM
Got the ball up 6. Let's go!!!!!!
noteggs
12-05-2021, 06:36 PM
Oh well, six on five. Let’s go boys!
Xville
12-05-2021, 06:37 PM
Alright starting to pull away..step on their necks and don’t let up
xukeith
12-05-2021, 06:38 PM
keep that zone !
Xville
12-05-2021, 06:44 PM
Kunkel and Nunge shot selection ugh. Let them right back in it
RoseyMuskie
12-05-2021, 06:47 PM
Odom’s FT stroke is pretty nice. Makes the three hitch that much more confusing.
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 06:48 PM
We have to win this game. Have to.
xudash
12-05-2021, 06:48 PM
These refs are pretty bad. First calling Nate out and then missing the push in the back.
LHell, the announcers were talking about it in no uncertain terms. Pretty belligerent.
Strange Brew
12-05-2021, 06:50 PM
Merry Christmas Paul!
What percentage of that arena is full? I don’t care if the students are on break, I’ve never seen Cintas quite like that.
Colby Jones is good at basketball.
He just has a knack that most others do not.
Lloyd Braun
12-05-2021, 06:54 PM
Colby Jones is so good
bjf123
12-05-2021, 06:55 PM
Miles needs a little more air under his free throws.
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Strange Brew
12-05-2021, 06:55 PM
These refs are poop.
HAAS_U
12-05-2021, 06:56 PM
What percentage of that arena is full? I don’t care if the students are on break, I’ve never seen Cintas quite like that.
I’d be surprised if it is more than 15%. They clearly don’t care about basketball. And ESPN doesn’t care to have announcers there in person so they can save a buck. Pretty embarrassing all around. Glad X is pulling away now.
HAAS_U
12-05-2021, 06:59 PM
God Bless Colby Jones
X showing the juice right now.
bjf123
12-05-2021, 07:01 PM
That place really is empty.
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Strange Brew
12-05-2021, 07:01 PM
I will not be pleased if Steele abandons the zone.
Strange Brew
12-05-2021, 07:02 PM
I will not be pleased if Steele abandons the zone.
And he did unless that was a box and 1.
Really good defense and hustling by our guys. Love to see it.
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 07:03 PM
Hunter should lose his scholarship for that shot.
RoseyMuskie
12-05-2021, 07:03 PM
Why, why, why, does Hunter have that green light?
xudash
12-05-2021, 07:05 PM
Hunter should lose his scholarship for that shot.
Thought the same thing. What a terrible time to try something you know you’re not good at and on the road to boot.
noteggs
12-05-2021, 07:06 PM
Green light is one thing…but didn’t run any time off
And he shouldn’t
Strange Brew
12-05-2021, 07:06 PM
Sorry boys, didn’t realize i was behind (thought I was live). Carry on.
kxblue
12-05-2021, 07:06 PM
Why, why, why, does Hunter have that green light?
Should be an automatic trip to the bench. His defense is needed but man his decision making is polar opposites of Colby.
Lloyd Braun
12-05-2021, 07:07 PM
Prediction: that will not be the last ill-advised shot we see form him. Just a hunch
It is officially “Make Your FT’s Time”.
EDIT: For US!
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 07:12 PM
Good lord.
Come on guys. Help each other out with the press
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 07:13 PM
Miracle that three didn't go.
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 07:14 PM
We are dumb.
kxblue
12-05-2021, 07:16 PM
Be nice to ice these games better. Can’t seem to help our net ranking very often
GoMuskies
12-05-2021, 07:17 PM
Think this is on ice. Colby!!!
xudash
12-05-2021, 07:18 PM
We need HUNTER for a quick three attempt to answer that made three. M
NOT!!!!!!!!!!
bjf123
12-05-2021, 07:19 PM
Do not foul the 3 point shooter!
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Think this is on ice. Colby!!!
This would be on YOU, of course!
EDIT: You may be safe.
RoseyMuskie
12-05-2021, 07:25 PM
Good win.
Watching Jones rebound the rock is a treat.
Nice adjustment to the zone as well.
xudash
12-05-2021, 07:28 PM
I think we should also acknowledge the fact that Travis pulled HUNTER after that three attempt and he didn’t see the floor for the rest of the game. Perhaps, if he had the greenlight before, he no longer has it now.
Strange Brew
12-05-2021, 07:29 PM
Ugly roadkill is still edible. Nice win!
Xville
12-05-2021, 07:32 PM
That was kind of ugly, but any road win is a good win so I will take it! Really should enter conference play with only one loss which is really strong!
xukeith
12-05-2021, 07:33 PM
Good win. OSU sure loves to play fast.
Colby Jones is a strong calming effect.
Nunge too is reliable.
They shutdown Johnson after his strong first half.
That 2-3 zone was the secret that had X grab the game.
I am not at all disappointed in Miles. He did exactly what we want him to do, play strong defense, rebound the ball and hit free throws.
Odom had zero assists and credit the style of play to the Cowboys.
Sruggs needs to stop stopping his dribble against the press and dribbling to sidelines.
Hunter had some rock solid defense and clutch blocks.
Not likely OSU will be a top 50 team BUT a huge road win is gained.
whopper
12-05-2021, 07:35 PM
I liked Freemantle fluidity and should get some moe run v Kent State..liked Miles hitting FT, confident Nate, Nunge, Paul, Colby, Dawn and prob Zach when he gets warmed up.liked just about everything really
kxblue
12-05-2021, 07:47 PM
I think we should also acknowledge the fact that Travis pulled HUNTER after that three attempt and he didn’t see the floor for the rest of the game. Perhaps, if he had the greenlight before, he no longer has it now.
Agreed hopefully with the roster at full strength he sends messages more frequently. X didn’t play all that well but I thought Steele coached a good game. Good win on the road esp after that first half.
SM#24
12-05-2021, 07:52 PM
So I decided to track our shots in the 2nd half because I thought we took a lot of bad shots in the 1st and it's something I've wanted to do for a while because I think we take a lot of bad shots. I basically rated each shot as far as quality of the shot selection goes as either good shot, bad shot, ok shot; I even separated those that were under shot clock duress.
Good shots - 11 shots, went 9-9, fouled on 2 and went 3-4 on the FT
ok shots - 5 shots, went 2-4, fouled on 1 and went 2-2 on the FT (one was under shot clock duress, went 0-1)
Bad shots - 12 shots, went 1-10, fouled on 2 and went 3-4 from FT (two were under shot clock duress, went 1-2...the only bad shot make was Scruggs' banked 3)
(note that I missed a miss somewhere)
I figured it would reveal something like this but not this extreme. Today was probably an anomaly.
SM#24
12-05-2021, 07:53 PM
Not likely OSU will be a top 50 team BUT a huge road win is gained.
I think they need to be top 75 for Quad 1 win.
GreatWhiteNorth
12-05-2021, 07:54 PM
The final few minutes were kind of ugly, but an away win is always welcome. Congrats to Steele, coaches and the players.
xukeith
12-05-2021, 07:56 PM
So I decided to track our shots in the 2nd half because I thought we took a lot of bad shots in the 1st and it's something I've wanted to do for a while because I think we take a lot of bad shots. I basically rated each shot as far as quality of the shot selection goes as either good shot, bad shot, ok shot; I even separated those that were under shot clock duress.
Good shots - 11 shots, went 9-9, fouled on 2 and went 3-4 on the FT
ok shots - 5 shots, went 2-4, fouled on 1 and went 2-2 on the FT (one was under shot clock duress, went 0-1)
Bad shots - 12 shots, went 1-10, fouled on 2 and went 3-4 from FT (two were under shot clock duress, went 1-2...the only bad shot make was Scruggs' banked 3)
(note that I missed a miss somewhere)
I figured it would reveal something like this but not this extreme. Today was probably an anomaly.
I understand these categories but what would you expect Scruggs to do with one second on shot clock? It is always a bad shot.
boozehound
12-05-2021, 08:38 PM
Pretty well played game, except for the last few min. We need to get better at handling the press. It will eventually cost us a game.
Love Nate playing well but not forcing it. Colby has one of the best motors I have seen in a while - always active and moving. Miles continues to give quality minutes and Nunge was a solid pickup.
What percentage of that arena is full? I don’t care if the students are on break, I’ve never seen Cintas quite like that.
A. It's 5 o'clock on a Sunday during football season, where do you suppose your average Oklahoman is at?
B. Watching NFL football.
A. It's 5 o'clock on a Sunday during football season, where do you suppose your average Oklahoman is at?
B. Watching NFL football.
I don’t care. It wasn’t a college football conflict. That was a pathetic showing, unlike anything I’ve ever seen at X outside of Covid.
I don’t care. It wasn’t a college football conflict. That was a pathetic showing, unlike anything I’ve ever seen at X outside of Covid.
Jeez, it's effing OK St. Do you seriously think they give a sh*t about basketball ? They were probably at home power washing their tractors or waxing their cowboy boots.
xudash
12-05-2021, 09:57 PM
Jeez, it's effing OK St. Do you seriously think they give a sh*t about basketball ? They were probably at home power washing their tractors or waxing their cowboy boots.
Keep in mind that they had just lost to Baylor in the B12 Championship Game the day before in Dallas. A lot of people that would have attended today's game were sulking big time, with some of them possibly still hanging out in the Big D to drown their sorrows.
When one of our biggest problems with a game is the attendance of the other team's home fans, we may be on the right track.
Jeez, it's effing OK St. Do you seriously think they give a sh*t about basketball ? They were probably at home power washing their tractors or waxing their cowboy boots.
Well, thanks for making my point.
I just thought it was striking how empty the place was.
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SM#24
12-05-2021, 10:17 PM
I understand these categories but what would you expect Scruggs to do with one second on shot clock? It is always a bad shot.
I totally agree. Some bad shots are a product of good defense and not poor judgment. That’s why I separated those at the end of the shot clock. I do have an issue with bad shot selection with time left on the shot clock. If you’re closely guarded, pass the ball. You can always get a bad shot at the end of the shot clock, why take one when you have some time to get a better one ?
Today most of the bad shots in the second were not shot clock induced.
XUGRAD80
12-05-2021, 10:50 PM
X out rebounded them by a bunch, made a bunch more free throws than OKST even tried, and played defense well enough that OKST shot only about 30% in the 2nd half. The switch to zone in the 2nd half almost completely shut the OKST offense down. Sure, X still takes some stupid shots, and they definitely need to work out the kinks in regards to breaking the press. But overall that’s a winning formula and that will turn out to be a pretty good road win.
Also regarding Hunter….that was one of the stupidest shots I can remember an X player taking. But according to the box score that was his ONLY 3 point attempt of the game. That’s progress! Think the coach told him to never take another one?
D-West & PO-Z
12-05-2021, 11:41 PM
Offensive rebounds won us the game.
Colby is a stud.
Nate was huge keeping us in it in the 1st half.
Glad Free got some extended run to keep knocking the rust off.
Big Quad 1 road win.
XUGRAD80
12-06-2021, 06:54 AM
I’ll also point out that X took only 18 3-point shots in this game, made 6, and still scored 77 points. I hope they learn something from that.
Offensive rebounds + making free throws = success!
Edit to add…..Freemantle got 19 minutes of playing time. The same number as Hunter. Jones, Johnson, and Scruggs had 32,31, and 30 respectively. I can see 28-30 for Free and 10-12 for Hunter in the future, with Nunge and Miles splitting time to, probably at 25/15 depending on foul trouble.
paulxu
12-06-2021, 07:57 AM
If you’re closely guarded, pass the ball.
There's a novel idea.
Smails
12-06-2021, 08:56 AM
Get in..get a win..and get out. Mission accomplished. We definitely could have handled the pressure a lot better, but that's OSU's game so there's inevitabley going to be periods of yuk when you play them. I loved our grit on the boards and going after 50/50 balls.
They sure gave us the Sunday afternoon officiating crew for this one. That crew was either hung over or forgot some basic basketball rules. There was one sequence where OSU had the ball out of bounds and the ref let them switch the inbounder after he had already handed the the ball to them....WTF?? I thought Steele was going to lose his mind on that one.
Oh and King McClure is literally the worst color guy I have ever heard. Just a special kind of bad.
D-West & PO-Z
12-06-2021, 09:13 AM
Get in..get a win..and get out. Mission accomplished. We definitely could have handled the pressure a lot better, but that's OSU's game so there's inevitabley going to be periods of yuk when you play them. I loved our grit on the boards and going after 50/50 balls.
They sure gave us the Sunday afternoon officiating crew for this one. That crew was either hung over or forgot some basic basketball rules. There was one sequence where OSU had the ball out of bounds and the ref let them switch the inbounder after he had already handed the the ball to them....WTF?? I thought Steele was going to lose his mind on that one.
Oh and King McClure is literally the worst color guy I have ever heard. Just a special kind of bad.
King McClure I had never heard of before last night. He was definitely not polished, but he was refreshingly honest nd blunt about the referees. I think he is only around 24 years old too, so he has room to grow.
He is already lightyears better than Dickey Simpkins. No one else can ever be labeled the worst while Dickey is still working.
Len Elmore and Stephen Bardo are pretty terrible too. I will take this McClure guy over all 3 of those guys.
atljar
12-06-2021, 09:20 AM
Oh and King McClure is literally the worst color guy I have ever heard. Just a special kind of bad.
Agreed. I typically can block them out fairly well, but I just ditched the TV volume and put on Byron/Joe. I RARELY do this because its such a pain to try and sync it up, but yesterday was one of those special kinda days
Lloyd Braun
12-06-2021, 09:32 AM
I liked King Mclure, not sure what the issue was. He told it like it is… had great things to say about Colby as well. Seemed to recognize the flow of the game, etc.
boozehound
12-06-2021, 09:48 AM
I liked King Mclure, not sure what the issue was. He told it like it is… had great things to say about Colby as well. Seemed to recognize the flow of the game, etc.
His delivery wasn't... exciting. It sounded like he was calling the game from a public library.
GoMuskies
12-06-2021, 09:51 AM
His delivery wasn't... exciting. It sounded like he was calling the game from a public library.
In fairness, I've been to public libraries with more atmosphere than that arena yesterday. Oklahoma State fans are apparently not too hyped for basketball.
Xavier
12-06-2021, 10:27 AM
They were also remote announcers, probably just at home. Which again may have been a better atmosphere than the arena but can explain some of the issues
I liked King Mclure, not sure what the issue was. He told it like it is… had great things to say about Colby as well. Seemed to recognize the flow of the game, etc.
You mean like how he said, “I think these refs have it out for Xavier” after a few atrocious calls in a row. I was like, “Did he really just say that?”
The worst call might have been when the ref blew the whistle and said Nate’s foot was out of bounds as he stole the ball. Steele couldn’t believe it. The replay showed Nate’s foot was like a foot inside the line.
markchal
12-06-2021, 11:26 AM
I've been kinda shocked with how well the team has played without a full-strength Freemantle. Nunge has been incredible and Hunter has been erratic offensively but has a good motor and his length helps on defense (he's an upgrade over Carter). I like the shortened rotation (even if it wasn't Kunkel's best game) and the team we've become.
Adding a preseason first-team all BE player to it should only be an upgrade, once we figure out rotation and offensive flow adjustments.
Smails
12-06-2021, 01:06 PM
I liked King Mclure, not sure what the issue was.
Zero energy...horrible delivery and sounded like he had no interest in doing the game. That was my issue. I don't need Dickie V , but man at least pretend to be somewhat excited.
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