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94GRAD
02-16-2021, 02:55 PM
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https://twitter.com/Shot_Quality/status/1361755746719961089

sgarcia
02-16-2021, 03:11 PM
I feel like I should be concerned because we are very well placed on that graph, however, we are 4-3 with 2 wins at the buzzer. Seems like we have very little margin for error in games.

MHettel
02-16-2021, 03:20 PM
Ok, that's just random shit.

I want to see the statistics and data that go into that analysis.

The are 4 possible "quadrants", and yet all 11 teams are in 2 of those quadrants. 5 teams have good offense and good defense, 6 teams have bad offense and bad defense.

No teams have either good offense and bad defense, or good defense and bad offense. The top teams in the standings are in the "good /good" quadrant. the bottom teams are in the "bad / bad" quadrant.

There are no statistics that underlie that chart. It's just someone creating something that looks compelling, but there is no substance to it.

94GRAD
02-16-2021, 03:25 PM
Ok, that's just random shit.

I want to see the statistics and data that go into that analysis.

The are 4 possible "quadrants", and yet all 11 teams are in 2 of those quadrants. 5 teams have good offense and good defense, 6 teams have bad offense and bad defense.

No teams have either good offense and bad defense, or good defense and bad offense. The top teams in the standings are in the "good /good" quadrant. the bottom teams are in the "bad / bad" quadrant.

There are no statistics that underlie that chart. It's just someone creating something that looks compelling, but there is no substance to it.

When you're on that Twitter page, click the other link under the Twitter handle and it gives a couple of variables they take into consideration.

UCGRAD4X
02-16-2021, 03:40 PM
Ok, that's just random shit.

I want to see the statistics and data that go into that analysis.

The are 4 possible "quadrants", and yet all 11 teams are in 2 of those quadrants. 5 teams have good offense and good defense, 6 teams have bad offense and bad defense.

No teams have either good offense and bad defense, or good defense and bad offense. The top teams in the standings are in the "good /good" quadrant. the bottom teams are in the "bad / bad" quadrant.

There are no statistics that underlie that chart. It's just someone creating something that looks compelling, but there is no substance to it.

In a way in makes sense that the 'bad teams' are bad in both. That is what makes them truly bad. And visa-versa with the good. Especially if it is just conference games. There is going to be balance as we 'eat our own'. Sort of the haves and the have nots. I agree that realistically it seems that there should be some middlings.

Is the a statistician in the house?

drudy23
02-16-2021, 03:46 PM
To me, this stat means "these teams have the best players". And honestly, that's a grouping that I'm fine with. All of those teams have a good core of players to take them to the tournament.

It also says something if we don't get there.

UCGRAD4X
02-16-2021, 05:00 PM
To me, this stat means "these teams have the best players". And honestly, that's a grouping that I'm fine with. All of those teams have a good core of players to take them to the tournament.

It also says something if we don't get there.

The term "under achiever" comes to mind.

Popular topic or not - that will be on the coach....

...but it ain't gonna happen!

whopper
02-16-2021, 05:47 PM
another unrelated but Sadiq Bey was the NBA Eastern conference player of the week..over Durant, Tatum, Irving, Harden, Butler, Bam, etc. Not rookie of week, not others getting mention but player of the week. Damn Villanova

paulxu
02-16-2021, 06:04 PM
We take good "quality" shots. We just don't make very many.

whopper
02-16-2021, 06:08 PM
is it possible that the Oakland(and Oklahoma) and even Cincinnatti games had us skew so high?