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noteggs
01-16-2022, 01:56 PM
9-7 with wins @ #1 Baylor and at home against #14 Texas.

Seem very inconsistent outside of losses to Oakland and Wichita St all their other losses are to good teams.

Pretty impressive wins considering they are only playing for their pride at this point.

markchal
01-16-2022, 02:18 PM
Sign me up for 12-6 right now! 12-6 is probably 2nd or 3rd place. Seton Hall already has 3 losses. Nova is going to finish first, Providence only has 1 loss but will be interesting to see how they look coming out of the long layoff and if they will be full strength.

12-6 would be incredible. We'd be looking at a 4-5 seed likely.

I think it's much more likely we're 9-9 than 12-6. We seem to have it in us to lose to anyone, which worries me about defending the home court. But that's why they play the games, and I'm at least excited for the rest of conf play. A lot of good teams, but we are at least one of them.

Xville
01-16-2022, 02:52 PM
First, there are 20 conference games…may only play 19 if gtown doesn’t get rescheduled.

Anyways, I see 10-9, 11-9 if they reschedule gtown. The league is too good and x has deficiencies

D-West & PO-Z
01-16-2022, 05:15 PM
First, there are 20 conference games…may only play 19 if gtown doesn’t get rescheduled.

Anyways, I see 10-9, 11-9 if they reschedule gtown. The league is too good and x has deficiencies

HA thanks, I wasn't thinking and didn't realize ESPN was missing a game bc of Georgetown. I was also not counting our Creighton game for some reason. Doh!

I see our best case scenario as 13-7, I see 11-9 as likely, worse than that would be pretty disappointing to me and could put us pretty far back in the standings. We should be a top 3-4 team given how we can play and what I have seen from the other teams. However we always drop a couple we have no business losing. If we can steal a big win on the road that would be awesome but I am not counting on that.

drudy23
01-17-2022, 10:59 AM
First, there are 20 conference games…may only play 19 if gtown doesn’t get rescheduled.

Anyways, I see 10-9, 11-9 if they reschedule gtown. The league is too good and x has deficiencies

I could see this happening, but it would be very disappointing imo.

This team has the potential at a 4-6 seed if they can finish top 4th of the Big East. Near .500 has us in the 9-11 range again, which isn't where you want to be. I'd take it over nothing, but would expect an early exit.

D-West & PO-Z
01-17-2022, 12:43 PM
I could see this happening, but it would be very disappointing imo.

This team has the potential at a 4-6 seed if they can finish top 4th of the Big East. Near .500 has us in the 9-11 range again, which isn't where you want to be. I'd take it over nothing, but would expect an early exit.

Since we joined the BE one game over .500 has been good for:

4th
6th
3rd
6th
7th
6th
6th
6th

Average finish of: 5.5

So while I generally agree that I would be disappointed with a record of only 1 game over .500 in conference play, I don't think it would be as disastrous as you think and it certainly would not have us at the bottom of the league. Probably more 5-7 than 9-11.

I think we should be a top 4 team in this league this year though so if that doesn't happen, it is disappointing to me.


EDIT: I just realized you are talking 9-11 seed I think not 9-11 in the BE. Nevermind!

xudash
01-17-2022, 05:52 PM
On the continuing matter of Steele's ability to "coach them up" - player development over the course of the season:

It may sound simple, but sometimes that's all you need - from the Cincy paper:

After Wednesday's loss to Villanova, a game in which Freemantle didn't play the final six and a half minutes, Steele told Freemantle he wants him to focus on two things. "It's just your attitude and your effort," said Steele. "If you have a great attitude, you're a great teammate and you give max effort.

"Get back to just flying around, sprinting the floor, hustling on the glass. And he did that."

Freemantle finished with 13 points and 11 rebounds against Creighton. His effort, defensively and rebounding, was a drastic improvement.

And a few of you guys here have made this point, which was also clearly made in the article: Xavier with Nunge and Freemantle on the floor at the same time spells trouble for the opposition on both ends of the court. With Zach out of the haze, we should hope to see closer to 40 minutes of sound basketball overall. One can hope.

drudy23
01-17-2022, 05:55 PM
On the continuing matter of Steele's ability to "coach them up" - player development over the course of the season:

It may sound simple, but sometimes that's all you need - from the Cincy paper:

After Wednesday's loss to Villanova, a game in which Freemantle didn't play the final six and a half minutes, Steele told Freemantle he wants him to focus on two things. "It's just your attitude and your effort," said Steele. "If you have a great attitude, you're a great teammate and you give max effort.

"Get back to just flying around, sprinting the floor, hustling on the glass. And he did that."

Freemantle finished with 13 points and 11 rebounds against Creighton. His effort, defensively and rebounding, was a drastic improvement.

And a few of you guys here have made this point, which was also clearly made in the article: Xavier with Nunge and Freemantle on the floor at the same time spells trouble for the opposition on both ends of the court. With Zach out of the haze, we should hope to see closer to 40 minutes of sound basketball overall. One can hope.

I guess the question is - why would he have stopped doing that?

xudash
01-17-2022, 05:57 PM
I guess the question is - why would he have stopped doing that?

The article pointed out that the surgery, the long layoff, getting tossed back into action, and in a different role/position, made it tough for him to transition back in. He's human.

whopper
01-17-2022, 07:17 PM
I think it is a little like going from JV to Varsity. Playing against Ball State was like JV(good players but a step down) and if you had a good JV game at 6'3" and were asked to play varsity the same move that got you 20 in JV gets swatted in Varsity. Everything is faster, quick decisions must be made and the effort required to defend and rebound is much greater. You can't guarantee results, you can get dunked on, shots blocked, get unfair foul calls or fail to draw fouls unfairly but you can guarantee effort. Zach especially out-efforted his way to good numbers as a sophomore and even a freshman but needed to be reminded this year(although Villanova did remind him, even Butler did, and Kaltenbrenner did for a while.). However something clicked it seemed in second half and lets hope it continues

drudy23
01-17-2022, 08:10 PM
The article pointed out that the surgery, the long layoff, getting tossed back into action, and in a different role/position, made it tough for him to transition back in. He's human.

My question was not why isn't he playing well, but why he's not playing hard. That's the easy part.

Xuperman
01-22-2022, 11:38 AM
Well, as far as the highly anticipated 1st NCAA Tournament for Coach Steele, it now can be looked at in very simplistic terms.

IF, the last 13 games are played......7-6 IN....6-7 Bubble?

markchal
01-22-2022, 12:29 PM
My question was not why isn't he playing well, but why he's not playing hard. That's the easy part.

idk I think it's kinda concerning that an upperclassmen, first team All-BE player is being coached for his attitude and effort. Those two things should be a baseline for getting in the rotation as a newcomer and an absolute given for a team leader.

American X
01-30-2022, 07:13 AM
Can we merge the team that played the first half at Villanova with the team that played the second half at Creighton and have that team play every half?

Xuperman
01-30-2022, 09:21 AM
Can we merge the team that played the first half at Villanova with the team that played the second half at Creighton and have that team play every half?

Nothing would be closer to heaven than that!! Other than a free lifetime supply of Grippo's BBQ Pork Rinds.
:clap:

Cincypunk.org
01-30-2022, 10:17 AM
Is there a reason Ben Stanley does not see the floor? Wouldn’t he be like a better 3 point shooting Jerome Hunter who can also post up with a little less defensive ability?

I mean when Hunter is having a bad game I don’t see what he doesn’t get a shot.

Also, what are the chances he comes back next year? I’d hate to see him sit on the bench again.

Is anyone else sick of every year hearing about how we have the most amazing recruiting classes and then those guys literally never step on the floor.

Edwards, Miles, etc.

xukeith
01-30-2022, 10:32 AM
Is there a reason Ben Stanley does not see the floor? Wouldn’t he be like a better 3 point shooting Jerome Hunter who can also post up with a little less defensive ability?

I mean when Hunter is having a bad game I don’t see what he doesn’t get a shot.

Also, what are the chances he comes back next year? I’d hate to see him sit on the bench again.

Is anyone else sick of every year hearing about how we have the most amazing recruiting classes and then those guys literally never step on the floor.

Edwards, Miles, etc.

There is a reason Edwards is wearing a boot.
Odom, and Jones play a lot and help the X team.
Miles has seen more action after not playing for awhile (2-5 minutes)
What amazing recruit do you want to be on the floor? Stanley is a transfer and he is a step slow so says he after his knee injury.
What is with the love affair with Stanley? He "looks" strong but why throw him in the mix? Do you know something we don't?
Tandy is injured. Tucker is redshirted.
Hunter is long and does not destroy the team. He is better than Carter but not as good to start anymore

Masterofreality
01-30-2022, 10:38 AM
Can we merge the team that played the first half at Villanova with the team that played the second half at Creighton and have that team play every half?

That would mean playing Nunge, Jones, Scruggs, Free and Johnson 40 minutes a game.
Maybe??

XU 87
01-30-2022, 01:15 PM
Is there a reason Ben Stanley does not see the floor? Wouldn’t he be like a better 3 point shooting Jerome Hunter who can also post up with a little less defensive ability?

I mean when Hunter is having a bad game I don’t see what he doesn’t get a shot.

Also, what are the chances he comes back next year? I’d hate to see him sit on the bench again.

Is anyone else sick of every year hearing about how we have the most amazing recruiting classes and then those guys literally never step on the floor.

Edwards, Miles, etc.

My top secret inside sources tell me that Ben Stanley hasn't fully recovered from his ACL surgery. He has lost a step, hopefully just temporarily.

Leghorn
01-30-2022, 02:18 PM
I've noticed during warmups that Stanley still appears to be limping. But it looks like he has a great attitude.

UCGRAD4X
01-31-2022, 05:44 AM
I've noticed during warmups that Stanley still appears to be limping. But it looks like he has a great attitude.

Foghorn leg?

fellahmuskie
01-31-2022, 10:28 AM
Anyone know when we'll find out about covid requirements for February?

American X
02-01-2022, 04:26 PM
I will say in favor for this season that it is not dull. We go from running Villanova out of their own building to almost losing to DePaul. You never know what to expect from game to game or even half to half. The Omaha Resurrection featured both Xavier's best and worst halves of the year. We will have to get through the whole season to know if our interesting times are a blessing or a curse.

GIMMFD
02-01-2022, 07:05 PM
Foghorn leg?

He's not playing because he can't jump off one foot.

Xuperman
02-02-2022, 02:36 PM
I don't believe anyone has posted this.....but, then again, I didn't look too hard.

The postponed UConn game is on for Friday 2/11. Problem is, X is in Newark on Wednesday!! Just call it the Black and Blue 2....get a Dub in one of those and things should look rosey.

xukeith
02-02-2022, 04:34 PM
I don't believe anyone has posted this.....but, then again, I didn't look too hard.

The postponed UConn game is on for Friday 2/11. Problem is, X is in Newark on Wednesday!! Just call it the Black and Blue 2....get a Dub in one of those and things should look rosey.

It seems SH struggles without their injured players. Hope we can sweep them. They barely beat Georgetown

murray87
02-04-2022, 12:52 PM
Not basketball related but it seems a Xavier fan has single-handedly taken down the North Korean internet (twice!):

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2022/02/04/lone-u-s-hacker-brings-down-entire-north-korean-internet-twice-n1556134

American X
02-06-2022, 02:15 PM
Remember at the beginning of the season how we were all excited about our depth, going 10 deep and worrying about everyone getting enough minutes? Me neither.

Today, I see the starters playing a ton of minutes and a short bench getting shorter.

smileyy
02-08-2022, 11:31 PM
Could be worse. Could be a Lakers fan.

Xavier
02-09-2022, 11:07 AM
I’ve been critical of Mario’s scheduling approach for a few years now. Just use OOC as a numbers game- but we don’t really have many games to get us prepared for big East play. That may be why we look so much better before conference play, that and Big East coaching is better, and seeing X/travis year over year he gets exposed easier?

Maybe a combination of both

paulxu
02-09-2022, 12:17 PM
Our non-conference SOS is 30th nationally.
Only Nova at 22 is better in the BE.
Many of our conference brethren have non-conference SOS in the 200's.

drudy23
02-09-2022, 12:34 PM
I’ve been critical of Mario’s scheduling approach for a few years now. Just use OOC as a numbers game- but we don’t really have many games to get us prepared for big East play. That may be why we look so much better before conference play, that and Big East coaching is better, and seeing X/travis year over year he gets exposed easier?

Maybe a combination of both

Our non-conference schedule isn't nearly as strong since we moved to the Big East, but who's is? That's one of the advantages of being in a Top 3 basketball conference.

In saying that, it's pretty obvious that most of our non-conference opponents simply aren't as tough as the Big East competition. The Big East is pretty much a Top 3 basketball conference, and it's tough sledding every game.

I don't see them increasing the difficulty of the non conference schedule. There's no need to. We have to take better care of business, and build our team to be ready for the Big East every year. Success there will almost always lead to a tournament bid.

Masterofreality
02-09-2022, 01:51 PM
Our non-conference SOS is 30th nationally.
Only Nova at 22 is better in the BE.
Many of our conference brethren have non-conference SOS in the 200's.

Travis Steele is under .500 in Big East games over 3.5 years. We’ve missed the Tournament these 3 years.
Seems like the league is what counts

muskiefan82
02-09-2022, 01:57 PM
Travis Steele is under .500 in Big East games over 3.5 years. We’ve missed the Tournament these 3 years.
Seems like the league is what counts

BINGO. BING. GO. BINGO. The coaches who KNOW us, outcoach us unless we shoot lights out or just have better talent.

paulxu
02-09-2022, 04:02 PM
Travis Steele is under .500 in Big East games over 3.5 years. We’ve missed the Tournament these 3 years.
Seems like the league is what counts

I agree with that for sure.
I was addressing the poster's comment about our non-conference schedule, which by most metrics is pretty good.
Should prepare us well for the BE; the fact that we struggle in the BE is another kettle of fish. And we sure have struggled lately.

American X
02-12-2022, 06:23 AM
This team is like Nuke LaLoosh pitching. We don't know where it's gonna go. Swear to God.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euHfP6X_axY

noteggs
02-14-2022, 10:38 PM
Here is a little nugget. From the rankings thread, I asked how many seasons have we been ranked 10 times in one season. Did some digging and went back to Skip to find out how many times each coach/team had been ranked 10 times in a season. Here’s what I found out.

Skip - twice while both coming halfway through his tenure.
Thad - once in three years he coached X
Sean - twice his last two years. Before that, we were ranked only one week total in his first 3 years.
Chris - 3 times his last 3 years. Took him seven seasons to get his first.
Travis - one time and same timeframe as Sean. Of course, dropped out this week.

I know polls are what they are and at the end day it’s about tournament success. Pollyannish? Perhaps. Just trying to put a little perspective on this season and how others view our program. And yes, we still need some improvement from our HC and make the damn tournament which I think they will.

noteggs
02-15-2022, 02:18 PM
This will be one entertaining (hopefully) MTE next Thanksgiving

https://goxavier.com/news/2022/2/15/rip-city-management-llc-announces-xavier-mens-basketball-as-a-part-of-the-phil-knight-legacy-2022-college-basketball-tournament.aspx

MHettel
02-15-2022, 03:33 PM
This will be one entertaining (hopefully) MTE next Thanksgiving

https://goxavier.com/news/2022/2/15/rip-city-management-llc-announces-xavier-mens-basketball-as-a-part-of-the-phil-knight-legacy-2022-college-basketball-tournament.aspx

Oh, Ill be at that. Finally, some (semi) local action I can drive to.

xukeith
02-15-2022, 04:24 PM
Oh, Ill be at that. Finally, some (semi) local action I can drive to.

I guess the original plan of having two 8 team tourneys on two separate courts each playing a separate 2 game tourney canceled. it was too good to be true. Cool X is in this

JTG
02-15-2022, 05:55 PM
Pretty much an Elite 8 field.

muskiefan82
02-16-2022, 09:31 AM
This will be one entertaining (hopefully) MTE next Thanksgiving

https://goxavier.com/news/2022/2/15/rip-city-management-llc-announces-xavier-mens-basketball-as-a-part-of-the-phil-knight-legacy-2022-college-basketball-tournament.aspx

Unless you are Portland State. Well, if you want an opportunity to make a splash here are THREE opportunities. In your backyard.

X-band '01
02-16-2022, 12:20 PM
Also keep in mind Portland is in another bracket in the same situation as Portland State.

GoMuskies
02-21-2022, 02:42 PM
Free got the gold jersey this week.

American X
02-22-2022, 07:17 AM
Free got the gold jersey this week.

He already has complete permission to do whatever the fuck he wants on the basketball court, so what does it matter? Did he actually earn it or did Steele just give it to him because, you know, it's Zach?

Xville
02-22-2022, 08:01 AM
It’s a weird thought but maybe a gold Jersey should be given to the one who played the best in a game.

bleedXblue
02-22-2022, 08:12 AM
He already has complete permission to do whatever the fuck he wants on the basketball court, so what does it matter? Did he actually earn it or did Steele just give it to him because, you know, it's Zach?

Exactly

Keep making those 3's in practice so that you can brick more of them in the games

Xville
02-22-2022, 08:27 AM
Exactly

Keep making those 3's in practice so that you can brick more of them in the games

“Eventually, they are going to go in, man”

Xville
02-22-2022, 08:37 AM
Bracket matrix and bracketology still have x as a 7 updated today. Can this team rally and just be 2-2 over the next couple of weeks to safely be in the tournament? Heck, even beating just gtown (not guaranteed) may get it done. Kind of nuts, but I guess those quad 1 wins are just helping to a crazy extent. I saw last night unc is on the bubble and has just 1 quad 1 win. Others they listed IU and I forgot the other had 3-4

bleedXblue
02-22-2022, 08:54 AM
Bracket matrix and bracketology still have x as a 7 updated today. Can this team rally and just be 2-2 over the next couple of weeks to safely be in the tournament? Heck, even beating just gtown (not guaranteed) may get it done. Kind of nuts, but I guess those quad 1 wins are just helping to a crazy extent. I saw last night unc is on the bubble and has just 1 quad 1 win. Others they listed IU and I forgot the other had 3-4

I have no faith in Steele to rally this team. At best 2-2. I see 1-3 honestly. Maybe pull out a win in the BE tourney and that's it

4 years of a team not getting hot or catching momentum in league play for a 5-6 game stretch of good b-ball.

Xavier
02-22-2022, 10:07 AM
Yep, as I mentioned before it will be difficult to play our way out. Just beating Gtown may warrant a play in game. The committee always stresses something different but from the committee update (or whatever that is where they named the top 16 teams) people said they stressed the quality wins. X will have a lot more than surrounding bubble teams. 2-2 is a lock.

JTG
02-22-2022, 11:11 AM
Looking at Lundardi's latest bracket, we will have 14 games against tournament teams. Granted we are 5-9 in those games so far, but the BE is the gift that keeps on giving. Remember pre BE when we played maybe 2 tournament teams all season ? Not saying we won't embarrass ourselves, but just treading water in this league should equal a trip to the NCAA.

Xuperman
02-22-2022, 12:58 PM
Here's that BE tournament seeding predictor. Hard to be realistic and avoid Wednesday.

http://bball.notnothing.net/bigeast.php?sport=mbb

boozehound
02-22-2022, 12:59 PM
Free got the gold jersey this week.

Going to be great to see Freemantle really letting it fly this week. Maybe he can get to double digit missed 3's in a game.

Masterofreality
02-22-2022, 01:49 PM
Going to be great to see Freemantle really letting it fly this week. Maybe he can get to double digit missed 3's in a game.

Let’s see if he can reduce that 14% three point shooting to single digits!!
That is truly getting the “Best Shot for Xavier”!!
Steele has “All the confidence in the world in Zach!!!
HOORAY!!!!!!

Masterofreality
02-22-2022, 01:53 PM
Here's that BE tournament seeding predictor. Hard to be realistic and avoid Wednesday.

http://bball.notnothing.net/bigeast.php?sport=mbb

Welp, we can probably beat Butler.
*Remembers blowing a 19 point lead in the second half vs Butler in MSG last March.
*Cringes and Cries

Xuperman
02-28-2022, 09:06 AM
Welp, we can probably beat Butler.
*Remembers blowing a 19 point lead in the second half vs Butler in MSG last March.
*Cringes and Cries

Most likely it will be Butler on Wednesday in the 8/9 game, then 1 seed Providence in round 2. That's the best draw we could hope for. There is a possibility that it's DePaul in that 8/9 game, but considering what JFL and Jones did to SJU yesterday.....no thanks.

paulxu
02-28-2022, 09:15 AM
Saw this on another board. Guess it's from the beginning of the season; but it also reminded me that (I think) a couple of years ago we held the record for longest streak of conference record of .500 or better...or something like that.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/275006959_7059948797412155_1412326296834434271_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=k4o9RW8gslUAX8EL478&tn=5Bo1KNLLnYDm3zgV&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AT-1JonQ3OvWpM7HN7IdreRuObKRmK39s8I-SerdbWQayg&oe=62224E59

GoMuskies
02-28-2022, 09:25 AM
Saw this on another board. Guess it's from the beginning of the season; but it also reminded me that (I think) a couple of years ago we held the record for longest streak of conference record of .500 or better...or something like that.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/275006959_7059948797412155_1412326296834434271_n.j pg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=k4o9RW8gslUAX8EL478&tn=5Bo1KNLLnYDm3zgV&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AT-1JonQ3OvWpM7HN7IdreRuObKRmK39s8I-SerdbWQayg&oe=62224E59

Well, we won't screw this one up.....this year.

Xville
02-28-2022, 09:34 AM
Bracket Matrix has X as a 9...assuming they go 1-1 this week, which at this point, may be generous with even a home senior night against Gtown they will be right there in bubble land with Indiana, Michigan and other completely mediocre teams.

But hey, UCLA went to the final four last year out of the first four games with just a bit more talent lol.

Xuperman
02-28-2022, 09:54 AM
Bracket Matrix has X as a 9...assuming they go 1-1 this week, which at this point, may be generous with even a home senior night against Gtown they will be right there in bubble land with Indiana, Michigan and other completely mediocre teams.

But hey, UCLA went to the final four last year out of the first four games with just a bit more talent lol.

If X goes 1-1 and takes an L on Wednesday at MSG, I don't see how an 18-13 record gets in the tournament. 2-8 down the stretch and a lousy 8-11 conference record.....can't see it happening. Got have 2 more wins minimum to get in or the bubble is the weakest in recent memory.

Xville
02-28-2022, 10:08 AM
If X goes 1-1 and takes an L on Wednesday at MSG, I don't see how an 18-13 record gets in the tournament. 2-8 down the stretch and a lousy 8-11 conference record.....can't see it happening. Got have 2 more wins minimum to get in or the bubble is the weakest in recent memory.

Yeah I think we are on the same page.. need 2 wins to feel secure. I want x in the tourney, but I also want Steele gone. I have very conflicting feelings about the next two weeks.

Masterofreality
02-28-2022, 10:32 AM
Yeah I think we are on the same page.. need 2 wins to feel secure. I want x in the tourney, but I also want Steele gone. I have very conflicting feelings about the next two weeks.

This sentiment is more common than you think.

I also want to be able to see more than one Xavier game at MSG so I am VERY conflicted.
The more games the more I can drink in bars to forget them!

Xuperman
02-28-2022, 10:54 AM
This team can still go on a run, but all bets are off if Steele is anywhere close to losing the locker room. The effort and body language on Saturday late was very bad optics.

Also- we need Nate back.....badder than a hog needs slop.

SemajParlor
02-28-2022, 12:45 PM
Previous posts have said similar, but I think winning 2 out of the next 3 should do it. *Assuming 1 is Gtown

muskiefan82
02-28-2022, 12:53 PM
Georgetown has to be thinking X is their shot at a win

GoMuskies
02-28-2022, 01:53 PM
Why is Xavier BB twitter yellow?

D-West & PO-Z
02-28-2022, 02:13 PM
Why is Xavier BB twitter yellow?

Wearing those uniforms from last year on Wed.

GoMuskies
02-28-2022, 02:18 PM
Why would Xavier wear yellow jerseys?!? Did we win in them last year at least?

Masterofreality
02-28-2022, 03:14 PM
Why would Xavier wear yellow jerseys?!? Did we win in them last year at least?

In the early season “Xavier Invitational”!

Masterofreality
02-28-2022, 03:15 PM
In the early season “Xavier Invitational”!

Huge wins vs Toledo & Bradley!!

whopper
02-28-2022, 04:03 PM
i think a problem is that our players are not versatile (good but not versatile). They can be scouted..Scruggs has many moves and i love himbut they are kind of formulaic, dribble, dribble, spin left,spin right. I love the guy but he is a 2 guard and that type of action makes passing hard. Dwon is terriffic downhill so he is played off of..had 2 offensive fouls against Prov as Bynum denied him the last 2 feet. Zach is very formulaic and should never dribble more than 10 ft from the rim, goes for the hook and if you stand up, dont foul and he hits 40% you won. Colby kind of the same, Nate if in shot hunting. The only unpredictibable player is Kunkel and he is terrific but not quite good enough to be a primary option. This is offense..i could probably do the same on defense although we dont help at all or even get a foul going for a block. Other teams have unpredictable players (Rhoden, Champagne, Bynum, all of Villanova, Lewis(marq) who can make their own shot. Bynum beat us by himself by salvaging shots with 2 sec on the 24 clock. This is long post but something i have noticed.

UCGRAD4X
02-28-2022, 04:03 PM
I HATE those unis :loco:

X-band '01
02-28-2022, 04:19 PM
Why would Xavier wear yellow jerseys?!? Did we win in them last year at least?

They beat Creighton at home last year despite wearing jerseys that looked more like Pitt jerseys. Burn. them. now.

UCGRAD4X
02-28-2022, 04:39 PM
i think a problem is that our players are not versatile (good but not versatile). They can be scouted..Scruggs has many moves and i love himbut they are kind of formulaic, dribble, dribble, spin left,spin right. I love the guy but he is a 2 guard and that type of action makes passing hard. Dwon is terriffic downhill so he is played off of..had 2 offensive fouls against Prov as Bynum denied him the last 2 feet. Zach is very formulaic and should never dribble more than 10 ft from the rim, goes for the hook and if you stand up, dont foul and he hits 40% you won. Colby kind of the same, Nate if in shot hunting. The only unpredictibable player is Kunkel and he is terrific but not quite good enough to be a primary option. This is offense..i could probably do the same on defense although we dont help at all or even get a foul going for a block. Other teams have unpredictable players (Rhoden, Champagne, Bynum, all of Villanova, Lewis(marq) who can make their own shot. Bynum beat us by himself by salvaging shots with 2 sec on the 24 clock. This is long post but something i have noticed.

Can't find much of a hole in that argument. That would seem to explain what we have observed....over......and over.....and over again.

Maybe there is nothing the coaches can do?

SemajParlor
02-28-2022, 05:16 PM
Can't find much of a hole in that argument. That would seem to explain what we have observed....over......and over.....and over again.

Maybe there is nothing the coaches can do?

Recruiting more dynamic scorers would be a start.

SemajParlor
03-01-2022, 12:17 PM
Andy Mac reported on twitter that Nunge had a beer can thrown at him after the game when he was practicing Free Throws? Anyone have any details on this / witnessed this? I have a hard time believing this went down like it says... really hope it did not.

https://twitter.com/mm_andymac/status/1498688136095965186?s=20&t=LIbt3QJCTKpEoiJmv8yuOQ

X-band '01
03-01-2022, 12:24 PM
Wrong on so many levels. Nunge is at least showing some ownership trying to get some practice after the game and some thug throws the can at him afterwards? I hope they find who did this and prosecute the hell out of them.

Anger towards the team and coaches is never a green light for assault.

Xville
03-01-2022, 12:30 PM
Andy Mac reported on twitter that Nunge had a beer can thrown at him after the game when he was practicing Free Throws? Anyone have any details on this / witnessed this? I have a hard time believing this went down like it says... really hope it did not.

https://twitter.com/mm_andymac/status/1498688136095965186?s=20&t=LIbt3QJCTKpEoiJmv8yuOQ

Hope it wasn’t a Xavier fan and hoping it didn’t quite happen the way he is reporting.

D-West & PO-Z
03-01-2022, 12:30 PM
They beat Creighton at home last year despite wearing jerseys that looked more like Pitt jerseys. Burn. them. now.

That was a huge win late last year to stop some bleeding. Maybe that is why we are wearing them?

Of course I think we lost the next 2 after that game.

bjf123
03-01-2022, 12:32 PM
If you’re Jack Nunge and thinking about coming back next year, why the hell would you if you’re going to have beer cans thrown at you? If that really happened, the university needs to find out who it was, prosecute the hell out of them, and ban them from ever attending a Xavier function, sporting event or otherwise, again.


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UCGRAD4X
03-01-2022, 12:45 PM
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D-West & PO-Z
03-01-2022, 01:03 PM
Andy Mac reported on twitter that Nunge had a beer can thrown at him after the game when he was practicing Free Throws? Anyone have any details on this / witnessed this? I have a hard time believing this went down like it says... really hope it did not.

https://twitter.com/mm_andymac/status/1498688136095965186?s=20&t=LIbt3QJCTKpEoiJmv8yuOQ


Wrong on so many levels. Nunge is at least showing some ownership trying to get some practice after the game and some thug throws the can at him afterwards? I hope they find who did this and prosecute the hell out of them.

Anger towards the team and coaches is never a green light for assault.


Hope it wasn’t a Xavier fan and hoping it didn’t quite happen the way he is reporting.

So after the game Nunge came back out and shot FT's....you would think there would be almost no one left and the person would have been easily identified, right? I mean fans started leaving in mass with 4 mins left. By the time Nunge comes back out there has to be almost no one there.

GoMuskies
03-01-2022, 01:51 PM
Maybe Hunter threw the can at him. In which case Nunge was never at risk.

drudy23
03-02-2022, 07:42 PM
Andy Mac reported on twitter that Nunge had a beer can thrown at him after the game when he was practicing Free Throws? Anyone have any details on this / witnessed this? I have a hard time believing this went down like it says... really hope it did not.

https://twitter.com/mm_andymac/status/1498688136095965186?s=20&t=LIbt3QJCTKpEoiJmv8yuOQ

The last person that should have a beer thrown at him is Nunge.

Everyone should be buying him beer. Strong shoulders, that guy - been carrying us for much of the season.

Xavier
03-02-2022, 08:32 PM
I don’t know what to say anymore. Embarrassing, and we are on a path to consistently battling Butler, Georgetown and DePaul for the bottom tier of the league. That’s not an exaggeration, we are bad and with Steele at the helm we have no hope for next year to be different.

Xavier legitimately looks like a mid major team that got placed into the big East this year. Out matched in every way. It takes near perfect play to get wins.

Xuperman
03-04-2022, 04:42 AM
Looks like Butler on Wednesday. I think we could still draw DePaul, if they manage to get the W at UConn Saturday.

Xuperman
03-23-2022, 12:33 AM
Just realized Team 100 is now 13-1 OOC with a 16-1 very possible. Also interesting, a 5-1 record vs the P5 with 1 more possible.

And then there's the Big East Kryptonite and what could have been.