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Muskie
03-24-2020, 01:54 PM
Vote now (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?34239-TBP-The-Best-Player-to-Wear-3) and discuss here:

There's something for everyone including community favorites and great players.

D-West & PO-Z
03-24-2020, 02:40 PM
Cage should win this one easily.

Granted it seems like there are maybe some old timers on there I dont know.

Masterofreality
03-24-2020, 04:24 PM
C'mon People.

No one remembers Kevin Frey???
Granted, Justin had 1182 points to Kevin's 1102. But Kevin had 710 rebounds to Justin's 641, played one less career game and had a higher career free throw percentage. He also was the poster boy for the 1999 upset over #1 Clifton Community College. He also was a trash talking JP Macura when JP was just an infant. He got in people's heads- deep. Anybody remember Kevin getting into Simon Ogunlesi's kitchen that made OTHUGlesi elbow and bloody Kevin's head? Dude was an Agent Provacatuer!
I voted Kevin Frey, with zero against Justin Cage. People just don't remember what a cog in the wheel Kevin was.

Lloyd Braun
03-24-2020, 04:31 PM
I love KFrey and was reallllly close to voting for him. He was so good and very underrated. I felt that Cage was a better defender and could defend all 5 positions in a pinch. Cage also secured a huge rebound in the victory over #1 OSU right before he was intentionally fouled by Oden. At least that’s how I remember it... it was St Paddy’s day and I was not sober.

Muskie
03-25-2020, 09:24 AM
Surprised this is such a runaway for Justin Cage (who is my all time favorite X player). I figured Frey would get some votes, maybe Kelsey from a few of you, and I thought there might be at least a few who were willing to say it's Q.

IM4X
03-25-2020, 07:22 PM
C'mon People.

No one remembers Kevin Frey???
Granted, Justin had 1182 points to Kevin's 1102. But Kevin had 710 rebounds to Justin's 641, played one less career game and had a higher career free throw percentage. He also was the poster boy for the 1999 upset over #1 Clifton Community College. He also was a trash talking JP Macura when JP was just an infant. He got in people's heads- deep. Anybody remember Kevin getting into Simon Ogunlesi's kitchen that made OTHUGlesi elbow and bloody Kevin's head? Dude was an Agent Provacatuer!
I voted Kevin Frey, with zero against Justin Cage. People just don't remember what a cog in the wheel Kevin was.


Frey was a good one indeed. I remember all those things about him. Loved the kid and the energy he brought. It was a close call for me, as it seems to have been with so many others. The thing is that Cage was pretty special too. All things considered, I thought he edges out Kevin by just a little.

Kind of strange that Cage’s number came up at the same time as the story about the battle he and his family are going though with the coronavirus. So sad. I hope they are all doing better.

UCGRAD4X
03-25-2020, 09:30 PM
I loved Frey as well. He had fire and spark and that exclamation point and subsequent enthusiasm against Cincinnati's also-rans was an seminal and unforgettable moment.

I think Cage was an overall more significant contributor and was a body slam felony from bettering Odom and Ohio State on the way to the final four.

Backyard Champ
03-25-2020, 10:26 PM
Unpopular opinion around here but... I do believe after his first two years, Q was on the path to being best ever to wear #3. Would have loved to see how he would have done If we had the players around him that suited his style.

Lloyd Braun
03-25-2020, 11:12 PM
Unpopular opinion around here but... I do believe after his first two years, Q was on the path to being best ever to wear #3. Would have loved to see how he would have done If we had the players around him that suited his style.

After 2 years it’s likely Q had the best stats and seemingly highest ceiling. Unfortunately he peaked in year 2. I haven’t looked at all stats recently but one that really jumps out at me every time I try to figure out what happened to Q is his FT%. If you want to figure out what happened to Q I think that’s a reasonable place to start (between the ears).

Fr: 56%
So: 79%
Jr: 66%
Sr: 61%

Granted he had an injury bug that was unfortunate, but I would he curious to know some behind the scenes details with Q.

Muskie
03-26-2020, 09:28 AM
Unpopular opinion around here but... I do believe after his first two years, Q was on the path to being best ever to wear #3. Would have loved to see how he would have done If we had the players around him that suited his style.

I think you're correct. A third great year (especially a redemptive Senior Campaign) would have made all the difference in this poll.