College Basketball Season 2020-2021

[drudy23]

Well, they are coached by wojo..enough said. Hurley is a far superior coach.

And gave us all we could handle....at home.

What's that say about us?

[EastCoastXman]

Hurley couldn't recruit to the AAC. Now that they are in the Big East, they are in line for all major recruits in NYC area. Stole Sonogo from Seton Hall and Rutgers.

[xuwillie]

That we are about an average big east team. I picked them 6th but could see 5th. Will be between X and providence.

[Xville]

Hurley the same coach in his first two years at UConn had a 5th and 9th place finish in the aac.

yeah the one who turned a Wagner team from 9 wins to 25 in two years, then turned around the Rhode Island program to back to back ncaa invites, then took over a 14 win UCONN team and has improved each season, and will probably get a NCAA invite this year.

[Xville]

And gave us all we could handle....at home.

What's that say about us?

Think it says that Steele as of right now, is just not a very good coach. I hope he improves, but as of now, he's probably middle of the pack in the big east, which I never thought I'd say about a Xavier coach quite honestly.

[Xville]

Hurley couldn't recruit to the AAC. Now that they are in the Big East, they are in line for all major recruits in NYC area. Stole Sonogo from Seton Hall and Rutgers.

Yeah UCONN is most likely going to turn into a national program again with the move to the Big East. It makes the profile of the conference that much better, but it also makes X's road that much tougher.

[xavierj]

Hurley couldn't recruit to the AAC. Now that they are in the Big East, they are in line for all major recruits in NYC area. Stole Sonogo from Seton Hall and Rutgers.

This UConn team is about the same guys they had last year in the aac. They had I believe the number 1 recruiting class in the aac 3 out of the last 5 years and had 6 or 7 four star players and a couple of top 30 guys the past couple of years. On paper they were talented.

[GIMMFD]

This UConn team is about the same guys they had last year in the aac. They had I believe the number 1 recruiting class in the aac 3 out of the last 5 years and had 6 or 7 four star players and a couple of top 30 guys the past couple of years. On paper they were talented.

Bouknight is an NBA player in my opinion, he's very talented, I like Sonogo's game as well. You are correct though that the talent is there, however, I still think Hurley is a great coach. I wouldn't have hated it if we would have hired him. I think he has a lot of passion, and definitely has improved each team he's been at. Though the talent was there, I wonder what the attitude change required was like, because by all means Kevin Ollie lucked into a National Championship, then got fired for "failure of monitoring" his program, and is currently in the middle of a show-cause. Even with talent, you gotta make sure that talent is focused, definitely didn't seem like it from Ollie.

[RetireFiftyTu]

Did X offer Deuce McBride? Would be nice to have him.

https://247sports.com/Article/Miles-McBride-West-Virginia-basketball-recruiting-Bob-Huggins-158652941/

[XUGRAD80]

Creighton is up 30 (72-42) on SH with 7+ minutes left in the 2nd half. Scoring at will and not letting SH bully them on the boards.

[xavierj]

Creighton is up 30 (72-42) on SH with 7+ minutes left in the 2nd half. Scoring at will and not letting SH bully them on the boards.

Yep. The same Creighton team Xavier should have beat. I didn’t think Seton Hall was that good before they played Xavier and after watching them against Butler and tonight, I still believe that. I think Xavier wins at Seton Hall this year like the have the last couple of years. Xavier is bound to come out of this shooting slump. I mean you have good shooters with a proven track record, not even coming close. I still can’t believe Kunkel had three air ball threes. And they were wide open. Weird.

[Xville]

Seton hall is mediocre, I really dont know how we got taken to the woodshed against them. I knew they were medicore before x played them, and they havent done anything to dispel that. They will finish 5th-6th in the league and be bubblicious if lucky

[AviatorX]

Seton hall is mediocre, I really dont know how we got taken to the woodshed against them. I knew they were medicore before x played them, and they havent done anything to dispel that. They will finish 5th-6th in the league and be bubblicious if lucky

X would have lost to every team they’ve played so far (save Oakland and Tennessee Tech maybe) with the effort against SHU. That was a horrendous effort.

[GIMMFD]

Getting back on topic, I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Gonzaga is just unnbelievable this year, I genuinely think they are head and shoulders the best team in the country (obviously doesn't guarantee you a National Championship) but man I don't know who beats them, they've dismantled everybody.. also, Illinois being down 15 at halftime, just to be up 16 with 5 minutes left is a little insane lol, they have some fun talent as well, love Ayo and Kofi

[GoMuskies]

The Shockers smacking around an inept UC squad made me happy.

[noteggs]

The Shockers smacking around an inept UC squad made me happy.

What do you think of the interim coach? Xavier winning in dramatic fashion and UC losing period to go 3-7 is a great day. It’s good to be the king (of the city).

[GoMuskies]

I haven't been paying close attention, but he seems to be doing okay. They're better than I expected them to be so far.

[XUGRAD80]

From the standpoint of helping Xavier’s NET ranking......we should hope that all of the teams X played OOC win every game.

[GoMuskies]

Yeah, I'm not cheering for UC.

[GIMMFD]

Yeah, I'm not cheering for UC.

Agreed, never in my life.

[D-West & PO-Z]

From the standpoint of helping Xavier’s NET ranking......we should hope that all of the teams X played OOC win every game.

Except UC. I dont care how it helps us, we should all cheer for them to lose every game. The rest of the non conf teams I agree.

[GoMuskies]

Somehow Bama murdering Kentucky in Rupp didnt bother me a bit!

[GoMuskies]

Kentucky lost again? Oh no!

[GIMMFD]

Kentucky lost again? Oh no!

How funny would it be if they missed the NCAA Tournament???

[GoMuskies]

It would kind of take a miracle for them at this point. They'll be lucky to make the NIT.

[XU 87]

I see Colgate has a NET ranking of 13. I wonder if the guy from Colgate who transferred to UC, and has now left the team, wishes he hadn't made that decision? And to think he thought he was transferring to a better team.

[GIMMFD]

Can't say I expected Connecticut even without Bouknight to lose to St. John's, this league is brutal.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Can't say I expected Connecticut even without Bouknight to lose to St. John's, this league is brutal.

Really sucks we dont get to play them at their home Wednesday without their best player. Ugh.

[paulxu]

Florida smacked Tenn.
Maybe they're confused about their football team.

[XU 23]

DePaul gets smoked at home by a below average Butler team. Are they ever going to put a competitive squad on the floor?

I think we should seriously consider replacing them with their women's team, who is currently ranked #18.

[XUGRAD80]

Hope that many people here had the chance to watch the SH-Nova game last night. It was a good one. I hope the Xavier players were watching it.

Nova won by 2, even though they shot a lower overall %, got out rebounded by 2, committed 2 more fouls than SH, and had less assists. Where they did outperform SH was in turnovers and free throws. They had 5 less turnovers and made 7 more free throws. They shot 75% from the line as they went 15-20. They also only gave up FOUR offensive rebounds.

I don’t think I saw Nova play with a low post offensive set the whole game. I don’t remember them throwing the ball down to a player in the low post even one time. Instead they forced the larger SH players to come out on the perimeter and guard the Nova players. The Nova players then drove the ball into the lane and either made it the rim for a layup, or got fouled and went to the line, or passed it to an open player. Neither team was credited with a blocked shot for the whole game. That indicates to me that the Nova players were under control and didn’t force shots against the much larger SH front line.

SH did try to take advantage of their size inside a few times, but their 7’2” center only had 2 points for the whole game and only played 19 minutes. He simply couldn’t guard any of the Nova players away from the basket, and by not trying to take him down low they also prevented him from getting ANY rebounds. He was a total non-factor.

I would expect X to follow a similar pattern when they play SH next time. The difference is, the Nova players are more experienced and simply seem to be better one on one players than the Xavier players. I’m not sure that is as much about pure talent as it is about their experience level and confidence. I would also think that when X plays Nova, we will see a similar game. X needs to improve defensively as individuals, and some of that is just going to be experience on the part of the freshman and transfers.

[Xville]

While I agree with some of this in terms of experience etc, the talent gap between Nova and X right now is pretty extraordinary. Of the 7 that are in Nova's rotation, 5 of them are top 57 recruits, another is a mcdonald all-american top 15 guy. The only one that isn't among those 6 is Gillespie and he is as steady a pg as they come.

Compare that with X's 4 transfers in the rotation, 2 top 50 guys, 3 top 100 guys. Now I know, straight up talent isn't everything, but Villanova (as you noted) is also better experienced, better coached (not a knock on steele but i mean Wright is one of the best in the game), and doesn't make many mistakes at all.

X probably will play the way again that you described , and maybe they will shoot lights out (like they did against Oklahoma), and win, but I just don't think X has the personnel yet to play the way that Steele wants them to play.

[XUGRAD80]

.........the talent gap between Nova and X right now is pretty extraordinary. Of the 7 that are in Nova's rotation, 5 of them are top 57 recruits, another is a mcdonald all-american top 15 guy. The only one that isn't among those 6 is Gillespie and he is as steady a pg as they come.

Compare that with X's 4 transfers in the rotation, 2 top 50 guys, 3 top 100 guys. Now I know, straight up talent isn't everything, but Villanova (as you noted) is also better experienced, better coached (not a knock on steele but i mean Wright is one of the best in the game), and doesn't make many mistakes at all.


No disagreement, but a question.....

is the talent difference a matter of just being naturally better athletes? OR..is it they have developed better skills, are more experienced, and are better coached? (I agree with your assessment of Wright. He is a surefire HOF'er)

I'm hoping it is the latter and that with time the Xavier players will be able to play at that same level of expertise, and do it on a consistent basis not just once in awhile. (Oklahoma) I mean 'c'mon, Gillespie shot 8-8 in his free throws, that takes dedication and practice, not great physical talent. He basically won the game for them by doing that. X has had players in the past that performed at that level and they weren't always top 50 recruits. So I'm hoping that either Free or one/two of the freshman develop into that player over the next year or two.

[Xville]

No disagreement, but a question.....

is the talent difference a matter of just being naturally better athletes? OR..is it they have developed better skills, are more experienced, and are better coached? (I agree with your assessment of Wright. He is a surefire HOF'er)

I'm hoping it is the latter and that with time the Xavier players will be able to play at that same level of expertise, and do it on a consistent basis not just once in awhile. (Oklahoma) I mean 'c'mon, Gillespie shot 8-8 in his free throws, that takes dedication and practice, not great physical talent. He basically won the game for them by doing that. X has had players in the past that performed at that level and they weren't always top 50 recruits. So I'm hoping that either Free or one/two of the freshman develop into that player over the next year or two.

I think both. There are parts of X's current roster that is just not going to be at the level that Steele needs to play the game he wants to play right now. Carter is one of them. Carter does a lot of little things well and is a good defender, but he is not a good shooter, and quite frankly is pretty awful on the offensive end. I bet Steele would love to have a good stretch four to go along with Free, but the roster is limited in that aspect. I think Steele has adjusted in that aspect, from what I can tell, since the Seton Hall game and started to pound the ball inside a bit when shots aren't falling, and I think Steele has recognized a few gaps in the roster.

I'm rambling a bit, but I'll just sum it up as currently the roster is obviously less talented, less skilled and less experienced than Nova, which of course most teams are. I think Steele (and think he has done this a bit) needs to adjust his gameplan to reflect that a bit, in not going straight to the Nova gameplan that I think he wanted to at the beginning of the year.

[Xville]

kind of crazy....of the 45 games that were scheduled tonight....16 of them were postponed. Brutal

[SM#24]

Florida smacked Tenn.
Maybe they're confused about their football team.

And Florida was missing a handful of its top players.

[SM#24]

Winthrop Kelseys now 14-0

[GoMuskies]

Winthrop Kelseys now 14-0

This could finally be the year he takes (and sticks with) a bigger job. Perhaps he can follow the Gregg Marshall path from Winthrop to Wichita State?

[SM#24]

Agree, Steele's bench management was very suspect his first two years. I could see if we had solid teams but no way Naji, Scruggs and goodin should have been playing as much as they where. Bishop will be a solid player and definitely should have seen the floor more last year. Would have probably been our best shooter


Bishop played in 10 games for X, and a total of 120 minutes. In those 120 minutes, he shot 18% from the field, 12% from the three, and 31% from the free throw line. He had his chance, and he simply didn't perform well. Based on his horrendous stats, he probably received more chances than he should have received.


Did you black out for the first 8 games of last season? Bishop played double digit minutes in 5 of them to the tune of 3-11 from 2, 2-17 from 3 and 4-13 from the FT line. Then he left the program a few weeks later. How should Steele have handled that?

After a hot start, including 14 against both Auburn & Kansas and 20 against VCU where he went 12-23 from 3 in those 3 games, Bishop has cooled off over the past five games where he's 10/31 from the field including 3/18 from 3.

Season Totals
GS/G Min PTs/Reb/Ast/TO FG%/3%/FT%
11/9 29 8.5/2.7/1.5/3.3 35.6%/31.0%/64.7%

But he's playing in the A10 and in his hometown so good for him and best of luck.

[XUGRAD80]

I think both. There are parts of X's current roster that is just not going to be at the level that Steele needs to play the game he wants to play right now. Carter is one of them. Carter does a lot of little things well and is a good defender, but he is not a good shooter, and quite frankly is pretty awful on the offensive end. I bet Steele would love to have a good stretch four to go along with Free, but the roster is limited in that aspect. I think Steele has adjusted in that aspect, from what I can tell, since the Seton Hall game and started to pound the ball inside a bit when shots aren't falling, and I think Steele has recognized a few gaps in the roster.

I'm rambling a bit, but I'll just sum it up as currently the roster is obviously less talented, less skilled and less experienced than Nova, which of course most teams are. I think Steele (and think he has done this a bit) needs to adjust his gameplan to reflect that a bit, in not going straight to the Nova gameplan that I think he wanted to at the beginning of the year.

I guess I’m more thinking about the younger players than someone like Carter or even Scruggs. I really think that with time and hard work that they can be just as good as anyone on the Nova roster. I expect Nova to continue to get top recruits for as long as Wright is there, but I hope that Xavier can get some to, and that with hard work and experience they will compete just fine. Steele wasn’t left with much to work with, but I’m happy with the first two recruiting classes.

[Xville]

I guess I’m more thinking about the younger players than someone like Carter or even Scruggs. I really think that with time and hard work that they can be just as good as anyone on the Nova roster. I expect Nova to continue to get top recruits for as long as Wright is there, but I hope that Xavier can get some to, and that with hard work and experience they will compete just fine. Steele wasn’t left with much to work with, but I’m happy with the first two recruiting classes.

Gotcha understood. I guess in two years, we shall see. I’m hopeful that Steele can get the roster where it needs to be, and that these two recruiting classes will further develop, but if it was that easy, everyone would look like nova.

[paulxu]

11 top 25 games scheduled for tonight.

7 are postponed.

[XUGRAD80]

11 top 25 games scheduled for tonight.

7 are postponed.

Getting to a point where I’m thinking the NCAA should pause the season and pick it back up mid-Feb. Postpone the tourney until mid-April or early May. Maybe by putting everyone on break they could get some kind of control on this thing. Right now I have almost no hope that the season actually makes it to March Madness.

[xavierj]

Getting to a point where I’m thinking the NCAA should pause the season and pick it back up mid-Feb. Postpone the tourney until mid-April or early May. Maybe by putting everyone on break they could get some kind of control on this thing. Right now I have almost no hope that the season actually makes it to March Madness.

Yeah 15 days, two months and it will get better. Have heard that for almost a year now. It isn’t happening this year, at least for basketball.

[XUGRAD80]

Yeah 15 days, two months and it will get better. Have heard that for almost a year now. It isn’t happening this year, at least for basketball.

I get what you’re saying, but what they are trying right now isn’t working. Might be time to TRY something else.

I’m thinking of the players and coaches and all the starts, stops, cancelations, and postponements, all of the indecisiveness and unpredictability. I think that the vast majority of players and coaches would rather be shut down for the season than to continue to go through these postponements. It’s got to be driving them nuts!

[D-West & PO-Z]

I think that the vast majority of players and coaches would rather be shut down for the season than to continue to go through these postponements.

Really?

I mean I am definitely sure it is driving them nuts. But the vast majority would rather shut down and cancel the season? Really? If that were even remotely true why wouldnt we be at least seeing some players or teams opting out for the rest of the season?

[GoMuskies]

Why on earth would anyone prefer that? So they can get back to.....what exactly?

[XUGRAD80]

Really?

I mean I am definitely sure it is driving them nuts. But the vast majority would rather shut down and cancel the season? Really? If that were even remotely true why wouldnt we be at least seeing some players or teams opting out for the rest of the season?

I think many are getting to that point, yes. But I don’t think it’s something where hardly any of them are given a choice. We have seen some of the women’s teams shut down, but they don’t have the contractual agreements or money pressure the men’s teams do. Nobody wants to be labeled a “quitter”, but I’d still guess that the majority of players and coaches would now vote to shut it down if given the choice. Just a hunch.

[XUGRAD80]

Why on earth would anyone prefer that? So they can get back to.....what exactly?

A little more FREEDOM? Life? Remember, the NCAA has already granted all of them an extra year of eligibility. This year doesn’t count. I have absolutely no doubt that we are going to see several teams be forced to forfeit games in the NCAA tourney, or have to back out participating at the last minute. Is that what they are having to look forward to? Going through all of this he’ll of a season, just to have the opportunity to compete in the tourney taken away from at the last minute ?

Or......do the players become just regular students who don’t have to go into quarantine for 2 weeks at a time because someone in their class is sick. Coaches and staff can have interaction with their families, spend time with their kids.

I was one of the most dedicated college athletes you can imagine. I literally gave up a social life during the long winter season. I trained/practiced year round, everyday, holidays included. I loved it, still do. But I don’t think I would voluntarily have gone through what these kids are going through, and I know for a fact that few if any of my teammates over the years would have even considered it if given a choice where they wouldn’t have lost any eligibility or their place on the team.

[bleedXblue]

A little more FREEDOM? Life? Remember, the NCAA has already granted all of them an extra year of eligibility. This year doesn’t count. I have absolutely no doubt that we are going to see several teams be forced to forfeit games in the NCAA tourney, or have to back out participating at the last minute. Is that what they are having to look forward to? Going through all of this he’ll of a season, just to have the opportunity to compete in the tourney taken away from at the last minute ?

Or......do the players become just regular students who don’t have to go into quarantine for 2 weeks at a time because someone in their class is sick. Coaches and staff can have interaction with their families, spend time with their kids.

I was one of the most dedicated college athletes you can imagine. I literally gave up a social life during the long winter season. I trained/practiced year round, everyday, holidays included. I loved it, still do. But I don’t think I would voluntarily have gone through what these kids are going through, and I know for a fact that few if any of my teammates over the years would have even considered it if given a choice where they wouldn’t have lost any eligibility or their place on the team.

agreed

[Xville]

A little more FREEDOM? Life? Remember, the NCAA has already granted all of them an extra year of eligibility. This year doesn’t count. I have absolutely no doubt that we are going to see several teams be forced to forfeit games in the NCAA tourney, or have to back out participating at the last minute. Is that what they are having to look forward to? Going through all of this he’ll of a season, just to have the opportunity to compete in the tourney taken away from at the last minute ?

Or......do the players become just regular students who don’t have to go into quarantine for 2 weeks at a time because someone in their class is sick. Coaches and staff can have interaction with their families, spend time with their kids.

I was one of the most dedicated college athletes you can imagine. I literally gave up a social life during the long winter season. I trained/practiced year round, everyday, holidays included. I loved it, still do. But I don’t think I would voluntarily have gone through what these kids are going through, and I know for a fact that few if any of my teammates over the years would have even considered it if given a choice where they wouldn’t have lost any eligibility or their place on the team.

I don't know what an 18-22 year old's mindset is about all of this right now, but I would find it pretty hard to believe that they would not want to play even with all of the stop/start etc. I think that if what you said is true, there would be a heck of a lot of lower level conference teams (that don't have the contractural obligations that a Big East team has) opting out of the season

[XUGRAD80]

You might be right, I might be wrong. Like I said, it’s a hunch on my part. But I can tell you that from personal experience that the stop-start-stop going on in many businesses (including my wife’s company) is more stressful for many than knowing it’s going to be shut down until things permanently improve.

[D-West & PO-Z]

A little more FREEDOM? Life? Remember, the NCAA has already granted all of them an extra year of eligibility. This year doesn’t count. I have absolutely no doubt that we are going to see several teams be forced to forfeit games in the NCAA tourney, or have to back out participating at the last minute. Is that what they are having to look forward to? Going through all of this he’ll of a season, just to have the opportunity to compete in the tourney taken away from at the last minute ?

Or......do the players become just regular students who don’t have to go into quarantine for 2 weeks at a time because someone in their class is sick. Coaches and staff can have interaction with their families, spend time with their kids.

I was one of the most dedicated college athletes you can imagine. I literally gave up a social life during the long winter season. I trained/practiced year round, everyday, holidays included. I loved it, still do. But I don’t think I would voluntarily have gone through what these kids are going through, and I know for a fact that few if any of my teammates over the years would have even considered it if given a choice where they wouldn’t have lost any eligibility or their place on the team.

1. I don't think its wrong if any player decides they can't handle it and want to opt out. That would be their right and I would not fault them at all. We saw plenty of college football players do it. If basketball players wanted to do it I think we would be seeing them do it.

2. You understand quarantine rules arent different for college basketball players than regular students right? If a regular student is exposed to a classmate who is diagnosed with COVID they have to quarantine as well. I mean I guess the difference is no one is overseeing them they can irresponsibly ignore the quarantine rules? The only significant difference is that in the regular world you can get your quarantine down to 7-10 days if you undergo testing where due to NCAA or conference rules the players/team has to do the 14.

[Xavier]

I am pretty sure a UC basketball player opted out after the first couple months of play. Basically saying it wasn't worth it and was causing mental health problems....So, it does happen. Isn't that the whole point of an extra year of eligibility?

[GoMuskies]

I am pretty sure a UC basketball player opted out after the first couple months of play. Basically saying it wasn't worth it and was causing mental health problems

I don't think that has anything to do with the pandemic. That's just UC basketball.

[D-West & PO-Z]

You might be right, I might be wrong. Like I said, it’s a hunch on my part. But I can tell you that from personal experience that the stop-start-stop going on in many businesses (including my wife’s company) is more stressful for many than knowing it’s going to be shut down until things permanently improve.

The difference is that when they end the college basketball season (as opposed to your wife's work) that is all she wrote for some guys. Scruggs isnt coming back despite the free year of eligibility. I am sure he wants to try and make and play in the NCAA tourney for the 1st time since his freshman year. If he doesnt and wants to stop the season I don't fault him at all, but I sort of doubt he does. That isnt saying this isnt hard or drive you crazy.

[MHettel]

I cant understand how College Football, with rosters of like 100 players and a dozen or more coaches and staff can pull off (for the most part) a full season. Sure, a handful of games got canceled or postponed, but generally the games that were scheduled were played.

So, how the hell is this so much more impactful for basketball with a fraction of the number of participants.

Doesn't add up.

[Xville]

I cant understand how College Football, with rosters of like 100 players and a dozen or more coaches and staff can pull off (for the most part) a full season. Sure, a handful of games got canceled or postponed, but generally the games that were scheduled were played.

So, how the hell is this so much more impactful for basketball with a fraction of the number of participants.

Doesn't add up.

Inside vs outside, 1 game a week, football is more socially distanced in terms of offense/defense practicing separately quite a bit...rosters of however many so that if a number of people go down, still have enough to field a team....football was kind of an issue even with all of this...look at the number of bowl games cancelled etc.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Inside vs outside, 1 game a week, football is more socially distanced in terms of offense/defense practicing separately quite a bit...rosters of however many so that if a number of people go down, still have enough to field a team....football was kind of an issue even with all of this...look at the number of bowl games cancelled etc.

Yeah plus with basketball 1 person gets COVID the whole team is exposed. Like you said football teams are a lot more distanced from one another in various position groups etc.

[xavierj]

Yeah plus with basketball 1 person gets COVID the whole team is exposed. Like you said football teams are a lot more distanced from one another in various position groups etc.

No they really are not. They have position groups but for a good part of practice they are going 11 on 11 and sweating and bleeding on each other. Yeah they are outside but still are not distanced and have much closer contact. But one or 5 or 10 football players testing positive or close contacts was not causing cancellations but 1 basketball player and you go on pause. As long as a football team had 53 guys available they could play.

[D-West & PO-Z]

No they really are not. They have position groups but for a good part of practice they are going 11 on 11 and sweating and bleeding on each other. Yeah they are outside but still are not distanced and have much closer contact. But one or 5 or 10 football players testing positive or close contacts was not causing cancellations but 1 basketball player and you go on pause. As long as a football team had 53 guys available they could play.

I was thinking more NFL (I get the previous posts referenced college. NFL does not do much 11 on 11, I don't know about college as much).

I am confused on however on how football players have "much closer contact" than basketball players. Care to elaborate on that one? If anything I could get equal but I don't know how you could get any closer than two big men posting up on each other.

[XU '11]

I know for a fact that few if any of my teammates over the years would have even considered it if given a choice where they wouldn’t have lost any eligibility or their place on the team.

Everybody received an extra year of eligibility. So they can play 5 seasons instead of 4. Deciding not to play this season will still reduce the number of seasons they could play by 1, so still losing a year of eligibility. Not to mention a transfer may arrive next year that is better. So they may not lose their place on the team, but there's no way to guarantee they maintain their current role.

[xavierj]

I was thinking more NFL (I get the previous posts referenced college. NFL does not do much 11 on 11, I don't know about college as much).

I am confused on however on how football players have "much closer contact" than basketball players. Care to elaborate on that one? If anything I could get equal but I don't know how you could get any closer than two big men posting up on each other.

How they get closer? Well watch any football game and watch how many guys are gang tackling and everyone runs to the ball. So with the oline and deline blocking and fighting each other on every play and guys getting tackled, you probably have close contact with at least 20 guys on every snap.

[XUGRAD80]

Everybody received an extra year of eligibility. So they can play 5 seasons instead of 4. Deciding not to play this season will still reduce the number of seasons they could play by 1, so still losing a year of eligibility. Not to mention a transfer may arrive next year that is better. So they may not lose their place on the team, but there's no way to guarantee they maintain their current role.

Never met an athlete worth a damn that worried about who he might be competing with for a spot on the team...NEXT year. Can’t really imagine there is any that are saying to themselves that they better play this year, because the coach MIGHT bring in a player that is better than them NEXT year. Who in the hell wants players that are afraid to compete, anyway? I sure hope X doesn’t have any players like that.

As far as your 1st point, I guess you could look at it that way, but I think all of them realize that’s not the purpose of the new rule. Nobody is going to play as many games this year as they would in a normal season, many are going to play a lot less games, and in the case of the Ivy League and some individual players and programs, they aren’t going to play any. What the rule insures is that this screwed up year isn’t going to penalize players by reducing the number of games they would get to play in a career. Yes, for many players it will actually add games to a career, but that was certainly not the purpose of the rule. Also, keep in mind that the rule covers ALL WINTER sports, some of which that would normally have started during the 1st semester, but didn’t start until the 2nd semester. Some of those sports are going to have almost complete seasons wiped out. This rule insures that those athletes won’t have 1/4 of their college career go down the drain through no fault of their own. It’s not really there to add to the career of anyone.

[D-West & PO-Z]

How they get closer? Well watch any football game and watch how many guys are gang tackling and everyone runs to the ball. So with the oline and deline blocking and fighting each other on every play and guys getting tackled, you probably have close contact with at least 20 guys on every snap.

Again the closeness would seem the exact same to me in game settings. And moreso in practice settings n basketball (speaking in terms of whole team).

[Xavier]

Yeah, if anything I would say bball spends more time being in close contact. I guess the only thing for football is there are just so many more players it increases the chance of one of them getting it. I really anticipated more instances like the Titans- where it basically continued to spread throughout the team over the span of a week or two.

[MADXSTER]

This is like debating whether who gets wet more, the person jumping in the pool head first or the person jumping in feet first(off two feet of course)

[D-West & PO-Z]

This is like debating whether who gets wet more, the person jumping in the pool head first or the person jumping in feet first(off two feet of course)

Ha

[XUGRAD80]

Oklahoma by 7 over Kansas. Kansas was sitting a #9.

[Lloyd Braun]

Oklahoma by 7 over Kansas.

Therefore, Xavier over Kansas by 29

[Xville]

Kansas is extremely overrated, but still the win looks good on the ole resume.

[paulxu]

Therefore, Xavier over Kansas by 29

The value of a Jesuit education. I like it !

[noteggs]

Kansas is extremely overrated, but still the win looks good on the ole resume.

Actually, the Oklahoma win is going to look pretty darn good on our resume. Has looked really good since we gave them that beat down and currently 28th by Kenpom

[Xville]

Actually, the Oklahoma win is going to look pretty darn good on our resume. Has looked really good since we gave them that beat down and currently 28th by Kenpom

Oh I agree that win is looking good. Just saying I think Kansas is very overrated——odd that Kansas, Kentucky, duke and unc—bluest of the blue bloods and none of them are very good this year.

[noteggs]

Oh I agree that win is looking good. Just saying I think Kansas is very overrated——odd that Kansas, Kentucky, duke and unc—bluest of the blue bloods and none of them are very good this year.

Yes very odd, but probably like you not exactly heartbroken over their lack of success this year and like to see the parity in college basketball vs football.

[Xville]

Yes very odd, but probably like you not exactly heartbroken over their lack of success this year and like to see the parity in college basketball vs football.

True dat. Like seeing nova and Gonzaga up there. Though I’m jealous of both, nice to see those teams up there that presumably do things “the right way.”

[XU 23]

I didn't even realize Dayton lost to Fordham earlier this year on Jan. 5. Wow, they really suck.

[GIMMFD]

True dat. Like seeing nova and Gonzaga up there. Though I’m jealous of both, nice to see those teams up there that presumably do things “the right way.”

Yup, really tough to dislike Mark Few and Jay Wright, both are just great competitors, and seem like good dudes. Also Baylor is pretty damn legit this year too, granted they don't really fit under "the right way" monikor lol.

[bobbiemcgee]

I didn't even realize Dayton lost to Fordham earlier this year on Jan. 5. Wow, they really suck.

and LaSalle.

[bobbiemcgee]

Anybody think we will have the Big East tournament this year? Starting to have my doubts.

[XUGRAD80]

Anybody think we will have the Big East tournament this year? Starting to have my doubts.

I’m reading more and more opposition to ALL conference championship tournaments. Many coaches are thinking that it’s not safe to hold them just before trying to hold the national tournament.

[sgarcia]

If there are no conference tourneys, do you think any leagues will makeup postponed conference games with the extra 5/6 days they'll have before Selection Sunday?

[JTG]

No BE tournament makes it even more paramount to finish in the top half of the conference.

[Xavier]

If there are no conference tourneys, do you think any leagues will makeup postponed conference games with the extra 5/6 days they'll have before Selection Sunday?

Doubt it- Kinda defeats the purpose. Having a solid 10-12 days to try and "quarantine" and be ready is going to be important.

[GoMuskies]

I can't decide whether I'm pro or anti elimination of conference tournaments this year. I suspect my final opinion may have something to do with which side of the bubble Xavier appears to be on around March 1st.

[xubrew]

I can't decide whether I'm pro or anti elimination of conference tournaments this year. I suspect my final opinion may have something to do with which side of the bubble Xavier appears to be on around March 1st.

It's discouraging that conferences don't feel they can play their conference tournaments. There are roughly between 8-12 teams in nearly every conference tournament. There are 68 teams in the NCAA Tournament. That's slightly harder to pull off.

[XUGRAD80]

It's discouraging that conferences don't feel they can play their conference tournaments. There are roughly between 8-12 teams in nearly every conference tournament. There are 68 teams in the NCAA Tournament. That's slightly harder to pull off.

I think it will be a conference by conference decision about IF they have a tourney, and if they don’t, how they will use that time.

[Xville]

Oklahoma up 8 va Texas at the under 8 timeout. Hold on, and that win only gets better.

[XUGRAD80]

Oklahoma up 8 va Texas at the under 8 timeout. Hold on, and that win only gets better.


They held on to win by 1. Texas was ranked #5, OU #24.

[xu82]

I can't decide whether I'm pro or anti elimination of conference tournaments this year. I suspect my final opinion may have something to do with which side of the bubble Xavier appears to be on around March 1st.

I like this practical view of the situation. I completely agree as I am 100% focused on our Xavier franchise and branding.

[XUGRAD80]

It's discouraging that conferences don't feel they can play their conference tournaments. There are roughly between 8-12 teams in nearly every conference tournament. There are 68 teams in the NCAA Tournament. That's slightly harder to pull off.

The NCAA is going to require that all members of the teams be tested DAILY for 7 days PRIOR to the NCAA tournament. A positive test would most likely eliminate that team from participating. Then they are going to place those teams that actually make it there into a semi-bubble. All the teams will be placed in one of four hotels, they will have their practice times, etc. very much scheduled and controlled. They will be using set arenas for practice and games. No freelancing or use of other facilities.

I don’t think that there more than a couple of conferences that could pull off the same level of control and security. Many of the smaller conferences still have 1st round conference games on the home floors of the higher seeded teams. Virtually all others use one facility for all the games and all the “official” practices, but it is common for teams to also use local facilities (high schools, jr colleges, etc.) for additional practice time.

Any reduction in travel and outside exposure decreases the amount of risk involved. So elimination of the conference tournaments will increase the likelihood of teams actually making it to the NCAA tourney. But I think we should anticipate that even with all the things they do to eliminate risk, there are still going to be teams that either don’t make it to the NCAA’s because of someone getting sick, or make it and then have to leave because someone tests positive after they get there.

FUBAR

[paulxu]

That sounds an awful lot like no conference tournaments this year.

[XUGRAD80]

That sounds an awful lot like no conference tournaments this year.

I say “follow the money”. Since virtually none will have fans in attendance the question will be what kind of TV revenue does the conference get for the tournament? If they aren’t going to make money and/or are going to lose money, why have the tourney? These Conference tournaments are just money makers for the conference, there is no other real reason to have them.

[paulxu]

Well, you do have the auto bid to the NCAA tournament as a secondary reason besides the money.
What do you do otherwise (the Ivy is the only one I can think of that doesn't send the conference tournament winner)?
Do you take the one with the best conference record, or best overall record? Do you do one game if there's an in-conference tie?
Will be fun to watch it all play out.

[XUGRAD80]

Well, you do have the auto bid to the NCAA tournament as a secondary reason besides the money.
What do you do otherwise (the Ivy is the only one I can think of that doesn't send the conference tournament winner)?
Do you take the one with the best conference record, or best overall record? Do you do one game if there's an in-conference tie?
Will be fun to watch it all play out.

Regular season champion goes as automatic bid.....that’s my guess. That’s how it was done before the conference tournaments began.

[GoMuskies]

Well, you do have the auto bid to the NCAA tournament as a secondary reason besides the money.
What do you do otherwise (the Ivy is the only one I can think of that doesn't send the conference tournament winner)?
Do you take the one with the best conference record, or best overall record? Do you do one game if there's an in-conference tie?
Will be fun to watch it all play out.

The Ivy League now has a conference tournament and sends their tourney champ to the NCAA Tournament. Well, at least in years in which the Ivy League plays basketball.

[GoMuskies]

John Chaney has died. Another piece of my childhood dies with him.

[Cincypunk.org]

Dontarius James averaging 18 PPG and has dropped 30 points twice this season for Jacksonville, who was 9-4 and and in first place in the A-Sun until a recent 5 game losing streak.

Happy for him!

[bobbiemcgee]

Listening to the Colorado-Utah game on way home from grocery (how does Kroger run out of milk on a nothing weekend?). CU up 19 pts. with 8 minutes to play. After putting away groceries, flip on TV to see Buffs lost by 3.

[waggy]

Duke loses at Miami. Surprising because Miami is having various problems, including kicking a good freshman off the team in the last week.

[xu82]

Duke finally is indeed Puke!

College basketball is difficult to recognize during this mess. I don’t know who is good, who is NOT good.....or when we will play again.

[GIMMFD]

Duke finally is indeed Puke!

College basketball is difficult to recognize during this mess. I don’t know who is good, who is NOT good.....or when we will play again.

Gonzaga & Baylor - Very Good
Villanova - Good
The rest - Meh.

[xavierj]

Gonzaga & Baylor - Very Good
Villanova - Good
The rest - Meh.

Drake is having a great year. 17-0 winning by 21 points per game. Have to imagine their coach is in for a big payday. Didn’t realize how terrible Drake has been over the years, but prior to this coach taking over they had 3 winning seasons since 1980 and this guy now has three winning seasons in 3 years. Before he took over they won 9, 7 and 7 and then he wins 24, 20 and is now 17-0. Guy must know what he is doing.

[murray87]

Spoke to a friend that lives in Louisville and he says there is growing displeasure with a certain head basketball coach. Losing to Clemson (in basketball) was not expected. Hahahahahahaha!

[Xville]

Spoke to a friend that lives in Louisville and he says there is growing displeasure with a certain head basketball coach. Losing to Clemson (in basketball) was not expected. Hahahahahahaha!

I'll say this....he is extremely lucky in a lot of ways that we are in a pandemic. If the team was performing like this with everything "normal," there would be a lot more heat on the guy then there is. It just seems that almost everyone is getting a pass this year from the public. Now with all that said, it isn't like the team is garbage...I mean they are 11-4 and in the top half of the ACC, it is just that the team has looked really awful in their losses.

[drudy23]

Spoke to a friend that lives in Louisville and he says there is growing displeasure with a certain head basketball coach. Losing to Clemson (in basketball) was not expected. Hahahahahahaha!

I doubt Mack cares. He made the move to set himself up for life.

Outside noise is simply chatter when you're rich. Rich people know this.

[xubrew]

Drake is having a great year. 17-0 winning by 21 points per game. Have to imagine their coach is in for a big payday. Didn’t realize how terrible Drake has been over the years, but prior to this coach taking over they had 3 winning seasons since 1980 and this guy now has three winning seasons in 3 years. Before he took over they won 9, 7 and 7 and then he wins 24, 20 and is now 17-0. Guy must know what he is doing.

Darian Devries. He was an assistant at Creighton for forever and they passed him over a time or two. But, Creighton is ranked in the top 20 right now, so I guess they did okay.

[GoMuskies]

I wonder if he'll turn out to actually be terrible like the last hot thing out of Drake, Keno Davis.

[GIMMFD]

Drake is having a great year. 17-0 winning by 21 points per game. Have to imagine their coach is in for a big payday. Didn’t realize how terrible Drake has been over the years, but prior to this coach taking over they had 3 winning seasons since 1980 and this guy now has three winning seasons in 3 years. Before he took over they won 9, 7 and 7 and then he wins 24, 20 and is now 17-0. Guy must know what he is doing.

Also have been absolutely incredible against the spread too, I will give you that, Drake has been a helluva team this year.

[GoMuskies]

UD losing to Dookane is just unfortunate.

[SM#24]

UD losing to Dookane is just unfortunate.

From top 5 to losses to Fordham & Duq in the same season.

[SM#24]

Strange night last night.

East Carolina beating Houston
South Carolina with a roadie over Fla
Gtown with a roadie over Creighton
St. Johns beating Villanova
LaSalle beating SLU

[xudash]

From top 5 to losses to Fordham & Duq in the same season.

You missed LaSalle. VD also lost to LossSalle this season. A trifecta!

[SM#24]

You missed LaSalle. VD also lost to LossSalle this season. A trifecta!

That is the Triple Crown of A10 suckiness.

[Lloyd Braun]

Looks like Chris Mack has covid. Texas really hasn’t been the same since Shaka got it.

[xavierj]

Looks like Chris Mack has covid. Texas really hasn’t been the same since Shaka got it.

Well Shaka isn’t a very good coach so that has a lot to do with it. He always has a ton of talent but doesn’t get better as the year goes on. Texas really hasn’t beaten anyone other than I guess West Virginia, which they got lucky to win. Kansas at home is ok but Kansas isn't very good either. I don’t think the coach getting covid has anything to do with their performance.

[Lloyd Braun]

Well Shaka isn’t a very good coach so that has a lot to do with it. He always has a ton of talent but doesn’t get better as the year goes on. Texas really hasn’t beaten anyone other than I guess West Virginia, which they got lucky to win. Kansas at home is ok but Kansas isn't very good either. I don’t think the coach getting covid has anything to do with their performance.

It wasn’t meant as praise for Shaka, but just look at their schedule and results. Pre-covid they were 11-2 with losses to Nova by 4, TT by 2. Won at Kansas by 25, and at WV as you noted. Eye test seemed to pass as well for me.

Post covid- they are 0-3. Those are 3 tough games but they don’t look nearly the same and I don’t know how them looking worse is a result of bad coaching by the guy who hasn’t been around. Losing a head coach for a couple weeks is a big deal.

[GoMuskies]

The Fighting Kelseys haven't played in a while, but they're still a one loss squad. 16-1, 13-1. Sadly, they're on a one game losing streak.

[GoMuskies]

Looks like Chris Mack has covid.

Wake Forest legend Dino Gaudio is Louisville's head coach for now.

[GoMuskies]

This is a new one: UNC/Miami postponed because UNC's players celebrated their win over Dook a bit too freely with the student body.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30863491/miami-hurricanes-north-carolina-tar-heels-game-postponed-party-video-surfaces

Let's just go ahead and vaccinate all the college basketball teams. Some of us need to get our gamble on more reliably!

Here's the offending video. https://youtu.be/n8oE_yoFBEM

I'm offended by how lame their celebration of a win over Dook seems! We turned over a car on Franklin Street and set the street on fire when I was a student there in '01! (And by "we", I of course mean the student body as a whole; I simply walked past on my way to the bar.)

[xubrew]

Looks like Chris Mack has covid. Texas really hasn’t been the same since Shaka got it.

Texas went through a brutal stretch of their schedule while being hit hard with COVID. They only had 8 players for a few of those games in addition to not having their coach for a few of them. And...it's not like they were getting blown out in those games. I think they are still extremely dangerous when they are at full strength.

[xubrew]

Texas went through a brutal stretch of their schedule while being hit hard with COVID. They only had 8 players for a few of those games in addition to not having their coach for a few of them. And...it's not like they were getting blown out in those games. I think they are still extremely dangerous when they are at full strength.

Okay, after that, I’m now starting to think that Texas does in fact suck.

[XUGRAD80]

Howard University has canceled the rest of their season.

I wonder if any other lower level programs, with no hope of reaching post season play, are considering doing the same thing? Let’s say the program is losing money, knows it won’t make the NCAA tourney (or any other tourney), and doesn’t have any real paydays on the horizon. Why would they keep putting their players out there, when they can use the virus as an excuse to cancel the rest of the games?

[GoMuskies]

Kentucky is 5-13. If that doesn't make you smile, there's something serious wrong with you.

[JTG]

UK, MSU, and Duke all 3 stink. Just makes you want to say, Awwww.....Yippee.

[noteggs]

Kentucky is 5-13. If that doesn't make you smile, there's something serious wrong with you.

I used to say “f@&k UK on TV again.” Now awesome because I get to watch their asses bet beat.

[Xavier]

Howard University has canceled the rest of their season.

I wonder if any other lower level programs, with no hope of reaching post season play, are considering doing the same thing? Let’s say the program is losing money, knows it won’t make the NCAA tourney (or any other tourney), and doesn’t have any real paydays on the horizon. Why would they keep putting their players out there, when they can use the virus as an excuse to cancel the rest of the games?

I figured a lot of teams wouldn't do that just because I wasn't sure how it impacted conference money splits. If you stop playing why would you get same amount as those who played all year? (From NCAA game) etc.

[GoMuskies]

I guess once Makur Maker got hurt, there really was no sense in Howard going ahead with their season. It was their one shot to get a bit of publicity for the program.

[XUGRAD80]

I figured a lot of teams wouldn't do that just because I wasn't sure how it impacted conference money splits. If you stop playing why would you get same amount as those who played all year? (From NCAA game) etc.

My guess is that if they stop because of COVID than it won’t effect any kind of payout, OR they may be thinking that the possible payout won’t make up for the losses if they do continue playing.

[GIMMFD]

UK, MSU, and Duke all 3 stink. Just makes you want to say, Awwww.....Yippee.

Duke is 7-8 overall, UK 5-13, MSU is the most respectable with a 10-7 record... just wow.

[Xville]

This year’s freshmen class I think is just garbage outside of the kid at ok state. I know that covid has been a convenient excuse, but watching a few uk games, the talent is garbage. Askew is the worst point guard at Uk I have seen in a few decades and the rest of the team is just very average talent wise.

[xavierj]

This year’s freshmen class I think is just garbage outside of the kid at ok state. I know that covid has been a convenient excuse, but watching a few uk games, the talent is garbage. Askew is the worst point guard at Uk I have seen in a few decades and the rest of the team is just very average talent wise.

I don’t know about all that. Yeah the typical Duke and KY players are not as good but Jalen Suggs is really good for Gonzaga and will probably be the #1 pick in the draft and Evan Mobley is really good for USC too.

[GIMMFD]

This year’s freshmen class I think is just garbage outside of the kid at ok state. I know that covid has been a convenient excuse, but watching a few uk games, the talent is garbage. Askew is the worst point guard at Uk I have seen in a few decades and the rest of the team is just very average talent wise.

I feel like the last two years have underwhelmed to be honest, I think James Wiseman could have been very good at Memphis, he's shown flashes with Golden State, and Anthony Edwards was awesome, granted high volume, rest were okay. Same with this year, I like Cade Cunningham a lot, and Jalen Green and Jonathon Kuminga decided to go to the G-league so we don't get to see them in the college game, but seems like the rest are pretty underwhelming (except Suggs at Gonzaga, I really like his game too)...

I wonder if this will be just two down years, or a trend with guys going overseas, and to the G-league that are good talents, thus diminishing schools like UK that live and die by the one and done. Most of 2021's class are committed to schools and not going pro, so think we won't know for another couple years, but it's something to keep an eye on. I will say, seeing Gonzaga probably get the #1 recruit in the country in Chet Holmgreen would be something to see.

[XUGRAD80]

Ky is missing any consistent outside threats and doesn’t have a true low post presence. Not a good combination. Their roster just isn’t that good right now.

A major Xavier target from 2 years ago, Dionte Allen, is getting little playing time and that’s surprising because he is a very good outside shooter. Has had a couple of really good games when he has been given some minutes, and then disappears for the next few games. Sound familiar?

[Xville]

I don’t know about all that. Yeah the typical Duke and KY players are not as good but Jalen Suggs is really good for Gonzaga and will probably be the #1 pick in the draft and Evan Mobley is really good for USC too.

I completely forgot about Suggs...he is a really good player. He also may struggle in the nba a bit because at that level, he isn’t very athletic.

[xavierj]

I completely forgot about Suggs...he is a really good player. He also may struggle in the nba a bit because at that level, he isn’t very athletic.

I think Suggs is athletic, at least the times I have seen him. Saw a write up that he has great athleticism but poor length, whatever that means. The guy I like the best is Evan Mobley. USC lost a ton from last year, including a lottery lock, and they are 15-3 just because of him. I have seen him a few times and he dominates. If Xavier had a guy like him, they would be a title contender. The guy is 7’0”, athletic, can play inside or out, rebound, passes well and blocks shots. If I was picking I would take him #1.

[Lloyd Braun]

If Mobley is not taken 1st or 2nd I would be pretty surprised. Suggs is really good but I am having trouble seeing him in the top 2-3. Size matters.

[xubrew]

Boston College has fired Jim Christian. I think he's a good coach. It's just that to win at Boston College you need to be a coach that's so good that there is no way they'd even consider going to Boston College because they'll have so many other better opportunities.

[GIMMFD]

Boston College has fired Jim Christian. I think he's a good coach. It's just that to win at Boston College you need to be a coach that's so good that there is no way they'd even consider going to Boston College because they'll have so many other better opportunities.

To be fair, they were pretty solid when Jared Dudley was there when Al Skinner was coaching, had them in the Top 25 fairly regularly... it's just been downhill from there..

[Xville]

Bouknight is back tonight...16 off the bench so far. UConn is a tourney team if he stays healthy the rest of the way.

[murray87]

Meanwhile, over in Clifton Zach Harvey is leaving:

"I want to thank my teammates, the coaching staff and the fans here for the constant support during this time," he said. "This past month has been very difficult with Covid shutdowns, quarantines, and isolation. With that being said, I have decided to utilize the Covid Opt-Out option for this season. Thank you for your understanding."

Harvey is the fourth Cincinnati player to opt out, joining freshman guard Gabe Madsen, junior forward Mamoudou Diarra and graduate transfer Rapolas Ivanauskas. Diarra has since opted back in, while Ivanauskas joined BC Rytas, a professional club in Lithuania.

[GoMuskies]

The Gregg Marshall-less Wheat Shockers beat Houston tonight and now lead MOR's favorite conference.

[Xavier]

I saw that the NCAA tournament will be allowing 25% attendance for games. While I don't think players would get it from a fan....it seems like an interesting risk. Last thing NCAA needs is one team to be forced out due to Covid.

[GoMuskies]

I saw that the NCAA tournament will be allowing 25% attendance for games. While I don't think players would get it from a fan....it seems like an interesting risk. Last thing NCAA needs is one team to be forced out due to Covid.

If that do that, no fan is going to be within 50 feet of a player.

If this is the year Xavier finally makes the Final Four, does this mean I'm going to have to pay 4x the normal rate to get in?

[xudash]

If that do that, no fan is going to be within 50 feet of a player.

If this is the year Xavier finally makes the Final Four, does this mean I'm going to have to pay 4x the normal rate to get in?

Please take this the right way: I sincerely hope you experience that problem.

[Xavgrad08]

Louisville is currently losing by 37 at Carolina. Spoiler alert Louisville has not looked good.

[xavierj]

Louisville is currently losing by 37 at Carolina. Spoiler alert Louisville has not looked good.

They are not happy with Chris in Louisville. They Don’t like his recruiting and his teams effort. Two 40 point plus losses after Covid breaks, but they had no one out today that normally plays much.

[Xville]

That powerhouse at John’s team is getting worked by DePaul at home, oh and DePaul has only shot 7 threes with 10 minutes left...huh weird? It’s almost like they know St. John’s is a terrible 2point fg defensive team. Maybe even leitao is a better coach than Steele.

[AviatorX]

That powerhouse at John’s team is getting worked by DePaul at home, oh and DePaul has only shot 7 threes with 10 minutes left...huh weird? It’s almost like they know St. John’s is a terrible 2point fg defensive team. Maybe even leitao is a better coach than Steele.

DePaul is one of the worst 3P shooting teams in the country, so yeah, it's dumb for them to shoot a lot of 3's against anyone. And as we learned the past two seasons, it's very hard to not suck when you can't shoot 3's well and don't shoot enough of them. But please continue to beat this drum based off of one box score.

[xavierj]

That powerhouse at John’s team is getting worked by DePaul at home, oh and DePaul has only shot 7 threes with 10 minutes left...huh weird? It’s almost like they know St. John’s is a terrible 2point fg defensive team. Maybe even leitao is a better coach than Steele.

St John’s shooting 31% for the game, not from three but overall. That probably has something to do with it as well.

[Xville]

St John’s shooting 31% for the game, not from three but overall. That probably has something to do with it as well.

Because their half court offense sucks... DePaul isn’t chucking threes and allowing St. John’s to run and gun up the floor.

[Xville]

DePaul is one of the worst 3P shooting teams in the country, so yeah, it's dumb for them to shoot a lot of 3's against anyone. And as we learned the past two seasons, it's very hard to not suck when you can't shoot 3's well and don't shoot enough of them. But please continue to beat this drum based off of one box score.

I’m actually watching the game...it’s amazing watching a team that’s not good (DePaul) actually know how to play st John’s. It’s almost like they know what the game plan should be against them...weird

Oh and by the way, Xavier is shooting 32 percent in big east play from 3, good for 10th in the league....maybe they shouldn’t shoot so many either.

[AviatorX]

I’m actually watching the game...it’s amazing watching a team that’s not good (DePaul) actually know how to play st John’s. It’s almost like they know what the game plan should be against them...weird

I'm watching too. DePaul doesn't exactly look like a well-oiled machine with some amazing gameplan judging by the technicals they took and turning it over multiple times in the last minute with two timeouts in their pocket. Breaking news: team that is 330/348th in 3P/FGA does not shoot a lot of 3's in one game.

Villanova went 8-30 from deep in their loss to SJU. Terrible game plan from Jay Wright. See what you can do with one game box score sample sizes?

[Xville]

I'm watching too. DePaul doesn't exactly look like a well-oiled machine with some amazing gameplan judging by the technicals they took and turning it over multiple times in the last minute with two timeouts in their pocket.

PS: Villanova went 8-30 from deep in their loss to SJU. Terrible game plan from Jay Wright. See what you can do with one game box score sample sizes?

Of course it’s not a well oiled machine, it’s DePaul. Yet they still played the way you need to against St. John’s...controlling tempo, making them play half court o and d. They beat a “better” team because of the way they played against their opponent.

[AviatorX]

Of course it’s not a well oiled machine, it’s DePaul. Yet they still played the way you need to against St. John’s...controlling tempo, making them play half court o and d. They beat a “better” team because of the way they played against their opponent.

Fair enough. Thank god Xavier plays tomorrow. I am sure we are all ready to stop dissecting it, but Tuesday was probably the worst performance of the Steele era in my view. Maybe the worst defensive performance in modern X history. I'm not low enough on Steele to assume it's going to always be like that going forward and make sweeping changes, but I get that some are.

[JEHARDI]

Did anyone watch the Louisville game against a mediocre UNC team? Maybe it is not so easy to come off of a long COVID layoff firing on all cylinders.

[Xville]

Fair enough. Thank god Xavier plays tomorrow. I am sure we are all ready to stop dissecting it, but Tuesday was probably the worst performance of the Steele era in my view. Maybe the worst defensive performance in modern X history. I'm not low enough on Steele to assume it's going to always be like that going forward and make sweeping changes, but I get that some are.

I was steeles biggest fan for the first two years. I saw the roster issues, saw the positivity and inroads he was making in recruiting and hey he was a first time head coach and so I gave him a pass on a lot of things, but this is the third year and I’m still seeing the same mistakes over and over. The lineup management and the croninesque press conferences are the most concerning for me. Sticking too long with q, starting carter for two freaking years, a quick yank of kyky just because kunkel became eligible... it’s really starting to pile up. As I’ve said over and over, I hope he improves because I think he is one that would stay, but geez i don’t think he’s improved at anything x and o or lineup wise since he started.

[GoMuskies]

UC is currently within 40 of Houston. Impressive!

[xubrew]

UC is currently within 40 of Houston. Impressive!

I guess that's one word for it!

[GoMuskies]

I guess that's one word for it!

Hilarious is really where I was going.

[xubrew]

At today's North Alabama at Liberty game, the campus police towed the cars of everyone on the production crew. They all learned it was happening while they were doing the game. This is hilarious, but it's also a little puzzling. I'm under the impression that if you don't have a designated area for the production crew to park, then chances are your game is not going to be on the air that day. They'll just leave.

[Lloyd Braun]

At today's North Alabama at Liberty game, the campus police towed the cars of everyone on the production crew. They all learned it was happening while they were doing the game. This is hilarious, but it's also a little puzzling. I'm under the impression that if you don't have a designated area for the production crew to park, then chances are your game is not going to be on the air that day. They'll just leave.

The game was a snoozer as well. N Alabama can’t shoot and Liberty plays so slow it was tough to watch... but I did because I had the under 132.

[xubrew]

Last night, two top ten teams lost to opponents that are nowhere near the NCAA Tournament (Illinois and Oklahoma), and a third team (Baylor) had to sweat out what is perhaps the worst P5 team in the country. I guess it's just that kind of year.

[xubrew]

Boston U and Holy Cross are playing for the sixth time tonight. Because 2020-2021

[GoMuskies]

Boston U and Holy Cross are playing for the sixth time tonight. Because 2020-2021

Masks or no masks?

[xubrew]

Masks or no masks?

Who knows anymore? Probably masks before the under 16 timeout and after the under 4 timeout, and no masks for the rest of the game. Studies show those are the times when players are most contagious.

[noteggs]

I realize we barely beat beat Marquette and BE is down this year, but ACC is pretty much garbage this year. See Marquette vs UNC tonight at Carolina.

[xubrew]

The Horizon League Tournament tips off tonight.

HAPPY MARCH MADNESS EVERYBODY!!!

[GoMuskies]

I really would have enjoyed Dayton losing to 2-14 St. Joe's more if last night had not been such a disaster for us.

[waggy]

I see Richmond and Bonaventure both lost at home to end regular season. Richmond's loss was to 4-14 St. Joes.

[GoMuskies]

That's 3 wins in a row for St. Joe's. Maybe they'll win the A-10 Tournament. That would be amazing!

[xubrew]

That's 3 wins in a row for St. Joe's. Maybe they'll win the A-10 Tournament. That would be amazing!

They are 3-0 since Ryan Daly returned. They...might...actually win the A10 Tournament!! I mean, they PROBABLY won't, but they're a lot better with him and the rest of the league ain't that good, so it's not impossible.

[bobbiemcgee]

Wondering when was the last time nobody in the A-10 got a Top 25 spot.

[Xville]

This Baylor-wvu game is the best game of the season.

[GoMuskies]

What exactly is going on at Creighton? Just saw a tweet from one if their assistants that McDermott said something about a plantation, and the players apparently considered quitting? McDermott is totally getting fired since we're currently in silly season.

Things are bad enough I might be in favor of hiring him at Xavier!

[KabeX]

What exactly is going on at Creighton? Just saw a tweet from one if their assistants that McDermott said something about a plantation, and the players apparently considered quitting? McDermott is totally getting fired since we're currently in silly season.

Things are bad enough I might be in favor of hiring him at Xavier!
https://www.bluejayunderground.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5643

[Lloyd Braun]

Yea, but he’s sorry (https://twitter.com/cucoachmac/status/1366881130151034886?s=21)

It’s tough to backpedal from a plantation reference so he just kind of owned it as a whoopsie.

[GoMuskies]

2021 rolls on. Christ

[KabeX]

God Marquette is not good (of course De Paul is well De Paul). Makes Saturday's upcoming L all that more frustrating.

[waggy]

The plantation? WTF?

[xubrew]

Wright State had a 24 point lead over Milwaukee (the 8th place team in the HL), and lost the game in overtime. It’s never easy to lose your last game, whether it’s in the Final Four or the opening round of the conference tournament, it’s still rough. But....that’s gonna sting for a while!!

[xubrew]

That's 3 wins in a row for St. Joe's. Maybe they'll win the A-10 Tournament. That would be amazing!

Saint Joe's wins!! The dream is alive!!

[Xville]

Watching the providence-st John’s game...horschler is absolute garbage and x made him look like an all american

[xubrew]

Saint Joe's wins!! The dream is alive!!

The dream is not looking so good right now....

[Lloyd Braun]

I would like to officially retract comments made in regards to Cade Cunningham. I was a victim of regency bias after a couple stinker games I was less than convinced he was worth any hype. He’s realllly good. His basketball IQ is a lot better than I thought. Count me in... #1

[D-West & PO-Z]

My Billikens got a great draw in the A10 tourney.

They have a shot to make tourney without winning A10 tourney but I just as well rather have them remove all doubt. Although I know that may hurt X but just need X to take care of their own business.

[GoMuskies]

SLU winning the A-10 wouldn't hurt Xavier. It would ensure the A-10 is Juan Bid.

I guess VCU and Bonny are hanging around the hoop, but I wouldn't want to be either of them on Selection Sunday without winning the tournament.

[D-West & PO-Z]

SLU winning the A-10 wouldn't hurt Xavier. It would ensure the A-10 is Juan Bid.

I guess VCU and Bonny are hanging around the hoop, but I wouldn't want to be either of them on Selection Sunday without winning the tournament.

Yeah right now St. Bonaventure and VCU are in on bracket matrix as 10 and 11 seeds. SLU could sneak in without winning the A10 tourney as well if they beat St. Bonaventure and make the finals.

St. Bonaventure has the best resume of the 3 with a NET ranking of 29. VCU is 35 and SLU is 40. They each have 2 quad 1 wins, but if SLU wins today against UMASS who they just beat and then beats the Bonnies in the semis that would give them their 3rd quad 1 win (they already beat the bonnies once). If SLU loses though the Bonnies would pick up another quad 1 win beating SLU.

I highly doubt the A10 will be a one bid league. I think they have a better shot of getting 3 teams in then 1 but will probably end up with 2 teams as most likely.

[sgarcia]

Oklahoma is no longer a Q1 win because they've gone in the tank the past few weeks. Not good for Xavier.

[Xville]

Oklahoma is no longer a Q1 win because they've gone in the tank the past few weeks. Not good for Xavier.

Was about to post the same thing...xs resume is starting to look increasingly mediocre. Even more importantly, that effing oklahoma team kept me from hitting a 5 team parlay yesterday.

[sgarcia]

Was about to post the same thing...xs resume is starting to look increasingly mediocre. Even more importantly, that effing oklahoma team kept me from hitting a 5 team parlay yesterday.

Creighton isn't assured of a top 30 NET either so things are not looking great. They really have to pull out a win tomorrow night or the NCAA tourney is likely a pipe dream.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Billikens move on to face the Bonnies in the A10 semis tomorrow. Must win game for SLU. I think the Bonnies are in win or lose.

SLU beat St. Bonaventure at home in their only meeting this year 70-59.

Go Bills!

[Xville]

Billikens move on to face the Bonnies in the A10 semis tomorrow. Must win game for SLU. I think the Bonnies are in win or lose.

SLU beat St. Bonaventure at home in their only meeting this year 70-59.

Go Bills!

Travis Ford has done a really good job there and seems to have set a good foundation for the future. I wonder if he has aspirations to take another step up one day or if he feels he has been there done that with ok state and is happy where he is at now being in his 50s

[Xville]

turned on the vcu-dayton game for some laughs....wow UD sucks. Toppin hid so much Anthony Grant ineptness

[D-West & PO-Z]

Travis Ford has done a really good job there and seems to have set a good foundation for the future. I wonder if he has aspirations to take another step up one day or if he feels he has been there done that with ok state and is happy where he is at now being in his 50s

Yeah hes definitely cleaned up the mess that Crews left after Majerus brought the team national relevance. I would imagine Ford would probably want another shot at the big time. He may need to make some noise in the tourney though to get that opportunity. SLU should have won the A10 this year but they had crazy long COVID stoppages like X did and lost 2 straight coming out of that stoppage.

With a good coach SLU has everything they need to be a successful program with regular tourney appearances. They have a great on campus arena, money, a lot of fan support, good recruiting area, but need to establish more consistency to really compete with Illinois and Mizzou for recruits. Obviously the A10 limits to some extent who they can get. If the BE ever wanted to expand (which I hope they dont anytime soon because I like the round robin) I think SLU would be a good addition for many reasons.

[GoMuskies]

Sad to see Dayton go down in the QFs.

[xudash]

Sad to see Dayton go down in the QFs.

I thought they wanted to be the Gonzaga of the east?

[GoMuskies]

Congrats to the Fighting Kelseys! 12 seed?

[GoMuskies]

I just saw that UCLA quietly (because who pays attention to Pac-12 sports anymore?) tanked down the stretch, losing their final 3 to the top Pac-12 teams. Very sad! Lunardi has UCLA as a 10 seed (and somehow has Xavier as the last team IN).

[xavierj]

I just saw that UCLA quietly (because who pays attention to Pac-12 sports anymore?) tanked down the stretch, losing their final 3 to the top Pac-12 teams. Very sad! Lunardi has UCLA as a 10 seed (and somehow has Xavier as the last team IN).

Yeah it would be a good idea for Travis and the team to win a couple of games this week.

[paulxu]

Don't know where to put this.
But...after letting my Athletic subscription lapse (was it $60/year?), basically because of no Shannon and reduced X coverage, I'm now getting an offer to renew at $1/month for 24 months.
Maybe their subscriptions are down.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Don't know where to put this.
But...after letting my Athletic subscription lapse (was it $60/year?), basically because of no Shannon and reduced X coverage, I'm now getting an offer to renew at $1/month for 24 months.
Maybe their subscriptions are down.

I just cancelled mine last month after 2 or 3 years of having it. I would probably renew it at that price but now I am just using my dad's subscription, so no need.

[paulxu]

I wonder if someone like Kelsey is being considered at Fordham.

[GoMuskies]

Would Fordham even be a promotion? I think they'd have to dump a truckload of money on Kelsey for him to consider that career killer job.

[paulxu]

Would Fordham even be a promotion? I think they'd have to dump a truckload of money on Kelsey for him to consider that career killer job.

Fordham has a boat load of mega rich graduates. Never understood why they haven't donated to elevate the program/facilities.

[xubrew]

The NCAA seems to be planning a recreation of the Stanford Prison Experiment.

All players and coaches get their own rooms. All must stay in there. They bring the food to you. You can get out for team meetings and practices, but at no other times and you must wear masks and stay six feet apart. You must test negative seven times for seven days in a row before entering the hotel, and will be tested once a day while on sight. You can only be at your games. Even people with credentials can only stay in their team's bubble. You enter after the previous teams have left, and leave before the next group of teams arrive.

WOW!! WHAT A GREAT TIME!!! Everything that's special about the NCAA Tournament, at least for the players, coaches and staffs, will not really exist this year.

EDIT: Oh yea, and you're there for a week!

[bjf123]

Don't know where to put this.
But...after letting my Athletic subscription lapse (was it $60/year?), basically because of no Shannon and reduced X coverage, I'm now getting an offer to renew at $1/month for 24 months.
Maybe their subscriptions are down.

I just canceled mine last week before it auto renewed this week. When I got the popup asking why I was not renewing, I selected “Other” and said it was because they no longer had Shannon, or really anyone, covering Xavier basketball.

I haven’t gotten an offer to renew at a discounted price.


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[GIMMFD]

I just canceled mine last week before it auto renewed this week. When I got the popup asking why I was not renewing, I selected “Other” and said it was because they no longer had Shannon, or really anyone, covering Xavier basketball.

I haven’t gotten an offer to renew at a discounted price.


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I renewed, mainly because I'm on the student discount price (I love you Med School email address), so it's like half-off for me, they really don't care about multiple users on an account it seems like, so if anybody wants a login, let me know haha.

[noteggs]

Can’t believe Oakland is playing for Horizon League tournament championship. Cleveland St up 12 at half, but guess brutal non con schedule paid off.

[paulxu]

Was just watching the ESPN ticker.
Wake was leading by 12 at the 7:19 mark.
They scored 2 points the rest of the way, and lost on a 3 at the buzzer by ND.
Weird.

[Xavier]

The NCAA seems to be planning a recreation of the Stanford Prison Experiment.

All players and coaches get their own rooms. All must stay in there. They bring the food to you. You can get out for team meetings and practices, but at no other times and you must wear masks and stay six feet apart. You must test negative seven times for seven days in a row before entering the hotel, and will be tested once a day while on sight. You can only be at your games. Even people with credentials can only stay in their team's bubble. You enter after the previous teams have left, and leave before the next group of teams arrive.

WOW!! WHAT A GREAT TIME!!! Everything that's special about the NCAA Tournament, at least for the players, coaches and staffs, will not really exist this year.

EDIT: Oh yea, and you're there for a week!

It certainly doesn't sound like it is going to be a blast for the teams. But I get it from the NCAA side...last thing you need is a team or two getting covid and it spreading.

[GoMuskies]

With Arizona being aggressively mediocre this year and still facing all kinds of NCAA allegations, is this the year that Sean Miller finally is shown the door?

[D-West & PO-Z]

With Arizona being aggressively mediocre this year and still facing all kinds of NCAA allegations, is this the year that Sean Miller finally is shown the door?

I think yes.

And if Steele doesnt work out and is shown the door next year, I would welcome Miller back with open arms, as long as it didn't come with any NCAA punishment that he might be receiving.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Teams to root against:

Today:
Syracuse 12pm
Louisville 6:30pm is in the last 4 bye category but they ae playing Duke who we probably dont want to catch fire and win ACC so I guess want UL.


Tomorrow:
Wichita St 12:00pm
Georgia Tech 2:30pm- they are in last 4 byes but probably in either way so maybe better for them to win as to not have a surprise team win? Not sure.
Boise St 5:30 pm
Utah St 9:00pm
Ole Miss 9:00pm
Colorado St 11:30pm

Friday:
Memphis 10:00pm

[GoMuskies]

I'll not join you in this, but you should probably add Wichita State to your Friday list.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'll not join you in this, but you should probably add Wichita State to your Friday list.

Good to know thanks. Would they have a chance to fall out if they lose? I only picked the teams in Lunardi's last 4 in or last 4 byes section. But I know hes not the best.

[Xavier]

I think yes.

And if Steele doesnt work out and is shown the door next year, I would welcome Miller back with open arms, as long as it didn't come with any NCAA punishment that he might be receiving.

In a second. If he made it clear to Xavier he'd come now, I would do it. (If Xavier misses the tournament. If team makes it, you can't really punish Steele IMO). I just would be thrilled with Sean coming back, again provided he doesn't bring any NCAA punishments with him. Maybe bring in the Miller brothers.

[GoMuskies]

Good to know thanks. Would they have a chance to fall out if they lose? I only picked the teams in Lunardi's last 4 in or last 4 byes section. But I know hes not the best.

They're only not there because they're AAC champs and presumptive auto-bid winner, but Houston is obviously the best team and the favorite to win the AAC Tournament. If Wichita State loses to Tulane or South Florida on Friday, they're in danger for sure.

[D-West & PO-Z]

They're only not there because they're AAC champs and presumptive auto-bid winner, but Houston is obviously the best team and the favorite to win the AAC Tournament. If Wichita State loses to Tulane or South Florida on Friday, they're in danger for sure.

Ah, got it, I forgot they got the 1 seed in American.

[drudy23]

Marquette scores 14 first half points in BET opener.

And we just lost to them.

[94GRAD]

Marquette scores 14 first half points in BET opener.

And we just lost to them.

So did UNC at home

[drudy23]

So did UNC at home

They're not very good either.

[drudy23]

Want the committee to take notice - blow the doors off of Butler like Syracuse did to NC State.

[GoMuskies]

Doesn't look like Marquette is going to much turn it around in the second half. Wojo's tenure at Marquette should not survive the return flight to Milwaukee.

[paulxu]

Just in case there is any interest:

https://theathletic.com/checkout2/intro1/2103limited1for24?source=email&campaign=2088841&email_login=1053167241

(may not work if it is email address sensitive)

[GoMuskies]

At least Kentucky managed to scramble back from a big deficit, grab a lead and then squander it in the final seconds thus making their fans even more miserable. Provides some comfort.

[xavierj]

At least Kentucky managed to scramble back from a big deficit, grab a lead and then squander it in the final seconds thus making their fans even more miserable. Provides some comfort.

Yep that’s a shame. Have to imagine Dontaie Allen will look to transfer because if he thought he got screwed on playing time this year wait till cal brings in like 6 or 7 guys for next year. He will play less next year

[bourbonman]

https://twitter.com/rickbozich/status/1370064815855562752?s=21

UofL fans are grumbling.

[UCGRAD4X]

Kunkel-less Belmont falls hard to Morehead.

(I just like the name. Like I used to tell my wife about "Blow-pops". "It's not a candy, it's a request!"

----it didn't help. Thus the term, 'wife').

[UCGRAD4X]

https://twitter.com/rickbozich/status/1370064815855562752?s=21

UofL fans are grumbling.

I love the "Bellarmine to the Big East" comment.

[murray87]

And this name change seems like a bad trend:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/michigan-state-basketball-team-msu-spartans-presented-by-rocket-mortgage-223057968.html

How about Xavier Musketeers presented by Dana Gardens??

[GoMuskies]

Mick Cronin is in March form. 4 straight losses by UCLA capped by blowing a big lead to Oregon State and losing in OT.

[SM#24]

Rick Pitino one game away.

[Lloyd Braun]

Oklahoma State looks dangerous. Damn

[D-West & PO-Z]

Oklahoma State looks dangerous. Damn

Hottest team in the country?

[GoMuskies]

It's kind of hilarious to be able to flip around late night and catch 4 games being played within about 5 miles of each other in Las Vegas.

[Xville]

So glad to see uc getting better and better and one win away from the tourney while Steele shits the bed at the end of every season. Maybe x did hire the wrong guy. Sigh

[XUOWNSUC]

So glad to see uc getting better and better and one win away from the tourney while Steele shits the bed at the end of every season. Maybe x did hire the wrong guy. Sigh

Yup.

[xubrew]

Oklahoma State looks dangerous. Damn

If they win tonight it will be their 7th win against a ranked team in 20 days. That may be some sort of record.

[noteggs]

So glad to see uc getting better and better and one win away from the tourney while Steele shits the bed at the end of every season. Maybe x did hire the wrong guy. Sigh

Hmm... if SucKs gets into tournament this year will be the second biggest punch in the gut. AAC is complete garbage this year minus Houston. Might be a little easier to look better in this league? So won’t make any assumptions on best hiring decisions.

Both coaches have been very questionable with game plan and adjustments, but have you seen Brennan’s recruiting the last couple of years? No thanks as of now.

[xubrew]

Creighton woke up this morning and realized it was March.

[AviatorX]

Jason Carter-less Ohio U wins the MAC tournament and going dancing.

[JTG]

Jason Carter-less Ohio U wins the MAC tournament and going dancing.

Karma's a bitch.

[Xville]

At least uc is going to not make the tourney. I can stop sniffing glue now.

[D-West & PO-Z]

At least uc is going to not make the tourney. I can stop sniffing glue now.

Thank.....and I cant emphasize this enough.....God.

[paulxu]

They got butt stomped.

[Lloyd Braun]

Winthrop over Nova? Would cement Kelsey as next coach hahaha

[Xville]

Winthrop over Nova? Would cement Kelsey as next coach hahaha

Creighton and nova I think are both going one and done

[GoMuskies]

Demonstrated ability to beat Nova would certainly be a nice plus on the resume if we're looking for a coach.

[GoMuskies]

We didn't quite catch the first four out. We suck.