2020-2021 pga tour thread

[GoMuskies]

One of you reverse jinx guys get busy. He's gonna need a lot of help today.

Why bother? He's finished.

[XUOWNSUC]

Jason sucks. He'll never win a major let alone 5 of them.

[GoMuskies]

Why bother? He's finished.

Now for real.

[joe titan]

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1934060693411042&set=pcb.614223979554450

Pro-am day @ Detroit GC.

[X-man]

A second 3-under round today in Detroit makes JK tied 10th currently at 6-under. He may slip some as more players get out on the course today, ut he's playing well and should earn some serious jack and FedEx points this weekend.

[X-man]

A nice 5-under round moves Jay to 11-under. Very solid bogey free round. He's now tied 5, 2 our t of second and 4 out of the lead.

[94GRAD]

A nice 5-under round moves Jay to 11-under. Very solid bogey free round. He's now tied 5, 2 our t of second and 4 out of the lead.

He's turrible, there's no way he can play well enough to finish at least T3!

[xu82]

He's turrible, there's no way he can play well enough to finish at least T3!

He’ll probably break new ground in golf and miss the cut on a Saturday….

[xu82]

Tied for 7th three strokes back going into Sunday. There are 14 guys within 4 strokes, so it could be an interesting day of golf.

[bobbiemcgee]

WOW. 5 straight birdies after a bogey.

[paulxu]

He's still bad. (didn't want you to reverse the reverse jinx)

[xudash]

Made some good money today.

[xu82]

Made some good money today.

You don’t have to win a ton of tournaments to make a ton of money. Be in the hunt on a regular basis and you will do VERY WELL for yourself!

[xudash]

You don’t have to win a ton of tournaments to make a ton of money. Be in the hunt on a regular basis and you will do VERY WELL for yourself!

Exactly. That probably leaves some of the older players shaking their heads.

[bobbiemcgee]

That last bogey cost him about 45k.

[Masterofreality]

Dana’s awfully quiet tonight. BJ must be on the golf course!

[Smails]

You don’t have to win a ton of tournaments to make a ton of money. Be in the hunt on a regular basis and you will do VERY WELL for yourself!

See Kuchar, Matt. 9 wins in 21 years on tour and has made 53 million dollars.. That's a helluva life

[xu82]

See Kuchar, Matt. 9 wins in 21 years on tour and has made 53 million dollars.. That's a helluva life

PLUS endorsement money! One estimate I found for Kutcher said that’s another $5 Mil per year. I could get by on that!


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[X-man]

See Kuchar, Matt. 9 wins in 21 years on tour and has made 53 million dollars.. That's a helluva life

Jay's in his 9th year on the tour and has just south of $18M in earnings, plus endorsements. Not to shabby for a guy who didn't win on the tour until this season, when he's won twice.

[bjf123]

Jay's in his 9th year on the tour and has just south of $18M in earnings, plus endorsements. Not to shabby for a guy who didn't win on the tour until this season, when he's won twice.

I wonder what it costs him each year for travel, lodging, meals, etc. That’s got to be a lot of jack.


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[xudash]

I wonder what it costs him each year for travel, lodging, meals, etc. That’s got to be a lot of jack.


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Just some rough, silly numbers: assume he plays 30 events per year. Assume 6 days per event: 4 in competition and 2 for practice. Now assume for giggles that he goes all full Ritz-Carlton mode for each of those nights ($400/night), even though he probably has some deals worked out along the way over the course of the year with other arrangements. Lodging, using those assumptions, comes in at $72k per year.

Assuming he's always buying his food, which probably isn't realistic, and assuming he's not in full Xavier mode when it comes to alcohol while on tour duty, the food bill might be half that figure, which, frankly, is a lot of food on average -- not steakhouses every night, but not fast food all the time, either.

Travel? Who knows. Does he share NetJets with others? Does he have a nice $3mm motorhome he tools around in? Does he simply do commercial first class for the Hawaii and west coast stuff and the Florida swing?

I believe it is safe to say that, even after compensating his caddy handsomely, he is banking a lot of his income, after getting eaten alive by taxes.

[MADXSTER]

Pretty much all of that would be a tax write off - correct

[xu82]

I wonder what it costs him each year for travel, lodging, meals, etc. That’s got to be a lot of jack.


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NO DOUBT! Hopefully as he gets more entrenched as “a name” in golf and with a couple wins the endorsement money grows enough to make that burden sting a lot less!

[xudash]

Pretty much all of that would be a tax write off - correct

Yes. His operating expenses as a golf pro.

[SM#24]

Set your alarms for 3am Thursday; Jason tees off at 3:04 with Koepka and Garrick Higgo.

[profson]

Just some rough, silly numbers: assume he plays 30 events per year. Assume 6 days per event: 4 in competition and 2 for practice. Now assume for giggles that he goes all full Ritz-Carlton mode for each of those nights ($400/night), even though he probably has some deals worked out along the way over the course of the year with other arrangements. Lodging, using those assumptions, comes in at $72k per year.

Assuming he's always buying his food, which probably isn't realistic, and assuming he's not in full Xavier mode when it comes to alcohol while on tour duty, the food bill might be half that figure, which, frankly, is a lot of food on average -- not steakhouses every night, but not fast food all the time, either.

Travel? Who knows. Does he share NetJets with others? Does he have a nice $3mm motorhome he tools around in? Does he simply do commercial first class for the Hawaii and west coast stuff and the Florida swing?

I believe it is safe to say that, even after compensating his caddy handsomely, he is banking a lot of his income, after getting eaten alive by taxes.

You forgot agent/manager, coach(es), sports psychologist (?), physio, etc.

[xudash]

You forgot agent/manager, coach(es), sports psychologist (?), physio, etc.

Good point. Thanks.

[Lloyd Braun]

Kokrak with an even par 70 this morning.

I am rooting for him, Hovland (+3300), Spieth top ten (+190), Grace top ten (+550), Cink (+13000), and Hoffman top ten (+900).

Like Rory this week too a lot so I’m sure he’ll miss cut.

[murray87]

Would it kill the Golf Channel to show one of his shots occasionally?

[Xville]

Would it kill the Golf Channel to show one of his shots occasionally?

They showed a few early in the round and when he was -1, but then there was nothing once he went to E. I love Kokrak because of where he went to school, but if we are being honest, he doesn’t move the needle for anyone outside of Xavier fans.

[Lloyd Braun]

I thought a South African would do well and I went with Grace… he is currently 12th of 12 South Africans. I quit…

[paulxu]

Jason will have to put up a number today to get in the $.

[Xville]

Back to back 70s and he plays the weekend. Maybe he can put up a number in the morning and guys come back. Seems like a really tame golf course right now due to the weather and softness of the fairways/greens

[Masterofreality]

Made the weekend and makes money.
Pressure’s off.
Nothing worse than going overseas and playing only 2 rounds.

[Lloyd Braun]

Kokrak shot a bogey-free 66 today and moved into top 20 for now. What a round!

[Xville]

Great round today….guessing he will finish around 30ish maybe? Made some money today for sure with pressure being off as MOR said. Hopefully he can have a similar round with the lights a bit more on tomorrow.

[Lloyd Braun]

I am having a tough time finding 10 guys underneath him that are going to move up. As the course plays a bit tougher in the afternoon you’d have to think a couple ahead of him with drop a few strokes too. Should be in a good position to make some money tomorrow. Too bad he sucks

[Xville]

I am having a tough time finding 10 guys underneath him that are going to move up. As the course plays a bit tougher in the afternoon you’d have to think a couple ahead of him with drop a few strokes too. Should be in a good position to make some money tomorrow. Too bad he sucks

True…it certainly could play tougher this afternoon and he could end up right where he is right now. It’d be great if that happens, he’d probably get some early coverage tomorrow if so

[paulxu]

Only one guy with a better round than Jason so far today. Nice job!

[Lloyd Braun]

Lots of lower scores so far today. -15 wins it?

I think Jay will need around a 68 to stay in top 20…

[Lloyd Braun]

Couple late bogies cost him some cash but still a nice top 30 to keep him in good standing in FedEx points.

[noteggs]

Lots of lower scores so far today. -15 wins it?

I think Jay will need around a 68 to stay in top 20…

I would say that would be the correct score to win. Hopefully you had a chance to bet on that!

[Lloyd Braun]

I would say that would be the correct score to win. Hopefully you had a chance to bet on that!

Haha I actually looked for it after I made that post but couldn’t find it. Doubt the odds would have been that great anyways…

[Masterofreality]

Jay made $80,000 this weekend.
Nice vacation trip

[Lloyd Braun]

Which is more difficult to win?

1) Powerball/Mega Millions
2) Masters Ticket Lottery

[Xville]

Which is more difficult to win?

1) Powerball/Mega Millions
2) Masters Ticket Lottery

ugh don't remind me...got my annual rejection letter yesterday. Twenty straight years and counting.

[xuwillie]

I’m at 15 years. They probably pick 10 out of 1 million entries

[Lloyd Braun]

Kokrak was 44-1 odds this week to win. He played decent today -3 in spite of a double on the 7th. This course sets up ok for him really as long as his short game is decent. Greens are smallish.

[bobbiemcgee]

t 21 -5

[GoMuskies]

Andy Pope is 102nd on the Korn Ferry points list, but he's in pretty decent shape this week T30th after 6 holes in round 3. Would be great to see him get more traction on this tour and maybe sneak into the PGA Tour someday. He's been grinding forever.

[noteggs]

JK playing with Lefty today. If Phil has a good round, maybe we’ll see a few shots from Jason. However, Jason hit sand to sand on his first two shots.

[bobbiemcgee]

Rallies back with an eagle: t17 -7

https://www.pgatour.com/roundrecap/2021/world-golf-championships-fedex-st--jude-invitational/round-3/jason-kokrak.html

[Lloyd Braun]

This week should be interesting for Kokrak, he typically does well in this tournament. BOL Jay

[Xville]

12th in the fedex cup standings and 24 in the world golf rankings. Just incredible. A couple of good weeks next week and the following and he could have a real legitimate shot at the tour championship

[Xville]

Yikes may have jinxed him…+2 thru 10

[joe titan]

Not sure why he teed it up this week w/playoffs in the offing as Jay does not go for extended playing schedule. Might be blessing in disguise to MC.

[paulxu]

Jason #12 on the FedEx list with earnings of almost $5 mil this year. Great year.

Hope he shows well in the playoffs.

[Xville]

I wonder if he plays well, if he could get selected for the Ryder cup? He is 15 in the standings currently. I don’t know why they would because he sucks, but still.

[Masterofreality]

Holy Roller Coaster!!
JK only had one par on the front nine today but 4 birdies and 4 bogeys for even par.
Then he drops his tee shot on 10 in the water.
#ConsistencyNOW!!

[Masterofreality]

Holy Roller Coaster!!
JK only had one par on the front nine today but 4 birdies and 4 bogeys for even par.
Then he drops his tee shot on 10 in the water.
#ConsistencyNOW!!

Update, Jay. 6 birdies 5 bogeys 2 pars. 13 holes. Wow! (-1)

[Lloyd Braun]

Update, Jay. 6 birdies 5 bogeys 2 pars. 13 holes. Wow! (-1)

Colorful scorecard indeed… hopefully he can finish out in the red.

[SM#24]

Finished -1 (7 birdies, 6 bogeys)

[Lloyd Braun]

Finished -1 (7 birdies, 6 bogeys)

Nice birdie on his 17th (8th) hole… just putting up solid rounds is a great thing for the next few weeks.

[Masterofreality]

Nice birdie on his 17th (8th) hole… just putting up solid rounds is a great thing for the next few weeks.

That is one crazy round of golf! Tied 31 right now.
Just make the weekend then GOOOO!!

[SM#24]

DeChambeau out crazy'd him. Shot E in round 1 with 2 pars (9 birdies, 5 bogeys, 2 doubles).

[paulxu]

-1 through 4. Will need a good round.

[paulxu]

I jinxed him. Now 3 holes left to find 2 birdies to make the cut. Ugh.

[Masterofreality]

Terrible back nine with consecutive Double Bogeys on 10 & 11.
Missed the cut by 1

[GoMuskies]

Not a good round for Jason.

And I posted that BEFORE he three putted from 21 feet for bogey on the 16th. Ouch.

[Lloyd Braun]

Live FedEx projection is 23rd. Which is not ideal but I think is still pretty safe to advance to East Lake. He has definitely not been in top form as of late…

[Xville]

Not a great time to be out of form, but good news is that outside of these past few weeks, he has had a great year.

[Lloyd Braun]

Not a great time to be out of form, but good news is that outside of these past few weeks, he has had a great year.

Agreed esp because he sucks

[Xville]

Would have been really cool to see him on the Ryder cup…a few good weeks and he probably sneaks into the top 12 and maybe gets picked

[GoMuskies]

Pretty good start to the day. 2 under through 6 holes. His only bogey came on a par 3 where he hit his tee shot to within 12 feet, so that's strange.

[GoMuskies]

4 under 68. Nothing fantastic, but enough to move up a bit on the leaderboard. He could use another one of those this weekend to try and get back towards the top 15 heading to next weekend's championship (and not having to start too many strokes behind). Also, he's going to beat that bastard Harris English today to get me a nice +120 winner!

[Xville]

Hell of a day for him today -7 thru 17. Any idea what his projection is right now?

[X-man]

Hell of a day for him today -7 thru 17. Any idea what his projection is right now?

16. Needs to move up another spot or two.

[GoMuskies]

It's unfortunate that Jason can't go back and re-play that first round.

[Lloyd Braun]

Hell of a day for him today -7 thru 17. Any idea what his projection is right now?

Top 15 would be another stroke.

https://www.pgatour.com/fedexcup/projected-standings.html

[GoMuskies]

Looks more like 18th. Almost impossible to win from that far back, but it's pretty cool that he's so comfortably in the finals.

[Lloyd Braun]

Helluva putt Patrick!!!

[Lloyd Braun]

This is bananas

[Masterofreality]

Jay Kokrak won himself $152,000 today to give him $5,104,000 for the year.
Tour Championship next up!

[Lloyd Braun]

Jay Kokrak won himself $152,000 today to give him $5,104,000 for the year.
Tour Championship next up!

Is that good?

[Xville]

Finally! Boom! Netted about 380…thank you cantlay

[Lloyd Braun]

Finally! Boom! Netted about 380…thank you cantlay

Nice job and thanks for the tip… netted 180 and I think my $20 hedge on Bryson after he hit it in the water was the difference maker for Cantlay.

[paulxu]

That was some finish to the tournament. Great golf.

[xu82]

Is that good?

It is approximately $5,104,000 more than I’ve made this year. So….it’s not too shabby.

[Xville]

Nice job and thanks for the tip… netted 180 and I think my $20 hedge on Bryson after he hit it in the water was the difference maker for Cantlay.

Ha you too! Thanks for the hedge bet :)

[X-man]

Is that good?

As they stated yesterday, he's guaranteed at least $400K by playing in Atlanta. That's what the last place golfer makes.

[Lloyd Braun]

As they stated yesterday, he's guaranteed at least $400K by playing in Atlanta. That's what the last place golfer makes.

Plus further exemptions into pretty much every major and WGC events, along with better tee times. Sometimes the world golf ranking takes care of that (and prior wins) but this assures it. What a year by Jay… pretty certain we reverse jinxed him into at least a million.

[joe titan]

Let's not lose sight of longshot possible Ryder Cup position. He did shoot lowest for weekend at Caves Valley (-13) and has played well enough in WGC, majors, etc in addition to 2 wins. There is a chance.

[Lloyd Braun]

Let's not lose sight of longshot possible Ryder Cup position. He did shoot lowest for weekend at Caves Valley (-13) and has played well enough in WGC, majors, etc in addition to 2 wins. There is a chance.

I think he needs a top 10 finish to sniff a chance. I think if we are looking at captains picks today we would see Finau, Xander, Spieth, English, Berger, Simpson. I think the first 4 are locks, leaving 2 spots for: Berger, Simpson, Scheffler, Reed, Kokrak, Na, Burns, Horschel, Kisner.

That’s a rough road. But yes, there’s a chance!

[chico]

The PGA has banned spectators from saying the word "Brooksie."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/golf/2021/08/31/brooksie-banned-pga-tour-eject-fans-taunt-bryson-dechambeau/

[Xville]

The PGA has banned spectators from saying the word "Brooksie."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/golf/2021/08/31/brooksie-banned-pga-tour-eject-fans-taunt-bryson-dechambeau/

A little ridiculous it has come to this, but if something didn’t happen soon, there might be a malace at the palace situation on the golf course at some point. I don’t like Bryson and quite frankly there are a few players on the tour that are generally unlikeable. However, I’m not going to go be an ass to them if I’m at a tournament and not sure why others feel the need to do so.

[94GRAD]

I think he needs a top 10 finish to sniff a chance. I think if we are looking at captains picks today we would see Finau, Xander, Spieth, English, Berger, Simpson. I think the first 4 are locks, leaving 2 spots for: Berger, Simpson, Scheffler, Reed, Kokrak, Na, Burns, Horschel, Kisner.

That’s a rough road. But yes, there’s a chance!

Being one of the longest hitters, and #2 in putting stats this season should put him on the squad if you're asking me.

[Lloyd Braun]

Being one of the longest hitters, and #2 in putting stats this season should put him on the squad if you're asking me.

Don’t disagree and perhaps your opinion matters more than mine but I have no pull with Steve Stricker! Maybe JP can help…

[Xville]

Even though he doesn’t deserve it, I wouldn’t be surprised if Phil was a pick.

[noteggs]

Even though he doesn’t deserve it, I wouldn’t be surprised if Phil was a pick.

One of my favorite golfers over the years and great to see him win a major this year. But please no!

[Xville]

One of my favorite golfers over the years and great to see him win a major this year. But please no!

Agree completely

[Lloyd Braun]

I think Webb Simpson would be this years “veteran presence” per se.

[paulxu]

Let's go Jason!

[GoMuskies]

The PGA's website shows Jason hitting a 57 foot putt to save par at 17. That's impressive.

[noteggs]

Well that means he drained two putts over 50 feet. Here’s a look at a birdie on number 1. Saw numerous people from 10-15 feet from same line that didn’t play enough break.

https://www.pgatour.com/video/2021/09/02/jason-kokrak-sinks-a-54-foot-birdie-on-no--1-in-round-1-at-tour-.html

[paulxu]

Got to birdie the par 5's.

[GoMuskies]

68 ain't bad. Jason's clearly not winning this weekend, but a top 10 is a very real possibility, and a top 5 isn't out of the question.

[bobbiemcgee]

T11 - lousy 705k

[Masterofreality]

Final Official Money for Jay: $5,863,000. Fed Ex Cup 18.
World Golf Ranking 26. 2 wins on the season. 2 years of exemptions.
What a year. Dude can pick and choose whenever and wherever he wants to play.
Awesome.

Hopefully a Ryder Cup pick.

[Xville]

Ryder cup picks are going to be interesting. I think Xander, finau and speith are givens, but the last three are pretty wide open to me.

[Lloyd Braun]

I would be pretty surprised if Harris English is not picked. Not exactly a big name but he has been rock solid all year and I would probably consider him a lock. Berger finished well this week and has more Ryder Cup points, I have heard he is a lock. If that’s the case there’s one spot for:

Kokrak, Na, Simpson, Reed (vomit), Scheffler, Burns, Kisner.

One thing to watch is the injury to Koepka if serious could open another spot.

[Xville]

True, I think Harris is a lock, and honestly I forgot about him. The remaining pick is going to be an interesting one...the rest of the guys have "faults" that could keep them off the team. Na and Kisner are short, Reed is a pain in the ass on a team that already has plenty of them, Webb has a very average Ryder Cup record, Scheffler Burns and Kokrak are all garbage (by tour standards) around the green which is a big piece when you need someone that can scramble for pars when things aren't going 100.

My guess reading the tea leaves is that it will be Simpson or Scheffler.

[Masterofreality]

Scheffler Burns and Kokrak are all garbage (by tour standards) around the green which is a big piece when you need someone that can scramble for pars when things aren't going 100.

Uh, Jason Kokrak was #6 in Shots Gained Putting through the entire 2020-2021 season on the PGA Tour. That is assuredly not garbage and WAY above the other two dudes.
Do some research before you start throwing crap out there.

[Xville]

Uh, Jason Kokrak was #6 in Shots Gained Putting through the entire 2020-2021 season on the PGA Tour. That is assuredly not garbage and WAY above the other two dudes.
Do some research before you start throwing crap out there.

I did research…you chose to jump on me because you didn’t read clearly. I said around the greens, not on the greens. He is 174th sg around the greens.

Not going to hit every green in regulation and you have to be able to scramble. That’s not a strength of Jason’s.

[X-man]

I did research…you chose to jump on me because you didn’t read clearly. I said around the greens, not on the greens. He is 174th sg around the greens.

Not going to hit every green in regulation and you have to be able to scramble. That’s not a strength of Jason’s.

I agree with you on Jay's scrambling limitations. He made incredible strides this season with the putter, something which many of expected would make him into a formidable presence on the tour. Now if he can make similar strides with his scrambling, the sky's the limit for this guy.

[noteggs]

I did research…you chose to jump on me because you didn’t read clearly. I said around the greens, not on the greens. He is 174th sg around the greens.

Not going to hit every green in regulation and you have to be able to scramble. That’s not a strength of Jason’s.

Agree. Followed Jason’s play on PGA app this year. Seemed like he had trouble getting up and down from the green side bunkers. After looking it up and to your point, he was poorly ranked at 167 (131 last year) with a 46.67% sand save. Agree with X-man, if he cleans this up in the off season, look out.

[bigdiggins]

Ryder cup picks are going to be interesting. I think Xander, finau and speith are givens, but the last three are pretty wide open to me.

Tony Finau, Where he be now?

[Masterofreality]

I did research…you chose to jump on me because you didn’t read clearly. I said around the greens, not on the greens. He is 174th sg around the greens.

Not going to hit every green in regulation and you have to be able to scramble. That’s not a strength of Jason’s.

Then why didn’t you specify “up and down”? “Around the green” in golf includes on the green.
You’re points are worthless when the guy was 18th in Fed Ex Cup standings and 26th in the world rankings. Oh and he won almost $6 million in official money.
The dude didn’t have to worry about “scrambling” much.
You need to worry about the guy who is 125th when you worry about “chipping”. Totally irrelevant criticsm

[Xville]

Then why didn’t you specify “up and down”? “Around the green” in golf includes on the green.
You’re points are worthless when the guy was 18th in Fed Ex Cup standings and 26th in the world rankings. Oh and he won almost $6 million in official money.
The dude didn’t have to worry about “scrambling” much.
You need to worry about the guy who is 125th when you worry about “chipping”. Totally irrelevant criticsm

You are so far off. Just admit you were wrong and we can be done with it. Around the green means around the green, hence the actual statistic (sg around the green.) It does not mean on the green which is a different statistic.

It’s relevant because I was speaking to the captain’s picks for the ryder cup and who stricker has left to pick from as the 12th guy. Or, was that point completely lost on you since gawd forbid I make a criticism of a guy’s game who went to Xavier? Get a grip.

I’m a Kokrak fan by the way…I follow golf every week and mention him about every week on here.

[Final4]

Then why didn’t you specify “up and down”? “Around the green” in golf includes on the green.
You’re points are worthless when the guy was 18th in Fed Ex Cup standings and 26th in the world rankings. Oh and he won almost $6 million in official money.
The dude didn’t have to worry about “scrambling” much.
You need to worry about the guy who is 125th when you worry about “chipping”. Totally irrelevant criticsm

Just stop. You misread what he wrote and now you’re backpedaling and making it worse. He didn’t say “up and down” because specifically that’s not the metric. The metric is “around the green”.

[Lloyd Braun]

You are so far off. Just admit you were wrong and we can be done with it. Around the green means around the green, hence the actual statistic (sg around the green.) It does not mean on the green which is a different statistic.

It’s relevant because I was speaking to the captain’s picks for the ryder cup and who stricker has left to pick from as the 12th guy. Or, was that point completely lost on you since gawd forbid I make a criticism of a guy’s game who went to Xavier? Get a grip.

I’m a Kokrak fan by the way…I follow golf every week and mention him about every week on here.

There are countless of posts in this thread that state otherwise and that you think he sucks. Which he does.

[GoMuskies]

There are countless of posts in this thread that state otherwise and that you think he sucks. Which he does.

Kokrak is definitely awful. If he was on the Ryder Cup team, the Americans would probably lose 28-0.

[Xville]

There are countless of posts in this thread that state otherwise and that you think he sucks. Which he does.

Dang..you're right! No way Stricker is going to pick the guy, he's terrible...couldn't even win a club championship at the local muni.

[X-man]

Just stop. You misread what he wrote and now you’re backpedaling and making it worse. He didn’t say “up and down” because specifically that’s not the metric. The metric is “around the green”.

MOR is incapable of ever admitting he made a mistake. Sad, really.

[Xville]

Scheffler it is. Glad to see some new blood on the team with him, Xander, English, Morikawa and Berger. Was getting tired of the Phil show and glad to see Reed not on the team as there is enough "personality" already.

[X-man]

Scheffler it is. Glad to see some new blood on the team with him, English, Morikawa and Berger. Was getting tired of the Phil show and glad to see Reed not on the team as there is enough "personality" already.

I would have liked to see Reed, even though I don't like the guy and think he cheats on occasion. The reason is how good he was last time, and how he shushed the crowd in Paris (?).

[Masterofreality]

You are so far off. Just admit you were wrong and we can be done with it. Around the green means around the green, hence the actual statistic (sg around the green.) It does not mean on the green which is a different statistic.

It’s relevant because I was speaking to the captain’s picks for the ryder cup and who stricker has left to pick from as the 12th guy. Or, was that point completely lost on you since gawd forbid I make a criticism of a guy’s game who went to Xavier? Get a grip.

I’m a Kokrak fan by the way…I follow golf every week and mention him about every week on here.

See, after you chip “around the green” you still have to putt “on the green” to finish the stat so your garbage here is misleading and irrelevant. It’s a package deal.
You take the L.
I’ll take Kokraks World rankings and $6 mil in winnings this year.

[Masterofreality]

MOR is incapable of ever admitting he made a mistake. Sad, really.

I haven’t. And I’m a happy guy.
Sorry you are sad

[paulxu]

Strokes Gained: Around-the-Green
Strokes gained: around-the-green measures player performance on any shot within 30 yards of the edge of the green. This statistic does not include any shots taken on the putting green.

https://www.pgatour.com/news/2016/05/31/strokes-gained-defined.html

[Xville]

See, after you chip “around the green” you still have to putt “on the green” to finish the stat so your garbage here is misleading and irrelevant. It’s a package deal.
You take the L.
I’ll take Kokraks World rankings and $6 mil in winnings this year.

Why can’t you just admit you were wrong and move on? Do you have that much of a complex, and enjoy looking like an ass? The stat is not a package deal, the stat around the green is what it says it is, and he is poor at it by tour standards and this was discussed around the context of who stricker had to choose from for the Ryder cup. This had nothing to do with how much money he has made or his overall golf ranking.

Doubling down on your arrogance and ignorance.

[Final4]

And he scolded Ville for not doing research before he posted………he doesn’t have a clue what’s he talking about. I don’t think he’s aware that “strokes gained” are PGA metrics.

[X-man]

I haven’t. And I’m a happy guy.
Sorry you are sad

I rest my case.

[murray87]

The interesting caveat in all of this is Brooks Koepka's health. It's a bit up in the air after he had to withdraw from the Tour Championship after hitting a tree root and injuring his wrist on Sunday afternoon. If he requires a replacement, Stricker could go with Reed or Webb Simpson, who finished 13th in the Ryder Cup standings and would be a tremendous addition to the U.S. team room.

(pasted from a CBSsports story on the team)

[Lloyd Braun]

The interesting caveat in all of this is Brooks Koepka's health. It's a bit up in the air after he had to withdraw from the Tour Championship after hitting a tree root and injuring his wrist on Sunday afternoon. If he requires a replacement, Stricker could go with Reed or Webb Simpson, who finished 13th in the Ryder Cup standings and would be a tremendous addition to the U.S. team room.

(pasted from a CBSsports story on the team)

You saw it here first 2 days ago on this thread. We are the source for many breaking news issues from covid treatments to Ryder Cup spots to the hiring/firing of coaches.