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paulxu
02-26-2021, 07:48 AM
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THE MATCHUP

XAVIER UNIVERSITY MUSKETEERS (12-5, 5-5 BIG EAST)
NO. 13/11 CREIGHTON UNIVERSITY BLUEJAYS (17-5, 13-4 BIG EAST)
SATURDAY, FEB. 27, 2021 AT 5:00 P.M. ET
CINTAS CENTER IN CINCINNATI, OHIO

TV, RADIO & LIVE STATS

Television: FOX national, including FOX 19 in Cincinnati, with play-by-play from Kevin Kugler and analysis from Nick Bahe.
Radio: 700 WLW-AM with play-by-play from XU Hall of Famer Joe Sunderman ('79) and analysis from XU Hall of Famer and all-time leading scorer Byron Larkin ('88). XU broadcast also available on Sirius XM channel 382 and internet 972.
Live Stats: Media stats at Statbroadcast.com and fan stats at GoXavier.com.

Xville
02-26-2021, 09:34 AM
If Steele comes out with the same lineup and game plan...put the mortgage on creighton

paulxu
02-26-2021, 09:46 AM
The game is Senior Night.
Our seniors are Jason Carter, Bryan Griffin, Nate Johnson and Paul Scruggs.
I guess each could come back next year with the Covid exception.
Will any of them return?

markchal
02-26-2021, 11:14 AM
Not sure there's any way we remain competitive in this without Johnson, hope he's good to go

Nigel Tufnel
02-26-2021, 01:56 PM
Not sure there's any way we remain competitive in this without Johnson, hope he's good to go

A poster on the scout message board said he spoke with a friend in the AD and was told Johnson is done for the year. If true, very bad news for X.

GoMuskies
02-26-2021, 02:47 PM
No biggie. It's not like this team has any issues putting the ball in the basket from behind the arc. We're scorching it at a hair over 20% the last three games!

xudash
02-26-2021, 04:21 PM
A poster on the scout message board said he spoke with a friend in the AD and was told Johnson is done for the year. If true, very bad news for X.

Do we know what and when it happened.

UCGRAD4X
02-26-2021, 04:27 PM
A poster on the scout message board said he spoke with a friend in the AD and was told Johnson is done for the year. If true, very bad news for X.

At this point 'for the year' may not be a very long time.

Xville
02-26-2021, 08:03 PM
Creighton -4.5 at least I’ll make some money off our coach.

xavierj
02-26-2021, 09:05 PM
Creighton -4.5 at least I’ll make some money off our coach.

Yep. Started at -7. People are crazy

AviatorX
02-26-2021, 09:43 PM
Creighton -4.5 at least I’ll make some money off our coach.

Just locked up the X win!

Strange Brew
02-26-2021, 09:56 PM
No biggie. It's not like this team has any issues putting the ball in the basket from behind the arc. We're scorching it at a hair over 20% the last three games!

So X is due right? Law of averages or something? Please tell me it will improve.

drudy23
02-26-2021, 09:59 PM
If they're going to pick a game to win, let it be this one.

xu82
02-26-2021, 10:34 PM
If they're going to pick a game to win, let it be this one.

YES! Every next game is the best game to win!

HenryMuto
02-27-2021, 11:30 AM
The #1 ranked guy on bracket matrix has Xavier at 69 the first team out. Really need to pull the upset today otherwise things are going to look dicey without a long conf tournament run.

https://bracketville.wordpress.com/s-curve/

whopper
02-27-2021, 02:21 PM
nate Johnson out rest of the year according to Twitter..Honestly we will see how Tandy and Kunkel with do with major minutes and it will tell a lot about next year. We need to get something out of the 4 slot and lets hope that we rotate players in and out..and Zach stays out of foul trouble. This is a tough ask but stranger things have happened. I am at the point where I assume Colby will hold down the 3 slot. Zach has been stuffed TWICE by Ballock over the past 2 years and that can't happen today if we have a chance.

markchal
02-27-2021, 02:24 PM
If it’s anything like last game, neither kunkel or Tandy will be a factor, it just means a lot more Odom

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 03:50 PM
If it’s anything like last game, neither kunkel or Tandy will be a factor, it just means a lot more Odom

I'm ok with more Odom, but at the expense of Carter and Kunk not Jelly Roll.

XUOWNSUC
02-27-2021, 04:13 PM
I hope BigEastCollusion is real.

coasterville95
02-27-2021, 04:24 PM
I need help with this one - why is the XU logo in orange?

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coasterville95
02-27-2021, 04:55 PM
For those wondering - the senior day pre snow went as normal

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Lloyd Braun
02-27-2021, 05:03 PM
Some late money on X. Must be the yellow.

chico
02-27-2021, 05:08 PM
I'm watching Fox but for some reason UCLA is on.

KabeX
02-27-2021, 05:08 PM
My gawd those are ugly unis

chico
02-27-2021, 05:09 PM
Announcer stole my line.

bjf123
02-27-2021, 05:09 PM
Holy shit. We made a 3!


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Xville
02-27-2021, 05:12 PM
Carter starting lineup....going big on creighton.

xu82
02-27-2021, 05:15 PM
My gawd those are ugly unis

Gotta keep wearing them if we win!

xuphan
02-27-2021, 05:16 PM
Gotta keep wearing them if we win!

Hopefully Steele channels his inner John Wooden with those unis

Lloyd Braun
02-27-2021, 05:17 PM
I have been a Carter defender for the most part but it’s getting tough. He should stay at center straight away 3 region. It’s his highest % and keeps him out of getting in the way.

KabeX
02-27-2021, 05:17 PM
Gotta keep wearing them if we win!
I, of course, was thinking the same thing.

noteggs
02-27-2021, 05:20 PM
Man what a moving pick by Creighton

xuphan
02-27-2021, 05:23 PM
Man what a moving pick by Creighton

Good start from Scruggs so far.

bjf123
02-27-2021, 05:23 PM
Man what a moving pick by Creighton

Nothing new. They’re masters at getting away with moving picks.


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UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 05:24 PM
Those unis! I keep forgetting who to root for. I called Scruggs for a walk and then said, "um...nevermind."

IM4X
02-27-2021, 05:24 PM
So frustrating to see no bigs near the basket on offense after a guard shoots. This is crazy. Gotta crash the boards boys.

KabeX
02-27-2021, 05:26 PM
Stats pretty even thus far. That is except for moving screens - CU way up in that category.

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 05:27 PM
even the announcer criticizing kyky early 3 att

xu82
02-27-2021, 05:28 PM
even the announcer criticizing kyky early 3 att

He just didn’t want to be left out.....

XfansinKy
02-27-2021, 05:29 PM
Those unis! I keep forgetting who to root for. I called Scruggs for a walk and then said, "um...nevermind."

Me too. I thought Griffin played for Creighton for a second

IM4X
02-27-2021, 05:30 PM
Like this lineup. Quick.

XfansinKy
02-27-2021, 05:30 PM
KyKy is playing solid.

xuphan
02-27-2021, 05:30 PM
He just didn’t want to be left out.....

Good run X. Keep it up!

Strange Brew
02-27-2021, 05:30 PM
Nice pass KyKy. Thought he was going to jack that one up.

X Factor
02-27-2021, 05:31 PM
Play the young guys!!!

xavierj
02-27-2021, 05:31 PM
Yep. Amazing what you can do with some skill on the floor.

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 05:31 PM
time to get a better grip

xavierj
02-27-2021, 05:33 PM
Need Paul to pass the ball.

Xville
02-27-2021, 05:34 PM
Geee a lineup I have said to use for three games now...effing amazing. I’ll coach Xavier for about 250k

Strange Brew
02-27-2021, 05:34 PM
Geee a lineup I have said to use for three games now...effing amazing. I’ll coach Xavier for about 250k

Odds Carter back on the floor after the break?

xavierj
02-27-2021, 05:35 PM
Geee a lineup I have said to use for three games now...effing amazing. I’ll coach Xavier for about 250k

Yes and no drip off on defense.

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 05:35 PM
Odom can't be taking that shot. Unless he setting them up to clear the lane a bit. :lmao:

KabeX
02-27-2021, 05:35 PM
I know Odom had to shoot that but WTH is up with that shooting motion? Ugly.

KabeX
02-27-2021, 05:36 PM
Odds Carter back on the floor after the break?
C'mon. I'm trying to enjoy this lead while it lasts.

xavierj
02-27-2021, 05:37 PM
Odds Carter back on the floor after the break?

Probably high. And he is not needed. Xavier up 5 on the boards and guards are rebounding. Defense fine too.

bjf123
02-27-2021, 05:38 PM
We’ve made more threes so far is this game than we did the entire game against Butler.


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Strange Brew
02-27-2021, 05:39 PM
Classic Omaha oop!

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 05:39 PM
Stop Odom Stop!

Strange Brew
02-27-2021, 05:40 PM
Nice D Carter.

Xville
02-27-2021, 05:41 PM
Why is carter in the game? Good gawd Steele...you can’t help yourself can you

IM4X
02-27-2021, 05:41 PM
Carter goes in and they go on a run

xuphan
02-27-2021, 05:41 PM
Nice D Carter.

Smh

Strange Brew
02-27-2021, 05:42 PM
Carter in. Lead gone.

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 05:42 PM
So much for getting a better grip.

Odom taking 3s.

Carter with the ole defense.

Carter not recognizing the double team.

C'mon guys!

KabeX
02-27-2021, 05:42 PM
Now - odds that Carter is still in after the break?

XfansinKy
02-27-2021, 05:43 PM
Carter looks so out of place

noteggs
02-27-2021, 05:43 PM
Now - odds that Carter is still in after the break?

99.9%

drudy23
02-27-2021, 05:43 PM
I don't need to comment on Carter - it's too obvious.

xavierj
02-27-2021, 05:44 PM
Now - odds that Carter is still in after the break?

Probably and Tandy probably out. I would get Wilcher back in for Carter.

drudy23
02-27-2021, 05:44 PM
99.9%

99.999999999%

XUBob
02-27-2021, 05:44 PM
Gave up a lead which this team does all too often, but, I thought Odom got fouled on both his attempts and Z for Creighton lowers his shoulder on every drive. All in all better play, let’s see how the half plays out.

KabeX
02-27-2021, 05:44 PM
99.9%
Easy Money

Xville
02-27-2021, 05:45 PM
Oh good kunkel In too...guess Steele wants creighton to get a nice big lead

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 05:45 PM
Free makes a three - now he's in love with it

xu82
02-27-2021, 05:46 PM
I know Odom had to shoot that but WTH is up with that shooting motion? Ugly.

It has kind of a middle school look to it, like the ball os too heavy to shoot from that far away.....so I gotta get it there any way I can.

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 05:46 PM
Can we see maybe a mid range game?

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 05:48 PM
Kunkel misses a three - run out three for Creighton

xu82
02-27-2021, 05:49 PM
Can we see maybe a mid range game?

That is so passé. What’s next, underhanded free throws? Peach baskets???

Xville
02-27-2021, 05:50 PM
Gotta say overall team looks so much better...more energy, more hustle

xuphan
02-27-2021, 05:51 PM
Gotta say overall team looks so much better...more energy, more hustle

I agree. Hopefully this continues in the second half.

xavierj
02-27-2021, 05:51 PM
Good half. Less Carter and more Tandy/Wilcher in the 2nd half please.

drudy23
02-27-2021, 05:52 PM
Gotta hold on in the 2nd half. Desperately need this one.

Steele has to put some trust in some new guys to make plays. Second wave played well.

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 05:52 PM
That is so passé. What’s next, underhanded free throws? Peach baskets???

I think Scruggs, CoJo and Odom all have that in them. Just now and then. Better than missing 3s or getting drives blocked cause everybody knows and the lane is clogged.

xu82
02-27-2021, 05:52 PM
In these crazy Covid times, I think we should get the kids back into the safety of quarantine and call this a game. X wins, have a safe trip home.

noteggs
02-27-2021, 05:53 PM
It has kind of a middle school look to it, like the ball os too heavy to shoot from that far away.....so I gotta get it there any way I can.

Not to mention it takes him a half hour to get it off

XfansinKy
02-27-2021, 05:54 PM
Travis must not like KyKy. He doesn't really give him an opportunity anymore. Hope it doesn't mess his head up.

Strange Brew
02-27-2021, 05:55 PM
Does Carter start the 2nd?

xavierj
02-27-2021, 05:55 PM
Not to mention it takes him a half hour to get it off

On one of his threes he should have jetted a quick pass to Tandy who was wide open in the corner.

xavierj
02-27-2021, 05:56 PM
Does Carter start the 2nd?

100%

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 05:57 PM
Does Carter start the 2nd?

I recognized sarcasm font when I see it.

paulxu
02-27-2021, 05:58 PM
I thought some of the defensive pressure when Carter was not in was working very well.
Then a 9-0 run in 2 minutes when I think he came back in. There's a lesson there somewhere.

xudash
02-27-2021, 05:58 PM
Good half. Less Carter and more Tandy/Wilcher in the 2nd half please.

Wouldn’t that be nice.

paulxu
02-27-2021, 05:59 PM
Also, being up at the half instead of down the usual 10-12 we have to catch up, is refreshing.

chico
02-27-2021, 06:08 PM
Like the energy on defense and the discipline on offense. I'm sure Creighton will make some adjustments to counter us defending the 3 so much. Just hope we can keep our wits and keep the energy up because Creighton can score in an instant if you let them.

KabeX
02-27-2021, 06:10 PM
Not sure how that was a charge but great D by our boy Carter (end sarcasm font)

IM4X
02-27-2021, 06:10 PM
Coach needs to make it this simple about who shoots 3s:

Wilcher: whenever he wants

Scruggs, Kyky. Kunkel and Free: green light after working ball around and if they have a good look

Jones and Odom: only rarely

if they have a good looks and have been making other shots

Griffin and Carter: never ever ever

KabeX
02-27-2021, 06:11 PM
Not sure how that was a charge but great D by our boy Carter (end sarcasm font)
Ditto for our guys. BS. C'mon zebras

IM4X
02-27-2021, 06:12 PM
Jones is going to be a stud

Edit: Is a stud!

paulxu
02-27-2021, 06:13 PM
Way to go Colby!

AviatorX
02-27-2021, 06:13 PM
The last 4 minutes version of Carter is what he’s supposed to bring to this team.

noteggs
02-27-2021, 06:13 PM
Jones is going to be a stud

Edit: Is a stud!

Agree and think all 3 freshmen look damn good!

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 06:15 PM
What's Trav going to draw up this to

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 06:16 PM
Or this t.o.

xudash
02-27-2021, 06:18 PM
Damn travel.

The momentum is there for ours to grab. Keep up the intensity

xu82
02-27-2021, 06:21 PM
Agree and think all 3 freshmen look damn good!

One reason I’d like to see some continuity. That, and continuity usually comes with SUCCESS!

AviatorX
02-27-2021, 06:25 PM
This is such a vintage Creighton team. No chance they’re a real threat in March.

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 06:27 PM
Our defense needs to tighten up like it was in 1st half. Kind of helter-skelter. Miss-matches, chasing and too many open looks.

xavierj
02-27-2021, 06:27 PM
Do any teams have an off night against Xavier? Creighton is hitting nearly 43% from three and has hit a few tough ones. Need to keep making shots and continue to rebound. Winning the boards by a good margin so far.

xu82
02-27-2021, 06:30 PM
Is it Freemantles fault if the 7 footer is clumsy?

xu82
02-27-2021, 06:31 PM
The next 10 minutes may decide this season. No big deal.....

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 06:32 PM
Is it Freemantles fault if the 7 footer is clumsy?

Apparently so.

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 06:33 PM
Tandy miss. Run out 3.

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 06:34 PM
Does Kyky know how to get to the rim?

KabeX
02-27-2021, 06:34 PM
Tandy miss. Run out 3.
And what are the odds that Tandy is on the bench after the break?

xudash
02-27-2021, 06:34 PM
Tandy miss. Run out 3.

I love the kid, too. But he hast to perform. He hast to make the shots. It’s that simple.

Xville
02-27-2021, 06:34 PM
And what are the odds that Tandy is on the bench after the break?

100 with carter back in

paulxu
02-27-2021, 06:35 PM
Does every team shoot 40% from beyond the arc against us?

Love Colby driving into the lane, drawing 2 and slipping it to Free for the easy basket.

xavierj
02-27-2021, 06:35 PM
Awful call

KabeX
02-27-2021, 06:37 PM
Looks like my 6th grade game - hey whose keeping the book?

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 06:37 PM
2nd half fouls 7 to 2....or maybe 6...who knows


and 1/2 of them total BS

just saying

paulxu
02-27-2021, 06:38 PM
They're in the bonus and were not. Will be a long game.

paulxu
02-27-2021, 06:40 PM
They may drive to the hoop every possession.

xavierj
02-27-2021, 06:41 PM
Zach getting abused

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 06:41 PM
There's that midrange

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 06:42 PM
Double bonus next foul.

2 on them

xavierj
02-27-2021, 06:42 PM
WTF. Different whistles for different teams and a totally different whistle than the first half.

Xville
02-27-2021, 06:44 PM
Scruggs is a man possessed!!

paulxu
02-27-2021, 06:45 PM
What a horseshit call.

xu82
02-27-2021, 06:45 PM
Small crowd getting LOUD after a TERRIBLE call!

xavierj
02-27-2021, 06:45 PM
Total BS

KabeX
02-27-2021, 06:45 PM
Worst call of the game so far. And that's saying something.

paulxu
02-27-2021, 06:47 PM
Come on guys...don't let this slip away.

xavierj
02-27-2021, 06:47 PM
Here it comes

xavierj
02-27-2021, 06:48 PM
Damn. Up 13 to 4 in a second

xudash
02-27-2021, 06:49 PM
Play through it.

Score.

A stop.

Score again.

xu82
02-27-2021, 06:49 PM
They wanted to make it entertaining????

whopper
02-27-2021, 06:50 PM
i am just praying, the only way out is through it. I feel so much for these guys..damn

xu82
02-27-2021, 06:50 PM
Play through it.

Score.

A stop.

Score again.

This sounds like a terrific recipe!

HenryMuto
02-27-2021, 06:51 PM
Had a 13 point lead 2 minutes ago

noteggs
02-27-2021, 06:51 PM
Typical Greg in the ear. Foul discrepancy is BS!

XfansinKy
02-27-2021, 06:51 PM
Carter and Kunkel substitutions have produced an 18-0 run for Creighton. That's gonna be tough

paulxu
02-27-2021, 06:52 PM
Do we have 69 or 70?

xu82
02-27-2021, 06:54 PM
Pass to Odom for the easy 2 points.

HenryMuto
02-27-2021, 06:54 PM
Layup in and out then a 3 in and out

FAWK

KabeX
02-27-2021, 06:54 PM
His foot was on the line

xuphan
02-27-2021, 06:54 PM
Pass to Odom for the easy 2 points.

Come on Kunkel

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 06:55 PM
Good thing that was a two cause Odom can't make a three

HenryMuto
02-27-2021, 06:55 PM
Good god Scruggs WTF the game was over run the clock FAWK

xu82
02-27-2021, 06:56 PM
Carter and Kunkel substitutions have produced an 18-0 run for Creighton. That's gonna be tough

Kunkel just scored when we needed it desperately.

Xville
02-27-2021, 06:56 PM
Wow!!! Odom is so good.

xu82
02-27-2021, 06:57 PM
Are they adding sound like the NFL? How many in Cintas?

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 06:57 PM
Play through it.

Score.

A stop.

Score again.

Lather

Rinse

Repeat

HenryMuto
02-27-2021, 06:57 PM
Why don't they do the all 5 guys start out of bounds and run in bounds play that always works to get it in.

FAWK no TIMEOUTS LEFT

UMM YES YOU CAN RUN THE BASELINE EVEN WITH A TIMEOUT U DUMB ANNOUNCER

xudash
02-27-2021, 06:57 PM
Why, Paul? Why?

Okay, let’s close it out.

xuphan
02-27-2021, 06:58 PM
Wow!!! Odom is so good.

Ugh, out of timeouts now.

paulxu
02-27-2021, 06:58 PM
Hate to see our last time out used on failure to inbound.

Come on X!

HenryMuto
02-27-2021, 06:59 PM
So they do the football play I was talking about and of course they still can't get it in..............

HenryMuto
02-27-2021, 07:00 PM
I missed most of this game how did Creighton only have 2 fouls in the first 17 mins of the 2nd half ?

HenryMuto
02-27-2021, 07:00 PM
DAGGER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

X is back in the field as of today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Need to at least split the last 2

xu82
02-27-2021, 07:01 PM
OK, eventually making FT’s ........never mind. GO FREE!!!

Oh yeah, FT’s will matter.....

KabeX
02-27-2021, 07:01 PM
Boo yah!

Xville
02-27-2021, 07:01 PM
Huge huge huge win!!!! Play the four out 1 in more and more.

xuphan
02-27-2021, 07:01 PM
DAGGER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

X is back in the field as of today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Need to at least split the last 2

Good bounce back win. Need to keep this momentum the rest of the season.

whopper
02-27-2021, 07:03 PM
i could not be happier for everybody on senior night. Remember last year against Butler with Baldwin on senior night.. Just looked at box last year and Carter had 17! Man where did that go. Also Tandy 10. Shows how a year changes things. Griffin 4 points, Tandy 2 reb, CJ a 3. Carter a decent floor game. Odom incredible. Colby very solid, Zach a force and floater going, Scruggs magnificent(except the last play..but we will take it). 21 assists and 10 turnovers!I will sleep well tonight

KabeX
02-27-2021, 07:05 PM
PAUL F. SCRUGGS. Man we're gonna miss you.

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 07:05 PM
Wow. Just wow.

"Momentum is just one game away"

What does that even mean?

xavierj
02-27-2021, 07:06 PM
Big win and much needed. Liked the rotations better and defense didn’t get hurt with Carter not always on the floor. Odom played a game. Have Zegorowski fits to go along with 12 points, 3 boards, 4 assists, 1 TO, 2 steals and 2 big blocks.

chico
02-27-2021, 07:06 PM
Great win! They keep that intensity and they can do some damage in March.

Xavier
02-27-2021, 07:06 PM
Man. What a sr night for Scruggs. Must win against top 15 team and he led the team (at least in the first half). Great stuff

Xville
02-27-2021, 07:06 PM
Hell yeah Paul...play like that the rest of the season buddy!!!!

HenryMuto
02-27-2021, 07:06 PM
Would be great to win the last 2 that would pretty much lock up a bid but must at least split which won't be easy especially with some fans now being allowed in.

I can't recall earlier this year were fans allowed in like today for Xavier home games ?

GoMuskies
02-27-2021, 07:07 PM
My online betting account says I saw this coming, but I definitely did not. Beauty.

noteggs
02-27-2021, 07:08 PM
Big win and much needed. Liked the rotations better and defense didn’t get hurt with Carter not always on the floor. Odom played a game. Have Zegorowski fits to go along with 12 points, 3 boards, 4 assists, 1 TO, 2 steals and 2 big blocks.

Yes. Odom made huge strides today!

UCGRAD4X
02-27-2021, 07:12 PM
Carter actually played some good D (and some bad).

I think Carter might play better with fewer minutes - and the rest of the team as well.

XU_Lou
02-27-2021, 07:15 PM
Yea, it's pretty amazing what a few practices and regaining fitness levels again can do for a team...

whopper
02-27-2021, 07:32 PM
odom and jones have very clean economical games and are fundamentally off the charts, Odom in the lane seems to be able to get his shot off at will

whopper
02-27-2021, 07:32 PM
i thought last year James would take 8-10 min a game from Carter and all would have been better for it. I like Carter and so glad he had a win and a good floor game

xavierj
02-27-2021, 07:42 PM
odom and jones have very clean economical games and are fundamentally off the charts, Odom in the lane seems to be able to get his shot off at will

Yes Odom is so athletic he can get his shot off at the rim anytime. He jumps higher than the bigs trying to block his shot. He is going to be money during his career getting in the lane and also finding the open man.

IM4X
02-27-2021, 07:42 PM
Carter actually played some good D (and some bad).

I think Carter might play better with fewer minutes - and the rest of the team as well.

Yup- he does. Posted that exact thought after last game saying he need to be in 4/5 and out for 4/5 minutes to get the best out of him- any stretches longer and he either starts making big mistakes or gets exposed... and because he is not a scorer - we ae basically playing 4 on 5.

stammina0721
02-27-2021, 07:44 PM
Would be great to win the last 2 that would pretty much lock up a bid but must at least split which won't be easy especially with some fans now being allowed in.

I can't recall earlier this year were fans allowed in like today for Xavier home games ?

This has to be the most weak and soft post I've ever seen. You are worried about some fans being in a game? If X is so weak they can't handle fractional capacity to win a road game they don't deserve to be in the tourney. Dude, are you serious?

IM4X
02-27-2021, 07:50 PM
odom and jones have very clean economical games and are fundamentally off the charts, Odom in the lane seems to be able to get his shot off at will

Yes - very good games by both and very promising for the future. You could just see the confidence from Scruggs spilling right into those two. Odom has stepped up and is 100% ready to take over and run the offense next year. Odom and Jones both had terrific blocks which you love to see from freshman- young ones being the bullies instead of being bullied.

D-West & PO-Z
02-27-2021, 07:53 PM
Let’s go!!!!! Huge win. Huge senior night by scruggs. Almost everyone played well, we played really good D and looked really good offensively. Second best performance of the season after OU but maybe even better considering the weight of the game and what was riding on it. Everyone stepped up to the plate. And Colby and Dwon are going to be awesome.

XUBob
02-27-2021, 07:54 PM
I’m one of the first to criticize but I will also commend. I thought this was one of Travis’ best coached games. For the first time in a while it looked like they had a plan on both sides of the ball. Even in the first half when Creighton erased a nine point lead it had a different feel. I thought two non calls on Odom drives were bad and I didn’t see guys just jacking up bad shots. Clock management was good for the most part, possessions didn’t seem to be a helter skelter. Now, the key is can this be repeated, it should be but the jury is still out on that. A friend of mine asked me after the game, “ are you back on the Travis train ?” My answer is not yet. Performances like this must become a constant. Saw some growth today , hope it continues.

Xville
02-27-2021, 08:25 PM
Yep I have been criticizing Steele up and down the last few weeks, but I will say, he finally made some adjustments and they worked. Hope this is the beginning of a new promising era.

HenryMuto
02-27-2021, 08:40 PM
This has to be the most weak and soft post I've ever seen. You are worried about some fans being in a game? If X is so weak they can't handle fractional capacity to win a road game they don't deserve to be in the tourney. Dude, are you serious?

Uh not sure if you followed Xavier this year but they have not been very good in road games. Lost at Creighton, Saint John's and Providence. This may have been with 0 fans in the building. If there are 0 fans or 10,000 it don't matter Xavier has a hard time winning on the road not sure why you can't comprehend this.

Did they just get smoked at a .500 Providence team ? Yep.

Well they did beat an awful Butler team on the road and an awful Cincy team on the road.

So thanks for your post so I could explain to you that winning at G'Town and Marquette won't be easy even if 0 fans are there.

jhelmes37
02-27-2021, 09:05 PM
I’m one of the first to criticize but I will also commend. I thought this was one of Travis’ best coached games. For the first time in a while it looked like they had a plan on both sides of the ball. Even in the first half when Creighton erased a nine point lead it had a different feel. I thought two non calls on Odom drives were bad and I didn’t see guys just jacking up bad shots. Clock management was good for the most part, possessions didn’t seem to be a helter skelter. Now, the key is can this be repeated, it should be but the jury is still out on that. A friend of mine asked me after the game, “ are you back on the Travis train ?” My answer is not yet. Performances like this must become a constant. Saw some growth today , hope it continues.

You basically just said, “Travis needs to have the best game of his coaching career every night.”

I agree that tonight was fantastic, but perhaps it was because the players executed everything the coaches threw at them.

I know everyone wants to blame the coaches, but often times, the players on the court decide the outcome of the game.

JTG
02-27-2021, 09:26 PM
That does it, we wear those semi-ugly jerseys the rest of the way. They're magic ��.

xu82
02-27-2021, 09:32 PM
That does it, we wear those semi-ugly jerseys the rest of the way. They're magic ��.

You get no argument from me....other than “semi”. But they are growing on me!

stammina0721
02-27-2021, 09:53 PM
Uh not sure if you followed Xavier this year but they have not been very good in road games. Lost at Creighton, Saint John's and Providence. This may have been with 0 fans in the building. If there are 0 fans or 10,000 it don't matter Xavier has a hard time winning on the road not sure why you can't comprehend this.

Did they just get smoked at a .500 Providence team ? Yep.

Well they did beat an awful Butler team on the road and an awful Cincy team on the road.

So thanks for your post so I could explain to you that winning at G'Town and Marquette won't be easy even if 0 fans are there.

What I know is this. You are soft. You and people like you make excuses where excuses don't exist. If Xavier can't handle road games then they can't handle road games because they are mentally weak. The court is the same length and the basket is the same height. Do you think a 30% capacity or whatever is approved changes that? For you to use that as justification means you accept softness. It's people like you that ways fall short because you find excuses and justify failure

whopper
02-27-2021, 10:05 PM
Zach seems to have found his sweet spot. Was getting pushed around for a while (Seton Hall, Creighton one, Marquette but now is getting points in the flow and clearing rebounds cleanly. Still not a defensive force but we can't afford him in foul trouble. Also 4 points by Griffin in a short time made a difference.

xu82
02-27-2021, 10:06 PM
What I know is this. You are soft. You and people like you make excuses where excuses don't exist. If Xavier can't handle road games then they can't handle road games because they are mentally weak. The court is the same length and the basket is the same height. Do you think a 30% capacity or whatever is approved changes that? For you to use that as justification means you accept softness. It's people like you that ways fall short because you find excuses and justify failure

I don’t think you know as much as you think you know. Other than Scruggs, our best players out there were freshmen and sophomores. This team has a lot of room to improve. So does Steele. Given that they only got to practice a couple times over a crazy month, that doesn’t help them grow. But then, what do you care about the details?

xukeith
02-27-2021, 10:38 PM
Travis in post game says Getting practices in yesterday helped a ton. Pleayers are in better shape. HE said X is very close to putting it all together right at the best time.

xukeith
02-27-2021, 10:40 PM
What I know is this. You are soft. You and people like you make excuses where excuses don't exist. If Xavier can't handle road games then they can't handle road games because they are mentally weak. The court is the same length and the basket is the same height. Do you think a 30% capacity or whatever is approved changes that? For you to use that as justification means you accept softness. It's people like you that ways fall short because you find excuses and justify failure

Oh boy, its Norman Dale! Get a new idea please.

stammina0721
02-27-2021, 11:06 PM
I don’t think you know as much as you think you know. Other than Scruggs, our best players out there were freshmen and sophomores. This team has a lot of room to improve. So does Steele. Given that they only got to practice a couple times over a crazy month, that doesn’t help them grow. But then, what do you care about the details?

I'm not claiming to know anything. All I am saying is this mindset is soft and why so many people fail ( not just talking about basketball here). There is nothing wrong with getting beat. There is something wrong when you are better and you accept small excuses such as "people in the stands" as a reason why a game may be lost. It's pathetic

xu82
02-27-2021, 11:10 PM
I'm not claiming to know anything. All I am saying is this mindset is soft and why so many people fail. There is nothing wrong with getting beat. There is something wrong when you are better and you accept small excuses such as "people in the stands" as a reason why a game may be lost. It's pathetic

You said they are “mentally weak”, which I find insulting. I said they are young. I’ll stick with my side of this. These young guys were all studs up to the introduction to BE basketball. I think most of these guys will grow into it. You are free to disagree.

waggy
02-27-2021, 11:10 PM
Dwon Odom was huge tonight. If he plays with that same drive and determination the next two games, X has a chance.

Xuperman
02-27-2021, 11:13 PM
I'm not claiming to know anything. All I am saying is this mindset is soft and why so many people fail ( not just talking about basketball here). There is nothing wrong with getting beat. There is something wrong when you are better and you accept small excuses such as "people in the stands" as a reason why a game may be lost. It's pathetic

EASY STAMMINA, try to resist the intoxicating powers of the glue.

Final4
02-28-2021, 08:42 AM
Once season is over I’d have Odom move in with Brad Redford. Spend every waking moment either in the gym together or talking shooting. Can you imagine that dude with a 3pt shot?

AviatorX
02-28-2021, 09:01 AM
Once season is over I’d have Odom move in with Brad Redford. Spend every waking moment either in the gym together or talking shooting. Can you imagine that dude with a 3pt shot?

He would not be at Xavier, that's for sure.

AviatorX
02-28-2021, 09:08 AM
I am glad their computer numbers are what they are so X can bank on the win, but I really think this is yet another fraudulent Creighton team when it comes to winning time in March. I guess you can't hold last year against them and maybe that was finally their team that was going to make a run, but it has got to be frustrating being a Jays fan.

xuphan
02-28-2021, 09:08 AM
Once season is over I’d have Odom move in with Brad Redford. Spend every waking moment either in the gym together or talking shooting. Can you imagine that dude with a 3pt shot?

Do you think his shot is fixable? I think he has the potential to be an all American by the end of his career if he can fix his shot.

UCGRAD4X
02-28-2021, 09:30 AM
Do you think his shot is fixable? I think he has the potential to be an all American by the end of his career if he can fix his shot.

I'm sure that is something they/he will work on. I expect he will get better, hopefully enough to at least draw some D out and make it easier to drive.

Unless he's soft and mentally weak, that is.

LOLmickcronin
02-28-2021, 09:32 AM
Do you think his shot is fixable? I think he has the potential to be an all American by the end of his career if he can fix his shot.

I love dwon and have wanted him to get more minutes since day one. He does obviously need to improve from the perimeter but honestly I think just enough so defenders need to respect it. Otherwise he can be a killer getting the rim, hitting floaters and runners, and passing. He will have wilcher and Colby and (hopefully) kyky to kick it out to the next two years. You don’t need to be able to shoot the 3 from all positions and I’d love to have him develop his midrange and getting to the bucket game into a Tu or Jordan Crawford type game.

stammina0721
02-28-2021, 09:41 AM
I'm sure that is something they/he will work on. I expect he will get better, hopefully enough to at least draw some D out and make it easier to drive.

Unless he's soft and mentally weak, that it.

Odom is fine and a plus level defender. That is what this team needs. His two blocks down the stretch were game changers. CJ Anderson didn't shoot threes and we all know how that turned out.

xavierj
02-28-2021, 10:29 AM
I'm sure that is something they/he will work on. I expect he will get better, hopefully enough to at least draw some D out and make it easier to drive.

Unless he's soft and mentally weak, that is.

I am sure it will get better but probably never above 30%. Crazier things have happened but that form is UGLY. The good thing is that he can finish and his jump stop elevation shot is probably unstoppable because he elevates so high you can’t block his shot. He can slice through the defense as fast as I have seen on his way to the rim. If he had a reliable three he would probably be a one and done type player and at Duke. Glad he is at Xavier. Seems like a great leader as well.

JTG
02-28-2021, 11:24 AM
I am glad their computer numbers are what they are so X can bank on the win, but I really think this is yet another fraudulent Creighton team when it comes to winning time in March. I guess you can't hold last year against them and maybe that was finally their team that was going to make a run, but it has got to be frustrating being a Jays fan.

I think, for whatever reason, we are just a bad matchup for Creighton. Probably 2 of the Jays worst 3 pt shooting games all year. We came pretty close to winning the game in Omaha.

Muskeagle
02-28-2021, 11:50 AM
This is not implying that he is on the same level, but he reminds me a lot of Russell Westbrook in college. Similar results (Odom's freshman year is way better than Westbrook's freshman numbers, but not as good as his sophomore numbers). But overall style: athletic, slashing, driving, finishing with limited long range shooting. We'll see how he progresses, but yesterday's game certainly gives a hint as to what he could do during his time at X.

JTG
02-28-2021, 11:58 AM
Odom has the entire off season to perfect his shot. The only thing he has to do to continue to blow by people, is stay in shape.

bobbiemcgee
02-28-2021, 12:27 PM
I heard somewhere (maybe from an uber driver) he was a triple jump champ in hs.

D-West & PO-Z
02-28-2021, 11:32 PM
I am glad their computer numbers are what they are so X can bank on the win, but I really think this is yet another fraudulent Creighton team when it comes to winning time in March. I guess you can't hold last year against them and maybe that was finally their team that was going to make a run, but it has got to be frustrating being a Jays fan.

Yeah I would love for them to finally show up in the tourney. They have had some bad injury luck, Foster and Watson come to mind but plenty of other good teams that totally shit the bed.

X has had some of its best team crap the bed in the tourney but we've had lower seeded teams make big runs and it evens itself out. Creighton, not so much.

coasterville95
03-03-2021, 06:50 PM
Creighton game just got even better, not only did we get a win against a ranked team - I was just informed I won the AFO 50/50 for that game!


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bjf123
03-03-2021, 06:54 PM
Creighton game just got even better, not only did we get a win against a ranked team - I was just informed I won the AFO 50/50 for that game!


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