2020-2021 pga tour thread

[94GRAD]

Starts next Thursday with the US Open at Winged Foot. Good luck to Jason during the new season!!!

[paulxu]

We'll have 2 Masters in the same season?

[94GRAD]

We'll have 2 Masters in the same season?

And 2 US Opens

[joe titan]

We'll have 2 Masters in the same season?

Though Jason qualified for the November Masters, not so sure he is qualified as yet for next April.

[noteggs]

Though Jason qualified for the November Masters, not so sure he is qualified as yet for next April.

True. Masters hasn’t decided on their qualifying criteria for next April.

[Xville]

Hes top 60 now in the world golf rankings, pretty sure that gets him invited to basically everything as of right now.

[X-band '01]

Starts next Thursday with the US Open at Winged Foot. Good luck to Jason during the new season!!!

Technically, it starts this week with the Safeway Open out in the Bay Area. Of course, I can't see too many big names in that field as they try to rest between the Tour Championship and the US Open.

And BTW, it's nice to see the US Open back on NBC where it belongs (albeit just this year).

[X-band '01]

Hes top 60 now in the world golf rankings, pretty sure that gets him invited to basically everything as of right now.

Damn - he's up to #55 this week. Didn't think he would be that high after what was frankly a lackluster season compared to recent years. That will at least keep him in the WGC events at a minimum.

[paulxu]

Need top 50 for Masters, unless some other exemption applies.

Edit: he was 44th last year, which I assume got him in this year's Masters.

[94GRAD]

Need top 50 for Masters, unless some other exemption applies.

Edit: he was 44th last year, which I assume got him in this year's Masters.

Playing in the Tour Championship last year('19) got him into everything this year('20)

[paulxu]

Playing in the Tour Championship last year('19) got him into everything this year('20)

Outstanding! I hope he gets a win or 2 this year.

[Lloyd Braun]

I had a tough time with picks for this week but this is what I have:
Simpson 25-1
Morikawa 16-1
Berger 28-1

[GoMuskies]

Did anyone get Davis Thompson at like a trillion to 1? Despite his nine hole lead, he's probably still available at approximately 1 billion to one.

I have a Morikawa as my main bet also at 16-1. Small Kokrak bet at 150-1.

[paulxu]

Jason hanging around with a -1 so far.

[GoMuskies]

Looks like he drove the green on the par 4 6th (his 15th hole). Hopefully he can convert.

[Lloyd Braun]

I always put a small amount on Jason but decided against it this week in his best interest.

[GoMuskies]

I always put a small amount on Jason but decided against it this week in his best interest.

Well, hopefully we'll find out that YOU'RE the jinx and not me.

[Lloyd Braun]

Well, hopefully we'll find out that YOU'RE the jinx and not me.

Pretty sure I’m not the only jinx here... last years thread confirmed that I believe.

[GoMuskies]

I mean, first round 68 at the US Open isn't TERRIBLE.

[Lloyd Braun]

Was nice to see him tap in for birdie on his last hole. Nice round...

[Xville]

Leader in the clubhouse at -2...played easy this morning and he took advantage. Only going to get harder but great to see him on the leaderboard.

[GoMuskies]

I just hope that fuck Patrick Reed throws in a quadruple bogey soon so that I don't have to see his name at the top of the leaderboard anymore.

[Lloyd Braun]

Well, hopefully we'll find out that YOU'RE the jinx and not me.

Hmmmmm more evidence that neither of us are good luck:


I have a Morikawa as my main bet also at 16-1.

Morikawa closing in on +6 for the round.

[BENWAR]

I just hope that fuck Patrick Reed throws in a quadruple bogey soon so that I don't have to see his name at the top of the leaderboard anymore.

Ha! He was my pick in my golf pool!

Not a fan of his antics either but IMO he’s the best putter on tour.

[paulxu]

Only a few rounds under par so far this morning.
Hope Jason gets off to a good start for his afternoon round.

[GoMuskies]

Second round is officially underway for Jason. Opened with a par. For now, he's tied for the lead among those out on the course.

[X-band '01]

Bubba Watson the only guy with a subpar round so far today.

[GoMuskies]

Bubba Watson the only guy with a subpar round so far today.

Preston Summerhays is -1 after 1....

[X-band '01]

Call me back in 4 hours when the rest of the field is in the clubhouse.

[GoMuskies]

Bryson DeChamD-Bag just eagled his 18th hole to finish a two under 68 second round.

Jason, unfortunately, is headed the wrong direction.

[paulxu]

Yikes. Come on Jason.

[Xville]

i think it is going to be a struggle for him to make the cut unless something drastically changes. He seems to be "on tilt" if you will.

[GoMuskies]

US Open.com gives him a 90.8% chance to make the cut at the moment.

[Xville]

US Open.com gives him a 90.8% chance to make the cut at the moment.

i was trying the reverse jinx...way to eff it up :)

[GoMuskies]

Jason had a 16 foot putt for eagle on #9, but the pathetic loser ended up only making a tap in birdie to get to even par (tied for 7th).

(Too far?)

[Lloyd Braun]

Putting for eagle on 9. No way he makes it

Edit - Damn. Slow feed.

[GoMuskies]

The 10th hole is featured at USOpen.com if you want to catch a glimpse of Jason hitting a shot live.

And....McIlroy, Scott and Rose are all at #6, so they're ignoring the other two featured holes. They literally showed those guys walking down the 6th fairway instead of showing actual play at the 10th. Annoying.

[murray87]

I just got my rejection email today for the 2021 Masters lottery. That's my tradition like no other unfortunately :thumbsdown:

[Lloyd Braun]

Even though he is in the top 10 and 3 shots back it says his win probability is 1%....

[GoMuskies]

Bryson and Reed take up 43% of the win probability on their own. And 99.9% of the douchebaggery.

[paulxu]

If the FedEx deal was the end of the 2019-20 golf year, and now a new year has started...what do they do with the points or dollars, or whatever they use to keep track, of these tournaments that are really last years'...like the Open and the Masters?

[paulxu]

They just showed Jason putting a birdie to get his total back to even :)

[GoMuskies]

They just showed Jason putting a birdie to get his total back to even :)

I bet he very nearly missed it. Bum!

[xudash]

They seem to like taking live commercial breaks when they show Jason swinging a club.

[GoMuskies]

JT seems to have lost his way. He's 5 over for the day now and one back of a certain Xavier alum overall.

[paulxu]

And another one!!

(I'm the good jinx guy)

[Xville]

My reverse jinx worked...I'll pat myself on the back now :)

[GoMuskies]

Did he hit a tree or something on 16? The shot tracker makes it look like his third shot went backwards.

[paulxu]

I don't know what happened but he gave back the bird.

[Lloyd Braun]

I don't know what happened but he gave back the bird.

Lots of jinxes the last few posts. That’s what happened.

[GoMuskies]

Sergio is going to need at least one birdie in the his last 4 to break 80. Tiger is headed that way, too, as I suspect he's in WGAF mode at this point.

[paulxu]

One more bird! Come on Jason.

[GoMuskies]

One more bird! Come on Jason.

Expect a double bogey.

[paulxu]

Hoping for a good par.

[paulxu]

Got it.
Looks like Jason has lost a bunch of weight.
Here's hoping for a good weekend.

[XUGRAD80]

-1 and in the first page of the leaderboard going into the weekend!

[GoMuskies]

Jason and JT tomorrow. My dream pairing.

[Lloyd Braun]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2020/09/18/kokrak-remains-in-hunt-at-us-open-with-steady-second-round/42662035/

[X-band '01]

If the FedEx deal was the end of the 2019-20 golf year, and now a new year has started...what do they do with the points or dollars, or whatever they use to keep track, of these tournaments that are really last years'...like the Open and the Masters?

It'll just count for 2020-21.

[paulxu]

It'll just count for 2020-21.

Thanks.

[noteggs]

Jason and JT tomorrow. My dream pairing.

We might even get a glimpse of his shoes on TV when JT lines up his putt. At least that will be camera time.

[Lloyd Braun]

70 would be a great round today. Looks like it’s playing tough again.

[GoMuskies]

That tee shot at #1 was typical.

(Let's get this started)

[94GRAD]

He's is one of the two feature groups on usopen.com if you want to watch most of his shots. Just saw his tee shot on 3, YIKES!

[GoMuskies]

Thomas and Kokrak appear to be playing day three of a drunken member/guest so far.

[94GRAD]

YUUUUUGE bogie save there

[Xville]

Kokrak is the worst golfer on the planet...I have never seen a guy hit the ball so much like a sissy...what a hack...

[xudash]

Thomas and Kokrak appear to be playing day three of a drunken member/guest so far.

Now that’s just funny.

And actually familiar.

[94GRAD]

Now that’s just funny.

And actually familiar.

You drink Dash?

[xu82]

You drink Dash?

If you DON’T drink, golf might just drive you to start.....

[Lloyd Braun]

Well fuck

[GoMuskies]

Jason should be more relaxed tomorrow. And if he plays well tomorrow, top 10 or 15 is still quite possible. Not the result he was looking for coming into today, but it would overall be a great showing.

[murray87]

DeChambeau hit PW on a 170 yard par 3 earlier. That's sick.

[bjf123]

DeChambeau hit PW on a 170 yard par 3 earlier. That's sick.

That’s just wrong.


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[Masterofreality]

DeChambeau hit PW on a 170 yard par 3 earlier. That's sick.

Dude's swing looks just like those "Long Drive Championship" guys from Mesquite Nevada.

But he gets it done, in the long line of odd swingers like Lee Trevino, Arnold Palmer, Jim Furyk and Bubba.

[GoMuskies]

Wrong tour (Korn Ferry), but the Wichita Open is in town and being played about half a mile from my house. If anyone knows Andy Pope, tell him there's a Muskie nearby who has some beers with his name on them. Or just send him to the party house behind the 6th tee and tell the homeowners their Wichita Xavier friend sent him. He'll be welcomed right in.

[paulxu]

Well hi there...I'm Andy Pope.

[GoMuskies]

Well hi there...I'm Andy Pope.

Come on over. But I have bourbon for you.

[paulxu]

Come on over. But I have bourbon for you.

Brilliant !

[94GRAD]

Wrong tour (Korn Ferry), but the Wichita Open is in town and being played about half a mile from my house. If anyone knows Andy Pope, tell him there's a Muskie nearby who has some beers with his name on them. Or just send him to the party house behind the 6th tee and tell the homeowners their Wichita Xavier friend sent him. He'll be welcomed right in.

I sent Andy a text about the party house on #6!

[GoMuskies]

Rough start for Andy so far today. 12 holes left to get at least 2 more under par to make the cut. If he misses the cut, my offer changes from buying beer to buying shots tonight!

[paulxu]

Sadly no flights from Spartanburg to Wichita.

[GoMuskies]

Jason is 4 under through 7 holes in Las Vegas today. That's not terrible.

[X-man]

Just birdied the par 3 17th, his 8th hole of the day, to go 5 under on his round. Go JK!!!

[Xville]

Good news: kokrak is in 5th after 2 rounds
Bad news: 6 shots back because of xander

[Lloyd Braun]

More bad news: Jay bogied first hole today. He’s toast.

[GoMuskies]

More bad news: Jay bogied first hole today. He’s toast.

He's a bum.

[Xville]

T-2...I know the jinx, but has a chance to win his first one tomorrow.

[Xville]

2 back....have an odd feeling hes gonna win this one. I probably just effed him

[X-band '01]

Another sign I'm getting old - Phil Mickelson now competing on the Champions Tour.

[GoMuskies]

Is this a real tour event? It's barely on TV. I know the names in it are good, but I'm just wondering how it "counts". Are there FedEx points awarded? Exemptions triggered by winning, etc?

[X-man]

Is this a real tour event? It's barely on TV. I know the names in it are good, but I'm just wondering how it "counts". Are there FedEx points awarded? Exemptions triggered by winning, etc?

Yes to all questions. TV coverage starts at 5.

[Lloyd Braun]

Two shot lead got Jay after 4 straight birds. I’m afraid he blew his wad on the front nine.

[GoMuskies]

Two shot lead got Jay after 4 straight birds. I’m afraid he blew his wad on the front nine.

How will he choke this away?

[Lloyd Braun]

Is this a real tour event? It's barely on TV. I know the names in it are good, but I'm just wondering how it "counts". Are there FedEx points awarded? Exemptions triggered by winning, etc?

Winner gets $1.7million American dollars.

[GoMuskies]

Winner gets $1.7million American dollars.

Is that a lot? I understand all these guys are already big winners just for getting to play Shadow Creek all week. Supposed to be spectacular.

[Lloyd Braun]

Lezzgooo!

[Lloyd Braun]

Fire emoji

[GoMuskies]

Xander certainly isn't going to make this easy for Jason.

[paulxu]

Come on Jason!

[Lloyd Braun]

Xander certainly isn't going to make this easy for Jason.

2nd place still gets a million

[GoMuskies]

Two holes...

[noteggs]

This is awesome to watch!

[GoMuskies]

Sweet drive on 18

[Xville]

One more good swing and he probably.does it. Come on kokrak

[GoMuskies]

Perfect. Two putts to win.

[XUGRAD80]

That should do it! 2 putts from here and no way you lose!

[noteggs]

Mid major match up? WTF!

[GoMuskies]

Obviously Henley will hole out from the fairway.

[XUGRAD80]

JASON! CHAMPION!

Put that in in your MID-Major pipe and smoke it!

[bjf123]

Congrats, Jason!


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[Xville]

Great job kokrak! Had that feeling today he was finally going to do it....x represents

[GoMuskies]

It's over! Congrats Jason!

[Lloyd Braun]

Congrats to Jay! I feel we had a role in this.

[Xville]

Mid major announcer

[waggy]

What a final round. I figured he needed at least a 66 to win. He's put the former 71/72nd hole challenges behind him.

[XUGRAD80]

Mid major announcer


And he’s getting ate up on Twitter for that comment too! Haahahahaha!

[GoMuskies]

Way to make the announcer correct himself Xavier nation.

[waggy]

And he’s getting ate up on Twitter for that comment too! Haahahahaha!

What's the guy's name?

[bjf123]

And he’s getting ate up on Twitter for that comment too! Haahahahaha!

As he should!


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[xu 89]

such a great win! congrats Jason!

[paulxu]

Great job Jason. Next one will be easier. Monkey gone.

Does anyone know what the Master's field will look like?
Will it be the people per their eligibility as of April when it was scheduled to be played?

[GoMuskies]

I just hope Jason can find a place to celebrate tonight in a sleepy little town like Vegas.

[paulxu]

Read the ESPN article, and it said he's an ambassador for the MGM Resorts that own the course and he's played it a couple dozen times.
I would think he'd be at the MGM tonight.

[GoMuskies]

Read the ESPN article, and it said he's an ambassador for the MGM Resorts that own the course and he's played it a couple dozen times.
I would think he'd be at the MGM tonight.

I'd go Bellagio, then. It's an MGM resort. The MGM itself would at best be my third choice from that family (Bellagio, Aria, Mandalay Bay).

[Lloyd Braun]

I just hope Jason can find a place to celebrate tonight in a sleepy little town like Vegas.

Make it rain...

Side note, I put $1 on him (as I do almost weekly) to win at 100-1. I’m sure I’ve well surpassed $100 on Kokrak bets in my lifetime, but hey I’ll take it!

[paulxu]

Make it rain...

Side note, I put $1 on him (as I do almost weekly) to win at 100-1. I’m sure I’ve well surpassed $100 on Kokrak bets in my lifetime, but hey I’ll take it!

Hah! I bet it may be a while before you see 100-1.

[bobbiemcgee]

Qualified now for 2 Masters. Wow!

[Lloyd Braun]

I’m pretty sure winning this qualifies him for EVERYTHING the next two years...

[X-band '01]

No spoilers please - watching the Golf Channel replay

;-)

[WCWIII]

Congrats Jason! It has been so much fun watching and rooting for him, understanding what it means just to secure your card each year, seeing his world rianking move well into the top 100, seeing him a couple years ago live at Medinah when I followed him all round and to be right there when he stuck it close and made birdie on 18 to finish 30th in the FedEx cup, and now for his first win.

[murray87]

Congrats Jason, you had it all working 4 straight days! Such a small margin of error on the tour.

[XUGRAD80]

Congrats Jason............ Such a small margin of error on the tour.

When I consider that I can’t usually go one hole without hitting a bad shot, and he had to go almost a complete round without hitting even one bad shot....whew! Pretty obvious why he’s out there while the rest of us smucks are sitting at home and hacking it on the weekends. Small margin indeed!

I’ve played just about every sport there is and I firmly believe that golf is the most difficult one to really master. In most other sports you can be really good in just one area or skill, and you can be successful. But if you want to win at the professional level of golf, you’ve got to be really good at all the different skills.

[bleedXblue]

I’m pretty sure winning this qualifies him for EVERYTHING the next two years...

Yes it does So he technically gets in the next 3 Masters

[xuwillie]

And now #26 in the world. Awesome.

[paulxu]

I would love to see him and Tiger play a round together at the Masters.

[joe titan]

For those interested in Jason's tools:

https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2020/10/18/winners-bag-jason-kokrak-cj-cup/

[Lloyd Braun]

He was 1st in strokes gained putting for probably the first time ever. I noticed he is more upright putting too and the link Joe provided shows what looks like a longer putter but hard to say for sure. I would guess that has played a large role in his sudden hot putting.

[Xville]

He was 1st in strokes gained putting for probably the first time ever. I noticed he is more upright putting too and the link Joe provided shows what looks like a longer putter but hard to say for sure. I would guess that has played a large role in his sudden hot putting.

Yeah...when he was interviewed after, they asked him about his putting. He said he switched to a '36 and it made all the difference this week.

[paulxu]

Does he still have the "X" on his bag?

[paulxu]

I didn't get to watch any of it live. So this is a nice recap of his last 2 days (without commercials) and a brief interview with him at the end.

https://www.pgatour.com/daily-wrapup/2020/10/18/jason-kokrak-wins-2020-the-cj-cup-at-shadow-creek-las-vegas.html

I think he dropped the X off his bag.

[waggy]

News conference:

https://www.pgatour.com/video/2020/10/18/jason-kokrak_s-news-conference-after-winning-the-cj-cup-.html

[Masterofreality]

Sweet drive on 18

That was an unbelieveable adrenaline fueled drive on 18. 342 over a weeping willow, water and bunkers, hits the downslope and only has a wedge to the green. If anybody thought Jay didn't have the stones, that just proved that wrong right there.

As I've said before. The only thing holding him back was the flat stick. Now with his 36" putter, his caddy who can read greens like a book and his newly found confidence, the guy is set up to do really great things. And the mid-30's are the prime age for Tour players so I'm looking for big things from Jay going forward.

[Masterofreality]

I’m pretty sure winning this qualifies him for EVERYTHING the next two years...

It does. An exemption for all events through the 2022-2023 season, two Masters, two US Opens, two PGA's and invires to low field special no cut events that can make Him a LOT of extra money. Those WGC events are like free cash to these guys with only 70 players and no cut. I'm sure a bunch more endorsements too. Already has earned over $15 million on the Tours.


Dude just set the rest of his life up. Congratulations.

[Masterofreality]

Congrats Jason! It has been so much fun watching and rooting for him, understanding what it means just to secure your card each year, seeing his world rianking move well into the top 100, seeing him a couple years ago live at Medinah when I followed him all round and to be right there when he stuck it close and made birdie on 18 to finish 30th in the FedEx cup, and now for his first win.

He's now World Ranked #26.

Not bad for a kid from Warren, OH who now is living in Cleveland. YA, BABY!

[X-man]

That was an unbelieveable adrenaline fueled drive on 18. 342 over a weeping willow, water and bunkers, hits the downslope and only has a wedge to the green. If anybody thought Jay didn't have the stones, that just proved that wrong right there.

As I've said before. The only thing holding him back was the flat stick. Now with his 36" putter, his caddy who can read greens like a book and his newly found confidence, the guy is set up to do really great things. And the mid-30's are the prime age for Tour players so I'm looking for big things from Jay going forward.

I have said the same. If that extra length in the putter shaft, allowing him to stand taller over his putts, really solves his putting issues, he will be a force going forward. Besides his putting over the weekend, I thought his distance control was outstanding. And his caddie is truly a force as well. All good looking forward.

[bobbiemcgee]

He couldn't miss a putt inside 10 feet. Amazing.

[Lloyd Braun]

Sure, he has won over $15 million, won a PGA Tour event after a flawless 64 Sunday round... but his greatest feat, perhaps, is bringing X-MAN, MOR, bobbie, waggy, Paul, xville, and this ENTIRE BOARD together in harmony singing Kumbaya....

ALL HAIL KING KOKRAK! To Jason! Here here

[paulxu]

Count me in. MOR's covering my entry fee.

[94GRAD]

Jason has started birdie, birdie, triple today.

[GoMuskies]

Jason has started birdie, birdie, triple today.

Triple birdie? That's amazing!

[bobbiemcgee]

Triple birdie? That's amazing!

Was it a hole in one on a par 4 or an eagle on a par5? ha

[SM#24]

-3 thru 13; 6 birdies to go with that triple

[GoMuskies]

Jason seems to be playing pretty well again (-3 today through 11), but Justin Thomas is pissed that he got beat by Jason last week (he tossed his ball in the lake after putting out on 18 while Jason stood in the fairway waiting hit his clinching approach) and is taking out on the entire field right now. -14 (-7 today) with 4 holes to play still.

[SM#24]

Birdie’d 4 in row. -7, -10 overall thru 16, T10.

[paulxu]

If he'd just parred #3 yesterday, he'd be one off the pace. Golf :(

[Lloyd Braun]

On a personal note: Fingers crossed for Ancer and of course Kokrak

[paulxu]

I hope Jason is playing some practice rounds in Augusta.

[94GRAD]

I hope Jason is playing some practice rounds in Augusta.

His first practice round is today.

[noteggs]

Weird to see fans at golf tournament. Kinda got used to not seeing them.

[Masterofreality]

Masters Week!!!

[Lloyd Braun]

Masters Week!!!

+1

Jay paired with Xander and Stensen... need to generate a good wager. Anyone have a favorite?

[Masterofreality]

+1

Jay paired with Xander and Stensen... need to generate a good wager. Anyone have a favorite?

That's a good pairing for Jay. He and Xander are buddies and should have fun playing together. A little more comfort for your opening rounds at Augusta.

[Lloyd Braun]

Ok I took:
Fowler top ten +250
Molinari +15000 (Because...2020)
Xander +1500
Kokrak +10000
Finau +2800

[bobbiemcgee]

Irishman Shane Lowry. He's used to playing in the slop. His father was a mudder, his mother was a mudder....

[GIMMFD]

Ok I took:
Fowler top ten +250
Molinari +15000 (Because...2020)
Xander +1500
Kokrak +10000
Finau +2800

Koepka Top 5 +400
DeChambeau to finish higher than Rory McIlroy +100
Morikawa Top 5 +600
Webb Simpson Top 10 +300
Dustin Johnson + Rory + Patrick Cantlay to all hit the fairway on the first hole +400
Dustin Johnson + Rahm + Koepka + Xander + Morikawa all to make the cut +225

[bjf123]

Round 1 of The Masters currently suspended due to rain.


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[Xville]

Round 1 of The Masters currently suspended due to rain.


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F this year...seriously f it

[boozehound]

I'm making my not-so-triumphant return to Golf this year after about a 5 year layoff due to having 3 young children, moving for work, etc. Last week I joined a Country Club that is about 5 min from my house, so I'm looking to get back to playing regularly.

I'm excited to watch the Masters, but haven't kept up with the game for a while. Who should I be watching? Last time I followed it was McIlroy, Fowler, Johnson, that were kind of billed as the 'next wave of greats'. Is that still true?

[Xville]

I'm making my not-so-triumphant return to Golf this year after about a 5 year layoff due to having 3 young children, moving for work, etc. Last week I joined a Country Club that is about 5 min from my house, so I'm looking to get back to playing regularly.

I'm excited to watch the Masters, but haven't kept up with the game for a while. Who should I be watching? Last time I followed it was McIlroy, Fowler, Johnson, that were kind of billed as the 'next wave of greats'. Is that still true?

You can add in Xander, dechambeau, Rahm, and justin thomas to that list...and of course our very own kokrak. Welcome back. Best and most frustrating game all at the same time.

[murray87]

Imagine being that young amateur that's in the early group with Tiger and Shane Lowry. Enjoy it kid!

[boozehound]

You can add in Xander, dechambeau, Rahm, and justin thomas to that list...and of course our very own kokrak. Welcome back. Best and most frustrating game all at the same time.

Thanks. Never heard of those guys, so clearly I have some studying to do!

Golf is a frustrating game. I'm not naturally good at it, either. I used to play about 1.5x per week and never really got below a 17 handicap. So far it looks like I have added about 7 strokes to that during my layoff, which is better than I expected. I do play to start off with some lessons this time to hopefully work out my swing flaws. There is nothing like being out on the course though - I've definitely missed it.

The course I have joined has impossible greens (seriously - they are probably too difficult. Lots of good golfers 4-putt) and is a little tight, so it will be a good challenge. But it is 5 min from my house, a lot of my neighbors belong, and they have a great 'under 40' rate that makes it extremely affordable, so that's kind of where I'm stuck playing. Although it's a major challenge coming back.

[paulxu]

What's a "under 40 rate?" My kids aren't even under 40.
Maybe that's a handicap deal.

[Xville]

Thanks. Never heard of those guys, so clearly I have some studying to do!

Golf is a frustrating game. I'm not naturally good at it, either. I used to play about 1.5x per week and never really got below a 17 handicap. So far it looks like I have added about 7 strokes to that during my layoff, which is better than I expected. I do play to start off with some lessons this time to hopefully work out my swing flaws. There is nothing like being out on the course though - I've definitely missed it.

The course I have joined has impossible greens (seriously - they are probably too difficult. Lots of good golfers 4-putt) and is a little tight, so it will be a good challenge. But it is 5 min from my house, a lot of my neighbors belong, and they have a great 'under 40' rate that makes it extremely affordable, so that's kind of where I'm stuck playing. Although it's a major challenge coming back.

Forgot to add in some of the young guns.....Matthew Wolff and collin morikawa. Morikawa won the pga this year and I think he is 23? Wolff was second I believe at the us open and has a couple of tourney wins under his belt.

I'm not naturally good at golf either which is frustrating because I consider myself a decent athlete, but I'm a 13 handicap and dont see myself ever getting much better than that because with the young kids, dont really have time for lessons, and then by the time they grow up, I'm going to be too old to suddenly improve by much. However, I love it and enjoy the 18 I get to play every couple of weeks at the country club I belong and enjoy the competition at the club events.

[murray87]

The masters.com site is really slick. They have a new feature called 'my group' that allows you to select your favorites to follow and it shows all their shots. Jason on hole #1 now

[GoMuskies]

First hole was good...until he got on the green. :(

[boozehound]

What's a "under 40 rate?" My kids aren't even under 40.
Maybe that's a handicap deal.

They actually call it an 'advancing professional' rate. It is literally like 1/2 of the normal rate for people over 40. I'm 38, so I have one more year after this one! This particular club has seen some hard times, went semi-public, etc. so they have been looking to build membership.

This year they got 70 new members (people working from home and/or otherwise bored during COVID like myself) so they don't have to open to the public anymore.

It's definitely not a high-end place, but I played with a neighbor of mine who is a member and was surprised at how decent it was for the cost, so I decided to sign up. I'm likely working from home until next summer anyways, so more time to Golf!

[GoMuskies]

They ought to put you on their marketing team: "Surprisingly decent for the cost!" :)

[boozehound]

Forgot to add in some of the young guns.....Matthew Wolff and collin morikawa. Morikawa won the pga this year and I think he is 23? Wolff was second I believe at the us open and has a couple of tourney wins under his belt.

I'm not naturally good at golf either which is frustrating because I consider myself a decent athlete, but I'm a 13 handicap and dont see myself ever getting much better than that because with the young kids, dont really have time for lessons, and then by the time they grow up, I'm going to be too old to suddenly improve by much. However, I love it and enjoy the 18 I get to play every couple of weeks at the country club I belong and enjoy the competition at the club events.

13 is pretty solid. You can play with almost anyone at that handicap. I'd be pretty happy to get down to a 13, particularly if I did so without spending a ton of time playing / practicing.

[boozehound]

They ought to put you on their marketing team: "Surprisingly decent for the cost!" :)

Yeah, I'm quite the ambassador.

[GoMuskies]

We get super spoiled out here. I pay less than $300/month for a really nice course. That still translates to about $900/round for me, sadly.

[SM#24]

A not unexpected Jason start - bogey, then birdie

[paulxu]

Is a provisional shot one taken in case a ball is lost? (you can tell I'm not a golfer)
DeChambeau took a second shot from the same place. And it went in the water.

[GoMuskies]

I don't think they hit provisionals on the PGA Tour. That's what you do when you're hacking around on the weekend with your golfing buddies.

[paulxu]

He did hit 2 shots from the same place. I thought I heard someone say on the audio "provisional."
He found his ball in the bushes, and ended up with a 7.

[bjf123]

I'm making my not-so-triumphant return to Golf this year after about a 5 year layoff due to having 3 young children, moving for work, etc. Last week I joined a Country Club that is about 5 min from my house, so I'm looking to get back to playing regularly.

I'm excited to watch the Masters, but haven't kept up with the game for a while. Who should I be watching? Last time I followed it was McIlroy, Fowler, Johnson, that were kind of billed as the 'next wave of greats'. Is that still true?

I’m hoping to do the same next year after layoff of almost 10 years. A 25% payout in the recession of 2008 resulted in changing from a full membership to social, which only let me play one round each month when I used to play twice a week. After a few years of that I lost my job so golf stopped completely. A bankruptcy followed but I made the final payment on that last month.

I never cleared out my locker at the club, telling them I would be back. I just hope I remember the combination to the lock! The lowest I ever had my handicap was 4. It usually stayed between 5 and 7. No clue what it will jump to when I start playing next year. I’ve been hitting balls at a local range. My swing still seems decent, but I’ve lost a lot of yardage. I’m about 3 clubs different from before.


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[noteggs]

Not sure it will stay featured story on attachment, but JK is his sleeper to win.

https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/2020-masters-live-stream-watch-online-tiger-woods-in-round-1-coverage-thursday-schedule-tv-channel/

[boozehound]

We get super spoiled out here. I pay less than $300/month for a really nice course. That still translates to about $900/round for me, sadly.

I'm at $4K with no buy-in and no F&B minimum, which for South Jersey is a steal. Playing a shitty public course around here costs like $85. My family also gets access to a pool (that we probably won't use because we belong to another swim club in our neighborhood) and clubhouse with restaurant that has a big patio etc. I'm not sure how it's so cheap.


I’m hoping to do the same next year after layoff of almost 10 years. A 25% payout in the recession of 2008 resulted in changing from a full membership to social, which only let me play one round each month when I used to play twice a week. After a few years of that I lost my job so golf stopped completely. A bankruptcy followed but I made the final payment on that last month.

I never cleared out my locker at the club, telling them I would be back. I just hope I remember the combination to the lock! The lowest I ever had my handicap was 4. It usually stayed between 5 and 7. No clue what it will jump to when I start playing next year. I’ve been hitting balls at a local range. My swing still seems decent, but I’ve lost a lot of yardage. I’m about 3 clubs different from before.
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Glad to hear you are getting back into it. I would imagine that as a single digit handicap you will probably have more work to get back there, but it'll probably come back quickly. I used to golf with my Dad a lot, and he was single digit for a while - the problem there is that one bad hole can really kill your round!

[Final4]

I’m hoping to do the same next year after layoff of almost 10 years. A 25% payout in the recession of 2008 resulted in changing from a full membership to social, which only let me play one round each month when I used to play twice a week. After a few years of that I lost my job so golf stopped completely. A bankruptcy followed but I made the final payment on that last month.

I never cleared out my locker at the club, telling them I would be back. I just hope I remember the combination to the lock! The lowest I ever had my handicap was 4. It usually stayed between 5 and 7. No clue what it will jump to when I start playing next year. I’ve been hitting balls at a local range. My swing still seems decent, but I’ve lost a lot of yardage. I’m about 3 clubs different from before.


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I'm almost 70 years old and have noticed the same thing regarding lost yardage. In my mind's eye my swing (and swing speed) is identical to what it was 20 years ago so I've convinced myself that the problem is actually with the golf ball. They're making shitty golf balls these days.

[bjf123]

I'm almost 70 years old and have noticed the same thing regarding lost yardage. In my mind's eye my swing (and swing speed) is identical to what it was 20 years ago so I've convinced myself that the problem is actually with the golf ball. They're making shitty golf balls these days.

I’ll blame the clubs, too! I’m playing with a set of Tommy Armour 845s irons that are probably 20+ years old. I played Wilson Staff Tour Blades for the 20 or so years before that.


Glad to hear you are getting back into it. I would imagine that as a single digit handicap you will probably have more work to get back there, but it'll probably come back quickly. I used to golf with my Dad a lot, and he was single digit for a while - the problem there is that one bad hole can really kill your round!

My game used to be 5-6 bogeys, with maybe one double each round, with birdies being few and far between. My goal each round was to be one over for each 3 holes, which worked out well at the club I was in. I’d usually bogey 2,4, 9, 10, 13 or 14, and 16 or 17.


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[SM#24]

Three of each on the front (bogey, par, birdie) for an E front. Birdied 11, has a birdie chance on 12 right now.

[Lloyd Braun]

Barely missed a long eagle on 13... thought it was curling in.

[GoMuskies]

He's kind of killing it.

[BENWAR]

He's kind of killing it.

Into the water!

[bobbiemcgee]

what would happen if westwood walked into it?

[SM#24]

I believe play it as it lies but I'll let the golf experts correct if I'm wrong.

[Xville]

If there is a disappointing 71, kokrak just shot it.

[bobbiemcgee]

Could have been worse after carding 5 bogeys.

[Lloyd Braun]

I believe play it as it lies but I'll let the golf experts correct if I'm wrong.

Not an expert per se but this is correct.

[Masterofreality]

If there is a disappointing 71, kokrak just shot it.

Yeah. He let a couple of holes get away from him. 15 especially.

[Lloyd Braun]

Justin Thomas looking good. His game matches well here... Kokrak with some mental errors today, but he has improved so much in the last couple years, I think he’s poised for a breakout year. I loved the comment the announcer had today about his swing on 16 tee, how he has a smooth swing and just thumps the ball. Very true...

[Xville]

Justin Thomas looking good. His game matches well here... Kokrak with some mental errors today, but he has improved so much in the last couple years, I think he’s poised for a breakout year. I loved the comment the announcer had today about his swing on 16 tee, how he has a smooth swing and just thumps the ball. Very true...

Agreed on JT...I'll be kinda surprised if he doesnt win it this year honestly.

As for Kokrak, just a disappointing last 4 holes but hopefully he gets out well tomorrow. He's probably going to need to shoot the same as he did today to make the cut, unless the course firms up wuickly

[Lloyd Braun]

Agreed on JT...I'll be kinda surprised if he doesnt win it this year honestly.

As for Kokrak, just a disappointing last 4 holes but hopefully he gets out well tomorrow. He's probably going to need to shoot the same as he did today to make the cut, unless the course firms up wuickly

First round at Augusta under par is a win. Errors are all mental which is expected there.

[noteggs]

Yeah. He let a couple of holes get away from him. 15 especially.

Agree. Got a bad break on 15 hitting the back side of green since course was so soft. Really stinks because he was hitting what a 6 iron (don’t know just guessing). Just over cooked it which is common for a draw.

[murray87]

In related golf news, Sandy Lyle is the man!

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/golf/news/sandy-lyle-and-his-suspenders-masters-2020/1e7dppnyxiyvf1u1r6dydflkdw

I'd wear suspenders if I could shoot a 78 anywhere!

[XU 87]

I know it's early, but is there any idea what the cut will be?

[Xville]

I know it's early, but is there any idea what the cut will be?

right now it is -1...will move 1 spot one way or the other depending on the field. Kokrak needs to shoot -1 today to feel safe. Kinda sucks he is going to not be able to finish today because the course is going to get harder every day.

[Xville]

bogey bogey start...yikes

[Xville]

and a double.....going try some reverse jinx here...kokrak you are the worst golfer on the planet.

[Xville]

kokrak seriously looks like a weekend hacker right now, just some really awful swings.

[SM#24]

And he hit good drives on 10, 11, 13. Iron play is terrible right now and chipping/putting is not saving him.

[Xville]

3 putt 18..yikes....8 holes left after a par on 1. Going to need to go -4 last 8 holes to see the 3rd round.

[bobbiemcgee]

worth another look. Amazing:

https://www.popsugar.com/fitness/jon-rahm-hole-in-one-2020-masters-practice-round-video-47961551

[bobbiemcgee]

3 putt 18..yikes....8 holes left after a par on 1. Going to need to go -4 last 8 holes to see the 3rd round.

77 cya

[xu82]

I’m enjoying the Masters without patrons. Fewer people allow you to see more of that beautiful course!

[bjf123]

At least Jason gets to play in next year’s Masters by virtue of his recent win. This year’s experience should help next year.


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[Xville]

At least Jason gets to play in next year’s Masters by virtue of his recent win. This year’s experience should help next year.


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Hope so. His iron play and short game was atrocious, and this is about as easy as augusta national is ever going to play. Maybe it was just simply nerves.

[Lloyd Braun]

Trying to catch a break at Ancer +1800 and Frittelli (S Africans at Augusta) at +3500 this morning. Need some help but I need to root for someone.

[X-man]

Hope so. His iron play and short game was atrocious, and this is about as easy as augusta national is ever going to play. Maybe it was just simply nerves.

Really, it was a short stretch of holes at the end of Thursday's round and the beginning of Friday's round that killed him. He went +2 on 15-18 on Thursday, and +4 on 10-12 (his starting holes) on Friday. So he was -2 on the remaining 29 holes....not great, but certainly respectable.

[Lamont Sanford]

Paulina Gretzky...holy hotness! Smoke show!!! Congrats DJ on that one!!!

[Masterofreality]

Paulina Gretzky...holy hotness! Smoke show!!! Congrats DJ on that one!!!

A friend of mine who is a former tour caddy, told me once that DJ and Paulina both are the most stupid people he has ever known.
He adds that Wayne Gretzky, Paulina's father, agrees. But he says their stupid makes them a perfect match. :-)

[Masterofreality]

So,

Jay Kokrak is playing this weekend at Sea Island. Tees off at 11:10 am Thursday. Probably his last tour event of the calendar year, although he might go to Naples and play at Tiburon in the QBE (formerly Shark) Shootout. That's easy money.

He'll go into the new year with over $2 million in winnings and gets to play in all the special events like the Tournament of Champions and the WGC events. Dude can make himself serious platinum coin this year. GO JAY!

[Xville]

A friend of mine who is a former tour caddy, told me once that DJ and Paulina both are the most stupid people he has ever known.
He adds that Wayne Gretzky, Paulina's father, agrees. But he says their stupid makes them a perfect match. :-)

Who cares? He gets to play a game for a living making more money than he will ever know what to do with and bang her. I wish I was that stupid.

[Lamont Sanford]

Who cares? He gets to play a game for a living making more money than he will ever know what to do with and bang her. I wish I was that stupid.

+1.

[Masterofreality]

Who cares? He gets to play a game for a living making more money than he will ever know what to do with and bang her. I wish I was that stupid.

And reportedly, for a while, do tons of coke with her too.
More impressive?

[X-man]

A friend of mine who is a former tour caddy, told me once that DJ and Paulina both are the most stupid people he has ever known.
He adds that Wayne Gretzky, Paulina's father, agrees. But he says their stupid makes them a perfect match. :-)

Kind of like the couple in "Annie Hall".

[paulxu]

Really rough start for Jason. Will be hard to make the cut.

[Masterofreality]

I've been thinking that Jay has been partying too much after his win because he missed the Masters cut, then shot +5 yesterday.

Then lo and behold, today he goes out and shoots -6 on his first 11 holes to now put himself on the cut line at -1. I'm liking his chances to play the weekend with 2 par fives left to play.

[X-man]

I've been thinking that Jay has been partying too much after his win because he missed the Masters cut, then shot +5 yesterday.

Then lo and behold, today he goes out and shoots -6 on his first 11 holes to now put himself on the cut line at -1. I'm liking his chances to play the weekend with 2 par fives left to play.
Unfortunately, he dropped a stroke and with a cut line at -2, he needs to go 2-under on his last 4 holes.

[Xville]

-1 with 1 to go...needs a birdie or a lot of help.

[X-man]

-1 with 1 to go...needs a birdie or a lot of help.

Bogeyed 18. Back to the drawing board.

[Masterofreality]

I've been thinking that Jay has been partying too much after his win because he missed the Masters cut, then shot +5 yesterday.

Then lo and behold, today he goes out and shoots -6 on his first 11 holes to now put himself on the cut line at -1. I'm liking his chances to play the weekend with 2 par fives left to play.

Two bogeys on the backside knocked him out. Welp. Have fun at the Shark Shootout & Happy Holidays!

[Lloyd Braun]

Two bogeys on the backside knocked him out. Welp. Have fun at the Shark Shootout & Happy Holidays!

Is he playing in this?

Edit sidenote: I played that course last year and it was underwhelming. I’m not a great golfer (10 hcp) and I thought it was pretty easy for what we paid. Couldn’t believe they held an event there

[Xville]

Played there too...it is unnecessarily expensive

[Lloyd Braun]

Played there too...it is unnecessarily expensive

I thought it was about to get even more expensive when I hit a house and cracked the patio door on a par 3. It wasn’t even that bad of a shot, just happened to hit the cart path and ricochet into the glass door. The owner came out and started yelling at me which I never understood since she lived 75 feet from the green I couldn’t be the first person to hit her house. I jokingly told her if her house wasn’t here I wouldn’t have to take a penalty stroke, which she didn’t find funny. Thankfully the repair cost was taken care of by the Ritz which was nice of them but I have no desire to play it again.

[Masterofreality]

Yeah, I've played Tiburon too.

It's really just set up as an exhibition course, which is basically what the Shootout is. A team event not like the usual single guy stroke play event.
Not PGA Tour quality, but fine for the Shootout show.

[American X]

Paulina Gretzky...holy hotness! Smoke show!!! Congrats DJ on that one!!!

You're Welcome (https://www.outkick.com/paulina-gretzky-finishes-off-birthday-weekend-in-metal-dress/)

[chico]

Kokrak doing well out in Maui.

https://www.pgatour.com/competition/2021/sentry-tournament-of-champions/leaderboard.html

[Xville]

Shot a 30 on the front...what not a 29? He sucks

[Lloyd Braun]

Kokrak with a near Ace... just lipped out.

[Lloyd Braun]

Kokrak with a 62 (-8) today tied for first. If you missed his near ace, here (https://www.pgatour.com/video/2021/01/14/jason-kokrak-nearly-aces-no--17-in-round-1-at-sony-open.html) is the highlight.

[paulxu]

Thanks Lloyd!

[murray87]

Go Jason!! With the hoops being cancelled, all of Xavier nation is focused on your efforts! And what was that club on the near ace? Probably an 8 iron from 186?

[paulxu]

So-so tourney for Jason. 2 good rounds, 2 not so good.

[Xville]

Dunno why he struggled so much on two of the days. It’s a resort course that for these guys is extremely easy. I know today the wind was up a bit but even still.

[murray87]

And the two rounds where he struggled were a 71 and a 72. How crazy is that??

[paulxu]

Winner averaged -5 for four rounds. Everybody but one was under par for the tourney.

But...playing in Hawaii...NICE!

[murray87]

Jason teeing it up this week at Torrey Pines. 1:30 on the North course starting tomorrow. Anyone here played that one?

[Lloyd Braun]

I played Torrey Pines at a bachelor party 10 years ago. I remember the front 9 but the back is a blur, then “took a nap” on the beach below the course. I vowed to get back to the west coast and play there again, make the trip to Pebble/Spyglass etc. but have yet to do that.

[xudash]

Jason teeing it up this week at Torrey Pines. 1:30 on the North course starting tomorrow. Anyone here played that one?

Yes. Back in the 80's. Played both courses, actually. La Jolla is a beautiful part of this planet.