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nuts4xu
03-02-2020, 11:08 AM
https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/article240792431.html

Who was the snowflake proposed this idea?

SM#24
03-02-2020, 01:35 PM
I think it only affects the Beijing regional

xubrew
03-02-2020, 02:07 PM
Everything about the coronavirus is annoying me.

GoMuskies
03-02-2020, 02:54 PM
I just read a WSJ article about all the events being postponed or played in empty stadiums/arenas in Japan and Europe. Seems like an actual possibility right now (though chances still seem remote).

xcellentx
03-02-2020, 03:09 PM
I just read a WSJ article about all the events being postponed or played in empty stadiums/arenas in Japan and Europe. Seems like an actual possibility right now (though chances still seem remote).

I think it is something you have to prepare for in case there is an outbreak in a certain city, say if the Seattle cases spread to Spokane and there is a larger outbreak there. It doesn't seem at this point though that there will be a big enough issue at any of the locations for the tournament that you would have to preemptively empty any site.

Masterofreality
03-02-2020, 03:10 PM
I'm not going so far to call this a "hoax" but there sure is a lot of hyperbole being thrown around- a lot of it by the freaking news media that are hungry for some other story they can jack up to sell newspapers & get ratings. The funniest thing to me was that Bloomberg bought a 3 minute ad on 60 Minutes last night and said that "This Crisis shouldn't be Politicized"...all while he had just bought a 3 minute ad to do the very thing to make himself look "Presidential".
The facts are these: According to the WHO, as of February 26, there had been 2,918 cases of COVID- 19 outside of China with 53 in the US. This in a world with 7.7 BILLION people and a US population of 331 million. There have been 44 deaths- 2 in the US. Compare this to the flu which the CDC estimates will infect between 29,000,000 and 41,000,000 during the 2019-2020 season. Those cases will result in 16,000-41,000 deaths.
No one should be careless, and, yeah, wash your damn hands but anybody thinking that this is a pandemic is nuts. I asked my Brother In Law who is a VP for the Cleveland Clinic over the weekend if there had been a big todo over COVID with lots of meetings and precautions taken. He just laughed and said that it's a tempest in a teapot. Just take all of your usual precautions, but the economy and the world won't end.

xubrew
03-02-2020, 03:29 PM
I think it's all over.

The coronavirus can open padlocks!! It can be transmitted over cell phone networks!! Although the numbers are unconfirmed, there have been 60,000 cases, but 80,000 deaths! This is serious stuff!!!

Should you be concerned?? Probably a little bit. Should you be freaked out?? No. It's a coronavirus. Even if the world decided to do nothing (probably a bad idea, but just saying), it would almost assuredly eventually run its course and go away. There are things that have been killing us at a much higher rate for decades that never seem to alarm anyone, but whenever a new virus comes along everyone totally freaks. You probably won't get it. If you do, you'll probably get over it if you treat the symptoms. There have been and will be deaths, and that is tragic, but the chances of being killed in a car accident in the next 12 months are probably far greater than dying from covid19.

Statistically speaking (and I'm actually not trying to be facetious....well, maybe a little bit) it makes more sense to say that we need to play the games in front of empty venues to cut down on the risk of drunk driving fatalities from people getting too boozed up and then driving home than it does to say we need to play in empty arenas to prevent the spread of covid19

SM#24
03-02-2020, 03:40 PM
So, the moral of the story is if you are going to the NCAAs, do not drive there.

Masterofreality
03-02-2020, 03:41 PM
So, the moral of the story is if you are going to the NCAAs, do not drive there.

And wash your damn hands in a public restroom when you piss there.

SM#24
03-02-2020, 03:42 PM
And per Davante Adams, wash your butt.

murray87
03-02-2020, 03:49 PM
Fans of VD should definitely stay home, those nasty red sweaters are full of germs.

Masterofreality
03-02-2020, 03:53 PM
And per Davante Adams, wash your butt.

Adviseable.

murray87
03-04-2020, 01:35 PM
This seems to be a bit of an over-reaction:

https://sports.yahoo.com/chicago-states-mens-basketball-not-traveling-due-virus-062507128--ncaab.html

Muskie
03-04-2020, 05:44 PM
This seems to be a bit of an over-reaction:

https://sports.yahoo.com/chicago-states-mens-basketball-not-traveling-due-virus-062507128--ncaab.html

Washington has 10 reported deaths. I don't blame them for being cautious at this point.

GoMuskies
03-04-2020, 05:51 PM
Washington has 10 reported deaths. I don't blame them for being cautious at this point.

Cancel all games that teams bus to. There were 40,000 highway deaths last year.

X-band '01
03-04-2020, 05:54 PM
Thankfully for the Pac-12, both Washington schools will be playing on the road against the Arizona schools this weekend.

D-West & PO-Z
03-04-2020, 07:59 PM
Cancel all games that teams bus to. There were 40,000 highway deaths last year.

C'mon this is just a silly response.

smileyy
03-04-2020, 08:08 PM
Washington has 10 reported deaths. I don't blame them for being cautious at this point.

A fair number were from a nursing home; older people seem to be getting hit much harder.

That said, my guess is that the actual number of cases in the Seattle area is an order of magnitude larger than the number of actual positive test results; nobody is getting tested unless they've had severe symptoms or direct contact.

GoMuskies
03-04-2020, 08:22 PM
C'mon this is just a silly response.

Disagree. There's zero call for canceling games now. It's silliness and pretty clear it's only being done to save money for the athletic program with both the worst men's team AND women's team in Division I. Busing to a game is MUCH more dangerous than the virus right now.

D-West & PO-Z
03-04-2020, 08:28 PM
Disagree. There's zero call for canceling games now. It's silliness and pretty clear it's only being done to save money for the athletic program with both the worst men's team AND women's team in Division I. Busing to a game is MUCH more dangerous than the virus right now.

Its an apples to oranges comparison and at least as ridiculous as a team cancelling a meaningless game.

GoMuskies
03-04-2020, 08:33 PM
Its an apples to oranges comparison and at least as ridiculous as a team cancelling a meaningless game.

Disagree. It's all about student safety. Banning driving to games would be no more ridiculous than what Chicago State is doing.

D-West & PO-Z
03-04-2020, 08:45 PM
Disagree. It's all about student safety. Banning driving to games would be no more ridiculous than what Chicago State is doing.

I'm not saying what the school decided was right or not or for the actual reasons stated or not but your comment about car accidents is still silly.

Car accidents arent contagious, they arent only 4 months old, they arent increasing exponentially every day.

People assume risk when driving a car. They generally know how to avoid them or decrease their risk or potentially prevent death (wearing a seat belt) if they are ultimately in them.

GoMuskies
03-04-2020, 09:03 PM
I mean, the response is SUPPOSED to be ridiculous, because Chicago State's actions are ridiculous. The kids aren't DRIVING the bus, so they really can't act to prevent accidents. And 40,000 people per year can't manage to avoid being killed.

I might cut Chicago State some slack if they were only skipping Seattle, but they're also skipping Utah Valley. And canceling home games for their women. At the same time, their baseball team is going to Auburn and Louisville the next 7 days.

Also, the TRULY ridiculous thing here is Chicago State playing D I sports in the first place!

D-West & PO-Z
03-04-2020, 09:11 PM
Also, the TRULY ridiculous thing here is Chicago State playing D I sports in the first place!

This is a great point.

GoMuskies
03-04-2020, 09:26 PM
Now, imagine for a moment that this virus picks up steam and becomes a full-fledged pandemic in the US, and the NCAA is forced to cancel its Tournament. This being the year that Dayton is in the top 5 for the first time in most of our lifetimes. Imagine all the crazy shit Dayton fans would say for the NEXT 50 years while they wait for their next good team about how they totally would have won it all and that they really should put a banner to that effect in the Dump.

Dayton getting screwed would be the only slight silver lining in that dark, dark cloud.

paulxu
03-04-2020, 09:29 PM
Italy just cancelled all fans going to games for a month.

Muskie in dayton
03-04-2020, 09:36 PM
Washington has 10 reported deaths. I don't blame them for being cautious at this point.

The flu kills over 200 people in the US every day. This coronavirus thing is entirely overblown.

D-West & PO-Z
03-04-2020, 09:53 PM
The flu kills over 200 people in the US every day. This coronavirus thing is entirely overblown.

Bad comparison. The Flu isnt 4 months old with unknown capabilities and isnt even close to death % of confirmed cases compared to corona.

Also we know all the symptoms of flu, how to treat it, and have a vaccine for it.

Muskie in dayton
03-04-2020, 10:29 PM
Bad comparison. The Flu isnt 4 months old with unknown capabilities and isnt even close to death % of confirmed cases compared to corona.

Also we know all the symptoms of flu, how to treat it, and have a vaccine for it.

Is it?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/health/coronavirus-flu.amp.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/4667797002

D-West & PO-Z
03-04-2020, 10:39 PM
is it?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/health/coronavirus-flu.amp.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/4667797002

edit:

You're first article exactly supports what I said and the second I didnt read after seeing it was a month old.

GoMuskies
03-04-2020, 11:23 PM
UMKC is also skipping Seattle, but they're not skipping Utah Velley, and they're letting their women host Utah Valley and Seattle.

noteggs
03-04-2020, 11:32 PM
Good news, don’t have to worry about daughter going down to Florida getting drunk and going to jail during spring break. Bad news she’s flying out to Seattle for break. At first I was thinking of asking her if she still wanted to go, but just asked her to be safe (as normal) and be aware of her surroundings. Guess there’s a tad bit of snow flake in me.

Muskie in dayton
03-05-2020, 06:53 AM
edit:

You're first article exactly supports what I said and the second I didnt read after seeing it was a month old.

Huh? The first article said the death rate is exaggerated because the range of effects from the coronavirus is so broad that many people donÂ’t know they even have it. It also said the flu is more dangerous to kids and the healthy, but coronavirus is more dangerous to those with underlying respiratory or immunity deficiencies.

My take away is yes, take normal precautions (just like I do to avoid the flu), but donÂ’t freak out. And for the love of God donÂ’t play sporting events in empty venues.

Oh, and this wasnÂ’t in either article but itÂ’s NOT caused by Corona beer.

paulxu
03-05-2020, 08:56 AM
In related new, here in South Carolina, we are all one big diocese.
The Bishop has instructed all parishes to discontinue wine at communion, and hand contact during the sign of peace at mass, until the virus subsides.

And, if curious about the US response to conditions, this is from a couple of days ago:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/03/03/us-covid-19-cases-now-spreading-due-to-trumps-testing-restrictions-and-dismantling-of-pandemic-response-teams/

STL_XUfan
03-05-2020, 09:47 AM
It also doesn't help that the President was on Sean Hannity just riffing about the virus and said that people are getting the virus and not going to a doctor and continuing to go to work and are just fine. (https://twitter.com/Politidope/status/1235415582931066880?s=20 I think the caption is a little click baity as he didn't say people should go to work, just that people are doing it and are fine.)

While it is true that the vast majority that get the virus will be just fine, the problem is all of those people will inevitably spread it to people that will not be fine. That is why it is important to be able to trace the virus and quarantine it the best that we can. For example, if I were to get the virus, I am confident that as a fairly healthy mid 30's male I'll be alright, but that doesn't mean I should buck up and go to the Xavier/Butler game on Saturday and high five the 70 year olds that sit in front of me.

We need a consistent message coming from one source with knowledge of the situation that can accurately inform the public so as to prevent further spread without causing a panic. I wish that the White House was up to it, but they have yet to show the ability to be that megaphone.

xubrew
03-05-2020, 11:04 AM
You don't want people to put their health at risk. You hate it when things need to be disrupted in order to avoid health risks. But, you also hate it when things get disrupted unnecessarily. I think that's where we are with Covid-19. I oftentimes think we scare too easily over the wrong things and aren’t scared enough of things that are more dangerous. This is one of those times.

xubrew
03-05-2020, 11:16 AM
Now, imagine for a moment that this virus picks up steam and becomes a full-fledged pandemic in the US, and the NCAA is forced to cancel its Tournament. This being the year that Dayton is in the top 5 for the first time in most of our lifetimes. Imagine all the crazy shit Dayton fans would say for the NEXT 50 years while they wait for their next good team about how they totally would have won it all and that they really should put a banner to that effect in the Dump.

Dayton getting screwed would be the only slight silver lining in that dark, dark cloud.

The NCAA would lose $1.1 billion. They may not be able to continue operating. I suppose that's another potential silver lining.

xubrew
03-05-2020, 11:33 AM
And we have perhaps a third silver lining!!!

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xgq5ew/coronavirus-porn-going-viral-pornhub-xhamster?utm_content=1583334017&utm_medium=social&utm_source=VICE_facebook

GoMuskies
03-05-2020, 12:29 PM
And we have perhaps a third silver lining!!!

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xgq5ew/coronavirus-porn-going-viral-pornhub-xhamster?utm_content=1583334017&utm_medium=social&utm_source=VICE_facebook

Nice!

xubrew
03-05-2020, 02:12 PM
Things that may be more deadly than the Coronavirus but that no one freaks out about include:

Obesity
Shootings
Narcotics/Opioids
Prescription Pain Meds
Alcohol
Eating Disorders
High School Football
Choking
Vehicular Accidents
Cancer
Showers/Bath Tubs - (I'm not kidding. There's on average one a day. Well, maybe i'm kidding a little bit, but there is one a day)
Heart Attacks and Heart Disease - This is by far the biggest killer
Strokes
Diabetes
Liver Disease
Giving Birth


Should we be concerned about the Coronavirus?? Yes, to a point. But, probably no more than we should be concerned about literally dozens of other things that have been killing us at a much higher rate for decades, and will probably kill far more people than Covid19 will this year. If anything, we need to be less panicked about every new virus that comes out and worry more about things that kill us at much higher rates.

paulxu
03-05-2020, 02:31 PM
The interesting thing about all of those, it seems to me, is that they are individual activities.
Because I'm obese, I don't transmit obesity for instance.
Sure they all kill more people, but each of them can't jump to you and cause you harm.

Maybe more important is that communicable diseases transmit and cross borders.
They end up psychologically (and perhaps incorrectly) affecting lots of people.
And so now we see disruptions in supply chains, and the market in general.
You'll go drink at Dana's if there's an obese person there...but maybe not if you thought there was an infected person who could transmit to you there.
You're on an airplane with a recirculating atmosphere with a diabetic, but maybe not with an infected person.

Hopefully it will be brought under control in short order and things will return to normal. We need fans in the stands!!!

D-West & PO-Z
03-05-2020, 04:52 PM
The interesting thing about all of those, it seems to me, is that they are individual activities.
Because I'm obese, I don't transmit obesity for instance.
Sure they all kill more people, but each of them can't jump to you and cause you harm.

Maybe more important is that communicable diseases transmit and cross borders.
They end up psychologically (and perhaps incorrectly) affecting lots of people.
And so now we see disruptions in supply chains, and the market in general.
You'll go drink at Dana's if there's an obese person there...but maybe not if you thought there was an infected person who could transmit to you there.
You're on an airplane with a recirculating atmosphere with a diabetic, but maybe not with an infected person.

Hopefully it will be brought under control in short order and things will return to normal. We need fans in the stands!!!

Stop being so rational and reasonable Paul!

(Not to mention pretty much everything brew listed we do as a community care about and have doctors, facilities, treatments, counselors for. Maybe not showers/bathtubs though!)

noteggs
03-05-2020, 05:19 PM
It also doesn't help that the President was on Sean Hannity just riffing about the virus and said that people are getting the virus and not going to a doctor and continuing to go to work and are just fine. (https://twitter.com/Politidope/status/1235415582931066880?s=20 I think the caption is a little click baity as he didn't say people should go to work, just that people are doing it and are fine.)

We need a consistent message coming from one source with knowledge of the situation that can accurately inform the public so as to prevent further spread without causing a panic. I wish that the White House was up to it, but they have yet to show the ability to be that megaphone.

Unfortunately people won’t ever allow this to happen.

1) It’s already way to political. Mainly because politicians (both sides) and the press. You had 24 hours where you had people convinced that the President said the virus was a hoax. Even tho untrue, you’re not going to get a lot them to believe otherwise.

2) Social media also drives people’s opinion (shocker). People are looking for things they want to hear because they normally follow who they have commonalities or agree with politically. Not saying you, but a vast majority. Just look at the guy you posted. I realize you used this because of the quote, but he has 37K followers repeating his hate for Trump and will probably use every opportunity to do so. If Trump’s messaging improves, how many of 37K will suddenly stop and say “you know what, think what Trump is now saying about this virus is right and helpful?”

3) Administration is trying this approach and people automatically said Pence is a science denier. Not saying wrongly or rightly, but minds are already made up.

4) This is what Obama and Trump have in common. An unknown virus hits and the President is going to take a lot of the blame. Regardless

However, I get your point. Just wish people would have an open mind to allow this to happen.

xubrew
03-06-2020, 07:43 PM
Johns Hopkins, a host school for the div3 tournament, has announced that the games will be closed to the public...

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/03/06/johns-hopkins-ncaa-basketball-tournament-canceled-coronavirus/amp/

xubrew
03-09-2020, 09:50 AM
The interesting thing about all of those, it seems to me, is that they are individual activities.
Because I'm obese, I don't transmit obesity for instance.
Sure they all kill more people, but each of them can't jump to you and cause you harm.

Maybe more important is that communicable diseases transmit and cross borders.
They end up psychologically (and perhaps incorrectly) affecting lots of people.
And so now we see disruptions in supply chains, and the market in general.
You'll go drink at Dana's if there's an obese person there...but maybe not if you thought there was an infected person who could transmit to you there.
You're on an airplane with a recirculating atmosphere with a diabetic, but maybe not with an infected person.

Hopefully it will be brought under control in short order and things will return to normal. We need fans in the stands!!!

All very true.

I guess my point is that if staying healthy is such a concern then we need to take better care of ourselves anyway, and if I'm being completely honest I'm trying to remind myself that it isn't worth panicking over.

bjf123
03-09-2020, 12:36 PM
The FIA has announced that the Bahrain Grand Prix in two weeks will be spectator free.


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chico
03-09-2020, 01:24 PM
I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more press. I know it's tennis, but still it's pretty substantial to cancel an entire tournament. And a pretty big one at that.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamzagoria/2020/03/09/indian-wells-tennis-tournament-becomes-first-major-us-sporting-event-cancelled-in-wake-of-coronavirus/#bd29d366dc37

X-band '01
03-09-2020, 04:51 PM
Add Cleveland to the list of confirmed Covid-19 cases.

GoMuskies
03-09-2020, 04:52 PM
Add Cleveland to the list of confirmed Covid-19 cases.

I think they just planted someone with Corona virus in Cleveland to scare away all the red sweater vests that would otherwise be flocking there next week.

xubrew
03-10-2020, 11:30 AM
Ivy Legue Tournament is cancelled. Yale gets the auto-bid.

GoMuskies
03-10-2020, 11:32 AM
Ivy Legue Tournament is cancelled. Yale gets the auto-bid.

Hmm, that's a bit of an odd decision. It's okay to expose Yale next week, but not the other three teams this week? I suppose it gives them a week to see what develops and whether the NCAA takes more drastic action themselves.

Xville
03-10-2020, 11:33 AM
Ivy Legue Tournament is cancelled. Yale gets the auto-bid.

This is getting beyond ridiculous.

xubrew
03-10-2020, 12:01 PM
This is getting beyond ridiculous.

That's been my instinctive reaction for a while, but I'm not a medical expert. I don't know if this thing just needs to run its course, infect people, have people recover, and then run out of people to infect and spread it before it can subside, or if it can be beaten back and save lives by cancelling big events. If the latter is true, then I'm not in a position to criticize iit.

What I do know is that, reasonably or not, people feel uncomfortable. Some of my best friends live in Europe, and particularly in Italy. None have been infected. Some say that it's a huge overreaction even though they're right in the thick of it. Others are simply annoyed. Others are scared shitless.

I don't know what to do. I think it sucks, but that's hardly an insightful or helpful opinion. Hell, if it's safer to postpone the NCAA Tournament, then fine. I can wait until April. I've got nothing better to do.

JTG
03-10-2020, 01:09 PM
There are rumors in INDY that the NCAA is considering moving the Sacramento and Spokane games to other sites. Spokane is close to what people consider the epicenter of infection, Seattle. Tampa has also been mentioned. X has been mentioned in several brackets as playing in Sacramento or Spokane. I just hope we're in, no matter where.

GoMuskies
03-10-2020, 01:18 PM
Just a note, but Spokane is close to Seattle in the same way that Cincinnati is close to Chicago.

xubrew
03-10-2020, 03:29 PM
Ohio's governor is requesting that all sporting events in the state be played without fans. This would include the MAC Tournament, which is scheduled to begin tomorrow, and of course the First Four in Dayton and the 1st/2nd round in Cleveland.

Here's my question.....

What to the experts, and by that I mean actual scientists, and doctors, and health care professionals, have to say about this?? We've got idiots walking around with masks on who think that as long as they have a mask, they won't get sick. I'd like some assurance that the people making these decisions aren't as stupid as that. if the experts say we should close off, or postpone, or even cancel the NCAA Tournament and all other events, then we should probably listen to them. If it's an idiot in a mask saying that, then we probably shouldn't.

There is some really good information on the off topic forum. It's far better than most of what I've read or seen on TV. I wish we could have people like that on TV instead of the bozos that are on there now. If these types of measures make a substantial difference in keeping people healthy and safe, then I'm all for it. As much as I love my hoops, I also like it when people are healthy and safe. But if the experts say it makes no difference and there is no significant increase in risk, then let's play basketball!

Xville
03-10-2020, 03:40 PM
Ohio's governor is requesting that all sporting events in the state be played without fans. This would include the MAC Tournament, which is scheduled to begin tomorrow, and of course the First Four in Dayton and the 1st/2nd round in Cleveland.

Here's my question.....

What to the experts, and by that I mean actual scientists, and doctors, and health care professionals, have to say about this?? We've got idiots walking around with masks on who think that as long as they have a mask, they won't get sick. I'd like some assurance that the people making these decisions aren't as stupid as that. if the experts say we should close off, or postpone, or even cancel the NCAA Tournament and all other events, then we should probably listen to them. If it's an idiot in a mask saying that, then we probably shouldn't.

There is some really good information on the off topic forum. It's far better than most of what I've read or seen on TV. I wish we could have people like that on TV instead of the bozos that are on there now. If these types of measures make a substantial difference in keeping people healthy and safe, then I'm all for it. As much as I love my hoops, I also like it when people are healthy and safe. But if the experts say it makes no difference and there is no significant increase in risk, then let's play basketball!

I think canceling events is ridiculous in my opinion. If you're sick, stay home. You are compromised by auto immune or some other disease, stay home. You are elderly, or want to bring your young babies or toddlers, stay home. Stop cancelling shit...this is stupid.

This is just my opinion of course.

xubrew
03-10-2020, 03:47 PM
I think canceling events is ridiculous in my opinion. If you're sick, stay home. You are compromised by auto immune or some other disease, stay home. You are elderly, or want to bring your young babies or toddlers, stay home. Stop cancelling shit...this is stupid.

This is just my opinion of course.

...and you may not be wrong. It may be that cancelling events does nothing to slow the spread or reduce the risk. I've gone from feeling how you feel to now not being sure. I'd like to have actual experts weigh in on the issue and not a bunch of people who I'm not sure if they're any smarter than the idiots who are stealing masks out of hospitals.

JTG
03-10-2020, 03:48 PM
Considering the fanbase at VD Arena, the CDC may need to set up a temporary morgue for the First Four games. At the least, a Covid 19 testing station.

Muskie
03-10-2020, 04:32 PM
Indiana University has just announced they will close for two weeks once Spring Break ends...

X-band '01
03-10-2020, 04:50 PM
Just a note, but Spokane is close to Seattle in the same way that Cincinnati is close to Chicago.

Or even Milwaukee.

D-West & PO-Z
03-10-2020, 05:13 PM
Indiana University has just announced they will close for two weeks once Spring Break ends...

My brother goes to OSU and they are doing online classes only starting next week through March. They are on Spring break now and cancelling classes until end of March would be that 14 day period to know if you are sick or not. I am guessing they are worried everyone is going all over and out of the country for spring break. Stupid thing is though all the students are going to still come back to campus and live and go to bars etc.

Lloyd Braun
03-10-2020, 05:21 PM
I think canceling events is ridiculous in my opinion. If you're sick, stay home. You are compromised by auto immune or some other disease, stay home. You are elderly, or want to bring your young babies or toddlers, stay home. Stop cancelling shit...this is stupid.

This is just my opinion of course.

It might be overreacting, but up to this point our government has under-reacted, so I am ok with being cautious. If the virus didn’t spread until one has symptoms it would be a bit silly, but you are contagious before even having a sniffle. That’s why this is spreading so quickly. It’s not the unhealthy people that generally spread diseases, it’s the healthy ones.

X-band '01
03-10-2020, 05:59 PM
Ohio's governor is requesting that all sporting events in the state be played without fans. This would include the MAC Tournament, which is scheduled to begin tomorrow, and of course the First Four in Dayton and the 1st/2nd round in Cleveland.



But not forcing them to do so. The Blue Jackets are now on record saying they will not be banning fans from their upcoming home games.

xubrew
03-11-2020, 02:23 PM
I was just told that the mayor of Houston said all March events were cancelled. That would make playing the South Regional rather difficult.

There will be changes to the NCAA Tournament.

JTG
03-11-2020, 02:57 PM
I was just told that the mayor of Houston said all March events were cancelled. That would make playing the South Regional rather difficult.

There will be changes to the NCAA Tournament.

Sounds like the NCAA might be doing non stop games at Lucas Oil Stadium on 10 courts if this nonsense continues. Indy is the NCAA emergency site.

D-West & PO-Z
03-11-2020, 02:59 PM
Heard that Dayton and Cleveland would be played with no fans, trying to confirm but this would align with DeWine's statement mins ago about rules he would be releasing regarding mass gatherings in Ohio after the 4th (and first community acquired) person was diagnosed today.

EDIT: I can;t find where that has actually been said. Here is another tweet from DeWine though:


"I thank those who have already chosen to limit large events in response to yesterday's recommendation. For the others, there will be an order."

SM#24
03-11-2020, 03:02 PM
X has moved to online classes at last through Easter break (students currently on Spring Break). Students in on and off campus residences are "strongly encouraged" to go home.
In the unfortunate event this becomes real, no fans for an NIT home game ?

Xville
03-11-2020, 03:11 PM
Heard that Dayton and Cleveland would be played with no fans, trying to confirm but this would align with DeWine's statement mins ago about rules he would be releasing regarding mass gatherings in Ohio after the 4th (and first community acquired) person was diagnosed today.

EDIT: I can;t find where that has actually been said. Here is another tweet from DeWine though:


"I thank those who have already chosen to limit large events in response to yesterday's recommendation. For the others, there will be an order."

NCAA is going to be insanely pissed about this, even if to the outside media they will say "all the right things."

D-West & PO-Z
03-11-2020, 03:20 PM
NCAA is going to be insanely pissed about this, even if to the outside media they will say "all the right things."

Only hilarious thing is if they cancel the tournament in the best year Dayton has ever had, lol.

GoMuskies
03-11-2020, 03:23 PM
Now, imagine for a moment that this virus picks up steam and becomes a full-fledged pandemic in the US, and the NCAA is forced to cancel its Tournament. This being the year that Dayton is in the top 5 for the first time in most of our lifetimes. Imagine all the crazy shit Dayton fans would say for the NEXT 50 years while they wait for their next good team about how they totally would have won it all and that they really should put a banner to that effect in the Dump.

Dayton getting screwed would be the only slight silver lining in that dark, dark cloud.

Hey, get your own joke DWest! :)

noteggs
03-11-2020, 03:30 PM
No fans allowed at MAC and Big West tournament

D-West & PO-Z
03-11-2020, 03:32 PM
Hey, get your own joke DWest! :)

Ha! I forgot you posted that. You were way ahead of me.

GoMuskies
03-11-2020, 03:32 PM
No fans allowed at MAC and Big West tournament

No fans allowed at the A-10 Tournament at Barclays, either.....wait, no, fans were ALLOWED, it's just that none showed up.

D-West & PO-Z
03-11-2020, 03:37 PM
https://www.whio.com/news/local/dewine-order-mass-gatherings-with-impact-ncaa-first-four-games-dayton/qq9BAXKvqQmLksIRCUcVUO/

No fans in Dayton or Cleveland next week!

Xville
03-11-2020, 03:44 PM
https://www.whio.com/news/local/dewine-order-mass-gatherings-with-impact-ncaa-first-four-games-dayton/qq9BAXKvqQmLksIRCUcVUO/

No fans in Dayton or Cleveland next week!

This is such an overreaction in my opinion. Do I think the virus is no big deal? No....do I think the world is going to end? No....

The only good thing about this is that it fucks Dayton and their fans...

I really think this whole thing has become political grandstanding.

Lloyd Braun
03-11-2020, 03:47 PM
Enjoyed this tweet from Titus: “ The tournament is basically going to be like those preseason secret scrimmages, only televised. Does anybody know which teams were dominant in their scrimmages? Didn’t Louisville get smoked by someone on their home court? If that’s true, team that beat them should be a 1-seed IMO”

I think it’s an overreaction too but what if it isn’t? Erring on the side of caution is not a bad thing with pandemics.

Xville
03-11-2020, 03:59 PM
Enjoyed this tweet from Titus: “ The tournament is basically going to be like those preseason secret scrimmages, only televised. Does anybody know which teams were dominant in their scrimmages? Didn’t Louisville get smoked by someone on their home court? If that’s true, team that beat them should be a 1-seed IMO”

I think it’s an overreaction too but what if it isn’t? Erring on the side of caution is not a bad thing with pandemics.

I just think almost any situation where the government is telling me what to do or how to think is an overreaction. Why cant people make their own decision of going to the game or not. Yes I know the whole " well you may infect someone that is compromised" well, maybe if you are compromised then dont leave the house for a few weeks.

paulxu
03-11-2020, 04:10 PM
Ruh-roh.

https://twitter.com/Hassel_Chris/status/1237827196296757249

Xville
03-11-2020, 04:17 PM
Ruh-roh.

https://twitter.com/Hassel_Chris/status/1237827196296757249

Beyond insane if true, but as I said here yesterday I gave it a 50-50 shot because of the overreaction that has been present for the last week or so

GoMuskies
03-11-2020, 04:20 PM
Beyond insane if true, but as I said here yesterday I gave it a 50-50 shot because of the overreaction that has been present for the last week or so

It's kicked up an extra gear today. At this point, I could see them canceling even the Big East, Big Ten, ACC, etc. conference tournaments after tonight or at least not allowing fans for tomorrow on.

D-West & PO-Z
03-11-2020, 04:22 PM
It's kicked up an extra gear today. At this point, I could see them canceling even the Big East, Big Ten, ACC, etc. conference tournaments after tonight or at least not allowing fans for tomorrow on.

NY has an entire town less than 20 miles from Manhattan that has a 1 mile quarantine with the national guard there. I think you could be right about the BE tourney.

D-West & PO-Z
03-11-2020, 04:28 PM
At this point I feel like still playing the tournament but with no fans is going to end up the best case scenario with cancellation seeming more realistic.

JTG
03-11-2020, 04:38 PM
NY has an entire town less than 20 miles from Manhattan that has a 1 mile quarantine with the national guard there. I think you could be right about the BE tourney.

The National Guard ???? Has everyone totally lost their minds ?

JTG
03-11-2020, 04:41 PM
What's next ? armed checkpoints in and out of neighborhoods ?

Muskie
03-11-2020, 04:42 PM
NCAA just announced the NCAA tourney will be played without fans...
link (https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2020/03/11/college-basketball-coronavirus-ncaa-tournament-covid-19-update/)

D-West & PO-Z
03-11-2020, 04:42 PM
NCAA just announced the NCAA tourney will be played without fans...
link (https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2020/03/11/college-basketball-coronavirus-ncaa-tournament-covid-19-update/)

How does this affect the BE tourney?

Xville
03-11-2020, 04:43 PM
At this point I feel like still playing the tournament but with no fans is going to end up the best case scenario with cancellation seeming more realistic.

With ya.... because of dewine I see basically zero possibility the other sites wont follow suit. It would be political suicide.

Going from thanks obama to thanks dewine.

Xville
03-11-2020, 04:44 PM
NCAA just announced the NCAA tourney will be played without fans...
link (https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2020/03/11/college-basketball-coronavirus-ncaa-tournament-covid-19-update/)

Wow...this tournament is going to be lame

noteggs
03-11-2020, 04:47 PM
https://www.whio.com/news/local/dewine-order-mass-gatherings-with-impact-ncaa-first-four-games-dayton/qq9BAXKvqQmLksIRCUcVUO/

No fans in Dayton or Cleveland next week!

Guess we could’ve anticipated this since MAC tournament is playing in Cleveland this week. According to an article I just read, for only $4.99, you can watch “most” MAC games on ESPN+. Wouldn’t it be a good PR move for ESPN to wave this fee for those games?

Xville
03-11-2020, 04:51 PM
I know it's a logistical nightmare but why wouldnt they just move this to next month. A tourney with no fans is really lame.

noteggs
03-11-2020, 04:51 PM
Wow...this tournament is going to be lame

Maybe they’ll just pump in crowd noise in the audio feed?

GoMuskies
03-11-2020, 04:53 PM
They should really move the games to smaller gyms, too. No reason to play in huge arenas (and domes even) if they're going to be empty.

Lloyd Braun
03-11-2020, 04:57 PM
I usually have several TVs going at once with music on in background. I don’t think much changes for me.

AviatorX
03-11-2020, 05:02 PM
I know it's a logistical nightmare but why wouldnt they just move this to next month. A tourney with no fans is really lame.

This is a sincere question, but is there any indication the situation will be any different/better in a month?

Xville
03-11-2020, 05:06 PM
This is a sincere question, but is there any indication the situation will be any different/better in a month?

I'm just assuming this irrational panic will be gone by then

X Factor
03-11-2020, 05:07 PM
They should allow fans and hand out facemasks to everyone in their schools' colors.

xavierj
03-11-2020, 05:08 PM
This is a sincere question, but is there any indication the situation will be any different/better in a month?

I would imagine by then the panic and overreaction will be over. Our attention spans are usually short and people eventually get over it and move on like they have with everything else that scares people. I mean the flu kills people all the time but life continues to go on and we don’t shut everything down. I know it’s a little different but if the flu spreads and can and will kill some people, how come we don’t shut everything down when the flu hits hard?

xubrew
03-11-2020, 05:08 PM
I know it's a logistical nightmare but why wouldnt they just move this to next month. A tourney with no fans is really lame.

I TOTALLY agree.

muskiefan82
03-11-2020, 05:10 PM
So, it'll be like playing at St. Bonaventure for every game? Wow.

X-band '01
03-11-2020, 05:17 PM
While unprecedented on the NCAA level, this is NOT the first time that we have seen an empty venue during a postseason tournament.

2008 SEC Tournament ring a bell?

bigdiggins
03-11-2020, 05:20 PM
Welp. I may be done with college basketball. Havent missed a home game since the Cintas Center opened. Haven't missed a first four game in Dayton. But this massive overreaction has me feeling a bit like Clark Griswold when he got his Jelly of the Month bonus. Not worth investing the time, energy and money. Just ridiculous.

AviatorX
03-11-2020, 05:21 PM
I would imagine by then the panic and overreaction will be over. Our attention spans are usually short and people eventually get over it and move on like they have with everything else that scares people. I mean the flu kills people all the time but life continues to go on and we don’t shut everything down. I know it’s a little different but if the flu spreads and can and will kill some people, how come we don’t shut everything down when the flu hits hard?

Yeah, I hear you. But it's hard not to look at what's going on in Italy and wonder why things will go down a different path here.

murray87
03-11-2020, 05:28 PM
Hate to say it but since Cranley has declared a state of emergency in Cincy, I can see them shutting down all Opening Day festivities and maybe even not allowing fans in the park. This all sucks.

D-West & PO-Z
03-11-2020, 05:43 PM
Honestly no Governor wants to be the one who doesnt take signifnact action and has deaths pile up in their state. I'm not surprised about this at all to be honest.

Better to overreact imo than not in the interest in watching teenagers play basketball (in the words of Mark Titus).

Its kind of along the lines of getting vaccines for the greater good. We are all diehard sports fans and people are mad they cant watch their team or go to a site they wanted to but I mean the risk isnt worth it just in case. I can't imagine DeWine or others making these decisions willy nilly a lot of time and thought by much smarter more qualified people than us made this decision.

GoMuskies
03-11-2020, 06:59 PM
Big Ten says no fans starting tomorrow. No chance that the Big East and A-10 fail to follow suit.

D-West & PO-Z
03-11-2020, 07:13 PM
Big Ten says no fans starting tomorrow. No chance that the Big East and A-10 fail to follow suit.

Yeah totally agree. Would look reckless regardless of if it actually is or not.

At least all those X fans who went will get to see 1 game. Maybe thats the silver lining in losing to Butler!

paulxu
03-11-2020, 09:01 PM
Big Ten says no fans starting tomorrow. No chance that the Big East and A-10 fail to follow suit.

MOR went to NY for one game? And the rest he'll watch from a bar near Times Square?

I smell a Snuggie like experience with the post trip narrative yet to come.

OTRMUSKIE
03-12-2020, 02:47 AM
You have to cancel the tournament at this point. You can’t let the NBA so it and you continue. Over kill sure but if u don’t do it ur putting too many people in harms way. Just give the NC to The team who has the worse regular season attendance.

X-man
03-12-2020, 12:32 PM
You have to cancel the tournament at this point. You can’t let the NBA so it and you continue. Over kill sure but if u don’t do it ur putting too many people in harms way. Just give the NC to The team who has the worse regular season attendance.

Agree. With most conferences canceling their tournaments, the NCAA tournament is seriously compromised.

SM#24
03-12-2020, 12:39 PM
Everyone is canceling tournaments now. Big East is playing as of now. I propose they halt the tournament and invalidate any results that may have already occurred.

drudy23
03-12-2020, 12:51 PM
And to further add to the weirdness, the ACC has a trophy ceremony for Florida St as tournament champions. WTF?

SM#24
03-12-2020, 01:35 PM
Since St. John's was leading the #1 seed at half, I propose they be the Big East champions.

smileyy
03-12-2020, 01:50 PM
This thread may as well rename itself to "NCAA Tournament??"

D-West & PO-Z
03-12-2020, 02:05 PM
Everyone is canceling tournaments now. Big East is playing as of now. I propose they halt the tournament and invalidate any results that may have already occurred.

Yes. In the rare circumstance that the NCAA tourney is played, yesterdays results should not count.

Also how bizarre the BE continued playing.

Lloyd Braun
03-12-2020, 02:26 PM
This thread may as well rename itself to "NCAA Tournament??"

Looks like schools are pulling out on their own already.

GoMuskies
03-12-2020, 02:35 PM
They're pulling out of all sports. Kind of surprised by the college baseball changes. Outdoor sport with small crowds (or you could ban fans).

SM#24
03-12-2020, 02:42 PM
Yes. In the rare circumstance that the NCAA tourney is played, yesterdays results should not count.

Also how bizarre the BE continued playing.

I think they were just a little late to the Cancel Party.

smileyy
03-12-2020, 02:43 PM
Seeing lots of reports that Kansas and Duke are out of the tournament. I expect it will be cancelled today.

usfldan
03-12-2020, 03:25 PM
This thread may as well rename itself to "NCAA Tournament??"

or "Fans with No NCAA Tournament"

xudash
03-12-2020, 03:25 PM
Seeing lots of reports that Kansas and Duke are out of the tournament. I expect it will be cancelled today.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ncaa-medical-chief-says-testing-shortage-threatens-march-madness-11584030721

Xville
03-12-2020, 04:30 PM
Well, its official...no tournament

GoMuskies
03-12-2020, 04:32 PM
chances still seem remote

Boom, nailed it early on that the chances of them playing in empty arenas was remote! OK, maybe I was thinking of a slightly different outcome, but overall, still right! :)

Lloyd Braun
03-12-2020, 04:35 PM
The first page of this thread is kinda funny.

UCGRAD4X
03-12-2020, 04:38 PM
Just as well. If they hold a tournament and nobody shows up, did it really even happen anyway?

JTG
03-12-2020, 04:42 PM
WHIO in Dayton just reported that a caravan of buses from local Dayton nursing homes is assembling near I-70, for a trip to Indianapolis to protest at NCAA Headquarters. They were clad in red sweater vests, carrying pitchforks, torches, and bottles of Geritol.