Sean Miller to UC ?

[GOX]

Cinicinnati Enquier contributing columnist Jay Brinker is pushing for UC to hire Sean Miller once the Brannen buyout is finalized. His theory is that absent a “ Show Cause Order” on Miller he is the best coach available and presumably UC is the best job Miller can get.

[GoMuskies]

If UC is going to force out Brannen, they'd be nuts not to at least explore the possibility.

[xavierj]

Cinicinnati Enquier contributing columnist Jay Brinker is pushing for UC to hire Sean Miller once the Brannen buyout is finalized. His theory is that absent a “ Show Cause Order” on Miller he is the best coach available and presumably UC is the best job Miller can get.

No way any college, especially UC can afford to do that. Chances are he will get a show cause at some point and if and when he does you have to start all over. Best thing to do is wait until the NCAA rules on it and then serve the punishment and get back in the college game. He will be coaching in the NBA next year. Also the Enquirer is clueless.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Miller is a tough guy to hire. If you do, you bring on the stain of Arizona's and specifically Book's issues. An NBA assistant's job is actually good for him. This worked for Sampson. That said, I am selfish and want him on our bench as an assistant which makes too much sense for all involved to actually happen.

[Xavier]

Sean will be an assistant in the NBA next year. Archie is possible though.

[cutterX]

The guy who wrote that is one of PDoc's bootlickers, UC fan and somewhat of a clown. I wouldn't put much faith in anything he floats out there.

[XU 87]

I would be very surprised if Miller doesn't get a show cause order for several years. Very serious allegations against him and his program, including Book paying someone 40k to falsify an incoming player's high school transcript so he would be eligible.

[Lamont Sanford]

Between the $5MM they are gonna have to fork over to Brannen and the fact that their athletic department is in the red already, they are not gonna be able to afford a top tier coach.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Cinicinnati Enquier contributing columnist Jay Brinker is pushing for UC to hire Sean Miller once the Brannen buyout is finalized. His theory is that absent a “ Show Cause Order” on Miller he is the best coach available and presumably UC is the best job Miller can get.

This. Would. Suck.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I would be very surprised if Miller doesn't get a show cause order for several years. Very serious allegations against him and his program, including Book paying someone 40k to falsify an incoming player's high school transcript so he would be eligible.

What makes Miller get a showcause and Self get a lifetime contract? And Will Wade is still employed as well?

[MADXSTER]

If UC is going to force out Brannen, they'd be nuts not to at least explore the possibility.

Now that would be funny. Oust Brannen for Just-Cause because he had too many minutes of practice time and Hire Miller.

[STL_XUfan]

What makes Miller get a showcause and Self get a lifetime contract? And Will Wade is still employed as well?

Self and Wade seem to know where enough of the school's skeletons are buried that they might have some leverage with a strategy of mutually assured destruction. With the Miller firing, doesn't seem like he has anything (or at least enough) to use against the school.

[XU 87]

What makes Miller get a showcause and Self get a lifetime contract? And Will Wade is still employed as well?

If I had to guess- Proof. They have Miller's assistant on tape talking about the 40k payment to falsify the transcript.

[D-West & PO-Z]

If I had to guess- Proof. They have Miller's assistant on tape talking about the 40k payment to falsify the transcript.

Don't they have Will Wade himself on tape??

[profson]

Cinicinnati Enquier contributing columnist Jay Brinker is pushing for UC to hire Sean Miller once the Brannen buyout is finalized. His theory is that absent a “ Show Cause Order” on Miller he is the best coach available and presumably UC is the best job Miiller can get.

A little common sense. No AD (or lawyer thereto) who has bought a just cause lawsuit that may be borderline at best would hire a replacement who has more serious allegations against him. Screams expediency and Brannen’s lawyer would eviscerate UC.

[GOX]

A little common sense. No AD (or lawyer thereto) who has bought a just cause lawsuit that may be borderline at best would hire a replacement who has more serious allegations against him. Screams expediency and Brannen’s lawyer would eviscerate UC.
The latest is UC terminated Brannen this afternoon. Presumably Brannen would not accept a termination payment of less than the $ 5 M .
So the termination is implicitly “ for Cause” which is a stretch since the only anonymous player allegations talk about “ insensitivity” and other nebulous allegations. UC is totally mismanaging the situation. They don’t want to pay him the $5M and Will end up paying something close to that , and for that differential they are putting the program at risk. They had to terminate him to avoid looking for a new coach while he was under contract ( not that third parties have not front-running) . They can now hire a new coach and deal with Brannen separately.

[xudash]

A little common sense. No AD (or lawyer thereto) who has bought a just cause lawsuit that may be borderline at best would hire a replacement who has more serious allegations against him. Screams expediency and Brannen’s lawyer would eviscerate UC.

Great point.

[Muskie in dayton]

Can we hire Brannen? It would be a marked upgrade.

[Olsingledigit]

Can we hire Brannen? It would be a marked upgrade.

BS comment buddy. You have been in Dayton too long.

[Muskie in dayton]

BS comment buddy. You have been in Dayton too long.
Those with more than one digit realize we missed the NCAA tournament 3 years in a row.

[xavierj]

Can we hire Brannen? It would be a marked upgrade.

Considering Brannen is 0-11 against Xavier as a head coach and an assistant and 0-2 against Travis, as well as having more losses to teams not in a quad 1 or 2 in one year than Travis has in three, doesn’t scream upgrade. John Brannen is not a good coach and sounds like a major prick to play for. Yeah that would be a disaster. I think UC realized they needed him out ASAP to try to save the program from becoming East Carolina.

[Muskie in dayton]

Considering Brannen is 0-11 against Xavier as a head coach and an assistant and 0-2 against Travis, as well as having more losses to teams not in a quad 1 or 2 in one year than Travis has in three, doesn’t scream upgrade. John Brannen is not a good coach and sounds like a major prick to play for. Yeah that would be a disaster. I think UC realized they needed him out ASAP to try to save the program from becoming East Carolina.
3 years of garbage.

[xavierj]

3 years of garbage.

So you want to replace with worse garbage?

[Xavier]

He must have been one of the posters who thought X missed out on Brannen or something.

[UCGRAD4X]

3 years of garbage.

sounds vaguely familiar

[D-West & PO-Z]

I’m not sold on Steele, he has a big year upcoming, but suggesting Brannen would be an upgrade is interesting to say the least.

[BigMoeMusketeer]

Sean to UC is a silly idea on a bunch of levels. Sean is a great guy who did dumb things and will have to pay for those. A shame. He is the best coach in Xavier's history and those tap-dancing on his firing are, to say the least, interesting.

Archie to UC has been way-overblown, and I'd be beyond shocked if that is the way they go. Cunningham is a bit of a wild-card, for sure, and no one is more desperate to get this hire right and ease a lot of the "this was so poorly handled" comments out there (and it was truly SO POORLY HANDLED) than he is, but I will be blown away if Archie is the guy.

If I had to bet an amount of money that mattered on 4/12 on who UC hires, I'd put it on Erik Martin. Is that Cunningham's 1st choice...NO. Is he the 1st choice of many on the Board of Trustees (who are hanging onto Cunningham by a fine thread), YES. I believe the latter outweighs the former and Erik gets the job. I also believe, with time, he will do a good job for them.

[xavierj]

Sean to UC is a silly idea on a bunch of levels. Sean is a great guy who did dumb things and will have to pay for those. A shame. He is the best coach in Xavier's history and those tap-dancing on his firing are, to say the least, interesting.

Archie to UC has been way-overblown, and I'd be beyond shocked if that is the way they go. Cunningham is a bit of a wild-card, for sure, and no one is more desperate to get this hire right and ease a lot of the "this was so poorly handled" comments out there (and it was truly SO POORLY HANDLED) than he is, but I will be blown away if Archie is the guy.

If I had to bet an amount of money that mattered on 4/12 on who UC hires, I'd put it on Erik Martin. Is that Cunningham's 1st choice...NO. Is he the 1st choice of many on the Board of Trustees (who are hanging onto Cunningham by a fine thread), YES. I believe the latter outweighs the former and Erik gets the job. I also believe, with time, he will do a good job for them.

If I had to guess they will go with the Tang from Baylor or Gates from Cleveland State, if not Martin. If they do not go with a former UC player they will go with an African American coach.

[markchal]

How could UC get rid of Brannen after only 3 years?? They must not have heard the infamous stats about Coach Ks first 3 years at Duke, and his subsequent success

[Muskie]

I'd be very surprised if either of the Miller Bros ends up at UC on their bench. It does not make sense for Sean Miller at all in my opinion. Maybe more so for Archie. But i'd still be surprised based on what has been reported about UC's athletic department financial situation.

[boozehound]

I’m not sold on Steele, he has a big year upcoming, but suggesting Brannen would be an upgrade is interesting to say the least.

I agree completely. The UC situation is a hot mess, but one thing that seems to be almost indisputably true is that he lost the locker room in a big way. I'm interested to see the outcome of the 'investigation' and all signs seem to point to it being unlikely that he was legitimately fired 'with cause', but it certainly seems like things were not going well. At all.

Also - is anybody else shocked that Brannen had a $5MM buyout? That seems like a lot for a coach with his resume.

[BigMoeMusketeer]

How could UC get rid of Brannen after only 3 years?? They must not have heard the infamous stats about Coach Ks first 3 years at Duke, and his subsequent success

Got rid of him after 2...one was a Conference Championship. Brannen got railroaded, there are no 2 ways about it. That deal is going to get VERY MESSY when it goes to court because he is going to fight for every penny he is owed in his contract...which he should.

[BigMoeMusketeer]

Is anybody else shocked that Brannen had a $5MM buyout?

After only two years of his contract? No. That number isn't out of whack at all, it is about the program more so than the coach's resume. If he was good enough to hire, he is good enough to pay fairly and at a commensurate level with the programs you want to look and act like.

[paulxu]

How could UC get rid of Brannen after only 3 years?? They must not have heard the infamous stats about Coach Ks first 3 years at Duke, and his subsequent success

I understand that people think that is a crazy comparison.
But K had 5 years as a head coach at Army before coming to Duke.
He had 3 tough years at Duke (who had been to the National Championship game only a couple years before he came) before he made it back to the NCAA's.
Guess I'm in the camp of giving an assistant promoted to his first head coaching job a little more slack than others.
(whether we should have promoted an assistant is another question, but it had worked in the past)

[bleedXblue]

Miller is going to lay low for a little while. It would be a smart move on his part. Let the scandal (or perception) settle down some. The reality is that coaches get 2nd chances all the time in CBB. Sampson, Pearl are perfect examples. Sean will have his pick of several good jobs, in due time.

I really see 0% chance of him even considering UC.

[xukeith]

I guess the trend in college basketball over the past 5-7 years his to hire past players.
I only remember VanExel and Martin from playing days at UC.
I guess Martin has been a good assistant for Huggs and West Virginia.

I never thought Brannen was a bad coach. He did get the players to win most recently in their AAC tourney.

If you hate a coach, why play hard? They still played well.

[xavierj]

I guess the trend in college basketball over the past 5-7 years his to hire past players.
I only remember VanExel and Martin from playing days at UC.
I guess Martin has been a good assistant for Huggs and West Virginia.

I never thought Brannen was a bad coach. He did get the players to win most recently in their AAC tourney.

If you hate a coach, why play hard? They still played well.

You play hard and well in spite of the coach so you can get out and go somewhere else.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Erik Martin has never even been a number 2 assistant under Huggins right? Maybe that doesnt matter much?

Van Exel, from what I understand can't be head coach bc he doesnt have his degree.

[MADXSTER]

But it would be fun if they decided to coach together at some small school for the hell of it. Say like Fordham or somewhere and just have fun. Archie HC and Sean asst. I would love to watch that play out.

[MHettel]

Van Exel, from what I understand can't be head coach bc he doesnt have his degree.

High School, or College?

[BigMoeMusketeer]

High School, or College?

Doesn't have his college degree, although he is working on it and isn't far from finishing.

[UCGRAD4X]

High School, or College?

UC - what's the difference?

[GIMMFD]

Erik Martin has never even been a number 2 assistant under Huggins right? Maybe that doesnt matter much?

Van Exel, from what I understand can't be head coach bc he doesnt have his degree.

Nope, Larry Harrison has been the #2 from when Huggins time started at WVU from what I remember. Don't think it matters much, though Erik Martin has been tenured at with Huggins about as long as Harrison.

[D-West & PO-Z]

High School, or College?

Ha, college, although since played for Huggins in the 90's, one could guess he may have not had his high school degree either.